June 4, 2025 • 47 mins
Wade Stotts breaks down the current state of the conservative movement—and why it’s time to get back to our roots. From the collapse of culture to the rise of MAGA, from faith to family to forgotten values, this conversation will challenge everything you think you know about the right.
Stotts delivers a masterclass in common sense, explaining why the Constitution is no longer enough, how storytelling can save our kids, and what it truly means to love your country in a post-truth world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you drowning in a sea of conservative ideas?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Today I welcome Wade Stots, who summarizes what conservativesm means
in a common sense approach. This is the David Rutherford Show.
Every so often, within the social consciousness, someone emerges that
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delivers such a profound sense of common sense that it
makes people stop and pay attention to what they're thinking
in their own minds, and they necessarily have an opportunity
through this explosion of It's not righteousness, but it's more
along the lines of just critical thinking in a way
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that gives strength to people's thoughts. Wade Stots is this guy.
I've found him last year and his videos really kind
of summarized the way I wanted to be able to
express myself, and so the opportunity when it presented itself,
I reached out to him on X and I said, hey, man,
(01:07):
I love what you do. Would you please come on?
He decided he would join us. So, ladies and gentlemen,
mister Wade Starts.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank you so much. Really appreciate you having me on. David.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Thank you. You know, as as I went through all
of your videos, I began to kind of come up
with an idea that I wanted to focus on today
and that was really centralized around conservative movements and to
get your impression of where we exist right now and
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how diversified have those movements become. We've seen lately there's
a battle between woke right and right. There's a battle
between the MAGA movement and neo cons There's a battle.
So just in your opinion, where what is the conservative
overall movement and what are all the little tributaries that
are taking place.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, I think it's it is a fascinating time to
be non left. I think that's where we are, and
a lot of the non left coalition is is seeing
a common enemy and recognizing, hey, we have to team
up with people we may not have thought we would
be teaming up with. And I think that that's a
good development, mainly because the left needs to be defeated,
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but I also it's it's it takes on something that
I think is a good development, which is that it's
a kind of conservatism or reaction that's not ideological, so
it's not hard, it's not bound to any particular like
everybody involved I think has high moral beliefs, but it's
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not the same thing as having an ideology, which which
I think Russell Kirk characterized as kind of a counterfeit religion,
sort of this set of principles that you hold on
to excuse me, no matter what, and no matter what
facts come at you, or whether you think that it's
working out or something. So in a similar way, I
think that a lot of people voted for Trump that
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weren't expecting to do so. And I think that that,
if anything, Trump has reorganized our politics to be yes personal,
which I think is a normal, good development, more personal,
less ideological, I think is a good development, and also
moving away from again this kind of pseudo religion of
I've got my list of the non aggression principle or
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whatever kind of thing I want to put in the
center of my world, and then organize all of my
strategy and thinking around. Again, I'm a Christian, so I
don't think that it's bad to have universal beliefs that
can't be touched. But that's not the same thing as
having political strategy beliefs or prudential concerns. And if you
look at most of the what conservatism or I know
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again I quoted Russell Kirk, and then use the word conservatism,
but like the.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Is the ism part of that I think can be
a problem.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But if you look at the past, if you look
at the traditional way that people have thought before, they
were okay with multiple kinds of solutions to things.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
They were okay with.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Saying well, this worked for a while and we needed
to change over here just because the circumstances changed again.
Somebody like Edmondburgh, somebody like Russell Kirk, Russell Kirk would
be okay with talking that way, whereas an ideological vision
of it or ideological conservatism trademark wouldn't be quite as
comfortable with different kinds of solutions.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I love that answer. And you did this. Really Two
of my favorites that you came up with was, you know,
you did one show about the Russian or the French
Revolution and that Russoian belief system that we can generate,
you know, our morality based on you know, these principles
of our own our own sovereignty, if you will, let's
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get rid of the confines of the church and the
confines of imperial rule and let's just figure it out
as we go. And then there was the other one
that really I thought kind of loosely affiliated with that
was the evolution of our constitutional republic. And I thought
that was fascinating, right, And as I was watching one
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that led into the other, it was like, Oh, I
think that kind of postmodernistic belief system is what's actually
kind of morphine our one ideals, and you describe it
as the nineteen fifties or the nineteen nineties right into
that now our fifth level of the constitutional republic. Can
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you explain what you meant a little bit to the
listeners and by those statements that you made.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, on the I'll start with a resou point, because
I think that's that leads us well into this. Rousseau
was this guy who essentially thought that, and he was
part of a movement that thought that if you sat
around in a chair long enough, then everybody would basically
come to the same political beliefs or come to the
same ideas about what the rights of man are or
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what good is and and what people should be doing
to each other, which is insane. So basically he was
he was sitting and going, well, I know, I can
cut off all of the supernatural elements. I can cut
off every kind of obligation that I might have to
a personal creator. And I can basically think, think long
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enough and then I'll be right. Everybody if they thought
long enough, would be right exactly like I am. Which
turns out that those those people tend to treat their
enemies pretty poorly because you're not you're not thinking very well.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
The Gilatine it was on overdrive, absolutely, and so it's
it's a different kind of way of thinking about politics,
way of thinking about man than the kind of thing
that gave birth to America.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
America is was a was an Anglo Protestant project initially,
and it's still at its core an Anglo Protestant thing.
Uh And and I think I mean Pappy Cannon talked
about this. Again, this is not just me coming up
with this stuff Samuel Hunt to others. But when you
look at that, what's happening is that this is a
development of English Protestantism, and so it has particular roots
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and recognizing the particular roots of something where the ideas
come from, where the habits come from, the way of
thinking that the way of operating all comes from somewhere.
And it's not again just people sitting around trying to
come up with the best ideology, trying to come up
with ideas in the sky that they can then impose
on reality. It was people who, again Anglo Protestant you
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believe in particular people, there are particular values that come
from their religion, and so they believe in universals. But
the political universals, the political things weren't the same kind
of universal.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They could be more flexible.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And so seeing the American Constitution as being something the
result of a particular people who were shaped by a
particular religion helps us to recognize what we've lost in
the course of all of this time.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So it's not just.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That, hey, we need to get closer to that documents.
It's that the people who formed that document and the
people for whom that document was formed have gone away
at some level, or at least have retreated. And again,
I still think that Anglo Protestantism is the core of America,
and I think that there are a lot of people
who basically, you know, think reality is real, you know,
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but they've been sort of bullied at some level into
not being able to.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Say what's true.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So again there's there's a vision of politics that's just
principles divorced from people, and you could there's a certain
kind of constitutionalism that is a similar sort of way.
We can we can treat the Constitution as an expression
again of these sort of ideas in the sky that
floated down.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That everybody should be governed by.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But you can you can see places where we've tried
to export that constitution to a place that doesn't have
our history and doesn't have the people who've been shaped
in that particular way, and it always fails every single
time we've.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Tried the nation build. We tried that.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, yes, so you can pass out pocket constitutions all
over across the world, and it doesn't It isn't going
to be embraced by the people in the same way
that it was by our original by our founders, because
it's just again, those people were shaped in a particular way,
and so as we look back on it now and
as we as we see I love the American constitutional order,
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I love the people that produced the Constitution, I love
the Constitution itself, and I think that again, I made
a video that had a pretty provocative title, which was
the Constitution is Dead.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That was one of my favorite ones. But I watched
that but three times.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
But at some level, it's just recognizing, hey, we've we've
done a lot of damage not only to the written Constitution,
but also the unwritten Constitution, the habits and the forms
of the people who made this thing. And the reason
that we're so far away from this that you mentioned this,
I think in a different context. But John Adams saying
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that we're the Constitution is made for moral and religious people.
It is not suitable for the government of any other
I believe that's the quote and so and so. At
some level, if we're not moral and religious people, then
the Constitution doesn't make sense to us anymore. No wonder
we're having such trouble obeying the Constitution. It's that the
people we are is not the people who made this uh,
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and I see that as a tragedy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'd love to get back to something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But again, it's it's a it's a way of recognizing
that there's a constitutionalism that can become an ideological vision
that is separated from the people, the values, the culture,
where where we're where we all the the baseline assumptions
that everybody has, and I think that that's that's undervalued
to our to our peril.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Excuse me, I couldn't agree more with you. I you know,
I think as as as I've spent you know, a
pretty significant amount of my time trying to understand culture
over the course of my years.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's like, you know, because I remember everybody was always
when I started, you know, teaching and training people, is like, oh,
we want to have the culture of the Navy seals.
And and I'm like, uh, all right, well here, come
in here, and I'm gonna have this boat filled with
ice water, and I'm gonna beat you down before you
go to your computer terminal, and I'm gonna scream at
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you and you know, and all this. And they're like, oh, wait,
that's not what we want, right right, we we we
want to we want to extrapolate the gains from you know,
the long term impacts of of that forging process without
the pain of the forging process itself. And and I
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think that's where we're at. And and and you always
are so eloquent by the way you describe it, and
I love by the way. I love the way you
put humor into it too. It It really makes it
so much more palatable for people if to have a
little satirical aspect of it. And I just think it's
brilliant the way you do that. As you begin to
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look at the movement, let's call let's take the Magnum
Maga movement for for instance, do you think that's kind
of what you're talking about emerging? Like it's it's this
core I these the foundational principles of what we all
still think is the representation of America right as we
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as we teach our kids and we go to ball
games and we you know, we go to PTA conferences
and you know, we we do community things like that's
still relevant. It's still this amorphous energy. That kind of trick,
you know, is always just lurking in the corners of
our municipalities. But now this Maga movement has emerged. Do
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you believe like that's that those original ideas from our
founders try to break through the suppression or the the
the what is it, the forced separation between the ideology
and the and the culture itself. Sorry for the interruption.
(13:17):
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Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh yeah, yeah. I think that back to the ideological point.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
At some level, the Trump mantra of making deals, you know,
being the guy who makes deals and solves problems. That's
an attractive proposition, which is again a way that people
aren't used to thinking or talking about politics. And that
means that Trump is okay with appealing to things that
came before the twentieth century. So when when Trump has
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somebody like Andrew Jackson on his wall, people don't even
know what that means. But at some level, he's also
appealing to Andrew Jackson's actions in office.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And so people who are not familiar with him or.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think that the twentieth century at some level functions
as this sort of brick wall that some people have
to even being able to think about what politics is,
so that if somebody can't go before that or even
to the early twentieth century, then I think, yeah, our
politics have basically been locked into the dialogue of the
twentieth century, which was the century of ideological conflict. I mean,
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it was the century of conflict between basically liberal democracy
and fascism and communism, and these isms kind of characterize
that century. But again, Trump, I think is okay with
again pulling things from the Alien Enemies Act, which is
way older than the twentieth century, and again talking about
Andrew Jackson talking about these are the people who he
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sees as his forebears and as his sort of ancestors
in the office. But that's not seen as accessible most
of the time. And so it's refreshing at some level
for people who are American history fanatics to have somebody
who appeals to something laws that are older laws and.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Habits that we've lost at some level.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
And I think that at some level the people who
are most concerned times. You see this with some Supreme
Court decisions, people who are obsessed most of the time
with doing something constitutionally or that sort of thing. Can't
get passed again, that wall of the twentieth century to
be able to see what came before, what were the intentions,
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and so as as much as you know, the America make.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
America Great Again slogan is a it can be.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It can be sort of this thing that you fill
your own meaning into, which is fine, you know that
that's how political slogans work. But recognizing, hey, this is
not just rewind to the nineteen eighties and that's okay,
and it's and it's and that's that would be impossible
anyway we tried it. As much as I love the
nineteen eighties and I love the nineteen nineties and the
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nineteen fifties for what they were, but yeah, the the
solutions that are on the table, the way we're talking
about things is as a country that has interests.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And so I think that this forgive me if I'm
going too long, but now it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The sort of post World War two way of thinking
about the world is that, well, World War Two happened
because of because Hitler thought that there was such.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
A thing as national interests.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And so anybody who talks about national interests must be
a bad guy. That's kind of a silly way of
thinking about World War Two, but that was the way
that it's been interpreted now. And so now we are
comfortable at least moving past that way of thinking and saying, no,
we are a nation and we do have interests, and
we understood that for a long time before. I think
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the twentieth century perverted that way of thinking, and so
now it's okay to reclaim and say, hey, our trade
should reflect the fact that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We have national interests.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Our defense policy should should reflect that, should reflect that
we're a country. So when we have somebody like one
of the reasons I loved the Zelensky Trump meeting is
that so good, Such a great moment. And the reason
one of the reasons it was so great is that
Zelensky had never talked to somebody an American leader who
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thought that America was a particular place with particular interests
and that those superseded in the American leader's mind the
interests of another country.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And so we're okay with making deals.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Hey, I'm happy to make a deal, but the deal
has to work out for us, has to look good
for us. And so again that's it's refreshing. It's why
people look at Trump and say, hey, he represents us
at some level. It is because he's okay with saying, hey,
we've had bad deals, I'm going to make a better deal.
And that's you see that non ideological function with bringing
on people who don't have people like RFK who Again,
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it's just it's a problem solving move. I see a problem,
I want to solve that problem. And so it's it's
coalition building, it's there's practical political reasons for it, but
it's also the same spirit of I see a big problem,
I want to fix it. And then if you if
somebody comes along and says, actually, the constitution says that
we have to have poisonous food and we have to
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have infinity and number of immigrants, then like, I'm not
interested in really arguing the constitutional point there, because at
some level it's just a matter of okay that whatever
the legal argument you have, I don't want us to
be overrun by uh, you know, tens of millions of immigrants.
And I also don't want our food to be poisonous.
So let's solve some problems and I think that's that's
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a good move Oh.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think it's it's reinvigorated, if not, I mean the
conservative movement, but it's reinvigorated American pride. Right. It's it's
like that. The essence of what drove Andrew Jackson right
is is that sensation. No, you know, we're we're gonna
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we're gonna head west and we're gonna you know, that
manifest destiny of of of yesterday year, right, We're gonna
reclaim our position of greatness. Yeah, I that that meeting.
I must have watched that interview fifty times. It was
so rewarding to me that finally, you know, somebody would
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would stand up for what we we we believe, including
you know the Five Mafia with with JD. Vance, which
is even more refreshing, right if Obviously, I think when
you evaluate and as I go back, you know to
the twentieth century, when I was going to school and
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growing up in the seventies, eighties, and nineties, you know,
I I there was a much different focus on the
educational system. There was a much greater focus. And I
just had this conversation recently dealing with trying to get
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my children to feel the intensity of my teammates who
have died in combat, or to feel the intensity of
my brothers who've killed themselves. Right, and it's like, hey, listen,
there's something more to just their name on a tombstone
in Arlington, Right, There's something more to it. And that
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something more I think as I evaluate day in and
day out their education, when they come home and I'd say,
let me see what you're studying. Let me tell me
what you're studying, what are you doing? We have these conversations.
I think a lot of that is missing. How do
you how do we get back to or what are
some what are some options for us to get back
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towards that gen z right now, because there seems to
be kind of a not an initiative, but a revival
in that sensation of American pride and that original core ideology.
What are some core things that you would recommend for
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young men, young women, or teachers or parents to introduce
their kids to or themselves to to reclaim that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, I think I think that a lot of it
is going to be the power of storytelling.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So the kind of people who CS Lewis talked about this.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
In goodness, I think it was The Abolition of Man,
where he talked about how an argument, a syllogism is
not going to be the thing that that sustains a
soldier in the third hour of a bombardment. Right, a
syllogism is not the thing that's going to hold them there.
But the sort of the most shallow sentimentalism for something
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like a nation or a flag, that's what's going to
do it. So the people who fight the most are
not motivated again by arguments, principles and sort of ideas
in the sky again their motive to buy a sentiment
and love for they look up at a flag and
they look at the guy next to him, and they go,
this is why I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean, I'm a.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I really like the Black Hawk Down. So I'm a big,
big fan of blackhock Down and what a great movie.
But the end of that is why don't you do it?
You do it for the guy next to you, And
so you can watch that movie. I think that what
that movie gets right is and I didn't serve And
so I'm watching these guys and learning from from what
they did, but or at least what's represented to me,
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and what it shows is, hey, there's a certain level
of you can talk about the conflict that they were
in right and say, hey, this was misguided or this
project was going to fail. In that kind of way,
you can look at it and Monday morning quarterback it.
But at some level there's real American love for America
and love for the American next to you that motivates
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those people. So I think storytelling is going to be
a big part of that. Part of it's going to
be historical and reading history or but I think also
the watching movies that will.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Show value of America.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I think again, I talked a bad about the twentieth
century earlier, so I want to may maybe talk maybe talk.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
A little bit positively about it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
There is plenty of really good storytelling that happened in
the twentieth century that did motivate the people who we
see as heroes. So the people who have given all
for the country were motivated at some level not just
by the symbolism of a flag, but what that symbolism,
what had fed into that. And so some of that's
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going to come from the movies that they watched. Some
of that's going to come from again the stories that
they were told. So what we have to do is
at some level reinvigorate the national memory and the national
imagination so that then those things travel at some level together.
So I think that's a piece of it, because again
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Lewis served in combat.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Lewis no c s.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Lewis knows, Hey, I wasn't sitting there on like I
couldn't draw on the chalkboard. Why why I was still
there or why I stayed where I was supposed to be.
But I was there, and it was loyalty, and it
was it was again a sentimentality at some level, which
you can you know, you can say, hey, that's not real,
that's not rational, but everybody knows that that's not true.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What are the things that motivate you most.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's not the things again that you can sketch out
on a blackboard. It's your family relationships, it's the it's
the things that really drive you. So that's that's the
the baseline familial aspect. And then the storytelling of hey,
we we love our country and that's not just not
just principles, it's the stories that we tell. And again
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I I I love watching old war movies. I love
watching old westerns and things like that, and I think
that really has those those things have motivated a generation
to do greater.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Things than I'm capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And so what I want to do is feed that
to my kids and also be that to myself and
recognize that's that's the thing that that gives you affection
and you know you can you can at some level.
You have to be the guy who goes to a
Fourth of July parade and like gets wells up with pride,
even if it is just the local bank. You know,
somebody from the local bank holding an American flag. You know,
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there's there's some something that and and you can't really
there's no like, there's no medical prescription that you can
give that turns that on right. And like if if
at some level you have to be the kind of person.
Uh and and this goes into the American identity thing
that I think we were going to talk about. Yeah,
if you can look at a statue of George Washington
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and say that's my people, that's who I come from
and be proud of coming from that kind of person
and being a part of the nation that he found it,
that's that's the kind that's identity stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's that's I'm going to fight stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
And that's that's the kind of thing that matters and
creates camaraderie. If we're bound together, not even not necessarily
even by the same stories, but by the same kinds
of stories.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Then I think we're gonna last a little bit longer.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
This is why I'm encouraged by things like The Top
Gun Maverick. You know, like it sounds silly, but it
sounds silly, but at some level, like in twenty twenty two,
everybody kind of needed a little bit of that. That
it was it was a nostalgia trip, not just for
this old movie that we all liked when we were
growing up, but it was also a vision of, Hey,
these are good people working hard to do the right thing.
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They have a mission, they focus on the mission, and
they and they care about how it goes because they
care about each other. And again that's that's a popcorn movie.
But like that that there's still something, there's still nerve
endings in the American body that light up when they
hit something like that, And I think that's good that
that and that that's the kind of thing that I
think will help us Celebrations like the uh, you know,
(27:55):
the anniversary coming up two hundred and fifteth Saled celebration.
That's huge, I think. But yeah, it's it's going to
be encouraging and encouraging at some level. The sentiment, the
sentimental uh part of identity. UH, that that will make
a big difference.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I agree, man, And I love how you always as
I mean, you're obviously a phenomenal storyteller. And I think
that's another thing. I'm I'm a sucker for great storytelling too. Man.
I just I just get trapped. And I was a
movie kid my whole life, right, And just the other
day I watched The Big Red One again with Lee
Marvin and he was one of my heroes as a kid,
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and it's such a beautiful movie about this small team
that goes from Northern Africa to Sicily to to to
uh France all the way through and it's just beautiful
story of this old sergeant who was in World War
One and finishes in World War Two. And you know,
(28:56):
and I was I was just thinking to myself, I
got that's what we need more of. We need, you know,
because I believe that the cultural foundations of America are
rooted in stories. It's the stories of escaping persecution from
England or from the Church, or you know, it's escaping persecution,
(29:17):
you know, famine from from Ireland. It's the Scottish leaving
and coming to the Appalachians and and founding there. And
you know, and I think those stories are are are
profound as you've you've said that, and I love how
you described the wiring in us, like those tentacles that
are just waiting for that emotion to hit us and
(29:38):
to light us up, in particular young people. What as
as AI emerges And do you think that you know,
in a greater capacity to tell stories by using ai AI.
The latest versions of all the different video software are insane.
(29:59):
Someone just put one out the other day that it
showed what the collapse of like the apocalypse, and they
created all the influencers online and how they would be
filming themselves in the in the in the apocalypse, and
it was brilliant. It was just so beautifully done, and
(30:20):
you know, as satirically done. How do you think, like,
do you foresee a real emergence of those kind of
stories of past coming out to really penetrate through the
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Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's it's tough mainly because obviously it's tough to predict anything.
But what we've seen with the AI at some level
is kind of a is marketing. The marketing around AI
is that it is a democratizing force. It's a thing
that allows anybody to do to fulfill their dreams and
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make something. The problem that I see with that is
that every time an industry has become democratized, that industry
at some level dies. And I don't take any joy
in saying that. I mean, like, it's what happened with music.
As soon as around the same time that everybody said, hey,
(32:20):
I can make a record in my bedroom. Is around
the time that yes, a few people jumped up to
the top of the charts and people got popular through
YouTube and that sort of thing. But it was about
the same time that the music industry stopped being able
to make money. So Spotify came around around the same
time that home recording software became easy to buy, and
you see that with movies too, cameras and so, yes,
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it's become democratized at some level.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But the difference.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Conor O'Brien has talked about how when he said, when
there were three channels or four channels, there was maybe
one thing on, right, and then when they expanded to
three hundred channels, there was still maybe one thing on.
So adding the amount of options that people have doesn't increase.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
The amount of talent in the world. But what it does.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
But what it does do is it allows the talent
to people who are there to find a path, and
I think that's that's a good thing. So will will
this technology again, Artificial intelligence I see as a similar
sort of technology to cheap digital cameras and the video stuff.
But what ends up happening, I think is the the
(33:37):
I don't want to say problem. But one element of AI,
that is one element of AI I think needs to
be talked about more, is that the only thing that
it can go on is representations of reality. So if
I take a picture of a tree and then that
gets fed into an algorithm, the the algorithm has access
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to that picture of that tree, but it has it's
one step removed from the tree. And so in the
same way that if I'm talking to you in a
private conversation, I can write down something you said and say, hey,
David said this great thing, and that can get fed
into an algorithm, but it can't get the vibe. It
doesn't know who you are, it knows something you said,
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and so it only has access to representations of reality.
But people who are way more have way more connections
than any algorithm has have access to reality.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
So you've got a if.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
You have a person and you have a real tree,
then you have that's a stronger creative connection that can
be made there than all of the computers that could
ever exist. And so there's more computing power in your
brain than you can imagine. And and that's again a
crude way of talking about what the brain is, but
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there's more. There's more power in your brain, more power
in the thing a thing itself and a relationship with
a real person. Then there is uh in the computer
again trying to fool you into thinking that it knows
what people are like. And so what my my my
hesitance is not in the technology of AI. My hesitance
is about the marketing and and and the way it's
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the way it's being sold.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
So what I what I hope is that yes, whatever
creative things come out now, whatever happens next, is going
to have to have a human connection, has to be
able to represent reality. And if if and people can
represent reality better if they're trained, well, if they if
they're talented, if they're good, Uh, they can do it
(35:43):
better because they've experienced it.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
They know what reality is like. And you can you can.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Have a person drive a big machine that's trying to
you know, approximate that, but it's always going to be
again a few steps removed from the the real, tangible things.
And I think that's I think that's recognizing the limits
of AI and loving or of any kind of technology
and loving the thing that it can't have access to,
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even a camera camera.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
A camera can't have.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Access to a thing, or to your kids, or to
your friends. But you do, and that's more valuable. And
that's any any kind of creative person should be working
their hardest to solidify their connections to the real stuff
in order to bring it into.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Their creations and push things forward.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
So whatever happens, and again, whatever technology anybody ends up using,
my hope is that the humanity shines through because that's
what makes things work well.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I think it you, by the way, that was very
beautifully pulled.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Thank you for surmising a complicated future for us. But
it really is tangential to like you said, that vibe,
that energy, that anima that exists between the human and
their connection into reality itself. I think that was wonderful
if that's the case, and and that's I think another
reason what attracted me to your stuff as much as
(37:09):
it does. How do you what do you do moving forward?
Do you do you come out of the basement and
start making uh, you know, documentaries like Matt Walsh does,
or do you do you continue growing the podcasts and
interviews or what what does Wade do to make that
(37:29):
that tangible connection to the constitutional energy that is a
result from our who we are as a people, our culture,
and then you know, moving forward the unique uh construct
of of where politics are going, where the world is going,
(37:51):
Where do you go and how do you continue to
develop your ability to tell stories?
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, that's that is a huge question, and uh what
what my hope is is that whatever I do. I mean,
I've always seen this any videos I make as at
some level an entertainment product, which I think is okay,
and I know that there's it is amazing what I mean,
everybody talked about this when John Stewart was on the air,
(38:18):
how the entertainment. He was an entertainer, he was a comedian,
He had opinions, and those opinions were really what drove
the show. But he was an entertainer first. But that
was the way that people learned how to think about politics.
They didn't watch the news. They sort of watched John
Stewart watch the news and felt like that was enough,
(38:38):
and I can We're in a different era where John
Stewart has all day, Like, by the time John Stewart
came on at eleven pm Eastern, a lot had happened.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
A lot has happened in commentary world.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So essentially what would happen is commentary all day on
television and then jokes with commentary at the end of
the day. But what happens on X is jokes and
commentary are happening at the same time, and so you've
got this entertainment and commentary thing that's existing already. So
we're in a different era where we're not waiting around
(39:14):
for the jokes. We're not waiting around for you know,
Norm McDonald on Weekend Update to tell us a joke
about what happened on Tuesday, because we're already telling each
other jokes. And you know, hopefully the professional comedy writers
can can do better, but we've.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
We've found out that sometimes they can't.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, sadly, but but yeah, I think that's that's a
fun I'm glad to be doing what I'm doing now,
mainly because I think that the the paths, the old paths,
were always going to implode, mainly because it was.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It was, And again I just.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Talked about like I talked bad about the democratizing process,
so I'll talk good about it. The way that people
have access to a microphone, that does mean that talent
is going to out itself.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
And the way I think about it is that.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I Indy Wilson and Nate Wilson, who's a who's an author,
talks about how God made a world where cream rises.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
That's just the way the world works.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And so whether there's a studio system or like a
or a label system for music or television world that
you've got to get into and start as a PA
and work your way up, or there's the Internet, both
of those, whatever the mechanics the outward systems are, cream
will rise. And my hope is that and so I
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trust that that's the world that I live in and
that no matter what the systems look like, the good
stuff is going to get out there. And we've seen
that happen. I think that there's there's you know, cream
is not the only thing that rises. I want to
be clear about that, but there is. Hopefully, if you
make a good enough thing, then people will listen.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And I think that's uh.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I'm seeing that happen, uh with with people that I'm
a big fan of and people and I love being
an audience member to a lot of success for my friends.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So it's good.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Who can you just give us a quick list of
some of those people, because I really want, if I
really want people to discover there is these these these
other networks, these are these other because there, like you said,
there's so many people doing it and there is so
much talent rising to the top, like yourself. Who are
some of the people that are really influencing you right now?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah, Well, I live in Moscow, Idaho, and I my
my pastor's name is Doug Wilson, and he he's a
guy who I've learned a ton from through books but
also through pastoring and sitting under his teaching on Sundays,
and so most of the actual influences that I have
are going to be closer to home. So so Pastor
(42:00):
Doug Wilson is huge, huge influence on me, and I'd
recommend everybody check out his stuff. But Joe Rigney is
another pastor on the staff there. Jared Longshore has written
several books. Joe Rigney specifically his book on the Sin
of Empathy is something that I think at some levels
started a national conversation.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
He started talking.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
About the way that empathy could be weaponized back in
twenty nineteen, and now we see this as again a
huge national conversation is happening everywhere. But I think his
work on it at least started that conversation. But it's
something that somebody needed to say, and he said it
before anybody did, and kind of took a lot of
(42:41):
arrows early, and so he was.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Able to push through there. But I love Joe.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
He's got a book called cent of Empathy and another
book called Leadership and Emotional Sabotage, both of which are
really really good.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
So, yeah, there are pastors here.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I worked for a company called Canon Press, and so
a huge amount of my influence is just immediate.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
And I see them walking through the office, you know,
so that's great.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
But I also see yeah, I mean, and I got
to see. Speaking of pastor Wilson, he went on Tucker
I think last year, yeah, as one of my.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Favorite shows the last year that he is so.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Good, so good, and you know, he's he's a guy
who's been working away as a pastor for decades and
has been saying a lot of the same stuff that
he's been saying, but doing it in a way that again,
he has a pretty consistent record, and so when he
gets a bunch of opportunities, he's going to just be
the same guy.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
But when people I think we saw this also.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Around the unpleasantness of twenty twenty, where a lot of
people recognized, hey, I've got I wish somebody would have
started building something decades ago because they realized, hey, my
schools are failing my kids. My churches are failing me
at some level. And that's not universal thing. There were
plenty of good churches, plenty of good schools. But I
(43:56):
mean the school that my kids go to got started
in the eighties and it's it's a private Christian school
that started the association of classical Christian schools across the country.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
So again, people have been building for a long time.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
And so when when somebody like Pastor Wilson shows up
on Tucker, he's he's coming with a lot of ethos.
You know, he's coming not just with the right arguments
and the right things to say, but hey, I've been
working on it for a while, and people are now
recognizing the value of that, which which was encouraging to me.
But I also mean that with friends like Rn McIntyre
(44:31):
as a friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
He does stuff over at Blaze. Love his stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
And in a similar way, I think that as people
will are going back to the great thinkers of the
past centuries, I've recognized how great their insights were.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
So I talk about GK. H Asterton all the time,
I talk about C. S.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Lewis I have in this conversation, but also people like
Russell Kirk and people like Edmund Burgh. I did a
video recently where I just quoted Edmund Burke for a
long time. That and my long quotes about Edmond Burke
got called the worst names in the world. You know,
the worst things you can possibly be is a guy
quoting a guy from you know, the seventeen hundreds. So
(45:11):
that's been fun. You know, it's recognizing, hey, the value
is there if we look for it. And so my
my influences are all over the place, and my friends
are all over the place. But like I said, it's
good to see I think the world recognizing that there's
value in reality again, people who've seen reality for a
long time. And then when you hear I said, I
(45:33):
said this about the first time I started reading Pastor
Wilson's books and some books that were coming out of Cannon,
I just realized that the insights per page ratio was
way higher than I was used to. I was used
to really like padded out business books, you know, where
it's like they've got.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Leaders everything looks yes, so you know exactly what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
So like, there are like five insights and they're spread
throughout the whole book, with a bunch of stories connecting
them all, and you know, and I've learned a lot
from those, so I don't want to talk bad about those.
But like again, like Joe Rignany's book Leadership and Emotional Sabotage,
you read that book and you go every sentence you go, oh, man,
I know ten instances where this happened, and you're like, yeah,
it's a.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
So that that's fun.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
And I think people are ready for that kind of
talk where it doesn't have to just be a fill
fill a word count kind of talk, or it doesn't
have to be fill time kind of talk. The places
where the the insights are packed in. I think people
are ready for that and they recognize the value. So,
like I said, I'm really glad to be living in
(46:37):
this kind of world where I see good work from
past decades bearing good fruit and I just get to
again be a happy audience member at some level.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Well, I think you're so much more than that, man.
I think you're taking all of those You're revitalizing them,
They're giving them a new a new energy to them,
and you're really making a just a huge positive impact.
I know you have on me over the last year,
and I know you will continue to do that in
all of the things that you do. And I can't
thank enough Wade for coming on. I appreciate you, I
(47:12):
appreciate what you're doing. And could you just tell everybody
where they can find your show and where they can
follow you.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, I'm on x at Wade Stotts WAD E S
t O T T S and The Wade Show with
Wade is the show that I do, and that's on YouTube.
I also do a podcast every week on Canon Plus,
so cannonplus dot com, and there's a ton of stuff there.
I wish I could go into how much cool stuff
is on Cannon Plus, but I do have a promo
code for ninety nine cents for your first month It
(47:40):
is Wade ninety nine, so check out Canon Plus promo code.
Weaight ninety nine. But yeah, I'm everywhere. I try to
be everywhere anyway you are.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Thank you, brother. Keep doing what you're doing. God bless you.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Man. Well, thank you, David. Appreciate it.
Are you drowning in a sea of conservative ideas?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Well?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Today I welcome Wade Stots, who summarizes what conservativesm means
in a common sense approach. This is the David Rutherford Show.
Every so often, within the social consciousness, someone emerges that
(00:23):
delivers such a profound sense of common sense that it
makes people stop and pay attention to what they're thinking
in their own minds, and they necessarily have an opportunity
through this explosion of It's not righteousness, but it's more
along the lines of just critical thinking in a way
(00:45):
that gives strength to people's thoughts. Wade Stots is this guy.
I've found him last year and his videos really kind
of summarized the way I wanted to be able to
express myself, and so the opportunity when it presented itself,
I reached out to him on X and I said, hey, man,
(01:07):
I love what you do. Would you please come on?
He decided he would join us. So, ladies and gentlemen,
mister Wade Starts.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank you so much. Really appreciate you having me on. David.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Thank you. You know, as as I went through all
of your videos, I began to kind of come up
with an idea that I wanted to focus on today
and that was really centralized around conservative movements and to
get your impression of where we exist right now and
(01:38):
how diversified have those movements become. We've seen lately there's
a battle between woke right and right. There's a battle
between the MAGA movement and neo cons There's a battle.
So just in your opinion, where what is the conservative
overall movement and what are all the little tributaries that
are taking place.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, I think it's it is a fascinating time to
be non left. I think that's where we are, and
a lot of the non left coalition is is seeing
a common enemy and recognizing, hey, we have to team
up with people we may not have thought we would
be teaming up with. And I think that that's a
good development, mainly because the left needs to be defeated,
(02:21):
but I also it's it's it takes on something that
I think is a good development, which is that it's
a kind of conservatism or reaction that's not ideological, so
it's not hard, it's not bound to any particular like
everybody involved I think has high moral beliefs, but it's
(02:42):
not the same thing as having an ideology, which which
I think Russell Kirk characterized as kind of a counterfeit religion,
sort of this set of principles that you hold on
to excuse me, no matter what, and no matter what
facts come at you, or whether you think that it's
working out or something. So in a similar way, I
think that a lot of people voted for Trump that
(03:03):
weren't expecting to do so. And I think that that,
if anything, Trump has reorganized our politics to be yes personal,
which I think is a normal, good development, more personal,
less ideological, I think is a good development, and also
moving away from again this kind of pseudo religion of
I've got my list of the non aggression principle or
(03:26):
whatever kind of thing I want to put in the
center of my world, and then organize all of my
strategy and thinking around. Again, I'm a Christian, so I
don't think that it's bad to have universal beliefs that
can't be touched. But that's not the same thing as
having political strategy beliefs or prudential concerns. And if you
look at most of the what conservatism or I know
(03:48):
again I quoted Russell Kirk, and then use the word conservatism,
but like the.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Is the ism part of that I think can be
a problem.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But if you look at the past, if you look
at the traditional way that people have thought before, they
were okay with multiple kinds of solutions to things.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
They were okay with.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Saying well, this worked for a while and we needed
to change over here just because the circumstances changed again.
Somebody like Edmondburgh, somebody like Russell Kirk, Russell Kirk would
be okay with talking that way, whereas an ideological vision
of it or ideological conservatism trademark wouldn't be quite as
comfortable with different kinds of solutions.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I love that answer. And you did this. Really Two
of my favorites that you came up with was, you know,
you did one show about the Russian or the French
Revolution and that Russoian belief system that we can generate,
you know, our morality based on you know, these principles
of our own our own sovereignty, if you will, let's
(04:47):
get rid of the confines of the church and the
confines of imperial rule and let's just figure it out
as we go. And then there was the other one
that really I thought kind of loosely affiliated with that
was the evolution of our constitutional republic. And I thought
that was fascinating, right, And as I was watching one
(05:10):
that led into the other, it was like, Oh, I
think that kind of postmodernistic belief system is what's actually
kind of morphine our one ideals, and you describe it
as the nineteen fifties or the nineteen nineties right into
that now our fifth level of the constitutional republic. Can
(05:30):
you explain what you meant a little bit to the
listeners and by those statements that you made.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, on the I'll start with a resou point, because
I think that's that leads us well into this. Rousseau
was this guy who essentially thought that, and he was
part of a movement that thought that if you sat
around in a chair long enough, then everybody would basically
come to the same political beliefs or come to the
same ideas about what the rights of man are or
(05:58):
what good is and and what people should be doing
to each other, which is insane. So basically he was
he was sitting and going, well, I know, I can
cut off all of the supernatural elements. I can cut
off every kind of obligation that I might have to
a personal creator. And I can basically think, think long
(06:18):
enough and then I'll be right. Everybody if they thought
long enough, would be right exactly like I am. Which
turns out that those those people tend to treat their
enemies pretty poorly because you're not you're not thinking very well.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
The Gilatine it was on overdrive, absolutely, and so it's
it's a different kind of way of thinking about politics,
way of thinking about man than the kind of thing
that gave birth to America.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
America is was a was an Anglo Protestant project initially,
and it's still at its core an Anglo Protestant thing.
Uh And and I think I mean Pappy Cannon talked
about this. Again, this is not just me coming up
with this stuff Samuel Hunt to others. But when you
look at that, what's happening is that this is a
development of English Protestantism, and so it has particular roots
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and recognizing the particular roots of something where the ideas
come from, where the habits come from, the way of
thinking that the way of operating all comes from somewhere.
And it's not again just people sitting around trying to
come up with the best ideology, trying to come up
with ideas in the sky that they can then impose
on reality. It was people who, again Anglo Protestant you
(07:32):
believe in particular people, there are particular values that come
from their religion, and so they believe in universals. But
the political universals, the political things weren't the same kind
of universal.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
They could be more flexible.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And so seeing the American Constitution as being something the
result of a particular people who were shaped by a
particular religion helps us to recognize what we've lost in
the course of all of this time.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
So it's not just.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
That, hey, we need to get closer to that documents.
It's that the people who formed that document and the
people for whom that document was formed have gone away
at some level, or at least have retreated. And again,
I still think that Anglo Protestantism is the core of America,
and I think that there are a lot of people
who basically, you know, think reality is real, you know,
(08:26):
but they've been sort of bullied at some level into
not being able to.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Say what's true.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
So again there's there's a vision of politics that's just
principles divorced from people, and you could there's a certain
kind of constitutionalism that is a similar sort of way.
We can we can treat the Constitution as an expression
again of these sort of ideas in the sky that
floated down.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That everybody should be governed by.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But you can you can see places where we've tried
to export that constitution to a place that doesn't have
our history and doesn't have the people who've been shaped
in that particular way, and it always fails every single
time we've.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Tried the nation build. We tried that.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, yes, so you can pass out pocket constitutions all
over across the world, and it doesn't It isn't going
to be embraced by the people in the same way
that it was by our original by our founders, because
it's just again, those people were shaped in a particular way,
and so as we look back on it now and
as we as we see I love the American constitutional order,
(09:28):
I love the people that produced the Constitution, I love
the Constitution itself, and I think that again, I made
a video that had a pretty provocative title, which was
the Constitution is Dead.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That was one of my favorite ones. But I watched
that but three times.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
But at some level, it's just recognizing, hey, we've we've
done a lot of damage not only to the written Constitution,
but also the unwritten Constitution, the habits and the forms
of the people who made this thing. And the reason
that we're so far away from this that you mentioned this,
I think in a different context. But John Adams saying
(10:06):
that we're the Constitution is made for moral and religious people.
It is not suitable for the government of any other
I believe that's the quote and so and so. At
some level, if we're not moral and religious people, then
the Constitution doesn't make sense to us anymore. No wonder
we're having such trouble obeying the Constitution. It's that the
people we are is not the people who made this uh,
(10:28):
and I see that as a tragedy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'd love to get back to something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But again, it's it's a it's a way of recognizing
that there's a constitutionalism that can become an ideological vision
that is separated from the people, the values, the culture,
where where we're where we all the the baseline assumptions
that everybody has, and I think that that's that's undervalued
to our to our peril.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Excuse me, I couldn't agree more with you. I you know,
I think as as as I've spent you know, a
pretty significant amount of my time trying to understand culture
over the course of my years.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
It's like, you know, because I remember everybody was always
when I started, you know, teaching and training people, is like, oh,
we want to have the culture of the Navy seals.
And and I'm like, uh, all right, well here, come
in here, and I'm gonna have this boat filled with
ice water, and I'm gonna beat you down before you
go to your computer terminal, and I'm gonna scream at
(11:27):
you and you know, and all this. And they're like, oh, wait,
that's not what we want, right right, we we we
want to we want to extrapolate the gains from you know,
the long term impacts of of that forging process without
the pain of the forging process itself. And and I
(11:49):
think that's where we're at. And and and you always
are so eloquent by the way you describe it, and
I love by the way. I love the way you
put humor into it too. It It really makes it
so much more palatable for people if to have a
little satirical aspect of it. And I just think it's
brilliant the way you do that. As you begin to
(12:09):
look at the movement, let's call let's take the Magnum
Maga movement for for instance, do you think that's kind
of what you're talking about emerging? Like it's it's this
core I these the foundational principles of what we all
still think is the representation of America right as we
(12:31):
as we teach our kids and we go to ball
games and we you know, we go to PTA conferences
and you know, we we do community things like that's
still relevant. It's still this amorphous energy. That kind of trick,
you know, is always just lurking in the corners of
our municipalities. But now this Maga movement has emerged. Do
(12:53):
you believe like that's that those original ideas from our
founders try to break through the suppression or the the
the what is it, the forced separation between the ideology
and the and the culture itself. Sorry for the interruption.
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Speaker 2 (14:02):
Oh yeah, yeah. I think that back to the ideological point.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
At some level, the Trump mantra of making deals, you know,
being the guy who makes deals and solves problems. That's
an attractive proposition, which is again a way that people
aren't used to thinking or talking about politics. And that
means that Trump is okay with appealing to things that
came before the twentieth century. So when when Trump has
(14:35):
somebody like Andrew Jackson on his wall, people don't even
know what that means. But at some level, he's also
appealing to Andrew Jackson's actions in office.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And so people who are not familiar with him or.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I think that the twentieth century at some level functions
as this sort of brick wall that some people have
to even being able to think about what politics is,
so that if somebody can't go before that or even
to the early twentieth century, then I think, yeah, our
politics have basically been locked into the dialogue of the
twentieth century, which was the century of ideological conflict. I mean,
(15:12):
it was the century of conflict between basically liberal democracy
and fascism and communism, and these isms kind of characterize
that century. But again, Trump, I think is okay with
again pulling things from the Alien Enemies Act, which is
way older than the twentieth century, and again talking about
Andrew Jackson talking about these are the people who he
(15:35):
sees as his forebears and as his sort of ancestors
in the office. But that's not seen as accessible most
of the time. And so it's refreshing at some level
for people who are American history fanatics to have somebody
who appeals to something laws that are older laws and.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Habits that we've lost at some level.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
And I think that at some level the people who
are most concerned times. You see this with some Supreme
Court decisions, people who are obsessed most of the time
with doing something constitutionally or that sort of thing. Can't
get passed again, that wall of the twentieth century to
be able to see what came before, what were the intentions,
(16:16):
and so as as much as you know, the America make.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
America Great Again slogan is a it can be.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It can be sort of this thing that you fill
your own meaning into, which is fine, you know that
that's how political slogans work. But recognizing, hey, this is
not just rewind to the nineteen eighties and that's okay,
and it's and it's and that's that would be impossible
anyway we tried it. As much as I love the
nineteen eighties and I love the nineteen nineties and the
(16:48):
nineteen fifties for what they were, but yeah, the the
solutions that are on the table, the way we're talking
about things is as a country that has interests.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And so I think that this forgive me if I'm
going too long, but now it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
The sort of post World War two way of thinking
about the world is that, well, World War Two happened
because of because Hitler thought that there was such.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
A thing as national interests.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
And so anybody who talks about national interests must be
a bad guy. That's kind of a silly way of
thinking about World War Two, but that was the way
that it's been interpreted now. And so now we are
comfortable at least moving past that way of thinking and saying, no,
we are a nation and we do have interests, and
we understood that for a long time before. I think
(17:37):
the twentieth century perverted that way of thinking, and so
now it's okay to reclaim and say, hey, our trade
should reflect the fact that.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
We have national interests.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Our defense policy should should reflect that, should reflect that
we're a country. So when we have somebody like one
of the reasons I loved the Zelensky Trump meeting is
that so good, Such a great moment. And the reason
one of the reasons it was so great is that
Zelensky had never talked to somebody an American leader who
(18:08):
thought that America was a particular place with particular interests
and that those superseded in the American leader's mind the
interests of another country.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And so we're okay with making deals.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Hey, I'm happy to make a deal, but the deal
has to work out for us, has to look good
for us. And so again that's it's refreshing. It's why
people look at Trump and say, hey, he represents us
at some level. It is because he's okay with saying, hey,
we've had bad deals, I'm going to make a better deal.
And that's you see that non ideological function with bringing
on people who don't have people like RFK who Again,
(18:41):
it's just it's a problem solving move. I see a problem,
I want to solve that problem. And so it's it's
coalition building, it's there's practical political reasons for it, but
it's also the same spirit of I see a big problem,
I want to fix it. And then if you if
somebody comes along and says, actually, the constitution says that
we have to have poisonous food and we have to
(19:04):
have infinity and number of immigrants, then like, I'm not
interested in really arguing the constitutional point there, because at
some level it's just a matter of okay that whatever
the legal argument you have, I don't want us to
be overrun by uh, you know, tens of millions of immigrants.
And I also don't want our food to be poisonous.
So let's solve some problems and I think that's that's
(19:26):
a good move Oh.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think it's it's reinvigorated, if not, I mean the
conservative movement, but it's reinvigorated American pride. Right. It's it's
like that. The essence of what drove Andrew Jackson right
is is that sensation. No, you know, we're we're gonna
(19:49):
we're gonna head west and we're gonna you know, that
manifest destiny of of of yesterday year, right, We're gonna
reclaim our position of greatness. Yeah, I that that meeting.
I must have watched that interview fifty times. It was
so rewarding to me that finally, you know, somebody would
(20:11):
would stand up for what we we we believe, including
you know the Five Mafia with with JD. Vance, which
is even more refreshing, right if Obviously, I think when
you evaluate and as I go back, you know to
the twentieth century, when I was going to school and
(20:33):
growing up in the seventies, eighties, and nineties, you know,
I I there was a much different focus on the
educational system. There was a much greater focus. And I
just had this conversation recently dealing with trying to get
(20:54):
my children to feel the intensity of my teammates who
have died in combat, or to feel the intensity of
my brothers who've killed themselves. Right, and it's like, hey, listen,
there's something more to just their name on a tombstone
in Arlington, Right, There's something more to it. And that
(21:16):
something more I think as I evaluate day in and
day out their education, when they come home and I'd say,
let me see what you're studying. Let me tell me
what you're studying, what are you doing? We have these conversations.
I think a lot of that is missing. How do
you how do we get back to or what are
some what are some options for us to get back
(21:40):
towards that gen z right now, because there seems to
be kind of a not an initiative, but a revival
in that sensation of American pride and that original core ideology.
What are some core things that you would recommend for
(22:01):
young men, young women, or teachers or parents to introduce
their kids to or themselves to to reclaim that.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, I think I think that a lot of it
is going to be the power of storytelling.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So the kind of people who CS Lewis talked about this.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
In goodness, I think it was The Abolition of Man,
where he talked about how an argument, a syllogism is
not going to be the thing that that sustains a
soldier in the third hour of a bombardment. Right, a
syllogism is not the thing that's going to hold them there.
But the sort of the most shallow sentimentalism for something
(22:47):
like a nation or a flag, that's what's going to
do it. So the people who fight the most are
not motivated again by arguments, principles and sort of ideas
in the sky again their motive to buy a sentiment
and love for they look up at a flag and
they look at the guy next to him, and they go,
this is why I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I mean, I'm a.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I really like the Black Hawk Down. So I'm a big,
big fan of blackhock Down and what a great movie.
But the end of that is why don't you do it?
You do it for the guy next to you, And
so you can watch that movie. I think that what
that movie gets right is and I didn't serve And
so I'm watching these guys and learning from from what
they did, but or at least what's represented to me,
(23:31):
and what it shows is, hey, there's a certain level
of you can talk about the conflict that they were
in right and say, hey, this was misguided or this
project was going to fail. In that kind of way,
you can look at it and Monday morning quarterback it.
But at some level there's real American love for America
and love for the American next to you that motivates
(23:52):
those people. So I think storytelling is going to be
a big part of that. Part of it's going to
be historical and reading history or but I think also
the watching movies that will.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Show value of America.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I think again, I talked a bad about the twentieth
century earlier, so I want to may maybe talk maybe talk.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
A little bit positively about it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
There is plenty of really good storytelling that happened in
the twentieth century that did motivate the people who we
see as heroes. So the people who have given all
for the country were motivated at some level not just
by the symbolism of a flag, but what that symbolism,
what had fed into that. And so some of that's
(24:36):
going to come from the movies that they watched. Some
of that's going to come from again the stories that
they were told. So what we have to do is
at some level reinvigorate the national memory and the national
imagination so that then those things travel at some level together.
So I think that's a piece of it, because again
(24:57):
Lewis served in combat.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Lewis no c s.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Lewis knows, Hey, I wasn't sitting there on like I
couldn't draw on the chalkboard. Why why I was still
there or why I stayed where I was supposed to be.
But I was there, and it was loyalty, and it
was it was again a sentimentality at some level, which
you can you know, you can say, hey, that's not real,
that's not rational, but everybody knows that that's not true.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
What are the things that motivate you most.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
It's not the things again that you can sketch out
on a blackboard. It's your family relationships, it's the it's
the things that really drive you. So that's that's the
the baseline familial aspect. And then the storytelling of hey,
we we love our country and that's not just not
just principles, it's the stories that we tell. And again
(25:45):
I I I love watching old war movies. I love
watching old westerns and things like that, and I think
that really has those those things have motivated a generation
to do greater.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Things than I'm capable of doing.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
And so what I want to do is feed that
to my kids and also be that to myself and
recognize that's that's the thing that that gives you affection
and you know you can you can at some level.
You have to be the guy who goes to a
Fourth of July parade and like gets wells up with pride,
even if it is just the local bank. You know,
somebody from the local bank holding an American flag. You know,
(26:21):
there's there's some something that and and you can't really
there's no like, there's no medical prescription that you can
give that turns that on right. And like if if
at some level you have to be the kind of person.
Uh and and this goes into the American identity thing
that I think we were going to talk about. Yeah,
if you can look at a statue of George Washington
(26:43):
and say that's my people, that's who I come from
and be proud of coming from that kind of person
and being a part of the nation that he found it,
that's that's the kind that's identity stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's that's I'm going to fight stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
And that's that's the kind of thing that matters and
creates camaraderie. If we're bound together, not even not necessarily
even by the same stories, but by the same kinds
of stories.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Then I think we're gonna last a little bit longer.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
This is why I'm encouraged by things like The Top
Gun Maverick. You know, like it sounds silly, but it
sounds silly, but at some level, like in twenty twenty two,
everybody kind of needed a little bit of that. That
it was it was a nostalgia trip, not just for
this old movie that we all liked when we were
growing up, but it was also a vision of, Hey,
these are good people working hard to do the right thing.
(27:32):
They have a mission, they focus on the mission, and
they and they care about how it goes because they
care about each other. And again that's that's a popcorn movie.
But like that that there's still something, there's still nerve
endings in the American body that light up when they
hit something like that, And I think that's good that
that and that that's the kind of thing that I
think will help us Celebrations like the uh, you know,
(27:55):
the anniversary coming up two hundred and fifteth Saled celebration.
That's huge, I think. But yeah, it's it's going to
be encouraging and encouraging at some level. The sentiment, the
sentimental uh part of identity. UH, that that will make
a big difference.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I agree, man, And I love how you always as
I mean, you're obviously a phenomenal storyteller. And I think
that's another thing. I'm I'm a sucker for great storytelling too. Man.
I just I just get trapped. And I was a
movie kid my whole life, right, And just the other
day I watched The Big Red One again with Lee
Marvin and he was one of my heroes as a kid,
(28:36):
and it's such a beautiful movie about this small team
that goes from Northern Africa to Sicily to to to
uh France all the way through and it's just beautiful
story of this old sergeant who was in World War
One and finishes in World War Two. And you know,
(28:56):
and I was I was just thinking to myself, I
got that's what we need more of. We need, you know,
because I believe that the cultural foundations of America are
rooted in stories. It's the stories of escaping persecution from
England or from the Church, or you know, it's escaping persecution,
(29:17):
you know, famine from from Ireland. It's the Scottish leaving
and coming to the Appalachians and and founding there. And
you know, and I think those stories are are are
profound as you've you've said that, and I love how
you described the wiring in us, like those tentacles that
are just waiting for that emotion to hit us and
(29:38):
to light us up, in particular young people. What as
as AI emerges And do you think that you know,
in a greater capacity to tell stories by using ai AI.
The latest versions of all the different video software are insane.
(29:59):
Someone just put one out the other day that it
showed what the collapse of like the apocalypse, and they
created all the influencers online and how they would be
filming themselves in the in the in the apocalypse, and
it was brilliant. It was just so beautifully done, and
(30:20):
you know, as satirically done. How do you think, like,
do you foresee a real emergence of those kind of
stories of past coming out to really penetrate through the
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Speaker 3 (31:39):
It's it's tough mainly because obviously it's tough to predict anything.
But what we've seen with the AI at some level
is kind of a is marketing. The marketing around AI
is that it is a democratizing force. It's a thing
that allows anybody to do to fulfill their dreams and
(31:59):
make something. The problem that I see with that is
that every time an industry has become democratized, that industry
at some level dies. And I don't take any joy
in saying that. I mean, like, it's what happened with music.
As soon as around the same time that everybody said, hey,
(32:20):
I can make a record in my bedroom. Is around
the time that yes, a few people jumped up to
the top of the charts and people got popular through
YouTube and that sort of thing. But it was about
the same time that the music industry stopped being able
to make money. So Spotify came around around the same
time that home recording software became easy to buy, and
you see that with movies too, cameras and so, yes,
(32:44):
it's become democratized at some level.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But the difference.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Conor O'Brien has talked about how when he said, when
there were three channels or four channels, there was maybe
one thing on, right, and then when they expanded to
three hundred channels, there was still maybe one thing on.
So adding the amount of options that people have doesn't increase.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
The amount of talent in the world. But what it does.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
But what it does do is it allows the talent
to people who are there to find a path, and
I think that's that's a good thing. So will will
this technology again, Artificial intelligence I see as a similar
sort of technology to cheap digital cameras and the video stuff.
But what ends up happening, I think is the the
(33:37):
I don't want to say problem. But one element of AI,
that is one element of AI I think needs to
be talked about more, is that the only thing that
it can go on is representations of reality. So if
I take a picture of a tree and then that
gets fed into an algorithm, the the algorithm has access
(34:01):
to that picture of that tree, but it has it's
one step removed from the tree. And so in the
same way that if I'm talking to you in a
private conversation, I can write down something you said and say, hey,
David said this great thing, and that can get fed
into an algorithm, but it can't get the vibe. It
doesn't know who you are, it knows something you said,
(34:24):
and so it only has access to representations of reality.
But people who are way more have way more connections
than any algorithm has have access to reality.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
So you've got a if.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
You have a person and you have a real tree,
then you have that's a stronger creative connection that can
be made there than all of the computers that could
ever exist. And so there's more computing power in your
brain than you can imagine. And and that's again a
crude way of talking about what the brain is, but
(34:57):
there's more. There's more power in your brain, more power
in the thing a thing itself and a relationship with
a real person. Then there is uh in the computer
again trying to fool you into thinking that it knows
what people are like. And so what my my my
hesitance is not in the technology of AI. My hesitance
is about the marketing and and and the way it's
(35:20):
the way it's being sold.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
So what I what I hope is that yes, whatever
creative things come out now, whatever happens next, is going
to have to have a human connection, has to be
able to represent reality. And if if and people can
represent reality better if they're trained, well, if they if
they're talented, if they're good, Uh, they can do it
(35:43):
better because they've experienced it.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
They know what reality is like. And you can you can.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Have a person drive a big machine that's trying to
you know, approximate that, but it's always going to be
again a few steps removed from the the real, tangible things.
And I think that's I think that's recognizing the limits
of AI and loving or of any kind of technology
and loving the thing that it can't have access to,
(36:13):
even a camera camera.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
A camera can't have.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Access to a thing, or to your kids, or to
your friends. But you do, and that's more valuable. And
that's any any kind of creative person should be working
their hardest to solidify their connections to the real stuff
in order to bring it into.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Their creations and push things forward.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
So whatever happens, and again, whatever technology anybody ends up using,
my hope is that the humanity shines through because that's
what makes things work well.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
I think it you, by the way, that was very
beautifully pulled.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Thank you for surmising a complicated future for us. But
it really is tangential to like you said, that vibe,
that energy, that anima that exists between the human and
their connection into reality itself. I think that was wonderful
if that's the case, and and that's I think another
reason what attracted me to your stuff as much as
(37:09):
it does. How do you what do you do moving forward?
Do you do you come out of the basement and
start making uh, you know, documentaries like Matt Walsh does,
or do you do you continue growing the podcasts and
interviews or what what does Wade do to make that
(37:29):
that tangible connection to the constitutional energy that is a
result from our who we are as a people, our culture,
and then you know, moving forward the unique uh construct
of of where politics are going, where the world is going,
(37:51):
Where do you go and how do you continue to
develop your ability to tell stories?
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, that's that is a huge question, and uh what
what my hope is is that whatever I do. I mean,
I've always seen this any videos I make as at
some level an entertainment product, which I think is okay,
and I know that there's it is amazing what I mean,
everybody talked about this when John Stewart was on the air,
(38:18):
how the entertainment. He was an entertainer, he was a comedian,
He had opinions, and those opinions were really what drove
the show. But he was an entertainer first. But that
was the way that people learned how to think about politics.
They didn't watch the news. They sort of watched John
Stewart watch the news and felt like that was enough,
(38:38):
and I can We're in a different era where John
Stewart has all day, Like, by the time John Stewart
came on at eleven pm Eastern, a lot had happened.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
A lot has happened in commentary world.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
So essentially what would happen is commentary all day on
television and then jokes with commentary at the end of
the day. But what happens on X is jokes and
commentary are happening at the same time, and so you've
got this entertainment and commentary thing that's existing already. So
we're in a different era where we're not waiting around
(39:14):
for the jokes. We're not waiting around for you know,
Norm McDonald on Weekend Update to tell us a joke
about what happened on Tuesday, because we're already telling each
other jokes. And you know, hopefully the professional comedy writers
can can do better, but we've.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
We've found out that sometimes they can't.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, sadly, but but yeah, I think that's that's a
fun I'm glad to be doing what I'm doing now,
mainly because I think that the the paths, the old paths,
were always going to implode, mainly because it was.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It was, And again I just.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Talked about like I talked bad about the democratizing process,
so I'll talk good about it. The way that people
have access to a microphone, that does mean that talent
is going to out itself.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
And the way I think about it is that.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I Indy Wilson and Nate Wilson, who's a who's an author,
talks about how God made a world where cream rises.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
That's just the way the world works.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And so whether there's a studio system or like a
or a label system for music or television world that
you've got to get into and start as a PA
and work your way up, or there's the Internet, both
of those, whatever the mechanics the outward systems are, cream
will rise. And my hope is that and so I
(40:44):
trust that that's the world that I live in and
that no matter what the systems look like, the good
stuff is going to get out there. And we've seen
that happen. I think that there's there's you know, cream
is not the only thing that rises. I want to
be clear about that, but there is. Hopefully, if you
make a good enough thing, then people will listen.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And I think that's uh.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I'm seeing that happen, uh with with people that I'm
a big fan of and people and I love being
an audience member to a lot of success for my friends.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So it's good.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Who can you just give us a quick list of
some of those people, because I really want, if I
really want people to discover there is these these these
other networks, these are these other because there, like you said,
there's so many people doing it and there is so
much talent rising to the top, like yourself. Who are
some of the people that are really influencing you right now?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yeah, Well, I live in Moscow, Idaho, and I my
my pastor's name is Doug Wilson, and he he's a
guy who I've learned a ton from through books but
also through pastoring and sitting under his teaching on Sundays,
and so most of the actual influences that I have
are going to be closer to home. So so Pastor
(42:00):
Doug Wilson is huge, huge influence on me, and I'd
recommend everybody check out his stuff. But Joe Rigney is
another pastor on the staff there. Jared Longshore has written
several books. Joe Rigney specifically his book on the Sin
of Empathy is something that I think at some levels
started a national conversation.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
He started talking.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
About the way that empathy could be weaponized back in
twenty nineteen, and now we see this as again a
huge national conversation is happening everywhere. But I think his
work on it at least started that conversation. But it's
something that somebody needed to say, and he said it
before anybody did, and kind of took a lot of
(42:41):
arrows early, and so he was.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Able to push through there. But I love Joe.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
He's got a book called cent of Empathy and another
book called Leadership and Emotional Sabotage, both of which are
really really good.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
So, yeah, there are pastors here.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I worked for a company called Canon Press, and so
a huge amount of my influence is just immediate.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
And I see them walking through the office, you know,
so that's great.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
But I also see yeah, I mean, and I got
to see. Speaking of pastor Wilson, he went on Tucker
I think last year, yeah, as one of my.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Favorite shows the last year that he is so.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Good, so good, and you know, he's he's a guy
who's been working away as a pastor for decades and
has been saying a lot of the same stuff that
he's been saying, but doing it in a way that again,
he has a pretty consistent record, and so when he
gets a bunch of opportunities, he's going to just be
the same guy.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
But when people I think we saw this also.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Around the unpleasantness of twenty twenty, where a lot of
people recognized, hey, I've got I wish somebody would have
started building something decades ago because they realized, hey, my
schools are failing my kids. My churches are failing me
at some level. And that's not universal thing. There were
plenty of good churches, plenty of good schools. But I
(43:56):
mean the school that my kids go to got started
in the eighties and it's it's a private Christian school
that started the association of classical Christian schools across the country.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
So again, people have been building for a long time.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
And so when when somebody like Pastor Wilson shows up
on Tucker, he's he's coming with a lot of ethos.
You know, he's coming not just with the right arguments
and the right things to say, but hey, I've been
working on it for a while, and people are now
recognizing the value of that, which which was encouraging to me.
But I also mean that with friends like Rn McIntyre
(44:31):
as a friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
He does stuff over at Blaze. Love his stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
And in a similar way, I think that as people
will are going back to the great thinkers of the
past centuries, I've recognized how great their insights were.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
So I talk about GK. H Asterton all the time,
I talk about C. S.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Lewis I have in this conversation, but also people like
Russell Kirk and people like Edmund Burgh. I did a
video recently where I just quoted Edmund Burke for a
long time. That and my long quotes about Edmond Burke
got called the worst names in the world. You know,
the worst things you can possibly be is a guy
quoting a guy from you know, the seventeen hundreds. So
(45:11):
that's been fun. You know, it's recognizing, hey, the value
is there if we look for it. And so my
my influences are all over the place, and my friends
are all over the place. But like I said, it's
good to see I think the world recognizing that there's
value in reality again, people who've seen reality for a
long time. And then when you hear I said, I
(45:33):
said this about the first time I started reading Pastor
Wilson's books and some books that were coming out of Cannon,
I just realized that the insights per page ratio was
way higher than I was used to. I was used
to really like padded out business books, you know, where
it's like they've got.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Leaders everything looks yes, so you know exactly what I mean.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
So like, there are like five insights and they're spread
throughout the whole book, with a bunch of stories connecting
them all, and you know, and I've learned a lot
from those, so I don't want to talk bad about those.
But like again, like Joe Rignany's book Leadership and Emotional Sabotage,
you read that book and you go every sentence you go, oh, man,
I know ten instances where this happened, and you're like, yeah,
it's a.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
So that that's fun.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
And I think people are ready for that kind of
talk where it doesn't have to just be a fill
fill a word count kind of talk, or it doesn't
have to be fill time kind of talk. The places
where the the insights are packed in. I think people
are ready for that and they recognize the value. So,
like I said, I'm really glad to be living in
(46:37):
this kind of world where I see good work from
past decades bearing good fruit and I just get to
again be a happy audience member at some level.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Well, I think you're so much more than that, man.
I think you're taking all of those You're revitalizing them,
They're giving them a new a new energy to them,
and you're really making a just a huge positive impact.
I know you have on me over the last year,
and I know you will continue to do that in
all of the things that you do. And I can't
thank enough Wade for coming on. I appreciate you, I
(47:12):
appreciate what you're doing. And could you just tell everybody
where they can find your show and where they can
follow you.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, I'm on x at Wade Stotts WAD E S
t O T T S and The Wade Show with
Wade is the show that I do, and that's on YouTube.
I also do a podcast every week on Canon Plus,
so cannonplus dot com, and there's a ton of stuff there.
I wish I could go into how much cool stuff
is on Cannon Plus, but I do have a promo
code for ninety nine cents for your first month It
(47:40):
is Wade ninety nine, so check out Canon Plus promo code.
Weaight ninety nine. But yeah, I'm everywhere. I try to
be everywhere anyway you are.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Thank you, brother. Keep doing what you're doing. God bless you.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Man. Well, thank you, David. Appreciate it.
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