July 17, 2025 • 15 mins
Conservative commentator, veteran, and author Kurt Schlichter joins Buck to talk law, Biden’s mental state, and the explosive implications of key figures pleading the Fifth. As a lawyer, Kurt weighs in on whether we’re witnessing a criminal cover-up or just more political theater. They also dive into the swirling Epstein conspiracies and why a special counsel may be the worst move possible. Plus, a deep dive into Kurt’s upcoming book American Apocalypse, a no-holds-barred look at what happens when political chaos turns deadly.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody. Kurt Schlichter back in the mix.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Author, columnists, thinker, conservative commentator, veteran lawyer. He's got a
lot of titles, including the title of his new book,
American Apocalypse, which is available for pre order right now,
So get those pre orders going. Is a fiction book.
We'll talk about the book in a second. Let's first
talk about this, mister Kurk.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So we got people.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You're a lawyer, so that comes in handy here. People
are pleading the Fifth when asked about Biden's mental state
and the possibility of conspiracy to keep that from the
American people. What do you make of it?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, I know why they're doing it, and they may
be allowed to do it if there's a crime involved,
and there may be a crime. You know, the Fifth
Amendment applies to it when when we use it, it's
often to avoid being railroaded. When they use it, it's
often to avoid accountability, which which it does. I mean,
(01:23):
this doctor also invented a physician patient privilege that doesn't
exist under federal law. So that's out. But there's an
easy way to get the doctor's testimony, which is to
pardon the doctor for any alleged crimes that might be
associated with his treatment or care of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What do you think the crimes? Do you have any
sense of what the crime could be?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't. One of the problems which the left has
created is creative use of statutes to turn things that
normal people wouldn't see as crimes into crimes, which makes
which gives people a lot of leeway when they're asserting
(02:08):
potential self incrimination. So you know, he's like, well, I'm
not exactly sure what they charged me for because it
would all be nonsense, but they might charge me. So
anything I say could incriminate tend to incriminate me. Uh
So I'm not going to say anything. And and and
I I think he has a good chance of getting
(02:28):
away with that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I was gonna say, if you were if you were
his attorney, So if you were the console.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
He'd be doing, That's that's what he'd be doing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He'd be taking totally right.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, this is absolutely Yeah, there's no upside, especially
if it's this attorney. Yeah, yeah, of course, because because
there's no upside in talking about any of this, and
people say, oh, what about the reputational damage? We all
know they knew Biden had to mensied Like there's nothing,
there's there's not going to be some Oh my gosh,
you mean you guys were dishonest about the Biden dementia
(02:58):
situation in the White House, Like, no, we know, we
already know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, the SS reputation has pulled out a port and
set sale. Let's put it that way. I mean, we
all know what this guy did. We all knew I
was covering up. Uh, they'd like to get him on
the record about it, and if they want to be sneaky,
they can, you know, get Trump to issue a pardon
for anything he did involving the Joe Biden's care treatment
or administration. And then you've got a incriminate then you
(03:26):
have a Fifth Amendment problem.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
So we'll, uh, well we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
M That's something else I'll ask you about. I'm seeing,
Uh what I what I don't want to do is
get into a a twenty twenty years of Epstein conspiracy
conversation like this is this is everywhere now I know,
I know, so we're gonna skip past the all the
there's all the stuff, and there's all the theories, and
(03:52):
there's all this. Already cover this on the show. I
can already the comments. I can, I can pre ce
in my mind. They're just like, he's paid off, He's
I've talked about this all I've been talking about this
much longer than a lot of other people. I was
the one who told everybody on the Sean Ryan Show,
which obviously blew up everywhere because a freaking huge show
about the twenty nineteen raid. The FBI is like, oh,
(04:14):
we have the tapes. We're gonna leave the tapes, and
we're gonna leave the house and the tapes are gone
and we come back. You know, I told people this
didn't even believe anyway. I don't want to get too
too deep into this now. What I do want to ask, though,
is I'm seeing that there's like the online chirping. I
don't know if it's real about a special counsel, And
to me, I just look at.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
This and I go, that's it. That's it. Even that's
a terrible idea.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It's an awful idea.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Let's let this thing die out. Look here's the thing.
We're all like, well, we want the truth about Epstein. Okay,
how would you get that? Well, I would send people
I absolutely trust into review everything, because obviously everything can't
come out because innocent people might be involved. They're innocent victims.
You you can't, you know, display child gross tapes. Yea, yeah,
(05:00):
of course that's what we send people who are absolutely
trustworthy in to see what there is, and then they
come and report to us. And we did that, and
you know, Dan b Geno at All comes out and says, okay,
I've looked at it and I was rather there was
nothing there.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And people are like.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well they've turned Dan Bongino. Okay, you're not going to
turn Dan Bongino. You know, sometimes you've got to take
yes for an answer. Is there is there more there?
I've looked for it, I can't find it. Maybe it
was there and now it's gone.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Is my thing about about the the JFK files, which
I know it's different, but it's also gotten, which is
there's nothing you can release from the JFK files that
will make the people who believe there's more in the
JFK files believe that they've gotten all the JFK files exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And again I'm not criticizing people who are suspicious or
upset or annoyse because they've been handled.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, people have been lied to. This whole thing's been
handled horribly. There there were clearly at some level. You're like, Okay,
So if the DOJ wasn't being pushed by like the
cabal or some foreign intelligence service or whatever, it's really
this incompetent that they could let Epstein get away with
this as long as they did.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, that's horrifying on horrifying in a whole different way, right, horrifying.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I just asked myself, do you think Dan Bongino is
going to go in there and lie to cover up
to protect Epstein? I think that is less likely, more
likely not true than true. Do you think that Epstein
is going to sit down and have a notarized list
of in his own handwriting, of all the people in
their various perversions. I think they probably hasn't. Do you
(06:47):
think that if Donald Trump's name was on any of
that stuff, it wouldn't have been on the front page
of the New York Times and probably twenty sixteen, Now
you know, I'm still a lawyer, technically, I have to
go where the evidence takes me, and the evidence says
this is a very bad guy who did a lot
(07:08):
of very bad things. But the idea that he was
some sort of Stavros Blowfeld of a child molesting, we
had this giant network of connected people. I don't see
the evidence of it. I'm not against seeing the evidence.
If it was there, i'd be said.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
The other thing that I brought up, see where I
was just trying to talk about the special Council idea,
But here we are talking about the you know, we're
going down the Epstein rabbit hole, but a hole that
when when someone has done something that would be very
high profile, and we're rather involving very high profile, very
powerful people a long time ago that would rely on
very very clear evidence. But the thing about this as
(07:51):
well is the kind of crimes that people are talking
about here. If you bring that charge against somebody, even
their life is probably ruined, whether they're you know, and
they could be innocent, right, I mean, like you're done,
So you've got to be damn sure about it. A
lot of that evidence may have long since been destroyed
guarded all of the above, and I don't think that
(08:13):
that's I don't think that that's somebody being naive or
anything else. Like if that stuff was out there and
people say things like there's a foreign intelligence service or
that this was somehow, you know, a deep state cabal,
whatever it is, they're not going to leave that stuff around.
They would know where it is and they would have
cleaned this up a long time ago. So I think
that that's a fair point to make in all this
(08:34):
that what Dan and Cash and Bondy have access to
now very well may not be for a variety of
reasons rue.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The totality of what existed.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So anyway, but see, we're getting a special counsel that
I just put this out to you as I also
as terrible idea. And it's because you do a special
counsel when you can't trust your own DOJ because of
a conflict of interest to do the to do the
the investigating. And so that would be the Trump administration
saying I can't trust my DOJ, we have a conflict
(09:06):
of interest. Therefore, but it's a horrible idea. Do I
have to call these in influencers on the phone, who
are friends of my influencers whatever we call them, like
the us and the me's out there like the guys
like us who are talking about this stuff in public
and say, guys, special counsel, horrible idea.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Stop talking terrible.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's it's a terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And uh, I think this is a combination of disappointment,
well earned distrust, revulsion at the subject, and just a
you know, a general understanding that we've been abused so
much in the past and lied to so thoroughly and
(09:44):
so often that you know, there's simply no defaulting to trust.
And that's I mean, that's that's a real problem. The
answer is to be trustworthy. But you know, once you've
lost trust, it takes a long time to earn it back.
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(12:29):
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(12:53):
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(14:04):
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(14:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everybody. Kurt Schlichter back in the mix.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Author, columnists, thinker, conservative commentator, veteran lawyer. He's got a
lot of titles, including the title of his new book,
American Apocalypse, which is available for pre order right now,
So get those pre orders going. Is a fiction book.
We'll talk about the book in a second. Let's first
talk about this, mister Kurk.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So we got people.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You're a lawyer, so that comes in handy here. People
are pleading the Fifth when asked about Biden's mental state
and the possibility of conspiracy to keep that from the
American people. What do you make of it?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, I know why they're doing it, and they may
be allowed to do it if there's a crime involved,
and there may be a crime. You know, the Fifth
Amendment applies to it when when we use it, it's
often to avoid being railroaded. When they use it, it's
often to avoid accountability, which which it does. I mean,
(01:23):
this doctor also invented a physician patient privilege that doesn't
exist under federal law. So that's out. But there's an
easy way to get the doctor's testimony, which is to
pardon the doctor for any alleged crimes that might be
associated with his treatment or care of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What do you think the crimes? Do you have any
sense of what the crime could be?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't. One of the problems which the left has
created is creative use of statutes to turn things that
normal people wouldn't see as crimes into crimes, which makes
which gives people a lot of leeway when they're asserting
(02:08):
potential self incrimination. So you know, he's like, well, I'm
not exactly sure what they charged me for because it
would all be nonsense, but they might charge me. So
anything I say could incriminate tend to incriminate me. Uh
So I'm not going to say anything. And and and
I I think he has a good chance of getting
(02:28):
away with that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I was gonna say, if you were if you were
his attorney, So if you were the console.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
He'd be doing, That's that's what he'd be doing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He'd be taking totally right.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I mean, this is absolutely Yeah, there's no upside, especially
if it's this attorney. Yeah, yeah, of course, because because
there's no upside in talking about any of this, and
people say, oh, what about the reputational damage? We all
know they knew Biden had to mensied Like there's nothing,
there's there's not going to be some Oh my gosh,
you mean you guys were dishonest about the Biden dementia
(02:58):
situation in the White House, Like, no, we know, we
already know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, the SS reputation has pulled out a port and
set sale. Let's put it that way. I mean, we
all know what this guy did. We all knew I
was covering up. Uh, they'd like to get him on
the record about it, and if they want to be sneaky,
they can, you know, get Trump to issue a pardon
for anything he did involving the Joe Biden's care treatment
or administration. And then you've got a incriminate then you
(03:26):
have a Fifth Amendment problem.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
So we'll, uh, well we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
M That's something else I'll ask you about. I'm seeing,
Uh what I what I don't want to do is
get into a a twenty twenty years of Epstein conspiracy
conversation like this is this is everywhere now I know,
I know, so we're gonna skip past the all the
there's all the stuff, and there's all the theories, and
(03:52):
there's all this. Already cover this on the show. I
can already the comments. I can, I can pre ce
in my mind. They're just like, he's paid off, He's
I've talked about this all I've been talking about this
much longer than a lot of other people. I was
the one who told everybody on the Sean Ryan Show,
which obviously blew up everywhere because a freaking huge show
about the twenty nineteen raid. The FBI is like, oh,
(04:14):
we have the tapes. We're gonna leave the tapes, and
we're gonna leave the house and the tapes are gone
and we come back. You know, I told people this
didn't even believe anyway. I don't want to get too
too deep into this now. What I do want to ask, though,
is I'm seeing that there's like the online chirping. I
don't know if it's real about a special counsel, And
to me, I just look at.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
This and I go, that's it. That's it. Even that's
a terrible idea.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It's an awful idea.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Let's let this thing die out. Look here's the thing.
We're all like, well, we want the truth about Epstein. Okay,
how would you get that? Well, I would send people
I absolutely trust into review everything, because obviously everything can't
come out because innocent people might be involved. They're innocent victims.
You you can't, you know, display child gross tapes. Yea, yeah,
(05:00):
of course that's what we send people who are absolutely
trustworthy in to see what there is, and then they
come and report to us. And we did that, and
you know, Dan b Geno at All comes out and says, okay,
I've looked at it and I was rather there was
nothing there.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And people are like.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well they've turned Dan Bongino. Okay, you're not going to
turn Dan Bongino. You know, sometimes you've got to take
yes for an answer. Is there is there more there?
I've looked for it, I can't find it. Maybe it
was there and now it's gone.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Is my thing about about the the JFK files, which
I know it's different, but it's also gotten, which is
there's nothing you can release from the JFK files that
will make the people who believe there's more in the
JFK files believe that they've gotten all the JFK files exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
And again I'm not criticizing people who are suspicious or
upset or annoyse because they've been handled.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah, people have been lied to. This whole thing's been
handled horribly. There there were clearly at some level. You're like, Okay,
So if the DOJ wasn't being pushed by like the
cabal or some foreign intelligence service or whatever, it's really
this incompetent that they could let Epstein get away with
this as long as they did.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, that's horrifying on horrifying in a whole different way, right, horrifying.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I just asked myself, do you think Dan Bongino is
going to go in there and lie to cover up
to protect Epstein? I think that is less likely, more
likely not true than true. Do you think that Epstein
is going to sit down and have a notarized list
of in his own handwriting, of all the people in
their various perversions. I think they probably hasn't. Do you
(06:47):
think that if Donald Trump's name was on any of
that stuff, it wouldn't have been on the front page
of the New York Times and probably twenty sixteen, Now
you know, I'm still a lawyer, technically, I have to
go where the evidence takes me, and the evidence says
this is a very bad guy who did a lot
(07:08):
of very bad things. But the idea that he was
some sort of Stavros Blowfeld of a child molesting, we
had this giant network of connected people. I don't see
the evidence of it. I'm not against seeing the evidence.
If it was there, i'd be said.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
The other thing that I brought up, see where I
was just trying to talk about the special Council idea,
But here we are talking about the you know, we're
going down the Epstein rabbit hole, but a hole that
when when someone has done something that would be very
high profile, and we're rather involving very high profile, very
powerful people a long time ago that would rely on
very very clear evidence. But the thing about this as
(07:51):
well is the kind of crimes that people are talking
about here. If you bring that charge against somebody, even
their life is probably ruined, whether they're you know, and
they could be innocent, right, I mean, like you're done,
So you've got to be damn sure about it. A
lot of that evidence may have long since been destroyed
guarded all of the above, and I don't think that
(08:13):
that's I don't think that that's somebody being naive or
anything else. Like if that stuff was out there and
people say things like there's a foreign intelligence service or
that this was somehow, you know, a deep state cabal,
whatever it is, they're not going to leave that stuff around.
They would know where it is and they would have
cleaned this up a long time ago. So I think
that that's a fair point to make in all this
(08:34):
that what Dan and Cash and Bondy have access to
now very well may not be for a variety of
reasons rue.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The totality of what existed.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So anyway, but see, we're getting a special counsel that
I just put this out to you as I also
as terrible idea. And it's because you do a special
counsel when you can't trust your own DOJ because of
a conflict of interest to do the to do the
the investigating. And so that would be the Trump administration
saying I can't trust my DOJ, we have a conflict
(09:06):
of interest. Therefore, but it's a horrible idea. Do I
have to call these in influencers on the phone, who
are friends of my influencers whatever we call them, like
the us and the me's out there like the guys
like us who are talking about this stuff in public
and say, guys, special counsel, horrible idea.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Stop talking terrible.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's it's a terrible idea.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
And uh, I think this is a combination of disappointment,
well earned distrust, revulsion at the subject, and just a
you know, a general understanding that we've been abused so
much in the past and lied to so thoroughly and
(09:44):
so often that you know, there's simply no defaulting to trust.
And that's I mean, that's that's a real problem. The
answer is to be trustworthy. But you know, once you've
lost trust, it takes a long time to earn it back.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Our spot, we're gonna talk about your booking a second sponsor,
who's Paradigm Press. There's something under American soil that has
value in it that's assessed in the trillions of This
endowment is so large it could pay off our national
debt four times over, and now thanks to Supreme Court decision,
the Trump administration could soon release it to the public.
Jim Rickards, a former advisor to the White House in
Federal Reserves, says, if you're over fifty, this could be
(10:23):
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com paid for by Paradigm Press. All right, so the
book American Apocalypse doesn't sound like it's a children's tale,
so we got to keep it not for the kids.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That sounds a little a.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Little sad, little little tough. Tell me about it, though,
what's going on?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Well?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
American Apocalypse the Second American Civil War is a book
I wrote because I'm worried we have a status quo
right now now where half of America, the left half,
doesn't believe that the right half has any legitimacy to
govern even when it where it wins full and fair
elections for the presidency, for Congress, every You know, Buck,
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it's not that they just disagree with us, It's that
they think we're actively evil. When you're telling when you're
saying Trump is literally Hitler, and they are literally saying
Trump is literally hitler. Where do you go from that?
It kind of implies that the normal rules don't apply,
and the normal rules haven't applied.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
The norms, the guidelines, they're all gone, and.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
They you know, we're to the point where we can't
rely on political procedures and the law the way we
used to be able to. We used to be able
to go into court and basically think, well, you know,
if we're right, even if the judge doesn't agree with us,
we're going to be able to enforce the laws.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
That's not happening.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And when you have a society that isn't run by
laws and isn't run by political procedures, what's left to
run it force? And we are seeing force used by them,
force against ICE agents. We're seeing Palacimpians murder people. They
just murdered a couple people this weekend. We're seeing more
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and more violence, more and more threats. We had a
low grade insurgency in the sixties and seventies with the
weather underground and the Simbulanous Liberation Army, with the lapd
and you had to take care of Unfortunately the FBI didn't.
Bill Airs is still a prominent member of academia instead
of rotting in Florence Colorado's Supermax. But you know, could
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it be worse? And this book is the worst case scenario.
This shows how a combination of arrogance, corruption, stupidity, and
a failure to honor norms and rules could spin completely
out of control into a real nightmare. And this novel
is about that nightmare.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Go get your copy, or get your at least your
pre order in for your copy at Amazon and wherever
books are sold.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, Amazon is where you go to get it. And
I gotta tell you and again it's it's not a
complete death march. There are some trademark schlicker amusing moments.
I think there may be a Buck Sex There may
be a Buck Sexton cameo in there.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I mean you need you need a former CIA analyst
with a great head of hair and a cynical attitude
about life in whatever your novel may.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Be, who also has the greatest porno name I've ever heard.
But it's a burden you live with. But you know,
I didn't write this to be miserable, and I didn't
write it as a nonfiction. I wrote it as fiction
because I wanted to tell stories of regular folks that
we can identify with, so we can see why it's
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so important that we get back to the Constitution rather
than kind of solving our problems by beating each other
over the head. And if it ever got to that,
it would be horrifying. And there's a lot of It's
a tough book, like The Attack was a tough book.
My previous one got a terrorist incident. This is a
tough book, and there are some lighter moments. But if
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you come out of this going, oh boy, it'd be
great to take that other side and just beat the
hell out of them and then everything will be great.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
No, no, all righty, go get your copy on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Gert Schlickter, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Hey, thanks for having me.
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