May 29, 2025 • 22 mins
Is Michelle Obama the most overrated person of our time? Author and commentator Peachy Keenan joins the show to weigh in. From Michelle’s floundering podcast to the performative nature of progressive book collections, we break down the media machine propping up the Obamas, and why fewer people are tuning in. Peachy, author of Domestic Extremist, offers insights into the culture war, elite institutions, and the illusion of influence. They also take a detour into the Ivy League and why Trump going after Harvard is just the beginning.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Is Michelle Obama the most overrated person of our lifetime?
To answer this question that the masters are clamoring for
answers too, we are joined for the first time by
Peachey Canaan. She is an author and a commentator and
author of the book Domestic Extremist, which I would highly
recommend to all of you and is in the background
for those of you watching us on Twitter. Peache, I'll
(00:41):
hand this question off to you. I'm sure you've seen
some of Michelle's podcast entry so far, and wow, yeah,
that's a.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But I would say she's probably second to her illustrious husband.
It must run in the run in their family. But yeah,
her her podcast is really funny.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I think there was. It's very obviously.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I think what happened there after the November election, all
the like you know, Pods of America bros were like,
we need podcasts, we need a better we need better
messengers Trump one because of Rogan and all these bro podcasts.
What can we do to reclaim podcasting for the Democrats,
and like, who was the first person they called Michelle
(01:25):
Obama because America is dying to hear from her, and
uh yeah, her and her weird brother who looks like
a looks like a drag queen out of his makeup,
doesn't he like they're just a very weird pair. I
don't know, no one's watching this right, Like, are you
watching this? Does anyone watching?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I see some of the clips? I will tell you.
As I was talking with this on radio, my wife,
who is always up on the latest media eyed stuff
because she used to work at Fox News. She sent
me that Michelle Obama's podcast on you know YouTube. You
can see the views it has in three or four episodes.
The audience has gone from I think a couple hundred
thousand down to it's cut in half, which is not
(02:03):
what you would expect for a former first lady, with
the entire media not only rooting for her but telling
you that she is simultaneously a saint genius and the
greatest person I know. I don't want to fight with you, Peach,
but I'll say this with Barack Obama, if you criticized him,
you were racist with uh with Michelle Obama, if you
(02:23):
criticized her, you were you were actually hitler, and that's
that's I think those were the rules, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think it's incredible hubris of these first ladies. I
think Hillary Clinton is another example of this, who think
that because their husbands won, because they had some political
flare or whatever, that they also won something like they
also were awarded best Personality of the Year or whatever
it is, and they go on to have these media
(02:52):
careers and I'm not really sure what and they're just
completely propped up by I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean, she did sell a lot of books.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Okay, she did have these big book tours and sell
million millions of books supposedly, although I would go to
Costco and there'd be a huge stack of Michelle Obama books,
you know, discounted for like four ninety nine each.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So this is so funny to me because I've thought
about this many times, because I've been in people's homes.
I mean, one of the things that you can tell
about somebody, right, well, rather, all you really need to
do to know a lot about a person is first
of all, do they have any books in their home?
And then second of all, when you look at the
books they have. Are these books that are for reading
or books that are for showing. And I think Michelle
(03:31):
Obama books are books that people have, even if it's
not a coffee table book, they have it like on
or near the coffee table, or like prominent on the
shelf because it's a you know, hey, look at me.
I think I would guess, And there's no way I've
ever known, because people people all lie about how much
they read. They certainly lie about what books they've read,
what books they read, what books they've read. Sorry, but
(03:55):
the truth to me is that Michelle Obama books, of
the people who bought them, I would guess less than
ten percent actually read the book.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
In any right, it's right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But if you have the book and someone sees it
in your house, they know you're not racist. It yeah,
it's it's right next to white fragility, you know. And
maybe like an Ebram X Kendy children's book or whatever,
and you know whatever those little he was making like
anti anti racist baby board books.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You remember, it's all this whole.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm not a racist because I have the correct media,
the correct media diet, so I'm allowed to be white.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
My favorite coffee shop. When I lived in New York
that was near me was a place called Ground Central,
and it was exactly I mean it was. You could
look at the entire this was in Manhattan. Tire staff
clearly came in from like transitioning parts of Brooklyn, right.
They were all white. They're all coming in from like
(04:54):
you know, their bedsty, you know share uh and you
know they they've stopped like pickling their own beats or
whatever for a minute to come here. Now, I will
say the coffee, the coffee was amazing. But but and
that's why I had to keep going there reading shelf
that they had. I used to take photos of this
because I was it was so immaculately curated to show
(05:14):
everybody what the people who worked in this store wanted
people to believe they're about. It was all that. It
was Ibra Mix, Kendy, Michelle Obama, Tana Hesse Coates. It
was like like not they never I never once, with
the exception of Robin DiAngelo. And I mean this, And
I got my coffee there every day. Saw on their
reading shelf which was like prominently displayed a book written
(05:35):
by a white person. Not allowed. Not not okay, No,
that's so anyway, so you buy a Michelle Obama book
and it's it's like you get it all done. You
don't even have to have the whole shelf. You just
show everybody who you are.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Actually that I think the Harvard English Literature curriculum probably
matches the Starbucks that that your coffee shops.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I'm sure recommended booklets.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah. I can't even imagine. When I went to AMers
twenty god twenty something years ago. Now it was our Yeah,
it was already insane. And I try to tell people
stories and they're like, there's no way it was that crazy.
I'm like, no, no, I promise it was just as crazy.
You know. I was gonna say Trump is Hitler, Bush
is Hitler, and like we're fascist. Flag burning after nine
(06:16):
to eleven that happened on my campus, Like yeah, it
was that was real. Oh yeah, and that was a
real thing. I was there. I mean, obviously not burning
the flags. They had cops there, classic lib thing. They
had to make sure the cops were there because they
knew that if they just did this people would punch them,
so they had the cops there to defend them. Burning
the American flag after nine to eleven because they want
to stick it to the patriarchy. I'm like, except for
(06:38):
these cops who are dudes with guns that you're begging
to protect you, let's come back. You mentioned Harvard. I
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(07:41):
All right, peachey. So Trump is going after Harvard, which
is I love and I'd say this people to do. It's
not just Harvard. I'd love it if you did it
to AMers too, and I went there. I don't care.
I think this is fantastic. Why do you think it's fantastic?
I'm guessing you at least feel that way about it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, I love it. I you know, I went to
the Ivy League.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I didn't didn't go to Harvard, but I think they
should all, you know, burn them all down at this point,
and not.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Just Cornell because if you went to Cornell, I think
I have to make fun okay, because I love I
love the Cornell people who are always like, well, I
went to the Ivy League school and it's just like
if you say that and not the name, it's usually Cornell.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm not saying I don't want to be docs. But yeah,
I did, I did. I did not go to Cornell
or Harvard.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You can use you know, keep guessing, but I don't
want to tell you. But anyway, they're all like this,
not just Harvard. The ucs here in California are like
this also with the numbers. I just wrote an article
about this at tom clin Clingenstein dot com called poisoned IVS,
which is about how, you know, the great replacement or
(08:44):
whatever has already been completed at many of these elite
institutions where large numbers of the student body is no
longer American and not even like you know, undocumented whatever
American like people here, like you know, the children of illegals,
the dreamers, not even them.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
People who literally arrive in this.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Country for the first day of school can kind of
barely speak English from you know, the Chinese mainland and
the Gulf States. And you know, rich, rich people from
around the world are coming into these schools and what
is it a thirty percent including grad school at Harvard,
and I think similarly at UCLA, Okay, and like in
(09:25):
terms of UCLA, like the state schools, these are schools
that we pay for, like Californians pay.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
For these schools.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We fund these state schools UCLA, Berkeley, u SE, San Diego.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
These are schools.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Built your tax dollars from your property taxes, your income
taxes in California, which are insane. Is the reason that
UCLA et cetera exists.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Right, we pay for them to educate California kids.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
That's the goal of these schools, just like the University
of Texas is for largely kids in Texas. Right, these
state schools should be educating majority of the kids in California.
And then there's out of state kids too who go like, yes,
from another state, you should be Yes, you're allowed in
to U. See you pay higher way higher tuition.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I want to put a few international kids who are
like some kind of spectacular nerds or whatever, you know,
super nerds, you know, into MIT whatever. Great, But in
these huge numbers, what it's done is made these schools
just honestly so difficult to get into. On top of
just the regular American you know, DEI affirmative action.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Filters like you have all of this.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So if you're just like, let's say, a very high achieving,
you know, straight white kid who isn't gay or trans
or queer or whatever and has a very high GPA
and does great on the SATs and stuff. He's he's
only got no shot unless he's a superstar varsity athlete
or has some other extraordinary you know, capability in him.
(10:55):
There's just no shot. Ucla was my safety school, Okay.
When I went to college, Ucla was like beneath me,
Like I was like I would never have been caught dead.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like, let's just like now it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Had because it had like a fifty sixty seventy percent acceptance, right,
you know, I wanted to go to like a fancy
private school on the East coast. Now Ucla is eight
percent acceptance, Okay, eight percent, that's insane to me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, and then all the.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Spots, So how many spots are actually in each freshman
class for kids like kids like my son California, you know,
can't check any diversity boxes high achieving, Like how many
spots in that class go to kids like that?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like one hundred spots? Like very small.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They're just being taken up by so many of these
foreign students who are paying, yes, full price, and so
seeing it happen at Harvard is thrilling. And they and Meanwhile,
half of them are what Chinese CCP spies.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, this is the other. So there's many I break
this down Peach into there's the America first component of this,
which I think that is very apt for this aspect
of it in California couldn't be any more clear. I
mean state schools. You're educating foreign kids in our state
schools in huge numbers, right, you know, you want to
talk about like diversity. I'm a little bit okay with
(12:13):
the idea of a small percentage of the student body
comes from other countries, because that is kind of interesting.
But I want it to be I want it to
be five percent, maybe ten percent, max max Mit thirty percent.
You Penn thirty percent, Harvard thirty foreign kids. I think
(12:33):
Colombia is more like fifty percent. I mean these.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Schools, Columbia is really weird.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, Columbia is super high. These schools are just full
of kids from all over the world. And by the way,
this whole notion of like, oh well, like we're taking
the best of the best, full crap. They can't based
on what and this this idea that we shouldn't advantage.
So there's the America first component. You wou'd agree on.
But what you touched on about this as well is
(12:59):
the CCP. I mean you look at MIT, you look
at where the government funding is in some of these
schools particuarly the schools you actually have to be able
to do something to go, which is kind of to
their credit, right, Like you don't go to cal Tech
because daddy donated the you know, the the lounge room
for the crew team, right, Like, if you go to
cal Tech, my chances are you can do some math.
I would assume uh same thing with MIT, Like if
(13:21):
you go to these places, there's a there's a skill
set that but they also do things like figure out
how to do missile technology and they also work on
drones at the university technology centers are infiltrated by the
CCP and other places all the time. We're supposed to
think that they're really good at keeping the stuff out
(13:42):
of the hands of foreign students. But why is the
CCP so obsessed with sending their kids here?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, I think it's obvious what's happening.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
They're exploiting all these loopholes, and their children are these
you know, rich the rich children of you know, the
Chinese elite. But when they come here, they're just another
diversity quota bucks that they've be able to check off. Oh,
a student of Asian descent, a foreign student, and so
that makes the school feel good, would look good. Look
(14:10):
at our numbers they love to put in the brochure,
over fifty percent you know, minority whatever students. These children
are not minorities in China.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No Chinese person is a minority, like in the world,
like China, Chinese are like what a third of the world, Like,
they're not minorities.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Okay, yeah, they're Chinese are the least minority people on
a global scale in existence.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So right, they don't.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Need our schools like, they do not need our schools.
They have plenty of schools. Why are they so interested
in sending it here? Is it for the prestige of Harvard? Okay,
they can go and brag if their kid is at
the American university? Is it so their children can then
have anchor babies and they can all then now the
whole family gets a passport.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
This is what I tell access to the United States.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay, well you see that is it the California And
I've been using this argument for years because of people.
It's always like what about the dreamers, and like you know, uh,
you know a little so and so just came across
the border. He's going to start the next school. I'm like, okay,
what is on the birthright citizenship issue? A whole? On
a second and Californi they have hotels. I know you
know this, but for the audience, they have hotels. We're Chinese,
(15:15):
and it's overwhelmingly Chinese who do this. Chinese show up,
give birth, go back to China, and then come back
when they're eighteen with a US passport in hand, go
to UCLA or USC or whatever with their with their
American citizenship, even though they are fully Chinese, and then
they sponsor their whole family to come over here, and.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We're yeah, and they pay and they pay in state
tuition yeah yeah, fourteen thousand a year versus like forty
out of state or foreign. So it's a complete scam.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeat.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
In Orange County, they have these houses and they're just
Chinese anchor baby mills, and they'll be a home filled
with like fifteen or twenty Chinese women and they come
here pregnant, they deliver, and then go back and they
even have like a there's even a surrogacy industry where
Chinese couple in China will ship their frozen and to
(16:11):
a surrogate in one of these homes to have their child,
and then the child has flown back to China for them,
like they never even have to come here.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I hadn't even heard of it. And that is that, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That's that is Orange County these and I mean in
the area around like Irvine, California, which is like heavily Asian.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And in fact, do you see Irvine. I mean I
have friends there.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's they their reports are like this is just a
completely one basically Chinese nat Nationalists national school. It's like
the University of China in Irvine. I mean, you know
you'd think, okay, we're here. Really if if it's going
to be any other country, it should be Mexico, like
make it the University of Mexico. But the Chinese have
(16:54):
gained the system. They're very it's smart, Like we left
these giant holes and they're just coming through in in
trucks loaded with with their kids and we're letting and
we're paying for it, like we're paying to educate their children.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
My son did not get into.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Ucl there we go. Yeah, I mean, look at what
happened to Aunt Becky from Full House, you know, ended
up doing prison time because I'm a huge am Becky
fan as a kid, just trying to get you know,
little Skylar Taylor or whatever her daughter's name is into USC.
So USC, I think it was USC. Yeah, yeah, yeah, USC,
(17:35):
and like pretended she can row crew, which that girl,
I mean maybe she could have been a Coxon, but
like she was not.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You know, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I know I dated a crew girl. I know crew girls.
Let me tell you that girl is not a crew girl.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Like they yeah, they'll yeah, they'll bench you.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
They will bench you. Yeah, you gotta be into that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So the funny thing about sorry, but the funniest thing
about USC is that again you have this hyper competitive
environment around University of Southern California, which is like u
c LA now has an acceptance rate of literally like
eight or seven percent, which you know, when I was
(18:12):
going to school, those were like unheard of number that
was like cal Tech numbers like eight percent. But when
I was when I was applying, USC had like forty
percent acceptance like UCLA.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
These were not super competitive schools. To get into these schools.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
What I've had to tell to all the my dad's generation,
my dad was a Wall Street guy. Uh, my dad's
generation of finance bros. Because they're just like, oh, like
when I came out, you know, my dad went to
Harvard Busy school. He's like, when I came out of school,
I had offers from every bank on the street, and
like we were having two Martini lunuries and like everything's
great because you weren't competing against Mumbai and Shanghai. My man, Like,
(18:49):
there's a different world out there now, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
We're we're made to compete. Our kids are made to
compete with kids from other countries. Like before they've even
got out of high school, they're competing with the children
of the ritually yes, in India and China and all
around the world. And then they're competing with those kids
again for jobs, and they're with those kids throughout their life.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And diversity system is is it's a national resource. And
you'll notice that with very few exceptions, like yeah, Oxford,
you know, some people, if they want to be like
really kind of euro fancy, you'll be like I'm going
through like seance po or whatever. Right, they'll go to.
Very few Americans go to overseas universities. I mean it's
a it's like a less than one percent number, Like
(19:32):
people just don't do this. But yet in our country,
it's the biggest countries in the world, and countries from
all over the world are just I'm so glad Trump
is on this, and I think it's a big deal.
I don't think it's a small thing. I think it
goes to US competitiveness and everything else. Can I just
one more thought for you. Did you see that the
Harvard Business School professor who is paid a million dollars
(19:52):
a year was an expert in honesty and was fired
by Harvard for dishonesty. That just happened.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That's so perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It's like my favorite Harvard story ever. I'm like, this
overpaid phony whose expertise is dishonesty or honesty or whatever,
and she's fired for faking results in the studies that
prove her expertise. And this is this is all Claudine Gay,
who was the former Harvard president. This person she's the
president of Harvard, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I mean, she's yeah, she was fired, but she wasn't
actually fired. She was like, just he just switched job
getting close to a million a year.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They basically in the CIA, we call
it getting sent to the archives, Like they don't want
to fire you, but they send you somewhere where you
can't do any damage, you know, and you keep getting
your day deck. So she got sent to the archives.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, so Harvard's off the list.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
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Is Michelle Obama the most overrated person of our lifetime?
To answer this question that the masters are clamoring for
answers too, we are joined for the first time by
Peachey Canaan. She is an author and a commentator and
author of the book Domestic Extremist, which I would highly
recommend to all of you and is in the background
for those of you watching us on Twitter. Peache, I'll
(00:41):
hand this question off to you. I'm sure you've seen
some of Michelle's podcast entry so far, and wow, yeah,
that's a.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
But I would say she's probably second to her illustrious husband.
It must run in the run in their family. But yeah,
her her podcast is really funny.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I think there was. It's very obviously.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I think what happened there after the November election, all
the like you know, Pods of America bros were like,
we need podcasts, we need a better we need better
messengers Trump one because of Rogan and all these bro podcasts.
What can we do to reclaim podcasting for the Democrats,
and like, who was the first person they called Michelle
(01:25):
Obama because America is dying to hear from her, and
uh yeah, her and her weird brother who looks like
a looks like a drag queen out of his makeup,
doesn't he like they're just a very weird pair. I
don't know, no one's watching this right, Like, are you
watching this? Does anyone watching?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I see some of the clips? I will tell you.
As I was talking with this on radio, my wife,
who is always up on the latest media eyed stuff
because she used to work at Fox News. She sent
me that Michelle Obama's podcast on you know YouTube. You
can see the views it has in three or four episodes.
The audience has gone from I think a couple hundred
thousand down to it's cut in half, which is not
(02:03):
what you would expect for a former first lady, with
the entire media not only rooting for her but telling
you that she is simultaneously a saint genius and the
greatest person I know. I don't want to fight with you, Peach,
but I'll say this with Barack Obama, if you criticized him,
you were racist with uh with Michelle Obama, if you
(02:23):
criticized her, you were you were actually hitler, and that's
that's I think those were the rules, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think it's incredible hubris of these first ladies. I
think Hillary Clinton is another example of this, who think
that because their husbands won, because they had some political
flare or whatever, that they also won something like they
also were awarded best Personality of the Year or whatever
it is, and they go on to have these media
(02:52):
careers and I'm not really sure what and they're just
completely propped up by I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I mean, she did sell a lot of books.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Okay, she did have these big book tours and sell
million millions of books supposedly, although I would go to
Costco and there'd be a huge stack of Michelle Obama books,
you know, discounted for like four ninety nine each.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So this is so funny to me because I've thought
about this many times, because I've been in people's homes.
I mean, one of the things that you can tell
about somebody, right, well, rather, all you really need to
do to know a lot about a person is first
of all, do they have any books in their home?
And then second of all, when you look at the
books they have. Are these books that are for reading
or books that are for showing. And I think Michelle
(03:31):
Obama books are books that people have, even if it's
not a coffee table book, they have it like on
or near the coffee table, or like prominent on the
shelf because it's a you know, hey, look at me.
I think I would guess, And there's no way I've
ever known, because people people all lie about how much
they read. They certainly lie about what books they've read,
what books they read, what books they've read. Sorry, but
(03:55):
the truth to me is that Michelle Obama books, of
the people who bought them, I would guess less than
ten percent actually read the book.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
In any right, it's right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But if you have the book and someone sees it
in your house, they know you're not racist. It yeah,
it's it's right next to white fragility, you know. And
maybe like an Ebram X Kendy children's book or whatever,
and you know whatever those little he was making like
anti anti racist baby board books.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You remember, it's all this whole.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I'm not a racist because I have the correct media,
the correct media diet, so I'm allowed to be white.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
My favorite coffee shop. When I lived in New York
that was near me was a place called Ground Central,
and it was exactly I mean it was. You could
look at the entire this was in Manhattan. Tire staff
clearly came in from like transitioning parts of Brooklyn, right.
They were all white. They're all coming in from like
(04:54):
you know, their bedsty, you know share uh and you
know they they've stopped like pickling their own beats or
whatever for a minute to come here. Now, I will
say the coffee, the coffee was amazing. But but and
that's why I had to keep going there reading shelf
that they had. I used to take photos of this
because I was it was so immaculately curated to show
(05:14):
everybody what the people who worked in this store wanted
people to believe they're about. It was all that. It
was Ibra Mix, Kendy, Michelle Obama, Tana Hesse Coates. It
was like like not they never I never once, with
the exception of Robin DiAngelo. And I mean this, And
I got my coffee there every day. Saw on their
reading shelf which was like prominently displayed a book written
(05:35):
by a white person. Not allowed. Not not okay, No,
that's so anyway, so you buy a Michelle Obama book
and it's it's like you get it all done. You
don't even have to have the whole shelf. You just
show everybody who you are.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Actually that I think the Harvard English Literature curriculum probably
matches the Starbucks that that your coffee shops.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I'm sure recommended booklets.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah. I can't even imagine. When I went to AMers
twenty god twenty something years ago. Now it was our Yeah,
it was already insane. And I try to tell people
stories and they're like, there's no way it was that crazy.
I'm like, no, no, I promise it was just as crazy.
You know. I was gonna say Trump is Hitler, Bush
is Hitler, and like we're fascist. Flag burning after nine
(06:16):
to eleven that happened on my campus, Like yeah, it
was that was real. Oh yeah, and that was a
real thing. I was there. I mean, obviously not burning
the flags. They had cops there, classic lib thing. They
had to make sure the cops were there because they
knew that if they just did this people would punch them,
so they had the cops there to defend them. Burning
the American flag after nine to eleven because they want
to stick it to the patriarchy. I'm like, except for
(06:38):
these cops who are dudes with guns that you're begging
to protect you, let's come back. You mentioned Harvard. I
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All right, peachey. So Trump is going after Harvard, which
is I love and I'd say this people to do. It's
not just Harvard. I'd love it if you did it
to AMers too, and I went there. I don't care.
I think this is fantastic. Why do you think it's fantastic?
I'm guessing you at least feel that way about it.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, I love it. I you know, I went to
the Ivy League.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I didn't didn't go to Harvard, but I think they
should all, you know, burn them all down at this point,
and not.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Just Cornell because if you went to Cornell, I think
I have to make fun okay, because I love I
love the Cornell people who are always like, well, I
went to the Ivy League school and it's just like
if you say that and not the name, it's usually Cornell.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm not saying I don't want to be docs. But yeah,
I did, I did. I did not go to Cornell
or Harvard.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
You can use you know, keep guessing, but I don't
want to tell you. But anyway, they're all like this,
not just Harvard. The ucs here in California are like
this also with the numbers. I just wrote an article
about this at tom clin Clingenstein dot com called poisoned IVS,
which is about how, you know, the great replacement or
(08:44):
whatever has already been completed at many of these elite
institutions where large numbers of the student body is no
longer American and not even like you know, undocumented whatever
American like people here, like you know, the children of illegals,
the dreamers, not even them.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
People who literally arrive in this.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Country for the first day of school can kind of
barely speak English from you know, the Chinese mainland and
the Gulf States. And you know, rich, rich people from
around the world are coming into these schools and what
is it a thirty percent including grad school at Harvard,
and I think similarly at UCLA, Okay, and like in
(09:25):
terms of UCLA, like the state schools, these are schools
that we pay for, like Californians pay.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
For these schools.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We fund these state schools UCLA, Berkeley, u SE, San Diego.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
These are schools.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Built your tax dollars from your property taxes, your income
taxes in California, which are insane. Is the reason that
UCLA et cetera exists.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Right, we pay for them to educate California kids.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
That's the goal of these schools, just like the University
of Texas is for largely kids in Texas. Right, these
state schools should be educating majority of the kids in California.
And then there's out of state kids too who go like, yes,
from another state, you should be Yes, you're allowed in
to U. See you pay higher way higher tuition.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Fine.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I want to put a few international kids who are
like some kind of spectacular nerds or whatever, you know,
super nerds, you know, into MIT whatever. Great, But in
these huge numbers, what it's done is made these schools
just honestly so difficult to get into. On top of
just the regular American you know, DEI affirmative action.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Filters like you have all of this.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So if you're just like, let's say, a very high achieving,
you know, straight white kid who isn't gay or trans
or queer or whatever and has a very high GPA
and does great on the SATs and stuff. He's he's
only got no shot unless he's a superstar varsity athlete
or has some other extraordinary you know, capability in him.
(10:55):
There's just no shot. Ucla was my safety school, Okay.
When I went to college, Ucla was like beneath me,
Like I was like I would never have been caught dead.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like, let's just like now it.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Had because it had like a fifty sixty seventy percent acceptance, right,
you know, I wanted to go to like a fancy
private school on the East coast. Now Ucla is eight
percent acceptance, Okay, eight percent, that's insane to me.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, and then all the.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Spots, So how many spots are actually in each freshman
class for kids like kids like my son California, you know,
can't check any diversity boxes high achieving, Like how many
spots in that class go to kids like that?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Like one hundred spots? Like very small.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They're just being taken up by so many of these
foreign students who are paying, yes, full price, and so
seeing it happen at Harvard is thrilling. And they and Meanwhile,
half of them are what Chinese CCP spies.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, this is the other. So there's many I break
this down Peach into there's the America first component of this,
which I think that is very apt for this aspect
of it in California couldn't be any more clear. I
mean state schools. You're educating foreign kids in our state
schools in huge numbers, right, you know, you want to
talk about like diversity. I'm a little bit okay with
(12:13):
the idea of a small percentage of the student body
comes from other countries, because that is kind of interesting.
But I want it to be I want it to
be five percent, maybe ten percent, max max Mit thirty percent.
You Penn thirty percent, Harvard thirty foreign kids. I think
(12:33):
Colombia is more like fifty percent. I mean these.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Schools, Columbia is really weird.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, Columbia is super high. These schools are just full
of kids from all over the world. And by the way,
this whole notion of like, oh well, like we're taking
the best of the best, full crap. They can't based
on what and this this idea that we shouldn't advantage.
So there's the America first component. You wou'd agree on.
But what you touched on about this as well is
(12:59):
the CCP. I mean you look at MIT, you look
at where the government funding is in some of these
schools particuarly the schools you actually have to be able
to do something to go, which is kind of to
their credit, right, Like you don't go to cal Tech
because daddy donated the you know, the the lounge room
for the crew team, right, Like, if you go to
cal Tech, my chances are you can do some math.
I would assume uh same thing with MIT, Like if
(13:21):
you go to these places, there's a there's a skill
set that but they also do things like figure out
how to do missile technology and they also work on
drones at the university technology centers are infiltrated by the
CCP and other places all the time. We're supposed to
think that they're really good at keeping the stuff out
(13:42):
of the hands of foreign students. But why is the
CCP so obsessed with sending their kids here?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, I think it's obvious what's happening.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
They're exploiting all these loopholes, and their children are these
you know, rich the rich children of you know, the
Chinese elite. But when they come here, they're just another
diversity quota bucks that they've be able to check off. Oh,
a student of Asian descent, a foreign student, and so
that makes the school feel good, would look good. Look
(14:10):
at our numbers they love to put in the brochure,
over fifty percent you know, minority whatever students. These children
are not minorities in China.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
No Chinese person is a minority, like in the world,
like China, Chinese are like what a third of the world, Like,
they're not minorities.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Okay, yeah, they're Chinese are the least minority people on
a global scale in existence.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So right, they don't.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Need our schools like, they do not need our schools.
They have plenty of schools. Why are they so interested
in sending it here? Is it for the prestige of Harvard? Okay,
they can go and brag if their kid is at
the American university? Is it so their children can then
have anchor babies and they can all then now the
whole family gets a passport.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
This is what I tell access to the United States.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay, well you see that is it the California And
I've been using this argument for years because of people.
It's always like what about the dreamers, and like you know, uh,
you know a little so and so just came across
the border. He's going to start the next school. I'm like, okay,
what is on the birthright citizenship issue? A whole? On
a second and Californi they have hotels. I know you
know this, but for the audience, they have hotels. We're Chinese,
(15:15):
and it's overwhelmingly Chinese who do this. Chinese show up,
give birth, go back to China, and then come back
when they're eighteen with a US passport in hand, go
to UCLA or USC or whatever with their with their
American citizenship, even though they are fully Chinese, and then
they sponsor their whole family to come over here, and.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We're yeah, and they pay and they pay in state
tuition yeah yeah, fourteen thousand a year versus like forty
out of state or foreign. So it's a complete scam.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeat.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
In Orange County, they have these houses and they're just
Chinese anchor baby mills, and they'll be a home filled
with like fifteen or twenty Chinese women and they come
here pregnant, they deliver, and then go back and they
even have like a there's even a surrogacy industry where
Chinese couple in China will ship their frozen and to
(16:11):
a surrogate in one of these homes to have their child,
and then the child has flown back to China for them,
like they never even have to come here.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I hadn't even heard of it. And that is that, yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That's that is Orange County these and I mean in
the area around like Irvine, California, which is like heavily Asian.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
And in fact, do you see Irvine. I mean I
have friends there.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
It's they their reports are like this is just a
completely one basically Chinese nat Nationalists national school. It's like
the University of China in Irvine. I mean, you know
you'd think, okay, we're here. Really if if it's going
to be any other country, it should be Mexico, like
make it the University of Mexico. But the Chinese have
(16:54):
gained the system. They're very it's smart, Like we left
these giant holes and they're just coming through in in
trucks loaded with with their kids and we're letting and
we're paying for it, like we're paying to educate their children.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
My son did not get into.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Ucl there we go. Yeah, I mean, look at what
happened to Aunt Becky from Full House, you know, ended
up doing prison time because I'm a huge am Becky
fan as a kid, just trying to get you know,
little Skylar Taylor or whatever her daughter's name is into USC.
So USC, I think it was USC. Yeah, yeah, yeah, USC,
(17:35):
and like pretended she can row crew, which that girl,
I mean maybe she could have been a Coxon, but
like she was not.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You know, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I know I dated a crew girl. I know crew girls.
Let me tell you that girl is not a crew girl.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Like they yeah, they'll yeah, they'll bench you.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
They will bench you. Yeah, you gotta be into that
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So the funny thing about sorry, but the funniest thing
about USC is that again you have this hyper competitive
environment around University of Southern California, which is like u
c LA now has an acceptance rate of literally like
eight or seven percent, which you know, when I was
(18:12):
going to school, those were like unheard of number that
was like cal Tech numbers like eight percent. But when
I was when I was applying, USC had like forty
percent acceptance like UCLA.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
These were not super competitive schools. To get into these schools.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
What I've had to tell to all the my dad's generation,
my dad was a Wall Street guy. Uh, my dad's
generation of finance bros. Because they're just like, oh, like
when I came out, you know, my dad went to
Harvard Busy school. He's like, when I came out of school,
I had offers from every bank on the street, and
like we were having two Martini lunuries and like everything's
great because you weren't competing against Mumbai and Shanghai. My man, Like,
(18:49):
there's a different world out there now, that's right.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
We're we're made to compete. Our kids are made to
compete with kids from other countries. Like before they've even
got out of high school, they're competing with the children
of the ritually yes, in India and China and all
around the world. And then they're competing with those kids
again for jobs, and they're with those kids throughout their life.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And diversity system is is it's a national resource. And
you'll notice that with very few exceptions, like yeah, Oxford,
you know, some people, if they want to be like
really kind of euro fancy, you'll be like I'm going
through like seance po or whatever. Right, they'll go to.
Very few Americans go to overseas universities. I mean it's
a it's like a less than one percent number, Like
(19:32):
people just don't do this. But yet in our country,
it's the biggest countries in the world, and countries from
all over the world are just I'm so glad Trump
is on this, and I think it's a big deal.
I don't think it's a small thing. I think it
goes to US competitiveness and everything else. Can I just
one more thought for you. Did you see that the
Harvard Business School professor who is paid a million dollars
(19:52):
a year was an expert in honesty and was fired
by Harvard for dishonesty. That just happened.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That's so perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It's like my favorite Harvard story ever. I'm like, this
overpaid phony whose expertise is dishonesty or honesty or whatever,
and she's fired for faking results in the studies that
prove her expertise. And this is this is all Claudine Gay,
who was the former Harvard president. This person she's the
president of Harvard, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I mean, she's yeah, she was fired, but she wasn't
actually fired. She was like, just he just switched job
getting close to a million a year.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They basically in the CIA, we call
it getting sent to the archives, Like they don't want
to fire you, but they send you somewhere where you
can't do any damage, you know, and you keep getting
your day deck. So she got sent to the archives.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, so Harvard's off the list.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
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