In this jam-packed episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz, Sen. Ted Cruz and co-host Ben Ferguson call out Democrats for defending radical pro-Hamas protesters who flooded college campuses across the country.
Cruz and Ferguson also break down the latest DOGE bombshell: the Biden administration reportedly issued loans to children as young as nine and even deceased individuals—some allegedly 157 years old.
Finally, in what can be described as an Uno reverse, the hosts discuss how the CBP One app is now being repurposed as a self-deportation tool.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome. It is vernic with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
with you and Center. Do we have one heck of
a show, including Democrats calling for the release of the
pro Hamas protester that has been arrested.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Look, there's an old saying, tell me who stand with
and I'll tell you who you are. The Trump administration
is rightly going after radical pro Hamas protesters who have
disrupted college campuses with anti Semitic protests. The Democrats' response
is to stand with the pro Hamas protesters. To make clear,
(00:39):
Today's Democrat Party. If you are a Jewish student at
a university, Today's Democrat Party does not stand with you.
I wish that were not the case, but it is
the reality. If you are a radical pro Hamas protester
whose chance we love Hamas, who threatens Jewish students, who
engages in violence and unrest, Today's Democrat Party they have
(01:03):
your back. You might think that's hyperbole. We're going to
lay out the facts demonstrate that's true. Not only that,
but we've got two other stories. Tonight, we have Doze
uncovering this. The Biden administration gave hundreds of millions of
dollars of loans and grants to children, to little kids.
You want to talk about fraud, that's what Doze is uncovering.
(01:25):
And finally, we have the Trump administration going after illegal
immigrants using the CPB one app to be an app
for self deportation. We are going to secure the border.
We're going to remove illegal immigrants. We're going to tell
you all about that today.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, it's really a great story and we'll have that
for you in a moment. I want to talk to
you real quick though about the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews. After more than a year of war, tear
and pain in Israel, all of Israel is broken hearted
after learning of the tragic deaths of the Bebes children
who were held hostage and Gozap and so many more
are still hurting throughout the Holy Land. There is a
(02:04):
real need and the need for aid is continuing to grow.
And that is where you getting involved with the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews has been truly incredible. The
families of hostages they're helping right now and other victims
of the October seventh terror attacks, and with your help,
i FCJ has provided financial and emotional help to hostages
(02:25):
and their families, and those healing and rebuilding their broken
homes and broken bodies. But the real work is still
just beginning, and that is why it's so important for
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(02:50):
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one word, support IFCJ dot org. Or call them eight
eight eight four eight eight I f CJ. That's eight
eight eight four eight eight if CJ or support IFCJ
(03:13):
dot org. So center, let's take people back in time
to a campaign promise from the President. He made it
clear that if you were one of these students that
is from overseas has gotten a special special invitation, the
ability to come and study in America, and you are
on campuses and you're you know, act actually going out
(03:34):
there and advocating for violence and taking over buildings on
college campuses, We're going to kick you out of this country. Well,
guess what. There was one radical on a college campus.
This is exactly what happened. Is Ice detained and they said, look,
we're going to revoke your green card. And now Democrats
are protesting the arrest of the Syrian radical in New York.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, it really is astonishing. And let's look at what
happened in the United States following October seventh. Following October seventh,
we saw protests on college campuses across this country, predominantly
in left wing college campuses in blue states, where radical
pro Hamas protesters stood up and they'd denounced Israel. They
(04:20):
chanted things like we love Hamas, we are Hamas, they
threatened Jewish students, they engaged in acts of violence, and
they threatened even more acts of violence, and astonishingly, ben
the Democrats were silent. You know, there's some folks who said,
in the wake of these protests, well, gosh, it's terrible,
(04:40):
but they're happening all over the country. That's not right.
They were only happening in blue states with blue elected officials.
They happened in New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois, California,
Washington State. They didn't happen to they didn't happen in Texas. Actually,
(05:02):
in Texas, we briefly had protesters at the University of
Texas and officials sent in police officers that arrested them
all and it was done within a day. The places
that had happened, it happened because the university administrators agreed
with the protesters and the elected officials. They had been
indoctrinated in the leftist ideology that said Israel is the
(05:25):
bad guy and Hamas is the good guy. Now, one
of the things you and I have talked about at length.
And by the way, if you did not listen to
Monday's podcast, you should listen to Monday's podcasts because we
did a deep dive on the Trump administration rightly cutting
off four hundred million dollars of grants to Columbia University.
Columbia was probably the single worst actor in all of
(05:46):
these universities in terms of tolerating and celebrating these anti Israel,
anti Jewish protests, but not only that, arresting a pro
Hamas protester, And let me be clear, this is the
first of many. I believe we will see many more
of the Prohamas protesters arrested and deported. And what I've
(06:09):
said from the beginning, if you are threatening other students,
if you are attacking America, if you are embracing terrorists,
and you're a foreign student, you should be expelled and
you should be deported. And what happened Mahmoud Khalil, who
is from Syria, he came to the United States. My
understanding is in two thousand and twenty two. He came
(06:32):
to be a student at Columbia. He married a woman
from the United States. He got a green card. So
twenty twenty two is three years ago. It's not very long.
He got a green card very quickly. And in his
time in America, he came into America and he organized
anti America, anti Israel, anti Semitic Prohamas protests. Now it's
(06:53):
interesting there have been a number of people online, number
of leftist who are saying, well, this is free speech,
this is allowed. Let me be clear. Under US law,
American citizens are protected by the First Amendment. Foreigners are
not a visa to come to this country as a student.
That is a permissive decision. And you do not have
a right if you are a guest to this country
(07:16):
to actively undermine American Let me be clear to anyone.
If you hate America, if you want to undermind America,
do not come to this country. And the Trump administration
rightly arrested and plans to deport Mahmud Khalil for organizing
anti Israel, anti America pro Hamas protests. And what's stunning, Ben,
(07:38):
what do you think the reaction the Democrats is to this?
They stand with Khalil, They stand with the anti Israel
pro Hamas protesters. So if you want to know where
you stand, if you stand with Israel, if you stand
with American Jews, if you stand with freedom, if you
stand with the right to be free from oppression and violence,
(08:00):
that eighth the Democrats they stand with those engaged violence.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, it really is shocking when you hear it describe
the way that you just described it, that they're saying, no, no, no,
this is our guy, this is our hero, this is
who we want to advocate for, and we're going to
do this and stand with this individual. I look as
I'm like, okay, what's the play here? Is this to
raise money? Is this? It's just so you think at
(08:26):
the core, this is truly who they are.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The Democrats are captive to their pro Haama space. So
fourteen House Democrats wrote a letter, and I'm a quote
from the letter. Quote, We're horrified by the recent illegal
abduction and now indefinite detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a US
permanent resident, by the Department of Homeland Security DHS agents,
(08:52):
and we unequivocally demand his immediate release from DHS custody.
That's what fourteen House Democrats wrote. What they continued, they said,
quote Khalil has not been charged or convicted of any crime,
as the Trump administration proudly admits, he was targeted solely
for his activism and organizing as a student leader and
negotiator for the Gaza Solidarity encampment on Columbia University campus
(09:16):
protests in the Israeli government's brutal assault on the Palestinian
people in Gaza and his university's complicity in the suppression.
And among the co signers include Rashiba talib ilhan Omar
Della Ramirez, and Nidia of Alesquiz. So these are left
wing democrats and they're saying, when we see anti Israel
(09:38):
pro Hamas protesters, we side with the pro Hamas protesters.
We cannot stand Israel we oppose Israel, and we're horrified
that the Trump administration is then on the other side.
I am celebrating that the Trump administration is on the
other side.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Let's also play for everybody. It was a very interesting
moment at the White House Press briefing with the White
House Press Secretary. She doubled down on this to make
it clear exactly what you were saying about this administration.
Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well. In fact, Secretary Rubio reserves the right to revoke
the visa of Mamood Khalil, and I'm glad you brought
this up. Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, the Secretary
of State has the right to revoke a green card
or a visa for individuals who serve adversarial to the
(10:29):
foreign policy and national security interests of the United States
of America. And Mahmood Khalil was an individual who was
given the privilege of coming to this country to study
at one of our nation's finest universities in colleges, and
he took advantage of that opportunity, of that privilege by
siding with terrorists Hamas, terrorists who have killed innocent men, women,
(10:51):
and children. This is an individual who organized group protests
that not only disrupted college campus classes and harassed Jewish
American students and made them feel unsafe on their own
college campus, but also distributed pro Hamas propaganda flyers with
the logo of Hamas. That is what the behavior and
(11:13):
activity that this individual engaged in. And I have those
flyers on my desk. They were provided to me by
the Department of Homeland Security. I thought about bringing them
into this briefing room to share with all of you,
but I didn't think it was worth the dignity of
this room to bring that pro Hamas propaganda. But that's
what this individual distributed on the campus of Columbia University.
And this administration is not going to tolerate individuals having
(11:35):
the privilege of studying in our country and then siding
with pro terrorist organizations that have killed Americans. We have
a zero tolerance policy for siding with terrorists period.
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I love the part that Carolin Lovitt talked about there
about the actual flyers that were put out, and she's like,
(14:00):
I have them in my office.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So let me say my response to what Caroline Levitt
said is a men a men a man. Hello. You look,
there is a clarity to this. Yesterday, the Senate Judiciary Democrats,
so Dick Durbin and all the Democrats of the Judiciary Committee,
they tweeted out a three word tweet. The three words
(14:25):
are free mahmood khalil. And then they have a picture
of Mahmoud standing in front of some black iron gate. Now,
let me just ask you who do you side with?
If you side with radical pro Haamas protesters, you should
be a democrat. Look that they are the party of Hamas.
(14:47):
They are the party of the radicals. If you actually
side with Israel, if you side with Jewish students, if
you side with America, if you don't like Hamas terrorists
that want to kill us, well, it is amazing the
divide we have. And this is a simple, clear divide.
And I'm grateful for Carolin Levitt for making clear. Listen
(15:07):
a US citizen. So it's interesting I've tweeted about this
quite a lot today, and there are some lefties who
say free speech, free speech. You're right, an American citizen
has a right to say horrible, noxious statements under free speech,
and I will defend your right. If you want to
defend Nazis, I'll defend your right to do that. If
you want to defend klansmen, I'll defend your right to
(15:29):
do that. Now, to be clear, I'll say you're an ignorant,
bigoted racist for doing that, But you have a right
to say that. But you know what, if you're not
an American citizen, if you have a student visa or
a green card, you are here on a permissive standard.
We don't have to allow you to stay. And it
says volumes that the Democrats say we would rather stand
(15:54):
with Hamas than stand with Israel or frankly, stand with America.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I want to move to this other story, and the
headline is one that is not a joke, it is real.
Doge is now said that they have uncovered three hundred
and twelve million senator in loans that were given to
children during the COVID pandemic. Yes, to children like nine
(16:24):
year olds, eleven year olds. There was three hundred and
twelve million that was approved and given to children.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, you said this is not a joke, and sadly
I wish it was. Here's what Fox News has reported.
Quote DOE said it identified this Small Business Association Administration
I assume granted nearly five thousand, six hundred loans for
three hundred and twelve million dollars to borrows who only
(16:51):
listed owner was eleven years old or younger at the
time of the loan. The loans were issued in twenty
and twenty twenty one and it is unclear what they
were used for. Quote, while it is possible to have
business arrangements where this is legal, five hundred and ninety
three loans, as they all also used a Social Security
(17:15):
number with the incorrect name. DOGE and the SBA government
are working together to solve this problem. This week. While
making the announcement, does shared a post on x from Tuesday,
where it also revealed that in twenty twenty and twenty
twenty one, the SBA issued three thousand, ninety five loans
(17:37):
for three hundred and thirty three million dollars to borrows
over one hundred and fifteen years old. The borrowers were
still marked as alive in the Social Security database. In
one case, a one hundred and fifty seven year old
individual received thirty six thousand dollars in loans. The agency said, Look,
(18:01):
this is I feel very confident that nobody is one
hundred and fifty seven years old, and if they are
and they're getting thirty six thousand dollars, that is fraud.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's fraud, and we all know this. And look, this
goes back to what President Trump said and is addressed
to Congress on Tuesday, when he talked about he said
there was millions of people aged over one hundred that
were listed on some security databases, with one being as
oldest three hundred and sixty years of age. And I
go back to Trump's quote there, I know some.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
People who are und I want to know, is that
guy the vampireless Stott? Is he like literally an age
ageless vampire who like flies with the bats?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah? Right, exactly. And this goes back to Elon Musk
and a job that he's doing that I got to
say rarely in my life, I thought there's a job
that only one guy could do well. It seems to
be Doge and Elon Musk because finding this type of
waste fraud abuse is exactly what Donald Trump promised, and
they're paying off on it. But every American that pays
(19:06):
taxes should be enraged by the fact that we're giving
this much money to people that are children, or this
much money to someone that's as old as three hundred
and sixty years of age.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
To be clear, if you're giving millions of dollars to
a five year old, you're not that is an adult
engaged in theft. If you're giving millions of dollars to
someone who's one hundred and fifty years old. You're not.
That is an adult engaged in theft. What this report
indicates is that the Biden administration didn't give a damn
(19:41):
about whether the money was actually going to real people
who had real needs, who were engaged in the purposes
for which Congress appropriated the money. Instead, they were just
shoveling money out the door, and tragically, the fraud was rampant.
In many instances, the fraud was going to radical left
wing demo credit groups because the Biden administration believed in
(20:03):
paying off their buddies. In other cases, they're just lazy.
They don't care. When a six year old puts in
an application for government money, the answer should be no,
because you're six and you ought to be playing with
blocks in kindergarten and not trying to get millions of
dollars from the government. But if you're a corrupt Democrat,
you give the millions of dollars and let the parents
(20:23):
use it for the political purposes they want.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, no doubt about it. And finally, let's deal with
a really fun story, and it deals with an app.
Uh it is, I call it the reverse HNO Card.
You remember that app that allowed for accountless people to
come into this country and just walk in knowing they
were here illegally. And it was an app that was
exploited by the Biden Harris administration. Well, we got a
(20:48):
reverse UNO card now center because we've got a new
app and it does actually the exact opposite of that,
which is you can hurry up and self deport yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, it's beautiful. So the administration la launched app called
the cbb one app. And here's what Bill Lugan, who
is the best reporter on immigration for Fox News, here's
what he reported, quote scoop. The Trump admin has repurposed
the controversial Biden era CBB one cell phone app into
(21:19):
a self deportationed app called CBBB Home that launches today.
DHS tells me any migrants who had prior CBBB one
app will have it auto update to this new app,
and DHS can use data from prior cbb one registrations
(21:41):
to track migrants for removal. The new app allows illegal
aliens and migrants in the US to register with CBP
to self deport. They fill out biographical information, including their
countries of citizenship, which country they plan to return to,
their alien registration numbers, contact information, and it allows them
(22:03):
to upload photos of themselves to confirm their identity. All
of it then is submitted to CBB As they leave
the country. You may ask yourself, why would an illegal
alien want to self deport? In a statement to Fox News,
DHS Secretary Christy Nome answered that the question quote. The
(22:24):
CBB Home app gives aliens the option to leave now
and self deport, so they may still have the opportunity
to return legally in the future and live the American dream.
If they don't, we will find them, we will deport them,
and they will never return. Nome said, the Biden administration
(22:46):
exploited the CBB one app to allow more than one
million aliens to enter the United States. With the launching
of CBB Home App, we are restoring integrity to our
immigration system.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
This may be one of the the simplest yet biggest
turn of events for a win on law and order
in our southern border dealing with the issue of immigration.
I just got to say, well done to the Trump
administration on this one. And they keep paying off on
their promises to the American people.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So ben I gotta say, I don't know if this
is gonna work or not. But I got to say,
if you're an illegal immigrant, you came to this country,
you went to a human trafficker, you were coming from,
say Central America. You came up through Mexico, and the
Biden administration said, hey, we've got an app. Fill out
your information. You can come here and we'll let you in.
And you filled it out. You came to America and
(23:38):
suddenly over your cell phone you get, oh crap, wait,
they want me to go home. And if I don't
go home, they're going to find me. They're going to
arrest me. They're going to send me home, and the
consequences are I can never come back. I don't know
how many people are going to respond to this, but
I think this is fabulous. Listen, my view on immigration
is simple. I've summed up my immigration view in fours.
(24:00):
Many times, legal good, illegal, bad. For the people who
are here illegally, the Trump administration is leaning in saying
we're going to secure the border, we're going to remove you.
And by the way, going back to our first story,
if you were a pro Hamas radical and anti Semite
protester and you're not a US citizen, bye bye, you're
(24:25):
gonna be deported, You're gonna be expelled, You're gonna be
thrown out of this country. That is a view that
makes an enormous amount of sense to me. And we
will see. And by the way, if we get the
data on how many people have used this app, we'll
report on this data on this podcast. But the simple
act of saying, all right, the prior administration opened up
(24:48):
our borders and let you in, we're now enforcing them,
I say, bravo, bravo, bravo.
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Welcome. It is vernic with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
with you and Center. Do we have one heck of
a show, including Democrats calling for the release of the
pro Hamas protester that has been arrested.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Look, there's an old saying, tell me who stand with
and I'll tell you who you are. The Trump administration
is rightly going after radical pro Hamas protesters who have
disrupted college campuses with anti Semitic protests. The Democrats' response
is to stand with the pro Hamas protesters. To make clear,
(00:39):
Today's Democrat Party. If you are a Jewish student at
a university, Today's Democrat Party does not stand with you.
I wish that were not the case, but it is
the reality. If you are a radical pro Hamas protester
whose chance we love Hamas, who threatens Jewish students, who
engages in violence and unrest, Today's Democrat Party they have
(01:03):
your back. You might think that's hyperbole. We're going to
lay out the facts demonstrate that's true. Not only that,
but we've got two other stories. Tonight, we have Doze
uncovering this. The Biden administration gave hundreds of millions of
dollars of loans and grants to children, to little kids.
You want to talk about fraud, that's what Doze is uncovering.
(01:25):
And finally, we have the Trump administration going after illegal
immigrants using the CPB one app to be an app
for self deportation. We are going to secure the border.
We're going to remove illegal immigrants. We're going to tell
you all about that today.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, it's really a great story and we'll have that
for you in a moment. I want to talk to
you real quick though about the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews. After more than a year of war, tear
and pain in Israel, all of Israel is broken hearted
after learning of the tragic deaths of the Bebes children
who were held hostage and Gozap and so many more
are still hurting throughout the Holy Land. There is a
(02:04):
real need and the need for aid is continuing to grow.
And that is where you getting involved with the International
Fellowship of Christians and Jews has been truly incredible. The
families of hostages they're helping right now and other victims
of the October seventh terror attacks, and with your help,
i FCJ has provided financial and emotional help to hostages
(02:25):
and their families, and those healing and rebuilding their broken
homes and broken bodies. But the real work is still
just beginning, and that is why it's so important for
you to stand with the people of Israel right now.
Your gift will help provide critically needed support to families
in Israel's whose lives continue to be destroyed by the
terror and the uncertainty as Israel remains surrounded by enemies.
(02:50):
So give a gift to bless Israel and her people.
You can do it by visiting SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That's
one word, support IFCJ dot org. Or call them eight
eight eight four eight eight I f CJ. That's eight
eight eight four eight eight if CJ or support IFCJ
(03:13):
dot org. So center, let's take people back in time
to a campaign promise from the President. He made it
clear that if you were one of these students that
is from overseas has gotten a special special invitation, the
ability to come and study in America, and you are
on campuses and you're you know, act actually going out
(03:34):
there and advocating for violence and taking over buildings on
college campuses, We're going to kick you out of this country. Well,
guess what. There was one radical on a college campus.
This is exactly what happened. Is Ice detained and they said, look,
we're going to revoke your green card. And now Democrats
are protesting the arrest of the Syrian radical in New York.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, it really is astonishing. And let's look at what
happened in the United States following October seventh. Following October seventh,
we saw protests on college campuses across this country, predominantly
in left wing college campuses in blue states, where radical
pro Hamas protesters stood up and they'd denounced Israel. They
(04:20):
chanted things like we love Hamas, we are Hamas, they
threatened Jewish students, they engaged in acts of violence, and
they threatened even more acts of violence, and astonishingly, ben
the Democrats were silent. You know, there's some folks who said,
in the wake of these protests, well, gosh, it's terrible,
(04:40):
but they're happening all over the country. That's not right.
They were only happening in blue states with blue elected officials.
They happened in New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Illinois, California,
Washington State. They didn't happen to they didn't happen in Texas. Actually,
(05:02):
in Texas, we briefly had protesters at the University of
Texas and officials sent in police officers that arrested them
all and it was done within a day. The places
that had happened, it happened because the university administrators agreed
with the protesters and the elected officials. They had been
indoctrinated in the leftist ideology that said Israel is the
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bad guy and Hamas is the good guy. Now, one
of the things you and I have talked about at length.
And by the way, if you did not listen to
Monday's podcast, you should listen to Monday's podcasts because we
did a deep dive on the Trump administration rightly cutting
off four hundred million dollars of grants to Columbia University.
Columbia was probably the single worst actor in all of
(05:46):
these universities in terms of tolerating and celebrating these anti Israel,
anti Jewish protests, but not only that, arresting a pro
Hamas protester, And let me be clear, this is the
first of many. I believe we will see many more
of the Prohamas protesters arrested and deported. And what I've
(06:09):
said from the beginning, if you are threatening other students,
if you are attacking America, if you are embracing terrorists,
and you're a foreign student, you should be expelled and
you should be deported. And what happened Mahmoud Khalil, who
is from Syria, he came to the United States. My
understanding is in two thousand and twenty two. He came
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to be a student at Columbia. He married a woman
from the United States. He got a green card. So
twenty twenty two is three years ago. It's not very long.
He got a green card very quickly. And in his
time in America, he came into America and he organized
anti America, anti Israel, anti Semitic Prohamas protests. Now it's
(06:53):
interesting there have been a number of people online, number
of leftist who are saying, well, this is free speech,
this is allowed. Let me be clear. Under US law,
American citizens are protected by the First Amendment. Foreigners are
not a visa to come to this country as a student.
That is a permissive decision. And you do not have
a right if you are a guest to this country
(07:16):
to actively undermine American Let me be clear to anyone.
If you hate America, if you want to undermind America,
do not come to this country. And the Trump administration
rightly arrested and plans to deport Mahmud Khalil for organizing
anti Israel, anti America pro Hamas protests. And what's stunning, Ben,
(07:38):
what do you think the reaction the Democrats is to this?
They stand with Khalil, They stand with the anti Israel
pro Hamas protesters. So if you want to know where
you stand, if you stand with Israel, if you stand
with American Jews, if you stand with freedom, if you
stand with the right to be free from oppression and violence,
(08:00):
that eighth the Democrats they stand with those engaged violence.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, it really is shocking when you hear it describe
the way that you just described it, that they're saying, no, no, no,
this is our guy, this is our hero, this is
who we want to advocate for, and we're going to
do this and stand with this individual. I look as
I'm like, okay, what's the play here? Is this to
raise money? Is this? It's just so you think at
(08:26):
the core, this is truly who they are.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
The Democrats are captive to their pro Haama space. So
fourteen House Democrats wrote a letter, and I'm a quote
from the letter. Quote, We're horrified by the recent illegal
abduction and now indefinite detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a US
permanent resident, by the Department of Homeland Security DHS agents,
(08:52):
and we unequivocally demand his immediate release from DHS custody.
That's what fourteen House Democrats wrote. What they continued, they said,
quote Khalil has not been charged or convicted of any crime,
as the Trump administration proudly admits, he was targeted solely
for his activism and organizing as a student leader and
negotiator for the Gaza Solidarity encampment on Columbia University campus
(09:16):
protests in the Israeli government's brutal assault on the Palestinian
people in Gaza and his university's complicity in the suppression.
And among the co signers include Rashiba talib ilhan Omar
Della Ramirez, and Nidia of Alesquiz. So these are left
wing democrats and they're saying, when we see anti Israel
(09:38):
pro Hamas protesters, we side with the pro Hamas protesters.
We cannot stand Israel we oppose Israel, and we're horrified
that the Trump administration is then on the other side.
I am celebrating that the Trump administration is on the
other side.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Let's also play for everybody. It was a very interesting
moment at the White House Press briefing with the White
House Press Secretary. She doubled down on this to make
it clear exactly what you were saying about this administration.
Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well. In fact, Secretary Rubio reserves the right to revoke
the visa of Mamood Khalil, and I'm glad you brought
this up. Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, the Secretary
of State has the right to revoke a green card
or a visa for individuals who serve adversarial to the
(10:29):
foreign policy and national security interests of the United States
of America. And Mahmood Khalil was an individual who was
given the privilege of coming to this country to study
at one of our nation's finest universities in colleges, and
he took advantage of that opportunity, of that privilege by
siding with terrorists Hamas, terrorists who have killed innocent men, women,
(10:51):
and children. This is an individual who organized group protests
that not only disrupted college campus classes and harassed Jewish
American students and made them feel unsafe on their own
college campus, but also distributed pro Hamas propaganda flyers with
the logo of Hamas. That is what the behavior and
(11:13):
activity that this individual engaged in. And I have those
flyers on my desk. They were provided to me by
the Department of Homeland Security. I thought about bringing them
into this briefing room to share with all of you,
but I didn't think it was worth the dignity of
this room to bring that pro Hamas propaganda. But that's
what this individual distributed on the campus of Columbia University.
And this administration is not going to tolerate individuals having
(11:35):
the privilege of studying in our country and then siding
with pro terrorist organizations that have killed Americans. We have
a zero tolerance policy for siding with terrorists period.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
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I love the part that Carolin Lovitt talked about there
about the actual flyers that were put out, and she's like,
(14:00):
I have them in my office.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
So let me say my response to what Caroline Levitt
said is a men a men a man. Hello. You look,
there is a clarity to this. Yesterday, the Senate Judiciary Democrats,
so Dick Durbin and all the Democrats of the Judiciary Committee,
they tweeted out a three word tweet. The three words
(14:25):
are free mahmood khalil. And then they have a picture
of Mahmoud standing in front of some black iron gate. Now,
let me just ask you who do you side with?
If you side with radical pro Haamas protesters, you should
be a democrat. Look that they are the party of Hamas.
(14:47):
They are the party of the radicals. If you actually
side with Israel, if you side with Jewish students, if
you side with America, if you don't like Hamas terrorists
that want to kill us, well, it is amazing the
divide we have. And this is a simple, clear divide.
And I'm grateful for Carolin Levitt for making clear. Listen
(15:07):
a US citizen. So it's interesting I've tweeted about this
quite a lot today, and there are some lefties who
say free speech, free speech. You're right, an American citizen
has a right to say horrible, noxious statements under free speech,
and I will defend your right. If you want to
defend Nazis, I'll defend your right to do that. If
you want to defend klansmen, I'll defend your right to
(15:29):
do that. Now, to be clear, I'll say you're an ignorant,
bigoted racist for doing that, But you have a right
to say that. But you know what, if you're not
an American citizen, if you have a student visa or
a green card, you are here on a permissive standard.
We don't have to allow you to stay. And it
says volumes that the Democrats say we would rather stand
(15:54):
with Hamas than stand with Israel or frankly, stand with America.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I want to move to this other story, and the
headline is one that is not a joke, it is real.
Doge is now said that they have uncovered three hundred
and twelve million senator in loans that were given to
children during the COVID pandemic. Yes, to children like nine
(16:24):
year olds, eleven year olds. There was three hundred and
twelve million that was approved and given to children.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, you said this is not a joke, and sadly
I wish it was. Here's what Fox News has reported.
Quote DOE said it identified this Small Business Association Administration
I assume granted nearly five thousand, six hundred loans for
three hundred and twelve million dollars to borrows who only
(16:51):
listed owner was eleven years old or younger at the
time of the loan. The loans were issued in twenty
and twenty twenty one and it is unclear what they
were used for. Quote, while it is possible to have
business arrangements where this is legal, five hundred and ninety
three loans, as they all also used a Social Security
(17:15):
number with the incorrect name. DOGE and the SBA government
are working together to solve this problem. This week. While
making the announcement, does shared a post on x from Tuesday,
where it also revealed that in twenty twenty and twenty
twenty one, the SBA issued three thousand, ninety five loans
(17:37):
for three hundred and thirty three million dollars to borrows
over one hundred and fifteen years old. The borrowers were
still marked as alive in the Social Security database. In
one case, a one hundred and fifty seven year old
individual received thirty six thousand dollars in loans. The agency said, Look,
(18:01):
this is I feel very confident that nobody is one
hundred and fifty seven years old, and if they are
and they're getting thirty six thousand dollars, that is fraud.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's fraud, and we all know this. And look, this
goes back to what President Trump said and is addressed
to Congress on Tuesday, when he talked about he said
there was millions of people aged over one hundred that
were listed on some security databases, with one being as
oldest three hundred and sixty years of age. And I
go back to Trump's quote there, I know some.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
People who are und I want to know, is that
guy the vampireless Stott? Is he like literally an age
ageless vampire who like flies with the bats?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah? Right, exactly. And this goes back to Elon Musk
and a job that he's doing that I got to
say rarely in my life, I thought there's a job
that only one guy could do well. It seems to
be Doge and Elon Musk because finding this type of
waste fraud abuse is exactly what Donald Trump promised, and
they're paying off on it. But every American that pays
(19:06):
taxes should be enraged by the fact that we're giving
this much money to people that are children, or this
much money to someone that's as old as three hundred
and sixty years of age.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
To be clear, if you're giving millions of dollars to
a five year old, you're not that is an adult
engaged in theft. If you're giving millions of dollars to
someone who's one hundred and fifty years old. You're not.
That is an adult engaged in theft. What this report
indicates is that the Biden administration didn't give a damn
(19:41):
about whether the money was actually going to real people
who had real needs, who were engaged in the purposes
for which Congress appropriated the money. Instead, they were just
shoveling money out the door, and tragically, the fraud was rampant.
In many instances, the fraud was going to radical left
wing demo credit groups because the Biden administration believed in
(20:03):
paying off their buddies. In other cases, they're just lazy.
They don't care. When a six year old puts in
an application for government money, the answer should be no,
because you're six and you ought to be playing with
blocks in kindergarten and not trying to get millions of
dollars from the government. But if you're a corrupt Democrat,
you give the millions of dollars and let the parents
(20:23):
use it for the political purposes they want.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, no doubt about it. And finally, let's deal with
a really fun story, and it deals with an app.
Uh it is, I call it the reverse HNO Card.
You remember that app that allowed for accountless people to
come into this country and just walk in knowing they
were here illegally. And it was an app that was
exploited by the Biden Harris administration. Well, we got a
(20:48):
reverse UNO card now center because we've got a new
app and it does actually the exact opposite of that,
which is you can hurry up and self deport yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, it's beautiful. So the administration la launched app called
the cbb one app. And here's what Bill Lugan, who
is the best reporter on immigration for Fox News, here's
what he reported, quote scoop. The Trump admin has repurposed
the controversial Biden era CBB one cell phone app into
(21:19):
a self deportationed app called CBBB Home that launches today.
DHS tells me any migrants who had prior CBBB one
app will have it auto update to this new app,
and DHS can use data from prior cbb one registrations
(21:41):
to track migrants for removal. The new app allows illegal
aliens and migrants in the US to register with CBP
to self deport. They fill out biographical information, including their
countries of citizenship, which country they plan to return to,
their alien registration numbers, contact information, and it allows them
(22:03):
to upload photos of themselves to confirm their identity. All
of it then is submitted to CBB As they leave
the country. You may ask yourself, why would an illegal
alien want to self deport? In a statement to Fox News,
DHS Secretary Christy Nome answered that the question quote. The
(22:24):
CBB Home app gives aliens the option to leave now
and self deport, so they may still have the opportunity
to return legally in the future and live the American dream.
If they don't, we will find them, we will deport them,
and they will never return. Nome said, the Biden administration
(22:46):
exploited the CBB one app to allow more than one
million aliens to enter the United States. With the launching
of CBB Home App, we are restoring integrity to our
immigration system.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
This may be one of the the simplest yet biggest
turn of events for a win on law and order
in our southern border dealing with the issue of immigration.
I just got to say, well done to the Trump
administration on this one. And they keep paying off on
their promises to the American people.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So ben I gotta say, I don't know if this
is gonna work or not. But I got to say,
if you're an illegal immigrant, you came to this country,
you went to a human trafficker, you were coming from,
say Central America. You came up through Mexico, and the
Biden administration said, hey, we've got an app. Fill out
your information. You can come here and we'll let you in.
And you filled it out. You came to America and
(23:38):
suddenly over your cell phone you get, oh crap, wait,
they want me to go home. And if I don't
go home, they're going to find me. They're going to
arrest me. They're going to send me home, and the
consequences are I can never come back. I don't know
how many people are going to respond to this, but
I think this is fabulous. Listen, my view on immigration
is simple. I've summed up my immigration view in fours.
(24:00):
Many times, legal good, illegal, bad. For the people who
are here illegally, the Trump administration is leaning in saying
we're going to secure the border, we're going to remove you.
And by the way, going back to our first story,
if you were a pro Hamas radical and anti Semite
protester and you're not a US citizen, bye bye, you're
(24:25):
gonna be deported, You're gonna be expelled, You're gonna be
thrown out of this country. That is a view that
makes an enormous amount of sense to me. And we
will see. And by the way, if we get the
data on how many people have used this app, we'll
report on this data on this podcast. But the simple
act of saying, all right, the prior administration opened up
(24:48):
our borders and let you in, we're now enforcing them,
I say, bravo, bravo, bravo.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
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Say so, Ben, Should I share it on Twitter? Should
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