January 13, 2022 • 37 mins
Monica Crowley joins Clay and Buck to discuss inflation nation and Hillary's 2024 revenge fantasy. Sinema on filibuster; Cotton reads old Schumer speech against killing filibuster on Senate floor. Biden freefall: only 33% approval in Quinnipiac poll. Manhattan crime wave.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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as the one that we're just about to begin right
now with Monica Crowley. She's a former assistant Treasury secretary
under Donald Trump. Just to call him up about the
idea of a Hillary Clinton comeback. We'll get into that
and more, but I want to start Monica first. Thanks
for coming on. Second, inflation yesterday hit seven percent, the
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highest rate it's been since nineteen eighty two. How do
we get back to the Fed's targeted goal of around
two percent inflation and what's the time frame that that
might require. Well, Hi, guys, thank you so much for
having me back. I could tells a pleasure and it
is an excellent question. You know, there were some of
us last year who were screaming that inflation was going
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to become a huge problem. I remember being on Fox Business.
I was all over radio. I was not the only one,
but I was certainly saying that inflation looks like it
is going to be far more persistent than what we
were being told by the powers that be, including President Biden,
Vice President Harris, Treasury Secretary Jenny Yellen, and the said
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Chair Jerome Powell. They were all telling us last year, listen,
there is some inflation, but it's going to be transitory.
It's all associated with opening the economy back up and
all of this pence up demand. But once that dust
settles come the fall last year, they expected inflation to subside.
What we have seen the exact opposite. And what we
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all knew that they either didn't know or ignored is
the fact that there was so much money that has
been pumped down into the system over the last two
years that of course there's this excess cash there's rolling
around the system, that of course you are going to
have inflationary pressures. They thought, well, we can continue to
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keep the interest rates at record lows, and with all
this fiscal policy, you know, the booming demand will come
back and help mop up all of this cash. Well,
that didn't happen. And you know, obviously those of us
in the Trump administration. During the pandemic, the President made
the very difficult decision to shut down the economy for
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a period of time, and so there was a realization
that the government needed to step into the reach. And
therefore we had all of this emergency level spending because
we were in an actual emergency. Well, Biden and the
Democrats come in a January of last year and they
continue the emergency level spending without the emergency. So they
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took a potentially inflationary situation and actually made it come
to path and then exacerbated it by all of this
excess spending. So what we have to do now, guys,
is stop the spending. Thank god for Joe Mansion, stop
and go back better. But we've got to make sure
that both on the fiscal and monetary sides, there is
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no more stimulus. No more fiscal stimulus coming out of
the White House and Congress, no more monetary stimulus coming
out of the said speaking to Monica Crowley, former Assistant
Treasury Secretary under Donald Trump. She's also got a piece
today up the New York Post. Hillary twenty twenty four
with Biden and Harris incredibly weak, Clinton c's a comeback. So, Monica,
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you and I have known each other for a while.
You know the folks that can often formulate a consensus
like this, even a short term one in the media,
that this is as a possibility. You really think this
is a this is one that we could see in
the long term come to fruition. They're maybe the great
Hillary comeback of twenty twenty four. I think for some
people they're gonna have nightmares if they think this is possible,
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but it will be entertaining. Well, Hillary Clinton is a
recurring nightmare, but it's often fun to talk about. This
is Clinton, isn't it. Look I have been talking about
this woman for twenty years. She's been on the national
stage for thirty years, and I have just seen some
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moves on her part that suggests to me that as
she looks around at the catastrophic collapse of Biden and
Harris and then the catastrophic collapse of their policy agenda,
disasters in every direction, I think her revenge fantasy is
that the Democrats see her as the only vibal option
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going into twenty four, and that they will come and
beg her to save the day. Now, it could transpire
in a couple of different ways. I mean, she could
certainly run. I do think there's going to be an
open Mary because Biden obviously is not running again. He's
already eating stream peace, Okay, so he's not going to
make it to twenty twenty four. So she could either
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run in an open primary, or if the Democrats decide
that Kamala Harris is far too much of a liability
to continue, they basically have one year while this Congress
is still in place, because Congress has to approve any
vice presidential replacement to move her out of the way,
make her an offer she can't refusese get her out
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of there and then replace her. Now they're going to
have the identity politics problem because Kamala is a black woman,
and they don't want to alienate black voters, specifically black women.
So Hillary would have a challenge there to try to
stave off as Stacy Abrahams or a Keisha Bottoms or
someone else like that. But Hillary is a fighter, and
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I'm telling you she has refused to go quietly into
that dark political night. Ambition burns as strong as ever,
and I'm telling you she's planning to put Bigfoot all
comers to try to get that top job. This is
fascinating to think about. You're convinced that Biden is not
going to run again. Let's presume that that's true. When
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would he make that announcement that he would not seek reelection?
Because there's a lot of focus, I think in the
chattering class, including us, about when Trump might announce that
he's going to run again in twenty twenty four. When
do you think Biden would announce? Hey, you know, he's
kind of a lame duck already. Presuming that the Democrats
lose the House in twenty twenty two and may well
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lose the Senate as well, what's the time frame for
Biden to say basically, hey, I'm done. Well, you know,
a lot of Democrats looking at this scenario are saying
he should not announce anytime, certainly not before the midterms,
but even in his third year of his presidency. He
should not because he will be perceived as a lame
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duck and get nothing. Well, I have used for those Democrats.
He's already a lame duck. I mean, if Jill Mansion
and Christian cinemall hold the line on build back better
and the big domestic spending agenda and as voting nonsense.
If they hold the line, his domestic agenda is done
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from here on out, thank god, and certainly after the
midterms when Republicans take control, as we believe that they will.
So I don't think that is applicable. But I also
don't think he's going to make any kind of announcement
before his third year in the presidency. He's got to
if he's not gonna run, he's got to do it
for the party. He's got to step aside so candidates
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can come forward, fundraising can begin, and all of those
things can happen. But he's not going to want to
do it before that third year. Say the Democrats are
in a real, real bind, Monica. Do you think that
they're going to have to just by virtue of the
fact that they're going into a mid term that everyone
now thinks is going to be a shellacking. Biden numbers
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are in the basement and feels like they might go
to the sub basement pretty soon. Do you think they're
going to have to back off some of the crazier
COVID restrictions and madness sooner than later or is this
what the base wants of the Democrat Party? Therefore they're
going to keep us going deep into summer, because I
know the caseload is going to start to a lesson.
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We know this a cyclical nature of this virus. But
if they put the country through two or three months
of suppressed economic activity and the psychological damage of more
crazy restrictions, that's going to be something I think is
remembered this fall and is going to be reflected in
the numbers. So they how do you think they play it?
It's very difficult for them to square this circle. They're
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really on the horns of a dilemma because on the
one hand, they love the restrictions because that's more power
and control for them, and going into twenty two with
mail in voting and all of the things we saw
it come to pass last year as a result of
the pandemic. They want to keep in place so that
they can conduct their fraud and their staff and their
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shenanigans to try to mitigate some of the losses that
are coming their way in the fall. But on the
other hand, all of these restrictions are a huge drag
on the party. You're already seeing not just buying and
the Harris's numbers, but the Democrats across the board are
really suffering in the polls because number one, you've got
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this weakening economy, You've got catastrophes in every direction. But
I do think that one of the big drivers of
that are these COVID restrictions. The American people have had enough.
They've had enough of having to show their papers to
go to a restaurant. They've had enough of their kids
being pulled back and forth like yo yos with school closures.
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They've had enough of being told masks work until they
don't work. They've had enough, and they're ready now to
live their lives with COVID and negotiates life in this
new reality. And if the Democrats don't change their tune
on these restrictions and start lifting some of these things,
I think that the losses they're going to see in
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November are going to be even worse. That's why you're
seeing changing messaging from the White House, changing messaging from FAUCI,
changing messaging from the CDC. It's not because the science
has changed has changed, it's because the politics has changed.
We're talking to Monica Crowley, former assistant Treasury Secretary under
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Donald Trump. You mentioned the idea of Hillary Clinton even
potentially getting slid in as the vice president. That would
require Kamala Harris giving up the office. Do you think
there's any chance that she would accept a Supreme Court
appointment in the event that Stephen Bryer decided to step down,
as many in the Democratic Party are trying to pressure
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him to do this summer. Well, you know, this is
one of the reasons why I wanted to write the
column that appears in Today's New York Post, and you
can see it all across my social media Twitter, get
her Instagram, I posted it everywhere. They are going to
have to make Vice President Harris an offer she can't
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refuse because she is not also not going to go
quietly into that political night. So unless they have some
compromising material or something on her to get her out,
she is not going to go quietly. If she stays
and runs, she's going to think like a stone like
she did in the twenty twenty cycle. They could offer
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her if you suggest something different that is perceived as
a lateral move, and the Supreme Court would be considered
a lateral move from the Vice presidency, So they could
convince her to do that, but again, they're going to
have to do this in the next twelve months, actually
the next eleven months, while they still have control of
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the call. Grish should try to get a replacement approved
because once Republicans gain control, it's game over. I mean,
if they presenting Hillary Clinton to her Republican House, forget it.
It's got gonna happen. So all of these dominoes are
gonna have to fall pretty soon if this scenario is
going to take place, and if it doesn't, they're gonna
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be stuck with Kamala running for president and that is
going to be a death knell for them. Monica Crowley,
everybody check out New York Post dot Com today, Hillary
twenty twenty four. She's got a piece up there. Follow
Monica on Twitter. Monica Crowley, my friend. Good to have you.
Thanks for being here with us. Always a pleasure. Thanks guys.
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There's no need for me to restate my longstanding support
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no need for me to restate its role protecting our
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I continue to hold. Through me a head cinema there
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holding the line and faking me out there for second thought,
she was done with that SoundBite, just essentially saying that
she is consistent and that there is a principle here,
and the Democrats hate her for that right now. Of course,
because there's not supposed to be any principles when you're
talking about the Democrat Party. Commies don't recognize principle. They
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recognize power. So what is this doesn't matter that Chuck
Schumer and others have given speeches in vociferous defense of
the filibuster. In fact, here is Senator Tom Cotton delivering
his favorite pro filibuster in the Senate speech formally given
by Chuck Schumer. The audiologues in the Senate want to
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turn what the founding fathers called the cooling saucer of
democracy into a rubber stamp of dictatorship. They will make
this country into a banana republic where if you don't
get your way, you change the rules. Are we going
to let them? It will be a doomsday for democracy
if we do. As are powerful words, but they're not mine.
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Every word. If my speech today was originally spoken by
our esteemed colleague, the senior Senator from New York, Chuck Schumer,
words that are as true today as they were when
he spoke them. Even if Senator Schumer is singing a
different tune today, is there even a debate here, Clay, really,
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I mean, come on, I know. Look, first of all,
I think we need to give credit to Kursten Cinema
and to Joe Mansion, because both of those senators have
done what they think is right for principle as opposed
to party. And so what's interesting here to me Buck
about this timing is Joe Biden is eating lunch with
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the Senate Democrats right now. So Kirsten Cinema specifically chose
to go give this speech right before Biden came to
Capitol Hill. Joe Mansion, by the way, has praised it.
There's been talk at Mark Kelly in Arizona that Shaheen
in New Hampshire and Bacchus in Montana are also Democrats
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who are opposed to this bill as well, but have
not felt the need to speak out because if there's
not fifty votes then they don't necessarily have to take
a strong stand like Cinema has. But this to me
feels a little bit like sticking a middle finger in
the direction of Joe Biden for Cinema to decide to
make this speech right before he arrives on Capitol Hill
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for lunch. I guess you can argue it either way,
if she watches him make his pitch to everybody and
then goes and gives the speech after lunch, isn't more
of an insult. I think what's clear here is Joe
Biden wildly miscalculated in his Tuesday speech when he tried
to equate everyone who didn't support changing filibuster rules here
to being Jefferson Davis or George Wallace. And there are
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a lot of people, certainly Republicans, but even many Democrats,
who felt like his language was so charged that it
actually made any success less likely. Instead, more like I've
always said, Joe Biden's not some super nice guy. People
who actually know his career know that that's all a fraud.
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a football fan, lots super wild Card weekend, Saturday Sunday games.
Want to clean up something we're talking about who might
be opposed to the filibuster. Not only do we know
because we just said Kirsten Cinema, who just spoke from Arizona,
we know Joe Manchin as opposed to changing the filibuster rules. Also,
there have been reports that Shaheen out of New Hampshire,
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and that Mark Kelly the other senator from Arizona, both
Democrats who are unclear whether or not they support the
filibuster rules being changed. And I said Bacchus Tester is
the senator that I meant from Montana. Bacchus has not
been a senator there for about seven or eight years now,
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but he was a longtime Democratic senator from Montana. So
Tester is is the Democratic senator that maybe wobbly. Bigger
picture here, it's that everyone is going to focus on
Cinema and Mansion and say, oh, they are they are
the impediments to passing this bill and changing the rules
of the filibuster. That's not actually true. There are likely
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several other Democrats that are also still opposed. And one reason,
by the way, Buck, there are lots of reasons why
changing the filibuster rules is radical, but in particular it's
radical because Joe Biden is in the middle of an
absolute collapse in his overall political support. Poll came out
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yesterday afternoon while we were on air, Quinnipiac Pole and here,
by the way, are the last seven approval ratings in
this Quinnipiac poll. Forty nine percent, forty six percent, forty
two percent, thirty eight percent, thirty seven percent, thirty six percent,
and then yesterday afternoon thirty three percent approval for Joe Biden,
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fifty three percent disapproval. And I want to hit you
with a couple at numbers here Buck that stood out
to me. Joe Biden right now for independent voters has
an approval rating of twenty five percent. For Black voters
even it's down to fifty seven percent White voters thirty
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two percent approval rating. Hispanic Hispanic voters have a twenty
eight percent approval rating right now for Joe Biden. That
is lower than white voter approval ratings. Jos are numbers
that are unbelievable. Joe Biden is about as popular as
a root canal everybody. That's where we are here. And
this is astonishing but not surprising either when you look
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at what the promise was of this administration. You know,
we talk about the failures in specifics of the border, economy, inflation, crime,
all these things, and when we say Joe Biden, it's
really the regime. It's Democrats setting the narrative and the
political agenda across the nation in different ways, and certainly
in the era of COVID, they've been more engaged in
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overreach and I think constitutional violation than at anytime we've seen,
really in my lifetime. I can't think of anything that
really is quite a lot. There were some moments in
the War on Terror when things maybe got heavy handed
with the government here at home, but nothing on the
scale that we've seen with COVID. But Clay, there's also
the broken fundamental promise of why did people go to
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vote for Joe Biden? And this is something Democrats do
all the time. Republicans. The problem Republicans have is they
get elected and these are generalizations, but we're talking politics,
we're gonna have to generalize. They get elected promising something
and then they don't deliver what they promise to the base.
That's the problem, the fundamental problem I think of Republicans.
Often Democrats get elected to pretending to be something other
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than that which they are. Though right, they'll like Joe
Biden in this case is saying he's a unifier. As
a uniter, you know, it's not that he is a
guy who wants to push through a left wing agenda
and be a spokesperson effectively for the more radical parts
of the Democrat apparatus. He was a guy that was
going to be America's Grandpa, and we're all scared. We've
all got this COVID thing flying around, right, Joe Biden
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is a guy you can trust. This whole Joe Biden
is nasty. He says horrible things about his political opponents.
He says reckless things in front of the American people,
as he just did in that speech a couple of
days ago. His whole pandemic of the unvaccinated line is disgraceful,
and he keeps repeating it. He is the opposite of
what he pretended to be to be elected in a
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once in a century pandemic situation, and I think people
are recognizing that. I don't know how he climbs out
of it. We had this discussion Buck, You'll remember in
the summer when we had the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, and
the overall consensus at that point in time was that
foreign policy doesn't typically American approval ratings. But I do
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think it was an important tipping point for Joe Biden
because Afghanistan, for many people, reflected the overall incompetence of
the Biden administration, whether it was at the border, whether
it was the murder rate, whether it's now with COVID.
The most interesting thing I think in this Quinnipiac poll
buck is for the first time Joe Biden is now
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substantially underwater when it comes to his response on COVID.
That's been the only thing that has been his saving
grace so far was that there were enough people in
America who trusted him on COVID. Now he's lost there too.
There's not one single thing that Joe Biden is doing
right now of a significant magnitude that is positively reviewed,
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whether it's immigration, the border, COVID, his domestic agenda, all
of it has been soundly rejected. And so I don't know.
There's a good conversation we were having with Monica Crowley
earlier in this hour. I don't know. And I think
it's an important historical analogy that actually has some relevance
as opposed to the historical analogies that people like Kamala
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Harris and Joe Biden have been using about the Civil
War to describe our current time. In Bill Clinton nineteen
ninety four, he got shell act, he came back from it.
Same thing happened to Barack Obama in the midterms in
it was a two thousand and eight and he came
back from it. And I don't know two ten, I
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guess I don't know that Biden has anywhere near the
political skill to be able to come back from what
seems to be a clear shell acting that is coming
towards him in November. And so basically at that point,
we just sit and do nothing for two years because
there's nothing that's going to get through the House, there's
nothing that's going to get through the Senate. And I
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don't think Biden has the political muscle to be able
to build himself back up like Clinton and Obama did.
It's like he's on the high speed trains Lame Duckville.
You know, It's like he's getting there before anybody thought
could have even been possible. Because if you are the
Republicans at a newly earned majority, let's say in the
House and the Senate, which is very possible, why would
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you want to do anything that would fall into the
Democrat agenda? I mean, sure, you're gonna do the basic
stuff that they do on Capitol Hill and DC. But
why all of a sudden would you want to give
him the lifeline of triangulation. I think that's what you're
getting at, right, that there could be some political skill
that others would have to take a more moderate path.
They've already decided that they would use, say, infrastructure spending
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as a club with which they were going to, you know, say, essentially,
this is popular, so if you want this thing, you
have to give us the massive spending baggage on top
of it. Right, they've decided that this was going to
be a leverage point instead of a bipartisan measure. Why
would Republicans give them the win? You know, I think
that there's no reason to believe that Joe Biden's going
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to be in a better place going forward, although I
think that, you know, one of the aspects of this,
we have to remember things are so bad now that
they will be I think on the upswing for Biden
going into the fall. And I hate saying that aloud,
but I think it's true, just because how much worse
is it really gonna get? COVID can't be this ball.
I mean let's knock on wood, right, But COVID can't
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be this bad in the fall of twenty twenty two
as it is right now, and the economy people will
be saying, Oh, it's on the upswing, Oh it's getting better.
Don't underestimate the shamelessness of these Libs when it comes
to saying whatever they have to in order to get power.
Look what they did with Joe Biden the first place.
Look at they made president and now you think they're
going to start being honest, But the fact that he's
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terrible at this, of course not so. I think that
even though it feels like right now they have very
few cards to play, they're hiding things up their sleeves.
They'll cheat, they'll lie, they'll steal, they'll do whatever they
gotta do. So we have a formidable and I also played.
I don't want us to take the house to set it.
It has to be annihilation. This has to be repudiation
of the Democrat ideology over the last two years, or
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else we have underperformed as conservatives and as a party.
I think so because the message that's going to be
sent is going to be a massive one, and it
does it needs to be a red wave. It needs
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get rid of him. The governor actually Ken the governor
of New York HOCl who seems like an imbecile. So
this is not going to happen. But theoretically could replace him,
but that's not going to happen, and people are already
quite upset, and Clay to give folks a sense of
how close to home all this stuff is. You know,
why is everyone talking about crime? We're sure the numbers reflected,
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So we do this, We do this show here in
New York City, in Midtown and our our radio studio
right in the middle of the thick of things. Probably
the busiest, most crowded neighborhood day to day in all
of New York City is right around probably a one
square mile radius around where I'm doing the show right now.
And you had a carjacking one block from here one
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hour after we finished the show, so daylight. To put
it into context for where you guys are the New
York City studio, this is a safe neighborhood, right If
you were describing where guys are broadcasting from, it would
typically be it's gotten a lot worse, that's the point. Yes,
it's typically like that would be a pretty safe area. Yes, yeah,
historically Manhattan when you say, going back the last twenty years,
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Manhattan's been a very safe place. But it's getting worse
and worse and worse. And for a broad daylight carjacking
right in front of a fancy hotel one you know, right,
it was basically right on Broadway for anyone who knows
New York City, I mean, it's right in the middle
of all of it is just crazy. And then there's
another story, and this one is just this was rough
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to see. You had a good samaritan who and it's
all on video. New York Post has both these stories.
You know, The New York Times never covers this stuff
because you know, the people that subscribe at the Times,
they're all out in the Hampton's and talking about how
safe New York is while the butlers bring them their breakfast.
But here you have a guy, a vagrant actually took
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a good samaritan, was walking by a guy who looked
really colcas It's been freezing in New York City and
the last few days been in the twenties for the
last few days here, and it's all on video. And
the homeless man that the guy actually Clay gave his
coat to him in real time, offered him the coat
off his back because this guy looked cold. The guy
he gave the coat to assault at him, punched him
the face and stole his wallet and ran away. And
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it's all on video. And this is the you know
people always say, oh, we you know, we we have
to it's not about public safety. It's just about you know,
helping people need drug abuse. Now it's about public safety too. Actually,
when you have people camping out and living on the streets,
and people who are deeply either addicted or mentally ill
or both, who are not being uh, you know, interacting
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with the state in a way that allows them to
get the resources they need. It's just people ask me.
They're like, oh, why don't you just stop and give everybody?
You know, it's twenty all our bill when you walk
past them or not me, but people always, you know,
we'll talk about what should you do when you walk
past owner needs help? You know, it's depends depends. So
you've lived in New York your whole life pretty much? Yeah, crime,
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we know, murders are up pretty substantially over the past
couple of years. Crime in general, anecdotally certainly is up
you're using an example. Statistically is up too dramatically? Yeah,
and up in places where people are not used to
seeing crime happen. Right, How what is it compared to
in your experience? Like, do you feel like this is
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going back in time the pre Giuliani era? Is that
the kind of vibe you have, it's heading in that
direction for sure, And everyone who lives here and it
is being honest, will tell you that the worst that
New York ever was was nine nineteen ninety two, and
you were talking about over two thousand murders a year
in New York City, which is I mean, that's like
the casualties you would expect in a war somewhere over
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the course of a year, right, And that's that's crazy. Um.
And so it got all the way down to like
two fifty or three hundred d right. It became the
safest city of its size, and like I think the
western hemisphere basically, I mean it was, yeah, in North
and South America. It became one of the safest big
cities you could find anywhere. Not quite as safe as Tokyo,
but certainly getting close to it. And it's been ending
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hard in the other direction. And when you see these
things that are happening, and you see the numbers piling up,
we have to remind ourselves that there was a change.
It's not just even about BLM, and it's not just
about the progressive prosecutors. There was a change in the
overriding political philosophy of one of the two political parties
in this country that we were too harsh on criminals,
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that we backed police too much, and we needed a
fundamental shift away from the carceral state. And what we're
seeing is a lot of people being hurt, attacked, raped, murdered,
robbed in places that haven't experienced these kinds of numbers
in a long time. Bad ideas have consequences, Clay, and
they certainly have consequences here in New York City. And
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there should be at least a political accountability for the
people that push this crap. Why isn't every journalist asking
AOC every time she I mean, I know, I think
she's probably better from COVID now every time she pops up,
say hey, so, how do you really feel about defunding
police given the rise and murder rates nationwide and here
in New York City? You think that was a good idea,
But then let them get away with it. And by
the way, I'm glad you mentioned this because I was
reading this early this morning. We haven't seen this reported
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hardly anywhere. This was from the Wall Street Journal. The
number of police officers who were killed while on duty
hit a twenty year high, So seventy three different police
officers were murdered in twenty twenty, which was a twenty
year high, which directly reflects I think your point, Buck
about the demonization of police that has occurred in this country.
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It's not a surprise that as a result, police were
targeted at a level that has not happened nearly in
the twenty first century. Again, Wall Street Journal, seventy three
different police officers killed while on duty last year, a
twenty year high, And obviously this happened all over the country,
highest number since nine eleven. Buck because so many police
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officers died in the response to nine to eleven, I
haven't seen that hardly mentioned anywhere contextually. It is an
unfortunate marker or the world that we've created in a
post George Floyd America. Every career criminal in America knows
right now that if you get into a fight with
a cop and it's on video, there'll be some moron
going on CNN and MSNBC claiming excessive force police vin
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doesn't matter what you know, doesn't matter what you've done before,
doesn't matter what weapons you have on you. If it
looks bad on the video for a second, they're gonna say,
oh my god, I mean, look what happened with the guy.
What the cop who shot the girl in Ohio who
was swinging the knife in real time and Lebron I
meant to get to calls. I'm sorry, Clay, and I
got deeper into the crime thing. It hits close to
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home and they're carjacking a couple of maybe one hundred
and fifty yards from where we're doing the show. So anyway, UM,
we got Senator Josh Holly join us here to talk
about basically everything we're discussing right now, but specifically i'll
build to bad members of Congress from actively trading stocks.
Why does that matter to you? We'll explain that in
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a couple of moments here
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,
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Appreciate all of you listening out there live. Encourage you
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to make sure that you never miss an interview such
as the one that we're just about to begin right
now with Monica Crowley. She's a former assistant Treasury secretary
under Donald Trump. Just to call him up about the
idea of a Hillary Clinton comeback. We'll get into that
and more, but I want to start Monica first. Thanks
for coming on. Second, inflation yesterday hit seven percent, the
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highest rate it's been since nineteen eighty two. How do
we get back to the Fed's targeted goal of around
two percent inflation and what's the time frame that that
might require. Well, Hi, guys, thank you so much for
having me back. I could tells a pleasure and it
is an excellent question. You know, there were some of
us last year who were screaming that inflation was going
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to become a huge problem. I remember being on Fox Business.
I was all over radio. I was not the only one,
but I was certainly saying that inflation looks like it
is going to be far more persistent than what we
were being told by the powers that be, including President Biden,
Vice President Harris, Treasury Secretary Jenny Yellen, and the said
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Chair Jerome Powell. They were all telling us last year, listen,
there is some inflation, but it's going to be transitory.
It's all associated with opening the economy back up and
all of this pence up demand. But once that dust
settles come the fall last year, they expected inflation to subside.
What we have seen the exact opposite. And what we
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all knew that they either didn't know or ignored is
the fact that there was so much money that has
been pumped down into the system over the last two
years that of course there's this excess cash there's rolling
around the system, that of course you are going to
have inflationary pressures. They thought, well, we can continue to
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keep the interest rates at record lows, and with all
this fiscal policy, you know, the booming demand will come
back and help mop up all of this cash. Well,
that didn't happen. And you know, obviously those of us
in the Trump administration. During the pandemic, the President made
the very difficult decision to shut down the economy for
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a period of time, and so there was a realization
that the government needed to step into the reach. And
therefore we had all of this emergency level spending because
we were in an actual emergency. Well, Biden and the
Democrats come in a January of last year and they
continue the emergency level spending without the emergency. So they
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took a potentially inflationary situation and actually made it come
to path and then exacerbated it by all of this
excess spending. So what we have to do now, guys,
is stop the spending. Thank god for Joe Mansion, stop
and go back better. But we've got to make sure
that both on the fiscal and monetary sides, there is
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no more stimulus. No more fiscal stimulus coming out of
the White House and Congress, no more monetary stimulus coming
out of the said speaking to Monica Crowley, former Assistant
Treasury Secretary under Donald Trump. She's also got a piece
today up the New York Post. Hillary twenty twenty four
with Biden and Harris incredibly weak, Clinton c's a comeback. So, Monica,
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you and I have known each other for a while.
You know the folks that can often formulate a consensus
like this, even a short term one in the media,
that this is as a possibility. You really think this
is a this is one that we could see in
the long term come to fruition. They're maybe the great
Hillary comeback of twenty twenty four. I think for some
people they're gonna have nightmares if they think this is possible,
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but it will be entertaining. Well, Hillary Clinton is a
recurring nightmare, but it's often fun to talk about. This
is Clinton, isn't it. Look I have been talking about
this woman for twenty years. She's been on the national
stage for thirty years, and I have just seen some
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moves on her part that suggests to me that as
she looks around at the catastrophic collapse of Biden and
Harris and then the catastrophic collapse of their policy agenda,
disasters in every direction, I think her revenge fantasy is
that the Democrats see her as the only vibal option
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going into twenty four, and that they will come and
beg her to save the day. Now, it could transpire
in a couple of different ways. I mean, she could
certainly run. I do think there's going to be an
open Mary because Biden obviously is not running again. He's
already eating stream peace, Okay, so he's not going to
make it to twenty twenty four. So she could either
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run in an open primary, or if the Democrats decide
that Kamala Harris is far too much of a liability
to continue, they basically have one year while this Congress
is still in place, because Congress has to approve any
vice presidential replacement to move her out of the way,
make her an offer she can't refusese get her out
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of there and then replace her. Now they're going to
have the identity politics problem because Kamala is a black woman,
and they don't want to alienate black voters, specifically black women.
So Hillary would have a challenge there to try to
stave off as Stacy Abrahams or a Keisha Bottoms or
someone else like that. But Hillary is a fighter, and
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I'm telling you she has refused to go quietly into
that dark political night. Ambition burns as strong as ever,
and I'm telling you she's planning to put Bigfoot all
comers to try to get that top job. This is
fascinating to think about. You're convinced that Biden is not
going to run again. Let's presume that that's true. When
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would he make that announcement that he would not seek reelection?
Because there's a lot of focus, I think in the
chattering class, including us, about when Trump might announce that
he's going to run again in twenty twenty four. When
do you think Biden would announce? Hey, you know, he's
kind of a lame duck already. Presuming that the Democrats
lose the House in twenty twenty two and may well
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lose the Senate as well, what's the time frame for
Biden to say basically, hey, I'm done. Well, you know,
a lot of Democrats looking at this scenario are saying
he should not announce anytime, certainly not before the midterms,
but even in his third year of his presidency. He
should not because he will be perceived as a lame
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duck and get nothing. Well, I have used for those Democrats.
He's already a lame duck. I mean, if Jill Mansion
and Christian cinemall hold the line on build back better
and the big domestic spending agenda and as voting nonsense.
If they hold the line, his domestic agenda is done
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from here on out, thank god, and certainly after the
midterms when Republicans take control, as we believe that they will.
So I don't think that is applicable. But I also
don't think he's going to make any kind of announcement
before his third year in the presidency. He's got to
if he's not gonna run, he's got to do it
for the party. He's got to step aside so candidates
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can come forward, fundraising can begin, and all of those
things can happen. But he's not going to want to
do it before that third year. Say the Democrats are
in a real, real bind, Monica. Do you think that
they're going to have to just by virtue of the
fact that they're going into a mid term that everyone
now thinks is going to be a shellacking. Biden numbers
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are in the basement and feels like they might go
to the sub basement pretty soon. Do you think they're
going to have to back off some of the crazier
COVID restrictions and madness sooner than later or is this
what the base wants of the Democrat Party? Therefore they're
going to keep us going deep into summer, because I
know the caseload is going to start to a lesson.
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We know this a cyclical nature of this virus. But
if they put the country through two or three months
of suppressed economic activity and the psychological damage of more
crazy restrictions, that's going to be something I think is
remembered this fall and is going to be reflected in
the numbers. So they how do you think they play it?
It's very difficult for them to square this circle. They're
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really on the horns of a dilemma because on the
one hand, they love the restrictions because that's more power
and control for them, and going into twenty two with
mail in voting and all of the things we saw
it come to pass last year as a result of
the pandemic. They want to keep in place so that
they can conduct their fraud and their staff and their
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shenanigans to try to mitigate some of the losses that
are coming their way in the fall. But on the
other hand, all of these restrictions are a huge drag
on the party. You're already seeing not just buying and
the Harris's numbers, but the Democrats across the board are
really suffering in the polls because number one, you've got
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this weakening economy, You've got catastrophes in every direction. But
I do think that one of the big drivers of
that are these COVID restrictions. The American people have had enough.
They've had enough of having to show their papers to
go to a restaurant. They've had enough of their kids
being pulled back and forth like yo yos with school closures.
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They've had enough of being told masks work until they
don't work. They've had enough, and they're ready now to
live their lives with COVID and negotiates life in this
new reality. And if the Democrats don't change their tune
on these restrictions and start lifting some of these things,
I think that the losses they're going to see in
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November are going to be even worse. That's why you're
seeing changing messaging from the White House, changing messaging from FAUCI,
changing messaging from the CDC. It's not because the science
has changed has changed, it's because the politics has changed.
We're talking to Monica Crowley, former assistant Treasury Secretary under
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Donald Trump. You mentioned the idea of Hillary Clinton even
potentially getting slid in as the vice president. That would
require Kamala Harris giving up the office. Do you think
there's any chance that she would accept a Supreme Court
appointment in the event that Stephen Bryer decided to step down,
as many in the Democratic Party are trying to pressure
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him to do this summer. Well, you know, this is
one of the reasons why I wanted to write the
column that appears in Today's New York Post, and you
can see it all across my social media Twitter, get
her Instagram, I posted it everywhere. They are going to
have to make Vice President Harris an offer she can't
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refuse because she is not also not going to go
quietly into that political night. So unless they have some
compromising material or something on her to get her out,
she is not going to go quietly. If she stays
and runs, she's going to think like a stone like
she did in the twenty twenty cycle. They could offer
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her if you suggest something different that is perceived as
a lateral move, and the Supreme Court would be considered
a lateral move from the Vice presidency, So they could
convince her to do that, but again, they're going to
have to do this in the next twelve months, actually
the next eleven months, while they still have control of
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the call. Grish should try to get a replacement approved
because once Republicans gain control, it's game over. I mean,
if they presenting Hillary Clinton to her Republican House, forget it.
It's got gonna happen. So all of these dominoes are
gonna have to fall pretty soon if this scenario is
going to take place, and if it doesn't, they're gonna
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be stuck with Kamala running for president and that is
going to be a death knell for them. Monica Crowley,
everybody check out New York Post dot Com today, Hillary
twenty twenty four. She's got a piece up there. Follow
Monica on Twitter. Monica Crowley, my friend. Good to have you.
Thanks for being here with us. Always a pleasure. Thanks guys.
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she is consistent and that there is a principle here,
and the Democrats hate her for that right now. Of course,
because there's not supposed to be any principles when you're
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recognize power. So what is this doesn't matter that Chuck
Schumer and others have given speeches in vociferous defense of
the filibuster. In fact, here is Senator Tom Cotton delivering
his favorite pro filibuster in the Senate speech formally given
by Chuck Schumer. The audiologues in the Senate want to
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turn what the founding fathers called the cooling saucer of
democracy into a rubber stamp of dictatorship. They will make
this country into a banana republic where if you don't
get your way, you change the rules. Are we going
to let them? It will be a doomsday for democracy
if we do. As are powerful words, but they're not mine.
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Every word. If my speech today was originally spoken by
our esteemed colleague, the senior Senator from New York, Chuck Schumer,
words that are as true today as they were when
he spoke them. Even if Senator Schumer is singing a
different tune today, is there even a debate here, Clay, really,
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I mean, come on, I know. Look, first of all,
I think we need to give credit to Kursten Cinema
and to Joe Mansion, because both of those senators have
done what they think is right for principle as opposed
to party. And so what's interesting here to me Buck
about this timing is Joe Biden is eating lunch with
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the Senate Democrats right now. So Kirsten Cinema specifically chose
to go give this speech right before Biden came to
Capitol Hill. Joe Mansion, by the way, has praised it.
There's been talk at Mark Kelly in Arizona that Shaheen
in New Hampshire and Bacchus in Montana are also Democrats
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who are opposed to this bill as well, but have
not felt the need to speak out because if there's
not fifty votes then they don't necessarily have to take
a strong stand like Cinema has. But this to me
feels a little bit like sticking a middle finger in
the direction of Joe Biden for Cinema to decide to
make this speech right before he arrives on Capitol Hill
(17:28):
for lunch. I guess you can argue it either way,
if she watches him make his pitch to everybody and
then goes and gives the speech after lunch, isn't more
of an insult. I think what's clear here is Joe
Biden wildly miscalculated in his Tuesday speech when he tried
to equate everyone who didn't support changing filibuster rules here
to being Jefferson Davis or George Wallace. And there are
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a lot of people, certainly Republicans, but even many Democrats,
who felt like his language was so charged that it
actually made any success less likely. Instead, more like I've
always said, Joe Biden's not some super nice guy. People
who actually know his career know that that's all a fraud.
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a football fan, lots super wild Card weekend, Saturday Sunday games.
Want to clean up something we're talking about who might
be opposed to the filibuster. Not only do we know
because we just said Kirsten Cinema, who just spoke from Arizona,
we know Joe Manchin as opposed to changing the filibuster rules. Also,
there have been reports that Shaheen out of New Hampshire,
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and that Mark Kelly the other senator from Arizona, both
Democrats who are unclear whether or not they support the
filibuster rules being changed. And I said Bacchus Tester is
the senator that I meant from Montana. Bacchus has not
been a senator there for about seven or eight years now,
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but he was a longtime Democratic senator from Montana. So
Tester is is the Democratic senator that maybe wobbly. Bigger
picture here, it's that everyone is going to focus on
Cinema and Mansion and say, oh, they are they are
the impediments to passing this bill and changing the rules
of the filibuster. That's not actually true. There are likely
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several other Democrats that are also still opposed. And one reason,
by the way, Buck, there are lots of reasons why
changing the filibuster rules is radical, but in particular it's
radical because Joe Biden is in the middle of an
absolute collapse in his overall political support. Poll came out
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yesterday afternoon while we were on air, Quinnipiac Pole and here,
by the way, are the last seven approval ratings in
this Quinnipiac poll. Forty nine percent, forty six percent, forty
two percent, thirty eight percent, thirty seven percent, thirty six percent,
and then yesterday afternoon thirty three percent approval for Joe Biden,
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fifty three percent disapproval. And I want to hit you
with a couple at numbers here Buck that stood out
to me. Joe Biden right now for independent voters has
an approval rating of twenty five percent. For Black voters
even it's down to fifty seven percent White voters thirty
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two percent approval rating. Hispanic Hispanic voters have a twenty
eight percent approval rating right now for Joe Biden. That
is lower than white voter approval ratings. Jos are numbers
that are unbelievable. Joe Biden is about as popular as
a root canal everybody. That's where we are here. And
this is astonishing but not surprising either when you look
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at what the promise was of this administration. You know,
we talk about the failures in specifics of the border, economy, inflation, crime,
all these things, and when we say Joe Biden, it's
really the regime. It's Democrats setting the narrative and the
political agenda across the nation in different ways, and certainly
in the era of COVID, they've been more engaged in
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overreach and I think constitutional violation than at anytime we've seen,
really in my lifetime. I can't think of anything that
really is quite a lot. There were some moments in
the War on Terror when things maybe got heavy handed
with the government here at home, but nothing on the
scale that we've seen with COVID. But Clay, there's also
the broken fundamental promise of why did people go to
(22:34):
vote for Joe Biden? And this is something Democrats do
all the time. Republicans. The problem Republicans have is they
get elected and these are generalizations, but we're talking politics,
we're gonna have to generalize. They get elected promising something
and then they don't deliver what they promise to the base.
That's the problem, the fundamental problem I think of Republicans.
Often Democrats get elected to pretending to be something other
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than that which they are. Though right, they'll like Joe
Biden in this case is saying he's a unifier. As
a uniter, you know, it's not that he is a
guy who wants to push through a left wing agenda
and be a spokesperson effectively for the more radical parts
of the Democrat apparatus. He was a guy that was
going to be America's Grandpa, and we're all scared. We've
all got this COVID thing flying around, right, Joe Biden
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is a guy you can trust. This whole Joe Biden
is nasty. He says horrible things about his political opponents.
He says reckless things in front of the American people,
as he just did in that speech a couple of
days ago. His whole pandemic of the unvaccinated line is disgraceful,
and he keeps repeating it. He is the opposite of
what he pretended to be to be elected in a
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once in a century pandemic situation, and I think people
are recognizing that. I don't know how he climbs out
of it. We had this discussion Buck, You'll remember in
the summer when we had the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, and
the overall consensus at that point in time was that
foreign policy doesn't typically American approval ratings. But I do
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think it was an important tipping point for Joe Biden
because Afghanistan, for many people, reflected the overall incompetence of
the Biden administration, whether it was at the border, whether
it was the murder rate, whether it's now with COVID.
The most interesting thing I think in this Quinnipiac poll
buck is for the first time Joe Biden is now
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substantially underwater when it comes to his response on COVID.
That's been the only thing that has been his saving
grace so far was that there were enough people in
America who trusted him on COVID. Now he's lost there too.
There's not one single thing that Joe Biden is doing
right now of a significant magnitude that is positively reviewed,
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whether it's immigration, the border, COVID, his domestic agenda, all
of it has been soundly rejected. And so I don't know.
There's a good conversation we were having with Monica Crowley
earlier in this hour. I don't know. And I think
it's an important historical analogy that actually has some relevance
as opposed to the historical analogies that people like Kamala
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Harris and Joe Biden have been using about the Civil
War to describe our current time. In Bill Clinton nineteen
ninety four, he got shell act, he came back from it.
Same thing happened to Barack Obama in the midterms in
it was a two thousand and eight and he came
back from it. And I don't know two ten, I
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guess I don't know that Biden has anywhere near the
political skill to be able to come back from what
seems to be a clear shell acting that is coming
towards him in November. And so basically at that point,
we just sit and do nothing for two years because
there's nothing that's going to get through the House, there's
nothing that's going to get through the Senate. And I
(25:50):
don't think Biden has the political muscle to be able
to build himself back up like Clinton and Obama did.
It's like he's on the high speed trains Lame Duckville.
You know, It's like he's getting there before anybody thought
could have even been possible. Because if you are the
Republicans at a newly earned majority, let's say in the
House and the Senate, which is very possible, why would
(26:12):
you want to do anything that would fall into the
Democrat agenda? I mean, sure, you're gonna do the basic
stuff that they do on Capitol Hill and DC. But
why all of a sudden would you want to give
him the lifeline of triangulation. I think that's what you're
getting at, right, that there could be some political skill
that others would have to take a more moderate path.
They've already decided that they would use, say, infrastructure spending
(26:35):
as a club with which they were going to, you know, say, essentially,
this is popular, so if you want this thing, you
have to give us the massive spending baggage on top
of it. Right, they've decided that this was going to
be a leverage point instead of a bipartisan measure. Why
would Republicans give them the win? You know, I think
that there's no reason to believe that Joe Biden's going
(26:55):
to be in a better place going forward, although I
think that, you know, one of the aspects of this,
we have to remember things are so bad now that
they will be I think on the upswing for Biden
going into the fall. And I hate saying that aloud,
but I think it's true, just because how much worse
is it really gonna get? COVID can't be this ball.
I mean let's knock on wood, right, But COVID can't
(27:17):
be this bad in the fall of twenty twenty two
as it is right now, and the economy people will
be saying, Oh, it's on the upswing, Oh it's getting better.
Don't underestimate the shamelessness of these Libs when it comes
to saying whatever they have to in order to get power.
Look what they did with Joe Biden the first place.
Look at they made president and now you think they're
going to start being honest, But the fact that he's
(27:38):
terrible at this, of course not so. I think that
even though it feels like right now they have very
few cards to play, they're hiding things up their sleeves.
They'll cheat, they'll lie, they'll steal, they'll do whatever they
gotta do. So we have a formidable and I also played.
I don't want us to take the house to set it.
It has to be annihilation. This has to be repudiation
of the Democrat ideology over the last two years, or
(28:01):
else we have underperformed as conservatives and as a party.
I think so because the message that's going to be
sent is going to be a massive one, and it
does it needs to be a red wave. It needs
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(29:53):
get rid of him. The governor actually Ken the governor
of New York HOCl who seems like an imbecile. So
this is not going to happen. But theoretically could replace him,
but that's not going to happen, and people are already
quite upset, and Clay to give folks a sense of
how close to home all this stuff is. You know,
why is everyone talking about crime? We're sure the numbers reflected,
(30:15):
So we do this, We do this show here in
New York City, in Midtown and our our radio studio
right in the middle of the thick of things. Probably
the busiest, most crowded neighborhood day to day in all
of New York City is right around probably a one
square mile radius around where I'm doing the show right now.
And you had a carjacking one block from here one
(30:41):
hour after we finished the show, so daylight. To put
it into context for where you guys are the New
York City studio, this is a safe neighborhood, right If
you were describing where guys are broadcasting from, it would
typically be it's gotten a lot worse, that's the point. Yes,
it's typically like that would be a pretty safe area. Yes, yeah,
historically Manhattan when you say, going back the last twenty years,
(31:03):
Manhattan's been a very safe place. But it's getting worse
and worse and worse. And for a broad daylight carjacking
right in front of a fancy hotel one you know, right,
it was basically right on Broadway for anyone who knows
New York City, I mean, it's right in the middle
of all of it is just crazy. And then there's
another story, and this one is just this was rough
(31:24):
to see. You had a good samaritan who and it's
all on video. New York Post has both these stories.
You know, The New York Times never covers this stuff
because you know, the people that subscribe at the Times,
they're all out in the Hampton's and talking about how
safe New York is while the butlers bring them their breakfast.
But here you have a guy, a vagrant actually took
(31:49):
a good samaritan, was walking by a guy who looked
really colcas It's been freezing in New York City and
the last few days been in the twenties for the
last few days here, and it's all on video. And
the homeless man that the guy actually Clay gave his
coat to him in real time, offered him the coat
off his back because this guy looked cold. The guy
he gave the coat to assault at him, punched him
the face and stole his wallet and ran away. And
(32:10):
it's all on video. And this is the you know
people always say, oh, we you know, we we have
to it's not about public safety. It's just about you know,
helping people need drug abuse. Now it's about public safety too. Actually,
when you have people camping out and living on the streets,
and people who are deeply either addicted or mentally ill
or both, who are not being uh, you know, interacting
(32:35):
with the state in a way that allows them to
get the resources they need. It's just people ask me.
They're like, oh, why don't you just stop and give everybody?
You know, it's twenty all our bill when you walk
past them or not me, but people always, you know,
we'll talk about what should you do when you walk
past owner needs help? You know, it's depends depends. So
you've lived in New York your whole life pretty much? Yeah, crime,
(32:57):
we know, murders are up pretty substantially over the past
couple of years. Crime in general, anecdotally certainly is up
you're using an example. Statistically is up too dramatically? Yeah,
and up in places where people are not used to
seeing crime happen. Right, How what is it compared to
in your experience? Like, do you feel like this is
(33:17):
going back in time the pre Giuliani era? Is that
the kind of vibe you have, it's heading in that
direction for sure, And everyone who lives here and it
is being honest, will tell you that the worst that
New York ever was was nine nineteen ninety two, and
you were talking about over two thousand murders a year
in New York City, which is I mean, that's like
the casualties you would expect in a war somewhere over
(33:38):
the course of a year, right, And that's that's crazy. Um.
And so it got all the way down to like
two fifty or three hundred d right. It became the
safest city of its size, and like I think the
western hemisphere basically, I mean it was, yeah, in North
and South America. It became one of the safest big
cities you could find anywhere. Not quite as safe as Tokyo,
but certainly getting close to it. And it's been ending
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hard in the other direction. And when you see these
things that are happening, and you see the numbers piling up,
we have to remind ourselves that there was a change.
It's not just even about BLM, and it's not just
about the progressive prosecutors. There was a change in the
overriding political philosophy of one of the two political parties
in this country that we were too harsh on criminals,
(34:20):
that we backed police too much, and we needed a
fundamental shift away from the carceral state. And what we're
seeing is a lot of people being hurt, attacked, raped, murdered,
robbed in places that haven't experienced these kinds of numbers
in a long time. Bad ideas have consequences, Clay, and
they certainly have consequences here in New York City. And
(34:42):
there should be at least a political accountability for the
people that push this crap. Why isn't every journalist asking
AOC every time she I mean, I know, I think
she's probably better from COVID now every time she pops up,
say hey, so, how do you really feel about defunding
police given the rise and murder rates nationwide and here
in New York City? You think that was a good idea,
But then let them get away with it. And by
the way, I'm glad you mentioned this because I was
reading this early this morning. We haven't seen this reported
(35:06):
hardly anywhere. This was from the Wall Street Journal. The
number of police officers who were killed while on duty
hit a twenty year high, So seventy three different police
officers were murdered in twenty twenty, which was a twenty
year high, which directly reflects I think your point, Buck
about the demonization of police that has occurred in this country.
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It's not a surprise that as a result, police were
targeted at a level that has not happened nearly in
the twenty first century. Again, Wall Street Journal, seventy three
different police officers killed while on duty last year, a
twenty year high, And obviously this happened all over the country,
highest number since nine eleven. Buck because so many police
(35:51):
officers died in the response to nine to eleven, I
haven't seen that hardly mentioned anywhere contextually. It is an
unfortunate marker or the world that we've created in a
post George Floyd America. Every career criminal in America knows
right now that if you get into a fight with
a cop and it's on video, there'll be some moron
going on CNN and MSNBC claiming excessive force police vin
(36:15):
doesn't matter what you know, doesn't matter what you've done before,
doesn't matter what weapons you have on you. If it
looks bad on the video for a second, they're gonna say,
oh my god, I mean, look what happened with the guy.
What the cop who shot the girl in Ohio who
was swinging the knife in real time and Lebron I
meant to get to calls. I'm sorry, Clay, and I
got deeper into the crime thing. It hits close to
(36:36):
home and they're carjacking a couple of maybe one hundred
and fifty yards from where we're doing the show. So anyway, UM,
we got Senator Josh Holly join us here to talk
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