January 24, 2023 • 37 mins
Clay and Buck on Rihanna, Beyonce, Taylor Swift and when an artist's personal shortcomings lead you to cut them from your entertainment roster. Clay, who says his sons love Michael Jackson music, asked, "At what age do you have the conversation about Michael Jackson accusations with your kids?" Breaking news -- classified documents found at Mike Pence's Indiana home: Buck exclaimed to Clay, "I'm not kidding!" Clay says, "To me, this shows how much of an overreaction there was to the Trump classified documents." FDA states the covid shot should be taken once a year like the flu shot. Clay notes he was right a long time ago about it being just a flu shot. Remember when comparing covid to the flu was a conspiracy theory? Amazingly, Joe Scarborough regrets not getting the 4th covid shot and blames his harsh covid experience on that. C&B on the Best Picture Oscar nominees and their push for Top Gun: Maverick. They don't believe Tom Cruise can be the best actor of his generation and never won a Best Actor Oscar.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
We gotta bevy a fund for you, I would say
as we roll through today's program, A couple of things
that are ridiculous. Splash Mountain. I bet a huge percentage
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of you who have been to Disney World at some
point in your lives know this ride. One of the
most popular and iconic rides in all of America. They
are shutting it down. It's the final day at Disney
World because of the connection to Splash Mountain and a
old Disney movie from the nineteen forties that they have
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deemed to be racist, and so they are redoing the
entire ride. Yes, this is the world we live in.
An amusement park ride based in some degree on Joel
Chandler Harris. I believe his stories that were told back
in the eighteen eighties. Song of the South was a
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movie that was made on it. We need to dive
into this, we'll talk about it. Also, our good friend
Beyonce supposedly took twenty four million dollars to perform in
the Middle East, despite the fact that she has been
ridiculing everyone out there for not being woken up in
the United States. Buck, I just want to know, Clay,
are you somebody who celebrates Beyonce's whole catalog of songs
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or you like me and get everyone mad at you
apparently because you think good but overrated. I don't have
a strong I understand some people are like totally in
love with Beyonce. I don't really have a strong opinion
on her. Like Rihanna is playing at the at the
super Bowl, and I like Rihanna more than Beyonce, right, Like,
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if you told me you can pick five songs, and
I'm not talking about the entire catalog, because I'm not
one of these people who sits around and watches or
listens to entire catalogs. But if you told me you
can pick five songs from either Rihanna or Beyonce, I
would go Rihanna. And so Rihanna, I'm gonna be out
in Arizona doing the show because Fox has a Super
Bowl this year. Rihanna is the halftime performer, and I'm
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actually kind of excited to see how Rihanna's halftime performance
might go. So it would probably I don't know if
We've unleashed a whirlwind there with that take. Are they
gonna like wheel out the Rolling Stones again? You know,
better than Beyonce. If you're Auntie, I like Taylor Swift
better than Beyond. I would probably say Taylor Swift. If
I were power ranking singers, you know, women singers in
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the last twenty years, I'd probably put Taylor Swift at
my number one seed. Who would you put number one?
The greatest in my lifetime? I would say Whitney Houston
And but it's just a singer, or like, do you
really like that many Whitney Houston songs? Like are you
running around like listening to the Bodyguard while you work out?
Excuse me, I will rock out to I'm Every Woman whenever?
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Or that comes on a great song. Did you see
the U that there was supposedly a transgender uproar about
the song natural Woman being unacceptable to them? Well, I
know that wasn't it. Who was it that? Did Shania Twain? Man,
I feel like a woman? I believe you're not allowed
to play that song anymore? Really? Yeah, I think there's
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like comments into the transgender community. Yes, well, because she
didn't she didn't feel like a woman. Maybe she or
you know, one doesn't feel like a woman. Woman either
is or is not based upon feelings, but we're not
allowed to talk about that. That is UM. When they
started canceling Baby, it's cold outside, I was like, literally,
they're canceling everything. Here's well, you didn't even plan on this.
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But do you still enjoy Michael Jackson music? I have
gone back and forth with people on this many times.
I think Michael Jackson is now. I think the legacy
is so tainted that it feels that it actually feels.
And that's a very high bar for me with artists
meeting like you have to be. It has to be
really bad for the art to be so tainted by
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the person. You know. I still think The Pianist, for example,
is a fantastic movie. Or The Pianist, um, But obviously
if you know about the director, you know you might have.
But I don't even know about the director. Oh yeah,
Like I mean, like Kevin Spacey, I would not enjoy
UM and Bill Cosby, right, there are lots of people
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out there that have been uh certainly uh, I think
I think Cosby's I think Cosby is at that same level.
Like you couldn't enjoy the Cosby Show now like you'd
think wife about it bills like cutting the cutting the
cake and stealing a piece, or like I can't, I
can't watch this anymore. I'm willing to put aside as
much as I can to enjoy art for what it
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is and not take the politics or the history of
the individual into account too much. But I do think
that there's a line. And look, I think Michael Jackson
has one of the greatest song catalogs, certainly of the
modern era, and just in terms of of the tunes themselves,
I think it's I think it's hard these days too,
you know, which would anyone go to? There used to
be like Michael Jackson theme nights at a bar that
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I know. I mean, I'll give you one that I'm
that I'm deciding right now. Uh Sark to Sol has
a Michael Jackson performance, you know, has like eight different
Michael Jordan's uh Michael Jackson performances. And my kids love
Michael Jackson songs like they grew up listening to uh
to those songs. And we're gonna be in I'm doing
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the show tomorrow, Thursday and Friday in Vegas because the
kids have a dance competition that they're in, and I
was thinking like, hey, maybe maybe I'll take them to
the micause how much kids stuff is there in Vegas.
So I think, by the way, that's I don't know,
I don't think. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I
think that's a tough one for me. Uh. You know,
you're you're you're the dads. You've got You've got dad
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hours in, You've got experience making these kinds your kids.
At what age do you sit them down and be like, hey,
there are sexual assault allegations against Michael Jackson. You know,
do I sit down my eight year old and explain
that he can't like bad because it's yeah, it's all allegations,
as we know, I mean the rape allegations against miners.
So it's about as heinous and serious a crime as
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as as can be committed. Um. So that's I will say.
If we're creating a standard here for when you can
I think if it doesn't cross the line into criminality,
I think I can. I'm usually okay with it, and
I think it doesn't cross. Yes, no, No, What I'm
saying is, you know, if somebody's like Tim Robbins, I
love the Shawshank redemption. Even though Tim Robbins might have
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the most annoying politics on the planet, there are some
others that are like. But like, I could separate that
stuff if you get a dui or you know, the
kind of crimes that you know, normal people were imperfect.
Once you get into you know, anything like murder, you
would take Michael Jackson off your like if you had
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an iPad playlist or whatever you is on none of
my Spotify playlist right now? What about you sing about
your fiance? What about Kerry? I'd have to ask her.
I don't Yeah, I mean, actually, I'm generally curious. I
know that she finds Taylor Swift's politics so annoying that
she's nope, not on the t Swift train. Yeah. Well,
I like Taylor Swift even though her politics are awful,
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and I would go see a concert if I didn't
have to pay twenty thousand dollars to go see a
concert of Taylor Swift. But we had to make this
decision during because the documentary on Michael Jackson came out
and we on the morning radio show, my sports talk
radio show, we played a lot of different music, same
thing with R Kelly now r Kelly. Because he's still
alive and can't and was found guilty, I can be like, Okay,
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I don't need to hear Trapped in a Closet episode
forty seven. But Michael Jackson, I feel like, because he
died and he wasn't able to defend himself for those documentaries,
he was never found guilty in a court of law,
which his defenders are always going to bring up, and
you know, they'll say, what about the presumption of innocence?
The presumption of innocence as it now? I mean, I'm
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I don't find their case persuasive, but I'm just saying,
this is the case of the I think that that's
kind of what I'm going through my head right now
with the Circus Sola in Vegas, because there's a lot
of things for kids that are wildly inappropriate in Vegas.
So I was like, Okay, what things out there could
the kids go see? And I'm like, oh, the Michael
Jackson Circus LA. But do I have to sit down
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with my twelve year old At what age do you
have the conversation about the allegations against Michael Jackson with
your kids? Even like a circus back in the day.
I mean, you know, Circus La a Circus of the Sun.
But even the old school circus, which you would think
would be among the most family friendly fair possible, right,
you know, the kid to the like traveling circus back. Oh,
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but people get very I don't think there are traveling
circuses anymore. That's what I'm saying. People get very upset
about the circus as an enslavement of animals that is
inherently abusive because of the travel and the close cores
and the training they go through. So even the old
school animal circus, a lot of people, a lot of
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people can they ban the circus because my oldest is
about to turn fifteen, and I took him when he
was three or four. So this is something that's happened
in the last decade, Like you can't go to a
circus anymore in the United States. Yeah, they don't even know, right,
because the animal rights activists are one they're well, yeah,
they get they get very they get very Look, I mean,
an elephant doesn't really want to be whipped and told
to sit on a stool. I will say I think
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that they're I think that they're onto something with this.
And also that the quarters. It's not like they're in
the Bronx Zoo and some massive environmental enclosure that's supposed
to look and mimic like their natural habitat. They're moving
around in rail cars basically, So no, I do that.
If the logic applies for the circus, I would think
it would apply for a zoo too, right, because nobody
would prefer to be enclosed. Yeah, Clay, that's the next left,
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the next level. Gosh, we're gonna get sponsored by Peter
if this keeps up. People think that zoos unless it's
a specialized breeding program to keep an or it's a
semi domesticated animal. People have a lot of problems with
zoos too in the animal animal welfare community. So I
just come across this stuff because I love dogs a lot,
and when you talk to like dog lovers, you know,
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and you see what they're what they're also supporting a
lot of time online and be like, oh, we need
to end zoos. You're like, WHOA, I thought zoos were
the good games aggressive. I mean, I don't know what
they would do with all the animals in the zoo.
Would they release them back into the wild to immediately
be killed because they've been living in captivity forever. I
don't know what you do with them all. See, that's
also the problem is that, Okay, I mean, I guess
it's better to be you know, it's better to be
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out there. You know, there are housecats and there are wildcats, right,
but if you're a wildcat, you know, the neighborhood, the
neighborhood mutt might get a hold of you. And if
you're out there on the on the planes of you know,
the jungles of the Amazon or the planes of Africa,
you get eaten real fasts. So yeah, don't have a
lot of survival of the fittest skills coming out of
the zoo. I would also almost guarantee you that where
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I live in the Red States, they are never shutting
down zoos. And actually there would be a huge business
advantage because if the Blue States started shutting down all
their zoos, all the Blue state people would travel to
the Red States to take their kids to the zoo.
You know, you know how you're a Civil War nerd
because you went to Civil War Camp. Yes, I went
to Bronx Zoo Camp Clay. So this has been in
me for a long time. I went to a camp
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at a zoo where we just walked around and we
actually got to like a hold and there's a Bronx
Zoo and a Central Park Zoo. Like, yeah, the Central
Park Zoo is like really a place where you have
cocktails while you watch the seals splash around. It's very small,
it's very kind of it's the Bronck Zoo is a
big zoo. Like the Bronx Zoo is a massive, you know,
massive complex with you know, a whole other level. It's
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more I think like the San Diego Zoo, I think
is a really tremendous zoo. But I don't know. Maybe
we definitely need to talk about the news today at
some point. I'm sorry. So I got a couple of
different things. One as we get ready for break, I
laid out a couple of things. But they're now going
to make the COVID shot yearly. It is officially the
flu shot. COVID is the flu remember when you couldn't
say that. We've got a great clip of our buddy
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Joe Scarborough, who used to represent one of the greatest
places in the United States, the Panhandle of Florida, and
now has lost his mind. He got COVID and says
that the reason why he got COVID bad is because
he only had three shots, not four shots. This really
happened this morning on MSNBC. We'll play that cut for
you when we come back, because I think you guys
will all love as the insanity continues to grow. But first, buck,
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what you got for us? Well, we've also got fantastic
guest today, Clay Andy McCarthy of National Review on the
lad situation, spasified docks that'll be Did you see did
you see just now on Fox News? They had a
flashing breaking news. There's a report, a report not confirmed,
that Mike Pence has had classified documents found in this house.
I just saw that on Fox News. I'm serious, I'm serious.
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This is like, oh boy. We'll see if that's that
ends up being confirmed or not. We also have Pompeo,
speaking of former Trump officials, Mike Pompeo is going to
join us and we'll talk to him about going on
in Ukraine. Something really big is happening right now actually
in terms of our involvement in Ukraine, will get into
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Clay Ann Buck. It is confirmed. We mentioned this breaking
news a couple of minutes ago. The breaking news is
or was correct. It is now just news news. Um
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Mike Pence has had classified documents found at his home,
about a dozen of them right now. This is this
is a situation. I this is just getting absurd and
it makes me think that you know, a lot of
these former officials probably have classified in their homes, and
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I have to On the one hand, Clay, it's there's
the absurdity of this Biden with the rage where he
was holding it near the corvette, you know, safe near
the corvette, you know, the whole thing. But when I
was in the agency, when I was in the CIA,
I knew this. Everyone knew this. And anyone who's listening
who had a clearance in the military, FBI, any of
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the I think there's seventeen intelligencies now the federal government.
I think there used to be sixteen. Any of those places,
this would be considered an egregious, an egregious you know,
shortcoming laps crime, whatever you want to. I mean, depending
on the circumstances of it, but it's a big deal
if you're just a normal person. The law is supposed
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to be the law. I'm just gonna put this out there.
Republican Democrat, you know you're not supposed to do this.
And how can we have people who get sent to
Leavenworth for six months for a minor infraction, even sometimes
in the field and the war zones have classified when
we have the top people at the very at the
very elite level of the National security apparatus tree this
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stuff like you know, they're using them like cocktail napkins
or something, just strewing them about the table. I think
what it shows is there's clearly a double standard in
terms of how people who are considered to be at
elite levels of power, right vice president's, president's high level,
probably senators, When you're at the apex of power, the
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rules are not being applied to you anywhere anywhere near
the same level. And I think this just further solidifies
that there's not going to be any charges brought on
anything related to the Trump classified documents, And to me
just kind of further elucidates how much of an overreaction
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and fever pitch there was surrounding all the Trump classified documents,
because the one thing you would say about Mike Pence,
I think is that basically his brand is moral rectitude. Right,
that would be how Mike Hints would sell himself. I
think to the larger community that he's a paragon of morality.
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I think that's a big part of his brand. And
if he even he has classified documents, it's kind of
the point where you assume that everybody does. And also,
I think there's at this broader level a recognition now
that all that stuff from last summer about Trump and
the Marlago documents, and he's practically handing away the crown
jewels of national security to our enemies. He needs to
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be prosecuted. He's a monster. There's such honestly, man, CNN
and The New York Times, they're just such a bunch
of fraudulent little babies. And the whole thing is so ridiculous.
I mean, look at this now, the funny classified over
place anyone want to place bets. If you were to
go through, oh, I don't know, some of the Clinton residences,
you might find some of this stuff. Well, certainly I
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think Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and all their papers
that they have at their presidential libraries. I mean, I
do think you probably should be going through all of
Biden's want FBI. FBI run through a chappaquad to see
what's going on there with the Clinton residents, don't. I
don't think that the Clinton's look at a Hillary server. Yeah,
I think you're probably right. I think they probably all
have it. It's hard to find a news story on
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Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us as we roll through the Tuesday edition of
the program. A couple different things here, one Buck, I
remember when it was a conspiracy theory if you said
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that COVID was anything like the flu at all, it
was flat out impermissible to even suggest as much. Now
we know that COVID is basically the flu, and we
continue to have gobs of money spent by Fiser and
Maderna trying to persuade people to get the COVID shot.
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And I really noticed this, Buck in the NFL playoffs,
where the amount of advertisements for these shots is through
the roof during commercial breaks, even on radio breaks. I
mean some of you have told us, I mean, it's
not like we choose what commercial as you know, ads run.
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They've run some of these Fiser and Maderna shots during
our podcast. You ever see this, like emails from people
saying like Hey, you know, why is this person advertising
during your podcast or why is this thing come out
like this may come as a shock to you, but
Buck and I do not choose all of the advertisements
that run during the course of during the course of
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our program. But they're spending money hand over fist. Maderna
and Fiser are to try to make you think that
these shots work. And this I want to play an
audio clip for you in a moment, Buck. But the
newest is the FDA is reportedly going to recommend that
everyone get a yearly COVID shot. So basically, we have
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created for Fiser and Maderna a yearly annuity of profitable
revenue for a shot that is going to provide virtually
no benefit to huge majorities of people in the country.
Tree and we still have these crazy people. And I
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really think at this point there should be an investigation
because I'm sure that Fizer and Maderna spend a ton
of money on MSNBC and on Morning Joe and So
Joe Scarborough. I oh, he teach this a little bit earlier.
He represents the Panhandle of Florida. I don't think Buck's
been to the Panhandle of Florida. Yet I love it.
We're building a house like I would spend substantial portions
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of my life and plan to do it down on
the Panhandle of Florida between Panama City and destined little
postage stamp area called thirty A where full don't move
down or vacation there. But buck I gotta tell you
this is so crazy. I don't understand how anybody is
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still trusting Scarborough on this issue at all. He says
he's already gotten three COVID shots and he got COVID
really bad, and his biggest takeaway was I should have
gotten the fourth shot that would have helped a listen,
I had not gotten my COVID booster, which one fourth
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the fourth, because you know, we went to London then
got covivid. Yeah, got completely knocked down for a while.
We found out the boosters the vaccines, they don't stop
the disease, but they certainly do make a big impact.
And stead of me being down for a month with fatigue,
if they'd taken the booster, I would have probably sneezed
and said what was that and kept coming. So I
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love when people go, oh, I'm not going to couz
and deference So you still get COVID. That's not the
purpose of it. That's never been the purpose of the
flu shot, and so it builds up your resistance, just
like actually getting COVID builds up your resistance. It actually
is u sometimes the purpose of the flu shot. I mean,
when he said it was never the purpose, he's actually wrong.
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I'm sure there's a clip of him saying, get the
COVID shot. You'll never get COVID. You'll never have to
worry about it again. So that's actually how they got
people to get the first two. I should probably we
should probably just tweet it good old Joe, you know,
good old former Republican Joe Scarborough. Isn't it amazing? Can
you imagine being an adult and for any amount of money,
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just completely repudiating everything you've ever believed in and attacking
everybody that you spent thirty or forty years of your
life completely you know, supporting and agreeing with. I think
that's amazing. I think that the psycho the psychological acrobatics
to be a total turn coat, not to evolve on
one issue or to change on a few things, but
to say I went from my team good to my
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team terrible. I just don't think MSNBC can pay any
one enough money for that, but well apparently they can.
But you know, you can also sell your soul. Look,
we should just tell Joe you just didn't take the virus. Seriously, buddy,
didn't mask up hard enough, didn't get that fourth shot.
You know, book three shots and you get COVID, And evidently,
according to him, he got COVID bad. And his first
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thought is this is a result of me not getting
the fourth shot. Yes, but if you three shots for something,
anything in the world, and you still got the thing
that you got the shot for, and you got it
according to him in a really severe way, what kind
of normal human says, Oh, it was because I didn't
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get the fourth shot. Right, Well, think about the the
actual COVID fatality rate, which they're going to have to
do a total redo of all these numbers, now that
we know that there's been over massive overcounting of debts,
which people barely even talk about right now. I mean,
the chance of somebody of Scarborough's roughly speaking age and
health dying from COVID is you know, one in ten
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thousand probably. I mean, when you really look at the numbers,
it's actually quite small, and so he's saying it would
have been worse had I not gotten the shot. What
is he basing that off of, Like, there's no there's
no actual numbers or data to support this. But this
is also why part of the COVID religion and you see,
you see all these parallels. There's a climate change religion,
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there's a COVID religion. These are belief systems that the
left and Democrats globally and here at home replace traditional religion,
a belief in God and a relationship with God. They
replace it with these these belief systems. But this is
why you had the I just got COVID. It was
really bad. I'm so thankful that I got my shot, though, genuflection.
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You had you had to do that. Oh but but
just so everybody knows, you know, a normal human reaction
is I got a shot for something and got sick anyway,
and it was pretty crappy, and my chances of a
worse outcome than what I already had were infinitesimal. That's
what a normal person would think, totally. And sometimes you
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have to take it outside of COVID because there's so
much political obsession with COVID that people have a lot
of fixed thoughts in their mind. So if you're talking
to someone and you hear them say something like Joe
Scarborough just pre COVID. If you had gotten three shots
for the measles and then you still got the measles,
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and you got the measles really bad, wouldn't you wouldn't
your natural reaction be like, man, that was a really
crappy three shot measles vaccine that I got. I don't
ever remember a conversation in the past, Buck where you
would get multiple shots for anything and still get the
underlying virus. In any way, we've already conditioned us to
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believe that this is actually normal. It isn't. No one
ever had these conversations two years ago. Well, we know
how they would do the risk analysis without all of
the fauci ideology and the worship of the shot that
the Democrats created here, which is the flu, which is
what we talked about all along, and what they'll tell
you what the flu. And this has been the case
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for as long as we've been alive. Clay is probably
get it if you're at risk. There are a few
categories of people who are at risk. But even if
you get it. It doesn't mean you're not gonna get it.
And also you could get it and still die, so
good luck. Yes, Actually, that's that's flu reality out there
for anybody who needs a quick refresher, which is also
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the same thing with COVID at this point. And I
would wonder if you really lined it up how much
the effectiveness of the COVID shot versus your average FLU shot,
which one is more? You know, I couldn't tell you offhand,
and I think there's very little that people could tell
you in general based on the numbers, because I think
they don't want to do the analysis well. And I
would also just say this for everybody out there who's listening,
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who might be working in an Attorney General's office, how
in the world is this not fraud? I just come
back around again and again too. We were fraudulently induced
by for profit companies in Fiser and Maderna to get
shots that they sold us would do something that they
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did not. They said it was the COVID. They said
it would also keep you from spreading it. Both those
things are a lie. The problem is you have a
situation where they can not have known because we forced
them or the system pushed them. They will say into
a schedule. They couldn't have known what the shots would
look like in a year because they made them in
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less than a year. Yeah, so they so they're just
gonna say, how could we have known? You guys wanted this.
To prove fraud, whether it's corporate fraud or anything else,
you usually have to have either, you know, egregious malpractice
of some kind that is apparent. You know, we just
weren't keeping any books and we're you know FTX, Right,
that's just all we were also screwed up, we don't know.
But really to prove it, you need some You need
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to be able to show that people actively lied on
material matters to the public on an issue. Right. So
I just find it hard to believe that they didn't
have early signs, really early signs that what they were
continuing to advertise about the efficacy of the shots was
not Actually this is not a popular thing to say,
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but I believe it will be seen as true. And
I'd like to say things that I think are true,
even if they're going to get me some heat. I
think Clay the vaccine companies structured this, including the way
they set up their test groups, so that it's impossible
to know. You know that they made it so broad
and so vague and so oh, we're just gonna give
the shots to everybody. Doesn't work. You know that it
will be effectively impossible to prove the fraud. Do you see?
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You know what I mean? No, I mean I can certainly.
I mean I understand what their defense will be, and
I think you're hitting on what their defense will be.
Not to mention, they'll claim that they have immunity. But
I still think the lawsuit should be brought. And we
have a big government, Like, let's take advantage of a
big government maybe and say, hey, okay, why don't you
just return all the profits? Right, let's just you return
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taxpayers gave you a profit. I think people are forgetting this.
We funded. They keep saying, oh, these shots are free.
The shots are not free. We are all paying for them.
Give us all the profits back. Just return well, you
know it'll be a flat cost for you, and give
us all the profits back from these shots because you
have in many ways behaved in a fraudulent way. We
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in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show you hear the music
as we are coming in from the break there. That
is the top Gun primary soundtrack song, and it has
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been nominated for Best Picture along with Avatar, Buck's Favorite,
which has now gone over two billion dollars worldwide. Avatar
has sixth highest grossing movie of all time. Now, admittedly
they don't adjust that for inflation, but Buck, when important
important Avatar question? Yes, Avatar one was trash and I'll
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follow my sword. I don't care. It's just never, never
gonna budge on this one. It's a garbage movie. I
know it made a bajillion dollars, but it's a garbage movie.
Did they charge twenty dollars? Is this the three D
thing again where they're charging people's special three D? But
they definitely put it on imax. I watched it out
in Park City with my kids, and we were in
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a state what I would call a standard you know,
like movie theater, and you know, the cost was normal.
But that's why when they say, like the highest grossing
movies of all time. It should totally be inflation adjusted,
because certainly we're talking about ten percent inflation. I don't
know how much movie ticket prices have gone up lately,
but it cost way more to go to a movie
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in twenty twenty three than it did in nineteen thirty three.
I think so comparing that I remember, the wind is
not that fair. Yeah, I remember going to movies with
my parents in New York City growing up, and it
was like seven dollars for adults, and then they raised
it to nine dollars. It was like, oh man, that's
getting expensive. I rarely, if ever, go to movies these days.
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It's like a once a year or every other year
event for me. I feel like I've been to movie
theaters where it's like twenty five dollars a person, you know,
and if you get some popcorn and some sodas, go
to the movie will run you one hundred bucks. For
a family of four. It definitely has gotten way more expensive.
We go to the movies quite a bit with the kids. Like,
I'm looking at these movies, the Oscar's best pictures. I
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have seen Top Gun, I've seen Avatar, did you see Elvis?
I've heard Elvis is not bad, and you did you
watch All Quiet on the Western Front? Didn't you say
that was wrong? On Netflix? It is excellent. It's excellent
picture too. I heard it was good. Yeah that after
any of you who you know think you know enjoy
a very good, very realistic war movie. All Quiet on
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the Western Front is really exceptional. And then my wife
ordered the banshees of insuring or I don't even know
how you pronounce that initiality. Oh it was awful. I mean,
I like almost all movies. This was the most depressing,
awful movie that I've seen in a long time. I
don't like to be a hater, so that's why I
love to give credit where it's due. The Top Gun
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movies amazing. I hope it wins Best Picture that way.
I think Reinvigorate may make it the best picture. A
lot of people just the notion of a great, super entertaining,
well made movie that everyone can love and that is
not meant to be a lecture on some political issue
of the moment. So I would love that for Top Gun.
I think that All Quiet in the Western Front is amazing.
And I don't mean to be nasty, but I just
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think Colin Farrell is the maybe the most overrated actor
of our generation. I've never seen him in anything where
I didn't think he made this movie kind of worse,
and I thought he was actually pretty good. It was
just the most awful. Did anybody else on the show
in the background here see the band? She did anyone
like this movie? You could tweet? Tried to have a
Sexton family movie night with this one. I played that,
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you know, with my parents and Carrie and my brothers.
We played the trailer and everybody was like, nah, not
doing it. It was the right call, and it was
so depressing. It was awful. There's people chopping their fingers off,
I mean, and like I had to go pick up
my kid halfway through, and Laura and I were watching
it and she was like, you want me to pause it.
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I was like, just watch it if you want to.
I'm out. I was actually glad to have to go
drive and pick up one of my kids. That's how
bad it was. So you want obviously top gun. Is
there anything else on the lift? I mean, the everything
everywhere all at once. With eleven Oscar nominations, I have
been soaked. I've tried to get carried to sit through
that movie with me, or to start that movie. It's
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several times oddsmakers expect it to be the best picture,
And I'll just say that every time we've tried, we
look at the trailer and it just looks so strange
that we've we've kind of bailed at the last minute.
So I just I think it would be a huge
statement if Hollywood would put Top Gun Maverick in the
Best Picture seat, because nobody watches the Oscars anymore, because
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by and large, a lot of people haven't seen these movies,
and they reward like these usually very left wing, like uh,
you know, not very enjoyable films, And so I feel
like if they gave Top Gun Maverick the Best Picture, yes,
all the movie purest would be upset. But I think
it was like Titanic one Best Picture, like twenty five
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years ago. Right, It used to be in our youth
that the movie that was just the most awesome movie
of the year a lot of the time won the
best one Best picture. That was a thing theater like,
it was not uncommon Gladiator like You're You're Right, like
movies that people genuinely went and see and liked. One
pretty regularly, and the last ten years it has been
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like the Wokeness Awards for a lot of the Oscars.
I mean they come up with movies that went I've
never even heard of these movies. But you're right, if
they want to make it relevant again, how about pick
a movie that's relevant to people, as in they go
see it. Tom Cruise is never one best actor. If
you're the greatest actor of your generation, should you Wan
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
We gotta bevy a fund for you, I would say
as we roll through today's program, A couple of things
that are ridiculous. Splash Mountain. I bet a huge percentage
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of you who have been to Disney World at some
point in your lives know this ride. One of the
most popular and iconic rides in all of America. They
are shutting it down. It's the final day at Disney
World because of the connection to Splash Mountain and a
old Disney movie from the nineteen forties that they have
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deemed to be racist, and so they are redoing the
entire ride. Yes, this is the world we live in.
An amusement park ride based in some degree on Joel
Chandler Harris. I believe his stories that were told back
in the eighteen eighties. Song of the South was a
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movie that was made on it. We need to dive
into this, we'll talk about it. Also, our good friend
Beyonce supposedly took twenty four million dollars to perform in
the Middle East, despite the fact that she has been
ridiculing everyone out there for not being woken up in
the United States. Buck, I just want to know, Clay,
are you somebody who celebrates Beyonce's whole catalog of songs
(01:30):
or you like me and get everyone mad at you
apparently because you think good but overrated. I don't have
a strong I understand some people are like totally in
love with Beyonce. I don't really have a strong opinion
on her. Like Rihanna is playing at the at the
super Bowl, and I like Rihanna more than Beyonce, right, Like,
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if you told me you can pick five songs, and
I'm not talking about the entire catalog, because I'm not
one of these people who sits around and watches or
listens to entire catalogs. But if you told me you
can pick five songs from either Rihanna or Beyonce, I
would go Rihanna. And so Rihanna, I'm gonna be out
in Arizona doing the show because Fox has a Super
Bowl this year. Rihanna is the halftime performer, and I'm
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actually kind of excited to see how Rihanna's halftime performance
might go. So it would probably I don't know if
We've unleashed a whirlwind there with that take. Are they
gonna like wheel out the Rolling Stones again? You know,
better than Beyonce. If you're Auntie, I like Taylor Swift
better than Beyond. I would probably say Taylor Swift. If
I were power ranking singers, you know, women singers in
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the last twenty years, I'd probably put Taylor Swift at
my number one seed. Who would you put number one?
The greatest in my lifetime? I would say Whitney Houston
And but it's just a singer, or like, do you
really like that many Whitney Houston songs? Like are you
running around like listening to the Bodyguard while you work out?
Excuse me, I will rock out to I'm Every Woman whenever?
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Or that comes on a great song. Did you see
the U that there was supposedly a transgender uproar about
the song natural Woman being unacceptable to them? Well, I
know that wasn't it. Who was it that? Did Shania Twain? Man,
I feel like a woman? I believe you're not allowed
to play that song anymore? Really? Yeah, I think there's
(03:21):
like comments into the transgender community. Yes, well, because she
didn't she didn't feel like a woman. Maybe she or
you know, one doesn't feel like a woman. Woman either
is or is not based upon feelings, but we're not
allowed to talk about that. That is UM. When they
started canceling Baby, it's cold outside, I was like, literally,
they're canceling everything. Here's well, you didn't even plan on this.
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But do you still enjoy Michael Jackson music? I have
gone back and forth with people on this many times.
I think Michael Jackson is now. I think the legacy
is so tainted that it feels that it actually feels.
And that's a very high bar for me with artists
meeting like you have to be. It has to be
really bad for the art to be so tainted by
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the person. You know. I still think The Pianist, for example,
is a fantastic movie. Or The Pianist, um, But obviously
if you know about the director, you know you might have.
But I don't even know about the director. Oh yeah,
Like I mean, like Kevin Spacey, I would not enjoy
UM and Bill Cosby, right, there are lots of people
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out there that have been uh certainly uh, I think
I think Cosby's I think Cosby is at that same level.
Like you couldn't enjoy the Cosby Show now like you'd
think wife about it bills like cutting the cutting the
cake and stealing a piece, or like I can't, I
can't watch this anymore. I'm willing to put aside as
much as I can to enjoy art for what it
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is and not take the politics or the history of
the individual into account too much. But I do think
that there's a line. And look, I think Michael Jackson
has one of the greatest song catalogs, certainly of the
modern era, and just in terms of of the tunes themselves,
I think it's I think it's hard these days too,
you know, which would anyone go to? There used to
be like Michael Jackson theme nights at a bar that
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I know. I mean, I'll give you one that I'm
that I'm deciding right now. Uh Sark to Sol has
a Michael Jackson performance, you know, has like eight different
Michael Jordan's uh Michael Jackson performances. And my kids love
Michael Jackson songs like they grew up listening to uh
to those songs. And we're gonna be in I'm doing
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the show tomorrow, Thursday and Friday in Vegas because the
kids have a dance competition that they're in, and I
was thinking like, hey, maybe maybe I'll take them to
the micause how much kids stuff is there in Vegas.
So I think, by the way, that's I don't know,
I don't think. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I
think that's a tough one for me. Uh. You know,
you're you're you're the dads. You've got You've got dad
(05:53):
hours in, You've got experience making these kinds your kids.
At what age do you sit them down and be like, hey,
there are sexual assault allegations against Michael Jackson. You know,
do I sit down my eight year old and explain
that he can't like bad because it's yeah, it's all allegations,
as we know, I mean the rape allegations against miners.
So it's about as heinous and serious a crime as
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as as can be committed. Um. So that's I will say.
If we're creating a standard here for when you can
I think if it doesn't cross the line into criminality,
I think I can. I'm usually okay with it, and
I think it doesn't cross. Yes, no, No, What I'm
saying is, you know, if somebody's like Tim Robbins, I
love the Shawshank redemption. Even though Tim Robbins might have
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the most annoying politics on the planet, there are some
others that are like. But like, I could separate that
stuff if you get a dui or you know, the
kind of crimes that you know, normal people were imperfect.
Once you get into you know, anything like murder, you
would take Michael Jackson off your like if you had
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an iPad playlist or whatever you is on none of
my Spotify playlist right now? What about you sing about
your fiance? What about Kerry? I'd have to ask her.
I don't Yeah, I mean, actually, I'm generally curious. I
know that she finds Taylor Swift's politics so annoying that
she's nope, not on the t Swift train. Yeah. Well,
I like Taylor Swift even though her politics are awful,
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and I would go see a concert if I didn't
have to pay twenty thousand dollars to go see a
concert of Taylor Swift. But we had to make this
decision during because the documentary on Michael Jackson came out
and we on the morning radio show, my sports talk
radio show, we played a lot of different music, same
thing with R Kelly now r Kelly. Because he's still
alive and can't and was found guilty, I can be like, Okay,
(07:41):
I don't need to hear Trapped in a Closet episode
forty seven. But Michael Jackson, I feel like, because he
died and he wasn't able to defend himself for those documentaries,
he was never found guilty in a court of law,
which his defenders are always going to bring up, and
you know, they'll say, what about the presumption of innocence?
The presumption of innocence as it now? I mean, I'm
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I don't find their case persuasive, but I'm just saying,
this is the case of the I think that that's
kind of what I'm going through my head right now
with the Circus Sola in Vegas, because there's a lot
of things for kids that are wildly inappropriate in Vegas.
So I was like, Okay, what things out there could
the kids go see? And I'm like, oh, the Michael
Jackson Circus LA. But do I have to sit down
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with my twelve year old At what age do you
have the conversation about the allegations against Michael Jackson with
your kids? Even like a circus back in the day.
I mean, you know, Circus La a Circus of the Sun.
But even the old school circus, which you would think
would be among the most family friendly fair possible, right,
you know, the kid to the like traveling circus back. Oh,
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but people get very I don't think there are traveling
circuses anymore. That's what I'm saying. People get very upset
about the circus as an enslavement of animals that is
inherently abusive because of the travel and the close cores
and the training they go through. So even the old
school animal circus, a lot of people, a lot of
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people can they ban the circus because my oldest is
about to turn fifteen, and I took him when he
was three or four. So this is something that's happened
in the last decade, Like you can't go to a
circus anymore in the United States. Yeah, they don't even know, right,
because the animal rights activists are one they're well, yeah,
they get they get very they get very Look, I mean,
an elephant doesn't really want to be whipped and told
to sit on a stool. I will say I think
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that they're I think that they're onto something with this.
And also that the quarters. It's not like they're in
the Bronx Zoo and some massive environmental enclosure that's supposed
to look and mimic like their natural habitat. They're moving
around in rail cars basically, So no, I do that.
If the logic applies for the circus, I would think
it would apply for a zoo too, right, because nobody
would prefer to be enclosed. Yeah, Clay, that's the next left,
(09:51):
the next level. Gosh, we're gonna get sponsored by Peter
if this keeps up. People think that zoos unless it's
a specialized breeding program to keep an or it's a
semi domesticated animal. People have a lot of problems with
zoos too in the animal animal welfare community. So I
just come across this stuff because I love dogs a lot,
and when you talk to like dog lovers, you know,
(10:13):
and you see what they're what they're also supporting a
lot of time online and be like, oh, we need
to end zoos. You're like, WHOA, I thought zoos were
the good games aggressive. I mean, I don't know what
they would do with all the animals in the zoo.
Would they release them back into the wild to immediately
be killed because they've been living in captivity forever. I
don't know what you do with them all. See, that's
also the problem is that, Okay, I mean, I guess
it's better to be you know, it's better to be
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out there. You know, there are housecats and there are wildcats, right,
but if you're a wildcat, you know, the neighborhood, the
neighborhood mutt might get a hold of you. And if
you're out there on the on the planes of you know,
the jungles of the Amazon or the planes of Africa,
you get eaten real fasts. So yeah, don't have a
lot of survival of the fittest skills coming out of
the zoo. I would also almost guarantee you that where
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I live in the Red States, they are never shutting
down zoos. And actually there would be a huge business
advantage because if the Blue States started shutting down all
their zoos, all the Blue state people would travel to
the Red States to take their kids to the zoo.
You know, you know how you're a Civil War nerd
because you went to Civil War Camp. Yes, I went
to Bronx Zoo Camp Clay. So this has been in
me for a long time. I went to a camp
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at a zoo where we just walked around and we
actually got to like a hold and there's a Bronx
Zoo and a Central Park Zoo. Like, yeah, the Central
Park Zoo is like really a place where you have
cocktails while you watch the seals splash around. It's very small,
it's very kind of it's the Bronck Zoo is a
big zoo. Like the Bronx Zoo is a massive, you know,
massive complex with you know, a whole other level. It's
(11:40):
more I think like the San Diego Zoo, I think
is a really tremendous zoo. But I don't know. Maybe
we definitely need to talk about the news today at
some point. I'm sorry. So I got a couple of
different things. One as we get ready for break, I
laid out a couple of things. But they're now going
to make the COVID shot yearly. It is officially the
flu shot. COVID is the flu remember when you couldn't
say that. We've got a great clip of our buddy
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Joe Scarborough, who used to represent one of the greatest
places in the United States, the Panhandle of Florida, and
now has lost his mind. He got COVID and says
that the reason why he got COVID bad is because
he only had three shots, not four shots. This really
happened this morning on MSNBC. We'll play that cut for
you when we come back, because I think you guys
will all love as the insanity continues to grow. But first, buck,
(12:25):
what you got for us? Well, we've also got fantastic
guest today, Clay Andy McCarthy of National Review on the
lad situation, spasified docks that'll be Did you see did
you see just now on Fox News? They had a
flashing breaking news. There's a report, a report not confirmed,
that Mike Pence has had classified documents found in this house.
I just saw that on Fox News. I'm serious, I'm serious.
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This is like, oh boy. We'll see if that's that
ends up being confirmed or not. We also have Pompeo,
speaking of former Trump officials, Mike Pompeo is going to
join us and we'll talk to him about going on
in Ukraine. Something really big is happening right now actually
in terms of our involvement in Ukraine, will get into
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Clay Ann Buck. It is confirmed. We mentioned this breaking
news a couple of minutes ago. The breaking news is
or was correct. It is now just news news. Um
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Mike Pence has had classified documents found at his home,
about a dozen of them right now. This is this
is a situation. I this is just getting absurd and
it makes me think that you know, a lot of
these former officials probably have classified in their homes, and
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I have to On the one hand, Clay, it's there's
the absurdity of this Biden with the rage where he
was holding it near the corvette, you know, safe near
the corvette, you know, the whole thing. But when I
was in the agency, when I was in the CIA,
I knew this. Everyone knew this. And anyone who's listening
who had a clearance in the military, FBI, any of
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the I think there's seventeen intelligencies now the federal government.
I think there used to be sixteen. Any of those places,
this would be considered an egregious, an egregious you know,
shortcoming laps crime, whatever you want to. I mean, depending
on the circumstances of it, but it's a big deal
if you're just a normal person. The law is supposed
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to be the law. I'm just gonna put this out there.
Republican Democrat, you know you're not supposed to do this.
And how can we have people who get sent to
Leavenworth for six months for a minor infraction, even sometimes
in the field and the war zones have classified when
we have the top people at the very at the
very elite level of the National security apparatus tree this
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stuff like you know, they're using them like cocktail napkins
or something, just strewing them about the table. I think
what it shows is there's clearly a double standard in
terms of how people who are considered to be at
elite levels of power, right vice president's, president's high level,
probably senators, When you're at the apex of power, the
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rules are not being applied to you anywhere anywhere near
the same level. And I think this just further solidifies
that there's not going to be any charges brought on
anything related to the Trump classified documents, And to me
just kind of further elucidates how much of an overreaction
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and fever pitch there was surrounding all the Trump classified documents,
because the one thing you would say about Mike Pence,
I think is that basically his brand is moral rectitude. Right,
that would be how Mike Hints would sell himself. I
think to the larger community that he's a paragon of morality.
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I think that's a big part of his brand. And
if he even he has classified documents, it's kind of
the point where you assume that everybody does. And also,
I think there's at this broader level a recognition now
that all that stuff from last summer about Trump and
the Marlago documents, and he's practically handing away the crown
jewels of national security to our enemies. He needs to
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be prosecuted. He's a monster. There's such honestly, man, CNN
and The New York Times, they're just such a bunch
of fraudulent little babies. And the whole thing is so ridiculous.
I mean, look at this now, the funny classified over
place anyone want to place bets. If you were to
go through, oh, I don't know, some of the Clinton residences,
you might find some of this stuff. Well, certainly I
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Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us as we roll through the Tuesday edition of
the program. A couple different things here, one Buck, I
remember when it was a conspiracy theory if you said
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that COVID was anything like the flu at all, it
was flat out impermissible to even suggest as much. Now
we know that COVID is basically the flu, and we
continue to have gobs of money spent by Fiser and
Maderna trying to persuade people to get the COVID shot.
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And I really noticed this, Buck in the NFL playoffs,
where the amount of advertisements for these shots is through
the roof during commercial breaks, even on radio breaks. I
mean some of you have told us, I mean, it's
not like we choose what commercial as you know, ads run.
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They've run some of these Fiser and Maderna shots during
our podcast. You ever see this, like emails from people
saying like Hey, you know, why is this person advertising
during your podcast or why is this thing come out
like this may come as a shock to you, but
Buck and I do not choose all of the advertisements
that run during the course of during the course of
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our program. But they're spending money hand over fist. Maderna
and Fiser are to try to make you think that
these shots work. And this I want to play an
audio clip for you in a moment, Buck. But the
newest is the FDA is reportedly going to recommend that
everyone get a yearly COVID shot. So basically, we have
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created for Fiser and Maderna a yearly annuity of profitable
revenue for a shot that is going to provide virtually
no benefit to huge majorities of people in the country.
Tree and we still have these crazy people. And I
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really think at this point there should be an investigation
because I'm sure that Fizer and Maderna spend a ton
of money on MSNBC and on Morning Joe and So
Joe Scarborough. I oh, he teach this a little bit earlier.
He represents the Panhandle of Florida. I don't think Buck's
been to the Panhandle of Florida. Yet I love it.
We're building a house like I would spend substantial portions
(21:26):
of my life and plan to do it down on
the Panhandle of Florida between Panama City and destined little
postage stamp area called thirty A where full don't move
down or vacation there. But buck I gotta tell you
this is so crazy. I don't understand how anybody is
(21:46):
still trusting Scarborough on this issue at all. He says
he's already gotten three COVID shots and he got COVID
really bad, and his biggest takeaway was I should have
gotten the fourth shot that would have helped a listen,
I had not gotten my COVID booster, which one fourth
(22:07):
the fourth, because you know, we went to London then
got covivid. Yeah, got completely knocked down for a while.
We found out the boosters the vaccines, they don't stop
the disease, but they certainly do make a big impact.
And stead of me being down for a month with fatigue,
if they'd taken the booster, I would have probably sneezed
and said what was that and kept coming. So I
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love when people go, oh, I'm not going to couz
and deference So you still get COVID. That's not the
purpose of it. That's never been the purpose of the
flu shot, and so it builds up your resistance, just
like actually getting COVID builds up your resistance. It actually
is u sometimes the purpose of the flu shot. I mean,
when he said it was never the purpose, he's actually wrong.
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I'm sure there's a clip of him saying, get the
COVID shot. You'll never get COVID. You'll never have to
worry about it again. So that's actually how they got
people to get the first two. I should probably we
should probably just tweet it good old Joe, you know,
good old former Republican Joe Scarborough. Isn't it amazing? Can
you imagine being an adult and for any amount of money,
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just completely repudiating everything you've ever believed in and attacking
everybody that you spent thirty or forty years of your
life completely you know, supporting and agreeing with. I think
that's amazing. I think that the psycho the psychological acrobatics
to be a total turn coat, not to evolve on
one issue or to change on a few things, but
to say I went from my team good to my
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team terrible. I just don't think MSNBC can pay any
one enough money for that, but well apparently they can.
But you know, you can also sell your soul. Look,
we should just tell Joe you just didn't take the virus. Seriously, buddy,
didn't mask up hard enough, didn't get that fourth shot.
You know, book three shots and you get COVID, And evidently,
according to him, he got COVID bad. And his first
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thought is this is a result of me not getting
the fourth shot. Yes, but if you three shots for something,
anything in the world, and you still got the thing
that you got the shot for, and you got it
according to him in a really severe way, what kind
of normal human says, Oh, it was because I didn't
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get the fourth shot. Right, Well, think about the the
actual COVID fatality rate, which they're going to have to
do a total redo of all these numbers, now that
we know that there's been over massive overcounting of debts,
which people barely even talk about right now. I mean,
the chance of somebody of Scarborough's roughly speaking age and
health dying from COVID is you know, one in ten
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thousand probably. I mean, when you really look at the numbers,
it's actually quite small, and so he's saying it would
have been worse had I not gotten the shot. What
is he basing that off of, Like, there's no there's
no actual numbers or data to support this. But this
is also why part of the COVID religion and you see,
you see all these parallels. There's a climate change religion,
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there's a COVID religion. These are belief systems that the
left and Democrats globally and here at home replace traditional religion,
a belief in God and a relationship with God. They
replace it with these these belief systems. But this is
why you had the I just got COVID. It was
really bad. I'm so thankful that I got my shot, though, genuflection.
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You had you had to do that. Oh but but
just so everybody knows, you know, a normal human reaction
is I got a shot for something and got sick anyway,
and it was pretty crappy, and my chances of a
worse outcome than what I already had were infinitesimal. That's
what a normal person would think, totally. And sometimes you
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have to take it outside of COVID because there's so
much political obsession with COVID that people have a lot
of fixed thoughts in their mind. So if you're talking
to someone and you hear them say something like Joe
Scarborough just pre COVID. If you had gotten three shots
for the measles and then you still got the measles,
(26:02):
and you got the measles really bad, wouldn't you wouldn't
your natural reaction be like, man, that was a really
crappy three shot measles vaccine that I got. I don't
ever remember a conversation in the past, Buck where you
would get multiple shots for anything and still get the
underlying virus. In any way, we've already conditioned us to
(26:23):
believe that this is actually normal. It isn't. No one
ever had these conversations two years ago. Well, we know
how they would do the risk analysis without all of
the fauci ideology and the worship of the shot that
the Democrats created here, which is the flu, which is
what we talked about all along, and what they'll tell
you what the flu. And this has been the case
(26:43):
for as long as we've been alive. Clay is probably
get it if you're at risk. There are a few
categories of people who are at risk. But even if
you get it. It doesn't mean you're not gonna get it.
And also you could get it and still die, so
good luck. Yes, Actually, that's that's flu reality out there
for anybody who needs a quick refresher, which is also
(27:05):
the same thing with COVID at this point. And I
would wonder if you really lined it up how much
the effectiveness of the COVID shot versus your average FLU shot,
which one is more? You know, I couldn't tell you offhand,
and I think there's very little that people could tell
you in general based on the numbers, because I think
they don't want to do the analysis well. And I
would also just say this for everybody out there who's listening,
(27:29):
who might be working in an Attorney General's office, how
in the world is this not fraud? I just come
back around again and again too. We were fraudulently induced
by for profit companies in Fiser and Maderna to get
shots that they sold us would do something that they
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did not. They said it was the COVID. They said
it would also keep you from spreading it. Both those
things are a lie. The problem is you have a
situation where they can not have known because we forced
them or the system pushed them. They will say into
a schedule. They couldn't have known what the shots would
look like in a year because they made them in
(28:11):
less than a year. Yeah, so they so they're just
gonna say, how could we have known? You guys wanted this.
To prove fraud, whether it's corporate fraud or anything else,
you usually have to have either, you know, egregious malpractice
of some kind that is apparent. You know, we just
weren't keeping any books and we're you know FTX, Right,
that's just all we were also screwed up, we don't know.
But really to prove it, you need some You need
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to be able to show that people actively lied on
material matters to the public on an issue. Right. So
I just find it hard to believe that they didn't
have early signs, really early signs that what they were
continuing to advertise about the efficacy of the shots was
not Actually this is not a popular thing to say,
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but I believe it will be seen as true. And
I'd like to say things that I think are true,
even if they're going to get me some heat. I
think Clay the vaccine companies structured this, including the way
they set up their test groups, so that it's impossible
to know. You know that they made it so broad
and so vague and so oh, we're just gonna give
the shots to everybody. Doesn't work. You know that it
will be effectively impossible to prove the fraud. Do you see?
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You know what I mean? No, I mean I can certainly.
I mean I understand what their defense will be, and
I think you're hitting on what their defense will be.
Not to mention, they'll claim that they have immunity. But
I still think the lawsuit should be brought. And we
have a big government, Like, let's take advantage of a
big government maybe and say, hey, okay, why don't you
just return all the profits? Right, let's just you return
(29:40):
taxpayers gave you a profit. I think people are forgetting this.
We funded. They keep saying, oh, these shots are free.
The shots are not free. We are all paying for them.
Give us all the profits back. Just return well, you
know it'll be a flat cost for you, and give
us all the profits back from these shots because you
have in many ways behaved in a fraudulent way. We
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as we are coming in from the break there. That
is the top Gun primary soundtrack song, and it has
(31:33):
been nominated for Best Picture along with Avatar, Buck's Favorite,
which has now gone over two billion dollars worldwide. Avatar
has sixth highest grossing movie of all time. Now, admittedly
they don't adjust that for inflation, but Buck, when important
important Avatar question? Yes, Avatar one was trash and I'll
(31:57):
follow my sword. I don't care. It's just never, never
gonna budge on this one. It's a garbage movie. I
know it made a bajillion dollars, but it's a garbage movie.
Did they charge twenty dollars? Is this the three D
thing again where they're charging people's special three D? But
they definitely put it on imax. I watched it out
in Park City with my kids, and we were in
(32:18):
a state what I would call a standard you know,
like movie theater, and you know, the cost was normal.
But that's why when they say, like the highest grossing
movies of all time. It should totally be inflation adjusted,
because certainly we're talking about ten percent inflation. I don't
know how much movie ticket prices have gone up lately,
but it cost way more to go to a movie
(32:39):
in twenty twenty three than it did in nineteen thirty three.
I think so comparing that I remember, the wind is
not that fair. Yeah, I remember going to movies with
my parents in New York City growing up, and it
was like seven dollars for adults, and then they raised
it to nine dollars. It was like, oh man, that's
getting expensive. I rarely, if ever, go to movies these days.
(33:00):
It's like a once a year or every other year
event for me. I feel like I've been to movie
theaters where it's like twenty five dollars a person, you know,
and if you get some popcorn and some sodas, go
to the movie will run you one hundred bucks. For
a family of four. It definitely has gotten way more expensive.
We go to the movies quite a bit with the kids. Like,
I'm looking at these movies, the Oscar's best pictures. I
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have seen Top Gun, I've seen Avatar, did you see Elvis?
I've heard Elvis is not bad, and you did you
watch All Quiet on the Western Front? Didn't you say
that was wrong? On Netflix? It is excellent. It's excellent
picture too. I heard it was good. Yeah that after
any of you who you know think you know enjoy
a very good, very realistic war movie. All Quiet on
(33:46):
the Western Front is really exceptional. And then my wife
ordered the banshees of insuring or I don't even know
how you pronounce that initiality. Oh it was awful. I mean,
I like almost all movies. This was the most depressing,
awful movie that I've seen in a long time. I
don't like to be a hater, so that's why I
love to give credit where it's due. The Top Gun
(34:08):
movies amazing. I hope it wins Best Picture that way.
I think Reinvigorate may make it the best picture. A
lot of people just the notion of a great, super entertaining,
well made movie that everyone can love and that is
not meant to be a lecture on some political issue
of the moment. So I would love that for Top Gun.
I think that All Quiet in the Western Front is amazing.
And I don't mean to be nasty, but I just
(34:30):
think Colin Farrell is the maybe the most overrated actor
of our generation. I've never seen him in anything where
I didn't think he made this movie kind of worse,
and I thought he was actually pretty good. It was
just the most awful. Did anybody else on the show
in the background here see the band? She did anyone
like this movie? You could tweet? Tried to have a
Sexton family movie night with this one. I played that,
(34:51):
you know, with my parents and Carrie and my brothers.
We played the trailer and everybody was like, nah, not
doing it. It was the right call, and it was
so depressing. It was awful. There's people chopping their fingers off,
I mean, and like I had to go pick up
my kid halfway through, and Laura and I were watching
it and she was like, you want me to pause it.
(35:12):
I was like, just watch it if you want to.
I'm out. I was actually glad to have to go
drive and pick up one of my kids. That's how
bad it was. So you want obviously top gun. Is
there anything else on the lift? I mean, the everything
everywhere all at once. With eleven Oscar nominations, I have
been soaked. I've tried to get carried to sit through
that movie with me, or to start that movie. It's
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several times oddsmakers expect it to be the best picture,
And I'll just say that every time we've tried, we
look at the trailer and it just looks so strange
that we've we've kind of bailed at the last minute.
So I just I think it would be a huge
statement if Hollywood would put Top Gun Maverick in the
Best Picture seat, because nobody watches the Oscars anymore, because
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by and large, a lot of people haven't seen these movies,
and they reward like these usually very left wing, like uh,
you know, not very enjoyable films, And so I feel
like if they gave Top Gun Maverick the Best Picture, yes,
all the movie purest would be upset. But I think
it was like Titanic one Best Picture, like twenty five
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years ago. Right, It used to be in our youth
that the movie that was just the most awesome movie
of the year a lot of the time won the
best one Best picture. That was a thing theater like,
it was not uncommon Gladiator like You're You're Right, like
movies that people genuinely went and see and liked. One
pretty regularly, and the last ten years it has been
(36:40):
like the Wokeness Awards for a lot of the Oscars.
I mean they come up with movies that went I've
never even heard of these movies. But you're right, if
they want to make it relevant again, how about pick
a movie that's relevant to people, as in they go
see it. Tom Cruise is never one best actor. If
you're the greatest actor of your generation, should you Wan
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