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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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The bureaucracy is terrified of Elon Musk, and it should
be because finally there's a reckoning underway. Let's dive into
what's going on here. You've probably heard the media's oh
my gosh, what about all the sensitive information? The stuff
that they try to throw out there to slow down
Elon Musk is just absurd. I mean, I would say
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it's laughable, but this is pretty serious business, right. What
they're what doge it's trying to do is restore some
sense of fiscal sanity and discipline to the federal government.
And yes it's not perfect, it's not an overnight fix,
but you have to start somewhere, and starting at this
place of looking at the most obvious ways fraud and abuse,
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it's clearly a smart move. What else are you going
to do? So looking at this now here's first of all,
Stephen Miller does a phenomenal job here laying out that
they need to just calm down. Okay, everything is fine,
and they need to stop being meeting the Democrats crazy
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when they make all these arguments against something. This should
be a bipartisan thing. It's like we're looking at a
if the you know, if the Treasury Department was on fire,
I mean actually on fire, I would think that both
parties would say, hey, we got to put out that fire.
Fiscally speaking, it's on fire. Okay, we have spent way
too much money. The dead is way too big, and
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we're wasting way too much money, and the numbers are
mind blowing. So we should be able to come together
and say this is bad, we want this to stop.
But no, because Trump is involved, because they don't like
the Republicans. All of a sudden, there is this insane
objection series of objections that keeps coming up. But here's
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how Steven Miller handles it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Are you not celebrating these cuts? If you agree there
is waste, if you agree there is abuse, if you
agree there is corruption, why are you not celebrating the
cuts the reforms that are being instituted. Every day that
no action is taken, the entire salaries of American workers
that are taxed disappear forever.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Stephen, Let's calm down.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
This is not this is not having.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
There's no reason about whether there are well, you are
quickly trying to debate me and I I will be
as excited as I want to be about the fact
that we are saving Americans billions of dollars, that we
are ending the theft and waste and grift and corruption,
that we are stopping American taxpayer dollars from subsidizing a
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rogue federal bureaucracy that has been relentlessly weaponized against the
American people.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Okay, so yeah, I think it's quite clear that he
knows how to handle the media. Stephen Miller's a brilliant guy,
honestly one of the best people from the first Trump administration,
and very happy to see him even elevated into a
more scene year role. Though he's seenior in the first
Trump administration. Now he's debut White hour chief of staff
in the second administration. So much for us to hope
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for here in terms of the immigration policies that he's
going to be pushing and other things, but this idea
that Democrats are truly worried about what's going to happen
to the information of Americans if it gets into the
hands of Doge. This is the richest man in the world.
Who's the most capable, the most capable CEO and a
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chief executive that we know of. I mean, there's some
others who are very good, but Elon is the most impressive,
has done the most, and the fact that he's even
taking on this challenge this should be looked at as
a godsend. People should think that Elon and his team
at DOGE and President Trump of course gets all the
credit for putting them in place, empowering them to do this.
But this should be the answer to a prayer for
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our government. Instead, Democrats stand in the way and right
now just trying to get access to the IRS system.
So DOGE wants to audit the IRS, and in response
to this, Democrats are saying, oh, well, what happens when
you get access to all of this sensitive information? Quote
risk to taxpayer This from the Wall Street Journal. The
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concerns that Democrats have risk to taxpayer privacy, the integrity
of the tax system, and filing season operations. So some
IRS field agent in one of their many offices all
over the country, they have access to all this stuff.
They can harass you, they can ruin your life, they
can throw you in prison. But the real problem is
Elon Musk looking at the enormous expenditures of the IRS
and what it has been doing, and who has been
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audited and not audited. You know that we can't have
how is their effective? How is their meaning meaningful oversight
over the executive branch if in fact Elon Musk and
the acting on behalf of the president can't see what
the federal governments do it that's the part of this
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here is This was in a Hannity interview with Elon
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and Trump simultaneously. Great, I mean, the best get you
can get right now in politics in news media. But
Elon talked about the vast federal bureaucracy that opposes the president.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
What all we're really trying to do here is restore
the will of the people. Through the president. And what
we're finding is that this an unelected bureaucracy. Speaking of unelected,
there's a vast federal bureaucracy that is implacably opposed to
the president and the cabinet. And you look at to
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say DC voting, it's ninety two percent Kamala, Okay, so
we're in ninety two percent. Humlo, that's a lot. They
don't like me here either. I think about that number
a lot, and like two percent that's basically almost everyone.
And so but if, but how can you if if
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the will of the president is not implemented, and the
president is representative of the people, that means the will
of the people is not being implemented, and that means
we don't live in it a democracy. We live in
a bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Now, just understand how important this is. It opposes the president.
It's supposed to work for the president. The federal We're
not talking about Congress being obstinate here, We're not talking
about the judiciary being obstinent. Really the Supreme Court, which
is the only one that's constitutionally created the federal courts,
or creation of Congress. This is the functioning of the
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government within the executive branch saying no, you don't get
to tell us what to do. It's a form of
kind of complacent mutiny on the part of the bureaucracy,
like they just they're not going to do it. You know,
it's not that they're going to be active against the president.
They're just going to be inactive in doing what the
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president wants, and sometimes I guess active against somebody he
says do that they won't do it, or you know,
they try to stop him somehow. They've stopped access for
some DOJE employees, for example. But how is it that
the government is responsive to the will of the people
when the government exists in a kind of chamber that
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is sealed off from elected officials, right? That makes no sense.
It makes no sense that we elect people who are
supposed to oversee this vast bureaucracy and then we turn
around and they say, no, we're not going to do
it that way. No, this money is spent no matter
what you say. So isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
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Sorry that after years of being lectured about how there's
a threat to the republic right now from Donald Trump,
a threat to our democracy actually is what they always say,
a threat to our democracy. And really what we're seeing
and everyone's picking up on this, is that it's a
threat to bureaucracy that Trump poses, not democracy, and that
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the bureaucracy itself is a threat to the democracy that
Democrats pretend they care so much about. This is their
way of funding their movement and staying in power even
when they lose elections. This is why this is so important.
Elon pointed out in that interview with Sean Hannity's interview
that ninety two percent of DC voter for Kamala. So
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the federal bureaucracy is entirely a province now of the
Democrat Party as well. We can't lose sight of that.
And they know that, which is why they become so
antagonistic toward any efforts to rain this in because it's
their way of doing an end run on all elections.
Why does an election really matter if you can have
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the people beneath doing, you know, in the system, in
the apparatus, doing whatever it is that they want, irrespective
of who's technically in charge in this case, the President
Donald J. Trump. And I've seen what this is like,
as you know, I worked at the CIA. I work
at the NYPD, which is also a vast bureaucracy, not federal,
state or city rather, but it's an enormous bureaucracy and
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it's unwieldy by their very nature. They're unwilding. And I
can tell you the CIA, they really operate. And everyone's
figured this out about the intelligence community. The intelligence community
tends to operate as though it is an independent arm
of government, a bit the way that the DOJ has
even thought, oh no, we do things irrespective of politics,
and politicians not really, the elected representatives of the people
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do have the final say over these institutions. These institutions
do not operate prit from the elected will of the people,
and this is very fundamental to our government. This is
very important. Otherwise we do have some I can't even
call it a technocracy, it's a bureau cro criscy. Is
that a thing? And that is what we are facing.
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And so it's so critical that Elon continues this work
and we know more about what's really going on. I
think you're going to find that the amount of fraud
in the government is in truly I mean I say fraud,
amount of money spent on things that no serious person
could think we should spend money on money going to
straight up criminals who are ripping off our government and
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running a money going to people who you know don't
deserve it, are dead, so they're obviously not committing a
fraud themselves unless somebody else is taking that money. I
think you're going to find out that it's in the
hundreds of billions of dollars. That's a big deal. And
if we can handle that, then all of a sudden,
having a conversation about cutting a trillion dollars seems much
more reasonable and rational. Doesn't it much more serious? So
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I think this work is absolutely critical. And as you know,
I'm sitting here talking to you about the debt, and
this is why I also think you want to take
action now because Trump has a huge challenge on his hands,
so does elon getting this even a little bit under control.
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say here, which is this is the Chuck Schumer version
of things, which is I don't like how you're cutting,
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just cut differently. Yeah, that's nonsense.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Of course there's some wasteful spending, but you don't use
a meat axe and cut everything. We need to look
at each program. We need to go through Congress and
see what's wasteful and move to eliminate it and what's
very not wasteful but very much needed. I'll give you
one example. They went after community health centers in Medicaid.
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They're among the most deficient producers of healthcare we have,
yet they try to eliminate them. Makes no sense. They're
just using a meat axe and cutting everything, including many
things that American families need, want and approve of.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They don't want it to be cut. That is what
is actually going on here. They want this to continue.
One they don't want Trump and Elon to show it's possible. Two,
they don't want Trump and Elon to have any kind
of a victory because of all the political mentum they have.
And three they figure that a lot of the money
that's fraud, waste, and abuse goes to things they like
or people they like. So don't believe any of this.
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Oh I don't like how you're doing it. It's a
little bit like when you're winning an argument with somebody,
I'm not going to say your spouse, but maybe and
your spouse says I don't like your tone. Well, we're
arguing and the substance of the argument is what matters.
But no, no, with Democrats, it's they're telling you they
don't like your tone. And I think you should dismiss
that because, unlike with a spouse, you actually just want
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to beat the Democrats. With the spouse, you want to
keep the spouse happy. So, yeah, this is important stuff,
and I think that it's some that as we see
more and more information, will be harder and harder for
the Democrats to hold this really untenable position, which is waste,
fraud and abuse.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
No big deal.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
All right, that's the show for today. Shield High