November 23, 2022 • 37 mins
Clay and Buck rate their favorite holidays. Where does Thanksgiving rank for each? Is it Kuh-TAR, like guitar? KUH-ter, like cutter? Or KAT-ar? If you’re an English speaker, you’re probably pronouncing Qatar, this year's World Cup host, incorrectly. Alexi Lalas, retired American soccer player, joins C&B live from Qatar at the World Cup, to give updates and highlights. Lalas played in the 1994 FIFA World Cup. C&B take calls from listeners all across the fruited plain.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in final hour before the Thanksgiving festivities begin
in earnest For many of you out there, and certainly
for many of the people working on this show and
also listening all over the country. We are thankful for
all of you, whether you're involved with this show directly
for work, or whether you are listening as maybe you
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are traveling around the country and what is likely to
be the most frenzied Thanksgiving since all the way back
in twenty nineteen, which feels like a very long time ago.
This is the third Thanksgiving we have had since COVID began,
and it feels like even for people with broken brains,
the vast majority of Americans are back to a normal
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Thanksgiving holiday. I just went down during the commercial break
to make sure that my kids had managed to make
it through their Thanksgiving Eve football game without anybody getting
really severely injured or any major fights breaking out. The
Travis Boys managed to stay healthy. Travel back to New
York City. Are your kids old enough fore they played
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tackle football yet? My sixth grader played official tackle football,
but I have mandated that they can only play touch
in the neighborhood because my eight year olds playing two
So if you're fifteen about to be fifteen year olds
tackling the eight year old. That's a recipe. How do
you feel about about about the young Travis boys playing
like high school tackle football. If they want to play,
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they can play. I'm not going to stop him from doing.
Like I said, my sixth grader played first year ever
played flag football before, but this year in middle school
he played tackle football. Now it was against other sixth graders,
but buck, as you well remember, sometimes six and seventh graders,
I should say, the kid who hits puberty is a
monster out there on the field. Right. If you hit
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puberty at twelve or thirteen earlier full puberty than other people,
you got a mustache, you might be six foot tall
out there compared to a lot of other kids they
are like five to four. So that was sometimes an issue,
you know. I at one point my kid said, it's
hard to tackle that kid. He's got a mustache, Dad,
And I was like, well, you know, that's a that's
an argument that you can make when you hit that
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that borderline puberty or non puberty age for the for
the kids, everybody out there who's either played or coached
in that age range knows exactly what I'm talking about. Um,
what was the travel for you? Like, by the way,
you came back from Florida, you're back in New York today.
Was it frenzied at the airports? I understand it's like
kind of crazy everywhere right now. Yeah, I was up.
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I was there at five am. It was already like
long security lines and that's pretty much as and I
was taking the earliest possible flight. So you're gonna see
a lot of that going on. Um, But I do
think now people are really everybody who I think everybody
who is going to think normally about traveling in the
era of post COVID America, I think they're there. Maybe
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some people will start to chill out a little bit
going forward, but look, it's it's good because we really
haven't had even last Thanksgiving. Last Thanksgiving wasn't a normal Thanksgiving, folks.
We all remember there was the you know, the pen
the Winner of Death and all this stuff, and the
Biden administration was hammering on how you better get the shot,
and they had pushed the vaccine mandate and there were
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vaccine cards of people. Those vaccine cards the dumbest thing
people will look back historians will look back and they'll
be like, wait, you did care a little piece of
paper that says you've got a shot, that doesn't even
stop you from giving the virus to other people any
like what it was this all about? But it felt
pretty normal today out there traveling airline attendants did have
masks on. However, in my flight, the attendants really, yeah,
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I remember those, some of those Siberian prison guards. I
remember what they were like, thirty five thousand feet in
the sky. I have not forgotten. I have not forgiven.
I'm concerned. You mentioned earlier in the show that this
is crazy that kids going back to public school in Washington,
DC have to have a negative COVID test in order
to return to school. And yesterday we played you the
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audio of doctor Fauci saying you should take a COVID
test before you go to your Thanksgiving dinner, and doctor
joh led and said, if you get the COVID booster,
you won't die of COVID. Then Washington Post Today, to
their credit, has an article up saying, actually, nearly sixty
percent of people dying with COVID have had either the
shots or COVID boosters. But I'm concerned you know when
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you look at Los Angeles and they're talking about bringing
mass back, that a lot of you out there listening
to us in blue cities, even if you're in a
red state, may have things to worry about if the
numbers start to tick up on COVID. And certainly what
we're seeing, unfortunately buck especially for young kids, is a
lot of them were so isolated from other kids that
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they didn't get the usual viruses and illnesses that young kids.
I mean, that's a phrase snot knows kid for a reason.
There's almost always if you've got young kids, a little
cold or a little virus that they're working through to
develop their immune systems. And unfortunately, what you're seeing so
far this early part as we moved towards the wind
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is a lot of those kids are getting RSV or
they're getting the flu. And that's actually more dangerous unfortunately
to truly young children than COVID has been. And the
way we treated them for COVID made them more likely
to get them more serious illness. And there's now been
a run on a bunch of medications and abiotics for children.
I think they're they're even starting to report on a
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shortage of children's tail and all. If I saw that, right,
I saw that. I saw Megan McCain tweet that out
earlier today that it's hard to find this is I'll
just note if we do have a really bad upper
respiratory virus season that affects children and so across the
board now flu and RSV and COVID, all these things.
They're not gonna want to tell you this until next summer,
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but eventually it will come out that not allowing children
to live normal lives and be exposed to the normal
upper respiratory infections that they come into contact with on
a regular basis made them effectively short term immunocompromise. I mean,
I do believe that will have eventually come out, not
not immunocompromise in a severe way, but that they just
didn't have immunity against some of these things. So they're
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getting hit particularly hard because of the way that we
separated children, didn't let them live their lives, kept them away.
You know, we gotta remember there are some people we
don't hear about this anymore. There's some people who don't
let their kids see other kids for two years, two years,
you know, and they happen to live in you know,
New York, dcla few other places. But they were keeping
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the kids locked away, almost like they're trying to have
them live in a bubble. And they were the same
people who took pictures of their kids getting COVID shots
that were completely worthless and put it on social media
to be social justice warriors and brag about about that.
I gotta correct something I said earlier in the show,
Buck And this is maybe a major, major flaw in
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our holiday power rankings. Neither one of us ranked New
Year's Eve. Oh I am anti New Year's Eve. So
you considered and rejected ranking, sir, sir, we have a
whole conversation. New Year's Eve is the most stressful, overrated,
annoying holiday. I will take National Pancake Day over New
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Year's Eve. I will find, like you know, those random
holidays that they make. You're saying this, though, even this
surprises me because you've been a single guy for a
long time, so you could theoretically have celebrated New Year's Eve.
Now for parents like me, I'm at that day. I've
been in several different years where I've been like, hey,
let me try to trick my kids will watch the
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New Year's ball drop from Times Square on the Eastern
time zone, and I can get my kids to go
to bed earlier. Let me tell you a little little
little dispatches from recently. You know, single man life now
engaged obviously, so I'm out of it. I'm out of
that game, thank god. But what it used to be
like every year for my you know, adult life eighteen
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to thirty nine. You know, it's New Year's Eve, Okay,
you know, how do we make this the most amazing
night ever? And then you go out and ever get
super drunk to try to go to as many parties
they can, and it's never really what you wanted to be.
Then you get a little older, rights that's in your twenties,
maybe into your thirties, it's like, oh, there's all these parties,
and go to all these parties and you know you're
gonna have that moment where like you meet the beautiful stranger,
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you make out at midnight, and you get married and
have five beautiful kids. It doesn't work that way. Everyone's like,
I'm so drunk, you know, they're all like stumbling over
each other. There's always someone who's yelling like I'm stuck
in line, I can't get in, and everyone's all upset.
It's a total mess. And then you get a little
older and you're like, you know what, I'm not really
gonna do this New Year's Eve thing anymore. I'm not
really gonna do it. And then about three weeks before
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it's New Year's Eve, maybe a month before, people start
texting you, hey, we're gonna do something right, and the
peer pressure start. It's getting ratcheted up. You try to
opt out, it gets ratcheted up, and then all of
a sudden you're like, Okay, well, I guess I'll go
to you know, that super expensive restaurant where they're gonna
give me a prefixed menu with the worst cheapest food
they have and the worst service imaginable, and they're gonna
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usher us in like cattle and usher us out in
scheduled seating, and the restaurant could care less about the
whole thing. And you're in for like I mean, in
New York City, Clay, a crappy restaurant's gonna cost you
two hundred dollars on New Year's Eve. For person, I mean,
you go to like a hotel in Miami. I've been
in Miami last few New Year's Eves. You go to
like a place that's just okay, five hundred bucks a
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person on New Year's Eve. It's crazy. I hate it.
It's a great night for restaurants. I would argue with
you that New Year's Eve heading into New Year's itself,
and I'm curious if you would agree with this number
one night for women to be dressed up in fancy dresses,
ready to go out have a great time that ends
with them crying. I can't tell you the number of times.
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I can't tell you, buck the number of times that
I have either been with or been out on New
Year's Eve. Everybody's at a great food, especially if you're
singlehook who look like they're at their their prom or
something that they're they're sitting outside of the booming music
at Somebow's Eve party and the mascara right like, I
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just don't understand why he doesn't do that. It is.
It is the number one night for girls to cry
about their boyfriends or their significant others, or the guy
that they thought was gonna be their boyfriend that it
didn't work out. I can't tell you the number of
times they're often you know, they got the fancy shoes
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that they're just done with, they got them in their hand.
To your point, mascara running down the cheeks, fancy dressed
and the heels broken on the shoes, so they're walking
around barefooting. Hair is a wreck. It inevitably starts to rain.
It is like the number one night for so for
single women tears. There's not even a close second. So like,
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how are you not you're coming over to my side
on this with chief, which is New Yar's Eve is
the worst holid? Well, no, I was. I mean I
was thinking I didn't even think about New Year's Eve
in my rankings, but I was like, I thought maybe you,
as a long term single guy might have it in
your top five. No, no, no, it's it's very Uh,
it's it's not good. And honestly, if there's one you know,
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if there's one person you wanted to the midnight kiss with,
you know you just want to hang out with that person,
You're gonna wait till midnight. So why are you going
to some big party? I think the whole thing is
it's a scam. I don't know if it was made
up to sell Hallmark cards or something. Someone tell me
what the conspiracy is behind it. But I think New
Year's Eve is a scam and a half. And look,
how do you have a great New Year's Eve? Hang
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out with the people that you like the most, your family,
your friends, whatever, in a mellow setting. Maybe have a
glass of champagna or you know, a glass of whiskey
or something, have a good meal, watch the ball drop
on TV, and go great. Tomorrow's January first, let's get
after it. Will I will tell a lot of guys
out there listening, and some women as well. The college
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football playoff games are on New Year's Eve tonight this year,
so on December thirty first, starting about four o'clock Eastern,
all the way up through the official New Year there.
Right now, I've got guys panicked right now because they
hadn't done the math in their head, and they got
wives or they got girlfriends, and they were supposed to
plan something and now all they want to do is
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just sit back, have a couple of beers, watch college
football playoff direct overlap with New Year's Eve. But they
tried to brand this when they expand into the four
team college football Playoff, they said, hey, we're going to
make New Year's Eve synonymous with college football biggest disaster
schedule ever because what they didn't realize was a lot
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of people have big plans and they created I think
more fights are relating to sports over these games going
on head to head than they ever contemplated with my
My thing is, I do love eating out and I
love going that. That's my way of experiencing different you know,
cities and towns all across America. I just want to
what's the best food they've got here? So I love
going out to eat. And New Year's Eve is literally
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the worst night of the year to go out to eat.
It is the worst night. You were getting everything they're
they're doing everywhere as a prefix met I never want
a prefix menu. I'm gonna restaurant. If I was going
to prepare and only have one different way to one
set of food, I would do it at home. They
triple charge you in most places, So for eating out,
it's the worst night. And it's just amateur night, man.
You know. It's like the best nights you have are
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the ones you're not trying to have the best night,
And New Year's Eve it concentrates all that. Oh what
you do what are you gonna do on New Year's Eve?
Go to sleep early, wake up the next day, and
just keep living my life. I think that's why all
the girls buck end up crying outside, because they built
it up into a momentous occasion and instead whatever douchebag
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guy they're dating that they thought was going to be
the man of their dreams proves that he's a douchebag,
and they're just like, why did I ever think that
this was? You know, a lot of people think they're
gonna get They think that the prosals gonna happen at
midnight and the resolution whatever, and you know the guys, actually,
you know seven fireballs in watching Clay's favorite SEC football
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Play Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up, but win for
Team Reality. So I've been watching some of the World
Cup in Qatar, which is the way every would say
it now, So I guess I say it that way too.
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People also say cutter, gutter. There's a whole bunch of ways.
But Qatar, we'll have Alexei Lawless of the US men's
national team. He's a sports commentator, joining US the human
from Cutter to talk to Qatar, talk to us about
what's going on there. I have watched it, Clay, and
I obviously was low heartbroken by whales. But it's a
good It's been a good day in Saudi Arabia recently,
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a good day in Japan recently, so submission happening there.
We'll get into all that in just a moment. I
do think it is fun. Soccer is the only sport
where after every foul, it's it's like as theatrical as
what you would see in an opera or something. They're
like rolling around and then the faces and it's like
oh oh, oh, you know the guys the Italian team,
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like he kick them in of the shins. You know,
you're like, okay, I mean playing soccer, buddy, here would
come down. Many of these guys would never be able
to stand again. And then they would come out for
a while with that spray whatever that spray is they
put on, and then they miraculously recover. I love when
they carry them off on the stretcher to the side
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and then they miraculously get back up and run back
out of the sacle. Oh like I got cleted in
the calf and now I'll never walk into calm Down,
com down. But I just realized I've made a little
Italy joked there. Italy is not even in one of
the great soccer play They didn't make the World Cup
this year. It's true, one of the great soccer powerhouses
of all time. Greg in Houston, Texas has some New
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Year's Eve thoughts for us, even though it's Thanksgiving. I
guess we're gonna dive into New Year's Eve. What's up? Greg? Yes, sir,
you know, I'm sixty five, I'm retired, and I feel
exactly the same way as you guys do about New
Year's Eve. You know it is worthless, But forty years ago,
nineteen eighty two, it turned out to be the best
day of my life. My love life was in a rut,
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and I met my wife at his small New Year's
E party and we dated for about four years. What
was your Did you speak to her first? Do you
remember what you're opening? Yeah? Did you guys? Did you
guys smooch at midnight? Give us the details here, Greg, No,
My confidence was just in a rut. And I looked
at her and I said, oh, too good looking, too good?
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She actually had to come to me. Oh so you
got approached. Good for you. I will tell twenty years later. Boom,
my mom approached my dad at a cocktail party. That's
how they met. Missus Sexton approached mister Sexton. Oh yeah,
he had good hair. I respect the game. Be good
ballsy from your mom there. No, I pretty much have
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to approach everybody. Um day to the mister and missus
Clay Travis story about how you guys met. But right
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Fleet Travis and buck Sexton on the front lines of
Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Thanksgiving Eve.
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We are headed now down to Qatar. I believe I'm
pronouncing that correctly, or at least as the pronunciation has
been agreed to to be joined by Fox Soccer analyst
Alexei Lawless. They are eight hours ahead of us. It
is almost Thanksgiving Day, I guess in Qatar and Alexei,
first of all, thanks for making the time for us.
I know it's an absolute crazy zoo over there with
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all the games going on, and I want to start
with this question. US is up one zero when you
see the play. As a former defenseman for the US
men's soccer team, when you see the play of Walker
Zimmerman and the foul that he committed that led to
a penalty kick. Your immediate reaction was to say, or think,
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what well, something I can't say on the radio because
I am an ADVID listener to your show and I
know you have a level of decorum here. By the way,
I do I subscribe. I listened to it every day
this morning on the peloton here in the hotel in Qatar,
in Dohak. Here, I was listening to the show. So
I am a huge fan of both you guys and
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of this show. When I saw that, I was disappointed,
I was angry. Um And you know I pictured I
pictured myself on the field, and look, mistakes happen in sports,
mistakes happens in life, and it's how you recover from them.
So ultimately, the US ties Whales won one. And you know,
I know that Buck was having some fun at Wales' expense.
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You know, Bucks should know that. I mean, it's kind
of come on, it's kind of fair, Like how many
people even know that Whales is its own country. Well,
I understand that, I understand that, but you know, they
they they are a small country, but they are a
hearty country. And and look, I agree with you, the
US should have eaten whales, and so you're dropping point there.
And in the way that had happened with Walker's imerman
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making that what amounts to a stupid foul, and it
shouldn't be done at any level, especially for a professional
and it's big in a World Cup. However, there's a
couple of games to play here, including this huge one
on Black Friday against against England, our friends England, so
there is plenty to play for when it comes to
the World Cup. And whether you're into soccer or whether
you're not into soccer, this is an opportunity to sit
down and celebrate what I feel is the greatest country
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in the world. There's a very few things in our
life and our world today that bring us together, and
maybe soccer is one of them. So Alexei, so I'm
gonna put this out there just in all fairness, right,
it's not looking good for our guys on Friday. I'm
just I know enough about soccer, mostly from playing FIFA
on PlayStation, but I know enough about the English teams
rankings and the American teams rankings. It's not looking great
for us. But you know, we did win in seventeen
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seventy six, so we got that going for us, which
is nice. Iran, though we're gonna be playing Iran, tell
me as somebody who knows this US national team inside
and now, I don't care if we are playing Iran
in in shuffleboard, if we're playing Iran in Tiddley wings,
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you name it. America has to win. Are we going
to win that match? Well, you're going to have to
win in order to advance. So you're absolutely right, Buck,
this is going to be a huge game. And look
at you, as you know, sports sometimes mirrors culture and
society and politics and all those different things, and all
of that is going to be on display with Iran,
which we have a long history from. Look I grew
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up in the seventies and eighties and what Iran represented
to America and to Americans, and so that will be
part of the narrative. Ultimately, there's three points. So and
to your point, it doesn't matter whether there's men's, women's,
co ed naked. If we're playing Iran, I want to win,
and we need to win this game in order to
go on. I think because to your point, who knows
what's going to happen against England. They are a better team.
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Doesn't mean that US can't get a point or get
a win over there. I believe that this is a
good US team that can do some big things, and
this would be huge if they would be able to
beat England. But no matter what, that third game you're
going to have to beat around. Okay, So that's what
a lot of people out there who they don't if
they don't follow this closely. We've got England, Wales, the
United States, and Iran in a group, and if we
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had beaten Wales, we would have been an incredible shape
to advance, because two teams advance. Do you see this
coming down to gold differential, in which case we're going
to be watching on Friday, everybody recovering from Thanksgiving meals,
kicking the feed up watching. Do you feel like, even
if we lose to England, it's desperately important to keep
it close because gold differential may well decide who advances
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to the knockout round yours, Yeah, you're absolutely right, it
is important that we keep it close. But I do
feel that this has the opportunity in the makings of
something historic, and I know it's it's not a shirt,
but this is a this is a young team. It's
the second youngest team in the tournament. I think they
have a not just a responsibility that they feel, but
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also an opportunity to do some big things and to
get whether it's people like yourselves or anybody else is
listening out there, to at least step into the soccer
ten because once you get in there, it's warm, it
is welcoming. And guess what it is American. We do
have an American soccer culture. It is vibrant, it is passionate,
is discerning, it is growing, and don't you dare apologize
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for it because it is something that's very very special
and unique in the soccer world out there. But that
has to come out and manifest on the play on
the field, especially when it comes to our men's team.
Our women's team they kick ass, as we know, and
win all the time. The men's team has to step up.
And this would be a huge, huge moment in this
World Cup if they were able to get that result
against England on Black Friday and then parlay that into
a great result against Iran and get out of the group.
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So we're speaking to Alexi lalas Fox Soccer analyst and
also a man who really popularized the bright red goatee
of the nineteen nineties. If I recall, wasn't that you?
I remember this man, you know rocking that got was
like that was like a ten out of ten. Gote
you were not messing around. I feel like I've seen
you on TV. It's not there anymore. How are things out?
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And cutter man? How's our Qatar? How's it going? You're
actually in country right now? There's been you know, some
new stories about there was like a beer band, but
not really. But how how is it doing a World
Cup there? I can I can assure you that I
have never once in the now a couple of weeks
that I've been here, nor are the other previous trips
that I've taken, had a problem finding alcohol. Uh, people
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believe me sometime. That doesn't surprise me at all going forward. Yeah,
but it is it is a we have we have
this kick ass set when it comes to our Fox
Soccer set here down at what's called the Corniche, which
is down on the water. The people here have been incredible.
It is a really really interesting, like you said, world
Cup in that there's this brigadoonish type of experience where
everybody is in the same place, nobody travels anywhere, all
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the teams, all the stadiums are here and we're gonna
We're gonna blow it out on Fox. And we have
this incredible set here that has multiple levels and multiple stages,
and people come to it like it is part of
the star of the showdown here, and it just augments
all of the cover that we are bringing. And part
of our job is not just to talk about the soccer,
but to talk about this country and this culture and
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to make that part of the storytelling that we're doing.
Am I understanding by the way, I want all of
you to watch the US and Alexei and Stu and
all the crew that's out there, Jenny Taft, fantastic job
they're doing. But also I will be up in Columbus
for this Ohio State Michigan game, which is going to
be huge, and my understanding, as a part of our
pregame show, we're actually going to be integrating some of
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you guys. Sin's my understanding. It might not be a
one hundred percent accurate as a part of the World
Cup to have you guys talking college football and maybe
a little bit of NFL. Also, so for people out there,
Alexei who don't know this US men's soccer team, you
mentioned how young they are. You played in the World
Cup back in nineteen ninety two in the United States,
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the first time that you play in a World Cup
match as a young guy. It feels like what first
part of the question, second aspect here, how much more
comfortable and better did you play in game two? Having
just gotten the butterflies in some extent out in that
first ever World Cup match? Yeah? I mean, look, would
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you realize a dream? There is a moment of ah,
and the sooner you get over it, the better off
you are going to be when you recognize it's the
game that you're playing, been played playing all along. Mine
was way back in the nineteen hundreds before you guys
were born, back in nineteen ninety four, summer ninety four.
Like you said, Buck, a lot of hair. Never has
so much been done with the monoicum of talent and
a lot of hair, whether it was the goatie or
the hair on top of my head. I wish I
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could still grow it. I've cleaned up on the outside,
but I'm still a mess on the inside. But then
you walk out on that field. And in my case,
at that point, it was actually in Pontiac at the
Pontiac silverdam Rest in Peace, the Pontiac Silverdome. I grew
up in Detroit, so fifteen minutes outside of where I
grew up, walking on that field and realizing a dream.
Now this US team has already done that, right, so
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now they understand what the World Cup is. Now on Friday,
when they walk out against against England, it's not just
with the realization that they're representing their their country, but
it's also with the understanding that there's there's a competition
here and you got to figure it out very very
quickly against a very very good team. But look, there's
nothing like it when you walk out on that field,
when you put your hand over your heart, you put
that shirt on, you sing that song for me, there
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is nothing else, nothing else like it. And if I could,
I would, I would do anything to get back in
all right, Alexi Lawless of Fox Soccer and Alexei, let's
hope that us first of all, have a happy Thanksgiving
out there. I know you're abroad right now, and it
pass along the same for us to all the American
players out there. We're thinking about them and we appreciate
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you joining us. And let's hope we got a w
on Friday. I will actually watch this. This sports competition awesome.
I love it. I love it. I love what you
guys to do it so I do. So keep on
doing it and make sure that you give me something
for what I'm on the peloton sweating my ass off. Absolutely, sir,
thank you so much. Let's play. Alexei is a fantastic guy. Buck.
I told you he listens to the show and he's
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a great American soccer here. I remember because I was
planning soccer in high school back back when he was
on that national team or right around then, and he
was one of the first guys I think, to really
popularize the US men's national team of that era. You know,
just he was a well known guy as men's soccer
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was becoming more of a thing here. You know, this
is really I think that was even pre MLS, or
maybe the MLS had just gotten going. I think the
MLS built out and I think I said ninety two
was ninety four. That was the launching point, that's right.
The MLS was the amount of attention that we had hosting.
And remember we're hosting to a large extent the World
Cup in twenty six which is why I would ever
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experience these guys get now hopefully could translate four years
from now when we hosted basically in the United States
North America does. Yeah. But you know that Argentinian team,
which is supposed to be one of the best in
the world, they got caught flat footed, folks. They were
a little slow in the third fourth quarter and Saudi
Arabia b them. So I know it would be international
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shipping clay, but maybe we could get them a little
bit of a boost, a little bit of extra energy
to help push them. Very well played in the final
quarters of their match, so they wouldn't lose to Saudi Arabia,
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Buck before your Thanksgiving. We are so appreciative of a
all of you listening, tuning in, getting to hang with you.
Even had a guest call in from the other side
of the planet with Alexei Lallis giving us a ring
from Cutter. Great, great guy. I appreciate him making the
time for us because you know, you look, America is
on the world stage here. Whether you like soccer or not,
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America is on the world stage. And I actually do
like soccer a bit, as does Clay. So it's gonna
be interesting to see what happens on Friday. We have
something cool to tell you about. It's a great weekend
for it as well. We have a new podcast that
will be dropping and it will be going up this weekend.
It's like a hang with Clay and Buck and we're
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Sundays with Clay and Bucks actually called you can find
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If you're listening to the show now, you're like, oh,
what is this? Well, we're pulling together hang time and
we want to do more and more special stuff as
well going forward. And I'm gonna be in on Friday
so we can talk about the best Black Friday deals
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and stuff like that. Clay is going to be doing
family time and some sports watching. So I'll be in
Columbus actually for this big Michigan Ohio State game. So
I'm traveling to Columbus, Ohio. I hope to see many
of our listeners. I think we're number one, or have
been at different times in Columbus, in Cleveland and at Cincinnati,
so that our extended radio family time is what you'll
(33:17):
be spending time with there, so you'll be seeing some
of them. Who is So it's Ohio State Michigan Is
that right? Yeah? The biggest game probably right up there.
This year Tennessee Georgia was a big game one versus two,
one versus one depending on how you look at the rankings.
And Michigan is third, Ohio State is second. Whoever wins
is going to probably win the Big Ten and go
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to the playoffs. I just think when you stack up
that Michigan offense against the Ohio defense, it's likely that
the better team will win. You got to say, Ohio State,
they're gonna be They're gonna be fired up that you
call them Ohio Oh Wait, isn't that? Is that not
the same thing. There's a university, there's Ohio which is
like the University of Ohio, and then there's Ohio State.
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Ohio State is the big I gotta get this stuff
right or else the fraternity brothers where we go visit
will be throwing those red solo cups full of their
pungent juice at me. So yeah, lots lots of high
end alcohol consumption I imagine going to be going on
in Columbus. So I'm excited for that game. But I'm
also excited. I mean, look, a lot of people are
gonna be on Friday. You got kids running around, you
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got family members, you pop on the television, and if
the US can keep it close against England, I think
it gonna be a pretty enjoyable game. And obviously a
lot of people watch NFL on Thursday and then college
football Saturday. It's a good weekend. We were talking about
this because soccer is a funny game and that you
can if someone dominates a basketball game, meaning they're just
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scoring a lot of points throughout. There's no huge surprises.
There can be momentum shifts and a team can come back,
but you can dominate a soccer game. You could have
you know, fifteen shots on goal, seventy percent of the
possession and loose because you didn't actually put it in
the net and they got one time. So you know,
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that's that's basically my way of saying, maybe America gets
a miracle here, like not quite beating the Soviets in hockey,
but you know, back in the day, but close to it,
it's easier to pull off upsets. To your point, you
said earlier, Saudi Arabia Beatum Argentine totally unexpected, and today
Germany lost to Japan. Nobody would have foreseen either of
those outcomes. So maybe fingers crossed the US on Friday
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can do something against England. Shelley in Las Vegas, Nevada
has some thoughts for us. What's up, Shelley, Hi? How
are you? I just want to tell you just rethink
New Year's Eve because New Year's Eve is my birthday. Well,
happy birthday. It advanced, Shelley. Now now I do like
it a little bit more. All right, see now, and
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I live in Las Vegas, where they're always celebrating, so
so yeah, times I feel left out that, Hey, why
isn't somebody celebrating my birthday? But the whole world celebrates
my birthday? You know, Shelley, I'll just tell you. I can,
I can? I can? I hear you on this one
because my fiance's birthday is Christmas, so she has to
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share her birthday with Baby Jesus, which can kind of
be that's tough. I mean, you know, I love my
care bear, but baby Jesus is a big deal, so
tough combo for kids. Yeah, Rick in North Carolina, I
think this is our salmon expert. I was trying to say,
all salmon tastes the same, Rick, Am I totally crazy
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over this? Yeah? Well, a couple of things. I initially
called on the calorie content of food because I was
with you on the stake thing, and I can give
you the science on that one, but you totally lost me.
On the pancakes with the butter in the syrup. Yep,
there's no way that's that's low calorie. But all right,
I do what about my argument though about salmon all
tasting kind of the same even at the fanciest place.
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I'm a commercial salmon fishing tender in Alaska, so there's
five different types of salmon that that we catch up there.
And you don't want to get farmed raised. There's farmed
raised in wild salmon. And I challenge you to this,
Go buy a piece of stocky salmon from wild Alaskan
stokey salmon, and buy a piece of farm raised salmon
and cook them exactly the same way. And I think,
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all right, I will check that out. I'll try that
and have a happy Thanksgiving. From CLAYM. Buck Amen play
Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of a
truth
Welcome back in final hour before the Thanksgiving festivities begin
in earnest For many of you out there, and certainly
for many of the people working on this show and
also listening all over the country. We are thankful for
all of you, whether you're involved with this show directly
for work, or whether you are listening as maybe you
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are traveling around the country and what is likely to
be the most frenzied Thanksgiving since all the way back
in twenty nineteen, which feels like a very long time ago.
This is the third Thanksgiving we have had since COVID began,
and it feels like even for people with broken brains,
the vast majority of Americans are back to a normal
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Thanksgiving holiday. I just went down during the commercial break
to make sure that my kids had managed to make
it through their Thanksgiving Eve football game without anybody getting
really severely injured or any major fights breaking out. The
Travis Boys managed to stay healthy. Travel back to New
York City. Are your kids old enough fore they played
(01:03):
tackle football yet? My sixth grader played official tackle football,
but I have mandated that they can only play touch
in the neighborhood because my eight year olds playing two
So if you're fifteen about to be fifteen year olds
tackling the eight year old. That's a recipe. How do
you feel about about about the young Travis boys playing
like high school tackle football. If they want to play,
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they can play. I'm not going to stop him from doing.
Like I said, my sixth grader played first year ever
played flag football before, but this year in middle school
he played tackle football. Now it was against other sixth graders,
but buck, as you well remember, sometimes six and seventh graders,
I should say, the kid who hits puberty is a
monster out there on the field. Right. If you hit
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puberty at twelve or thirteen earlier full puberty than other people,
you got a mustache, you might be six foot tall
out there compared to a lot of other kids they
are like five to four. So that was sometimes an issue,
you know. I at one point my kid said, it's
hard to tackle that kid. He's got a mustache, Dad,
And I was like, well, you know, that's a that's
an argument that you can make when you hit that
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that borderline puberty or non puberty age for the for
the kids, everybody out there who's either played or coached
in that age range knows exactly what I'm talking about. Um,
what was the travel for you? Like, by the way,
you came back from Florida, you're back in New York today.
Was it frenzied at the airports? I understand it's like
kind of crazy everywhere right now. Yeah, I was up.
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I was there at five am. It was already like
long security lines and that's pretty much as and I
was taking the earliest possible flight. So you're gonna see
a lot of that going on. Um, But I do
think now people are really everybody who I think everybody
who is going to think normally about traveling in the
era of post COVID America, I think they're there. Maybe
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some people will start to chill out a little bit
going forward, but look, it's it's good because we really
haven't had even last Thanksgiving. Last Thanksgiving wasn't a normal Thanksgiving, folks.
We all remember there was the you know, the pen
the Winner of Death and all this stuff, and the
Biden administration was hammering on how you better get the shot,
and they had pushed the vaccine mandate and there were
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vaccine cards of people. Those vaccine cards the dumbest thing
people will look back historians will look back and they'll
be like, wait, you did care a little piece of
paper that says you've got a shot, that doesn't even
stop you from giving the virus to other people any
like what it was this all about? But it felt
pretty normal today out there traveling airline attendants did have
masks on. However, in my flight, the attendants really, yeah,
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I remember those, some of those Siberian prison guards. I
remember what they were like, thirty five thousand feet in
the sky. I have not forgotten. I have not forgiven.
I'm concerned. You mentioned earlier in the show that this
is crazy that kids going back to public school in Washington,
DC have to have a negative COVID test in order
to return to school. And yesterday we played you the
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audio of doctor Fauci saying you should take a COVID
test before you go to your Thanksgiving dinner, and doctor
joh led and said, if you get the COVID booster,
you won't die of COVID. Then Washington Post Today, to
their credit, has an article up saying, actually, nearly sixty
percent of people dying with COVID have had either the
shots or COVID boosters. But I'm concerned you know when
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you look at Los Angeles and they're talking about bringing
mass back, that a lot of you out there listening
to us in blue cities, even if you're in a
red state, may have things to worry about if the
numbers start to tick up on COVID. And certainly what
we're seeing, unfortunately buck especially for young kids, is a
lot of them were so isolated from other kids that
(04:40):
they didn't get the usual viruses and illnesses that young kids.
I mean, that's a phrase snot knows kid for a reason.
There's almost always if you've got young kids, a little
cold or a little virus that they're working through to
develop their immune systems. And unfortunately, what you're seeing so
far this early part as we moved towards the wind
(05:00):
is a lot of those kids are getting RSV or
they're getting the flu. And that's actually more dangerous unfortunately
to truly young children than COVID has been. And the
way we treated them for COVID made them more likely
to get them more serious illness. And there's now been
a run on a bunch of medications and abiotics for children.
I think they're they're even starting to report on a
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shortage of children's tail and all. If I saw that, right,
I saw that. I saw Megan McCain tweet that out
earlier today that it's hard to find this is I'll
just note if we do have a really bad upper
respiratory virus season that affects children and so across the
board now flu and RSV and COVID, all these things.
They're not gonna want to tell you this until next summer,
(05:44):
but eventually it will come out that not allowing children
to live normal lives and be exposed to the normal
upper respiratory infections that they come into contact with on
a regular basis made them effectively short term immunocompromise. I mean,
I do believe that will have eventually come out, not
not immunocompromise in a severe way, but that they just
didn't have immunity against some of these things. So they're
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getting hit particularly hard because of the way that we
separated children, didn't let them live their lives, kept them away.
You know, we gotta remember there are some people we
don't hear about this anymore. There's some people who don't
let their kids see other kids for two years, two years,
you know, and they happen to live in you know,
New York, dcla few other places. But they were keeping
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the kids locked away, almost like they're trying to have
them live in a bubble. And they were the same
people who took pictures of their kids getting COVID shots
that were completely worthless and put it on social media
to be social justice warriors and brag about about that.
I gotta correct something I said earlier in the show,
Buck And this is maybe a major, major flaw in
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our holiday power rankings. Neither one of us ranked New
Year's Eve. Oh I am anti New Year's Eve. So
you considered and rejected ranking, sir, sir, we have a
whole conversation. New Year's Eve is the most stressful, overrated,
annoying holiday. I will take National Pancake Day over New
(07:10):
Year's Eve. I will find, like you know, those random
holidays that they make. You're saying this, though, even this
surprises me because you've been a single guy for a
long time, so you could theoretically have celebrated New Year's Eve.
Now for parents like me, I'm at that day. I've
been in several different years where I've been like, hey,
let me try to trick my kids will watch the
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New Year's ball drop from Times Square on the Eastern
time zone, and I can get my kids to go
to bed earlier. Let me tell you a little little
little dispatches from recently. You know, single man life now
engaged obviously, so I'm out of it. I'm out of
that game, thank god. But what it used to be
like every year for my you know, adult life eighteen
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to thirty nine. You know, it's New Year's Eve, Okay,
you know, how do we make this the most amazing
night ever? And then you go out and ever get
super drunk to try to go to as many parties
they can, and it's never really what you wanted to be.
Then you get a little older, rights that's in your twenties,
maybe into your thirties, it's like, oh, there's all these parties,
and go to all these parties and you know you're
gonna have that moment where like you meet the beautiful stranger,
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you make out at midnight, and you get married and
have five beautiful kids. It doesn't work that way. Everyone's like,
I'm so drunk, you know, they're all like stumbling over
each other. There's always someone who's yelling like I'm stuck
in line, I can't get in, and everyone's all upset.
It's a total mess. And then you get a little
older and you're like, you know what, I'm not really
gonna do this New Year's Eve thing anymore. I'm not
really gonna do it. And then about three weeks before
(08:32):
it's New Year's Eve, maybe a month before, people start
texting you, hey, we're gonna do something right, and the
peer pressure start. It's getting ratcheted up. You try to
opt out, it gets ratcheted up, and then all of
a sudden you're like, Okay, well, I guess I'll go
to you know, that super expensive restaurant where they're gonna
give me a prefixed menu with the worst cheapest food
they have and the worst service imaginable, and they're gonna
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usher us in like cattle and usher us out in
scheduled seating, and the restaurant could care less about the
whole thing. And you're in for like I mean, in
New York City, Clay, a crappy restaurant's gonna cost you
two hundred dollars on New Year's Eve. For person, I mean,
you go to like a hotel in Miami. I've been
in Miami last few New Year's Eves. You go to
like a place that's just okay, five hundred bucks a
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person on New Year's Eve. It's crazy. I hate it.
It's a great night for restaurants. I would argue with
you that New Year's Eve heading into New Year's itself,
and I'm curious if you would agree with this number
one night for women to be dressed up in fancy dresses,
ready to go out have a great time that ends
with them crying. I can't tell you the number of times.
(09:38):
I can't tell you, buck the number of times that
I have either been with or been out on New
Year's Eve. Everybody's at a great food, especially if you're
singlehook who look like they're at their their prom or
something that they're they're sitting outside of the booming music
at Somebow's Eve party and the mascara right like, I
(10:00):
just don't understand why he doesn't do that. It is.
It is the number one night for girls to cry
about their boyfriends or their significant others, or the guy
that they thought was gonna be their boyfriend that it
didn't work out. I can't tell you the number of
times they're often you know, they got the fancy shoes
(10:20):
that they're just done with, they got them in their hand.
To your point, mascara running down the cheeks, fancy dressed
and the heels broken on the shoes, so they're walking
around barefooting. Hair is a wreck. It inevitably starts to rain.
It is like the number one night for so for
single women tears. There's not even a close second. So like,
(10:43):
how are you not you're coming over to my side
on this with chief, which is New Yar's Eve is
the worst holid? Well, no, I was. I mean I
was thinking I didn't even think about New Year's Eve
in my rankings, but I was like, I thought maybe you,
as a long term single guy might have it in
your top five. No, no, no, it's it's very Uh,
it's it's not good. And honestly, if there's one you know,
(11:03):
if there's one person you wanted to the midnight kiss with,
you know you just want to hang out with that person,
You're gonna wait till midnight. So why are you going
to some big party? I think the whole thing is
it's a scam. I don't know if it was made
up to sell Hallmark cards or something. Someone tell me
what the conspiracy is behind it. But I think New
Year's Eve is a scam and a half. And look,
how do you have a great New Year's Eve? Hang
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out with the people that you like the most, your family,
your friends, whatever, in a mellow setting. Maybe have a
glass of champagna or you know, a glass of whiskey
or something, have a good meal, watch the ball drop
on TV, and go great. Tomorrow's January first, let's get
after it. Will I will tell a lot of guys
out there listening, and some women as well. The college
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football playoff games are on New Year's Eve tonight this year,
so on December thirty first, starting about four o'clock Eastern,
all the way up through the official New Year there.
Right now, I've got guys panicked right now because they
hadn't done the math in their head, and they got
wives or they got girlfriends, and they were supposed to
plan something and now all they want to do is
(12:08):
just sit back, have a couple of beers, watch college
football playoff direct overlap with New Year's Eve. But they
tried to brand this when they expand into the four
team college football Playoff, they said, hey, we're going to
make New Year's Eve synonymous with college football biggest disaster
schedule ever because what they didn't realize was a lot
(12:29):
of people have big plans and they created I think
more fights are relating to sports over these games going
on head to head than they ever contemplated with my
My thing is, I do love eating out and I
love going that. That's my way of experiencing different you know,
cities and towns all across America. I just want to
what's the best food they've got here? So I love
going out to eat. And New Year's Eve is literally
(12:49):
the worst night of the year to go out to eat.
It is the worst night. You were getting everything they're
they're doing everywhere as a prefix met I never want
a prefix menu. I'm gonna restaurant. If I was going
to prepare and only have one different way to one
set of food, I would do it at home. They
triple charge you in most places, So for eating out,
it's the worst night. And it's just amateur night, man.
You know. It's like the best nights you have are
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the ones you're not trying to have the best night,
And New Year's Eve it concentrates all that. Oh what
you do what are you gonna do on New Year's Eve?
Go to sleep early, wake up the next day, and
just keep living my life. I think that's why all
the girls buck end up crying outside, because they built
it up into a momentous occasion and instead whatever douchebag
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guy they're dating that they thought was going to be
the man of their dreams proves that he's a douchebag,
and they're just like, why did I ever think that
this was? You know, a lot of people think they're
gonna get They think that the prosals gonna happen at
midnight and the resolution whatever, and you know the guys, actually,
you know seven fireballs in watching Clay's favorite SEC football
(13:53):
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Cup in Qatar, which is the way every would say
it now, So I guess I say it that way too.
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People also say cutter, gutter. There's a whole bunch of ways.
But Qatar, we'll have Alexei Lawless of the US men's
national team. He's a sports commentator, joining US the human
from Cutter to talk to Qatar, talk to us about
what's going on there. I have watched it, Clay, and
I obviously was low heartbroken by whales. But it's a
good It's been a good day in Saudi Arabia recently,
(15:39):
a good day in Japan recently, so submission happening there.
We'll get into all that in just a moment. I
do think it is fun. Soccer is the only sport
where after every foul, it's it's like as theatrical as
what you would see in an opera or something. They're
like rolling around and then the faces and it's like
oh oh, oh, you know the guys the Italian team,
(16:01):
like he kick them in of the shins. You know,
you're like, okay, I mean playing soccer, buddy, here would
come down. Many of these guys would never be able
to stand again. And then they would come out for
a while with that spray whatever that spray is they
put on, and then they miraculously recover. I love when
they carry them off on the stretcher to the side
(16:22):
and then they miraculously get back up and run back
out of the sacle. Oh like I got cleted in
the calf and now I'll never walk into calm Down,
com down. But I just realized I've made a little
Italy joked there. Italy is not even in one of
the great soccer play They didn't make the World Cup
this year. It's true, one of the great soccer powerhouses
of all time. Greg in Houston, Texas has some New
(16:43):
Year's Eve thoughts for us, even though it's Thanksgiving. I
guess we're gonna dive into New Year's Eve. What's up? Greg? Yes, sir,
you know, I'm sixty five, I'm retired, and I feel
exactly the same way as you guys do about New
Year's Eve. You know it is worthless, But forty years ago,
nineteen eighty two, it turned out to be the best
day of my life. My love life was in a rut,
(17:04):
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E party and we dated for about four years. What
was your Did you speak to her first? Do you
remember what you're opening? Yeah? Did you guys? Did you
guys smooch at midnight? Give us the details here, Greg, No,
My confidence was just in a rut. And I looked
at her and I said, oh, too good looking, too good?
(17:26):
She actually had to come to me. Oh so you
got approached. Good for you. I will tell twenty years later. Boom,
my mom approached my dad at a cocktail party. That's
how they met. Missus Sexton approached mister Sexton. Oh yeah,
he had good hair. I respect the game. Be good
ballsy from your mom there. No, I pretty much have
(17:47):
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Fleet Travis and buck Sexton on the front lines of
Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Thanksgiving Eve.
(19:18):
We are headed now down to Qatar. I believe I'm
pronouncing that correctly, or at least as the pronunciation has
been agreed to to be joined by Fox Soccer analyst
Alexei Lawless. They are eight hours ahead of us. It
is almost Thanksgiving Day, I guess in Qatar and Alexei,
first of all, thanks for making the time for us.
I know it's an absolute crazy zoo over there with
(19:39):
all the games going on, and I want to start
with this question. US is up one zero when you
see the play. As a former defenseman for the US
men's soccer team, when you see the play of Walker
Zimmerman and the foul that he committed that led to
a penalty kick. Your immediate reaction was to say, or think,
(20:01):
what well, something I can't say on the radio because
I am an ADVID listener to your show and I
know you have a level of decorum here. By the way,
I do I subscribe. I listened to it every day
this morning on the peloton here in the hotel in Qatar,
in Dohak. Here, I was listening to the show. So
I am a huge fan of both you guys and
(20:21):
of this show. When I saw that, I was disappointed,
I was angry. Um And you know I pictured I
pictured myself on the field, and look, mistakes happen in sports,
mistakes happens in life, and it's how you recover from them.
So ultimately, the US ties Whales won one. And you know,
I know that Buck was having some fun at Wales' expense.
(20:41):
You know, Bucks should know that. I mean, it's kind
of come on, it's kind of fair, Like how many
people even know that Whales is its own country. Well,
I understand that, I understand that, but you know, they
they they are a small country, but they are a
hearty country. And and look, I agree with you, the
US should have eaten whales, and so you're dropping point there.
And in the way that had happened with Walker's imerman
(21:02):
making that what amounts to a stupid foul, and it
shouldn't be done at any level, especially for a professional
and it's big in a World Cup. However, there's a
couple of games to play here, including this huge one
on Black Friday against against England, our friends England, so
there is plenty to play for when it comes to
the World Cup. And whether you're into soccer or whether
you're not into soccer, this is an opportunity to sit
down and celebrate what I feel is the greatest country
(21:23):
in the world. There's a very few things in our
life and our world today that bring us together, and
maybe soccer is one of them. So Alexei, so I'm
gonna put this out there just in all fairness, right,
it's not looking good for our guys on Friday. I'm
just I know enough about soccer, mostly from playing FIFA
on PlayStation, but I know enough about the English teams
rankings and the American teams rankings. It's not looking great
for us. But you know, we did win in seventeen
(21:45):
seventy six, so we got that going for us, which
is nice. Iran, though we're gonna be playing Iran, tell
me as somebody who knows this US national team inside
and now, I don't care if we are playing Iran
in in shuffleboard, if we're playing Iran in Tiddley wings,
(22:05):
you name it. America has to win. Are we going
to win that match? Well, you're going to have to
win in order to advance. So you're absolutely right, Buck,
this is going to be a huge game. And look
at you, as you know, sports sometimes mirrors culture and
society and politics and all those different things, and all
of that is going to be on display with Iran,
which we have a long history from. Look I grew
(22:26):
up in the seventies and eighties and what Iran represented
to America and to Americans, and so that will be
part of the narrative. Ultimately, there's three points. So and
to your point, it doesn't matter whether there's men's, women's,
co ed naked. If we're playing Iran, I want to win,
and we need to win this game in order to
go on. I think because to your point, who knows
what's going to happen against England. They are a better team.
(22:47):
Doesn't mean that US can't get a point or get
a win over there. I believe that this is a
good US team that can do some big things, and
this would be huge if they would be able to
beat England. But no matter what, that third game you're
going to have to beat around. Okay, So that's what
a lot of people out there who they don't if
they don't follow this closely. We've got England, Wales, the
United States, and Iran in a group, and if we
(23:10):
had beaten Wales, we would have been an incredible shape
to advance, because two teams advance. Do you see this
coming down to gold differential, in which case we're going
to be watching on Friday, everybody recovering from Thanksgiving meals,
kicking the feed up watching. Do you feel like, even
if we lose to England, it's desperately important to keep
it close because gold differential may well decide who advances
(23:34):
to the knockout round yours, Yeah, you're absolutely right, it
is important that we keep it close. But I do
feel that this has the opportunity in the makings of
something historic, and I know it's it's not a shirt,
but this is a this is a young team. It's
the second youngest team in the tournament. I think they
have a not just a responsibility that they feel, but
(23:54):
also an opportunity to do some big things and to
get whether it's people like yourselves or anybody else is
listening out there, to at least step into the soccer
ten because once you get in there, it's warm, it
is welcoming. And guess what it is American. We do
have an American soccer culture. It is vibrant, it is passionate,
is discerning, it is growing, and don't you dare apologize
(24:16):
for it because it is something that's very very special
and unique in the soccer world out there. But that
has to come out and manifest on the play on
the field, especially when it comes to our men's team.
Our women's team they kick ass, as we know, and
win all the time. The men's team has to step up.
And this would be a huge, huge moment in this
World Cup if they were able to get that result
against England on Black Friday and then parlay that into
a great result against Iran and get out of the group.
(24:38):
So we're speaking to Alexi lalas Fox Soccer analyst and
also a man who really popularized the bright red goatee
of the nineteen nineties. If I recall, wasn't that you?
I remember this man, you know rocking that got was
like that was like a ten out of ten. Gote
you were not messing around. I feel like I've seen
you on TV. It's not there anymore. How are things out?
(25:00):
And cutter man? How's our Qatar? How's it going? You're
actually in country right now? There's been you know, some
new stories about there was like a beer band, but
not really. But how how is it doing a World
Cup there? I can I can assure you that I
have never once in the now a couple of weeks
that I've been here, nor are the other previous trips
that I've taken, had a problem finding alcohol. Uh, people
(25:22):
believe me sometime. That doesn't surprise me at all going forward. Yeah,
but it is it is a we have we have
this kick ass set when it comes to our Fox
Soccer set here down at what's called the Corniche, which
is down on the water. The people here have been incredible.
It is a really really interesting, like you said, world
Cup in that there's this brigadoonish type of experience where
everybody is in the same place, nobody travels anywhere, all
(25:44):
the teams, all the stadiums are here and we're gonna
We're gonna blow it out on Fox. And we have
this incredible set here that has multiple levels and multiple stages,
and people come to it like it is part of
the star of the showdown here, and it just augments
all of the cover that we are bringing. And part
of our job is not just to talk about the soccer,
but to talk about this country and this culture and
(26:06):
to make that part of the storytelling that we're doing.
Am I understanding by the way, I want all of
you to watch the US and Alexei and Stu and
all the crew that's out there, Jenny Taft, fantastic job
they're doing. But also I will be up in Columbus
for this Ohio State Michigan game, which is going to
be huge, and my understanding, as a part of our
pregame show, we're actually going to be integrating some of
(26:29):
you guys. Sin's my understanding. It might not be a
one hundred percent accurate as a part of the World
Cup to have you guys talking college football and maybe
a little bit of NFL. Also, so for people out there,
Alexei who don't know this US men's soccer team, you
mentioned how young they are. You played in the World
Cup back in nineteen ninety two in the United States,
(26:51):
the first time that you play in a World Cup
match as a young guy. It feels like what first
part of the question, second aspect here, how much more
comfortable and better did you play in game two? Having
just gotten the butterflies in some extent out in that
first ever World Cup match? Yeah? I mean, look, would
(27:13):
you realize a dream? There is a moment of ah,
and the sooner you get over it, the better off
you are going to be when you recognize it's the
game that you're playing, been played playing all along. Mine
was way back in the nineteen hundreds before you guys
were born, back in nineteen ninety four, summer ninety four.
Like you said, Buck, a lot of hair. Never has
so much been done with the monoicum of talent and
a lot of hair, whether it was the goatie or
the hair on top of my head. I wish I
(27:34):
could still grow it. I've cleaned up on the outside,
but I'm still a mess on the inside. But then
you walk out on that field. And in my case,
at that point, it was actually in Pontiac at the
Pontiac silverdam Rest in Peace, the Pontiac Silverdome. I grew
up in Detroit, so fifteen minutes outside of where I
grew up, walking on that field and realizing a dream.
Now this US team has already done that, right, so
(27:54):
now they understand what the World Cup is. Now on Friday,
when they walk out against against England, it's not just
with the realization that they're representing their their country, but
it's also with the understanding that there's there's a competition
here and you got to figure it out very very
quickly against a very very good team. But look, there's
nothing like it when you walk out on that field,
when you put your hand over your heart, you put
that shirt on, you sing that song for me, there
(28:16):
is nothing else, nothing else like it. And if I could,
I would, I would do anything to get back in
all right, Alexi Lawless of Fox Soccer and Alexei, let's
hope that us first of all, have a happy Thanksgiving
out there. I know you're abroad right now, and it
pass along the same for us to all the American
players out there. We're thinking about them and we appreciate
(28:37):
you joining us. And let's hope we got a w
on Friday. I will actually watch this. This sports competition awesome.
I love it. I love it. I love what you
guys to do it so I do. So keep on
doing it and make sure that you give me something
for what I'm on the peloton sweating my ass off. Absolutely, sir,
thank you so much. Let's play. Alexei is a fantastic guy. Buck.
I told you he listens to the show and he's
(28:58):
a great American soccer here. I remember because I was
planning soccer in high school back back when he was
on that national team or right around then, and he
was one of the first guys I think, to really
popularize the US men's national team of that era. You know,
just he was a well known guy as men's soccer
(29:19):
was becoming more of a thing here. You know, this
is really I think that was even pre MLS, or
maybe the MLS had just gotten going. I think the
MLS built out and I think I said ninety two
was ninety four. That was the launching point, that's right.
The MLS was the amount of attention that we had hosting.
And remember we're hosting to a large extent the World
Cup in twenty six which is why I would ever
(29:41):
experience these guys get now hopefully could translate four years
from now when we hosted basically in the United States
North America does. Yeah. But you know that Argentinian team,
which is supposed to be one of the best in
the world, they got caught flat footed, folks. They were
a little slow in the third fourth quarter and Saudi
Arabia b them. So I know it would be international
(30:02):
shipping clay, but maybe we could get them a little
bit of a boost, a little bit of extra energy
to help push them. Very well played in the final
quarters of their match, so they wouldn't lose to Saudi Arabia,
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Maybe the saudiast had a little chalk. I don't know
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closing up shop for the day here on Clay en
Buck before your Thanksgiving. We are so appreciative of a
all of you listening, tuning in, getting to hang with you.
Even had a guest call in from the other side
of the planet with Alexei Lallis giving us a ring
from Cutter. Great, great guy. I appreciate him making the
time for us because you know, you look, America is
on the world stage here. Whether you like soccer or not,
(32:12):
America is on the world stage. And I actually do
like soccer a bit, as does Clay. So it's gonna
be interesting to see what happens on Friday. We have
something cool to tell you about. It's a great weekend
for it as well. We have a new podcast that
will be dropping and it will be going up this weekend.
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(32:34):
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If you're listening to the show now, you're like, oh,
what is this? Well, we're pulling together hang time and
we want to do more and more special stuff as
well going forward. And I'm gonna be in on Friday
so we can talk about the best Black Friday deals
(32:55):
and stuff like that. Clay is going to be doing
family time and some sports watching. So I'll be in
Columbus actually for this big Michigan Ohio State game. So
I'm traveling to Columbus, Ohio. I hope to see many
of our listeners. I think we're number one, or have
been at different times in Columbus, in Cleveland and at Cincinnati,
so that our extended radio family time is what you'll
(33:17):
be spending time with there, so you'll be seeing some
of them. Who is So it's Ohio State Michigan Is
that right? Yeah? The biggest game probably right up there.
This year Tennessee Georgia was a big game one versus two,
one versus one depending on how you look at the rankings.
And Michigan is third, Ohio State is second. Whoever wins
is going to probably win the Big Ten and go
(33:39):
to the playoffs. I just think when you stack up
that Michigan offense against the Ohio defense, it's likely that
the better team will win. You got to say, Ohio State,
they're gonna be They're gonna be fired up that you
call them Ohio Oh Wait, isn't that? Is that not
the same thing. There's a university, there's Ohio which is
like the University of Ohio, and then there's Ohio State.
(34:00):
Ohio State is the big I gotta get this stuff
right or else the fraternity brothers where we go visit
will be throwing those red solo cups full of their
pungent juice at me. So yeah, lots lots of high
end alcohol consumption I imagine going to be going on
in Columbus. So I'm excited for that game. But I'm
also excited. I mean, look, a lot of people are
gonna be on Friday. You got kids running around, you
(34:23):
got family members, you pop on the television, and if
the US can keep it close against England, I think
it gonna be a pretty enjoyable game. And obviously a
lot of people watch NFL on Thursday and then college
football Saturday. It's a good weekend. We were talking about
this because soccer is a funny game and that you
can if someone dominates a basketball game, meaning they're just
(34:44):
scoring a lot of points throughout. There's no huge surprises.
There can be momentum shifts and a team can come back,
but you can dominate a soccer game. You could have
you know, fifteen shots on goal, seventy percent of the
possession and loose because you didn't actually put it in
the net and they got one time. So you know,
(35:04):
that's that's basically my way of saying, maybe America gets
a miracle here, like not quite beating the Soviets in hockey,
but you know, back in the day, but close to it,
it's easier to pull off upsets. To your point, you
said earlier, Saudi Arabia Beatum Argentine totally unexpected, and today
Germany lost to Japan. Nobody would have foreseen either of
those outcomes. So maybe fingers crossed the US on Friday
(35:28):
can do something against England. Shelley in Las Vegas, Nevada
has some thoughts for us. What's up, Shelley, Hi? How
are you? I just want to tell you just rethink
New Year's Eve because New Year's Eve is my birthday. Well,
happy birthday. It advanced, Shelley. Now now I do like
it a little bit more. All right, see now, and
(35:48):
I live in Las Vegas, where they're always celebrating, so
so yeah, times I feel left out that, Hey, why
isn't somebody celebrating my birthday? But the whole world celebrates
my birthday? You know, Shelley, I'll just tell you. I can,
I can? I can? I hear you on this one
because my fiance's birthday is Christmas, so she has to
(36:09):
share her birthday with Baby Jesus, which can kind of
be that's tough. I mean, you know, I love my
care bear, but baby Jesus is a big deal, so
tough combo for kids. Yeah, Rick in North Carolina, I
think this is our salmon expert. I was trying to say,
all salmon tastes the same, Rick, Am I totally crazy
(36:29):
over this? Yeah? Well, a couple of things. I initially
called on the calorie content of food because I was
with you on the stake thing, and I can give
you the science on that one, but you totally lost me.
On the pancakes with the butter in the syrup. Yep,
there's no way that's that's low calorie. But all right,
I do what about my argument though about salmon all
tasting kind of the same even at the fanciest place.
(36:52):
I'm a commercial salmon fishing tender in Alaska, so there's
five different types of salmon that that we catch up there.
And you don't want to get farmed raised. There's farmed
raised in wild salmon. And I challenge you to this,
Go buy a piece of stocky salmon from wild Alaskan
stokey salmon, and buy a piece of farm raised salmon
and cook them exactly the same way. And I think,
(37:12):
all right, I will check that out. I'll try that
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