August 4, 2022 • 36 mins
Brittney Griner calls light up the phone lines with listeners challenging Buck and saying, "Lock her up!" As usual, Buck's eloquent and sharp analysis is apparent when speaking with the passionate callers. Ted Cruz: The Dem reconciliation bill funds 87,000 new IRS workers. Why did Joe Manchin do it? Sinema plays coy on bill, fishing for payoff from Democrats. Former Trump official and podcaster Monica Crowley joins Buck to discuss Pelosi's Taiwan trip, the Dem spending bill and Bidenflation. What's gain-of-function research?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show gets going right now, give you a
little quick roadmap as to where we are going. Third hour,
we're gonna have fascinating discussion with Senator Rand Paul, the
Good Doctor, about the hearings on Capitol Hill with regard
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to gain a function research. And they have a bunch
of experts who have testified saying pretty terrifying stuff about
what can go wrong with gain of function and that
this was being done in some places, notably the Wuhan
Institute of Virology in China, makes it something that we
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should certainly focus in on, get to the bottom of,
get some answers about. And also the latest with the
Democrat Reconciliation Bill, they're looking to really create a lot
of jobs, a lot of jobs for IRS agents. Oh yeah,
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we're gonna be talking about that here in just a moment.
But you know this Britney Griner situation, she just got
sentence in nine years And you know, it's always funny.
We can tell people we love whenever we get calls
in on any subject, and it's honestly, such an honor
that so many of you listen across the country. You
spend time with us. We hang out together, we learned together,
(01:28):
dive into what matters, have some fun too, and so
I always really appreciate it. But it is funny because
sometimes you hit a topic and all of a sudden,
I can see producer Greg who's working the phones right now,
and he needs about eight hands to just deal with
the lines just light up like a Christmas tree. People
are really fired up about this, and I look, I
will tell you, I think there are There are definitely
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nuances here. There's a lot of there's the foreign policy
component of this. How much of this is Russia trying
to make a point against the US. How much of
it is they just want to have leverage in a
negotiation with us? But also, what kind of special treatment
is Britney Grinder getting because she is a famous celebrity.
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How much our Democrats focused on this even more because
she's a celebrity female and minority then they would and
say the case of Paul Whaler, there's I understand, there's
a lot of layers here, and we got all the
lines loot up. So I'll take a couple more on
this one to get some of those additional components into
our discussion, and then we'll talk reconciliation. Bill Monica Crowley
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also producer Raley about half an hour, right, I should
be with this little less than that. Monica Crowley formerly
the Treasury Department, great analysts of a whole range of things.
All right, let's start here with Mark in Maine. Mark,
you've got some thoughts on this one. Hey, guys, thanks
for taking my call. So you know, I listen to
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a few of your callers in I just I guess
I want to ask them, you know, where's your compassion
for your fellow human being? I think that being okay
with someone being put in prison for nine years for
doing cannabis oil is really really extreme, and it's like,
how do you celebrate freedom in this country and be
okay with someone getting that much time for just you know,
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taking a little marijuana and they're not hurting anyone. I mean,
it was point seven grams. My understanding is that that
that's about a teaspoon. And they charged her with transportation
of a quote large scale transportation and significant amount of drugs. Basically,
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they hit her with a drug trafficking charge for a
teaspoon's worth of cannabis oil, as if she was going
to sell it to other people in Russia. She was
not going to get rich selling a teaspoon of cannabis
oil in Russia that much, I could assure folks up.
So she was not charged with simple possession. That would
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be different, right, She was charged with transportation and the
Russian equivalent of intent to distribute. So does that seem fair?
I mean, I know, is she the Pablo Escobar of
vape pens? I don't think so. So I do believe
that there should be some you know, we need to
keep our heads about this, and not just because the
other side plays politics with everybody all the time. Doesn't
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mean that we can't just look at this as an
issue of what is fair and just and say, oh,
the Russian criminal justice system they get determined. I mean,
trust me, you don't want to be an American facing
anything in the Russian criminal justice system. We have Frank
and Colorado also on this one. Frank, what's going on? Yes? Right?
Thank you? Just thinking that the president, Harris and Pelosi
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have already reassured her attorneys that she will be religious.
But it's not going to be before the mid terms,
and right at the midterms that will help them out
the most. Oh, I think that they always like the
time these things for maximumical effect. That's how democrats, That's
how democrats role. And uh, let's do let me see here,
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Stephen Florida. Steve, you're you're a order guy. What do
you think, Steve Hey, thanks for taking my call. I mean,
we can debate whether she got charged right or wrong,
but I don't think we should be giving up a
one of the top notorious gun dealers for Brittany Griner.
I mean, I think that's a little Yeah. Did you
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hear our interview with President Trump last week where he
just said, look, it's a bad deal. So yeah, you're
not alone on this wheel. I mean, that's that's insane. Yeah,
it looks like that's what I think they're gonna do it.
By the way point they can. Yeah, I mean it
just goes to show you. But you know you look
at thank you for calling in, Steve. I mean, I
remember the Oh gosh, I can't remember the year, and
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I'm going into the memory banks now, Producer, Greg, you
take a look at this. I think the Israelis once
traded something like a thousand a thousand Palestinian prisoners for
three Israelis. I think that happened at one point. I'm
maybe my numbers are a little bit off, but disparate trades.
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We value life and justice and decency as a people
and as a government more than the Russian government does.
Just gonna say, I mean, that's I think that's quite obvious.
It was obvious before the invasion and decimation of Ukraine.
It's even more obvious now than it was then. But anyway,
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so I wanted to get some more some more voices
in there. Obviously, some folks feel very strongly that, look,
you know, you're you go to Russia, you've got to
be on guard about this. And she did have you know,
they didn't plant it on her. That's not the claim
it's being made, So that would be a whole different thing, right,
But it is a teaspons worth of of cannabis oil.
So yeah, let me see, Yeah that did I was
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right about this. Um Israel back in nine eighty five
exchanged a thousand Palestinian prisoners for three Israelis captured during
the nineteen eighty two invasion of Lebanon. So just saying
the stuff does happen. All right, let's get to thank
you all for waited. Let's get to the Democrats. The
reconciliation built one part of this that everybody should be
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reminded of. And Ted Cruz was hammering on the Senator
cruise of Texas. They're gonna fund I mean, I look
at this, as You've gotta be kidding me. Eighty seven
thousand IRS agents, eighty seven thousand. Here he is, This
bill funds eighty seven thousand new IRS agents, imagined IRS
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agents descending upon America like a swarm of locusts. And
by the way, these IRS agents aren't there to go
after billionaires. They're there to go after you. They're there
to go after your small business. They're there to go
after your family. The Democrats idea is if they audit
the hell out of every American, think of all the
money they can raise. Now, I gotta say, as I've
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traveled Texas, as I've traveled the country, I've heard the
people yearning for a lot of things in America. I've
never once heard someone say what we need is more
IRS agents. I mean, this is big government rona muck
it is. You know, they talk about what's fair in
the tax code. All right, libs, how about this one.
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Why don't we have a fair tax or a flair tax?
Combination of a flat at a fair tax, the flair
tax is amazing. Maybe just came up with something that's
a tax that is just got a lot of got
a lot of vibe to it, you know, a lot
of No, but either of a flat tax or a
fair tax. I bring those both up, because whenever I
talk about one, I get all these emails and messages saying, no,
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what the other one is the good one? Okay? Well, well,
I just I had a conversation with Ted Cruz years ago.
I'm a saw him in person here in New York
at a at an event. I remember I've talked him
about this. There's oh my gosh, this is like twenty fifteen,
twenty fourteen maybe, and he said, look, we're gonna put
the if. This is when he was thinking about running
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and did run for president. He said, we should have
the tax code be simplified to the point where it's
a page long, and the irs should be just a
very straightforward compliance bureaucracy because everybody knows what they owe.
It's not hard and you can pay your taxes with
a what's the thing you send in the mail that
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is uh? You know you can read it on one side,
the others usually a picture. I'm forgetting what that's called postcard?
Thank you, good job Buck. Buck is good with the
words today on the radio. Yeah. You you could pay
your taxes with a postage card effectively, just you know
here it is boom, or just send in a simple
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check because you could do the math on the back
of a napkin. You know, I made fifty five thousand
dollars last year, I pay you fifteen percent. End of story.
You know, do a calculator, or if you want to
do it old school, like you're back at high school,
do the do the math on a little card and
you send it in instead. I mean, I'm pretty good
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with the reading comprehension I had. I got an extension
on my taxes. I try to readthrow this stuff. I
don't even know what we're talking about here. I just
give it all. Do an accountant and say help me
and tell me. And it's crazy. But why won't libs
give that up? Because the opaque nature of the tax
code and the uh, the the gray areas of it,
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and the size of it creates a lot of room
for social engineering, creates a lot of room for carveouts
for goodies. And this is why you notice every important
bill that comes out of Congress these days, it seems like,
certainly when Democrats are in charge Obamacare, now this um.
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Even when they do can you know, can ing resolutions
and reconciliation bills and all this stuff, it's always five
hundred pages, a thousand pages, fifteen hundred pages, because it's
just a compendium of different interests all slap together. And
then Democrats sell it with a couple of key phrases, Oh,
this will bring down your prescription drug costs. Sound good,
(11:19):
let's do it. Well, hold on, what else does it do?
And doesn't really even do that? They hope that we
don't pay attention. I should check this. I remember hearing
years ago that there was a period in the in
the Roman Republic and this is one of these things.
Maybe it's an urban legend, so let's put this out there,
but I think this actually happened where they would have
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to they had to display laws. You know how, when
you start a limited liability corporation, for example, those there's
still this a lot of places have it. I know
New York does. You have to take out an add
in like a local newspaper, you know, so you take
out an ad to say, you know, Buck's LLC is
now a thing, and it creates a public, verifiable record
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of the existence of this. This is a thing that
you do. Go back to ancient room. They would change laws,
and it was supposed to be on a column, and
they would write what the laws were on this column,
and then increasingly and again. If this is urban legend,
let me know. But the story was that they would
write the laws higher and higher on the column. So
they were writing the laws, but nobody could read them
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unless you wanted to get some kind of a ladder
or something. Nobody could actually see what was being written
in the columns. That is, even if it's just a metaphor,
or if it's just a if it's apocryphal, that is
a story. It's very similar to what our Congress is
doing all the time. Now, who reads these things? Who
reads them? And I'll tell you this, Supreme Court opinions
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they're very long a lot of the time, you know,
not five hundred pages long, but you know a lot
of them are one hundred pages long. There's a lot
of legal lease in there. But if you read the
first usually five pages, even the first two or three pages,
you get a pretty good sense of what's that issue.
You have some ideas to what the decision was and
how it came down. You know, you can get a
basic idea of it. You try to read one of
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these five hundred page bills and you look at this,
You're like, wait, what this is on purpose? Right, that's
what you need to understand. No one who is currently
out there as a Democrat on TV saying this bill
is great, hundreds of billions, it's gonna improve manufacturing, YadA, YadA.
They haven't read this thing. They have no idea, They
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have no idea, and so Joe Mansion's out there trying
to sell it. Meanwhile, in the background, a lot of
people are saying, hold on thousands, tens of thousands of
IRS agents, why are we adding to a bureaucracy that
should be actually phased out with the simplification of the
tax code. It would be enormously beneficial to all of
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us to have a tax code that was very straightforward.
But you know, at LEAs see this, why does New
York have an income tax in flo a dozen. One
state is well governed, the other isn't. That's the question
of who wants to be in charge and who wants
to take stuff from you because they think they'll do
a better job with your money than you will. There's exercise,
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the Reconciliation bill? Well, did you have a deal that
the passage of the Chips bill would not lead to
a bill that this was kind of sprung on you?
There's reconciliation is something done by one party only. There's
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nothing we could have done to prevent the Democrats from
doing a bill that only they will vote for us.
So it's not a question to be played here. What's
the storyline here is that Center manage and had agreed
to something that he had said publicly and privately over
the last two weeks he but never agree to. We're
not involved in reconciliation bill. It won't be a single
Republican vote for it. I think we could do to
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deter it other than to criticize it publicly, and that's
what we're doing right here. So why did Mansion do it?
Go along with it? We've been talking about that. But
I do think it is interesting because here's a guy who,
for the last year or so had really set himself
up as somebody who frustrates the more radical progressive impulses
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of his party, and then at the last moment, he
decides to bail them out from facing the voters under
the reality of the failures of the Biden economic policies
we've all seen so far. Why why do that? As
I've said, I believe it's because he sees advantage for
himself in this. He's not going to win another election
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in West Virginia, and if this goes forward, I can
tell you that I will do what I can to
make sure the people of West Virginia know that this
is not somebody who should be representing them in the Senate.
And then there's the the cinema component of this, and
so far that's lining up exactly as I had anticipated. Yesterday.
She's gonna be a yes, but she's got to play.
(17:10):
Then maybe I want to look at it a little bit,
Maybe I want to add a few things because of
exactly what I was talking to you about just a
few moments ago. They want everybody wants to be able
to just tack on their stuff in the bill that
nobody reads, that becomes law that affects you and me
and the economy. And it's gross, it's gross, five hundred page,
(17:34):
thousand page bills. This should never really happen. I mean,
there's no there's no real justification for this, certainly on
issues when issues like you know, green new Deal, spending whatever,
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Republicans see more jazzed about Speaker Belowsi's trip than the President.
McConnell said, I think it's important from the speaker to
go to Time One. Lindsey Graham said the idea of
her going is a good thing. Chuck Grastley, I'm sure
glad as you went. He's president by just worried about
burning Shan's feelings, And so you're saying because they said that,
(19:24):
then we're not jazz. Yeah. Absolutely, What we are saying
is that we cannot dictate and we will not dictate
where members of Congress skill members of Congress. Let me,
let me, let me finish. Who dictated they go? Now
he can say if he thinks it was good or not.
I mean, that's not how it works. How does it work?
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I want somebody to answer that in the West wing.
Monica Crowley is with us now. She knows how it
works in government at the top level. She's a former
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and host of the Monica
Crowley podcast. Who's you listen to? On? I heard hey Manca.
How you doing, hey Buck, I'm doing great. Thank you
so much for having me back. What do you think
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about this Taiwan visit? I mean, what do you think
about it from a national security perspective, but also economically,
given where we are right now, could be some Chinese retaliation.
What do you make of it all? Yeah, I mean
the sending of her trip here is really interesting. You know,
a lot of times politicians will take these junkets. They'll
go on Kodel's congressional delegations abroad, particularly when they know
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that they will no longer be in office, so they
try to squeeze these trips out of the American taxpayer
in the waning months of their time in quote unquote
public service. So I have a feeling that this is
Pelosi's trip to Asia was part of that. She will
no longer be speaker come January first. She knows that,
and she may in fact retire from Congress, so I
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think she thought of this trip as like her last
big international travel on the taxpayer dime. So that's one
thing from a national security standpoint. Look, you'll recall that
Barack Obama wanted to do a tilt toward Asia away
from Europe, and there is a huge argument to be
made for that Obama and Biden didn't execute that particularly well.
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And Biden is just a strategic mess. I mean, there's
nobody in this administration doing any kind of strategic thinking
in any area of the world. But when specifically, when
it comes to China, you've got an administration that is
wholly compromised by the Chinese Communist Party, the CCP, so
they are number one adversary and we've got a commander,
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a chief Buck that is completely strict up to any
kind of ability to counter the CCP in any kind
of effective way. So for this is Pelosi to go.
You know, it could have been Look, it could have
gone worse, and it could have gone better. It could
have gone worse where the CCP really did what they
threatened to do, which is shooter out of the sky.
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They were never going to do, but the rhetoric was
there versus really do things that would strengthen our allied
relationships in the region with the Philippines, with Japan, with
South Korea. And I didn't see any of that materialized
out of her trip. So it was provocative to the Chinese,
but I am all for that. I think we need
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a far more aggressive strategy towards the CCP economically, geopolitically, culturally, politically,
in every direction. But this trip just sort of seemed
to kind of vanilla in the sense that it didn't
have an effect to one way or the other. Now
the CCP could retaliate, we could see some action. That
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is going to be kind of a delayed response. Remember,
after nine to eleven people in this country were so
infuriated and outraged by the terror attack that they wanted
retaliation immediately against the Taliban and all kinda. It came
several months after once we had only gotten aaract together
to respond in Afghanistan and elsewhere. I think in this case,
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we might see something, and I think buck it's going
to come in an economic form. I don't know how
what kind of shape that will take, but I do
think that the CCP is not going to just allow
this visit to Taiwan just to go unanswered. So we
need to be on standby for, embraced for whatever the
CCP might have planned. Speaking of Monica Crowley, you can
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check out the Monica Crowley podcast on iHeart Monica. You
were in the Treasury Department under Trump, and you were
seeing the kind of decisions that were involved in a
booming economy, in some ways the best economy, and certainly
recent memory, perhaps even distant memory. When you see that
the Democrats are trying to slip through this reconciliation bill
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hundreds of billions in spending, hundreds of billions, and tax increases,
what does this mean to you? We're going to get
ready for We're going to see here in the economy
if it goes through, this is a catastrophic bill. And
I find myself saying that with everything that the Biden
administration and the Democrat Congress has done of the last
what nineteen months, this is an historic catastrophe. And now
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they want to compound the historic catastrophe by spending another
trillion dollars made up of hundreds and hundreds of billions
of dollars in new tax increases, which will affect you
and me. This is going to affect every single American.
It's going to affect every small business. This is not
just about going after the billionaires and the millionaires. They
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like to demonize the wealthy in this country. This is
now going to affect to everybody. They are lying to
you when they say no one making under four hundred
grand a year is going to be affected, That is
a straight up lie. It is going all the way
down the income scale to those making even thirty thousand
dollars a year. So this is what they want. They
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want to put the squeeze on everybody. The critical element
to this, too, is they are going to hire between
seventy five and eighty seven thousand new IRS agents. And
they say they want to do that book for enforcement
to try to squeeze more money out of industries and billionaires.
That is false. They are coming after the place where
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the most money is, and that the American middle class,
and that in small business in this country. So enjoy
your audit, because you will be audited because they've got
to squeeze as much money out of the rest of
us as possible, and in terms of the macro story,
spending another trillion dollars in this kind of inflationary environment book.
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If you think inflation is bad, now, just wait. If
you think the economy is weak, now just wait, because
it's going to take all of these negative economic indicators
that we're all suffering through right now and put it
on steroids. It makes absolutely zerological sense unless you understand
exactly where they're coming from, which is this is about
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the fundamental transformation of the nation. This is about moving
us away from economic freedom and individual liberty and toward
a neo Marxist state. That is what they want. That's
why they are spending this way. They're driving us into oblivion.
They are deliberately torpedoing the US economy. All of this
is by design, So it makes logical sense when you
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know what they're really all about and what they're really
up to here in terms of spending and all of
these policies. Monica Crowley check out our podcast, The Monica
Crowley Podcast on iHeart Monica. Thanks so much, always a pleasure, buck,
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Buck show. As we had mentioned to you, UH Senator
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Rand Paul, he'll be joining us in just a few minutes,
has been leading these congressional hearings focused on gain of
function research. Gain of function research. Now, we were talking
about this much more in the news cycle because there
(29:17):
was the whole where did the Wuhan coronavirus come from? Right?
What was involved here? Initially, social media, as you remember,
was shutting down any talk of the lab leak theory
until it became clear that there was substantial evidence. It
was quite a coincidence that one of the very few
places in the world, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was
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a place where they were actually doing gain of function research,
and that there were some US funding going through a
carve out a third party making its way to that lab. Yeah,
that all of a sudden got a whole lot of attention. Well,
what is gain of function research in the first place?
Kind of regulations exist around it? What do we know
(30:02):
about it. This is something that people should certainly have
a deeper, I think understanding of. So we've had these
congressional hearings dedicated to this started yesterday and Rand Paul
is looking to pass an amendment that would amendum to
(30:22):
the Package of Domestic Semiconductor Manufacturing that would ban all
US funding for gainer function research in China. But Senate
Democrats have objected to this. That's kind of weird, isn't it.
What does gain a function research? Well, here, you don't
listen to me. Here's MIT professor doctor Kevin Esvalt, who
(30:43):
was at this hearing. The question is if they were
not intending to determine whether a novel recombinant event between
these coronaviruses could lead to something that might kill millions
of people, then why were they doing it? If there
was no chance that it would come up with a
result that, like it was more dangerous, what's the point?
What's the scientific hypothesis? So, again, whatever you call it,
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what they were trying to do was identify a biological
agent that has a good chance of being able to
kill millions of people if released. And they shared the
description of what they did, and they shared the genome
sequence because they thought that this would make us safer,
because they think that knowing which viruses in nature might
(31:29):
cause pandemics makes us safer. They did not consider the
security risks, apparently not think about this. You've got scientists
in China deciding that they're going to mess around with
naturally occurring viruses to see, I mean, could this with
just a little bit of a tweak here, a little
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bit of a touch up there, could this virus turn
into something that is the Spanish influenza pandemic, or like
the bubonic plague, which was actually, as we all know,
carried by it was a bacteria that was carried by
the fleas on the backs of rats, particularly among other animals,
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were mostly on rats. Would it be something along those lines,
essentially a global mass killer of humanity pathogen? And they
were tinkering with these things with the idea that, well,
if we know what could be really bad, then we'll
at least have some way of getting ahead of it
if it happens. Without thinking, well, hold on, maybe if
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we tinker we'll make it into the really bad thing
that we were worried about in the first place. MTS
Professor Esvalt continues, and it's worth noting that both USAID
and H funded those particular coronavirus chimera studies. USAID, to
my understanding, has since disavowed those chimeric recombination studies and
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announced that they will only focus on finding natural pandemic
capable viruses, which is at least a step in the
right direction. But again, I would call that Gaina function.
Another reasonable scientists would say, no, that's not Gaina function
because the term is so ill defined. Chimera, my friends,
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so we all know the chimera from ancient Greek mythology.
Which do they even still teach that in schools? They
should dart it. I feel like they probably have A
mythology is amazing. There's a lot of focus on North
mythology these days because everyone's like, oh, Thor he's so cool,
look at his big arms. Norse mythology is good, but
ancient Greek mythology is better. I might get some angry
(33:46):
calls about that one, but I'm just gonna say it.
A Greek mythology is amazing. The reason why the Romans
were like, yeah, that's really cool. We're just gonna take
it and change some of the names because works pretty well.
But the chimera in Greek mythology was a monster with
the head of of a lion, a goat's body, and
a serpent's tail, right, But in in um genetics it
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is an organism composed of the cells of more than
one distinct genotype. In in virology, it would be mixing
a couple of different things with the genome to essentially
create Kimra is a better a better word for it
than a Frankenstein because you know what happens whenever you say, oh, yeah,
people go Frankenstein, wasn't the monster. Frankenstein was the doctor. Yeah,
(34:32):
we all know, okay, but when we say the Frankenstein monster,
we all have you even read it? Actually it is?
It is really good. You want a book recommendation that
I'm pretty sure you can get for free on Kindle
when you downloaded it might be ninety nine cents that
still to this day is phenomenal. Bram Stoker's Dracula amazing
novel to this day. And I know you're saying, oh,
(34:54):
I know the story, and you think of the guy
from the movie, and like the nineteen fourties was like
I won't suck you're blood, Like you know, and then
we get count Chocula and all that stuff. The original
Bram Stoker's Dracula novel. I don't care if you're if
you're sixteen or sixty. Great reading still to this day,
just really really incredible. And I got distracted from gain
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of function research. Let's get back to how this could
basically turn into a WMD situation. This is also from
the hearing Rutgers professor E. Bright Gaina function research and bioweapons.
What's the connection there? I mean, what role does gain
a function play? As I mentioned, there are no civilian
practical applications that are immense bioweapons practical applications. As you've
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heard from doctor Spelt. The potential pandemic pathogens that can
emerge from such studies are potential weapons of mass destruction, inexpensive, accessible,
easily distributed weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction
that actually really just tribute themselves. All they need is
(36:01):
to get out once and then they are self replicating. Right.
You know, you let out poison gas, as scary as
it is VX gas or something. The gas scenaria dissipates
in the atmosphere, you know, horrible, but it's done, you'll
let out one of these things. A chimera virus manipulated
by scientists to find the most dangerous version possible. It
(36:24):
keeps going and going, various iterations of it, even perhaps
even we see it as a virus that could be
aerosol eyes. Friends, we've got Sonar and Rampaul joining us
talk about this and the latest faucia madness and spending
and some other things. As much as we have time
for we will get to. This is Buck on the
(36:45):
clay En Buck Show, coming up with our fury and
just a few stick around
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show gets going right now, give you a
little quick roadmap as to where we are going. Third hour,
we're gonna have fascinating discussion with Senator Rand Paul, the
Good Doctor, about the hearings on Capitol Hill with regard
(00:24):
to gain a function research. And they have a bunch
of experts who have testified saying pretty terrifying stuff about
what can go wrong with gain of function and that
this was being done in some places, notably the Wuhan
Institute of Virology in China, makes it something that we
(00:44):
should certainly focus in on, get to the bottom of,
get some answers about. And also the latest with the
Democrat Reconciliation Bill, they're looking to really create a lot
of jobs, a lot of jobs for IRS agents. Oh yeah,
(01:06):
we're gonna be talking about that here in just a moment.
But you know this Britney Griner situation, she just got
sentence in nine years And you know, it's always funny.
We can tell people we love whenever we get calls
in on any subject, and it's honestly, such an honor
that so many of you listen across the country. You
spend time with us. We hang out together, we learned together,
(01:28):
dive into what matters, have some fun too, and so
I always really appreciate it. But it is funny because
sometimes you hit a topic and all of a sudden,
I can see producer Greg who's working the phones right now,
and he needs about eight hands to just deal with
the lines just light up like a Christmas tree. People
are really fired up about this, and I look, I
will tell you, I think there are There are definitely
(01:50):
nuances here. There's a lot of there's the foreign policy
component of this. How much of this is Russia trying
to make a point against the US. How much of
it is they just want to have leverage in a
negotiation with us? But also, what kind of special treatment
is Britney Grinder getting because she is a famous celebrity.
(02:11):
How much our Democrats focused on this even more because
she's a celebrity female and minority then they would and
say the case of Paul Whaler, there's I understand, there's
a lot of layers here, and we got all the
lines loot up. So I'll take a couple more on
this one to get some of those additional components into
our discussion, and then we'll talk reconciliation. Bill Monica Crowley
(02:33):
also producer Raley about half an hour, right, I should
be with this little less than that. Monica Crowley formerly
the Treasury Department, great analysts of a whole range of things.
All right, let's start here with Mark in Maine. Mark,
you've got some thoughts on this one. Hey, guys, thanks
for taking my call. So you know, I listen to
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a few of your callers in I just I guess
I want to ask them, you know, where's your compassion
for your fellow human being? I think that being okay
with someone being put in prison for nine years for
doing cannabis oil is really really extreme, and it's like,
how do you celebrate freedom in this country and be
okay with someone getting that much time for just you know,
(03:17):
taking a little marijuana and they're not hurting anyone. I mean,
it was point seven grams. My understanding is that that
that's about a teaspoon. And they charged her with transportation
of a quote large scale transportation and significant amount of drugs. Basically,
(03:38):
they hit her with a drug trafficking charge for a
teaspoon's worth of cannabis oil, as if she was going
to sell it to other people in Russia. She was
not going to get rich selling a teaspoon of cannabis
oil in Russia that much, I could assure folks up.
So she was not charged with simple possession. That would
(03:58):
be different, right, She was charged with transportation and the
Russian equivalent of intent to distribute. So does that seem fair?
I mean, I know, is she the Pablo Escobar of
vape pens? I don't think so. So I do believe
that there should be some you know, we need to
keep our heads about this, and not just because the
other side plays politics with everybody all the time. Doesn't
(04:20):
mean that we can't just look at this as an
issue of what is fair and just and say, oh,
the Russian criminal justice system they get determined. I mean,
trust me, you don't want to be an American facing
anything in the Russian criminal justice system. We have Frank
and Colorado also on this one. Frank, what's going on? Yes? Right?
Thank you? Just thinking that the president, Harris and Pelosi
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have already reassured her attorneys that she will be religious.
But it's not going to be before the mid terms,
and right at the midterms that will help them out
the most. Oh, I think that they always like the
time these things for maximumical effect. That's how democrats, That's
how democrats role. And uh, let's do let me see here,
(05:07):
Stephen Florida. Steve, you're you're a order guy. What do
you think, Steve Hey, thanks for taking my call. I mean,
we can debate whether she got charged right or wrong,
but I don't think we should be giving up a
one of the top notorious gun dealers for Brittany Griner.
I mean, I think that's a little Yeah. Did you
(05:29):
hear our interview with President Trump last week where he
just said, look, it's a bad deal. So yeah, you're
not alone on this wheel. I mean, that's that's insane. Yeah,
it looks like that's what I think they're gonna do it.
By the way point they can. Yeah, I mean it
just goes to show you. But you know you look
at thank you for calling in, Steve. I mean, I
remember the Oh gosh, I can't remember the year, and
(05:49):
I'm going into the memory banks now, Producer, Greg, you
take a look at this. I think the Israelis once
traded something like a thousand a thousand Palestinian prisoners for
three Israelis. I think that happened at one point. I'm
maybe my numbers are a little bit off, but disparate trades.
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We value life and justice and decency as a people
and as a government more than the Russian government does.
Just gonna say, I mean, that's I think that's quite obvious.
It was obvious before the invasion and decimation of Ukraine.
It's even more obvious now than it was then. But anyway,
(06:34):
so I wanted to get some more some more voices
in there. Obviously, some folks feel very strongly that, look,
you know, you're you go to Russia, you've got to
be on guard about this. And she did have you know,
they didn't plant it on her. That's not the claim
it's being made, So that would be a whole different thing, right,
But it is a teaspons worth of of cannabis oil.
So yeah, let me see, Yeah that did I was
(06:56):
right about this. Um Israel back in nine eighty five
exchanged a thousand Palestinian prisoners for three Israelis captured during
the nineteen eighty two invasion of Lebanon. So just saying
the stuff does happen. All right, let's get to thank
you all for waited. Let's get to the Democrats. The
reconciliation built one part of this that everybody should be
(07:19):
reminded of. And Ted Cruz was hammering on the Senator
cruise of Texas. They're gonna fund I mean, I look
at this, as You've gotta be kidding me. Eighty seven
thousand IRS agents, eighty seven thousand. Here he is, This
bill funds eighty seven thousand new IRS agents, imagined IRS
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agents descending upon America like a swarm of locusts. And
by the way, these IRS agents aren't there to go
after billionaires. They're there to go after you. They're there
to go after your small business. They're there to go
after your family. The Democrats idea is if they audit
the hell out of every American, think of all the
money they can raise. Now, I gotta say, as I've
(08:01):
traveled Texas, as I've traveled the country, I've heard the
people yearning for a lot of things in America. I've
never once heard someone say what we need is more
IRS agents. I mean, this is big government rona muck
it is. You know, they talk about what's fair in
the tax code. All right, libs, how about this one.
(08:24):
Why don't we have a fair tax or a flair tax?
Combination of a flat at a fair tax, the flair
tax is amazing. Maybe just came up with something that's
a tax that is just got a lot of got
a lot of vibe to it, you know, a lot
of No, but either of a flat tax or a
fair tax. I bring those both up, because whenever I
talk about one, I get all these emails and messages saying, no,
(08:47):
what the other one is the good one? Okay? Well, well,
I just I had a conversation with Ted Cruz years ago.
I'm a saw him in person here in New York
at a at an event. I remember I've talked him
about this. There's oh my gosh, this is like twenty fifteen,
twenty fourteen maybe, and he said, look, we're gonna put
the if. This is when he was thinking about running
(09:07):
and did run for president. He said, we should have
the tax code be simplified to the point where it's
a page long, and the irs should be just a
very straightforward compliance bureaucracy because everybody knows what they owe.
It's not hard and you can pay your taxes with
a what's the thing you send in the mail that
(09:31):
is uh? You know you can read it on one side,
the others usually a picture. I'm forgetting what that's called postcard?
Thank you, good job Buck. Buck is good with the
words today on the radio. Yeah. You you could pay
your taxes with a postage card effectively, just you know
here it is boom, or just send in a simple
(09:52):
check because you could do the math on the back
of a napkin. You know, I made fifty five thousand
dollars last year, I pay you fifteen percent. End of story.
You know, do a calculator, or if you want to
do it old school, like you're back at high school,
do the do the math on a little card and
you send it in instead. I mean, I'm pretty good
(10:14):
with the reading comprehension I had. I got an extension
on my taxes. I try to readthrow this stuff. I
don't even know what we're talking about here. I just
give it all. Do an accountant and say help me
and tell me. And it's crazy. But why won't libs
give that up? Because the opaque nature of the tax
code and the uh, the the gray areas of it,
(10:36):
and the size of it creates a lot of room
for social engineering, creates a lot of room for carveouts
for goodies. And this is why you notice every important
bill that comes out of Congress these days, it seems like,
certainly when Democrats are in charge Obamacare, now this um.
(10:58):
Even when they do can you know, can ing resolutions
and reconciliation bills and all this stuff, it's always five
hundred pages, a thousand pages, fifteen hundred pages, because it's
just a compendium of different interests all slap together. And
then Democrats sell it with a couple of key phrases, Oh,
this will bring down your prescription drug costs. Sound good,
(11:19):
let's do it. Well, hold on, what else does it do?
And doesn't really even do that? They hope that we
don't pay attention. I should check this. I remember hearing
years ago that there was a period in the in
the Roman Republic and this is one of these things.
Maybe it's an urban legend, so let's put this out there,
but I think this actually happened where they would have
(11:41):
to they had to display laws. You know how, when
you start a limited liability corporation, for example, those there's
still this a lot of places have it. I know
New York does. You have to take out an add
in like a local newspaper, you know, so you take
out an ad to say, you know, Buck's LLC is
now a thing, and it creates a public, verifiable record
(12:04):
of the existence of this. This is a thing that
you do. Go back to ancient room. They would change laws,
and it was supposed to be on a column, and
they would write what the laws were on this column,
and then increasingly and again. If this is urban legend,
let me know. But the story was that they would
write the laws higher and higher on the column. So
they were writing the laws, but nobody could read them
(12:24):
unless you wanted to get some kind of a ladder
or something. Nobody could actually see what was being written
in the columns. That is, even if it's just a metaphor,
or if it's just a if it's apocryphal, that is
a story. It's very similar to what our Congress is
doing all the time. Now, who reads these things? Who
reads them? And I'll tell you this, Supreme Court opinions
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they're very long a lot of the time, you know,
not five hundred pages long, but you know a lot
of them are one hundred pages long. There's a lot
of legal lease in there. But if you read the
first usually five pages, even the first two or three pages,
you get a pretty good sense of what's that issue.
You have some ideas to what the decision was and
how it came down. You know, you can get a
basic idea of it. You try to read one of
(13:10):
these five hundred page bills and you look at this,
You're like, wait, what this is on purpose? Right, that's
what you need to understand. No one who is currently
out there as a Democrat on TV saying this bill
is great, hundreds of billions, it's gonna improve manufacturing, YadA, YadA.
They haven't read this thing. They have no idea, They
(13:30):
have no idea, and so Joe Mansion's out there trying
to sell it. Meanwhile, in the background, a lot of
people are saying, hold on thousands, tens of thousands of
IRS agents, why are we adding to a bureaucracy that
should be actually phased out with the simplification of the
tax code. It would be enormously beneficial to all of
(13:52):
us to have a tax code that was very straightforward.
But you know, at LEAs see this, why does New
York have an income tax in flo a dozen. One
state is well governed, the other isn't. That's the question
of who wants to be in charge and who wants
to take stuff from you because they think they'll do
a better job with your money than you will. There's exercise,
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the Reconciliation bill? Well, did you have a deal that
the passage of the Chips bill would not lead to
a bill that this was kind of sprung on you?
There's reconciliation is something done by one party only. There's
(15:40):
nothing we could have done to prevent the Democrats from
doing a bill that only they will vote for us.
So it's not a question to be played here. What's
the storyline here is that Center manage and had agreed
to something that he had said publicly and privately over
the last two weeks he but never agree to. We're
not involved in reconciliation bill. It won't be a single
Republican vote for it. I think we could do to
(16:00):
deter it other than to criticize it publicly, and that's
what we're doing right here. So why did Mansion do it?
Go along with it? We've been talking about that. But
I do think it is interesting because here's a guy who,
for the last year or so had really set himself
up as somebody who frustrates the more radical progressive impulses
(16:26):
of his party, and then at the last moment, he
decides to bail them out from facing the voters under
the reality of the failures of the Biden economic policies
we've all seen so far. Why why do that? As
I've said, I believe it's because he sees advantage for
himself in this. He's not going to win another election
(16:47):
in West Virginia, and if this goes forward, I can
tell you that I will do what I can to
make sure the people of West Virginia know that this
is not somebody who should be representing them in the Senate.
And then there's the the cinema component of this, and
so far that's lining up exactly as I had anticipated. Yesterday.
She's gonna be a yes, but she's got to play.
(17:10):
Then maybe I want to look at it a little bit,
Maybe I want to add a few things because of
exactly what I was talking to you about just a
few moments ago. They want everybody wants to be able
to just tack on their stuff in the bill that
nobody reads, that becomes law that affects you and me
and the economy. And it's gross, it's gross, five hundred page,
(17:34):
thousand page bills. This should never really happen. I mean,
there's no there's no real justification for this, certainly on
issues when issues like you know, green new Deal, spending whatever,
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Republicans see more jazzed about Speaker Belowsi's trip than the President.
McConnell said, I think it's important from the speaker to
go to Time One. Lindsey Graham said the idea of
her going is a good thing. Chuck Grastley, I'm sure
glad as you went. He's president by just worried about
burning Shan's feelings, And so you're saying because they said that,
(19:24):
then we're not jazz. Yeah. Absolutely, What we are saying
is that we cannot dictate and we will not dictate
where members of Congress skill members of Congress. Let me,
let me, let me finish. Who dictated they go? Now
he can say if he thinks it was good or not.
I mean, that's not how it works. How does it work?
(19:48):
I want somebody to answer that in the West wing.
Monica Crowley is with us now. She knows how it
works in government at the top level. She's a former
Assistant Secretary of the Treasury and host of the Monica
Crowley podcast. Who's you listen to? On? I heard hey Manca.
How you doing, hey Buck, I'm doing great. Thank you
so much for having me back. What do you think
(20:08):
about this Taiwan visit? I mean, what do you think
about it from a national security perspective, but also economically,
given where we are right now, could be some Chinese retaliation.
What do you make of it all? Yeah, I mean
the sending of her trip here is really interesting. You know,
a lot of times politicians will take these junkets. They'll
go on Kodel's congressional delegations abroad, particularly when they know
(20:33):
that they will no longer be in office, so they
try to squeeze these trips out of the American taxpayer
in the waning months of their time in quote unquote
public service. So I have a feeling that this is
Pelosi's trip to Asia was part of that. She will
no longer be speaker come January first. She knows that,
and she may in fact retire from Congress, so I
(20:55):
think she thought of this trip as like her last
big international travel on the taxpayer dime. So that's one
thing from a national security standpoint. Look, you'll recall that
Barack Obama wanted to do a tilt toward Asia away
from Europe, and there is a huge argument to be
made for that Obama and Biden didn't execute that particularly well.
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And Biden is just a strategic mess. I mean, there's
nobody in this administration doing any kind of strategic thinking
in any area of the world. But when specifically, when
it comes to China, you've got an administration that is
wholly compromised by the Chinese Communist Party, the CCP, so
they are number one adversary and we've got a commander,
(21:39):
a chief Buck that is completely strict up to any
kind of ability to counter the CCP in any kind
of effective way. So for this is Pelosi to go.
You know, it could have been Look, it could have
gone worse, and it could have gone better. It could
have gone worse where the CCP really did what they
threatened to do, which is shooter out of the sky.
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They were never going to do, but the rhetoric was
there versus really do things that would strengthen our allied
relationships in the region with the Philippines, with Japan, with
South Korea. And I didn't see any of that materialized
out of her trip. So it was provocative to the Chinese,
but I am all for that. I think we need
(22:20):
a far more aggressive strategy towards the CCP economically, geopolitically, culturally, politically,
in every direction. But this trip just sort of seemed
to kind of vanilla in the sense that it didn't
have an effect to one way or the other. Now
the CCP could retaliate, we could see some action. That
(22:42):
is going to be kind of a delayed response. Remember,
after nine to eleven people in this country were so
infuriated and outraged by the terror attack that they wanted
retaliation immediately against the Taliban and all kinda. It came
several months after once we had only gotten aaract together
to respond in Afghanistan and elsewhere. I think in this case,
(23:05):
we might see something, and I think buck it's going
to come in an economic form. I don't know how
what kind of shape that will take, but I do
think that the CCP is not going to just allow
this visit to Taiwan just to go unanswered. So we
need to be on standby for, embraced for whatever the
CCP might have planned. Speaking of Monica Crowley, you can
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check out the Monica Crowley podcast on iHeart Monica. You
were in the Treasury Department under Trump, and you were
seeing the kind of decisions that were involved in a
booming economy, in some ways the best economy, and certainly
recent memory, perhaps even distant memory. When you see that
the Democrats are trying to slip through this reconciliation bill
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hundreds of billions in spending, hundreds of billions, and tax increases,
what does this mean to you? We're going to get
ready for We're going to see here in the economy
if it goes through, this is a catastrophic bill. And
I find myself saying that with everything that the Biden
administration and the Democrat Congress has done of the last
what nineteen months, this is an historic catastrophe. And now
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they want to compound the historic catastrophe by spending another
trillion dollars made up of hundreds and hundreds of billions
of dollars in new tax increases, which will affect you
and me. This is going to affect every single American.
It's going to affect every small business. This is not
just about going after the billionaires and the millionaires. They
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like to demonize the wealthy in this country. This is
now going to affect to everybody. They are lying to
you when they say no one making under four hundred
grand a year is going to be affected, That is
a straight up lie. It is going all the way
down the income scale to those making even thirty thousand
dollars a year. So this is what they want. They
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want to put the squeeze on everybody. The critical element
to this, too, is they are going to hire between
seventy five and eighty seven thousand new IRS agents. And
they say they want to do that book for enforcement
to try to squeeze more money out of industries and billionaires.
That is false. They are coming after the place where
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the most money is, and that the American middle class,
and that in small business in this country. So enjoy
your audit, because you will be audited because they've got
to squeeze as much money out of the rest of
us as possible, and in terms of the macro story,
spending another trillion dollars in this kind of inflationary environment book.
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If you think inflation is bad, now, just wait. If
you think the economy is weak, now just wait, because
it's going to take all of these negative economic indicators
that we're all suffering through right now and put it
on steroids. It makes absolutely zerological sense unless you understand
exactly where they're coming from, which is this is about
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the fundamental transformation of the nation. This is about moving
us away from economic freedom and individual liberty and toward
a neo Marxist state. That is what they want. That's
why they are spending this way. They're driving us into oblivion.
They are deliberately torpedoing the US economy. All of this
is by design, So it makes logical sense when you
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know what they're really all about and what they're really
up to here in terms of spending and all of
these policies. Monica Crowley check out our podcast, The Monica
Crowley Podcast on iHeart Monica. Thanks so much, always a pleasure, buck,
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Buck show. As we had mentioned to you, UH Senator
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Rand Paul, he'll be joining us in just a few minutes,
has been leading these congressional hearings focused on gain of
function research. Gain of function research. Now, we were talking
about this much more in the news cycle because there
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was the whole where did the Wuhan coronavirus come from? Right?
What was involved here? Initially, social media, as you remember,
was shutting down any talk of the lab leak theory
until it became clear that there was substantial evidence. It
was quite a coincidence that one of the very few
places in the world, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was
(29:40):
a place where they were actually doing gain of function research,
and that there were some US funding going through a
carve out a third party making its way to that lab. Yeah,
that all of a sudden got a whole lot of attention. Well,
what is gain of function research in the first place?
Kind of regulations exist around it? What do we know
(30:02):
about it. This is something that people should certainly have
a deeper, I think understanding of. So we've had these
congressional hearings dedicated to this started yesterday and Rand Paul
is looking to pass an amendment that would amendum to
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the Package of Domestic Semiconductor Manufacturing that would ban all
US funding for gainer function research in China. But Senate
Democrats have objected to this. That's kind of weird, isn't it.
What does gain a function research? Well, here, you don't
listen to me. Here's MIT professor doctor Kevin Esvalt, who
(30:43):
was at this hearing. The question is if they were
not intending to determine whether a novel recombinant event between
these coronaviruses could lead to something that might kill millions
of people, then why were they doing it? If there
was no chance that it would come up with a
result that, like it was more dangerous, what's the point?
What's the scientific hypothesis? So, again, whatever you call it,
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what they were trying to do was identify a biological
agent that has a good chance of being able to
kill millions of people if released. And they shared the
description of what they did, and they shared the genome
sequence because they thought that this would make us safer,
because they think that knowing which viruses in nature might
(31:29):
cause pandemics makes us safer. They did not consider the
security risks, apparently not think about this. You've got scientists
in China deciding that they're going to mess around with
naturally occurring viruses to see, I mean, could this with
just a little bit of a tweak here, a little
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bit of a touch up there, could this virus turn
into something that is the Spanish influenza pandemic, or like
the bubonic plague, which was actually, as we all know,
carried by it was a bacteria that was carried by
the fleas on the backs of rats, particularly among other animals,
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were mostly on rats. Would it be something along those lines,
essentially a global mass killer of humanity pathogen? And they
were tinkering with these things with the idea that, well,
if we know what could be really bad, then we'll
at least have some way of getting ahead of it
if it happens. Without thinking, well, hold on, maybe if
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we tinker we'll make it into the really bad thing
that we were worried about in the first place. MTS
Professor Esvalt continues, and it's worth noting that both USAID
and H funded those particular coronavirus chimera studies. USAID, to
my understanding, has since disavowed those chimeric recombination studies and
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announced that they will only focus on finding natural pandemic
capable viruses, which is at least a step in the
right direction. But again, I would call that Gaina function.
Another reasonable scientists would say, no, that's not Gaina function
because the term is so ill defined. Chimera, my friends,
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so we all know the chimera from ancient Greek mythology.
Which do they even still teach that in schools? They
should dart it. I feel like they probably have A
mythology is amazing. There's a lot of focus on North
mythology these days because everyone's like, oh, Thor he's so cool,
look at his big arms. Norse mythology is good, but
ancient Greek mythology is better. I might get some angry
(33:46):
calls about that one, but I'm just gonna say it.
A Greek mythology is amazing. The reason why the Romans
were like, yeah, that's really cool. We're just gonna take
it and change some of the names because works pretty well.
But the chimera in Greek mythology was a monster with
the head of of a lion, a goat's body, and
a serpent's tail, right, But in in um genetics it
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is an organism composed of the cells of more than
one distinct genotype. In in virology, it would be mixing
a couple of different things with the genome to essentially
create Kimra is a better a better word for it
than a Frankenstein because you know what happens whenever you say, oh, yeah,
people go Frankenstein, wasn't the monster. Frankenstein was the doctor. Yeah,
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we all know, okay, but when we say the Frankenstein monster,
we all have you even read it? Actually it is?
It is really good. You want a book recommendation that
I'm pretty sure you can get for free on Kindle
when you downloaded it might be ninety nine cents that
still to this day is phenomenal. Bram Stoker's Dracula amazing
novel to this day. And I know you're saying, oh,
(34:54):
I know the story, and you think of the guy
from the movie, and like the nineteen fourties was like
I won't suck you're blood, Like you know, and then
we get count Chocula and all that stuff. The original
Bram Stoker's Dracula novel. I don't care if you're if
you're sixteen or sixty. Great reading still to this day,
just really really incredible. And I got distracted from gain
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of function research. Let's get back to how this could
basically turn into a WMD situation. This is also from
the hearing Rutgers professor E. Bright Gaina function research and bioweapons.
What's the connection there? I mean, what role does gain
a function play? As I mentioned, there are no civilian
practical applications that are immense bioweapons practical applications. As you've
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heard from doctor Spelt. The potential pandemic pathogens that can
emerge from such studies are potential weapons of mass destruction, inexpensive, accessible,
easily distributed weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass destruction
that actually really just tribute themselves. All they need is
(36:01):
to get out once and then they are self replicating. Right.
You know, you let out poison gas, as scary as
it is VX gas or something. The gas scenaria dissipates
in the atmosphere, you know, horrible, but it's done, you'll
let out one of these things. A chimera virus manipulated
by scientists to find the most dangerous version possible. It
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keeps going and going, various iterations of it, even perhaps
even we see it as a virus that could be
aerosol eyes. Friends, we've got Sonar and Rampaul joining us
talk about this and the latest faucia madness and spending
and some other things. As much as we have time
for we will get to. This is Buck on the
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