March 13, 2025 • 22 mins
Why is USAID suddenly shredding classified documents in what looks like a last-minute deep state cover-up? Buck Sexton is joined by Mike Benz, Executive Director of the Foundation for Freedom Online, to break down the shocking revelations about USAID’s hidden role in global power plays, funding terrorist groups, and manipulating foreign governments—all while evading oversight. Benz reveals how USAID has been used as a covert intelligence agency, funneling billions to questionable organizations, bypassing presidential approval, and even playing a role in global regime changes. He also exposes the agency’s deep connections to U.S. universities, the media, and unions, raising major questions about taxpayer-funded influence operations.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Why is USAID destroying classified documents in some last act
of swamp hubris? What the heck is going on here?
Our friend Mike Benz joins us now. He is the
executor executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online. Mike,
what's going on at USA? Well, there's a lot that's
(00:31):
going on USAID, not as much maybe these days as before.
But why would they be destroying classified documents in some
flurry at the end?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, it's a very strange series of events that popped off.
I initially described it as a five alarm fire because
it was a very unusual email that Erica Carr, the
Executive Secretary, sent out, which said that there was going
to be an all day group event yesterday to tread
and burn all the remaining documents in the classified safes
(01:04):
and the personnel records. Erica Carr is someone who joined
USAID during the Obama administration, was named the executive secretary
the first week of the Biden administration, and it's been
kept over by Trump. One after I amplified this issue,
a bunch of folks at USAID who I know and
(01:25):
trust called me and said, actually, this is normal practice.
This is where we at the politicals who remain here,
because remember they had fourteen thousand employees, it's found to
about two hundred and ninety and picked ones. They said
that this is a relatively standard practice, but the language
in the email was pretty extreme. It was to shred
(01:46):
all documents and to reserve the burn bags for when
the shredder gets overloaded or overheated, effectively that this was
a sort of fire sale. Now, it sort of makes
sense from the perspective that usaideas in the process of
shutting down, they're leaving the building at some point, these
documents need to be handled and the process has to
(02:09):
happen at some point for discarding paper records. But Mike,
I still have lingering concerns about the speed at which
this is being done. You know, it's not usual that
you have this kind of fire sale, you know, going
out of business event where you need to reserve the
burn bags for when the shredder is being used too heavily.
(02:33):
And it's part of the reassurance that was given to
me by people who are at the agency is that
there are digital duplicates of the vast majority of these
documents and that it's rare for USAID to be the
originating agency when it comes to classification. That is, USAID
primarily handles classified documents that come from the State Department
(02:56):
or the CIA or the Department of Defense. But very
rare is not very It's not very comforting to me
because Samantha Power was probably the most crooked USAID administrator
and USAID history, and that's saying a lot. You know,
John Bolton was handed the USAID hand Grenade Award when
he ran policy and budget there in the nineteen eighties,
(03:18):
but Samantha Power fully weaponized that agency. And to me,
it's highly possible that Samantha Power could have classified a
significant number of USAID documents, put them in these safes
and then simply you don't have duplicates at the other
agencies if they weren't shared around, and something like this
would be a way to legally dispose of those documents
(03:41):
they if a digital duplicate was not provided. And also
digital duplicates can have flaws. We saw this with the
FBI during Operation Crossfire Hurricane. They deleted the emails and
text messages off of the special agent phones once John
Durham launched his investigation. We saw this with the corrupted
(04:02):
files at the FBI over the J six pipe bomber.
It's quite possible that something like that could happen in
this case as well. This is sort of like the
electronic voting machine issue. If you don't have the paper records,
you don't necessarily have a faithful duplicate. Last thing is,
we saw this again with the Whitey Bulger case when
the FBI went to prosecute him and it turned out
(04:22):
that the digital file they produced in court was not
actually the full and correct document on Whitey Bulger that
was kept in the classified safes that the FBI. There
was a paper document that had a whole additional section
attached at the end that completely inverted the history that
was presented originally in court. So, given that there are
(04:43):
going to be no new USAD documents produced, I don't
understand why these can't be moved safely to the national
archives and why there needs to be this rush to
delete it all.
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the most troubling stuff that we have found out now
(05:58):
that Trump has taken the helm and Elon and Doge
have gone in there. What is the stuff that everybody
should remember about what USAID was really doing versus what
the public maybe thought it was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, there are so many categories of it. With the
public thinks that it was doing was humanitarian assistance to
foreign countries and the people who are one level above
that in terms of knowledgeability, will appreciate that there's some
soft power role in that. For example, we supply humanitarian
assistance to foreign countries and in return we get influence
over the local governments or the local political movements, or
(06:34):
the local judges or the local indigenous communities. But in
fact there's really a USAID Truman show that where virtually
every function in modern society, whether that's the media, the
social media companies, whether that's the unions, whether that's politicians, judges, prosecutors,
and even terrorist groups and narco cartels drug cartels are
(06:59):
all on USAID payroll around the world and even here
at home, which is something that should never be allowed
to happen. There was this domestic foreign firewall that was
systematic breached by USAID, with USAID not only paying media
companies but also paying foundations that do a significant amount
(07:19):
of domestic work, and they're getting tens or sometimes hundreds
of millions of dollars from the USAID to be weaponized
against domestic opponents. But there are still many layers of
unexplored terrain here, given that USAID is effectively an intelligence
agency with no restrictions on it. See when the CIA
does a covert action, they have to get a presidential
(07:40):
finding for it, meaning there needs to be a written
sign off from the US President to do any act
of any covert action at the CIA, USAID does not
have to go through with that procedure, which means that
USAID is effectively the clearinghouse when there's a rogue element
at CIA or DoD or state who doesn't think the
(08:01):
President will approve, or if the President doesn't want to
be seen as approving, there's a layer of clause deniability
by simply calling it democracy promotion at US said, and
I think the terrorism aspect of this is really significant,
given that Syria is so much in the news these days.
You had a USA funded rebel, you know, terrorist rebel
(08:23):
faction effectively take control of the country. Mohammad al Jilani,
the leader of HTS, which overthrew that that government back
in back in December of last year, there was a
ten million dollar bounty out for his head under the
Trump One State Department. They then received financial assistance from
USAID and toppled the government of Syria. They're now the
(08:46):
de facto head of Syria going around executing thousands or
tens of thousands of ethnic minority groups in the country.
It's going to cause huge schisms throughout the Middle East
as that situation develops. And USAID has its fingerprints all
over those terrorist groups, just as they have it all
over the Taliban, just as they have it all over
(09:07):
terrorist groups in Africa, in the set Hell region, as
well as in Central Asia and in Pakistan and particularly
in the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well, when you say, when you say fingerprints on those groups,
so do we know that there was USAID money, meaning
our money, but through the PRISM or the cutout of
USAID going directly to those groups.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes, this is actually testified by USAID administrator Folks in
Congress just three weeks ago. There's a Middle East Monitor
and other reporting outlets have also disclosed hundreds of millions
of dollars. I believe it's in the billions of dollars.
Because if the CIA wants to support those those groups,
(09:50):
isis al Qaeda, the alnoose for front all these designated
terrorist groups, and the President doesn't want to do it,
then they can go. They can simply launder it through
USAID and it'll take the form of logistical funds or
shelter and housing or public health, and all these things
get laundered through USA.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So that's an end run on material support to terrorism concerns, right, basically,
that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
In in fact, USAID, the Inspector General report from a month
ago even showed how there was a fatal flaw in
the contracting system at USAID where grantees. If you're getting
a grant from USAID, you need to go through with
the standard O fact reporting this sort of anti terrorism
financing set of laws, but contractors are not subject to that.
(10:40):
So effectively, contractors can be used to completely end run
the sort of money laundering obligations that banks are subject to,
that anyone who uses the International Swift system is subject to.
And so all this is done to prop up these
paramilitary terrorist proxy groups who as Hillary Clinton said to
Jake Sullivan in the Wikileague's email from twenty eleven, when
(11:04):
they said al Qaeda is on our side in Syria,
and now an al Qaeda offshoot now runs the government
of Syria, and you see USAID giving them something like
one hundred and twenty two million dollars in financing. You
can understand how these dirty deeds of statecraft are outsourced
to USAID.
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(12:25):
Within the government apparatus.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, there's a few. I'll tell you a couple off
the top that I'd like to see immediately. One of
them is a review of all the USAID State Department, Pentagon,
National Down for Democracy, and Department of Labor funds that
are given to unions. This is a really nasty element
of rent a riot behavior that has been a part
(12:51):
of the CI toolkit for now fifty some years. When
we switch to a small wars model at the Pentagon,
we transition from primarily using tanks and fighter jets to
using street movements, the so called color revolutions or people
powered revolutions, and unions play the major role in the
muscle on the ground when it comes to surrounding the
(13:13):
Parliament building and violently ousting a president from office, as
was done in the twenty fourteen my Don Ku in Ukraine,
as was done by the Biden administration to the government
of Bangladesh at the end of last year, as was
planned to be done if Trump won the twenty twenty
election by a group called the Transition Integrity Project run
(13:36):
by senior military and intelligence officials here in the US
and the unions played the dominant role in that. In
particularly the AFLCIO, which is the largest union here in
the US, used to be known as the afl CIA
by the New Left in the nineteen sixties and seventies
because the revealed pattern of partnerships with the CIA's international
(13:59):
the aflcio's international branch. It does something like seventy five
international branches and countries around the world, and was a
constant partner of the CIA when they were from venting
street revolution protests abroad and would come to be weaponized
against the anti Vietnam War Left in the nineteen seventies.
They play a major role in statecraft today. The AFLCIO
(14:23):
headquarters has basically parked just a few blocks from the
White House. They had an agreement with the Chamber of
Commerce to shut down the country of Trump won the
Electoral College back in twenty twenty. They received tens of
millions of dollars from the National Dowment for Democracy's Solidarity
Center and from the Department of Labour's Bureau of International Affairs.
(14:43):
We saw this, for example in Brazil. There's this lurking
issue around internet censorship, with all these different countries balkanizing
their Internet to block X. We saw Brazil ban X.
We see the European Union pursuing these well, the unions
all backed Lula in Brazil. Lula was from the Workers
Party and unions were as primary backers. And I've personally
(15:07):
found tens of millions of dollars flowing directly from the
Biden Department of Labor to these very union groups in
Brazil backing Lula. Now that's just in Brazil, and I
think I've so far found around thirty million dollars just
from the Department of Labor. Now, the afl CIO is
also at war with Elon Musk and Tesla because of
(15:29):
the refusal of Elon to unionize the Tesla workforce. I
have no doubt that the afl CIO has a hand
in these protests against against the Tesla car dealerships, and
that's being coordinated by these groups like Indivisible and move
On and these reed Hoffin funded groups that all have deep,
deep connections to the unions. And frankly, if it's I
(15:52):
have no problem. I'm not pro or anti union, but
when you're subsidized by US taxpayer dollars and we're paying
to be protested against that's a horse of a different color.
And I think there's a major scandal there just waiting
beneath the surface to be unbound.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
What do you think happen now that it seems about
I don't know. Thirty forty percent of the Department of
Education's workforce has been told pack up your stuff. How
does this play out?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think it's fascinating. I mean, the role of the
Department of Education, I think has largely been pernicious one.
We have not advanced up the PISA score scale. We
have not advanced since the Department of Education's creation. I
think US education has only fallen farther and farther behind
(16:42):
other countries once with far less GDP and a far
lower standard of living. I'm not convinced that there's a
correlation between more Department of Education activity or funding and
higher education in the US. But what you do see
is a very corrupt nexus between the universities and their
government funding, whether that's from the Department of Education or
(17:03):
whether that's from USAID or DHARPA or NIH. The government
is there is no free market in the education system,
which makes it very difficult for new entrants with better
ideas or more innovative educational techniques to be able to
make inroads into the market because you can't compete against
(17:24):
these massive endowments and the effectively the government cartel over education.
And so I think breaking that cartel is an important
component in creating a genuine free market in the education space.
We saw, for example, and I've reported some of this
recently because we see this major issue popping off right
(17:45):
now with Columbia and these other major universities. Well, Columbia
is a you know, there's a funny story around that.
They're the group that administers the Pulitzer Prize, the same
Politzer Prize awarded to the Russiagate fraudsters in twenty seventeen.
They were given a Pulitzer for essentially fraudulent work. The
(18:06):
Pulitzer was awarded to Reuters in twenty twenty four, who
got three hundred million dollars in government contracts and grants
during the Biden administration. Three hundred million dollars, It's just
a huge amount. And the Pulitzer was given to them
for their write up on misconduct at all of Elon
Musks Companies X Neuralink SpaceX Tesla. It was basically just
(18:30):
a hit piece on Elon Musk and everything he does.
And that's Columbia effectively through the Pulitzer Foundation awarded that
prize to Columbia also is deeply in bed with the Blob,
the foreign policy establishment for all this USAID work, sovietology,
the Russian studies and area studies, African studies, Asian studies,
(18:56):
Latin American studies, all these common majors at universities really
came from Columbia back in the nineteen fifties when the
architect of this set up, this guy Philip Mosley, who
worked closely with the CIA. He was previously was a
high ranking State Department official before he came to Columbia
and set up this nexus and basically joined these area
(19:18):
studies groups at the universities with the CIA and the
State Department in the Defense Department by having the major
university centers, institutes and departments serve as an interlocutor role
for statecraft, so they would bring over Russian emigres, they
would gather intelligence in foreign countries, they do the exchange
(19:38):
programs and seed people over there, all while coordinating with
the CIA on all of that. Philip Mosley at a
CI security clearance he personally consulted Allan Dulles, the head
of the CIA at the time. You now see this
in basically every major university, and the endowments make bank
off of all of this. There's a really sick example
(19:59):
from the nineteen nineties when the Harvard Endowment was together
with the George Soros Investment Fund, I think it was
the Quantum Fund. We're given special access to the selloff
of the Russian state assets when they transitioned from communism
to capitalism. In the nineteen nineties, Harvard set up something
called the Harvard Institute for International Development, which was given
(20:22):
about half a billion dollars by the US Agency for
International Development USAID to be the primary, effectively USAID contractor
to privatize those state assets. And then the endowment fund
of the university got first pick at all those privatized assets.
And so if Harvard was able to secure hundreds of
(20:43):
millions or low billions of dollars for their endowment through
that process, I wonder is Columbia doing the same thing.
Is the University of Pennsylvania which housed the Penn Biden Center,
and Amy Gutman, who was the head of it when
I was there, back in the early two thousands and
became Joe Biden's ambassador to Germany during the time we
blew up the nord Stream pipeline. Is the University of
(21:05):
Pennsylvania endowment in on that gig. There needs to be
a full review not just of the Department of Education
funding or USAID funding, but really the role of these
endowments and being hitched to the star of the blob
and profiting themselves, pocketing it for themselves. It's doesn't trickle
down to the students in terms of diminished tuition. These
(21:27):
are powerhouse businesses, not really five oh one c threes.
They have fifty billion dollars in the Harvard Endowment, and
I think much of that is ill gotten gains from
partnerships with the CIA, the State Department, the Defense Department,
and as Trump World is reorganizing this entire structure, I
think that needs to be looked at closely.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Mike Ben's fascinating stuff. Let's have you back again soon
because we're a time for now. But the Foundation for
Freedom Online is your organization. People should go check out
what you're doing and really interesting. Please come back and
we'll talk to you more about all the dismantling of
the deep state that's going on. People need to know
about this.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Thank you, Buck M.
Why is USAID destroying classified documents in some last act
of swamp hubris? What the heck is going on here?
Our friend Mike Benz joins us now. He is the
executor executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online. Mike,
what's going on at USA? Well, there's a lot that's
(00:31):
going on USAID, not as much maybe these days as before.
But why would they be destroying classified documents in some
flurry at the end?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, it's a very strange series of events that popped off.
I initially described it as a five alarm fire because
it was a very unusual email that Erica Carr, the
Executive Secretary, sent out, which said that there was going
to be an all day group event yesterday to tread
and burn all the remaining documents in the classified safes
(01:04):
and the personnel records. Erica Carr is someone who joined
USAID during the Obama administration, was named the executive secretary
the first week of the Biden administration, and it's been
kept over by Trump. One after I amplified this issue,
a bunch of folks at USAID who I know and
(01:25):
trust called me and said, actually, this is normal practice.
This is where we at the politicals who remain here,
because remember they had fourteen thousand employees, it's found to
about two hundred and ninety and picked ones. They said
that this is a relatively standard practice, but the language
in the email was pretty extreme. It was to shred
(01:46):
all documents and to reserve the burn bags for when
the shredder gets overloaded or overheated, effectively that this was
a sort of fire sale. Now, it sort of makes
sense from the perspective that usaideas in the process of
shutting down, they're leaving the building at some point, these
documents need to be handled and the process has to
(02:09):
happen at some point for discarding paper records. But Mike,
I still have lingering concerns about the speed at which
this is being done. You know, it's not usual that
you have this kind of fire sale, you know, going
out of business event where you need to reserve the
burn bags for when the shredder is being used too heavily.
(02:33):
And it's part of the reassurance that was given to
me by people who are at the agency is that
there are digital duplicates of the vast majority of these
documents and that it's rare for USAID to be the
originating agency when it comes to classification. That is, USAID
primarily handles classified documents that come from the State Department
(02:56):
or the CIA or the Department of Defense. But very
rare is not very It's not very comforting to me
because Samantha Power was probably the most crooked USAID administrator
and USAID history, and that's saying a lot. You know,
John Bolton was handed the USAID hand Grenade Award when
he ran policy and budget there in the nineteen eighties,
(03:18):
but Samantha Power fully weaponized that agency. And to me,
it's highly possible that Samantha Power could have classified a
significant number of USAID documents, put them in these safes
and then simply you don't have duplicates at the other
agencies if they weren't shared around, and something like this
would be a way to legally dispose of those documents
(03:41):
they if a digital duplicate was not provided. And also
digital duplicates can have flaws. We saw this with the
FBI during Operation Crossfire Hurricane. They deleted the emails and
text messages off of the special agent phones once John
Durham launched his investigation. We saw this with the corrupted
(04:02):
files at the FBI over the J six pipe bomber.
It's quite possible that something like that could happen in
this case as well. This is sort of like the
electronic voting machine issue. If you don't have the paper records,
you don't necessarily have a faithful duplicate. Last thing is,
we saw this again with the Whitey Bulger case when
the FBI went to prosecute him and it turned out
(04:22):
that the digital file they produced in court was not
actually the full and correct document on Whitey Bulger that
was kept in the classified safes that the FBI. There
was a paper document that had a whole additional section
attached at the end that completely inverted the history that
was presented originally in court. So, given that there are
(04:43):
going to be no new USAD documents produced, I don't
understand why these can't be moved safely to the national
archives and why there needs to be this rush to
delete it all.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
At the end, the fight for life is ongoing day
in and day out, and on the front lines of
it Preborn. Preborn has a network of clinics across the
nation who have a very simple but profoundly important mission,
which is to save the lives of as many tiny
baby as they possibly can, and they do this by
putting their clinics in areas of the country where abortion
(05:14):
rates are highest and offering women an alternative to abortion
with love and care and support. Now, this process usually
starts with an ultrasound, because once mom sees that tiny heartbeat,
she knows the choice here has to be for life.
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day in and day out. What do you think is
the most troubling stuff that we have found out now
(05:58):
that Trump has taken the helm and Elon and Doge
have gone in there. What is the stuff that everybody
should remember about what USAID was really doing versus what
the public maybe thought it was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, there are so many categories of it. With the
public thinks that it was doing was humanitarian assistance to
foreign countries and the people who are one level above
that in terms of knowledgeability, will appreciate that there's some
soft power role in that. For example, we supply humanitarian
assistance to foreign countries and in return we get influence
over the local governments or the local political movements, or
(06:34):
the local judges or the local indigenous communities. But in
fact there's really a USAID Truman show that where virtually
every function in modern society, whether that's the media, the
social media companies, whether that's the unions, whether that's politicians, judges, prosecutors,
and even terrorist groups and narco cartels drug cartels are
(06:59):
all on USAID payroll around the world and even here
at home, which is something that should never be allowed
to happen. There was this domestic foreign firewall that was
systematic breached by USAID, with USAID not only paying media
companies but also paying foundations that do a significant amount
(07:19):
of domestic work, and they're getting tens or sometimes hundreds
of millions of dollars from the USAID to be weaponized
against domestic opponents. But there are still many layers of
unexplored terrain here, given that USAID is effectively an intelligence
agency with no restrictions on it. See when the CIA
does a covert action, they have to get a presidential
(07:40):
finding for it, meaning there needs to be a written
sign off from the US President to do any act
of any covert action at the CIA, USAID does not
have to go through with that procedure, which means that
USAID is effectively the clearinghouse when there's a rogue element
at CIA or DoD or state who doesn't think the
(08:01):
President will approve, or if the President doesn't want to
be seen as approving, there's a layer of clause deniability
by simply calling it democracy promotion at US said, and
I think the terrorism aspect of this is really significant,
given that Syria is so much in the news these days.
You had a USA funded rebel, you know, terrorist rebel
(08:23):
faction effectively take control of the country. Mohammad al Jilani,
the leader of HTS, which overthrew that that government back
in back in December of last year, there was a
ten million dollar bounty out for his head under the
Trump One State Department. They then received financial assistance from
USAID and toppled the government of Syria. They're now the
(08:46):
de facto head of Syria going around executing thousands or
tens of thousands of ethnic minority groups in the country.
It's going to cause huge schisms throughout the Middle East
as that situation develops. And USAID has its fingerprints all
over those terrorist groups, just as they have it all
over the Taliban, just as they have it all over
(09:07):
terrorist groups in Africa, in the set Hell region, as
well as in Central Asia and in Pakistan and particularly
in the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Well, when you say, when you say fingerprints on those groups,
so do we know that there was USAID money, meaning
our money, but through the PRISM or the cutout of
USAID going directly to those groups.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes, this is actually testified by USAID administrator Folks in
Congress just three weeks ago. There's a Middle East Monitor
and other reporting outlets have also disclosed hundreds of millions
of dollars. I believe it's in the billions of dollars.
Because if the CIA wants to support those those groups,
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isis al Qaeda, the alnoose for front all these designated
terrorist groups, and the President doesn't want to do it,
then they can go. They can simply launder it through
USAID and it'll take the form of logistical funds or
shelter and housing or public health, and all these things
get laundered through USA.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
So that's an end run on material support to terrorism concerns, right, basically,
that's what that means.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
In in fact, USAID, the Inspector General report from a month
ago even showed how there was a fatal flaw in
the contracting system at USAID where grantees. If you're getting
a grant from USAID, you need to go through with
the standard O fact reporting this sort of anti terrorism
financing set of laws, but contractors are not subject to that.
(10:40):
So effectively, contractors can be used to completely end run
the sort of money laundering obligations that banks are subject to,
that anyone who uses the International Swift system is subject to.
And so all this is done to prop up these
paramilitary terrorist proxy groups who as Hillary Clinton said to
Jake Sullivan in the Wikileague's email from twenty eleven, when
(11:04):
they said al Qaeda is on our side in Syria,
and now an al Qaeda offshoot now runs the government
of Syria, and you see USAID giving them something like
one hundred and twenty two million dollars in financing. You
can understand how these dirty deeds of statecraft are outsourced
to USAID.
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(12:25):
Within the government apparatus.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, there's a few. I'll tell you a couple off
the top that I'd like to see immediately. One of
them is a review of all the USAID State Department, Pentagon,
National Down for Democracy, and Department of Labor funds that
are given to unions. This is a really nasty element
of rent a riot behavior that has been a part
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of the CI toolkit for now fifty some years. When
we switch to a small wars model at the Pentagon,
we transition from primarily using tanks and fighter jets to
using street movements, the so called color revolutions or people
powered revolutions, and unions play the major role in the
muscle on the ground when it comes to surrounding the
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Parliament building and violently ousting a president from office, as
was done in the twenty fourteen my Don Ku in Ukraine,
as was done by the Biden administration to the government
of Bangladesh at the end of last year, as was
planned to be done if Trump won the twenty twenty
election by a group called the Transition Integrity Project run
(13:36):
by senior military and intelligence officials here in the US
and the unions played the dominant role in that. In
particularly the AFLCIO, which is the largest union here in
the US, used to be known as the afl CIA
by the New Left in the nineteen sixties and seventies
because the revealed pattern of partnerships with the CIA's international
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the aflcio's international branch. It does something like seventy five
international branches and countries around the world, and was a
constant partner of the CIA when they were from venting
street revolution protests abroad and would come to be weaponized
against the anti Vietnam War Left in the nineteen seventies.
They play a major role in statecraft today. The AFLCIO
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headquarters has basically parked just a few blocks from the
White House. They had an agreement with the Chamber of
Commerce to shut down the country of Trump won the
Electoral College back in twenty twenty. They received tens of
millions of dollars from the National Dowment for Democracy's Solidarity
Center and from the Department of Labour's Bureau of International Affairs.
(14:43):
We saw this, for example in Brazil. There's this lurking
issue around internet censorship, with all these different countries balkanizing
their Internet to block X. We saw Brazil ban X.
We see the European Union pursuing these well, the unions
all backed Lula in Brazil. Lula was from the Workers
Party and unions were as primary backers. And I've personally
(15:07):
found tens of millions of dollars flowing directly from the
Biden Department of Labor to these very union groups in
Brazil backing Lula. Now that's just in Brazil, and I
think I've so far found around thirty million dollars just
from the Department of Labor. Now, the afl CIO is
also at war with Elon Musk and Tesla because of
(15:29):
the refusal of Elon to unionize the Tesla workforce. I
have no doubt that the afl CIO has a hand
in these protests against against the Tesla car dealerships, and
that's being coordinated by these groups like Indivisible and move
On and these reed Hoffin funded groups that all have deep,
deep connections to the unions. And frankly, if it's I
(15:52):
have no problem. I'm not pro or anti union, but
when you're subsidized by US taxpayer dollars and we're paying
to be protested against that's a horse of a different color.
And I think there's a major scandal there just waiting
beneath the surface to be unbound.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
What do you think happen now that it seems about
I don't know. Thirty forty percent of the Department of
Education's workforce has been told pack up your stuff. How
does this play out?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I think it's fascinating. I mean, the role of the
Department of Education, I think has largely been pernicious one.
We have not advanced up the PISA score scale. We
have not advanced since the Department of Education's creation. I
think US education has only fallen farther and farther behind
(16:42):
other countries once with far less GDP and a far
lower standard of living. I'm not convinced that there's a
correlation between more Department of Education activity or funding and
higher education in the US. But what you do see
is a very corrupt nexus between the universities and their
government funding, whether that's from the Department of Education or
(17:03):
whether that's from USAID or DHARPA or NIH. The government
is there is no free market in the education system,
which makes it very difficult for new entrants with better
ideas or more innovative educational techniques to be able to
make inroads into the market because you can't compete against
(17:24):
these massive endowments and the effectively the government cartel over education.
And so I think breaking that cartel is an important
component in creating a genuine free market in the education space.
We saw, for example, and I've reported some of this
recently because we see this major issue popping off right
(17:45):
now with Columbia and these other major universities. Well, Columbia
is a you know, there's a funny story around that.
They're the group that administers the Pulitzer Prize, the same
Politzer Prize awarded to the Russiagate fraudsters in twenty seventeen.
They were given a Pulitzer for essentially fraudulent work. The
(18:06):
Pulitzer was awarded to Reuters in twenty twenty four, who
got three hundred million dollars in government contracts and grants
during the Biden administration. Three hundred million dollars, It's just
a huge amount. And the Pulitzer was given to them
for their write up on misconduct at all of Elon
Musks Companies X Neuralink SpaceX Tesla. It was basically just
(18:30):
a hit piece on Elon Musk and everything he does.
And that's Columbia effectively through the Pulitzer Foundation awarded that
prize to Columbia also is deeply in bed with the Blob,
the foreign policy establishment for all this USAID work, sovietology,
the Russian studies and area studies, African studies, Asian studies,
(18:56):
Latin American studies, all these common majors at universities really
came from Columbia back in the nineteen fifties when the
architect of this set up, this guy Philip Mosley, who
worked closely with the CIA. He was previously was a
high ranking State Department official before he came to Columbia
and set up this nexus and basically joined these area
(19:18):
studies groups at the universities with the CIA and the
State Department in the Defense Department by having the major
university centers, institutes and departments serve as an interlocutor role
for statecraft, so they would bring over Russian emigres, they
would gather intelligence in foreign countries, they do the exchange
(19:38):
programs and seed people over there, all while coordinating with
the CIA on all of that. Philip Mosley at a
CI security clearance he personally consulted Allan Dulles, the head
of the CIA at the time. You now see this
in basically every major university, and the endowments make bank
off of all of this. There's a really sick example
(19:59):
from the nineteen nineties when the Harvard Endowment was together
with the George Soros Investment Fund, I think it was
the Quantum Fund. We're given special access to the selloff
of the Russian state assets when they transitioned from communism
to capitalism. In the nineteen nineties, Harvard set up something
called the Harvard Institute for International Development, which was given
(20:22):
about half a billion dollars by the US Agency for
International Development USAID to be the primary, effectively USAID contractor
to privatize those state assets. And then the endowment fund
of the university got first pick at all those privatized assets.
And so if Harvard was able to secure hundreds of
(20:43):
millions or low billions of dollars for their endowment through
that process, I wonder is Columbia doing the same thing.
Is the University of Pennsylvania which housed the Penn Biden Center,
and Amy Gutman, who was the head of it when
I was there, back in the early two thousands and
became Joe Biden's ambassador to Germany during the time we
blew up the nord Stream pipeline. Is the University of
(21:05):
Pennsylvania endowment in on that gig. There needs to be
a full review not just of the Department of Education
funding or USAID funding, but really the role of these
endowments and being hitched to the star of the blob
and profiting themselves, pocketing it for themselves. It's doesn't trickle
down to the students in terms of diminished tuition. These
(21:27):
are powerhouse businesses, not really five oh one c threes.
They have fifty billion dollars in the Harvard Endowment, and
I think much of that is ill gotten gains from
partnerships with the CIA, the State Department, the Defense Department,
and as Trump World is reorganizing this entire structure, I
think that needs to be looked at closely.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Mike Ben's fascinating stuff. Let's have you back again soon
because we're a time for now. But the Foundation for
Freedom Online is your organization. People should go check out
what you're doing and really interesting. Please come back and
we'll talk to you more about all the dismantling of
the deep state that's going on. People need to know
about this.
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