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December 11, 2025 15 mins

Australia just banned kids under 16 from using social media, and the debate is heating up fast in the U.S. Buck speaks with New York Post correspondent Lydia Moynihan about what this move means, why parents are paying attention, and whether similar regulations could work in America. They break down online safety, tech industry incentives, childhood development, bullying, and the growing push for age-verification laws. Plus, a conversation on masculinity in politics, shifting gender dynamics, and how culture is shaping young voters.

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Fuck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. So, Australia has banned kids
under sixteen from social media. Parents all over America are
looking at this saying, maybe we should do this here,
or maybe not. Lydia moynihan joins us now she's a
New York Post correspondent. Lydia dive into this situation because

(00:36):
number one story on Fox News Today's I'm Speaking to
You like the banner. The headline story is Australia's social
media ban because parents are fired up.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Australia has poisonous spiders, they have too many sharks. I
think in that regard it's a difficult place to live.
But when it comes to the social media ban, I
think they got this one hundred percent right, and I
think this is actually one government interference, one government rule
that is actually very beneficial for society. Because tech companies
are making so much money off children, they have no

(01:08):
incentive to say, oh, you should probably have your children
be on their cell phone and on the internet less.
It's interesting there was a couple years ago this big
documentary that came out, and a lot of people in
tech were saying, oh, yeah, with my own kids, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Not going to let them on social media. I'm not
going to give them a phone.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
But these companies are worth sometimes trillion plus dollars. They're
not going to want to rain in kids being on
their phones on the apps. And for parents, it's really
tough because you don't want to be that one parent
who feels like every other child is allowed on social
media except for yours. You don't want your child to
be developmentally delayed because of that. And so I think

(01:47):
this kind of sets a tone that is ultimately going
to be so much more beneficial from society. I mean
kind of as an adult, I actually wish there was
a law that, like, I could only spend so much
time on my phone. I think that would be good
for me. Most of us don't have the discipline. Kids
definitely do not. Their brains aren't even fully developed. So
the idea that the government would get involved and set

(02:07):
the tone, and bear in mind too, this isn't this
isn't a draconian law, like they're not going to arrest
people if they're not, you know, abiding by this law.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
You can kind of get around it. But what I
think it.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Does do is sort of set a new societal norm
that children should be running around outside and drawing and
writing in their diary and doing whatever kids do, not
getting addicted to something that's like, frankly, almost as addictive
as opium or cocaine or any other drug.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Why. I just I think it's I think it makes
a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's interesting because I came up against a little bit
of the government regulation, like people shout these things to
which I have to sometimes because I am of the
point of view that this makes a lot of sense.
I also think that what you've seen in some states
like Tennessee where they have the eighteen verification now for
being able to view adult material, and how that they've

(03:03):
been able to implement that, and sure enough it has
changed some of the Internet habits going on to the
state of Tennessee. I think. For another, I think in
part because you have kids that aren't being able to
access this, which is good, but also adults are like
I don't think I want to put my driver's license
on some database of hey, I look at porn. So
that's changing behaviors really fast. But there are all these

(03:28):
areas of the law where particularly for minors, for people
who are not yet legally adults, the state steps in
and tries to protect them. And you see this on
the social media stuff on safety issues alone, so many
of these of these online predators and these extortion gangs

(03:48):
that operate even overseas targeting kids. Here, all this stuff
going on, I think there need to be special protections
in place. I don't think this is excessive regulation. I
think it's necessary regulation.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
No, I mean we regulate all kinds of things for
kids because have to go to school, kids have to well,
they can't drink, they can't vote, they can't drive until
a certain age. Like to me, this is probably one
example of sort of like meeting a nanny state, because
again I think a lot of parents have just abdicated
responsibility or just again can't withstand the pressure of their kids.

(04:19):
And also I'll note you know a lot of kids,
even if their parents have said, oh I don't want
you on this app or that app, or try and
limit your time, kids are smart, they can get around
it right now. So again, having one more layer where
children aren't is addicted to these apps, I think is
really good and I also just I don't know, I
feel for kids who are growing up in this day

(04:41):
and age because there's.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So much more bullying, there's so much more pressure.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
And I think if this can in some way create
a little bit more of a childhood for some kids,
how wonderful is that?

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah? I mean, do you have kids you have come
up against this at all? Well?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I have an eight month old, so we're still trying
to get him to be able to, you know, hold
the sippy cup. So he's not yet using social media,
but he he is going to be. You know, my
co host or Radio Clay, he has three boys who
were all basically late you know, early or late stage teenagers,
and he didn't let them have phones until there are fourteen,

(05:20):
like you know, smartphones. I think that is is sound
policy and or you know, sound policy for parents. I
think that's good decision making. I do think that can
be left to parents, but I think that that's good
decision making. And on this one, I just think that
until you understand the way that people get habituated to
this social media and the risks that kids run. Also,

(05:41):
even just you mentioned bullying of the thing that peers,
peers will say and do and people can say really
dumb things online and then it's kind of just out
there for everybody, and they might get in trouble at school.
There's a lot of reasons why I am very grateful.
I am a bunch older than you, so I don't
even know if you have any of do what I'm
talking about. But there was a time when the only

(06:04):
thing you had to be worried about at like a
party when you were in college was if somebody had
one of those cameras that you had to uh had
a little fay twisted, like the little twisted or the
little like yeah, the little little polo.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Come back now, by the.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Way, No, but it's the uh. They were like disposable
cameras that was ever. It had these disposable cameras with
a little wheel and like you would hear it if
someone pulled one of those out of it was like whoa, okay,
like time to you know, time to behave But anyway,
I think that this is it.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I one more thing to add, yeah, because I feel
I feel very grateful that, Like I was kind of
growing up as social media was out and about, but
my parents were really strict and of course the time
it was really obnoxious and they wouldn't let me upload
a profile photo or whatever. And it turns out they
were like right about all of this. But one other
point that I'll make as well as in New York,
actually in LA and like, some of these very high

(06:56):
end private clubs actually have really strict policies about using
your phone. You get a little sticker placed on your
phone's camera.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
And I think it's because people.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Realize, like they they miss the sort of elements of like,
how having interaction with people before we were living in
this iPhone world where everyone's on social media and capturing photos,
and so I think people like really want privacy, and
in the case of these private clubs, will pay a
lot of money to have it.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
So it's just very interesting how we're so nostalgic for that.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And again, I just I feel so bad for these kids,
Like I don't have discipline right now as an adult.
No way that you can like set decent habits and
monitor yourself when you're twelve.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I mean that's just absolute.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Exactly do you feel do you feel judged when your
phone tells you how much screen time you've had that week?
Because I think I set I think I turned that off.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I The hard problem is that you know, in news,
you kind of always have to be abreast of what's
going on, and some of that is on X. So
I have this really bad habit where I justify being
on X as working, which is a little debatable, but yeah,

(08:09):
that's where most of ice fream time comes from.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
But it is. Yeah, I feel shamed by Apple, which
I should feel for shate.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I have to explain to my wife and sometimes brothers,
my friends, when I'm on my phone it's work. Of course,
it's work. It's always work when I'm on the phone,
not always, but sometimes.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
So it's got to retweet this right now.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
You gotta get on the gotta get on the I
still call it Twitter. I'm never gonna X I know
I can. I still feel like Twitter is. It's always
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All right Lydia, I'm sure you have seen Tim Walls
on the Gavin Newsom podcast when he claims that we
Republicans are scared of his tremendous masculinity. What's your take
on this?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
The clip is honestly hilarious because even Gavin Newsom, who's
not exactly a paragon of masculinity, starts laughing and tim
Olds has to be like, no, I'm.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Serious, you're not taking me seriously.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's shocked that Gavin Newsom doesn't actually buy into him
on this, And this is why I think during the
election it falls so flat when he was trying to
like cosplay is this sort of masculine Midwestern guy, because
people were like, okay, you like you have a photo
with a gun, Like it doesn't seem like you really
know what you're doing. Like, yes, I see that you're

(10:26):
wearing camouflage, but like it just it doesn't I don't know.
I don't know what it is about him, but like
I feel like we could find out in a few
years ago that like he maybe isn't straight. I don't know,
I just got that vibe.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
I don't know his his usage of jazz of jazz
hands a lot on the campaign trail, which I think
is you know, he was very he would sort of
do a little bit of fabulousness. Uh, this guy, mister
Tim Walls, but he still claims.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
With crime on Broadway, Like, let's be real, he.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Still clings to this notion that we are in fact
terrified of his masculinity. But I do think that there's
a broader problem here. Tell me speak to it from
this perspective. Do you live You live in New York, right?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I live in Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So do you come across any guys are who are
you know in your age range who are claiming to
be male feminists? Like, does anyone actually adhere to this
stuff anymore? Do they try to play this game? It
just feels like the Democrat orthodoxy on gender roles and
how guys are supposed to act in particular has just

(11:33):
been rejected by the culture.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, I think there is this huge split right
now with gender between women are increasingly super far left,
like eighty four percent of young women in New York
voted for Momdanie, and men are increasingly a little bit
more conservative.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I think because they they're like this is insanity.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
They reject a lot of the leptism, And I think
the Democrats have been desperately trying to reach young men
right like they spent millions of dollars to study and
understand what young men wanted, and of course there's no
recognition like that their ideology and that there wokeism and
identity politics is ultimately like doesn't allow for men to

(12:13):
be men and men to be masculine.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
So that's ultimately the big issue. But they can't address.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
That elephant in the room because it would kind of
undermine their whole political ideology. But yeah, I think I
think a lot of people are afraid to say common
sense on the left and so they just kind of
shut up. And it's interesting you don't see a lot
of really masculine liberal men.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yes, well, it's very hard to be a masculine liberal
man if you're going to say things like I think, dude,
you will play against women in sports, that's totally normal. Like,
no guy of average or above testosterone levels for his
age range is going to say, you know, what's totally
fair a two hundred pound guy on the girls lacrosse
team in college, Like that's not good. That's a hard

(12:59):
thing to sell.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I actually, because I've been thinking a lot about
how young women and how so many young women in
my peer group and some of my friends are just
have gone so far are left, And I'm like, how
do we reach these young women to help them understand, like,
socialism is it not the answer. Defunding the police is
not the answer. And a lot of the people they
speak with are like, the way we get young women
to be a bit more moderate is we get young

(13:23):
men to get out there, right, And oftentimes once women
get married, they tend to be more conservative. And so
I think it's been a big issue that a lot
of men just have stayed home, have stayed in the basement,
aren't super motivated, and so I think we need to
push men to get out there, encourage that, and I
think that's going to sort of moderate young women who

(13:44):
are attracted to masculine men. By the way, this is like,
doesn't matter how liberal you are, you still want a
guy who's a real guy.

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Before we close us out here, where can people go
to follow your work? And what's the next thing you're
going to be diving deep into?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well when they are on their phones when the government
allows them. No, I'm just kidding. I'm I'm most active
on Twitter or x two active actually at LJ Mooynihan,
I'm on Instagram. Monyhand Lydia and I have collumn every
single week in the New York Post. I write a
lot about tech, AI do a lot of interviews as well,
and intersection of business and politics. So the next column

(15:12):
drops Friday. I have some commentary and interview with Don Junior,
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Speaker 3 (15:17):
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but there's a lot more.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I am an investor with them, so I am familiar
with oh what not a big one, but I'm an
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Speaker 2 (15:30):
Well, maybe they'll sponsor our next podcast.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
There we go, There we go. We'll give give Omeed
and Don Junior my regards. Good to see you, Lydia.
Thanks for making the time.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Good to see you such a pleasure.

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