March 14, 2025 • 14 mins
Buck Sexton is joined by OAN Pentagon correspondent Gabrielle Cuccia to discuss major shifts underway at the Department of Defense. They break down the latest Pentagon initiatives under Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth and Undersecretary Sean Parnell, including efforts to eliminate DEI policies, refocus on military readiness, and conduct long-overdue audits. Cuccia provides insight into how these changes are being received inside the Pentagon, the ongoing fallout from the Afghanistan withdrawal, and the military’s increasing role in securing the southern border.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Joining us on this episode,
Gabrielle Kuccia is with us. She is the Pentagon correspondent
for One American News. He's out of DC paying attention
to all things D O D Gary. Congratulations on the gig.
(00:34):
By the way, I've been seeing the clips from One
America News.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So we got Pete heg Seth, who's an old buddy
of mine from Media World. Sean Parnell, buddy of mine
from Media World. These are the hex at the Secretary
of Defense, Parnell's under secretary for Public Affairs or communications.
What are some of the top things. What are some
of the initiatives underway right now in the Pentagon and
for the military, because it's not getting as much attention
this week as some of the other big Trump initiatives.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, of course, Well, Buck, thanks for having me again.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It feels really good to be at the Pentagon, especially
just before I even get into the specifics.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You know you have.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I know this isn't news for you, but you have
public affairs officers from every single brand to the military,
and then by the Calm Center, of which they're strategically
located to evaluate and to connect with the press on
all arenas, whether it's Paycom, indocom or you know, down
in South America wherever it may be. So when we
talk about the White House as it stands right now,
(01:32):
of course, the media is just so worked up when
there's directives or executive orders coming out at the Oval Office.
But a lot of what Trump has done in that
first term and certainly to be seen in the second
term when you talk about Ukraine or the Gaza Strip
or whatever it may be, or the Southern border right now,
that that's under a DoD directive more so than it
ever has been in our history. A lot of that
(01:52):
stuff comes and boils up at the surface level of
the Oval Office, but it's all happening at the Pentagon.
So this is an insanely transparent administration. You have those
public affairs officers, they're at the ready to answer any
and all questions. I'll even tell you just on being
purely honest, being in that arena and seeing all the press,
whether it's mainstream, left right, independent media, they're all talking
(02:13):
in person. There's no closed door to any of these
public affairs officers. So when you see the changes at
the DoD that are incredibly positive, which I'll get into,
it's wild that, you know, the military tries, you know,
their best right to stay out of politics and focus
solely on operations. And then you see some of these
news networks of which you know, one of the ones
that we kind of absolved their suite that the Pentagon
(02:36):
had given them, and they're kind of just taking that
information and then you know, course correcting it and within
their eyes what they deem to be undeployable measures or
bad takes by the Department of Defense, which is wild.
I'd say the positive thing right now that some people
are just missing all in all is outside of going
through just the operations, it's just how the military operates.
(02:56):
We saw that President Trump put out in executive order
in which transgender militants cannot be deployable, and we already
knew this, which is really interesting that historically, back in
twenty twenty one, transgender soul quote unquote allowed or permissible
in the Department of Defense, but they were never deployable
(03:16):
for a few reasons, right like they couldn't have access
in specific arenas to their medications.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Especially with covecom.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You cannot have those weekly mandated or monthly mandated conversations
with your mental health professional when you're going through quote
unquote transition. So they were never being utilized in ways
that warfighters are typically used.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this is more of just course correcting.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Hey, we have all these bodies that aren't even able
bodied in the sense of war fighting. So that's a
huge positive that came out of this administration. But there's
been a lot of media and conversations that I've had
with other outlets in which they are so hyper focused
on asking the DoD to prove and show elements or
studies of which it shows that transgenders aren't able to
(04:01):
serve in the military in a certain capacity. But I
would just say, purely on an operational level and access
to medicine and whatever it may be, you can only
put so much in your path depending on.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
What deployable you're entering.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So that was a great That was a first great
dodge at you know, re re sending what the Biden
administration had already done in inflating the DoD.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Israeli citizens look for the return of normalcy in their country.
It's hard to do when there are Ceaspire negotiations happening,
when there's increased tensions between Hamas and the IDF forces.
Nearly eighteen months after the Hamas invasion and brutal attack,
life is not normal for everyone in Israel. As israelis
work hard to return to a life of normalcy, The
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has continued to support
(04:41):
those in the Holy Land facing the lingering horrors of
war and those who are in desperate need. Your ongoing
monthly gift of forty five dollars will provide critically needed
aid to communities in the North and South parts of
Israel devastated by the ongoing war. Your generous donation each
month will help deliver to those in need. You can
provide hope during a time of great uncertainty with your gift.
Bless Israel and her people by visiting SUPPORTIFCJ dot org.
(05:05):
That's one word support, IFCJ dot org. We'll call eighty
eight four eight eight. IFCJ that's eight eight eight four
eight eight IFCJ. I've seen some reporting about senior level
military brass getting shown the door by Secretary Defense heg
Seth because of their dei obsession or some of the
(05:26):
ideological stuff that they were pushing. Has that happened, Is
that still underway? What's the status of that?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, that's absolutely still underway. I mean a lot of
people have been blowing smoke saying that this is very
a traditional from how an administration works, but not so much.
There are these top officials within the DoD that are
being evaluated and rightfully so. I mean, even not to
jump too far ahead, but you talk about the Afghan withdrawal,
(05:53):
there's a lot of whispers in the hallways on what's
going on with the Afghan withdrawal, whether this is going
to be a full on investigation or is this a review.
You can see in public source open source that there
was a review in which intelligence information was given and
gathered appropriately. But the Biden administration and say Milli to
be specific, looked at that and made the calls that
they still did, which resulted in that terrible withdrawal and cobble.
(06:16):
But at the end of the day, people still need
to answer to that this administration is not taking that lightly,
and I know that they're at least I think they're
going towards a direction of a pure investigation because people
do need to be physically.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Removed after that terrible withdrawal.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But outside of that too, when you talk about the
DEI programs, I mean these top officials were implementing and
rolling out and saying it's okay. Even though the Biden
administration said these things are acceptable. It trickles down. It's
top down, right, So even if the Biden administration like
what they did. They rolled out a memo in which
they allowed the military to grow out their hair or
have their beards, do hair dye or highlights, or even
(06:55):
nail polished, which sounds incredibly silly, but they said that
those things are allowed.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But on an operational level, it's absolutely not allowed.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
In particular places where it's more of covert operations where
you don't want to just signal out yourself to an adversary.
Those questions need to be answered. And at this point
it's really interesting because a lot of the times, with
a chain of command in the military, it could be
an easy answer of well, it was directed by the
president that this was allowed, But then you have to
go under all of that and look at, well, operationally
(07:23):
was this cohesive with the.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Mission, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And a lot of times people are forgetting in this
culture war that we're in, the individuality is not celebrated.
In the military, Individuality in ability is and recognized and
those people are placed in physicians pertinent to what they
can and can't do. But as far as the aesthetics,
I mean, in what world does that ever actually work
in the military. Who's stopping for a quick second on
(07:47):
the battlefront and going I like those uniforms.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I want to check those out. I'm not going to
shoot you. Just doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So there's a lot more turnover that's going to be
placed at the Pentagon. I mean, the first first week
or two of Hegseth being on in there, the top
commanders were removed. So there's also another element though too
for some commanders. There was one specific in the Navy
where there was a ship crash, and for things like that,
a chain of commit they're going to be removed. A
lot of mainstream media was sounding the alarm again saying
(08:14):
that this was part of the DOGE effort. But that's
just traditional DoD operations. As something goes.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Around, are there already signs that there'll be specific DoD
and DOGE collaboration on things like the Pentagon audit that
apparently can never be passed. I mean, what can you
tell us about cutting or trimming the fat within the
military industrial complex as part of all this, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Fair question.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well, the DOGE team came into the Pentagon and they
conducted an initial audit and they're still conducting more now.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
In that initial audit they focused on mostly like.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
As you know, typical those DEI initiatives to and then
you know, kind of on that same level, the climate
change initiatives, in which there was a lot of pushback
to where it was, well, the DoD needs to know
about the climate to be able to react, going back
into their logistics of planning and posturing themselves all across
the country now I mean considering the southern border, but
(09:10):
certainly globally.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But this is more of a point.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Of you cut out the fat, which is what DOG
has done with the DEI initiatives at the Pentagon specifically.
Now you're parsing out these other elements of which we
still have other government agencies and entities that do cross
sharing with DoD liaisons that can give them that said,
you know, precious climate information to relay back when it's missionmpertinent.
(09:34):
So I expect after the DEI, after the climate change acxing,
it's going to be more on the sense of what
else is already actually being conducted, especially because you know, BUCK,
the DoD and the IC integrate tremendously, so that's not
necessarily going to change, but it's reallocating those efforts that
are already established. Looking at something like Department of Energy,
(09:55):
Department of Agriculture, there's plenty of organizations and government agencies
that already fulfilled these these asks or the need for
intel that are already being provided. You don't need to
just completely blow the system and have I guess your
desk officers there and doing the same reinventing of the
wheel that's already been created. So I think those are
(10:15):
the things that they're still going to be focusing on.
There's a lot more clean house to do on that front,
but again it's kind of been a little bit more
less emphasized considering you know, Ukraine, Gaza, Southern.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Border, all the like.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
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from inside the Pentagon given all these changes? And I'm
sure the the uh you know, the gray hairs who
got the boot by secondary Hegseth are not happy. But
(11:31):
I just mean from the as much as you can
pick it up from the rank and file. Do a
lot of them feel like, hey, a focus on war
fighting and cleaning up some of the bureaucratic mess here
is a good thing, or because in other place is
not right, like USAID does not want the mess cleaned up.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But is the.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Pentagon pretty is there? Is the rank and file pretty
positive about this stuff?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah? Yeah, it absolutely is no question about it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's like the one you know, that's there's so many
reasons why I love focusing on DoD and icy operations
and then being there in person just takes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It to a whole other level.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But it's because these are people that genuinely do not
to sound so cliche, but they genuinely do love their country.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They're still holding on too.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I was in the hallway last week and I was
talking to some senior military officials on the army side,
and they were all just recounting the very first you know,
propaganda esque, you know, join the Army, first commercial they
ever saw as kids, and then being there for so long,
some of these ten twenty thirty years some of them,
and seeing the complete culture shift change, being bloated with
(12:32):
people that are just again we talk about even military standards,
that's going to be a huge thing that's changing, and
the physical fitness side, and these standards were being lowered,
and the floodgates had opened that it wasn't this war
fighting complex that these guys signed up for. I'll tell
you they're incredibly eager and want to be a part
(12:53):
of the efforts at the Southern border. I know Northcom
and Southcom announced that they're bothstering more joint efforts, especially
on the drone side, and I only think that's going
to continue. It is a direct conduit into the results
that we've seen at the Southern border. Being far less
aggressive by the cartel because they just don't.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Have the defense spending.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They're super lucrative, right, but the DoD has a nine
hundred billion defense budget and that just doesn't compare. You
look at China, they're sitting at you know, three hundred billion.
So we're far surpassing them at this moment, and we're
far more capable and have the right resources. Again, it's
just cutting the fat and redirecting where the mission set is.
So the sentiments in the morale within the building is
(13:35):
an absolute yes. I think the other the only heartburn
that people would see when it comes to these DOGE
audits or say the Afghan withdrawal, from what I've heard
was we're you know again, DoD follows a chain of command.
So when there is intel being presented and it's not
being acknowledged or chosen to be factored or digested in
a different way to make poor operational decisions, it's really
(13:58):
tough for those people that are kind of, you know,
a level or two below that higher call to defend
themselves other than saying I listened to my most senior
officer and that's what I decided to do.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So I think that's the bigger picture.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
All this cultural shift, all the mandates that are being dropped,
all good, everyone's happy with it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But now it's.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
People having to answer to direct orders that they you know,
buy the signature on the contract that they put down
to join the military, how to follow through with So
it would be really interesting to see how heg Seth
and his team kind of course course correct and make
right from things like the Afghan withdrawal, considering that they
also understand the chain of command is what made everyone's
(14:42):
hands tied to a degree. O.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
A and Pentagon correspondent Gabriell Kuccia. Great to see you.
We'll talk to you again soon about all things Do D.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Sounds great. Thanks Buck for having me
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Joining us on this episode,
Gabrielle Kuccia is with us. She is the Pentagon correspondent
for One American News. He's out of DC paying attention
to all things D O D Gary. Congratulations on the gig.
(00:34):
By the way, I've been seeing the clips from One
America News.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Let's start with this.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So we got Pete heg Seth, who's an old buddy
of mine from Media World. Sean Parnell, buddy of mine
from Media World. These are the hex at the Secretary
of Defense, Parnell's under secretary for Public Affairs or communications.
What are some of the top things. What are some
of the initiatives underway right now in the Pentagon and
for the military, because it's not getting as much attention
this week as some of the other big Trump initiatives.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, of course, Well, Buck, thanks for having me again.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It feels really good to be at the Pentagon, especially
just before I even get into the specifics.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
You know you have.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I know this isn't news for you, but you have
public affairs officers from every single brand to the military,
and then by the Calm Center, of which they're strategically
located to evaluate and to connect with the press on
all arenas, whether it's Paycom, indocom or you know, down
in South America wherever it may be. So when we
talk about the White House as it stands right now,
(01:32):
of course, the media is just so worked up when
there's directives or executive orders coming out at the Oval Office.
But a lot of what Trump has done in that
first term and certainly to be seen in the second
term when you talk about Ukraine or the Gaza Strip
or whatever it may be, or the Southern border right now,
that that's under a DoD directive more so than it
ever has been in our history. A lot of that
(01:52):
stuff comes and boils up at the surface level of
the Oval Office, but it's all happening at the Pentagon.
So this is an insanely transparent administration. You have those
public affairs officers, they're at the ready to answer any
and all questions. I'll even tell you just on being
purely honest, being in that arena and seeing all the press,
whether it's mainstream, left right, independent media, they're all talking
(02:13):
in person. There's no closed door to any of these
public affairs officers. So when you see the changes at
the DoD that are incredibly positive, which I'll get into,
it's wild that, you know, the military tries, you know,
their best right to stay out of politics and focus
solely on operations. And then you see some of these
news networks of which you know, one of the ones
that we kind of absolved their suite that the Pentagon
(02:36):
had given them, and they're kind of just taking that
information and then you know, course correcting it and within
their eyes what they deem to be undeployable measures or
bad takes by the Department of Defense, which is wild.
I'd say the positive thing right now that some people
are just missing all in all is outside of going
through just the operations, it's just how the military operates.
(02:56):
We saw that President Trump put out in executive order
in which transgender militants cannot be deployable, and we already
knew this, which is really interesting that historically, back in
twenty twenty one, transgender soul quote unquote allowed or permissible
in the Department of Defense, but they were never deployable
(03:16):
for a few reasons, right like they couldn't have access
in specific arenas to their medications.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Especially with covecom.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You cannot have those weekly mandated or monthly mandated conversations
with your mental health professional when you're going through quote
unquote transition. So they were never being utilized in ways
that warfighters are typically used.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
So this is more of just course correcting.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Hey, we have all these bodies that aren't even able
bodied in the sense of war fighting. So that's a
huge positive that came out of this administration. But there's
been a lot of media and conversations that I've had
with other outlets in which they are so hyper focused
on asking the DoD to prove and show elements or
studies of which it shows that transgenders aren't able to
(04:01):
serve in the military in a certain capacity. But I
would just say, purely on an operational level and access
to medicine and whatever it may be, you can only
put so much in your path depending on.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
What deployable you're entering.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So that was a great That was a first great
dodge at you know, re re sending what the Biden
administration had already done in inflating the DoD.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Israeli citizens look for the return of normalcy in their country.
It's hard to do when there are Ceaspire negotiations happening,
when there's increased tensions between Hamas and the IDF forces.
Nearly eighteen months after the Hamas invasion and brutal attack,
life is not normal for everyone in Israel. As israelis
work hard to return to a life of normalcy, The
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has continued to support
(04:41):
those in the Holy Land facing the lingering horrors of
war and those who are in desperate need. Your ongoing
monthly gift of forty five dollars will provide critically needed
aid to communities in the North and South parts of
Israel devastated by the ongoing war. Your generous donation each
month will help deliver to those in need. You can
provide hope during a time of great uncertainty with your gift.
Bless Israel and her people by visiting SUPPORTIFCJ dot org.
(05:05):
That's one word support, IFCJ dot org. We'll call eighty
eight four eight eight. IFCJ that's eight eight eight four
eight eight IFCJ. I've seen some reporting about senior level
military brass getting shown the door by Secretary Defense heg
Seth because of their dei obsession or some of the
(05:26):
ideological stuff that they were pushing. Has that happened, Is
that still underway? What's the status of that?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, that's absolutely still underway. I mean a lot of
people have been blowing smoke saying that this is very
a traditional from how an administration works, but not so much.
There are these top officials within the DoD that are
being evaluated and rightfully so. I mean, even not to
jump too far ahead, but you talk about the Afghan withdrawal,
(05:53):
there's a lot of whispers in the hallways on what's
going on with the Afghan withdrawal, whether this is going
to be a full on investigation or is this a review.
You can see in public source open source that there
was a review in which intelligence information was given and
gathered appropriately. But the Biden administration and say Milli to
be specific, looked at that and made the calls that
they still did, which resulted in that terrible withdrawal and cobble.
(06:16):
But at the end of the day, people still need
to answer to that this administration is not taking that lightly,
and I know that they're at least I think they're
going towards a direction of a pure investigation because people
do need to be physically.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Removed after that terrible withdrawal.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
But outside of that too, when you talk about the
DEI programs, I mean these top officials were implementing and
rolling out and saying it's okay. Even though the Biden
administration said these things are acceptable. It trickles down. It's
top down, right, So even if the Biden administration like
what they did. They rolled out a memo in which
they allowed the military to grow out their hair or
have their beards, do hair dye or highlights, or even
(06:55):
nail polished, which sounds incredibly silly, but they said that
those things are allowed.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
But on an operational level, it's absolutely not allowed.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
In particular places where it's more of covert operations where
you don't want to just signal out yourself to an adversary.
Those questions need to be answered. And at this point
it's really interesting because a lot of the times, with
a chain of command in the military, it could be
an easy answer of well, it was directed by the
president that this was allowed, But then you have to
go under all of that and look at, well, operationally
(07:23):
was this cohesive with the.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Mission, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And a lot of times people are forgetting in this
culture war that we're in, the individuality is not celebrated.
In the military, Individuality in ability is and recognized and
those people are placed in physicians pertinent to what they
can and can't do. But as far as the aesthetics,
I mean, in what world does that ever actually work
in the military. Who's stopping for a quick second on
(07:47):
the battlefront and going I like those uniforms.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I want to check those out. I'm not going to
shoot you. Just doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So there's a lot more turnover that's going to be
placed at the Pentagon. I mean, the first first week
or two of Hegseth being on in there, the top
commanders were removed. So there's also another element though too
for some commanders. There was one specific in the Navy
where there was a ship crash, and for things like that,
a chain of commit they're going to be removed. A
lot of mainstream media was sounding the alarm again saying
(08:14):
that this was part of the DOGE effort. But that's
just traditional DoD operations. As something goes.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Around, are there already signs that there'll be specific DoD
and DOGE collaboration on things like the Pentagon audit that
apparently can never be passed. I mean, what can you
tell us about cutting or trimming the fat within the
military industrial complex as part of all this, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Fair question.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well, the DOGE team came into the Pentagon and they
conducted an initial audit and they're still conducting more now.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
In that initial audit they focused on mostly like.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
As you know, typical those DEI initiatives to and then
you know, kind of on that same level, the climate
change initiatives, in which there was a lot of pushback
to where it was, well, the DoD needs to know
about the climate to be able to react, going back
into their logistics of planning and posturing themselves all across
the country now I mean considering the southern border, but
(09:10):
certainly globally.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
But this is more of a point.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Of you cut out the fat, which is what DOG
has done with the DEI initiatives at the Pentagon specifically.
Now you're parsing out these other elements of which we
still have other government agencies and entities that do cross
sharing with DoD liaisons that can give them that said,
you know, precious climate information to relay back when it's missionmpertinent.
(09:34):
So I expect after the DEI, after the climate change acxing,
it's going to be more on the sense of what
else is already actually being conducted, especially because you know, BUCK,
the DoD and the IC integrate tremendously, so that's not
necessarily going to change, but it's reallocating those efforts that
are already established. Looking at something like Department of Energy,
(09:55):
Department of Agriculture, there's plenty of organizations and government agencies
that already fulfilled these these asks or the need for
intel that are already being provided. You don't need to
just completely blow the system and have I guess your
desk officers there and doing the same reinventing of the
wheel that's already been created. So I think those are
(10:15):
the things that they're still going to be focusing on.
There's a lot more clean house to do on that front,
but again it's kind of been a little bit more
less emphasized considering you know, Ukraine, Gaza, Southern.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
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from inside the Pentagon given all these changes? And I'm
sure the the uh you know, the gray hairs who
got the boot by secondary Hegseth are not happy. But
(11:31):
I just mean from the as much as you can
pick it up from the rank and file. Do a
lot of them feel like, hey, a focus on war
fighting and cleaning up some of the bureaucratic mess here
is a good thing, or because in other place is
not right, like USAID does not want the mess cleaned up.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
But is the.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Pentagon pretty is there? Is the rank and file pretty
positive about this stuff?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah? Yeah, it absolutely is no question about it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's like the one you know, that's there's so many
reasons why I love focusing on DoD and icy operations
and then being there in person just takes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It to a whole other level.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But it's because these are people that genuinely do not
to sound so cliche, but they genuinely do love their country.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They're still holding on too.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I was in the hallway last week and I was
talking to some senior military officials on the army side,
and they were all just recounting the very first you know,
propaganda esque, you know, join the Army, first commercial they
ever saw as kids, and then being there for so long,
some of these ten twenty thirty years some of them,
and seeing the complete culture shift change, being bloated with
(12:32):
people that are just again we talk about even military standards,
that's going to be a huge thing that's changing, and
the physical fitness side, and these standards were being lowered,
and the floodgates had opened that it wasn't this war
fighting complex that these guys signed up for. I'll tell
you they're incredibly eager and want to be a part
(12:53):
of the efforts at the Southern border. I know Northcom
and Southcom announced that they're bothstering more joint efforts, especially
on the drone side, and I only think that's going
to continue. It is a direct conduit into the results
that we've seen at the Southern border. Being far less
aggressive by the cartel because they just don't.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Have the defense spending.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
They're super lucrative, right, but the DoD has a nine
hundred billion defense budget and that just doesn't compare. You
look at China, they're sitting at you know, three hundred billion.
So we're far surpassing them at this moment, and we're
far more capable and have the right resources. Again, it's
just cutting the fat and redirecting where the mission set is.
So the sentiments in the morale within the building is
(13:35):
an absolute yes. I think the other the only heartburn
that people would see when it comes to these DOGE
audits or say the Afghan withdrawal, from what I've heard
was we're you know again, DoD follows a chain of command.
So when there is intel being presented and it's not
being acknowledged or chosen to be factored or digested in
a different way to make poor operational decisions, it's really
(13:58):
tough for those people that are kind of, you know,
a level or two below that higher call to defend
themselves other than saying I listened to my most senior
officer and that's what I decided to do.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
So I think that's the bigger picture.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
All this cultural shift, all the mandates that are being dropped,
all good, everyone's happy with it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
But now it's.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
People having to answer to direct orders that they you know,
buy the signature on the contract that they put down
to join the military, how to follow through with So
it would be really interesting to see how heg Seth
and his team kind of course course correct and make
right from things like the Afghan withdrawal, considering that they
also understand the chain of command is what made everyone's
(14:42):
hands tied to a degree. O.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
A and Pentagon correspondent Gabriell Kuccia. Great to see you.
We'll talk to you again soon about all things Do D.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Sounds great. Thanks Buck for having me
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