August 27, 2021 • 36 mins
Update on the bombing in Kabul. Deteriorating Biden in his press conference, Buck says, was visual representation of America's decline. Biden seemed tired, befuddled, weak, confused, not what you want from a commander-in-chief. Kamala or Joe? Callers weigh in on who's worse. Officer who shot unarmed Ashli Babbitt says she posed a threat, says he's a hero -- something Clay says he can't remember another police officer ever saying.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to the Friday edition of The
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck here
with my MainMan, Clay Big Stories to get to the
aftermath of the horrific suicide bombing attack yesterday, the Biden
administration addressing it. I'm not sure that Joe Biden did
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anything to calm nerves for a lot of people watching
his speech last night. We will dive into that together. Plus,
you have the Supreme Court striking down the obviously flatly unconstitutional,
mean blatantly lawless extension of a eviction moratorium or really
the new eviction moratorium that they created. That's gone now,
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so landlords finally have the right to their property again.
And then last night Lieutenant Bird of the Capitol Hill
Police came out to explain why he shot Ashley Babbitt
in the neck despite the fact that she was unarmed,
she was on the other side of what was still
a locked door. He gave his explanation for use of force.
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Lesser Halt gave him a very favorable interview over on
NBC and Clay and I will be discussing that. But
first you have President Joe Biden yesterday addressing the nation,
and it really honestly seemed like you had someone who
in many ways represented in visual form the decline of
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US power and prestige on the world stage. Biden seemed tired, befuddled,
week confused. Not what you want from a commander in chief.
After a mass casualty attack like the one that occurred yesterday,
one hundred and seventy is the most recent number we
have seen in terms of casualties. It was even more
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than anticipated. One hundred and seventy deaths, thirty two I'm sorry,
one hundred and thirty two others still unidentifiable in terms
of whether we're talking about men, women, children. It's an
absolute grizzly, horrific scene there, and we lost thirteen of
our own thirteen United States military personnel in this mission.
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Here is Joe Biden after this happens, first of all,
telling everybody that sorry, after a war, people get left behind.
When you continue to try to get you out, it matters. Look,
I know of no conflict as a student of history,
no conflict where when a war was ending, one side
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was able to guarantee that everyone they wanted to be
extracted from that country. Would get out and think about it, folks,
make it's important. I know the American people get this
in their gut. So we're going to leave people behind?
It seems to me, Clay, it's just a question of who.
This is what Joe Biden is saying after what happened yesterday, Buck,
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I hate that this is the situation we're in on
so many different levels. But Joe Biden seems to me,
and I know a lot of you out there as well,
every time I see him speak it's as if he
has aged and deteriorated. Further, I don't know whether he's
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going to be able to make it four years. Arguably,
other than people who have died in office in their
first eight months, Buck, Since Joe Biden is a student
of history, I am as well. I can't think of
a presidency that has been worse in its first eight
months than Joe Biden's. Now, you had some guys, you know,
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get pneumonia when they were giving their inaugural address and
end up dying unhealthy in their first eight months, certainly,
but this is this is really I think, even for
the most died in the wool Democrat believer. You can't
watch Joe Biden speak right now and think to yourself,
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this is a guy who's got over three years left
in the presidency, because but look at the pictures of
guys who are relatively young in the twenty first century
who have gone into office George W. Bush, Barack Obama,
Bill Clinton bridging into the twenty first century. Obviously Trump
only served one term. They age the presidency is such
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a weight on your shoulders that for a seventy eight
year old Joe Biden buck I mean, are you with
me that you look at him and this is not
even analyzing necessarily the politics, but just looking at him physically,
I don't see how he's going to be able to
stand up for over three more years in the most
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difficult job in all of the country. And to say
nothing of his decision making or of those things. Just
physically and mentally, I don't think he's got the wherewithal
to be president over three more years. He was never impressive.
This is the part of it that I think gets
left behind. It's not as though Joe Biden is the
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aging political genius or rock star or whatever it may be.
He was just a bin around a long time, played
the game the way he had to to keep his
Senate seat in Delaware. Guy, and now he's been thrust
into this role. I mean, I think it was he
was in some ways perfect maybe to be the vice
president because the Obama administration didn't want anybody who was
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going to overshadow or that's a real challenge. They weren't
going to let Hillary Clinton be the vice president. And
so that's though, where what happens now is we see
that Joe Biden is in this role. He is the president,
and he's supposed to be projecting not only calm and
command to the American people, but, let's be honest, an
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air of menace to our enemies. I mean, we're the
enemies of the United States are supposed to think this
is a guy we don't want to cross. And here's
where he made his pitch that you know, we're essentially
gonna come after you and we're not going to allow
this to go without reprisal. To those who carried out
this attack as well as anyone who wishes America harm,
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know this, we will not forgive. We will not forget.
We will hunt you down and make you pay. I'll
defend our interests in our people with every measure at
my command. Clay, two things on this. The first of all,
to our conversation about how this president is doing and
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appears in the role. And I agree with you, and
I've I've always said this, I don't like you know,
I try to avoid you. People will call him you
know the you know the dementia patient presidents. You know,
that's really serious stuff. But he's the commander in chief.
He's got to be in the role. So he is
deteriorating the way we could see it. And for any
normal I mean, for any normal situation, you just you'd
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feel sorry, you'd want people to take care of this guy. Yes, Instead,
he's been thrust upon us as the commander in chief.
So I don't think that it comes across in the
way it's opposed to as this is a guy who
our enemies feel like is going to make that decision
at you know, the three am phone call in a
way that we'll make our enemies feel like they're on
notice and that there will be consequences. But beyond that, Clay,
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going after what we're going to track down ices K
or whatever element of jihadism did this that does nothing
for the next four days. Right, First of all, we're
not going to track him down in the next four days.
We don't have the assets through it. We don't have
the attention or the time right now. We got to
get Americans out. But I mean, bringing this up, it
just felt so hollow. As soon as he said it.
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I watched this buck and it felt like somebody was
trying to play a role and they didn't have the
acting chops to pull it off. And I know a
little bit about not having the acting chops to pull
it off because I'm the worst actor of all time.
We use skits for our television show on FS one,
and everybody else on the show makes fun of me
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because I can't memorize lines. I can say exactly what
I think unscripted, but as soon as you start having
me memorize lines, I fall apart. And it felt like
Joe Biden was trying to play a role in the
way that he was talking there. The problem is, I
don't think anyone out there actually fears Joe Biden in
any way. And look, there's an obsession. There's an obsession
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because of Twitter with playing nice, right, with being likable
and all these things, and sometimes you just gotta be.
And I gotta be careful what word I use here,
because I don't want to get us FCC violated. But
sometimes you gotta be. And I'm just gonna use it
as a euphemism. Sometimes you have to just be a
total jerk, right, you can't always be mister nice guy.
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And when Joe Biden tries to pivot and show that
he has a you know, that he that he's willing
to throw a punch, it doesn't register, right, It just
doesn't register. Just like some of you out there know
you had a parent at some point who you knew
was never going to spank you, like when you were
a kid growing up, So the threat of a spanking,
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you're like, yeah, you're not gonna do that. Like that's
what the government other governments around the world, I think,
see what Joe Biden, even the most loving family dog
you want to have capable of growling and showing teeth.
That's a that's a good analogy. And you know that's
I think that's true for all of us. It's certainly
true for the commander in chief here. And you know,
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I just keep I use that title even more than
President right now, because that's really the role that he's
thrust into, right I mean, yes, he's both, but right now,
it's this is the guy who's making the top level
decisions for the United States military. This is who all
the generals go to. Sir, What do we do? Sir?
How do we? Yes? How do we go forward? And
I got to tell you the form commander in chief
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before him who every special operations guy I talked to you,
and I know a lot of them, every person I
know who is a door kicker, a war fighter. They
just felt like he was a guy who got it
and would give them the orders that need to be
given to protect the American people. Here's former President Trump
on what he saw yesterday. Our country is really in trouble,
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and it's only going to get worse. What you're watching
now is only going to get worse. It can only
go one way. We had something where they didn't get
near us. They were petrified of us. I let them
know that if they do anything, we hit them right
where it hurts, which is their homes. And they know it,
and they were waiting for us. They would have been
very happy to let us go and take every American
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and anybody else, we want to take our equipment, and
for some reason he watched the plan and took the
military at first. Now it's a very sad day for
our country and a great embarrassment. Beyond embarrassment, it's a
very dangerous day for our country. I mean, Clay, we
lost We lost more American serviceman yesterday than we've lost
in Afghani in one day than we've lost in Afghanistan
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in years, ten years, ten years, Buck, is the number
that I saw out there ten years. This was the
deadliest day we've had in Afghanistan in ten years. And
I think it's all at the feet of Joe Biden.
And unfortunately, Buck, you and I for the past two
weeks had been saying this is where we were trending.
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And I just feel awful for all those people out
there on the ground in Afghanistan trying to protect our
country's interest in all of their families back here, that
they have a commander in chief, because Buck, you and
I don't want to have an impotent commander in chief,
even if you are the most died in the Wold
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Republican and there's a Democrat president or the most died
in the wold Democrat and there's a Republican president. You
don't want a week American president. We need somebody who
can uplift our interest and Joe Biden is not that
I want. I honestly wanted Joe Biden to wind down
this war with the just you know, and continue on
with the Trump administration trajectory here in a way that
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we would have had almost no real criticism of how
it was conducted because that would have met Americans would
have stayed alive. That would have meant our people got
back home. That's what we were actually rooting for. It's
not what we are getting. And we owe it to
everybody in this country to be honest about that. This
is a debacle. It's not a partisan talking point. It
is we'll come back into a clay. I also want
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to post to you if Biden did resign, would that
even make you feel better? Can we can we come
back to that question. He's not obviously going to resign,
but just to play out this theoretical we'll come back
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Sexton Show. We're rolling through the Friday edition of the program.
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Open line Friday's, by the way, we'll take some of
your calls during the course of the program. Alex Barrenson,
by the way, is going to join us. We're trying
to basically get him slotted in on Fridays as all
this chaos surrounding COVID continues. We've obviously been focused a
lot on Afghanistan this week, but we're gonna talk with
Alex Barrenson Jack Carr for the latest on the ground
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in Afghanistan to start off the second hour of the program.
But buck Sexton ask a good question as we went
to break, would you even feel better if Joe Biden
stepped down knowing that Kamala Harris is waiting in the wings.
And I'll answer that question I'm also curious what fuck
thinks about it. But first, this, to me, it was
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not a great press conference and speech from Joe Biden
at all yesterday afternoon, But this, to me was the
personification of why Joe Biden is in over his head.
Listen to this as he prepared to take questions from
the media. This is Joe Biden yesterday, Ladies and gentlemen.
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Gave me a list here. The first person I was
instructed to call on was Kelly O'donald nbclay. What the
heck is that? It's so unbelievably embarrassing that the president
of the United States cannot actually pick his own people
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to call on. And even if you have a list,
which we know he does, because there's been pictures sometimes
that go out virally of a list of people that
Joe Biden is going to call in an order. I
just wonder about all of this in terms of his
mental faculties. Look, you can criticize Donald Trump, and god
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knows he got criticized for everything, but he would stand
and take questions sometimes for hours from the media, calling
on people both favorable and unfavorable to him, and and
and all of his press people came out and said
we never gave him a list and said, hey, you're
gonna call on this person first. It was like Gulliver
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with the Lilliputians trying to, you know, hold him down
an attack him. And Trump was was they would there
be a frenzy during these gaggles and sprays and these
things they do, and Trump would just look. It was
one of the most one of the more magnificent things
of his presidency. Was just one after another. You know you,
you know, be quiet, you not true you. That's where
he would take it. Joe Biden, it's this is the
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this is basement Biden, who is now having to walk
around and act like he actually knows what the heck
is going on and what's happening here Buck is. They
know what the questions are going to be, so they
are prepping him for, Hey, you're gonna get asked by
this person what that question is. And I wonder on
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some level, I don't know where the teleprompter is or
whether the media can see it as he is speaking,
but I feel like a lot of these questions they
have his answer already typed out for him, and he
is reading most of it off of the prompter too,
whether it's Biden or any other politician. If you don't
get them off script, if they're just gonna try to
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fillibuster by reading talking points, you're never going to find
out anything. Just remember that should be a general principle here.
You'll never learn anything. And Clay that I just want
to know you feel better if Kamala Harris is come
out to the the chief next week? Theoretically you do? You know,
I've spent a lot of time. Yeah, it's it's such
a great question because I spent a lot of time,
Like I feel like Kamala Harris is more mentally there,
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but I think she's going to make worst decisions even
than Joe. Let's throw it to the audience. Kamala or Joe.
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and get hooked up. Welcome back to Clay Travis and
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some big stories yet Today, of course, continuing coverage and
analysis of the massive suicide bombing attack at Cobble Airport yesterday.
We'll be joined by a former Navy sealed Jack Carr,
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friend of mine, great guy, bestselling author. In the second
out of the program, third out of the program of
Alex Barnson on everything going on right now, booster shots
getting moved up sooner, it seems Biden just spoke about this.
Get ready for those booster shots, folks, get ready for
the mandates, and schools get ready for corporate mandates. They're
gonna start with the hospital systems and then they're gonna
go all across the country. I don't know, maybe maybe
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we should try to stop it or else just wait,
you're gonna you're gonna be faced with lose your job,
or get the shot and get the shot again, and
get the shot again. But I don't know. I'd like
to I'd like to have us hold the line somewhere
on this. That's That's what I'm hoping to do, hoping
to find a way we can start that somewhere. But
interview last night on NBC News with Lieutenant Michael Bird,
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who it's been rumored, i think on the internet for
a while that he was in fact the individual involved here.
But he is the Capitol Hill police officer who shot
Ashley Babbitt the neck. Now, Clay and I, you know,
I've had some background in law enforcement and baseline tactical training.
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Clay obviously as a lawyer. We wanted to go through
some of this, and really, first of all, it was
they couldn't have tried to make it a more favorable
platform for Officer Bird's narrative. You'll hear that yourself. We
want to take this though, piece by piece and address
how I mean. For me, this is the whole thing
is outrageous because the politics involved are quite clear in
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terms of how this has been handled. But let's start
with Michael Bird saying that he showed tremendous courage in
the shooting. Of course I do. That is a very
vital point, and it's something that it's frightening. I believe
I showed the utmost carriage on January sixth, and it's
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time for me to do that now, the utmost courage, Clay.
Have you heard any of the officers involved in fatal
shootings that got a lot of national attention, and including
times when an assailant was reaching for a gun or
going for a knife. Have you heard any of them
ever say well, I showed tremendous courage and shooting that person. No,
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and if they did, we already have protests, but there
would be mass rioting in the streets. I want to
hear all these quotes, and I want our audience to
hear them all because I think with everything going on
with Afghanistan, reasonably this story has kind of slid under
the radar. But I want to keep playing these quotes,
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and I just want you, as you listen to these quotes,
just think what the reaction would be from blackwallis matter.
If a white police officer who shot an unarmed protester
had said all of these things, what the reaction would
be compared to the comparative crickets in response to this.
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Let's just keep playing these clips because again, I think
a large part of our audience has not heard all
of these quotes, and certainly, as you said, Buck, this
gentleman had not even been named prior to this interview
that he just decided to do. Here he is discussing
that he believed Ashley Babbitt was posing an imminent threat. Remember,
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this is an unarmed woman still on the other side
of the door, trying to break in and open a door.
He has the gun drawn for quite a plenty of time.
He can see exactly what's going on. It's on video.
We have video of this encounter. Here is what he says,
I'd been yelling and screaming as loud as I was,
please stop, get back, get back, stop. We had our
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weapons throwing. We see your arm out there for a
considerable amount of time. Were you wavering? I was taking
a tactical stance. You're ultimately hoping that your commands will
be complied with, and unfortunately they were not. What did
you think this individual was doing? Then? She was posing
a threat to United States House of Representatives. All right,
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lawyer Clay, she's posing a threat. How was she posing
more of a threat than we can see in the video?
There are people all pressed against the door. So under
this use of force justification, that's very specific, it seems
to this circumstance. And by the way, I've been all morning,
I've been checking in with law Enforce and friends of
mine who are back the Blue guys and another one.
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They say, you hit a Capitol Hill police officer in
the head with a rock or something. You know, you
got to serve time. They back law Enforce and they
say this is something else, Clay. If that's the use
of force justification, could this officer have unloaded his whole
clip and shot eight people up against that door? They
were all posted theory. Yes, in theory, that's the point, Buck, right,
And again, I don't like when we put ourselves in
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a position where we have to micro analyze every single
police officer in the moment. But I do think that
we need to apply consistent standards that are that are
equal to all police officers. And we've said this for
a long time. Look, I am a steadfast believer that
we need more police officers. Defund the police, the dumbest
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argument that's made in the twenty first century in American
political life. But every police officers not perfect. And certainly
I can't even remember Buck, hardly ever a police officer
come out and basically call himself a hero for shooting
an unarmed woman or man for that matter. I just
I can't remember it ever happening before. And I'm thinking
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to myself, what would the response have been in the
media if that had ever happened. I think we have
one more clip of this gentleman who fired the shot
that killed Ashley Babbitt that we should play where he says, basically, Buck,
if I'm not mistaken that he saved countless lives based
on his choice, Well, it's disheartening if he was in
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the room or anywhere, and I'm responsible for him. I
was prepared to do the same thing for him and
his family. Would you have his back today if he
were so assigned, I sure would, because it's my job,
Sarah Clay, that's on me. I fired the wrong one there.
But that was in response to the question about Donald
Trump saying that he's a murder Trump said that Lieutenant
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Birds a murderer. But to the one that you brought up,
he did say he saved count according to law, it
does not. I know, based on my training and my policy,
what I did was appropriate. Have you continued to question
your action of that day. I knew that day. I
followed my training, and I spent countless years preparing for
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such a moment. You ultimately hope that moment never occurs,
but you prepare as best you can. I know that
day I saved countless lives. How could he have saved
countless lives. Let's let's unpack this club. That's that's the
dumbest and most ridiculous statement that he made in the
entire interview. To me, there are there are hundreds of riders,
and as we know, a lot of them were walking
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around taking selfies, selfie sticks. They had selfie sticks. But okay,
there were some riders who were violent police and destroyed property.
That is a fact, that's true. Okay, how many of
them actually tried to use lethal force and succeeded in
doing it against anybody? The answer zero. They didn't actually
kill anybody. So by shooting what he's saying is by
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shooting Ashley Babbitt in the neck, there are riders and
other parts of the facility. They're riders, you know, swarming
the capital complex. He saved countless lives. Really, how does
that make any sense? It's a total lie. And what
I would say is just picture. This is what I
want everybody out there listening to us right now to picture.
Pretend that a police officer shoots a protester during Black
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Lives Matter, and let's make it a white police officer
who shoots a young, unarmed black person. What would the
reaction be in the media if that police officer did
a public interview and claimed that he saved countless lives,
there would be mass protests in the streets and the
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outrage meter would be off the charts. Yet this quote
comes out sit down interview and I bet many of
our listeners right now, the first and only time they
will hear that quote will be from us on this show. Buck,
I really think that I'm not seeing it anywhere else, hardly, Clay.
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There were thousands of officers who were wounded, some quite
seriously over the course of BLM protestingly attacked by being
physically assaulted by protesters. That is what happened. Now, if
you're being punched or kicked or hit with a rock
by a protester, that's pretty clear that you're under threat.
And yet, as you and I both know, especially with
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a dynamic you described, if a BLM protester, particularly a
young black protester, shot from fifteen feet away for refusing
a command, which is essentially an anti trespass command from
a law enforcement officer, there there would be more. There'd
be buildings burned down, You'd have CNN standing in front
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of them. By the way, that officer would one hundred
percent be charged with a crime. We wouldn't. We wouldn't.
We don't really need these buildings anyway. It's just problem.
We're just burning buildings down now because protest what I
am arguing for, and this is me putting my lawyer,
hat On buck Is, and I know this frustrates a
lot of people out there. I still believe in the
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idea of justice being blind. That's why, Lady Justice, when
you look at the scales of justice, is wearing a
blindfold because we have to look at all the facts.
And what I was trained in law school is only
three things matter in every case. The facts, the facts.
The facts. The facts are now out entirely about this case.
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And are we applying the same standards of justice to
this Capitol Hill police officer as we would in other circumstances.
I think the answer is we are not, and the
reason why we're not is because of politics. And I
understand that Ashley Babbott was not without flaw right. I'm
not proclaiming that she was one hundred percent innocent in
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this scenario, but I understand why her family has filed
this ten million dollar wrongful death lawsuit and why they're
looking around and saying, wait a minute. If you change
the politics in this scenario, our son daughter protesting for
Black Lives matter, would be a martyr and there would
be significant charges probably brought against this police officer. But
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in this situation, that's not occurring, and I think these
are all legitimate and serious and real questions which people
in our position should be discussing in an honest fashion
with their audience. And I bet Buck we are one
of the only shows out there that will actually do
this anywhere today and we will continue to do so.
We've also got coming up Jack Carr, former Navy seal,
(30:31):
to talk about the list that was allegedly handed over
or now reported it. I think it's been confirmed handed
over of all US personnel and Afghans who are helping.
So stupid. I mean, as an x CIA guy, handing
out list with names like this is just you think
to yourself, how could anyone have such poor operational security.
We'll talk to Jack about that. And also we got
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Barrenson on COVID. We'll take your calls because we got
a lot of people in in clay on Kamala versus Joe.
If you have to pick, don't call in and say
you know, we yeah, of course I want Trump too,
But if you have to pick Kamalo or Joe. But
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We are going to get to some calls here. We
said it's open line Friday, and we meet it David
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in Davis County, Utah. What have you got. We're gonna
have to keep Joe until after this afghan disaster is done.
If we don't, the Taliban and isis K will gain
the ultimate cashe we removed on American president, and I
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think it would make things even worse. It's interesting, it's
an interesting argument, I think. Buck My thoughts on this
would be that we're not removing Biden because of what
happened in Afghanistan. We're removing him overall for the incompetence
at the border, for inflation surging, for the murder rates
hitting all time high. In other words, all of these
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adding together are what demonstrates Biden's incompetence. This is just
the latest example of that. And by the way, even
before the terror attack, Afghanistan was incompetent. This was just
unfortunately that additional disaster. Yeah, thank you, David. Though, interesting
interesting point of view on that. I think he's right.
I mean, that would definitely play into Look, the only
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way Biden goes is if he resigns. Right, there's no mechanism.
There's no universe in which the Democrats. By the way,
I don't care you could find Joe Biden on video
doing anything doesn't matter. Democrats are not going to impeach
their guy, so he would have to step down. Clay,
He's not going to do it. But if he did
do it, there is that component of where the Taliban
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would say, we even brought an American presidency to its knees,
which they're kind of doing anyway. Well. And I think
also the other angle is I'm not sure Democrats what
Kamala in office right because she's so much less popular
than Biden. That was the big theory coming into the
election was that if Biden won, he would resign and
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he would allow Kamala to run as the incumbent in
twenty twenty four. And I think there was a fear
that she would be a stronger incumbent certainly than he
would because let's be honest, I would put the chances
that Joe Biden is able to run in twenty twenty
four at zero right now, Like I just I don't
see zero. Look like I don't see any way based
(34:31):
on his press conferences and his public availability and the
decline that I feel like we're seeing on a week
to week and month to month basis in his mental
and physical faculties. I don't think there's any way. And Buck, Look,
this is the sad thing about using the campaign from
the basement. I think that there's no way Joe Biden
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wins if he has to go on the road in campaign,
because I think his frailty would have been so much
more noticeable. He was unique to this situation of lockdown
year and COVID, a guy everyone knew and they could say, oh,
but it will all be normal and he's good old
Joe and then they hit him in the basement. But
this is a little bit like in Ghostbusters when they say,
(35:11):
you know, choose the form of the destructor and you
have the big and then you got the stay puff
marshmallow man. Well you know, it's like we choose the
form of the destructor in either Joe Biden or Kamala.
Harris here Dale at Northampton says he'd rather have Well, Dale,
you tell us yeah, fire away but yeah, yeah, what ah, Sorry,
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I say, Camilla can't do anything worse than this guy
has done. He's proven to be a total failure. She
might laugh a lot, but I don't think she'd laughed
about American citizens dying or dying all right, all right, Dale,
Dale's going. Dale's going a vote, a vote for Kamala.
Let's see we get Lonnie in Beaumont, Texas. Lonnie, who
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you got? Well? I hate to site this, but Hillary Clinton? Wow?
Hy this this is an interesting question if we made
people vote. I actually think Hillary is wildly more of
a effective leader than either Joe Biden or Kamala. Harris
would be right if you had to pick one of
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those three, like you can toss it, Nancy Pelosi. I mean,
do you agree with me? Right? Like if you had
to pick Wow, this is really this is rough man,
This is like you had to pick somebody to respond to. Uh,
just let's want to cut off my toe or my finger? Class.
I know it's a tough call. We gotta we gotta
get back to a Jack Carr here, former Navy seal.
In just a few minutes. We'll come back to it.
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Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome to the Friday edition of The
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck here
with my MainMan, Clay Big Stories to get to the
aftermath of the horrific suicide bombing attack yesterday, the Biden
administration addressing it. I'm not sure that Joe Biden did
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anything to calm nerves for a lot of people watching
his speech last night. We will dive into that together. Plus,
you have the Supreme Court striking down the obviously flatly unconstitutional,
mean blatantly lawless extension of a eviction moratorium or really
the new eviction moratorium that they created. That's gone now,
(00:44):
so landlords finally have the right to their property again.
And then last night Lieutenant Bird of the Capitol Hill
Police came out to explain why he shot Ashley Babbitt
in the neck despite the fact that she was unarmed,
she was on the other side of what was still
a locked door. He gave his explanation for use of force.
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Lesser Halt gave him a very favorable interview over on
NBC and Clay and I will be discussing that. But
first you have President Joe Biden yesterday addressing the nation,
and it really honestly seemed like you had someone who
in many ways represented in visual form the decline of
(01:28):
US power and prestige on the world stage. Biden seemed tired, befuddled,
week confused. Not what you want from a commander in chief.
After a mass casualty attack like the one that occurred yesterday,
one hundred and seventy is the most recent number we
have seen in terms of casualties. It was even more
(01:52):
than anticipated. One hundred and seventy deaths, thirty two I'm sorry,
one hundred and thirty two others still unidentifiable in terms
of whether we're talking about men, women, children. It's an
absolute grizzly, horrific scene there, and we lost thirteen of
our own thirteen United States military personnel in this mission.
(02:15):
Here is Joe Biden after this happens, first of all,
telling everybody that sorry, after a war, people get left behind.
When you continue to try to get you out, it matters. Look,
I know of no conflict as a student of history,
no conflict where when a war was ending, one side
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was able to guarantee that everyone they wanted to be
extracted from that country. Would get out and think about it, folks,
make it's important. I know the American people get this
in their gut. So we're going to leave people behind?
It seems to me, Clay, it's just a question of who.
This is what Joe Biden is saying after what happened yesterday, Buck,
(03:03):
I hate that this is the situation we're in on
so many different levels. But Joe Biden seems to me,
and I know a lot of you out there as well,
every time I see him speak it's as if he
has aged and deteriorated. Further, I don't know whether he's
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going to be able to make it four years. Arguably,
other than people who have died in office in their
first eight months, Buck, Since Joe Biden is a student
of history, I am as well. I can't think of
a presidency that has been worse in its first eight
months than Joe Biden's. Now, you had some guys, you know,
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get pneumonia when they were giving their inaugural address and
end up dying unhealthy in their first eight months, certainly,
but this is this is really I think, even for
the most died in the wool Democrat believer. You can't
watch Joe Biden speak right now and think to yourself,
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this is a guy who's got over three years left
in the presidency, because but look at the pictures of
guys who are relatively young in the twenty first century
who have gone into office George W. Bush, Barack Obama,
Bill Clinton bridging into the twenty first century. Obviously Trump
only served one term. They age the presidency is such
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a weight on your shoulders that for a seventy eight
year old Joe Biden buck I mean, are you with
me that you look at him and this is not
even analyzing necessarily the politics, but just looking at him physically,
I don't see how he's going to be able to
stand up for over three more years in the most
(04:54):
difficult job in all of the country. And to say
nothing of his decision making or of those things. Just
physically and mentally, I don't think he's got the wherewithal
to be president over three more years. He was never impressive.
This is the part of it that I think gets
left behind. It's not as though Joe Biden is the
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aging political genius or rock star or whatever it may be.
He was just a bin around a long time, played
the game the way he had to to keep his
Senate seat in Delaware. Guy, and now he's been thrust
into this role. I mean, I think it was he
was in some ways perfect maybe to be the vice
president because the Obama administration didn't want anybody who was
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going to overshadow or that's a real challenge. They weren't
going to let Hillary Clinton be the vice president. And
so that's though, where what happens now is we see
that Joe Biden is in this role. He is the president,
and he's supposed to be projecting not only calm and
command to the American people, but, let's be honest, an
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air of menace to our enemies. I mean, we're the
enemies of the United States are supposed to think this
is a guy we don't want to cross. And here's
where he made his pitch that you know, we're essentially
gonna come after you and we're not going to allow
this to go without reprisal. To those who carried out
this attack as well as anyone who wishes America harm,
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know this, we will not forgive. We will not forget.
We will hunt you down and make you pay. I'll
defend our interests in our people with every measure at
my command. Clay, two things on this. The first of all,
to our conversation about how this president is doing and
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appears in the role. And I agree with you, and
I've I've always said this, I don't like you know,
I try to avoid you. People will call him you
know the you know the dementia patient presidents. You know,
that's really serious stuff. But he's the commander in chief.
He's got to be in the role. So he is
deteriorating the way we could see it. And for any
normal I mean, for any normal situation, you just you'd
(07:05):
feel sorry, you'd want people to take care of this guy. Yes, Instead,
he's been thrust upon us as the commander in chief.
So I don't think that it comes across in the
way it's opposed to as this is a guy who
our enemies feel like is going to make that decision
at you know, the three am phone call in a
way that we'll make our enemies feel like they're on
notice and that there will be consequences. But beyond that, Clay,
(07:28):
going after what we're going to track down ices K
or whatever element of jihadism did this that does nothing
for the next four days. Right, First of all, we're
not going to track him down in the next four days.
We don't have the assets through it. We don't have
the attention or the time right now. We got to
get Americans out. But I mean, bringing this up, it
just felt so hollow. As soon as he said it.
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I watched this buck and it felt like somebody was
trying to play a role and they didn't have the
acting chops to pull it off. And I know a
little bit about not having the acting chops to pull
it off because I'm the worst actor of all time.
We use skits for our television show on FS one,
and everybody else on the show makes fun of me
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because I can't memorize lines. I can say exactly what
I think unscripted, but as soon as you start having
me memorize lines, I fall apart. And it felt like
Joe Biden was trying to play a role in the
way that he was talking there. The problem is, I
don't think anyone out there actually fears Joe Biden in
any way. And look, there's an obsession. There's an obsession
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because of Twitter with playing nice, right, with being likable
and all these things, and sometimes you just gotta be.
And I gotta be careful what word I use here,
because I don't want to get us FCC violated. But
sometimes you gotta be. And I'm just gonna use it
as a euphemism. Sometimes you have to just be a
total jerk, right, you can't always be mister nice guy.
(08:58):
And when Joe Biden tries to pivot and show that
he has a you know, that he that he's willing
to throw a punch, it doesn't register, right, It just
doesn't register. Just like some of you out there know
you had a parent at some point who you knew
was never going to spank you, like when you were
a kid growing up, So the threat of a spanking,
(09:18):
you're like, yeah, you're not gonna do that. Like that's
what the government other governments around the world, I think,
see what Joe Biden, even the most loving family dog
you want to have capable of growling and showing teeth.
That's a that's a good analogy. And you know that's
I think that's true for all of us. It's certainly
true for the commander in chief here. And you know,
(09:41):
I just keep I use that title even more than
President right now, because that's really the role that he's
thrust into, right I mean, yes, he's both, but right now,
it's this is the guy who's making the top level
decisions for the United States military. This is who all
the generals go to. Sir, What do we do? Sir?
How do we? Yes? How do we go forward? And
I got to tell you the form commander in chief
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before him who every special operations guy I talked to you,
and I know a lot of them, every person I
know who is a door kicker, a war fighter. They
just felt like he was a guy who got it
and would give them the orders that need to be
given to protect the American people. Here's former President Trump
on what he saw yesterday. Our country is really in trouble,
(10:23):
and it's only going to get worse. What you're watching
now is only going to get worse. It can only
go one way. We had something where they didn't get
near us. They were petrified of us. I let them
know that if they do anything, we hit them right
where it hurts, which is their homes. And they know it,
and they were waiting for us. They would have been
very happy to let us go and take every American
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and anybody else, we want to take our equipment, and
for some reason he watched the plan and took the
military at first. Now it's a very sad day for
our country and a great embarrassment. Beyond embarrassment, it's a
very dangerous day for our country. I mean, Clay, we
lost We lost more American serviceman yesterday than we've lost
in Afghani in one day than we've lost in Afghanistan
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in years, ten years, ten years, Buck, is the number
that I saw out there ten years. This was the
deadliest day we've had in Afghanistan in ten years. And
I think it's all at the feet of Joe Biden.
And unfortunately, Buck, you and I for the past two
weeks had been saying this is where we were trending.
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And I just feel awful for all those people out
there on the ground in Afghanistan trying to protect our
country's interest in all of their families back here, that
they have a commander in chief, because Buck, you and
I don't want to have an impotent commander in chief,
even if you are the most died in the Wold
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Republican and there's a Democrat president or the most died
in the wold Democrat and there's a Republican president. You
don't want a week American president. We need somebody who
can uplift our interest and Joe Biden is not that
I want. I honestly wanted Joe Biden to wind down
this war with the just you know, and continue on
with the Trump administration trajectory here in a way that
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we would have had almost no real criticism of how
it was conducted because that would have met Americans would
have stayed alive. That would have meant our people got
back home. That's what we were actually rooting for. It's
not what we are getting. And we owe it to
everybody in this country to be honest about that. This
is a debacle. It's not a partisan talking point. It
is we'll come back into a clay. I also want
(12:32):
to post to you if Biden did resign, would that
even make you feel better? Can we can we come
back to that question. He's not obviously going to resign,
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Sexton Show. We're rolling through the Friday edition of the program.
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Open line Friday's, by the way, we'll take some of
your calls during the course of the program. Alex Barrenson,
by the way, is going to join us. We're trying
to basically get him slotted in on Fridays as all
this chaos surrounding COVID continues. We've obviously been focused a
lot on Afghanistan this week, but we're gonna talk with
Alex Barrenson Jack Carr for the latest on the ground
(14:40):
in Afghanistan to start off the second hour of the program.
But buck Sexton ask a good question as we went
to break, would you even feel better if Joe Biden
stepped down knowing that Kamala Harris is waiting in the wings.
And I'll answer that question I'm also curious what fuck
thinks about it. But first, this, to me, it was
(15:01):
not a great press conference and speech from Joe Biden
at all yesterday afternoon, But this, to me was the
personification of why Joe Biden is in over his head.
Listen to this as he prepared to take questions from
the media. This is Joe Biden yesterday, Ladies and gentlemen.
(15:22):
Gave me a list here. The first person I was
instructed to call on was Kelly O'donald nbclay. What the
heck is that? It's so unbelievably embarrassing that the president
of the United States cannot actually pick his own people
(15:43):
to call on. And even if you have a list,
which we know he does, because there's been pictures sometimes
that go out virally of a list of people that
Joe Biden is going to call in an order. I
just wonder about all of this in terms of his
mental faculties. Look, you can criticize Donald Trump, and god
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knows he got criticized for everything, but he would stand
and take questions sometimes for hours from the media, calling
on people both favorable and unfavorable to him, and and
and all of his press people came out and said
we never gave him a list and said, hey, you're
gonna call on this person first. It was like Gulliver
(16:24):
with the Lilliputians trying to, you know, hold him down
an attack him. And Trump was was they would there
be a frenzy during these gaggles and sprays and these
things they do, and Trump would just look. It was
one of the most one of the more magnificent things
of his presidency. Was just one after another. You know you,
you know, be quiet, you not true you. That's where
he would take it. Joe Biden, it's this is the
(16:46):
this is basement Biden, who is now having to walk
around and act like he actually knows what the heck
is going on and what's happening here Buck is. They
know what the questions are going to be, so they
are prepping him for, Hey, you're gonna get asked by
this person what that question is. And I wonder on
(17:06):
some level, I don't know where the teleprompter is or
whether the media can see it as he is speaking,
but I feel like a lot of these questions they
have his answer already typed out for him, and he
is reading most of it off of the prompter too,
whether it's Biden or any other politician. If you don't
get them off script, if they're just gonna try to
(17:26):
fillibuster by reading talking points, you're never going to find
out anything. Just remember that should be a general principle here.
You'll never learn anything. And Clay that I just want
to know you feel better if Kamala Harris is come
out to the the chief next week? Theoretically you do? You know,
I've spent a lot of time. Yeah, it's it's such
a great question because I spent a lot of time,
Like I feel like Kamala Harris is more mentally there,
(17:49):
but I think she's going to make worst decisions even
than Joe. Let's throw it to the audience. Kamala or Joe.
You have to pick. You have no choice. I'm curious
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some big stories yet Today, of course, continuing coverage and
analysis of the massive suicide bombing attack at Cobble Airport yesterday.
We'll be joined by a former Navy sealed Jack Carr,
(19:16):
friend of mine, great guy, bestselling author. In the second
out of the program, third out of the program of
Alex Barnson on everything going on right now, booster shots
getting moved up sooner, it seems Biden just spoke about this.
Get ready for those booster shots, folks, get ready for
the mandates, and schools get ready for corporate mandates. They're
gonna start with the hospital systems and then they're gonna
go all across the country. I don't know, maybe maybe
(19:37):
we should try to stop it or else just wait,
you're gonna you're gonna be faced with lose your job,
or get the shot and get the shot again, and
get the shot again. But I don't know. I'd like
to I'd like to have us hold the line somewhere
on this. That's That's what I'm hoping to do, hoping
to find a way we can start that somewhere. But
interview last night on NBC News with Lieutenant Michael Bird,
(20:04):
who it's been rumored, i think on the internet for
a while that he was in fact the individual involved here.
But he is the Capitol Hill police officer who shot
Ashley Babbitt the neck. Now, Clay and I, you know,
I've had some background in law enforcement and baseline tactical training.
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Clay obviously as a lawyer. We wanted to go through
some of this, and really, first of all, it was
they couldn't have tried to make it a more favorable
platform for Officer Bird's narrative. You'll hear that yourself. We
want to take this though, piece by piece and address
how I mean. For me, this is the whole thing
is outrageous because the politics involved are quite clear in
(20:44):
terms of how this has been handled. But let's start
with Michael Bird saying that he showed tremendous courage in
the shooting. Of course I do. That is a very
vital point, and it's something that it's frightening. I believe
I showed the utmost carriage on January sixth, and it's
(21:08):
time for me to do that now, the utmost courage, Clay.
Have you heard any of the officers involved in fatal
shootings that got a lot of national attention, and including
times when an assailant was reaching for a gun or
going for a knife. Have you heard any of them
ever say well, I showed tremendous courage and shooting that person. No,
(21:30):
and if they did, we already have protests, but there
would be mass rioting in the streets. I want to
hear all these quotes, and I want our audience to
hear them all because I think with everything going on
with Afghanistan, reasonably this story has kind of slid under
the radar. But I want to keep playing these quotes,
(21:52):
and I just want you, as you listen to these quotes,
just think what the reaction would be from blackwallis matter.
If a white police officer who shot an unarmed protester
had said all of these things, what the reaction would
be compared to the comparative crickets in response to this.
(22:16):
Let's just keep playing these clips because again, I think
a large part of our audience has not heard all
of these quotes, and certainly, as you said, Buck, this
gentleman had not even been named prior to this interview
that he just decided to do. Here he is discussing
that he believed Ashley Babbitt was posing an imminent threat. Remember,
(22:40):
this is an unarmed woman still on the other side
of the door, trying to break in and open a door.
He has the gun drawn for quite a plenty of time.
He can see exactly what's going on. It's on video.
We have video of this encounter. Here is what he says,
I'd been yelling and screaming as loud as I was,
please stop, get back, get back, stop. We had our
(23:04):
weapons throwing. We see your arm out there for a
considerable amount of time. Were you wavering? I was taking
a tactical stance. You're ultimately hoping that your commands will
be complied with, and unfortunately they were not. What did
you think this individual was doing? Then? She was posing
a threat to United States House of Representatives. All right,
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lawyer Clay, she's posing a threat. How was she posing
more of a threat than we can see in the video?
There are people all pressed against the door. So under
this use of force justification, that's very specific, it seems
to this circumstance. And by the way, I've been all morning,
I've been checking in with law Enforce and friends of
mine who are back the Blue guys and another one.
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They say, you hit a Capitol Hill police officer in
the head with a rock or something. You know, you
got to serve time. They back law Enforce and they
say this is something else, Clay. If that's the use
of force justification, could this officer have unloaded his whole
clip and shot eight people up against that door? They
were all posted theory. Yes, in theory, that's the point, Buck, right,
And again, I don't like when we put ourselves in
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a position where we have to micro analyze every single
police officer in the moment. But I do think that
we need to apply consistent standards that are that are
equal to all police officers. And we've said this for
a long time. Look, I am a steadfast believer that
we need more police officers. Defund the police, the dumbest
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argument that's made in the twenty first century in American
political life. But every police officers not perfect. And certainly
I can't even remember Buck, hardly ever a police officer
come out and basically call himself a hero for shooting
an unarmed woman or man for that matter. I just
I can't remember it ever happening before. And I'm thinking
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to myself, what would the response have been in the
media if that had ever happened. I think we have
one more clip of this gentleman who fired the shot
that killed Ashley Babbitt that we should play where he says, basically, Buck,
if I'm not mistaken that he saved countless lives based
on his choice, Well, it's disheartening if he was in
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the room or anywhere, and I'm responsible for him. I
was prepared to do the same thing for him and
his family. Would you have his back today if he
were so assigned, I sure would, because it's my job,
Sarah Clay, that's on me. I fired the wrong one there.
But that was in response to the question about Donald
Trump saying that he's a murder Trump said that Lieutenant
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Birds a murderer. But to the one that you brought up,
he did say he saved count according to law, it
does not. I know, based on my training and my policy,
what I did was appropriate. Have you continued to question
your action of that day. I knew that day. I
followed my training, and I spent countless years preparing for
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such a moment. You ultimately hope that moment never occurs,
but you prepare as best you can. I know that
day I saved countless lives. How could he have saved
countless lives. Let's let's unpack this club. That's that's the
dumbest and most ridiculous statement that he made in the
entire interview. To me, there are there are hundreds of riders,
and as we know, a lot of them were walking
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around taking selfies, selfie sticks. They had selfie sticks. But okay,
there were some riders who were violent police and destroyed property.
That is a fact, that's true. Okay, how many of
them actually tried to use lethal force and succeeded in
doing it against anybody? The answer zero. They didn't actually
kill anybody. So by shooting what he's saying is by
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shooting Ashley Babbitt in the neck, there are riders and
other parts of the facility. They're riders, you know, swarming
the capital complex. He saved countless lives. Really, how does
that make any sense? It's a total lie. And what
I would say is just picture. This is what I
want everybody out there listening to us right now to picture.
Pretend that a police officer shoots a protester during Black
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Lives Matter, and let's make it a white police officer
who shoots a young, unarmed black person. What would the
reaction be in the media if that police officer did
a public interview and claimed that he saved countless lives,
there would be mass protests in the streets and the
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outrage meter would be off the charts. Yet this quote
comes out sit down interview and I bet many of
our listeners right now, the first and only time they
will hear that quote will be from us on this show. Buck,
I really think that I'm not seeing it anywhere else, hardly, Clay.
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There were thousands of officers who were wounded, some quite
seriously over the course of BLM protestingly attacked by being
physically assaulted by protesters. That is what happened. Now, if
you're being punched or kicked or hit with a rock
by a protester, that's pretty clear that you're under threat.
And yet, as you and I both know, especially with
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a dynamic you described, if a BLM protester, particularly a
young black protester, shot from fifteen feet away for refusing
a command, which is essentially an anti trespass command from
a law enforcement officer, there there would be more. There'd
be buildings burned down, You'd have CNN standing in front
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of them. By the way, that officer would one hundred
percent be charged with a crime. We wouldn't. We wouldn't.
We don't really need these buildings anyway. It's just problem.
We're just burning buildings down now because protest what I
am arguing for, and this is me putting my lawyer,
hat On buck Is, and I know this frustrates a
lot of people out there. I still believe in the
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idea of justice being blind. That's why, Lady Justice, when
you look at the scales of justice, is wearing a
blindfold because we have to look at all the facts.
And what I was trained in law school is only
three things matter in every case. The facts, the facts.
The facts. The facts are now out entirely about this case.
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And are we applying the same standards of justice to
this Capitol Hill police officer as we would in other circumstances.
I think the answer is we are not, and the
reason why we're not is because of politics. And I
understand that Ashley Babbott was not without flaw right. I'm
not proclaiming that she was one hundred percent innocent in
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this scenario, but I understand why her family has filed
this ten million dollar wrongful death lawsuit and why they're
looking around and saying, wait a minute. If you change
the politics in this scenario, our son daughter protesting for
Black Lives matter, would be a martyr and there would
be significant charges probably brought against this police officer. But
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in this situation, that's not occurring, and I think these
are all legitimate and serious and real questions which people
in our position should be discussing in an honest fashion
with their audience. And I bet Buck we are one
of the only shows out there that will actually do
this anywhere today and we will continue to do so.
We've also got coming up Jack Carr, former Navy seal,
(30:31):
to talk about the list that was allegedly handed over
or now reported it. I think it's been confirmed handed
over of all US personnel and Afghans who are helping.
So stupid. I mean, as an x CIA guy, handing
out list with names like this is just you think
to yourself, how could anyone have such poor operational security.
We'll talk to Jack about that. And also we got
(30:53):
Barrenson on COVID. We'll take your calls because we got
a lot of people in in clay on Kamala versus Joe.
If you have to pick, don't call in and say
you know, we yeah, of course I want Trump too,
But if you have to pick Kamalo or Joe. But
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We are going to get to some calls here. We
said it's open line Friday, and we meet it David
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in Davis County, Utah. What have you got. We're gonna
have to keep Joe until after this afghan disaster is done.
If we don't, the Taliban and isis K will gain
the ultimate cashe we removed on American president, and I
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think it would make things even worse. It's interesting, it's
an interesting argument, I think. Buck My thoughts on this
would be that we're not removing Biden because of what
happened in Afghanistan. We're removing him overall for the incompetence
at the border, for inflation surging, for the murder rates
hitting all time high. In other words, all of these
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adding together are what demonstrates Biden's incompetence. This is just
the latest example of that. And by the way, even
before the terror attack, Afghanistan was incompetent. This was just
unfortunately that additional disaster. Yeah, thank you, David. Though, interesting
interesting point of view on that. I think he's right.
I mean, that would definitely play into Look, the only
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way Biden goes is if he resigns. Right, there's no mechanism.
There's no universe in which the Democrats. By the way,
I don't care you could find Joe Biden on video
doing anything doesn't matter. Democrats are not going to impeach
their guy, so he would have to step down. Clay,
He's not going to do it. But if he did
do it, there is that component of where the Taliban
(33:45):
would say, we even brought an American presidency to its knees,
which they're kind of doing anyway. Well. And I think
also the other angle is I'm not sure Democrats what
Kamala in office right because she's so much less popular
than Biden. That was the big theory coming into the
election was that if Biden won, he would resign and
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he would allow Kamala to run as the incumbent in
twenty twenty four. And I think there was a fear
that she would be a stronger incumbent certainly than he
would because let's be honest, I would put the chances
that Joe Biden is able to run in twenty twenty
four at zero right now, Like I just I don't
see zero. Look like I don't see any way based
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on his press conferences and his public availability and the
decline that I feel like we're seeing on a week
to week and month to month basis in his mental
and physical faculties. I don't think there's any way. And Buck, Look,
this is the sad thing about using the campaign from
the basement. I think that there's no way Joe Biden
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wins if he has to go on the road in campaign,
because I think his frailty would have been so much
more noticeable. He was unique to this situation of lockdown
year and COVID, a guy everyone knew and they could say, oh,
but it will all be normal and he's good old
Joe and then they hit him in the basement. But
this is a little bit like in Ghostbusters when they say,
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you know, choose the form of the destructor and you
have the big and then you got the stay puff
marshmallow man. Well you know, it's like we choose the
form of the destructor in either Joe Biden or Kamala.
Harris here Dale at Northampton says he'd rather have Well, Dale,
you tell us yeah, fire away but yeah, yeah, what ah, Sorry,
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I say, Camilla can't do anything worse than this guy
has done. He's proven to be a total failure. She
might laugh a lot, but I don't think she'd laughed
about American citizens dying or dying all right, all right, Dale,
Dale's going. Dale's going a vote, a vote for Kamala.
Let's see we get Lonnie in Beaumont, Texas. Lonnie, who
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you got? Well? I hate to site this, but Hillary Clinton? Wow?
Hy this this is an interesting question if we made
people vote. I actually think Hillary is wildly more of
a effective leader than either Joe Biden or Kamala. Harris
would be right if you had to pick one of
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those three, like you can toss it, Nancy Pelosi. I mean,
do you agree with me? Right? Like if you had
to pick Wow, this is really this is rough man,
This is like you had to pick somebody to respond to. Uh,
just let's want to cut off my toe or my finger? Class.
I know it's a tough call. We gotta we gotta
get back to a Jack Carr here, former Navy seal.
In just a few minutes. We'll come back to it.
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