September 20, 2025 • 27 mins
Producers Ali and Greg answer a frequent audience question about how we handle breaking news on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. The podcast also dives into the archives and pulls a Rush Limbaugh clip talking about the first time he met Charlie Kirk. Glenn Beck's tribute to Charlie. And a big thank you to the Clay and Buck audience for all of your support during this difficult time mourning one of our own.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the After Hours edition of The Clay and
Buck Show with producer Ali.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And producer Greg.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hi, how are you good.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We haven't done this in a while, Greg. We try
to do these about once a month where we jump
into the feed and just you know, surprise everybody with
a little easter egg telling them about what goes on
behind the scenes here on Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, it's been too long. I think we did this
last in.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
June or the beginning of the summer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, So there's been a lot that's happened since that
period of time and wanted to take a few minutes
and just talk to you about it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, And just with the recent events the assassination of
Charlie Kirk, we thought there's a few things we wanted
to touch on today. But a question we get a
lot of times is how do you guys handle things
on the show when there's a breaking news event while
you're live?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Right? And this is good because actually we actually haven't
talked about this much off air or off Mike. So
I'd like to get your perspective about how you remember
things on that day, on that terrible day.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's actually, let's see, it's Thursday right now at the
time that we're recording this, so it was exactly a
week ago. But the day before, on Wednesday, we were
coming to the end of our show. At that time,
Clay and Buck were in their home studios, so none
of us were together except you and I Greg in
the New York studio, and I remember we first started
getting some alerts and we were in the middle of
(01:25):
a segment, and You and I were kind of looking
at each other, is this real?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is this fake?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And we didn't want to interrupt Clay and Buck in
their flow is what we call it when they're in
the middle of a segment, but we definitely our eyes
bulged and we both were frantically trying to confirm what
we were starting to the trickle of information that was
starting to come out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, if I can roll back even just a little
bit before that, I had gotten a call. Just taking
screening calls, I got a call from a listener who
said was kind of frantic, actually said I was. I
just got a call from my brother. He was at
this event in Utah and Charlie Kirk is been shot
and I misheard it and I thought it was somebody else.
I thought you said, actually, Charlie hurt and you know
(02:06):
who's another prominent journalists snooze, right, And so I got
I was like, all right, we're going to look into
this because people call sometimes and say things and we
always have to check them out.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Simultaneously, I was getting emails on the VIP email line
saying exactly the same thing, Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, because I so, I got off and I said,
I got a call about Charlie one of the Charlie's
getting shot. And you blanched because you also also were
getting the emails at the same time. You're like, I
just got I have a bunch of emails saying this
as well. And for that, once you said that and
I had that, we put it all together like, oh no,
(02:44):
something really bad.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And then we actually went to we were going to
a commercial break at that point. And right away as
soon as we went to the commercial break, because Clay
and Buck both of their phones, they were getting text
messages and because they're live, they can't really address things
sometimes right in that moment, they don't know either, so
they immediately said to both of us, we're getting these reports.
You guys, confirm this, confirm this we're getting these reports,
(03:06):
get on it, and so we're all over the place
trying to find sources. Because, as we know, and we've
worked in this business long enough, usually the first twenty
four hours of a breaking news event, almost I would
almost wager seventy five percent of the information that news
outlets report has some level of inaccuracy. So I always
tell people, as a rule, wait for the news cycle
(03:29):
to play itself out, especially in the age of social media,
when things are flying a mile a minute. So we
were kind of hoping, this isn't true, This is just
a rumor, this isn't true. And then, unfortunately, we realized
it was indeed true. And I ran over to the
Hannity's studio, which is right next to our studio, and
I spoke with Hannity's producer showed me the video.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, I was starting to see because I was doing
all kinds of checking. I was checking X, I was
checking all these different as well, other wires, just trying
to see what kind of information was out there. Oh, okay,
this is in Utah and all these others. Oh and oh,
somebody says that they have a video. So I while
you were out there talking to Linda and everybody over there.
(04:16):
I thought, all right, I found this video and I
started to watch it, and I watched it and it
was just it was jarring too terrible. Yeah, jarring is
an excellent word for it. You just felt.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Awful, and we both were somewhat in denial, hoping this
was some sort of AI trick, that this wasn't real.
And then I texted it to Buck and Clay. I
showed them and I was like, could this be fake?
And that's when Buck, who does have a lot of
firearms experience, and he kind of took a look at
it and he said, I don't this does not look good.
(04:49):
We all at that point just immediately went into prayer,
hoping right that it wasn't what it was.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And so things are going along and is he in
the hospital? Is he on the way to the hospital?
What do we know? And then the show ends suddenly,
you know, it's it was the last twenty minutes of
the show, I mean, and it went fast.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's actually less segment was it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Was even less than the last twenty minutes. Yeah, so
it was It was really a lot of information that
we're trying to convey in a very very very short
period of time, and it wasn't until an hour or
two after the show went off the air before the
word came down that he had.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It was less than that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was during Will Kine's show when it was confirmed,
and they actually had immediately booked Buck to come on
his show because of his background, right, And at that
point in time, Buck had actually gotten word, but he
it wasn't official. So he was holding that because he,
you know, out of respect, and he said it was
one of the hardest segments he did because he knew
(05:50):
and he just had to, you know, keep it together
until that could be officially confirmed for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I'm sitting meanwhile, I've I go home. I live
upstate a little bit, and I get on a train.
I walk out of here and I go and I
get on my train and I'm listening to w OAR
on the iHeart app. I'm listening to Sean's show, and
he's talking to Eric Trump. Actually, yeah, he was talking
to Eric Trump and talking about all of this stuff
(06:15):
that's going on. And then I lost a signal and
I came back and next thing I know, Linda is
talking to Jason Chafitz.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And who was there at the event?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Who was there at the event. And then they come
on and they start talking about John Solomon reporting that
it's official that he and you know, as soon as
she said that, John Solomon said it, you knew, Yeah,
that was it. It was it was fact. Basically John
Solomon says it it's you know, because he's such a
reliable source.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Percent And then I literally sat at my desk just
in disbelief for the next thirty minutes, like I couldn't move.
I was just staring at the TV and that chirn
saying Charlie Kirk dead. I just something just hit me
in the gut, like I just felt sadness, sorrow, but
also unbelievable anger, like I just wanted to throw things.
(07:07):
I was so so, so angry, deeply angry, to the
point I probably said some things I'm not proud of
saying in the moment, in the heat of the moment,
because I was just so gutted. But then upon reflection
a few days later, when people were describing or talking
about what the punishment will be when they eventually caught
the guy, and people are all like death penalty, death penalty,
(07:28):
I actually rolled back some of my initial thoughts, and
I spoke with my husband about it, and I said,
you know, I don't think the death penalty is the
way he should go. I actually think a better thing
to do. I talked to you about this solitary confinement,
and the only thing he can have access to is
Charlie Kirk's speeches, videos, debates, books, TV appearances.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just that's it. That's all he gets.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And he has to be forced day in and day
out to consume Charlie Kirk over and over and over again.
And then my hope would be he's what twenty twenty two.
My hope would be that by the time he's twenty five,
maybe sooner, probably sooner, he would have this major epiphany,
a major awakening about just how wrong he was, and
(08:17):
then he would come out and say, as a confession,
you know what, over the years in solitary listening to this,
listening to Charlie, I realized how deeply wrong I was,
and give him a chance to show almost a kind
of redemption, because that, to me, would be more effective
than just death penalty, because death penalty the people who
(08:40):
agree with him.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Which that we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That all the reaction to the assassination, but before that,
just in general, like all of the things he learned.
For him to come out later and say I was
wrong about this, then all the supporters and all the
people celebrating, then what are.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
They faced with?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, so I just feel like that would actually be
more productive than just taking the guy out.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't know. I don't know. To be honest with you,
I haven't I'm of two minds of the whole thing.
It was really I don't know. It's really hard. Death
penalty may be too good for him. But at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I mean, he wanted to commit suicide. Their finding now anyways,
So why just give him that and then nothing? There's
nothing gained. The left is still gonna think he's a martyr,
They're still going to cheer him.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I don't feel like anything is gained.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Whereas if you expose him to Charlie Kirk and force
feed him, essentially there's no way he can't see the
air of his ways.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, if that would pass forth, pass Fourth Amendment, muster, Yeah,
you know, that would be an interesting That would be
an interesting way of approaching a nice, nice penalty. But
for me. You talked about going home, and it's a
similar sort of I had a similar sort of reaction.
I just had a dark cloud. There was a pall
over me. And I came home and I talked to
(09:57):
my wife and how are you? I said, I'm not good.
I am not good. There was just such a cloud
over me and everything. And I hugged her and I
held her and I cried a little bit. And it
was the same, you know, and then come, you know,
go to bed, eat something, go to bed, come back
(10:18):
into the office the next day and the same sort
of thing. There was just a cloud over everything. I
talked to Linda, I talked to Sean's staff, and it
was just everybody just was kind of a zombie and
walking in a daze. And you know, prepping for that
show that day. I knew that that was really going
to be the only thing we were going to be
(10:38):
talking about. That was the only thing.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
We were going to be the next two days.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So it was really trying to trying to get ready
for that. Those shows. Was it was like walking through
Hayz I don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Kept texting our group chat and he was like, I
still can't believe it, Like it's almost like we're in disbelief.
It took a while, three days in and we're still
like did this really happen? Are we in an alternative universe? Like?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Did this really happen? And now we get to the reaction,
the lovely reaction.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I unfriended so many people, people that I'm actually saddened
and remarkably disappointed in that they had the types of
reactions they did.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And look I have.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I would say the majority of my friends are on
the left. I live in New York City. It's the
product of my environment.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But some of them, I'm like, you're adults, your parents.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I would expect dumb college kids who don't know any better,
who are indoctrinated college students, as Rush would say, young
skulls full of mush. I would almost expect that from
stupid kids. But some of my peers I'm in my fifties,
that are parents that were like, oh, well he said this,
and oh one time he said that. And by the way,
some of the things that they were posting, like statements
(11:52):
fully out of context, clearly had never listened to a
word the guy said, misquoting him. Oh my god, and
over and over and over again. As a justification that
this was okay. I was so revolted over that reaction.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, that was my reaction too. I ran into that
a little bit with people close to me and online
and in my day to day life as well.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
When you think about how we got to this place
where something like this could occur, you ask yourself how
and why?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, this has been this groundwork has been being laid
for a long time now many I mean many, many,
many years. You actually had suggested putting together this montage
about looking and calling the president a fascist and Hitler
and hit Nazi, all of these things. And this goes back.
(12:46):
I mean, this has been part of the liberal slash
Democrat playbook going back to at least George W. Bush,
and you could probably find, you know, even read in it.
I'm gonna go and be back beyond there. Sure, So
you know, I just took a little bit from the
(13:07):
last couple of years, and you know, it's just an
endless and we're going to play this for you. But
my last little bit about that is it doesn't seem
like they've learned. There have been instances in the last
couple of days since we played that montage that I
could have added to that montage and you know they're
leaning in. It would double, it would double the length
of it just in the last couple of days, which
(13:28):
is absolutely crazy. So why don't we go ahead and
play that montage for you? It's not a stretch to
call Donald Trump a fascist?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes? I do, Yes,
I do.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Donald Trump is a fascist.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And increasingly obviously fascist person, this fascist pig.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
No one has ever been more dangerous to this country
than Donald Trump, and he is a fascist to his core.
Do we want to continue democracy or do we want
to slip into fascism?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So fascist nazi? If you keep saying this stuff over
and over and over again, that is dehumanizing. And I
actually thought claim Buck addressed this really really well this
week because they were talking about, you know, baby Hitler, and.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Oh that baby Hitler argument drives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Talk about that a little bit well.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Because it's like hindsight, Oh if you could kill baby Hitler.
But like a baby is born and then it's environment.
I mean, it goes to the is are people born
truly evil? And I do believe in true evil, But
to just you, it's like armchair quarterbacking life, Like, you
don't know what any baby is going to turn out.
(14:39):
You don't know which paths, which where their circumstances will
lead them, right, So I almost feel like it's a
I don't accept the premise of Okay, let's kill a
baby before it's life. Hasn't made any decision, did you say,
I'm saying I just find it a weak argument.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay. I think the idea of going back in time
and you know, the morality and the ethics of being
having to confront that situation is an interesting mind game
or brain teaser that sort of thing. It's really not
a practical thing to have a discussion about because you know,
(15:15):
time travel is just science fiction and there's nothing that
we can really do to really talk about. It is
just really more of just mental bubble gum.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's like if you could have prevented that accident from happening,
or if you could go back and prevent you know,
this company falling apart.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I don't know. I just find those type of arguments
very weak.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
But that's that's the whole idea that the Left is
starting to is trying to embrace. You know, Oh, well,
we have to call Trump Hitler now because we want
to make sure that we don't go down the same
path that they went down seventy eighty years ago and they,
you know, Germany did. Germany didn't recognize what Hitler was
and all that. We want to make sure that we
have and you end up demonizing and dehumanizing, Yes, the
(16:01):
people that you're pointing the finger out and that you're
calling those names too, and it's it's a terrible and
inevitably we I mean, honestly, we should have seen something
like this Charlie Kirk coming a lot a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Clay actually he actually thought that something like this was
destined to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I remember him.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We had some concerns about that and mentioning that. But
again back to the to try to say that Charlie
Kirk was a baby Trump in the making and o
maga threat and that to me is the most asinine perspective.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, well, honestly, I really think he was a Rush
Limbaugh in the making. And yeah, we actually didn't play
the SoundBite today from Glenn Beck who filled in on
Charlie's show and brought the golden EIB microphone.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Oh we have that sound bite too. Yeah, on the
list today.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And it was on the list today. We can we
can play?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, why don't we throw that in there?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It nice. That was a nice thing Glenn's.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
He says that he basically implies that Charlie was the
next Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I brought something with me today that I thought was
appropriate while I did the show that I would sit
in front of Charlie's microphone. It was given to me
after the death of Rush Limbaugh by his wife. It
is Russia's golden microphone. I think it's appropriate that it
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sits in front of Charlie's microphone. Charlie was a pastor
and a priest and listening to the way he could
argue and think differently. He was a rabbi as well,
and one of the best. He was a political organizer.
He was a political think take himself. He was a
(17:51):
compassionate friend. He surpassed Rush Limbaugh by miles.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
We turning Point USA.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
We found an old archive clip that they posted and
I didn't even find this in our owner archives, so
I was glad I saw this. It was from January
eleventh of twenty and eighteen, and it was Rush describing
the first time he met Charlie Kirk, and it actually
gave me the shivers when I listened to it. I'm
(18:23):
not going to say anymore. I'm just going to let
you hear it too.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
There was a conference what was it three Turning Point USA.
How many kids were there? Three thousand student activists here
in was actually over at West Palm Beach. And this
is a group that has been put together and operates
under the auspices of Charlie Kirk, right, who is a
(18:46):
You're going to be hearing that name if you haven't.
He is enough Charlie. Let me just tell you. Let
me just tell you. I don't want to jinx him,
but I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just going to tell you.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet
me about a month ago. He was in town to
set up this Turning Point thing, and they brought him
to the golf course to meet me. It was during
We're getting ready for a eight forty five am start,
and they brought him out while I was getting ready
to go to the range loosen up, and I spoke
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with him for about a half hour, and he told
me how he grew up in a home where my
program was on all the time. He was just effusively
complimentary to me, which which I of course understood and
told him he's very wise, his family's very wise. He chuckled,
(19:39):
he laughed. This is the kind of guy that you
can see really becoming big in politics as he gets older.
He just has the kind the carriage, the personality, the charisma.
You may think this sounds weird, but I remember when
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Bill Clinton became president. There were all of these stories
about Bill Clinton at Oxford and Bill Clinton at Yale,
and Bill Clinton here and all these people who went
to school with him. There were story after story after
story where people were saying that they just knew Bill
Clinton was going to be president someday in college. He
just had that kind of ambition and the impressed people
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in a way that he could. Peggy Noonan even told
me this. Peggy Noonon went to one of these these
weekends that Democrats do before we concocted it for ourselves,
the Restoration weekend that Hurwitz does. The Democrats had one
of those long before we did, and Peggy Noonon went
to one. And this was before nineteen ninety two, this
is before Clinton got the nomination. She came back extolling
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this guy's virtues to me, the governor of Arkansas, and
of course I was I was kind of leery because
here's Peggy, a supposed conservatives, singing the virtues of this
Arkansas Democrat governor. In fact, that was the first time
I had heard anything significantly positive about about Clinton.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It was from her.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
And I'm telling you that people are saying the same
things about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Rush was always very pruscient, and he was right on
about Charlie Kirk. I mean that was from two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I know, I know, seven years ago, almost eight years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
One thing that really hits me is that Charlie Kirk
was taken out in the way that they tried to
take out.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Trump at Butler.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Absolutely that lower than I reserve all the words I
want to say that individual. He succeeded where the Butler
assassin did not. And in some way, I don't even
know how to articulate the thoughts I have, because we
could have been going through this last year, last summer,
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and you know what, we would have also been going
through the reaction, which would have been amplified by so much.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh yeah, so I don't I can.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Barely handle this. I can't imagine how I would have
handled that.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, as bad as it was the reaction from the
left on about Charlie Kirk, it would have been tenfold
one hundredfold worse if they had succeeded in Butler against
President Trump. But nobody has taken shots at Keith Obermin.
Nobody's taken shots at Don Lymon, nobody's taken shots at
Brian Stelter or Jake Tapper or any of that. None
(22:23):
of those people, Rachel maddout, nobody is, No one is
doing that. And all I keep hearing about from the
Southern Poverty Law Center is, you know, Christian nationalism and
white supremacy and far right altra right as the major dangers.
It's just not borne out by the fact.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We had a couple events coming up that we've had
to cancel, yep, because just for our own host safety.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I'm not gonna take that risk. Am I gonna take
that chance?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And I don't know about you, but my head's on
a swivel now every time I leave the building, every
time I'm walking out on the street and heading for
the train, and I'm constantly Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
We had a security guard escort us escort us on
Tuesday when we brought Clay to the stephen A. Smith
debate and we had to walk a few blocks. We're
in midtown Manhattan, going through Times Square, hundreds of people,
and I mean I was like the Exorcist in my head,
was spinning around so much looking at everybody we passed.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I was on record as opposing
you actually got you guys actually walking.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I mean I had my pepper spray and that was
about it. But we did have the guard. But still,
this is kind of terrifying time.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's a scary time that we happen to live in.
And that's that's been the hard part too, is just
going home and then you know, trying to decompress from
all of this stuff. How we can get by it quickly?
And I you know, I it's all I can say
is well, and I will we can continue to work
to do that. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I will say it has been really heartwarming to read
all of yours that you've been sending. In listening to
your talkbacks, our audience has been super supportive, and I
got to tell you, Clay and Buck, that's really meant
a lot to them too. That, just knowing they have
a huge audience that has their back and that supports them,
(24:17):
and we stand strong and we keep speaking our minds
and speaking the truth and not being deterred to hear
from you. Thanking them that meant the world to them
in the past week. So I just want to say
thank you to our audience for doing that.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, they're always really grateful when you reach out, when
you touch base with them in any manner. And it's
been a rough it's been a rough week.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's been a rough week.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's been a rough week.
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Helps your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So if you just need to stay sharp and focused,
and you know, you have to write a paper at
school or you have to you're at work and you
have to get through expense reports like I do later,
you can just say, okay, Chad, you and I just
for the next hour, we're going to be completely focused
on whatever project.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, that's you know, it's good with your workout, it's
good with your helping in the office, that sort of thing.
Working in. We'll call it that way. So working out,
working in, trying your Chad mode. Go to chalk dot
com choq Q.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The Q is important because Chuck, I want to spell
it like the stuff we wrote on the sidewalk with
as kids, but it's actually c HOQ. And if you're
at the website and you see some stuff you might like,
remember to put in Clay or Buck's name and you'll
get a bit of a discount.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's right, that's right. Yeah, it's always a good thing
to get save a little money that way.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So all right, Greg, Well, until we do another after hours, only.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
A lot less time will go between this one and
the next one.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, we'd like to take any questions you have about
what goes on behind the scenes of the show. So
this this one was kind of focused on how we
deal with breaking news, anything else you'd like to know
how we put together the show, or.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Any of the other staff, producer Mike who you know
who runs the board, or producer Mark and his hockey
if he has any any questions for him for that anything,
just just send reach out to us. Yes, go on
the iHeart app, send us a talk back and we
always get him and we always listen to him.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So all right, until next time, Thank you, Greg.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm producer, Greg, I'm producer Alie
Welcome to the After Hours edition of The Clay and
Buck Show with producer Ali.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And producer Greg.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hi, how are you good.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
We haven't done this in a while, Greg. We try
to do these about once a month where we jump
into the feed and just you know, surprise everybody with
a little easter egg telling them about what goes on
behind the scenes here on Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, it's been too long. I think we did this
last in.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
June or the beginning of the summer. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, So there's been a lot that's happened since that
period of time and wanted to take a few minutes
and just talk to you about it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, And just with the recent events the assassination of
Charlie Kirk, we thought there's a few things we wanted
to touch on today. But a question we get a
lot of times is how do you guys handle things
on the show when there's a breaking news event while
you're live?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Right? And this is good because actually we actually haven't
talked about this much off air or off Mike. So
I'd like to get your perspective about how you remember
things on that day, on that terrible day.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's actually, let's see, it's Thursday right now at the
time that we're recording this, so it was exactly a
week ago. But the day before, on Wednesday, we were
coming to the end of our show. At that time,
Clay and Buck were in their home studios, so none
of us were together except you and I Greg in
the New York studio, and I remember we first started
getting some alerts and we were in the middle of
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a segment, and You and I were kind of looking
at each other, is this real?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is this fake?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
And we didn't want to interrupt Clay and Buck in
their flow is what we call it when they're in
the middle of a segment, but we definitely our eyes
bulged and we both were frantically trying to confirm what
we were starting to the trickle of information that was
starting to come out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, if I can roll back even just a little
bit before that, I had gotten a call. Just taking
screening calls, I got a call from a listener who
said was kind of frantic, actually said I was. I
just got a call from my brother. He was at
this event in Utah and Charlie Kirk is been shot
and I misheard it and I thought it was somebody else.
I thought you said, actually, Charlie hurt and you know
(02:06):
who's another prominent journalists snooze, right, And so I got
I was like, all right, we're going to look into
this because people call sometimes and say things and we
always have to check them out.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Simultaneously, I was getting emails on the VIP email line
saying exactly the same thing, Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, because I so, I got off and I said,
I got a call about Charlie one of the Charlie's
getting shot. And you blanched because you also also were
getting the emails at the same time. You're like, I
just got I have a bunch of emails saying this
as well. And for that, once you said that and
I had that, we put it all together like, oh no,
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something really bad.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And then we actually went to we were going to
a commercial break at that point. And right away as
soon as we went to the commercial break, because Clay
and Buck both of their phones, they were getting text
messages and because they're live, they can't really address things
sometimes right in that moment, they don't know either, so
they immediately said to both of us, we're getting these reports.
You guys, confirm this, confirm this we're getting these reports,
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get on it, and so we're all over the place
trying to find sources. Because, as we know, and we've
worked in this business long enough, usually the first twenty
four hours of a breaking news event, almost I would
almost wager seventy five percent of the information that news
outlets report has some level of inaccuracy. So I always
tell people, as a rule, wait for the news cycle
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to play itself out, especially in the age of social media,
when things are flying a mile a minute. So we
were kind of hoping, this isn't true, This is just
a rumor, this isn't true. And then, unfortunately, we realized
it was indeed true. And I ran over to the
Hannity's studio, which is right next to our studio, and
I spoke with Hannity's producer showed me the video.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, I was starting to see because I was doing
all kinds of checking. I was checking X, I was
checking all these different as well, other wires, just trying
to see what kind of information was out there. Oh, okay,
this is in Utah and all these others. Oh and oh,
somebody says that they have a video. So I while
you were out there talking to Linda and everybody over there.
(04:16):
I thought, all right, I found this video and I
started to watch it, and I watched it and it
was just it was jarring too terrible. Yeah, jarring is
an excellent word for it. You just felt.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Awful, and we both were somewhat in denial, hoping this
was some sort of AI trick, that this wasn't real.
And then I texted it to Buck and Clay. I
showed them and I was like, could this be fake?
And that's when Buck, who does have a lot of
firearms experience, and he kind of took a look at
it and he said, I don't this does not look good.
(04:49):
We all at that point just immediately went into prayer,
hoping right that it wasn't what it was.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And so things are going along and is he in
the hospital? Is he on the way to the hospital?
What do we know? And then the show ends suddenly,
you know, it's it was the last twenty minutes of
the show, I mean, and it went fast.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It's actually less segment was it.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Was even less than the last twenty minutes. Yeah, so
it was It was really a lot of information that
we're trying to convey in a very very very short
period of time, and it wasn't until an hour or
two after the show went off the air before the
word came down that he had.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
It was less than that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It was during Will Kine's show when it was confirmed,
and they actually had immediately booked Buck to come on
his show because of his background, right, And at that
point in time, Buck had actually gotten word, but he
it wasn't official. So he was holding that because he,
you know, out of respect, and he said it was
one of the hardest segments he did because he knew
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and he just had to, you know, keep it together
until that could be officially confirmed for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So I'm sitting meanwhile, I've I go home. I live
upstate a little bit, and I get on a train.
I walk out of here and I go and I
get on my train and I'm listening to w OAR
on the iHeart app. I'm listening to Sean's show, and
he's talking to Eric Trump. Actually, yeah, he was talking
to Eric Trump and talking about all of this stuff
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that's going on. And then I lost a signal and
I came back and next thing I know, Linda is
talking to Jason Chafitz.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And who was there at the event?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Who was there at the event. And then they come
on and they start talking about John Solomon reporting that
it's official that he and you know, as soon as
she said that, John Solomon said it, you knew, Yeah,
that was it. It was it was fact. Basically John
Solomon says it it's you know, because he's such a
reliable source.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Percent And then I literally sat at my desk just
in disbelief for the next thirty minutes, like I couldn't move.
I was just staring at the TV and that chirn
saying Charlie Kirk dead. I just something just hit me
in the gut, like I just felt sadness, sorrow, but
also unbelievable anger, like I just wanted to throw things.
(07:07):
I was so so, so angry, deeply angry, to the
point I probably said some things I'm not proud of
saying in the moment, in the heat of the moment,
because I was just so gutted. But then upon reflection
a few days later, when people were describing or talking
about what the punishment will be when they eventually caught
the guy, and people are all like death penalty, death penalty,
(07:28):
I actually rolled back some of my initial thoughts, and
I spoke with my husband about it, and I said,
you know, I don't think the death penalty is the
way he should go. I actually think a better thing
to do. I talked to you about this solitary confinement,
and the only thing he can have access to is
Charlie Kirk's speeches, videos, debates, books, TV appearances.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Just that's it. That's all he gets.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And he has to be forced day in and day
out to consume Charlie Kirk over and over and over again.
And then my hope would be he's what twenty twenty two.
My hope would be that by the time he's twenty five,
maybe sooner, probably sooner, he would have this major epiphany,
a major awakening about just how wrong he was, and
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then he would come out and say, as a confession,
you know what, over the years in solitary listening to this,
listening to Charlie, I realized how deeply wrong I was,
and give him a chance to show almost a kind
of redemption, because that, to me, would be more effective
than just death penalty, because death penalty the people who
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agree with him.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Which that we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That all the reaction to the assassination, but before that,
just in general, like all of the things he learned.
For him to come out later and say I was
wrong about this, then all the supporters and all the
people celebrating, then what are.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
They faced with?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, so I just feel like that would actually be
more productive than just taking the guy out.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't know. I don't know. To be honest with you,
I haven't I'm of two minds of the whole thing.
It was really I don't know. It's really hard. Death
penalty may be too good for him. But at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I mean, he wanted to commit suicide. Their finding now anyways,
So why just give him that and then nothing? There's
nothing gained. The left is still gonna think he's a martyr,
They're still going to cheer him.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I don't feel like anything is gained.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Whereas if you expose him to Charlie Kirk and force
feed him, essentially there's no way he can't see the
air of his ways.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, I mean, if that would pass forth, pass Fourth Amendment, muster, Yeah,
you know, that would be an interesting That would be
an interesting way of approaching a nice, nice penalty. But
for me. You talked about going home, and it's a
similar sort of I had a similar sort of reaction.
I just had a dark cloud. There was a pall
over me. And I came home and I talked to
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my wife and how are you? I said, I'm not good.
I am not good. There was just such a cloud
over me and everything. And I hugged her and I
held her and I cried a little bit. And it
was the same, you know, and then come, you know,
go to bed, eat something, go to bed, come back
(10:18):
into the office the next day and the same sort
of thing. There was just a cloud over everything. I
talked to Linda, I talked to Sean's staff, and it
was just everybody just was kind of a zombie and
walking in a daze. And you know, prepping for that
show that day. I knew that that was really going
to be the only thing we were going to be
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talking about. That was the only thing.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
We were going to be the next two days.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
So it was really trying to trying to get ready
for that. Those shows. Was it was like walking through
Hayz I don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Kept texting our group chat and he was like, I
still can't believe it, Like it's almost like we're in disbelief.
It took a while, three days in and we're still
like did this really happen? Are we in an alternative universe? Like?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Did this really happen? And now we get to the reaction,
the lovely reaction.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I unfriended so many people, people that I'm actually saddened
and remarkably disappointed in that they had the types of
reactions they did.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And look I have.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I would say the majority of my friends are on
the left. I live in New York City. It's the
product of my environment.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But some of them, I'm like, you're adults, your parents.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I would expect dumb college kids who don't know any better,
who are indoctrinated college students, as Rush would say, young
skulls full of mush. I would almost expect that from
stupid kids. But some of my peers I'm in my fifties,
that are parents that were like, oh, well he said this,
and oh one time he said that. And by the way,
some of the things that they were posting, like statements
(11:52):
fully out of context, clearly had never listened to a
word the guy said, misquoting him. Oh my god, and
over and over and over again. As a justification that
this was okay. I was so revolted over that reaction.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, that was my reaction too. I ran into that
a little bit with people close to me and online
and in my day to day life as well.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Greg.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
When you think about how we got to this place
where something like this could occur, you ask yourself how
and why?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, this has been this groundwork has been being laid
for a long time now many I mean many, many,
many years. You actually had suggested putting together this montage
about looking and calling the president a fascist and Hitler
and hit Nazi, all of these things. And this goes back.
(12:46):
I mean, this has been part of the liberal slash
Democrat playbook going back to at least George W. Bush,
and you could probably find, you know, even read in it.
I'm gonna go and be back beyond there. Sure, So
you know, I just took a little bit from the
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last couple of years, and you know, it's just an
endless and we're going to play this for you. But
my last little bit about that is it doesn't seem
like they've learned. There have been instances in the last
couple of days since we played that montage that I
could have added to that montage and you know they're
leaning in. It would double, it would double the length
of it just in the last couple of days, which
(13:28):
is absolutely crazy. So why don't we go ahead and
play that montage for you? It's not a stretch to
call Donald Trump a fascist?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes? I do, Yes,
I do.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Donald Trump is a fascist.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And increasingly obviously fascist person, this fascist pig.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
No one has ever been more dangerous to this country
than Donald Trump, and he is a fascist to his core.
Do we want to continue democracy or do we want
to slip into fascism?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So fascist nazi? If you keep saying this stuff over
and over and over again, that is dehumanizing. And I
actually thought claim Buck addressed this really really well this
week because they were talking about, you know, baby Hitler, and.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Oh that baby Hitler argument drives me crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Talk about that a little bit well.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Because it's like hindsight, Oh if you could kill baby Hitler.
But like a baby is born and then it's environment.
I mean, it goes to the is are people born
truly evil? And I do believe in true evil, But
to just you, it's like armchair quarterbacking life, Like, you
don't know what any baby is going to turn out.
(14:39):
You don't know which paths, which where their circumstances will
lead them, right, So I almost feel like it's a
I don't accept the premise of Okay, let's kill a
baby before it's life. Hasn't made any decision, did you say,
I'm saying I just find it a weak argument.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay. I think the idea of going back in time
and you know, the morality and the ethics of being
having to confront that situation is an interesting mind game
or brain teaser that sort of thing. It's really not
a practical thing to have a discussion about because you know,
(15:15):
time travel is just science fiction and there's nothing that
we can really do to really talk about. It is
just really more of just mental bubble gum.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It's like if you could have prevented that accident from happening,
or if you could go back and prevent you know,
this company falling apart.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I don't know. I just find those type of arguments
very weak.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
But that's that's the whole idea that the Left is
starting to is trying to embrace. You know, Oh, well,
we have to call Trump Hitler now because we want
to make sure that we don't go down the same
path that they went down seventy eighty years ago and they,
you know, Germany did. Germany didn't recognize what Hitler was
and all that. We want to make sure that we
have and you end up demonizing and dehumanizing, Yes, the
(16:01):
people that you're pointing the finger out and that you're
calling those names too, and it's it's a terrible and
inevitably we I mean, honestly, we should have seen something
like this Charlie Kirk coming a lot a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Clay actually he actually thought that something like this was
destined to happen.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, I remember him.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We had some concerns about that and mentioning that. But
again back to the to try to say that Charlie
Kirk was a baby Trump in the making and o
maga threat and that to me is the most asinine perspective.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, well, honestly, I really think he was a Rush
Limbaugh in the making. And yeah, we actually didn't play
the SoundBite today from Glenn Beck who filled in on
Charlie's show and brought the golden EIB microphone.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Oh we have that sound bite too. Yeah, on the
list today.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And it was on the list today. We can we
can play?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, why don't we throw that in there?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It nice. That was a nice thing Glenn's.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
He says that he basically implies that Charlie was the
next Rush Limbaugh.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I brought something with me today that I thought was
appropriate while I did the show that I would sit
in front of Charlie's microphone. It was given to me
after the death of Rush Limbaugh by his wife. It
is Russia's golden microphone. I think it's appropriate that it
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sits in front of Charlie's microphone. Charlie was a pastor
and a priest and listening to the way he could
argue and think differently. He was a rabbi as well,
and one of the best. He was a political organizer.
He was a political think take himself. He was a
(17:51):
compassionate friend. He surpassed Rush Limbaugh by miles.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
We turning Point USA.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
We found an old archive clip that they posted and
I didn't even find this in our owner archives, so
I was glad I saw this. It was from January
eleventh of twenty and eighteen, and it was Rush describing
the first time he met Charlie Kirk, and it actually
gave me the shivers when I listened to it. I'm
(18:23):
not going to say anymore. I'm just going to let
you hear it too.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
There was a conference what was it three Turning Point USA.
How many kids were there? Three thousand student activists here
in was actually over at West Palm Beach. And this
is a group that has been put together and operates
under the auspices of Charlie Kirk, right, who is a
(18:46):
You're going to be hearing that name if you haven't.
He is enough Charlie. Let me just tell you. Let
me just tell you. I don't want to jinx him,
but I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Just going to tell you.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet
me about a month ago. He was in town to
set up this Turning Point thing, and they brought him
to the golf course to meet me. It was during
We're getting ready for a eight forty five am start,
and they brought him out while I was getting ready
to go to the range loosen up, and I spoke
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with him for about a half hour, and he told
me how he grew up in a home where my
program was on all the time. He was just effusively
complimentary to me, which which I of course understood and
told him he's very wise, his family's very wise. He chuckled,
(19:39):
he laughed. This is the kind of guy that you
can see really becoming big in politics as he gets older.
He just has the kind the carriage, the personality, the charisma.
You may think this sounds weird, but I remember when
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Bill Clinton became president. There were all of these stories
about Bill Clinton at Oxford and Bill Clinton at Yale,
and Bill Clinton here and all these people who went
to school with him. There were story after story after
story where people were saying that they just knew Bill
Clinton was going to be president someday in college. He
just had that kind of ambition and the impressed people
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in a way that he could. Peggy Noonan even told
me this. Peggy Noonon went to one of these these
weekends that Democrats do before we concocted it for ourselves,
the Restoration weekend that Hurwitz does. The Democrats had one
of those long before we did, and Peggy Noonon went
to one. And this was before nineteen ninety two, this
is before Clinton got the nomination. She came back extolling
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this guy's virtues to me, the governor of Arkansas, and
of course I was I was kind of leery because
here's Peggy, a supposed conservatives, singing the virtues of this
Arkansas Democrat governor. In fact, that was the first time
I had heard anything significantly positive about about Clinton.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It was from her.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
And I'm telling you that people are saying the same
things about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Rush was always very pruscient, and he was right on
about Charlie Kirk. I mean that was from two thousand
and eight.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I know, I know, seven years ago, almost eight years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
One thing that really hits me is that Charlie Kirk
was taken out in the way that they tried to
take out.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Trump at Butler.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Absolutely that lower than I reserve all the words I
want to say that individual. He succeeded where the Butler
assassin did not. And in some way, I don't even
know how to articulate the thoughts I have, because we
could have been going through this last year, last summer,
(21:48):
and you know what, we would have also been going
through the reaction, which would have been amplified by so much.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Oh yeah, so I don't I can.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Barely handle this. I can't imagine how I would have
handled that.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, as bad as it was the reaction from the
left on about Charlie Kirk, it would have been tenfold
one hundredfold worse if they had succeeded in Butler against
President Trump. But nobody has taken shots at Keith Obermin.
Nobody's taken shots at Don Lymon, nobody's taken shots at
Brian Stelter or Jake Tapper or any of that. None
(22:23):
of those people, Rachel maddout, nobody is, No one is
doing that. And all I keep hearing about from the
Southern Poverty Law Center is, you know, Christian nationalism and
white supremacy and far right altra right as the major dangers.
It's just not borne out by the fact.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
We had a couple events coming up that we've had
to cancel, yep, because just for our own host safety.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I'm not gonna take that risk. Am I gonna take
that chance?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
And I don't know about you, but my head's on
a swivel now every time I leave the building, every
time I'm walking out on the street and heading for
the train, and I'm constantly Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
We had a security guard escort us escort us on
Tuesday when we brought Clay to the stephen A. Smith
debate and we had to walk a few blocks. We're
in midtown Manhattan, going through Times Square, hundreds of people,
and I mean I was like the Exorcist in my head,
was spinning around so much looking at everybody we passed.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I was on record as opposing
you actually got you guys actually walking.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I mean I had my pepper spray and that was
about it. But we did have the guard. But still,
this is kind of terrifying time.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's a scary time that we happen to live in.
And that's that's been the hard part too, is just
going home and then you know, trying to decompress from
all of this stuff. How we can get by it quickly?
And I you know, I it's all I can say
is well, and I will we can continue to work
to do that. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I will say it has been really heartwarming to read
all of yours that you've been sending. In listening to
your talkbacks, our audience has been super supportive, and I
got to tell you, Clay and Buck, that's really meant
a lot to them too. That, just knowing they have
a huge audience that has their back and that supports them,
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and we stand strong and we keep speaking our minds
and speaking the truth and not being deterred to hear
from you. Thanking them that meant the world to them
in the past week. So I just want to say
thank you to our audience for doing that.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, they're always really grateful when you reach out, when
you touch base with them in any manner. And it's
been a rough it's been a rough week.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
It's been a rough week.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's been a rough week.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
A good segue right now would be to talk about
our sponsor, Chuck.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Oh, talk to me about.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, I had to lean on our friend Chad this week.
Chad as in Chad Mode from chalk dot com. Chad
Mode is a powder supplements that you just pour into
your water, mix it up. It looks like the color
of one of Buck's nice Cashmeir sweaters he wears a
lot and gives you a natural boost.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, and Buck is actually using this as I would
call daily as far as with his work out.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, he's using Chalk Daily, which is a supplement set
of other supplements. But when he was writing his book,
Chad mode was his mode. He needed that and because
it not only helps you before a workout, like actually
get through physically the workout, but it also.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Helps your mind.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So if you just need to stay sharp and focused,
and you know, you have to write a paper at
school or you have to you're at work and you
have to get through expense reports like I do later,
you can just say, okay, Chad, you and I just
for the next hour, we're going to be completely focused
on whatever project.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, that's you know, it's good with your workout, it's
good with your helping in the office, that sort of thing.
Working in. We'll call it that way. So working out,
working in, trying your Chad mode. Go to chalk dot
com choq Q.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
The Q is important because Chuck, I want to spell
it like the stuff we wrote on the sidewalk with
as kids, but it's actually c HOQ. And if you're
at the website and you see some stuff you might like,
remember to put in Clay or Buck's name and you'll
get a bit of a discount.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's right, that's right. Yeah, it's always a good thing
to get save a little money that way.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
So all right, Greg, Well, until we do another after hours, only.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
A lot less time will go between this one and
the next one.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, we'd like to take any questions you have about
what goes on behind the scenes of the show. So
this this one was kind of focused on how we
deal with breaking news, anything else you'd like to know
how we put together the show, or.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Any of the other staff, producer Mike who you know
who runs the board, or producer Mark and his hockey
if he has any any questions for him for that anything,
just just send reach out to us. Yes, go on
the iHeart app, send us a talk back and we
always get him and we always listen to him.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
So all right, until next time, Thank you, Greg.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm producer, Greg, I'm producer Alie
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