May 13, 2022 • 37 mins
Pandemia author Alex Berenson joins Clay to analyze the latest on covid and free speech in America. What would the media do if Trump had presided over this covid disaster? OutKick's Bobby Burack talks woke sports with Clay. Netflix finally tells woke employees to quit if they're offended. Friday the 13th: What are your favorite scary movies?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Friday edition,
Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. Buck is in Chicago out today. He
will be back on Monday. I am piloting the filing
the plane here solo, and we're gonna be joined. I
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think now we got a couple of guests coming up.
Alex Berenson is with us. He used to be on Twitter,
he now is banned there. We talked about some of
the drama surrounding Elon musk potential acquisition of Twitter in
the first hour of the show. But Alex, first of all,
thanks for coming on. Second, I saw something that I
my jaw dropped, and I mentioned it to close the
first hour. CNN wrote an article acknowledging that many of
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the people dying with COVID now have received both of
the COVID shots initial COVID shots. In fact that they
said almost half of the people dying with COVID in
January were double vaccinated for COVID. I don't know if
you read that article, but I imagine that the fact
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that CNN is now writing this is just further validation
and vindication for the surrounding COVID vaccine story. Yes, I mean,
you know, people are starting to admit this and honestly
that those numbers are only going up. You know, I
have data that I'm going to put out on my
stub stack very soon. You know. One of the things
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that's happening, by the way, is that because the data
is looking worse and worse for the vaccines, more jurisdictions,
more states and countries are starting to not report it.
They're starting to not report these sort of weekly or
monthly numbers. I mean, in the US the data has
always been kind of scatter shut. But even in place
like the UK, they stopped reporting it. But there are
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still places that are reporting it. And for example, in
in British Columbia, where there's very sort of up to
date data, almost everyone who died has been vaccinated and
boosted in the last month. I'm talking about not January,
but in the last month, um, fewer than ten percent
of the people who died were unvaccinated. So the vaccine Yeah, yeah,
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and I'm gonna it's it's amazing actually, um. And so
the vaccine efficacy looks like it's pretty close to zero
right now against infection and against serious outcomes form. You know, listen,
the vaccines were always not what they were cracked up
to be, but Amacon appears to have made them basically useful.
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So if the vaccines are truly basically useless, what does
that tell us about where we are headed in the
summer and the fall of twenty twenty two? From your perspective, Yeah,
you know, that's that's a really good question, and I'm
not I'm not going to try to duck it. I
don't think we know because it depends on two crucial things.
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One is, are we going to get another variant that's
worse than amacon? Isn't isn't that dangerous? Right? It is?
It is very virulent, but it isn't. I mean, I'm sorry,
it is very contagious, but it isn't that virent. So
you see these numbers showing that that you know a
huge number of children, for example, have antibodies. Now is
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the CDC data that's right? So are do those kids
have protection? Now? What about adults? Do we have protection?
And knowing that question is also very complicated because for
people who weren't vaccinated, you probably have pretty good post
infection protection, but the vaccinations may actually hamper that process. Um,
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you have fewer anti n antibodies, which is a which
is a different part of the virus actually, and not
having those may hurt you going forward. So so so
that that's a question we don't know. And then the
other question we don't know, which is potentially even more important,
is how bad is the next thing going to be?
Will it be like Amicon or will it be you know,
more like Delta where it is actually somewhat more dangerous
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to people. So and I don't think anybody can know
that either. Um, what I would here's the two points
that I would make that I can say with certain.
One is the people who should be doing the research
about this are very incentivized not to do it right
because it all comes down to the same question, which
is how badly have the vaccines sailed us? And that
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is a question that they don't want to answer. So
so unless things get really bad, which you can sort
of expect, is the data is just gonna you know,
the data spigot is slowly going to turn off, and
so the same you know, and the second question is like,
why can't we have an honest I mean it's related,
but why can't we have an honest conversation about this?
And again, the answer is the same, because an honest
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conversation would acknowledge that the vaccines basically have sailed. But
you're but here's the thing, but you're seeing the reality
of this in that almost nobody is getting a second
boost or a force shot. You're seeing the reality in
the idea of vaccine mandates for kids is just completely
off the table. So this is and by the way,
the stock prices, you know, especially of Maderna, which is
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sort of the surest vaccine company, I mean these companies.
Maderna a couple days ago was near it was at
a one year low. So people and you're seeing you're
seeing hundreds of millions of vaccine does in cold storage
in the United States. People just are not getting vaccinated
right now. So Johnson and john we're talking to Alex Berenson,
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who has been one of the foremost purveyors of what
I would say is truth surrounding this COVID disinformation brigade.
Johnson and Johnson essentially pulled the FDA, essentially pulled the
Johnson and Johnson vaccine. That was the one shot version
that tens of millions of people got. Yes, that is
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that totally reflected in the data, that the J and
J is worse than Maderna or Fizer or is this
like a finger in the damn to acknowledge the J
and J issue us while pretending that Maderna Advisor there
are no issues. UM, I think it's the latter. Uh,
there's there's no evidence that J and J is broadly
more dangerous than Maderna or Visor. And in fact, as
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as a data scientists pointed out a few days ago,
and this was an amazing thing. If you look at
the uh, the data from the clinical trials, right, which
is the best data. It's the only clean data we have. UM.
And unfortunately, you know, the clinical trials were cut short
last year when when the companies gave everybody in the
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placebo arm the vaccines. We don't have clean clinical trial anymore.
But if you go back and you look at the
initial cut of data that was clean, there was no UM,
there was no advantage in all cause mortality on the
vaccine side in the Maderna and Visor trials. So now
if you got the Maderna vaccine. If or if you
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got the FISA vaccine, you were just as likely to
die of anything of a heart attack or COVID or
a car accident or anything else as if you got
a placebo. That was not true of Jane Jay or
the Astrosennica vaccine, which works like the James J vaccine.
In those there was actually a notable advantage for people
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who got the vaccine, and there was a vaccine actually
seemed to protect people from dying broadly, which is what
you would hope a vaccine would do. Now, we don't
know what that really means. We don't know why that
might have been. It might have been a statistical anomaly,
it might have been we don't know. Okay, But but
when you when you when you hear that, when you
hear hey, the vaccine actually seemed to be protective for
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Jay and Ja, but not for you know, not in
the Astros say not in the Maderna or Finder travels.
You said yourself, why would they pull up to Jane
j vaccine and let the others continue? I don't know it.
So how would the media be covering as we approach
a million deaths with COVID, which is its own story.
And I keep saying with COVID because obviously many of
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these people dying have a variety of comorbidities and may
have died otherwise. And we're now in three years worth
of taling all these numbers. If Donald Trump had one
reelection in twenty twenty and we're still in office and
everything else is the exact same in terms of the
COVID shots that are being delivered Johnson and Johnson being
pulled by the FDA, how would the media be covering,
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in your opinion, these COVID shots if Trump were in
office compared to Biden. You know, that is a great question.
I think you would. You would be hearing rush trials.
You would be hearing the vaccines did not work as promised.
You would be hearing we've spent you know, billions and
billions of dollars on vaccines that look like they will
never be used. You would be hearing, you know, there's
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a promise that these would be updated quickly against new variants,
and that didn't work. You'd been hearing we don't know
what the long term effects on immunity are, because you know,
we see that people don't seem to be developing broad
immunity afterwards, you'd be hearing, why are there's so many reinfections?
You'd been hearing, why is it now that every time
somebody gets a fourth dose, they you know, they immediately
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seem to come down with amicron. I mean, I think
the perspective, you're hearing everything, and I'm asking, Okay, yeah,
everyport right, right. I would not be the only reporter
in the media would use the COVID shots as a
proxy to attack Donald Trump if he were still in
office and everything else were the exact same. Instead, the
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media uses the COVID shots as a proxy to support people,
to attack people who supported Donald Trump, right, who may
be choosing not to get the COVID shot. It's really
remarkable to think about, and I think it's important to
to bring that to light. Okay, yeah, other, Yeah, the
other thing I'm really curious. Yeah, you would hear, you
would hear most of all you said it. Actually, you'd hear,
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why is it that we're in year three of this
and there's been a million deaths with slash from COVID.
Why if we had more deaths post vaccines than pre
That's what you'd be hearing. Yeah, And frankly, nobody's blaming
Joe Biden for a million COVID deaths. Everybody blamed Donald
Trump for a couple of hundred thousand COVID deaths, and
now we've had hundreds of thousands of more, and nobody's like, oh,
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this is Joe Biden's fault. They tried to hang that
on Trump to cost him the twenty twenty election. Now,
China is still staying committed alex to the COVID zero policy,
and their COVID zero policy has obviously led to draconian
lockdowns in Shanghai. There's been fears about what might happen
in Beijing. How tenable is this COVID zero policy of
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Chairman Z in China and where in the world is
that heading so far as you can tell, I mean,
that's a great question. You know, a month ago, I
would have said it's impossible. You know, the acons just
too you know, it's too contagious. They appear to be
able to knock it down in these you know, in
short term, you know, with this draconium lockdowns, I mean
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cases have gone down. You have not seen this, assuming
they're being honest about the numbers, which is always a
caveat I think we have to toss out right, But
it's you know, if they're not, then why would they
have announced what had happened in Shanghai to begin with.
So yeah, right, it's it's weird, Like I mean, I
think it's a terrible strategy. Obviously, it's a terrible strategy
in general. It's certainly terrible strategy as Amicron, which is
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less dangerous. And at some point, unless you're gonna live
like this forever, you're gonna you're gonna have to, you know,
take the you know, take the restrictions off and let
people get this and live with it. But but they don't. Look,
I have no idea what because they're the mind of
a dictator. I have no idea why, you know, Vladimir
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Putin decided to invade Ukraine. I have no idea why
they're doing what they're doing. But they do appear committed
to it. And I have to say that what happened
in Shanghai actually it's likely to just reinforce that because
they did knock it down. What else should Well, let
me ask you this before I'll close with a COVID question.
And I'm curious. Elon Musk came out and said he
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thinks Donald Trump should be allowed back on Twitter. I
would presume that that would work well for your likelihood
of being allowed back on Twitter as well. Have you
gotten any indications, and I know there's a lot of
still turmoil about whether Elon Musk will buy Twitter effectively
and the stock prices is jockeying a lot today. Have
you gotten any indication that you would be allowed back
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on Twitter and an Elon must owned company. No, I
have not, and I have not. You know, he has
not contacted me. You know, I've sued Twitter, and my
lawsuit is proceeding, you know, my lawsuit to survive as
the motion to dismiss, which is something not a lot
of people know because the media has essentially blacked it out.
I mean, the mainstream media has refused to report on
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the fact that you know, Trump versus Twitter got dismissed,
but parents and versus Twitter did not. And so I'm
going to get discovery that's going to allow me to
understand how Twitter, you know, worked with or didn't work
with the government. Yeah, to stand me and so so
I mean, I'm very excited to know, you know, to
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have that chance, and I don't know what the discovery
will say. That's what it's called discovery. But we'll find out.
So I mean, from from my point of where, there
isn't even bigger issue here, which is that my free
speech rights should not be dependent on Elon musk Okay,
even if he's and you know, Tesla does a lot
of business in China, you know Elon. Look, let's let's
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assume the best for Elon. Let's assume that he actually
means everything he says about free speech. It doesn't matter.
That's my right as an American. And you know California
law of the California Constitution. There's lots of reasons that
I should be allowed to speak freely on this incredibly
important platform. And that's what I'm fighting for. And you know,
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this lawsuit is moving forward and we'll see what happens. Okay,
you mentioned the data that you're going to share at
your sub stack, which I would encourage people to subscribe
and or read. You can read Alex Barns in there.
What else do you think people should know about the
latest in data and or discussion as it pertains to
COVID right now? I just think I mean the number
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one thing is this idea that the vaccines really are
you know they have they are demonstrating zero efficacy, certainly
zero efficacy against infection and transmission, if anything, negative efficacy.
And you know, I mean, I don't think anybody who
listens to you is lining up at this point for
a booster or a second booster. But I don't know
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why anybody would do that. And so you know that
that's I think where we are it hasn't changed that much.
We will see what happens this summer in the Southern States,
if there's another Southern sturge, and what that looks like.
And by the way, just to continue to reiterate, you've
got young kids. I've got young kids. We haven't gotten
them COVID shots. It would be crazy in your opinion,
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based on the data that you look at, to be
getting young kids COVID shots, particularly because five percent of
them have already had it. Crazy it is, and that
is a rate point. And you know there's a if
you go on lefty Twitter epithemiology, you know Twitter, you
see these people. You know, we can't wait for the
FDA to you know, to approve the shots for people
for kids under five. Look even If that happens, I
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can tell you it's going to be like five or
ten percent of the country that does that. Now, they're
going to be all the people you know who work
for the New York Times, you know, so you'll hear
about it. But don't keep yourself, you know, don't be fooled.
Like no one is getting their young children's vaccinated against
there's nobody with any sense as well. They shouldn't Alex Berenson,
We appreciate the time. Go check out the substack for Alex.
He does phenomenal work there. We'll talk to you again soon.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show how great
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that Twitter to get Alex Barnson band is going to
be incredibly illuminating, I think, to demonstrating just how much
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coordination to try to silence dissent existed in the early
days of the Joe Biden White House and continues to
this day. But again, I just want all of you
to be thinking, what would the media be saying if
Donald Trump were still in office and everything else was
the exact same with COVID. Think about how much Donald
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Trump got blamed for everyone who died with COVID in
the presidential run up. Remember, Joe Biden said any president
that was in office when two hundred and twenty thousand
people died didn't deserve to stay in office. He said
that in the debate. Well, Joe Biden is now in
office and over a million people have died with COVID.
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in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We're having a good time.
On Friday the thirteenth. We bring in one of the
really talented young writers who is doing good work every
single day at the website that I sold to Fox
last year, almost a year to this day, OutKick dot com.
I'd encourage you to add it to your repertoire places
that you go visit if you're looking for sanity in
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an insane world. But Bobby, I want to start with this.
It's Friday the thirteenth. You haven't been prepped on this.
Is there a scary movie that, to you is the
greatest of all scary movies. Like, if you had to
watch a scary movie tonight, which one would you pick?
And why? So the answer has to be the Shining Clay, right,
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because out of all the goofy characters that we've seen
in horror movies, nobody's been more authentically terrifying than a
crazy Jack Nicholson that stuck in that lodge all winter.
So to me, when he's chasing after his family with
the acts and stuff, you turn all the light stuff,
nothing's more terrifying than that. And I say that as
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someone that saw Conjuring opening night in the theaters at
all the school. Oh yeah, what everybody? When everybody started
clapping when they heard those voices in the basement, that
was unbelievable. By the way, we're gonna open up phone
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what people should watch tonight, given the fact it's probably
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the thirteenth, you can look at the phone lines. We'll
take some of your calls throughout the course of the
remainder of the show on that topic. All right, Bobby,
you do fantastic work for us at OutKick and I
couldn't believe that the NBA did this. We talk a
lot at OutKick about the degree to which sports has
turned into basically woke sports. It's taken over the universe
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of regular sports fans and they constantly are lecturing us.
And the worst in terms of lecture, I think, I
think you'd probably agree is the NBA. And so the
NBA pulled their All Star game. We got a lot
of people listening in North Carolina out of Charlotte over
a transgender bathroom bill. And then they end up now
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going to the United Arab Emirates, which if you are
gay you can be put to death there, and it
feels like OutKick and to a certain extent, Fox News,
which builds on a lot of outkicks work, are some
of the only outlets even discussing this. How crazy is
the hypocrisy? Yeah, and there's no other league that gets
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protected by the sports media like the NBA is. I mean,
this is it going on for years right now? The
fear that broadcasters from an ESPAD and the Ringer and
CBS and the New York Times have we calling out
the NBA is really second to none. And what I
find so fascinating about this is Clay. The NBA just
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turned the corner for the first time in four years
by moving out of politics, by focusing on the games,
and what do you know, their reaching near record high's
highest opening first round since twenty fourteen and first become
a context. The MBA ratings plummeted to all time lows
when they really embraced the quote unquote racial record in
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the country. They put Black Lives Matter across the court.
I mean, the MBA lost almost forty eight percent of
their audience when they embrace social justice messaging, and it
took them three years to get it back. So all
of a sudden, they're just now focusing back on the
games and people love it. Now they make a statement
like this, they're in jetuty I think again of losing
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some of their more moderate political audience, which is just
insane business decision now. Also, Phil Mickelson got destroyed to
such an extent. Golfer out there, who a lot of
people listening to us right now play golf. I know.
Phil Mickelson got destroyed for negotiating with Saudi Arabia about
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a new golf league effectively and he didn't even agree
to it, he certainly didn't sign on to do it.
Yet the NBA criticism is minor relatively speaking. How can
you justify Phil Mickelson getting crushed like he did for
negotiating with Saudi Arabia compared to the NBA getting a
pass with the United Arab Emirates, Well you can. That
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just goes back to that first point about how the
media protects the NBA, particularly the sports media claim you know,
you and I are some of the only people that
have really called out Lebron James hypocrisy and some of
the other NBA players right away. Every time we do this,
somebody from like The Athletic or The Atlantic comes after
us saying, oh, well, you guys don't like because the
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NBA player stuck out for you know, black riots and
racial injustice and all that stuff. You get none of
that when you criticize Phil Mickelson. So it doesn't surprise
me that top shows like Pardon Interruption will lead an
entire day condemning Phil Mickelson for thinking about going to
Saudi Arabia. Not mentioned this because there's no pushback by
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going after Phil Nicholson, an old white male golfer, but
going after some of these NBA players who are so
active and popular on Twitter, that comes with another degree
of backlash at quite frankly, most journalists and TV anchors
don't have the backbone to withstand. Speaking of journalists and
TV anchors, ESPN, I still think this is shocking. And
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we're talking, by the way, with Bobby Barak. He does
fantastic work at OutKick. Encourage you to go checkout OutKick
dot com to read a lot of what he is
doing on a day to day basis. ESPN stopped programming
in March during the NCAA Women's basketball tournament. I think
a lot of people out there listening right now may
not even know this to criticize the Florida Parents Rights Bill,
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which kindergarten, first grade, second grade, and third graders are
not going to be taught about sex related issues. Again,
ESPN on their programming stopped and had a moment of silence.
L Duncan I believe is who was hosting this achelous charade.
Yet they're not going to even say a word about
the NBA going to the UAE. They claim that they
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cared about gay people, but as we just said, gay
people can be put to death in the UAE. Same
thing for the Atlanta Hawks and Milwaukee Bucks, who also
have had walkout situations. What in the world is going
on here that ESPN can have this woke stance as
it pertains to the state of Florida for a bill
that frankly, a lot of their people aren't even smart
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enough to understand why they sounded like such idiots for
this protest, and yet they're not going to be saying
a word about the UAE or the NBA's relationship there. Yes,
l Dumpkin like You Said, goes on air during a
college basketball tournament says it's so unfair to the LGBT
community that these teachers won't let the kids say gay,
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which obviously is not true. There's nothing in the bill
that bands you from using the word gay. That's not
what it does. It basically tells teachers, you know, don't
talk about sex change and transgenderism with third graders and younger.
So she doesn't even know what the bill says, but
she interrupts a game to spread that talking point, saying
this is an attack on the LGBT community. Then she
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goes on Twitter a little after saying, well, I have
friends that are LGBT. So it's my job to use
my large platform to stand out for them and protect them. Yet,
like you said, the NBA, the league that she claims
to be her favorite, is now partner up with a
country that if you're gay, they're allowed to punish you
by debt. More Overclay L. Duncan is frequently interacting with
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Joy Read on Twitter, who posted a bunch of homophobic
posts on her blogs a couple of years ago. So
L Duncan brands herself as the gay rights activist at ESPN,
Yet she's talking with joy Read and not saying a
word about the NBA to deal with the country that
can kill you for being gay. So to me, there's
no bigger fraud at ESPN than her. There's a lot
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of people on that list. I consider her right now.
I think she's in a league of her own. She's
a clown and she's a hypocrite, and frankly, I'm not
even sure she's smart enough to understand how much of
a clown and a hypocrite she is. But it's part
of the larger network environment that ESPN has created, created
Bobby for people who may not be super plugged in
in the world of sports. How left wing is the
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sports media that covers sports? Because we talk a lot
about the left wing bias in politics from MSNBC and
Washington Post and the New York Times and CNN and
all these outlets that everybody immediately recognizes and acknowledges has
that left wing bias. A lot of times, the ESPN's
of the world slide under the radar, and the extreme
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left wing bias of the sports media outside of places
like OutKick almost doesn't even get called out at all. Right,
is anybody more qualified to talk about this than you
and I? Because I don't think anybody on a daily
basis delves into bolts the political media landscape in the
sports media landscape like we do. And yet there is
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a perspective of news media leans left, which it absolutely does,
but the sports media leans in that direction so much
further because here's the thing. The reason what sports media
is that most of the people are sort of bitter
and they feel like they need to prove what side
they around. You see, so many people just never miss
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an opportunity to call somebody racist for something that's not
a racist. At least in the news media, you have
alternative outlift that can push back on that prominent outlift
and too OutKick, there was nobody in the sports media
space that could even get a moderate opinion just to
push back and say, wait a minute, what you're saying
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is not factual. That all these sports anchors saying that
this bill prohibits the word of gay. If there wasn't
an OutKick, there would not be a single website that
covers sports that would have said that. So I think
the biggest thing is there is less of a voice
in alternative sports media then there is news meeting, And
I find that so unfortunate because I go to a
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sports bar or go to a sports game, and I
think so many people are just so set up with
what's going on, but their voices are not a representative
representative because so much of the sports conversation for so
long has been dictated by ESPN, The Washington Post, NBC Sports,
all of which lean probably as far left as CNN
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in an ESPN's case, as far left as MSNBC. I
don't think there's any doubt if you enjoy this conversation
and you want to have a little bit of sanity
in your sports life, I'd encourage you to check out
Bobby Barak. Also checkout OutKick dot com Bobby by the way,
data also out there. Major League Baseball pulled the All
Star Game out of Georgia because they said that it
was Jim Crow two point zero. So the voting has
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surged in Georgia. Another lie, another thing that sports got wrong. Yeah,
I think my favorite one is actually I think when
Biden called it Jim Crow on steroid, Jim Crow two
point oh, it's pretty good, but Hi Crow on steroids
even better. Yeah, this is just another example of sort
of these sports companies and major corporations acting irrationally out
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of fear. So what happened here? As MLB Commissioner Rob Manford,
he saw the push to say that Georgia's bills were
bombs holding black people back as an example of voter suppression,
so he felt he needed to make a statement to
show everybody, well, he's not a racist. You can't call
me a racist. I pulled the All Star Game out
of Atlanta, But as you say, it didn't suppress any
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of votes. Voting is up double since twenty eighteen. And moreover,
what ended up happening. He took the All Star Game
to Colorado, which arguably has more stringent voting laws than Georgia.
And in the meantime, he ended up just taking money
away from black owned businesses in Atlanta. So what did
he accomplish? Nothing? Thankfully, the Braves won the World Series
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and got to host three World Series games instead. Bobby,
keep up the good work. Appreciate it, my man Clay,
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Paul here in a moment at the top of the
next hour to discuss his decision to withhold support for
the forty billion dollars that America was going to provide
an aid to Ukraine. But I was reading this morning
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getting ready for the show, and I read this, and
we're covering it at OutKick as well, and you can
go read about it up at OutKick dot com. But
depending so Netflix. Obviously, we talked and discussed a lot
on this program about the way that Netflix had to
deal with the fallout from Dave Chappelle's show comedy special
(33:00):
that had transgender jokes in it. By the way, he
made fun of everybody, but the transgender community has been
very angry at Dave Chappelle for the jokes that he
has made at their expense, and so there was a
walk out, there was a protest to Netflix credit they
did not pull down anything for Dave Chappelle, and Dave
Chappelle got attacked on the stage last week. I think
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it was in La by a crazy loon who should
have been charged with a felony, by the way, but
instead got charged with a misdemeanor, because it's almost impossible
to get charged with a felony in Los Angeles these days.
But Netflix sent out a memo to all of its
employees letting them know that, effectively, if you don't like
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working at Netflix because of some of the content were creating,
maybe you should quit, which bravo. Maybe it took Netflix
stock driving dropping down by seventy percent. But I'm reading
directly from the memo, which is titled Netflix Culture Seeking Excellence,
and it says as employees, we support the principle that
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Netflix offers a diversity of stories, even if we find
some titles counter to our own personal values. Depend I'm
reading directly from this memo. Depending on your role, you
may need to work on titles you perceived to be harmful.
If you'd find it hard to support our content breadth,
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Netflix may not be the best place for you. Hey,
I'm not defending everything that Netflix does, because certainly they've
been far too woke for my personal opinion often, but
finally telling these woke trojan horse diversity and inclusion employees
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that want to try to tear down the companies from
the inside, we may not be the right place for you.
Go somew or else, Amen, And I hope other companies
start to do the exact same as what we just
saw from Netflix in that memo. Now, a bunch of
people wanting to to dive in and react on Friday
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the thirteenth to scary movies that might possibly be out there,
and I will dive in here. Who is up first?
Let's see, I've got the list in front of me,
and I'm gonna go with Larry and Independence Missouri. Larry,
what's the scariest movie ever made, the Event Horizon, Event Horizon.
(35:34):
I don't even remember Event Horizon. What happens in Event Horizon.
It's a ship, spaceship that had disappeared for years, subtly discovered,
and I've watched that it's haunted. Yes, Yes, that was scary. Yeah,
that's well done. I appreciate the call. It's Friday the thirteenth,
by the way, if you're wondering opening up phone lines
having some fun, scariest movie ever made? If you had
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to only watch one movie tonight to celebrate Friday the thirteenth,
what would you watch, Joe in Cleveland, Ohio? What movie
you got? I would watch The Exorcist. I thought that
was the scariest movie that was Exercist. Thank you for
the call. The Exorcist is a terrifying movie. Remember last Friday,
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both Buck and Mind Moms were on and Buck's mom
auditioned for the role of one of the kids on
The Exorcist. Buck, by the way, is in Chicago today.
He will be back on Monday. I hope he's having
a fantastic time there. When we come back top of
the next hour, we're going to be joined by Senator
Rand Paul of Kentucky. Why did he decide not to
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support yet at least the forty billion dollars in aid
that we are going to send to Ukraine. We will
be discussing that with him. Will continue to take your
calls as well. Open Line Friday, eight hundred two eight
two two eight eight two. By the way, I would say,
in general, the Conjuring movies scariest series of movies ever made.
If you haven't seen those, check him out. Final Hour
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of the Week next, Rand Paul play, Travis and Buck
Sexton on the front lines of truths.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Friday edition,
Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. Buck is in Chicago out today. He
will be back on Monday. I am piloting the filing
the plane here solo, and we're gonna be joined. I
(00:22):
think now we got a couple of guests coming up.
Alex Berenson is with us. He used to be on Twitter,
he now is banned there. We talked about some of
the drama surrounding Elon musk potential acquisition of Twitter in
the first hour of the show. But Alex, first of all,
thanks for coming on. Second, I saw something that I
my jaw dropped, and I mentioned it to close the
first hour. CNN wrote an article acknowledging that many of
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the people dying with COVID now have received both of
the COVID shots initial COVID shots. In fact that they
said almost half of the people dying with COVID in
January were double vaccinated for COVID. I don't know if
you read that article, but I imagine that the fact
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that CNN is now writing this is just further validation
and vindication for the surrounding COVID vaccine story. Yes, I mean,
you know, people are starting to admit this and honestly
that those numbers are only going up. You know, I
have data that I'm going to put out on my
stub stack very soon. You know. One of the things
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that's happening, by the way, is that because the data
is looking worse and worse for the vaccines, more jurisdictions,
more states and countries are starting to not report it.
They're starting to not report these sort of weekly or
monthly numbers. I mean, in the US the data has
always been kind of scatter shut. But even in place
like the UK, they stopped reporting it. But there are
(01:50):
still places that are reporting it. And for example, in
in British Columbia, where there's very sort of up to
date data, almost everyone who died has been vaccinated and
boosted in the last month. I'm talking about not January,
but in the last month, um, fewer than ten percent
of the people who died were unvaccinated. So the vaccine Yeah, yeah,
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and I'm gonna it's it's amazing actually, um. And so
the vaccine efficacy looks like it's pretty close to zero
right now against infection and against serious outcomes form. You know, listen,
the vaccines were always not what they were cracked up
to be, but Amacon appears to have made them basically useful.
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So if the vaccines are truly basically useless, what does
that tell us about where we are headed in the
summer and the fall of twenty twenty two? From your perspective, Yeah,
you know, that's that's a really good question, and I'm
not I'm not going to try to duck it. I
don't think we know because it depends on two crucial things.
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One is, are we going to get another variant that's
worse than amacon? Isn't isn't that dangerous? Right? It is?
It is very virulent, but it isn't. I mean, I'm sorry,
it is very contagious, but it isn't that virent. So
you see these numbers showing that that you know a
huge number of children, for example, have antibodies. Now is
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the CDC data that's right? So are do those kids
have protection? Now? What about adults? Do we have protection?
And knowing that question is also very complicated because for
people who weren't vaccinated, you probably have pretty good post
infection protection, but the vaccinations may actually hamper that process. Um,
(03:38):
you have fewer anti n antibodies, which is a which
is a different part of the virus actually, and not
having those may hurt you going forward. So so so
that that's a question we don't know. And then the
other question we don't know, which is potentially even more important,
is how bad is the next thing going to be?
Will it be like Amicon or will it be you know,
more like Delta where it is actually somewhat more dangerous
(04:00):
to people. So and I don't think anybody can know
that either. Um, what I would here's the two points
that I would make that I can say with certain.
One is the people who should be doing the research
about this are very incentivized not to do it right
because it all comes down to the same question, which
is how badly have the vaccines sailed us? And that
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is a question that they don't want to answer. So
so unless things get really bad, which you can sort
of expect, is the data is just gonna you know,
the data spigot is slowly going to turn off, and
so the same you know, and the second question is like,
why can't we have an honest I mean it's related,
but why can't we have an honest conversation about this?
And again, the answer is the same, because an honest
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conversation would acknowledge that the vaccines basically have sailed. But
you're but here's the thing, but you're seeing the reality
of this in that almost nobody is getting a second
boost or a force shot. You're seeing the reality in
the idea of vaccine mandates for kids is just completely
off the table. So this is and by the way,
the stock prices, you know, especially of Maderna, which is
(05:07):
sort of the surest vaccine company, I mean these companies.
Maderna a couple days ago was near it was at
a one year low. So people and you're seeing you're
seeing hundreds of millions of vaccine does in cold storage
in the United States. People just are not getting vaccinated
right now. So Johnson and john we're talking to Alex Berenson,
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who has been one of the foremost purveyors of what
I would say is truth surrounding this COVID disinformation brigade.
Johnson and Johnson essentially pulled the FDA, essentially pulled the
Johnson and Johnson vaccine. That was the one shot version
that tens of millions of people got. Yes, that is
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that totally reflected in the data, that the J and
J is worse than Maderna or Fizer or is this
like a finger in the damn to acknowledge the J
and J issue us while pretending that Maderna Advisor there
are no issues. UM, I think it's the latter. Uh,
there's there's no evidence that J and J is broadly
more dangerous than Maderna or Visor. And in fact, as
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as a data scientists pointed out a few days ago,
and this was an amazing thing. If you look at
the uh, the data from the clinical trials, right, which
is the best data. It's the only clean data we have. UM.
And unfortunately, you know, the clinical trials were cut short
last year when when the companies gave everybody in the
(06:35):
placebo arm the vaccines. We don't have clean clinical trial anymore.
But if you go back and you look at the
initial cut of data that was clean, there was no UM,
there was no advantage in all cause mortality on the
vaccine side in the Maderna and Visor trials. So now
if you got the Maderna vaccine. If or if you
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got the FISA vaccine, you were just as likely to
die of anything of a heart attack or COVID or
a car accident or anything else as if you got
a placebo. That was not true of Jane Jay or
the Astrosennica vaccine, which works like the James J vaccine.
In those there was actually a notable advantage for people
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who got the vaccine, and there was a vaccine actually
seemed to protect people from dying broadly, which is what
you would hope a vaccine would do. Now, we don't
know what that really means. We don't know why that
might have been. It might have been a statistical anomaly,
it might have been we don't know. Okay, But but
when you when you when you hear that, when you
hear hey, the vaccine actually seemed to be protective for
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Jay and Ja, but not for you know, not in
the Astros say not in the Maderna or Finder travels.
You said yourself, why would they pull up to Jane
j vaccine and let the others continue? I don't know it.
So how would the media be covering as we approach
a million deaths with COVID, which is its own story.
And I keep saying with COVID because obviously many of
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these people dying have a variety of comorbidities and may
have died otherwise. And we're now in three years worth
of taling all these numbers. If Donald Trump had one
reelection in twenty twenty and we're still in office and
everything else is the exact same in terms of the
COVID shots that are being delivered Johnson and Johnson being
pulled by the FDA, how would the media be covering,
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in your opinion, these COVID shots if Trump were in
office compared to Biden. You know, that is a great question.
I think you would. You would be hearing rush trials.
You would be hearing the vaccines did not work as promised.
You would be hearing we've spent you know, billions and
billions of dollars on vaccines that look like they will
never be used. You would be hearing, you know, there's
(08:49):
a promise that these would be updated quickly against new variants,
and that didn't work. You'd been hearing we don't know
what the long term effects on immunity are, because you know,
we see that people don't seem to be developing broad
immunity afterwards, you'd be hearing, why are there's so many reinfections?
You'd been hearing, why is it now that every time
somebody gets a fourth dose, they you know, they immediately
(09:11):
seem to come down with amicron. I mean, I think
the perspective, you're hearing everything, and I'm asking, Okay, yeah,
everyport right, right. I would not be the only reporter
in the media would use the COVID shots as a
proxy to attack Donald Trump if he were still in
office and everything else were the exact same. Instead, the
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media uses the COVID shots as a proxy to support people,
to attack people who supported Donald Trump, right, who may
be choosing not to get the COVID shot. It's really
remarkable to think about, and I think it's important to
to bring that to light. Okay, yeah, other, Yeah, the
other thing I'm really curious. Yeah, you would hear, you
would hear most of all you said it. Actually, you'd hear,
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why is it that we're in year three of this
and there's been a million deaths with slash from COVID.
Why if we had more deaths post vaccines than pre
That's what you'd be hearing. Yeah, And frankly, nobody's blaming
Joe Biden for a million COVID deaths. Everybody blamed Donald
Trump for a couple of hundred thousand COVID deaths, and
now we've had hundreds of thousands of more, and nobody's like, oh,
(10:16):
this is Joe Biden's fault. They tried to hang that
on Trump to cost him the twenty twenty election. Now,
China is still staying committed alex to the COVID zero policy,
and their COVID zero policy has obviously led to draconian
lockdowns in Shanghai. There's been fears about what might happen
in Beijing. How tenable is this COVID zero policy of
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Chairman Z in China and where in the world is
that heading so far as you can tell, I mean,
that's a great question. You know, a month ago, I
would have said it's impossible. You know, the acons just
too you know, it's too contagious. They appear to be
able to knock it down in these you know, in
short term, you know, with this draconium lockdowns, I mean
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cases have gone down. You have not seen this, assuming
they're being honest about the numbers, which is always a
caveat I think we have to toss out right, But
it's you know, if they're not, then why would they
have announced what had happened in Shanghai to begin with.
So yeah, right, it's it's weird, Like I mean, I
think it's a terrible strategy. Obviously, it's a terrible strategy
in general. It's certainly terrible strategy as Amicron, which is
(11:20):
less dangerous. And at some point, unless you're gonna live
like this forever, you're gonna you're gonna have to, you know,
take the you know, take the restrictions off and let
people get this and live with it. But but they don't. Look,
I have no idea what because they're the mind of
a dictator. I have no idea why, you know, Vladimir
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Putin decided to invade Ukraine. I have no idea why
they're doing what they're doing. But they do appear committed
to it. And I have to say that what happened
in Shanghai actually it's likely to just reinforce that because
they did knock it down. What else should Well, let
me ask you this before I'll close with a COVID question.
And I'm curious. Elon Musk came out and said he
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thinks Donald Trump should be allowed back on Twitter. I
would presume that that would work well for your likelihood
of being allowed back on Twitter as well. Have you
gotten any indications, and I know there's a lot of
still turmoil about whether Elon Musk will buy Twitter effectively
and the stock prices is jockeying a lot today. Have
you gotten any indication that you would be allowed back
(12:23):
on Twitter and an Elon must owned company. No, I
have not, and I have not. You know, he has
not contacted me. You know, I've sued Twitter, and my
lawsuit is proceeding, you know, my lawsuit to survive as
the motion to dismiss, which is something not a lot
of people know because the media has essentially blacked it out.
I mean, the mainstream media has refused to report on
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the fact that you know, Trump versus Twitter got dismissed,
but parents and versus Twitter did not. And so I'm
going to get discovery that's going to allow me to
understand how Twitter, you know, worked with or didn't work
with the government. Yeah, to stand me and so so
I mean, I'm very excited to know, you know, to
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have that chance, and I don't know what the discovery
will say. That's what it's called discovery. But we'll find out.
So I mean, from from my point of where, there
isn't even bigger issue here, which is that my free
speech rights should not be dependent on Elon musk Okay,
even if he's and you know, Tesla does a lot
of business in China, you know Elon. Look, let's let's
(13:27):
assume the best for Elon. Let's assume that he actually
means everything he says about free speech. It doesn't matter.
That's my right as an American. And you know California
law of the California Constitution. There's lots of reasons that
I should be allowed to speak freely on this incredibly
important platform. And that's what I'm fighting for. And you know,
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this lawsuit is moving forward and we'll see what happens. Okay,
you mentioned the data that you're going to share at
your sub stack, which I would encourage people to subscribe
and or read. You can read Alex Barns in there.
What else do you think people should know about the
latest in data and or discussion as it pertains to
COVID right now? I just think I mean the number
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one thing is this idea that the vaccines really are
you know they have they are demonstrating zero efficacy, certainly
zero efficacy against infection and transmission, if anything, negative efficacy.
And you know, I mean, I don't think anybody who
listens to you is lining up at this point for
a booster or a second booster. But I don't know
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why anybody would do that. And so you know that
that's I think where we are it hasn't changed that much.
We will see what happens this summer in the Southern States,
if there's another Southern sturge, and what that looks like.
And by the way, just to continue to reiterate, you've
got young kids. I've got young kids. We haven't gotten
them COVID shots. It would be crazy in your opinion,
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based on the data that you look at, to be
getting young kids COVID shots, particularly because five percent of
them have already had it. Crazy it is, and that
is a rate point. And you know there's a if
you go on lefty Twitter epithemiology, you know Twitter, you
see these people. You know, we can't wait for the
FDA to you know, to approve the shots for people
for kids under five. Look even If that happens, I
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can tell you it's going to be like five or
ten percent of the country that does that. Now, they're
going to be all the people you know who work
for the New York Times, you know, so you'll hear
about it. But don't keep yourself, you know, don't be fooled.
Like no one is getting their young children's vaccinated against
there's nobody with any sense as well. They shouldn't Alex Berenson,
We appreciate the time. Go check out the substack for Alex.
He does phenomenal work there. We'll talk to you again soon.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show how great
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much government interaction there may have been with top official
that Twitter to get Alex Barnson band is going to
be incredibly illuminating, I think, to demonstrating just how much
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coordination to try to silence dissent existed in the early
days of the Joe Biden White House and continues to
this day. But again, I just want all of you
to be thinking, what would the media be saying if
Donald Trump were still in office and everything else was
the exact same with COVID. Think about how much Donald
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Trump got blamed for everyone who died with COVID in
the presidential run up. Remember, Joe Biden said any president
that was in office when two hundred and twenty thousand
people died didn't deserve to stay in office. He said
that in the debate. Well, Joe Biden is now in
office and over a million people have died with COVID.
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in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We're having a good time.
On Friday the thirteenth. We bring in one of the
really talented young writers who is doing good work every
single day at the website that I sold to Fox
last year, almost a year to this day, OutKick dot com.
I'd encourage you to add it to your repertoire places
that you go visit if you're looking for sanity in
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an insane world. But Bobby, I want to start with this.
It's Friday the thirteenth. You haven't been prepped on this.
Is there a scary movie that, to you is the
greatest of all scary movies. Like, if you had to
watch a scary movie tonight, which one would you pick?
And why? So the answer has to be the Shining Clay, right,
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because out of all the goofy characters that we've seen
in horror movies, nobody's been more authentically terrifying than a
crazy Jack Nicholson that stuck in that lodge all winter.
So to me, when he's chasing after his family with
the acts and stuff, you turn all the light stuff,
nothing's more terrifying than that. And I say that as
(20:04):
someone that saw Conjuring opening night in the theaters at
all the school. Oh yeah, what everybody? When everybody started
clapping when they heard those voices in the basement, that
was unbelievable. By the way, we're gonna open up phone
lines in the third hour eight hundred two eight two
two eight eight two. But if you are a huge
horror movie fan and you want to weigh in with
what people should watch tonight, given the fact it's probably
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the thirteenth, you can look at the phone lines. We'll
take some of your calls throughout the course of the
remainder of the show on that topic. All right, Bobby,
you do fantastic work for us at OutKick and I
couldn't believe that the NBA did this. We talk a
lot at OutKick about the degree to which sports has
turned into basically woke sports. It's taken over the universe
(20:49):
of regular sports fans and they constantly are lecturing us.
And the worst in terms of lecture, I think, I
think you'd probably agree is the NBA. And so the
NBA pulled their All Star game. We got a lot
of people listening in North Carolina out of Charlotte over
a transgender bathroom bill. And then they end up now
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going to the United Arab Emirates, which if you are
gay you can be put to death there, and it
feels like OutKick and to a certain extent, Fox News,
which builds on a lot of outkicks work, are some
of the only outlets even discussing this. How crazy is
the hypocrisy? Yeah, and there's no other league that gets
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protected by the sports media like the NBA is. I mean,
this is it going on for years right now? The
fear that broadcasters from an ESPAD and the Ringer and
CBS and the New York Times have we calling out
the NBA is really second to none. And what I
find so fascinating about this is Clay. The NBA just
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turned the corner for the first time in four years
by moving out of politics, by focusing on the games,
and what do you know, their reaching near record high's
highest opening first round since twenty fourteen and first become
a context. The MBA ratings plummeted to all time lows
when they really embraced the quote unquote racial record in
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the country. They put Black Lives Matter across the court.
I mean, the MBA lost almost forty eight percent of
their audience when they embrace social justice messaging, and it
took them three years to get it back. So all
of a sudden, they're just now focusing back on the
games and people love it. Now they make a statement
like this, they're in jetuty I think again of losing
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some of their more moderate political audience, which is just
insane business decision now. Also, Phil Mickelson got destroyed to
such an extent. Golfer out there, who a lot of
people listening to us right now play golf. I know.
Phil Mickelson got destroyed for negotiating with Saudi Arabia about
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a new golf league effectively and he didn't even agree
to it, he certainly didn't sign on to do it.
Yet the NBA criticism is minor relatively speaking. How can
you justify Phil Mickelson getting crushed like he did for
negotiating with Saudi Arabia compared to the NBA getting a
pass with the United Arab Emirates, Well you can. That
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just goes back to that first point about how the
media protects the NBA, particularly the sports media claim you know,
you and I are some of the only people that
have really called out Lebron James hypocrisy and some of
the other NBA players right away. Every time we do this,
somebody from like The Athletic or The Atlantic comes after
us saying, oh, well, you guys don't like because the
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NBA player stuck out for you know, black riots and
racial injustice and all that stuff. You get none of
that when you criticize Phil Mickelson. So it doesn't surprise
me that top shows like Pardon Interruption will lead an
entire day condemning Phil Mickelson for thinking about going to
Saudi Arabia. Not mentioned this because there's no pushback by
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going after Phil Nicholson, an old white male golfer, but
going after some of these NBA players who are so
active and popular on Twitter, that comes with another degree
of backlash at quite frankly, most journalists and TV anchors
don't have the backbone to withstand. Speaking of journalists and
TV anchors, ESPN, I still think this is shocking. And
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we're talking, by the way, with Bobby Barak. He does
fantastic work at OutKick. Encourage you to go checkout OutKick
dot com to read a lot of what he is
doing on a day to day basis. ESPN stopped programming
in March during the NCAA Women's basketball tournament. I think
a lot of people out there listening right now may
not even know this to criticize the Florida Parents Rights Bill,
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which kindergarten, first grade, second grade, and third graders are
not going to be taught about sex related issues. Again,
ESPN on their programming stopped and had a moment of silence.
L Duncan I believe is who was hosting this achelous charade.
Yet they're not going to even say a word about
the NBA going to the UAE. They claim that they
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cared about gay people, but as we just said, gay
people can be put to death in the UAE. Same
thing for the Atlanta Hawks and Milwaukee Bucks, who also
have had walkout situations. What in the world is going
on here that ESPN can have this woke stance as
it pertains to the state of Florida for a bill
that frankly, a lot of their people aren't even smart
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enough to understand why they sounded like such idiots for
this protest, and yet they're not going to be saying
a word about the UAE or the NBA's relationship there. Yes,
l Dumpkin like You Said, goes on air during a
college basketball tournament says it's so unfair to the LGBT
community that these teachers won't let the kids say gay,
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which obviously is not true. There's nothing in the bill
that bands you from using the word gay. That's not
what it does. It basically tells teachers, you know, don't
talk about sex change and transgenderism with third graders and younger.
So she doesn't even know what the bill says, but
she interrupts a game to spread that talking point, saying
this is an attack on the LGBT community. Then she
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goes on Twitter a little after saying, well, I have
friends that are LGBT. So it's my job to use
my large platform to stand out for them and protect them. Yet,
like you said, the NBA, the league that she claims
to be her favorite, is now partner up with a
country that if you're gay, they're allowed to punish you
by debt. More Overclay L. Duncan is frequently interacting with
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Joy Read on Twitter, who posted a bunch of homophobic
posts on her blogs a couple of years ago. So
L Duncan brands herself as the gay rights activist at ESPN,
Yet she's talking with joy Read and not saying a
word about the NBA to deal with the country that
can kill you for being gay. So to me, there's
no bigger fraud at ESPN than her. There's a lot
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of people on that list. I consider her right now.
I think she's in a league of her own. She's
a clown and she's a hypocrite, and frankly, I'm not
even sure she's smart enough to understand how much of
a clown and a hypocrite she is. But it's part
of the larger network environment that ESPN has created, created
Bobby for people who may not be super plugged in
in the world of sports. How left wing is the
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sports media that covers sports? Because we talk a lot
about the left wing bias in politics from MSNBC and
Washington Post and the New York Times and CNN and
all these outlets that everybody immediately recognizes and acknowledges has
that left wing bias. A lot of times, the ESPN's
of the world slide under the radar, and the extreme
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left wing bias of the sports media outside of places
like OutKick almost doesn't even get called out at all. Right,
is anybody more qualified to talk about this than you
and I? Because I don't think anybody on a daily
basis delves into bolts the political media landscape in the
sports media landscape like we do. And yet there is
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a perspective of news media leans left, which it absolutely does,
but the sports media leans in that direction so much
further because here's the thing. The reason what sports media
is that most of the people are sort of bitter
and they feel like they need to prove what side
they around. You see, so many people just never miss
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an opportunity to call somebody racist for something that's not
a racist. At least in the news media, you have
alternative outlift that can push back on that prominent outlift
and too OutKick, there was nobody in the sports media
space that could even get a moderate opinion just to
push back and say, wait a minute, what you're saying
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is not factual. That all these sports anchors saying that
this bill prohibits the word of gay. If there wasn't
an OutKick, there would not be a single website that
covers sports that would have said that. So I think
the biggest thing is there is less of a voice
in alternative sports media then there is news meeting, And
I find that so unfortunate because I go to a
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sports bar or go to a sports game, and I
think so many people are just so set up with
what's going on, but their voices are not a representative
representative because so much of the sports conversation for so
long has been dictated by ESPN, The Washington Post, NBC Sports,
all of which lean probably as far left as CNN
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in an ESPN's case, as far left as MSNBC. I
don't think there's any doubt if you enjoy this conversation
and you want to have a little bit of sanity
in your sports life, I'd encourage you to check out
Bobby Barak. Also checkout OutKick dot com Bobby by the way,
data also out there. Major League Baseball pulled the All
Star Game out of Georgia because they said that it
was Jim Crow two point zero. So the voting has
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surged in Georgia. Another lie, another thing that sports got wrong. Yeah,
I think my favorite one is actually I think when
Biden called it Jim Crow on steroid, Jim Crow two
point oh, it's pretty good, but Hi Crow on steroids
even better. Yeah, this is just another example of sort
of these sports companies and major corporations acting irrationally out
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of fear. So what happened here? As MLB Commissioner Rob Manford,
he saw the push to say that Georgia's bills were
bombs holding black people back as an example of voter suppression,
so he felt he needed to make a statement to
show everybody, well, he's not a racist. You can't call
me a racist. I pulled the All Star Game out
of Atlanta, But as you say, it didn't suppress any
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of votes. Voting is up double since twenty eighteen. And moreover,
what ended up happening. He took the All Star Game
to Colorado, which arguably has more stringent voting laws than Georgia.
And in the meantime, he ended up just taking money
away from black owned businesses in Atlanta. So what did
he accomplish? Nothing? Thankfully, the Braves won the World Series
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and got to host three World Series games instead. Bobby,
keep up the good work. Appreciate it, my man Clay,
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Brack great, I think he's only like twenty four to
twenty five years old, does phenomenal work at OutKick. You
just heard from him. We're gonna hear from Senator Ran
Paul here in a moment at the top of the
next hour to discuss his decision to withhold support for
the forty billion dollars that America was going to provide
an aid to Ukraine. But I was reading this morning
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getting ready for the show, and I read this, and
we're covering it at OutKick as well, and you can
go read about it up at OutKick dot com. But
depending so Netflix. Obviously, we talked and discussed a lot
on this program about the way that Netflix had to
deal with the fallout from Dave Chappelle's show comedy special
(33:00):
that had transgender jokes in it. By the way, he
made fun of everybody, but the transgender community has been
very angry at Dave Chappelle for the jokes that he
has made at their expense, and so there was a
walk out, there was a protest to Netflix credit they
did not pull down anything for Dave Chappelle, and Dave
Chappelle got attacked on the stage last week. I think
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it was in La by a crazy loon who should
have been charged with a felony, by the way, but
instead got charged with a misdemeanor, because it's almost impossible
to get charged with a felony in Los Angeles these days.
But Netflix sent out a memo to all of its
employees letting them know that, effectively, if you don't like
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working at Netflix because of some of the content were creating,
maybe you should quit, which bravo. Maybe it took Netflix
stock driving dropping down by seventy percent. But I'm reading
directly from the memo, which is titled Netflix Culture Seeking Excellence,
and it says as employees, we support the principle that
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Netflix offers a diversity of stories, even if we find
some titles counter to our own personal values. Depend I'm
reading directly from this memo. Depending on your role, you
may need to work on titles you perceived to be harmful.
If you'd find it hard to support our content breadth,
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Netflix may not be the best place for you. Hey,
I'm not defending everything that Netflix does, because certainly they've
been far too woke for my personal opinion often, but
finally telling these woke trojan horse diversity and inclusion employees
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that want to try to tear down the companies from
the inside, we may not be the right place for you.
Go somew or else, Amen, And I hope other companies
start to do the exact same as what we just
saw from Netflix in that memo. Now, a bunch of
people wanting to to dive in and react on Friday
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the thirteenth to scary movies that might possibly be out there,
and I will dive in here. Who is up first?
Let's see, I've got the list in front of me,
and I'm gonna go with Larry and Independence Missouri. Larry,
what's the scariest movie ever made, the Event Horizon, Event Horizon.
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I don't even remember Event Horizon. What happens in Event Horizon.
It's a ship, spaceship that had disappeared for years, subtly discovered,
and I've watched that it's haunted. Yes, Yes, that was scary. Yeah,
that's well done. I appreciate the call. It's Friday the thirteenth,
by the way, if you're wondering opening up phone lines
having some fun, scariest movie ever made? If you had
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to only watch one movie tonight to celebrate Friday the thirteenth,
what would you watch, Joe in Cleveland, Ohio? What movie
you got? I would watch The Exorcist. I thought that
was the scariest movie that was Exercist. Thank you for
the call. The Exorcist is a terrifying movie. Remember last Friday,
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both Buck and Mind Moms were on and Buck's mom
auditioned for the role of one of the kids on
The Exorcist. Buck, by the way, is in Chicago today.
He will be back on Monday. I hope he's having
a fantastic time there. When we come back top of
the next hour, we're going to be joined by Senator
Rand Paul of Kentucky. Why did he decide not to
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support yet at least the forty billion dollars in aid
that we are going to send to Ukraine. We will
be discussing that with him. Will continue to take your
calls as well. Open Line Friday, eight hundred two eight
two two eight eight two. By the way, I would say,
in general, the Conjuring movies scariest series of movies ever made.
If you haven't seen those, check him out. Final Hour
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