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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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wherever you get your podcasts. Trump waging an actual drug
war against the cartels this time around, blowing up the
tenth that's right, the tenth drug vessel. These are boats,
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including submersible, which is really like a submarine, although it
doesn't go deep. It just goes below the surface of
the water to evade detection. But the Trump Department of War,
led by my friend Secretary of Defense or Secretary of
War rather heg Seth, has been taking the fight, truly
taking the fight to the drug cartels in Venezuela. And
here's what Trump says.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I think we're gonna necessarily ask for a declaration of war.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I think we're just gonna kill people that are bringing
drugs into our country.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Okay, we're gonna kill them.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know they're gonna be like dead. Yep, he says
it pretty straightforward. We're gonna kill them. You know, they're
gonna be like dead. The President has decided that after
designating these groups like Trenda Aragua as narco terrorists, they
will be treated as terrorists and therefore this will actually
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be something much more like a war than the so
called war on drugs has been in the past. No
more cartel boats full of fentanol and other drugs flooding America.
And not just remember it's not just that it kills
people in overdoses, which is the thing that is the
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gut punch for everybody in communities all across the country,
losing loved ones, losing young people, moms, dads, husbands, brothers, sons.
That's going on to the roughly about one hundred thousand
a year number. I think last year it went down
to the nineties, but it's been well over one hundred
thousand in recent years. But there's also the degradation of
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society that occurs because of this. For example, we often
talk about the war on not just the war on drugs,
we talk about the war on crime, or rather, Trump
wants to limit crime and bring down the number of
murders in this country substantially, as certainly a very worthy goal. Well,
what are most shootings? Most shootings involve what in America
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gang related activity. That's if you go to inner city
anywhere in any major metropolitan area, A lot of the homicides,
even a majority of the homicides involve Sure, there's some
that are armed robbery and just that kind of criminality,
but a lot of the time it is drug turf
and it is people shooting each other over gang related incidents.
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These gangs really only are able to fund themselves through
the sale of drugs. So if you can dramatically pull
back their ability to get drugs like fentanylsso obviously cocaine, heroin,
other things, but if you can get their ability to
get their hands on those drugs to be substantially less,
you are cutting off the funding and really the incentive,
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in many ways, the financial incentive for this kind of
criminal activity. And then there's also on the user n
side of this, the people who are the drug addicts,
they commit crimes. This is what happens, say in a
city like San Francisco, where I know they're turning it
around now, but they had largely decriminalized drug use in
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certain places in the public, in public squares and parks.
What you have is people then just are doing these drugs.
They're incredibly addictive, and fentanyl is both very deadly and
very addictive, very easy to overdose on and incredibly hard
to get off of and so they just become these
addict zombies who will do anything. They will give up
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the rest of their lives, whatever relationships and whatever aspirations
they have, they give up the rest of their lives
in order to feed the habit. And that can involve
usually does involve criminality. They'll start to steal, they'll sell
drugs themselves so that they can feed their drug habit.
It's just all spirals. So illegal drugs are terrible for
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this country in a whole range of ways, and specifically
fentanel needs to be treated as something very serious. And
I'll tell you this, Senator marcro Rubio is not backing
off this. I'm sorry, I said. Senator Secretary of State
Mark or Rubio is not backing off this at all either.
Here's what he said online.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
These are drug boats. If people want to stop seeing
drug boats blow up, stop sending drugs to the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Doesn't matter i's in the United States.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, these are all in international waters.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
The boat in the United States or.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, that's a different manual. You're talking about a law
enforcement matter. In this particular case, there are people traveling
on international waters headed towards the United States. With hostilities
in mind, which includes flooding our country with dangerous, deadly drugs.
And they're going to be stopped. And that's what's happening.
And in the case last week you saw there was
a submarine, it was a submarine. It was a submersible.
That's a drug boat all the way through. We know
what these boats are, the President just said it. We
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tracked them from the very beginning. We know who's on them,
who they are, where they're coming from, what they have
on them. And you know, if you're running drug boats,
you're and you're in grave danger.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, people want to stop seeing drug boats blown up,
stop sending drugs to the United States. You know, the Democrats,
I understand, are going to make a big deal of this.
Some Republicans are starting to make a big deal about this.
But here's the problem Democrats have. They blew up a
US citizen without trial who was not engaged in any
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imminent lethal activity with anwor alackey. And they blew up
his son too, sixteen years old, also a US citizen,
So they've they've the obamaministration set the precedent for under
a covert action authority killing killing Americans without trial and
who were not an active combatant. Now I understand you
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could say they were plotting and they were doing bad things. Okay, yeah,
but they weren't about to fire a rocket at somebody.
They weren't about they didn't have a gun in their
hands taking part in active operations when they were killed. So,
and I'd also remind everybody that the decision to have
their raid on Bin Laden, I mean, and I think
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it was the right move, but Steel Team six went
in there and it was a it was a kill mission.
They killed Bin Laden and that was on presidential authority
as well. So let's not pretend like everybody in every
circumstance all over the world, all the bad guys, even
when Democrats are in charge, get to have you know,
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ACLU provided attorneys and get to drag everything out and
make it No, it's actually not the way things have worked,
or rather not the way things have worked even when
Democrats were in charge. So I think that's very important.
I think it's it's notable that the Democrats have the
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who are really making some noises about this one, like,
for example, Corey Booker.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
When we took the extra judicial step to blow up
speed boats. There has been no oversight and so that
claimed attack on people that were allegedly smuggling drugs. We
are constantly not doing our job, which is not a
partisan one. It is to hold this president and check
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that no one operates without accountability and without transparency. Because
power is corrupting. And when you let someone do what
they want to do, when they want to do it
without a check or a balance, it is corrupting.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And we so we need to have accountability. He says, Okay,
what is that going to be. We're supposed to now
have these individuals who are bringing these this fentandel into
the country. They're going to get a tax payer funded trial,
or maybe they're just going to plead and this is
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going to keep happening. Here's the problem that Democrats face
with this. I understand that it can seem harsh, and
it is. It's it's taking life. It's very serious business.
But remember we were taking a lot of lives in
the Northwest Frontier Province with drone strikes based upon plotting
plotting against America again. Obama administration strikes. Obama dramatically ramped
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up the drone program in the places like Waziristan, Northwest
Frontier Province, quite a these places in Pakistan where there
were these extremists operating, and they were they were to
well where some of the strikes, some of those places
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were just were extremists word, they weren't anyway. The point
is they were doing strikes in these areas and they
weren't given trial. They were treated as combat they were
treated as as a clear and present danger and there
were lethal orders given in it to strike people in
a country with which we were not at war. Okay,
we were taking people out in Pakistan under the Obama
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administration for years, years and years, And I'm gonna tell you,
I actually don't disagree with what he was doing. Just
because Obama did it didn't make it wrong. Just because
Obama gave the order for the bin Laden raid, obviously
that was the right move. And using drones in the FATA,
the Federally Administered Tribal Area of Pakistan and the Northwest
NWFP the Northwest Frontier Provinces along the border with Afghanistan.
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It was the right move. It was effective. Actually, you
don't hear about this a lot, but killed a lot
of al Qaida. It's true, we did. Now, why is
that so different than Kartel designated and told you were
not allowed to keep bringing drugs into this country because
the people that will overdose from one of these drug
one of these drug they're trafficking boats aren't to be
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considered of this of the same urgency as people that
were trying to avoid getting blown up on a plane
or something from the terrorist maniacs of al Qaida. I mean,
the more you think this thing through, the more clear
I think it becomes that the war on drugs has
to actually be more like a war. Everything else is
not going to stop them. I a long time ago,
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I went to briefings with the DEA when I was
a CIA officer, and obviously they're briefing itself. They were
giving us very tactical stuff was classified back then. But
I can tell you the broad, the broad spectrum unclassified
reality of the DEEA then and it has always been
the reality of the Drug Enforcement Administration is as long
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as people are able to become very very rich selling
this poison into America and the worst thing they really
face is going to prison in an American jail. They're
going to keep doing it. And these cartels which are
now operating really at nation state level in the case
of Venezuela where you have the narco traffickers run the
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count in fact that people in the government are narco traffickers, president,
the vice president, they're dictators. But you know, these are
the titles they use. So they're funding their oppression and
their tyranny of people in Venezuela through the drug trade. Yes,
also oil, but the drug trade is a big is
a big part of it too. That's ready cash that
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they have access to. And obviously you're not you know,
you're already evading the authorities. It's not like we're going
to officially sanction opioids coming into the country. It's already illegal.
So that's something else to keep in mind here. There's
a lot of downstream effects, negative downstam effects to our
southern neighbors. Mexico is a huge example of this of
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the drug trade and finding a way to actually stop
it or to limit it dramatic. You know, stopping it's
probably not possible, but to limit it substantially, I think is.
I think Trump's think people are going to agree with
Trump on this one. We're sick of Americans being poisoned
by fentandol. We're sick of it, and we're sick of
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dot com. Now we have the possibility here which we
have to take. I think very seriously of the Trump
administration not only striking in international waters these cartel drug boats,
but also that this may escalate. I mentioned Mexico before,
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this may get involved with the Mexican cartels, who are
very sophisticated, share a border with US, a lot of money,
a lot of influence, and ruthless and violent on the
same level as al Qaeda. Different goal than al Qaeda,
but they'll murder anybody. They'll saw if anybody's head on video.
I mean, they are absolutely brutal. We haven't really gone
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after the Mexican part of this equation, and that's going
to be the big turning point. I think it's one
thing to blow up a NARCO vessel in international waters.
Venezuela is far away from US. Venezuelan government cartels which
is the same thing. Really, their ability to hit back
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at us is very limited. If we start going after Sinaloa, Jalisco,
New Generation or Nuevo Generation cartel, the golf cartel. Some
of these have been long standing players, and there's other
new cartels, and there's even independent little cartels. They're all
fighting it out for turf and territory in Mexico. It's
the multi billion dollar industry of the illegal drug trade.
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And now you have to remember they the human trafficking
part of this is way down because Trump has secured
the border. So with that, the illegal drug sales component
is only even more fiercely contested, right because the plotza
the place along the border that's controlled for human trafficking
purposes now is the drugs are what's going to make
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the money, not just letting illegals come into our country
and they pay a essentially a fee almost like a
tax to the cartels to cross. So this is the
big interesting moment I think that we see ahead of
us here, which is are is the same counter terrorism
apparatus that we used against al Qaeda that is now
being used to track and destroy cartel boats in the
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Caribbean in international waters. Is that going to be used
to go after the cartels in Mexico? Are we going
to have tier one military assets that are doing raids
on senior cartel bosses? We're gonna be using drones armed
with hell fires. I mean, is this where it's all going.
It looks like it is to me, and that will
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