September 19, 2022 • 54 mins
Bidenology: Analyzing the Crazy Stuff Biden Says. Libs Hate When Their Intelligence is Questioned. Charles Gasparino on the Economy: the Soft Landing vs. the Crash Landing. Tiffany Smiley, Sen. Candidate for WA, on Giving Handups - Not Handouts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show
Monday edition of the program. We hope all of you
had fantastic weekends wherever you may be across this great country.
We are rolling, i believe today, fifty days until the
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mid term. Buck, we'll get into some of the latest
polling numbers, some of the latest odd shifting where are
things moving? But Joe Biden hadn't done an actual interview
in over two hundred days, I believe was the number.
An unprecedented amount of days to not sit down and
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do a one on one interview sixty minutes. As many
of you out there who watch NFL football knows, makes
a ton of money and viewership off their show coming
on immediately after the NFL ends on CBS many different weekends,
and that was the case with the debut episode of
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their new season, and it featured a long form interview
with President Joe Biden and Buck. As is often the case,
the more Biden talks, the worse it goes for him.
His approval ratings went up when he got COVID and
when he spent a month on vacation during the summer.
Since he's come back and started talking, his numbers haven't
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gone down, and now the left wing of his own
party is angry at him. There were a lot of
news related comments from Biden because he doesn't talk to
the media that much, but let's start with this one.
He said, the COVID pandemic is over. This was last
night on sixty Minutes. I want you to listen this
president first Detroit auto show in three years. Yeah, is
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the pandemic over? The pandemic is over. We still have
a problem with COVID. We're still doing a lot of
work on it, but the pandemic is over. If you notice,
no one's wearing masks. Everybody's being pretty good shape. He
was wearing masks outside alone two years, two weeks ago, Clay,
for two years, they've been wearing masks. Two weeks ago,
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he was wearing a mask. I saw people this morning
on the street in New York City, and I saw
more than just that. We'll talk about that later, wearing masks.
What changed between now and then, Oh, there's an election come,
They're really gonna do this right now, They're gonna do
the whole We're gonna tell everybody everything's great and hope
that they're just foolish enough to believe the propaganda. Clay.
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They fired eight hundred and fifty teachers last week in
New York City where I am right now. Who could
justify this? They fired them for not getting the vaccine everybody.
They fired almost a thousand employees of the City of
New York last week because they won't get a shot.
And it's up to nearly two thousand I think teachers
in total total, but they just did eight fifty four.
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I mean, it's way a fire people a year ago
was stupid and unfair. Find people now is just monstrous
and vindictive. I mean, this is completely insane. Why isn't
Joe Biden asked about that? Where is Mayor Eric Adams,
who is a total catastrophe, by the way, a buffoon,
an imbecile. Where is he on this issue? It's a
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great question. And what I found most interesting about Biden's
comment there, for anyone who has a functional brain and
looked at the data, COVID was over by the summer
of twenty twenty, and I know a lot of you
out there feel the same way that you knew what
the dangers were that you knew what you might need
to do depending on your individual health concerns. But basically
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the data has continued to reflect if you're under the
age of fifty, you were never in any sort of
danger from COVID at all. You were far more likely,
for instance, under fifty, to die driving to and from
your office than you were to die with COVID. And
certainly if you're a kid, the fact that we required
kids to wear masks at all. But Buck, what I
found most interesting about this was not Joe Biden saying
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it because I agree with you. I think it's a
ploy to try to look like he's accomplished something as
we get ready for the mid terms. Because remember the
premise upon which Biden ran was twofold, I'll solve COVID,
I'll end COVID, and that whatever has not happened, really
And he also said I'll restore normalcy and decency to
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the White House. That certainly hasn't happened either. But on
the COVID front, Buck, there's about thirty percent, twenty five
percent maybe of the American public, and they are wildly
overrepresented on social media and certainly way overrepresented in the
Blue Check brigade on Twitter that are furious at Joe
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Biden for saying the COVID pandemic is over. I mean,
it was just trending last night. Number one trend was
COVID is not over, and they were ripping Joe Biden
for saying this. You know what this has really shown us.
They're so many different aspects of the of the COVID fauciite,
locked down or panic mentality. But one part of this
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that I think now you can see very clearly is
that the same people who are addicted to victimization COVID
is victimizing them. Oh my gosh, COVID. I'm always so scared.
I have long COVID. I need four masks. I'm immunocompromise.
Have you ever, by the way, I actually have an
immune disorder, which is ciliac disease. I've never heard so
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many people in my life running around dudo. Oh, I
I need everyone to wear a mask because I'm immunocompromise. Like,
you're twenty five years old and you've never said this
to anybody before, and you're a Blue Check and now
you're a Oh, now you're suspiciously somebody who's what the vulnerable,
The vulnerable people, you know, always vulnerable, people who were old,
people were overweight, people with severe health issues who are
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old and overweight. Everybody else is pretty much fine, okay.
And the fact that we're still walking around listening to
people wide about this, it's what you're really seeing. The
same people who think it's it's a horrible catastrophe if
everyone doesn't announce their pronouns, you know, are the people
who are now saying, oh, the pandemic, I'm so scared
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of it all the time. Perpetual victimhood. They're addicted to it,
and COVID is an opportunity to play the victim for
them forever, by the way, forever. Yeah. I think one
of the primary impacts of social media is it fetishized victimhood. Buck,
I'm old enough to remember, and you're old enough to remember,
even though you're still a very young man. Am I
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old enough to remem Clay? You gotta be careful? Would
you use that construct? I don't know. When we were kids.
I'm betting you were taught the same thing that I was.
You never wanted to be a victim. If someone bullied you,
you stood up to the bully. And there's that great
scene if you want to sort of use it as
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an epitomization of this Christmas story, you know, when Ralphie
confronts the bully and after getting picked on, picked on,
picked on, finally he just turns on the bully and
beats him up. I mean, that's one of the iconic
scenes in a marriage. I thought you were gonna go
with Marty McFly's dad when he knocks out the bully
at prom. It's like, one of the most inspiring moments
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of my young life was seeing that guy get laid
out on the car. What would happen now is you
would go to your teacher. You would say, oh, somebody's
being really mean to you. You would go home, your
mom would sit you down on the couch. They would
take a TikTok video. They would put the TikTok video
up on social media. It would go viral, and for
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being a victim, you would be fetishized that there would
be a great amount of outpouring of emotional support because
of people being mean to you. And look, I wish
bullying didn't exist. I wish there weren't bad things in
the world, but we have taught an entire generation of kids,
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and they certainly are coming of age on social media
that being a victim is a point of pride. That
if someone is mean to you and you gives you
passial media and talk about its powerful. This is why
they this is why the COVID lunatics love this. It's oh,
you have to mask, you have to do this because
I said so, because I'm at risk. Yeah, and and
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and buck. I mean, I keep coming back to stories
like Jesse Smallett and the BYU volleyball the duke volleyball
player at BYU, because this is the natural outgrowth of that.
People who aren't even victims now are so in love
with the idea of being a victim that they either
make it up whole cloth like Jesse Smallett did, or
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they maybe best case scenario, if you're being really charitable
to this duke volleyball player, she thought she heard racial
slurs when they weren't actually there because she's so conditioned
to believe that she's a victim, and then she goes
on social media and everybody praises her. And so this
to me, like the COVID, it's a good connection by you.
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This COVID fearmongering, the fear porn as I've caused called
it for a couple of years. These people are not
going to let go. And I really wonder how does
the Biden administration, even if it's just for politics that
he says COVID is over, how do they manage to
convince the thirty percent or forty percent of the Democrat
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base that will not give this up? How do they
convince them to go back to normal? I just know
whw they do. Obviously, today we're going to talk about
the Martha's Vineyard migrant debacle and the following of that,
and inflation and Biden's inflation, and so we got Charlie
Gasparino from Fox joining to talk about that. I mean,
we're going to tackle all these issues of border economy,
everything else. But why do we keep hammering COVID. We
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keep telling everybody about this because we have enough people
listening in states that are up for grabs that if
this audience mobilizes on that issue at the polling place
when they're actually voting, there can be some accountability. But
also we can stop this. The Biden administration still wants
to bring back the federal mask mandate as a tool
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they can turn on and turn off for people who
think this is all done. To your point about the
thirty or forty percent of hysteric meltdown, Lib Democrat basic
cost a lot to wing out there. By the way,
it's what's amazing to me too, is that they're actually
not seeing your citizens. Senior citizens have a perspective on life.
They understand. They're the ones that I see freaking out
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are aged twenty five to forty five. Particularly, you know,
those are which have zero risk, zero risk. So they
just love this. They love the attention and love the
power off. You have to do this because I say so,
they're going to try to downplay this place. Why Biden
just said, oh, the pandemic's over, because first of all,
promises made, promises kept with the pandemic is going to
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be something they try to say. By the way, do
you think this was planned or do you think he
just stepped all over himself and said this. I think
it's I think biden Ology. The analysis of Biden is
made effectively impossible to do with precision because it's tough
to know whether it's mostly he's stupid, which he is,
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mostly nasty, which he is mostly lying, or it's a
function of his age in dementia. It's you can never
really tell which of those is the primary factor, I think.
So to your point about what he's saying in this speech,
I don't know, man. I mean, there's plenty of reasons
why Joe Biden says crazy stuff that's untrue, that goes
off the rails. And I think obviously a lot of
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people listening would say, well, buckets. I agree, it's all
of those things. I'm just saying to put it on one.
You know, is it because he's a little bit out
of it today, is he sundowning? Or is it because
he's in a foul mood because he's a nasty guy.
But Clay, they're going to just bring it back to
why we have to remind everybody about They just fired
eight hundred and fift people from New York last week.
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Some of them not a lot, but some of them
probably listen to this show. Not a lot of teachers
in the New York City public schools system listeners, but some.
You know, they just fired people, and they're gonna bring
some of this stuff back if they can get away
with it, They're gonna dial it up a little bit
in the winter. As soon as the midterms are over,
they will. And we know because we've been telling you
for a couple of years now. The numbers will likely
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go up for COVID like they do for cold and
flu and have for generations in winter. So when everybody
goes inside and it's cold outside and you're not spending
as much time outdoors. Remember where they told everybody to
go indoors and not go outside, which is one of
the most ridiculous I just kind of just jumping one thing.
They actually made COVID worse. I want everyone to be
very clear on this. More people got COVID early who
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were at risk because they made up these stupid ideas
that people thought protected them. Don't go outside, stay six
feet away. Let's every single person go into one house
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of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show gets going
right now, Thanks for being with us. The Friday big story,
of course, was the Martha's Vineyard migrant situation and they're
already gone. They removed, dare I say, deported from the
island and moved to Cape cod by the military. Now,
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somehow that's fine. But offering them a free flight to
an idyllic, crime relatively crime free paradise of Martha's Vineyard
where the average home costs over a million dollars, that
was human smuggling, human traffic, aim and libs. They were
in a penny, you could tell because of how stupid
their criticisms of this were. Governor Santis making a lot
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of headway here and pointing out that this gets them
mobilized much more in this Biden White House than the
five million illegals who have flooded the country while Biden
was president. When I heard that the president is scrambling
to get his cabinet together to try to address the
fact that you have governors who are helping to relocate
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illegal aliens to sanctuary cities. Now, he didn't scramble to
get his cabinet together when we had millions of people
illegally pouring across the southern border. He didn't scramble to
get his cabinet together when you had fifty three migrants
die in some trailer in Texas because they were neglected
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by the federal government. It's only when you have fifty
illegal aliens end up in a very wealthy, rich sanctuary
enclave that he decides to scramble on this. I mean it.
It is a very interesting comparison, I think, I think
a very important one. That about fifty people die of
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asphyxiation illegal migrants in a truck because of the massive
smuggling operations going on. Media talked about that for a
few hours, then moved on to something else. Fifty migrants
perfectly safe, healthy, fine, everything's fine, just given a free
flight to Martha's vineyard. And all of a sudden, the
Libs realize their hypocrisy is being exposed, although they don't
really care about hypocrisy. I always tell everybody this, and
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there's a national emergency. The mayor of DC, I mean,
just so ever understands. The mayor of New York, the
mayor of DC, the mayor of Chicago have all complained
about the illegal migrants coming into their cities as a
result of the buses or flights paid for by other states.
Here is DC's Mayor, Muriel Bowser. We're not a board
of town we don't have an infrastructure to handle this
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type of a level of immigration to our city. But
will will create a new normal here in our infrastructure
and have a humane welcome for people and an efficient
you know, service prohibision. But we don't have the ability
or not Texas, okay, kick click. First of all, this
idea that border towns have the ability, well, this is
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not about processing migrants when they first enter the country illegally.
That's a border patrol issue and an ice issue. This
is where do they go to live inside the United
States along the border. A lot of them stay there
for a period of time or stay close to the border.
There's no special reason McCallan, Texas doesn't have some special
plan in place. El Paso, Texas doesn't have some special
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plan in place to deal with the flood of migrants.
That her analysis would make sense if suddenly a team
of Haitians was arriving on the Potomac River to enter
into the United States for the first time, right, that
would be analogous because suddenly you have to process all
of these ely goal immigrants and associated aspects with that.
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It's not what's going on at all. What is going
on is it takes a pen prick of the people
illegally crossing the border. And as we are speaking to
you today, there will be eight thousand people who will
enter in illegally on average right now every single day
between now and when the election takes place in fifty days.
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Probably will taper off some in the winter, as typically
happens as the weather changes, and then it typically kicks
up again in the spring, running into the summer all
over again. And as you pointed out, Buck, and we've
said on this show for some time, over five million
illegals we believe have entered into the country since Joe
Biden became president, including over two million in the last
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year along the border. These numbers are out of control.
And the only way that the border gets talked about
in any way is if there are illegal immigrants being
shipped to why in DC, New York City, Chicago, and
now Martha's Vineyard. And I believe what should happen is
they should put these illegal immigrants on airplanes and fly
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them into the wokest enclaves in the United States, the bluest,
the most left wing, and let people understand what is
occurring in Texas and Arizona. And what I would say
to you Buck, speaking of the election, Carry Lake is surging,
and I don't know if you saw this poll that
came out on She's now got I believe it was
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a four point lead in the state of Arizona. Week
Casters is right on the edge with Mark right there
with Mark Kelly. And obviously we believe Greg Abbott's gonna
win comfortably. I think Dallas Morning News had him up
eight or nine points in Texas Overbados. Still need people
to vote in all those things, but there's a lot
of those border race elections in Texas and an Arizona
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Buck that I think are going to get decided to
a large degree because of our failures at the border.
I think Blake Masters has a great chance, Carrie Lake's
gonna Abbot's gonna win. The Myra Floresque contingent down along
the border, I think has a very good chance to
win as well, just based on border security. And it's
it's amazing to see the way that this completely upended.
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I mean this this through the the liab apparatus, the
Democrat Biden regime into a panic, and it's really just
because people see what's going on. You're not supposed to
know about the illegal flows into these communities, and so
when it becomes visible, when it is a because there's
there are millions of illegals in places like in the
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in the total, places like New York and Los Angeles
and Chicago. I mean there are literally millions of illegal
aliens already living in those places. But when there is
an awareness of the daily influx of more and more
and more, and by the way, those numbers are over decades.
The Biden administration has done five million in two years.
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It is the public awareness of what's happening that is
the political risk for Democrats. That's why they're freaking out
about this. And also the fact that turns out when
you have an area that the Democrats are used to
being not so diverse, very wealthy, and a place that
they go to get away from crime, Libs go to
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get away from this. Nattucket, the Hampton's, the Vineyard, you know, Malibu, California,
the Delaware Shore by the way, for DC, the Maryland
and Delaware Shore is full of the DC elites, you know,
by the way, to your point, I think those places.
Delaware is supposed to be next, but it needs to
be not just you know, not dropping them off in Wilmington.
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There should be bus loads of illegal migrants dropped off
in in the fancy beach town where Biden has his home.
I mean there should be people rehobo bea. Yeah, they
should have people dropped there, so there's an awareness of this.
But I thought this is funny too, Clay that the
CNN headline, I'm sure you saw this this, I'm reading
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the headline, they enriched US migrants forty four hour visit
leaves indelible mark on Martha's vineyard. They panic, they get
them out as soon as possible. They're like, oh my gosh,
we don't have the resources for this, and then they
start writing self k this was at CNN self congratulatory.
See how welcoming and great we are, and wow, what
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an amazing impact they had on us for the one
day we let them live on our island lives. Their kryptonite,
i'm telling you, is mockery everybody. Hypocrisy, Yes, that's a
constant with them, but mockery of their lunacy is critical.
They hate when their intelligence is questioned. And let me
just hit you with this, Why the Martha's Vineyard. I
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think crystallized for so many people out there. Left wingers
have been taking a free ride virtue signaling woke policies
without having to cash any checks predicated on what they
are endorsing. And let me explain what I mean that
defund the police overwhelmingly the province of woke white people
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who do not have to live in communities that are besieged,
typically by crime. Open borders. Oh, you love the idea
of illegal immigrants and open borders and people being able
to go wherever they want until the consequences of open
borders come to where you are. Think about shutting down schools,
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remote work. All of these policies that have been advocated
by woke white people are a disaster for average people
in America. Most people aren't fortunate enough to be able
to shift from going to an office to working from
home and not have their protect productivity impacted. Most people
do not have the luxury of being able to put
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their kids in private school and hire expensive tutors while
lecturing all of us about the importance of shutting down
schools to keep kids safe. Same thing when it comes
to border security, same thing when it comes to crime.
Democrats are overwhelmingly the party of woke white people. Right now,
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Woke white people drive almost every policy that Democrats are
putting into place. That's who I believe should be overwhelmingly
being attacked right now by Republicans. The least liked people
in America today are the woke white people who lecture
you on what jokes you can make, where your kids
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can go to school, whether your kids have to wear masks,
and they do it while looking down there, knows that
you claiming that they are loaded with virtue. And to me,
what Ronda Santis did on the Martha's Vineyard trip was
puncture that woke cocoon that surrounds all these super wealthy
people who claim that they're better than all of us.
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What are the I mean, I really want to ever
understand this, these migrants, the fifty Margarets and Martha's Vineyard
and the stuff the Libs were saying last week because
all this is human traffic. And Gavin Newsom, we should
talk about this. He's saying he's straight up running for
president if Biden doesn't, And we need to play the
audio of Biden suddenly saying, yeah, hey, maybe I don't,
maybe I'm not gonna run. So we'll come back into that.
Gavin Newsome, I dude, he is just endless ambition and shamelessness.
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So you know, trust me, if he can get a
lane to run for presidents, he will absolutely do it.
But he's trying to pick a fight with Governor Ron
De Santis over this, saying there should be an investigation
to kidnapping. These migrants were already let free into the
United States, they were already processed. They were given a
free ride to Martha's Vineyard. People are saying that they
were induced to go there under false pretenses. Give me
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a break. What are the false pretenses. It's gonna give
you a free flight to Martha's Vineyard? I mean, give
me a break. But also this notion that, and this
goes to what the DC mayor says, we don't have
the resources for this. What do they mean There's there's
plenty of that. They couldn't figure out fifty beds and
hot meals for fifty individual jewels for a few days
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on Martha's Vineyard. It seems very obvious to people watching this. No,
there's something else at work here. They don't want their
idyllic island to be a place that has to deal
with the social services costs and also just the changing
of their little society on the vineyard that would occur
if not just one migrant flight, but a lot of
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migrant flight showed up there, no doubt, And that's exactly
why the hypocrisy is punctured there. And we're gonna continue
to talk about this. But Gavin Newsom, who is leading
the charge for the woke White Brigade, is effectively letting
it be known. I even think he's putting pressure on
Joe Biden not to run and that he's going to
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absurd reality we are in the middle of right now,
and it comes to our economic situation. He is a
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Fox Business Network senior correspondent, Charles, appreciate you taking the
time to join us. What is going to happen with inflation?
And do you believe we're already in a recession? And
what might twenty twenty three look like as we continue
to move forward? How bad is it? Could it get worse?
Do you think it's going to get better? Take us
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into the economy as you see it. Well, I mean
this is kind of a tricky area right now. I
mean half of the market is saying we're gonna have
wicked inflation, and you know a lot of smart investors
are saying that dal's gonna you know, plummet another ten
thousand points, and then you see other people saying, yeah,
we'll get through this. Um. I will say this the Fed.
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If you take the Fed at its words, right, which
is we have to get inflation down to the target
two percent, that means they're gonna raise interest rates for
the probably, I mean definitely, this week, right, but probably
the next meeting and the meeting after that. So we're
gonna have three rate increases in a row. And if
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you take him at its word, and I mean your
own Powell, the Fed here, he's not gonna stop until
we get it under two percent. We already had two
quarters of negative GDP growth. Obviously, we still have decent employment,
so it's not it's not one of these sessions where
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employments falling off the cliff. But you you got some
you got some issues. Um, if he raises three times,
you know, and I think you know you already see
it in tech. You hear it on Wall Street that
they're talking about laos at the big banks because deal
flows down. You know, you might say, okay, that's the banks,
deal flows down. What is some guy working in a
factory care about that? Well, if deal flows down, that
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means big companies aren't refinancing, they're not expanding, they're cutting back, right,
So Wall Street processes those trades, so that that's a
sign that the economy is slowing. What do you think
about the housing market? By the way, Charlie, that too,
um Now, housing is is kind of a it's a
regional thing and you have to. I mean, if you
talk to people, they'll say, housing stock nationally is very low.
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So you know, even with the higher mortgage rates, right,
they've they've sort of they've essentially tripled, we won't have
an issue. M that said, you got to look at
it where the hotspots were jarring the pandemic. Um. Look
at Charleston, South Carolina, Look at Ashton, North Carolina, look
at Nashville, look at these places. You know they there's
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there's inventory there because they built a lot. So Um,
that could be an issue too. And as you know,
a lot of people have their wealth ope in the
markets and in their housing. Uh. Once are good about
housing if you don't. But if you don't buy it
on on leverage and borrowing too much. Um, it's a
physical asset. You know, you get to keep it. Uh.
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You can't really say that with a stock if if
you bought it at ten and it's down three you
know what I'm saying. So um, but all this is
factoring in, and all this will play out in the
next you will know in the next couple of months. Charles,
you said you were going to know in the next
couple of months. Do you have any confidence at confidence
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at all in Biden's team of economic advisors. Buck and
I talk sometimes, and we're not claiming to be savants
when it comes to economic knowledge, but it feels as
if the Democrat Party has completely sort of sort of
eviscerated any understanding or argument in favor of business, making
it increasingly difficult to believe that the Biden administration has
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the ability to get this thing back on the right track.
How would you assess his advisors? Well, you know, there's
two I mean, when you break it down, government has
two responses to the economy, right, it has fiscal policy
and monetary policy. Monetary policy is handled by the fit
that's the money supply. It tends to increase the money
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supply when we're in a recession, decrease it when we
have massive inflation, and even decrease it when we have
massive inflation, even as um we could be in a
recession because it's it's it's having inflation. See. The problem
is inflation is such a wicked tax on the working
class that you know, country's full apart when when people
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have to work three jobs just to you know, buy
the same hamburger that used to buy it with one
even if there's three jobs to be had, and that's
kind of it's not we're not quite there yet, but
that's a little bit what we're dealing with right now. Um,
So keep that in mind. The fiscal policy is different.
Fiscal is what comes out of the White House. And
the problem is that this the fiscal policy that we
have is so bizarre and so cockamaney. I mean, on
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one hand, it feeds inflation through massive amounts of spending,
and on the other hand, it restricts, it attacks businesses
through massive amounts of regulation. So if you were if
you were to say, you know, there's there's a Biden
administration doing what needs to be done to get us
out of recession, I would say, no, we're speaking of
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Charlie Gasparino, Fox News Business. Uh, and Charlie, I just
want to know what do you what do you think?
What are you looking for? If we see a headline
in the journal or over at Fox Business or or
anyone who's covering the markets and the economy more generally,
for the people listening to this, what's the oh it's
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time to down the hatches indicator? Is it just a
month of really bad job losses? Is it the market
just getting getting crushed. I mean, it already feels like
lately that's come pretty close to happen in a couple
of times, although not as bad as it's been in
the past. So what are the what are the worry
indicators that you might see here? If you see I
think it's a there's a combination of things. If the
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Fed comes out this week and says we're gonna hyper
interest rates, you know, one hundred basis points as opposed
to seventy five, you know that that would be something.
I don't think they're going to do that, but that
would be something because then they see something in the
numbers that says this inflation is just not going away,
and they gotta if there's something much worse than what
we know, even though what we know is not great, right,
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So that's one thing. The other thing is obviously employment
falling off, you know dramatically, uh, you know, and that
would be a problem. You know, job openings, you know,
decreasing and things like that. Then you then you know
people are preparing for a recession. You know, they see
the Titan credit, the Titan credit can and their businesses
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are pairing back. So those are the two things I
would look at. I don't think the Fed's going to
one hundred base point. They're going to seventy five probably,
but still that's not great. Again, look at the employment numbers.
That's they're going to be interesting, Charles. The FedEx number
seemed to have really shook the stock market because FedEx
sort of has its pulse on the overall national economic picture.
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I don't know if you saw Fred Smith, the founder
of FedEx, basically came out and said, we're in a
recession now, right, whatever it's called. And certainly we know
with two declining quarters that technically that is a rough
estimation of a recession. What are the FedEx numbers tell
us about where the market is, where it's going, and
how nervous based on what the CEO Fred Smith said
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about the economy, do you think people should be predicated
on that sort of knowledge? And I think I think
we are heading for a steeper recession than we have now.
That's me, okay, It just this is the somewhat calm
before the storm. Again, if you think the FED is
going to raise rates twice, we have a two percent
inflation target and we're at eight point three and not
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really going down. Well, then you know we're talking three
rate increases and they're gonna they're gonna slam the brakes
on the economy. I mean, think about where mortgage rights.
I was gonna ask you, Charlie, where do you think
mortgage rates could go? Well, there at six, now could
we see double digits? You could see ten? Wow, they
do three, three seventy five bases point increases. Then that
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makes homes a whole lot more expensive for people to
find in now. I mean if you have cash, and
not only by the way for Buck's question there, Charles,
there's then also a lot of people that might be
interested in moving that say, I've got a two and
a half two and three quarter percent interest rate locked in,
there's no way I even if I think I need
a bigger house because I had a new baby, or
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because we need to move to a better school district,
there's gonna be a whole lot of people sitting down
literally doing the math on this and saying it's hard
to give up a two and a half two and
three quarter percent mortgage or eight to even if you
feel like you need to move to a bigger home,
because that bite even at six, you're getting if you're
talking about potential double digits. I mean that is monstrous
to so many people. I know, it really is. So
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I think that's where we are with that. Yeah, I mean,
from from what I've seen it if basically, if you
were in the market based on the rating crease you've
already seen, if you could afford a half a million
dollar house before, now it's more like a house that's
two hundred and fifty k. If it was a two
hundred and fifty K house, now it's more like one
twenty five. Yeah, that's that's how recessions start, you know,
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just like that. And then you got so many people
who bought in at the peak. Right, if you bought
a year ago at the price, even though you might
have a good mortgage rate, the numbers might start coming
back on your house, which is what happened in OA.
I one think you Charlie also, which is that you
know Biden, he talks this big game about how, oh
you know Wall Street and the Republicans. Biden got more
money than anybody from Wall Street in history except for
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Barack Obama. Do you talk to these guys got sources
all over the street and people, it's really the financial
sector for everybody because no one really works. I mean,
very few people actually worked down on Wall Street anymore?
Um are do they have any buyer's remorse for their
for their love of Biden? In the last election, You
might have seen my interview with Larry Fink, who you
know runs black Rock, which has I mean there are
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black Rock executives all over the White House. He's got
deep ties to the Democratic Party, and he came out
and criticized Biden and the spending. What he was saying
is that he's spending as Jerome Powell needs to raise rates,
So what he's doing is stoking inflation, and probably the
worst type of inflation, not exactly you know, increase in
supply side, but just handing out money for people to
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spend at a time when Jerome Powell needs to decrease
the money supply essentially. So you know that's Larry Thinks
saying that. So, yeah, what happens if that just keeps going, right,
if we keep spending money, which we're doing unfortunately while
also trying to restrict spending, like what happens, it just
makes the FEDS jobs so much more. And that's why
people were talking about three rate increases. That's actually why
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people are talking about one hundred basis points, because the
Bide administration is working at odds, you know, engineering a
soft landing. And by the way, Jerome Powell's not you know,
it's complicit in this too. I mean, he kept printing money, money,
money for like, for way longer than we needed to.
We were coming out of the pandemic slowly. Surely the
vaccines kind of work. They didn't work, but you know,
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we were getting getting our sea legs back and people
were going back to work. We didn't need to, you know,
we didn't need monetary policy to match what the idiots
in Washington were doing on fiscal policy, you know, the spending.
Yet he kept doing it. So now he recognizes that
probably too much. He probably did it to get reappointed
by Biding, right, And now he has a job to
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engineer a soft landing. That means make sure the economy
doesn't slow so much we go into a steep procession.
Joe Biden is making that job a lot work. You
gotta tell us, Charlie, if the soft landing they're going
forward turns into the plane heading into the side of
the of of you know, the mountain and it's time
to start buying up land off the grid in belies.
(40:11):
You gotta let us know, all right, you uh, you know,
I still don't like buying in other countries. Yeah. One
thing about that important tip. I didn't know that interesting.
One thing that we have here is the rule of law.
Can you go to another country, you have currency risk,
you have legal risk. Uh. You know that's the one
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thing about this. You know, we sit around and you know,
I'm not a big fan of Joe Biden's economic policies,
but you know I'm not looking to leave. You know,
when I heard all those Democrats saying, oh, they want
to leave the country when Trump becomes president, was like
a you kidd, where you gonna go? We are We
are the best of the rest, no matter what happens here.
Fin actually a series whatever. Charlie Gasparino over Fox Fox News, Charlie,
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the Monday edition of the program. Trying to make sure
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that you're aware of all the bigger races that are
going on throughout the country, and one that has not
gotten as much attention as it should is taking place
out in Washington State where our next guest Tiffany Smiley
is running for the Senate against Patty Murray, longtime senator
from Washington, and Tiffany, we appreciate you calling in and
(42:19):
joining us here because we want to give you a
big aid to the best of our ability, big audience
listening to us right now in Seattle, all over the
state of Washington. You're in a really tight race. A
lot of people out there are like, wait, Washington's a
tight senate race. Can you tell us about yourself and
about your race to introduce it for people who might
not be aware of what's taking place out where you're running. Yes, well,
(42:43):
thank you so much for having me on. This is
a very very important election. You know, I'm a nurse
and my life changed when I walked into my husband's
trauma care unit at Walter Reed Army Medical Center after
he had been blown up by a suicide car bomb
in Iraq. I resigned from my nursing job, took a
one way flight out to Walter Read and you know
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that began my fight. I had to stand up and
fight for my husband when he didn't have a voice,
he was in a coma. One thing was certain the
suicide bomber that detonated his car. The shrapnel from that
car obliterated both of his eyes, so my husband would
never ever see again. I took on the army. I
refused to sign his paperwork to retire him and transition
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him into the DA. I believed in a better path,
and I had this crazy idea, this wild idea that
perhaps a book blind officer could continue on active duty.
You know, the doctors looked at me like you're crazy,
missus smiley, like there's no way, but built coalition coalitions
who believed in that vision as well. My husband went
on and became the first blind active duty officer to
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ever serve our country. We served forever a decade with
him completely blind, and the nurse and me knew once
he was well, I went back and I made it right.
Still a lot of work to do, but I took
on the VA, took on big government. So I have
a track record of taking on big government and winning.
And that's exactly what I will do when I win
from all of Washington State this November. Tiffany, it's buck,
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thanks for joining us. What are you hoping to accomplish
if you do get to represent the state of Washington
in the Senate and what has been going on. I mean,
one thing we talk about a lot on this show
is I live in a blue state in New York.
I grew up here, I was born and raised here,
and there's been a major deterioration that has occurred here
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over the last three years, particularly the last two years
of the Biden administration. What are you seeing in Washington,
Washington State that people need to know about and what
do you want to do to change it? Yes, I
mean it's Washington State is such a beautiful, amazing state.
We are just under represented, and it's clear Patty Marie
and Joe Biden's policies are just throwing our livelihoods here.
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Just take crime, for example, the highest crime that we've
had in thirty years. Murray went on the Senate floor
of June of twenty twenty called for funds to be
diverted away from our police force. And then she went
into hiding. And what I'm hearing all over Washington States,
people are like, we haven't seen her. She hasn't been
around until she came out attacking you, Tiffany. You know,
two months prior to the primary in June, spending millions
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painting me as an extremist and trying to say that
I'm a threat to democracy a family that has served
in sacrifice for their country. I maybe it doesn't make
any sense where we have real problems on the grounds.
You know what we need to do, and I know
we can get to work right away on just the
basics of law and order. Right If our federal government
does anything, it's protection of the American people. So we
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need to prevent Title forty two from being lifted until
we have real border security. I've actually been to the border.
I don't know that Patty Murray ever has. Granted, I
was eleven years old when she was first elected, so
I'm not sure how they kept records back then, But
as of recent I don't think she's ever been to
the border. I was down there. I sought with my
own eyes buck. There were people crossing the river. We
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had cartel members yelling at us. I took a boat
right down the Rio grand I saw the wrist bands
with the different colors, you know, depending on what cartel
these these immigrants are paying money to. UM. I saw
the boats that they fill full of drugs, and it's
too easy. You just push it right across into stash
houses that are in the United States of America. So
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we have real issues. We need to secure the border,
we need to hold repeat offenders accountable. And something that
I can do at the federal level is also allow
law enforcement agencies to use federal grant dollars and offer
five thousand dollars in hiring and retention bonuses. We need
good officers, we need them now, especially in Washington States.
And it's not just you know, crimes, not just having
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a public safety effect, having a massive economic effect here
on our small businesses. We've seen Starbucks shutter doors here
in Washington State. Amazon moved to their offices. Um smaller
you know, mom and pop shots shops are moving out
because they're there's no accountability. Patty murray soft on crime
agenda is destroying our beautiful stay. I will stand up
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in fight and be a voice for all of Washington.
We're talking to Teffany Smiley. A poll came out for
people out there nationwide, certainly in Washington as well. At
the very beginning of this month from the Trafalgar Group
had Patty Murray at forty nine, you at forty six.
I think, as you mentioned, she's starting to get a
little bit nervous. She's been attacking you more aggressively. That's
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a three point margin right now. We've got a monster
audience listening to us right now in Seattle, also in Spokane, Washington,
our affiliate by the way, in Spokane KQU and T
appreciate everybody out there who's listening. You're gonna have one
debate against against the Murray right. I believe his schedule
because I don't think she'll debate you anymore. You can
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tell us about that. But also why can I talk
a lot about Seattle and how beautiful of a city
it is, yes, and how Democrat policies have really attacked
the vibrancy and vitality of what should be a jewel
of the Pacific Northwest. What are you hearing from people
in the Seattle area who may have been traditional Democrats
about why they're listening to you? And what do you
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expect to see in that debate? Do you think she's
going to still try and run and hide from her record. Yeah,
you know you are so right on Seattle. It's a
shame of what has happened. Patty Murray is destroying our
city and our state. And you know what I hear
is you know, the infrastructure bill. People are talking about
that that's a big deal here in Washington State, and
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you know, suburban moms are saying, that's great that we
got the infrastructure bill, so I, you know, could go
through the tunnel and know that I'll be safe. But
they say, what's the point If I don't even feel
safe getting out of my car in Seattle or letting
my kids run around, what's the point? Like I said,
the bare minimum the federal government could do for us
is protect our citizens law and order, and Patty Murray
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soft on crime. She's non existent. She doesn't even talk
about these issues. And we haven't even gone into the
cost of living in the rising grocery prices in Washington
State either. So this is what's on the ballot this November.
These aren't Democrat or Republican issues. These are American issues.
These are livelihood issues. And when we talk about debates
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she has Patty Murray's drug raphy, it's almost like she's
annoyed that I Am forcing her to be accountable to
the voters. You know, she's done them for thirty years.
She hasn't really had a real race, and that's why
I know that we can win because I've been listening
to voters in all thirty nine counties. I have been
all over Washington State and back again, and we will
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continue to do that all the way through November. She
has drug her feet on the debates. She finally agreed
to one debate, but I want to be clear that
that is after ballot's drop, which I think is an
insult to the voters here in Washington State. It's actually
a pattern too in Pennsylvania. Fetterman wants people start voting
before they actually hear them on the debate. State Claire,
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you got something though, Yeah, No, I was just gonna
say you mentioned suburban moms. There's a lot of swing
voters out there. I've got a fourteen year old, and
twelve year old and eight year old. I believe you
have multiple kids yourself. Yes, what are you hearing from
moms and what do you want for your own kids?
You talked about the work that you did for your husband.
What are you seeing for your kids in their schools?
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And hearing from Washington parents. You know we are winning
the messaging war here. We with Patty Murray, we are
the campaign for the parents. Most recently, you know, Patty
Murray doubled down. She was asked, given what we know
now with the plummeting test scores, the childhood anxiety and
self harm that's on the rise, you know, do you
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have any regrets about how you handled the pandemic? And
she doubled down and pretty much said no, that they
followed this science and they did what was right. Well,
you're talking about a state here in Washington where our
kids were shuttered out of school for over a year
and a half, my three boys included. I saw the effects.
I've talked to the parents about this. This is wrong,
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and Patty Murray supported it and doubled down on it.
I you know, so I have an agenda for education
reform here in Washington State. We need to expand school choice,
promote curriculum transparency, and we also need to create an
expand K through twelve STEM education programs. College is not
for everyone, you know, I mentioned the infrastructure bill talking
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to contractors all over Washington State. Their apprentice programs are empty.
And you know, Patty Murray sh ran as the mom
in tennis shoes. She was going to fight for our
education and fight for our kids. She's done nothing to
that court. I mean, look at where we're at now.
So that's that's how I know will win because these
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parents who who have watched their kids suffer here in
Washington State, they know that there has to be leadership.
This isn't about political This is about being a leader,
someone who will go do what's right and fight for
their kids. And we're on the right side of the
message for it. Patty Murray, you know again doubles down
with her DC. She's doing what's right for DC, She's
(52:09):
doing what's right for Joe Biden. Yeah, it sounds like
she's focused on the other Washington tiffany where. You know,
we've got people listening all across your state right now,
including on our Seattle affiliate kpt R ten ninety and
Spokane KQUNT and others. Where can they go to help out,
to learn more, to donate, Yes, thank you so much.
(52:31):
Anyone can join us in this effort. You can sign
up to volunteer contribute to our campaign so we can
continue to share a winning message through November. Smiley for
Washington dot com all spelled out Smiley for Washington dot
com and I look forward to meeting you on the
trail seeing you out there. It is time to stand
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up and fight for our children. You know we's mentioned
my children. I want the American dream for them. You know,
our family is living proof that's this country is great
because all we needed was a hand up, not a handout.
And that's what I want for my children, for their
future in this country, for generations to come. Tiffany Smiley,
thank you so much for being with us on clan Buck.
Appreciate it. Thanks, thanks guys. Hopefully she can give a
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Monday edition of the program. We hope all of you
had fantastic weekends wherever you may be across this great country.
We are rolling, i believe today, fifty days until the
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mid term. Buck, we'll get into some of the latest
polling numbers, some of the latest odd shifting where are
things moving? But Joe Biden hadn't done an actual interview
in over two hundred days, I believe was the number.
An unprecedented amount of days to not sit down and
(00:42):
do a one on one interview sixty minutes. As many
of you out there who watch NFL football knows, makes
a ton of money and viewership off their show coming
on immediately after the NFL ends on CBS many different weekends,
and that was the case with the debut episode of
(01:02):
their new season, and it featured a long form interview
with President Joe Biden and Buck. As is often the case,
the more Biden talks, the worse it goes for him.
His approval ratings went up when he got COVID and
when he spent a month on vacation during the summer.
Since he's come back and started talking, his numbers haven't
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gone down, and now the left wing of his own
party is angry at him. There were a lot of
news related comments from Biden because he doesn't talk to
the media that much, but let's start with this one.
He said, the COVID pandemic is over. This was last
night on sixty Minutes. I want you to listen this
president first Detroit auto show in three years. Yeah, is
(01:48):
the pandemic over? The pandemic is over. We still have
a problem with COVID. We're still doing a lot of
work on it, but the pandemic is over. If you notice,
no one's wearing masks. Everybody's being pretty good shape. He
was wearing masks outside alone two years, two weeks ago, Clay,
for two years, they've been wearing masks. Two weeks ago,
(02:11):
he was wearing a mask. I saw people this morning
on the street in New York City, and I saw
more than just that. We'll talk about that later, wearing masks.
What changed between now and then, Oh, there's an election come,
They're really gonna do this right now, They're gonna do
the whole We're gonna tell everybody everything's great and hope
that they're just foolish enough to believe the propaganda. Clay.
(02:36):
They fired eight hundred and fifty teachers last week in
New York City where I am right now. Who could
justify this? They fired them for not getting the vaccine everybody.
They fired almost a thousand employees of the City of
New York last week because they won't get a shot.
And it's up to nearly two thousand I think teachers
in total total, but they just did eight fifty four.
(02:58):
I mean, it's way a fire people a year ago
was stupid and unfair. Find people now is just monstrous
and vindictive. I mean, this is completely insane. Why isn't
Joe Biden asked about that? Where is Mayor Eric Adams,
who is a total catastrophe, by the way, a buffoon,
an imbecile. Where is he on this issue? It's a
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great question. And what I found most interesting about Biden's
comment there, for anyone who has a functional brain and
looked at the data, COVID was over by the summer
of twenty twenty, and I know a lot of you
out there feel the same way that you knew what
the dangers were that you knew what you might need
to do depending on your individual health concerns. But basically
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the data has continued to reflect if you're under the
age of fifty, you were never in any sort of
danger from COVID at all. You were far more likely,
for instance, under fifty, to die driving to and from
your office than you were to die with COVID. And
certainly if you're a kid, the fact that we required
kids to wear masks at all. But Buck, what I
found most interesting about this was not Joe Biden saying
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it because I agree with you. I think it's a
ploy to try to look like he's accomplished something as
we get ready for the mid terms. Because remember the
premise upon which Biden ran was twofold, I'll solve COVID,
I'll end COVID, and that whatever has not happened, really
And he also said I'll restore normalcy and decency to
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the White House. That certainly hasn't happened either. But on
the COVID front, Buck, there's about thirty percent, twenty five
percent maybe of the American public, and they are wildly
overrepresented on social media and certainly way overrepresented in the
Blue Check brigade on Twitter that are furious at Joe
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Biden for saying the COVID pandemic is over. I mean,
it was just trending last night. Number one trend was
COVID is not over, and they were ripping Joe Biden
for saying this. You know what this has really shown us.
They're so many different aspects of the of the COVID fauciite,
locked down or panic mentality. But one part of this
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that I think now you can see very clearly is
that the same people who are addicted to victimization COVID
is victimizing them. Oh my gosh, COVID. I'm always so scared.
I have long COVID. I need four masks. I'm immunocompromise.
Have you ever, by the way, I actually have an
immune disorder, which is ciliac disease. I've never heard so
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many people in my life running around dudo. Oh, I
I need everyone to wear a mask because I'm immunocompromise. Like,
you're twenty five years old and you've never said this
to anybody before, and you're a Blue Check and now
you're a Oh, now you're suspiciously somebody who's what the vulnerable,
The vulnerable people, you know, always vulnerable, people who were old,
people were overweight, people with severe health issues who are
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old and overweight. Everybody else is pretty much fine, okay.
And the fact that we're still walking around listening to
people wide about this, it's what you're really seeing. The
same people who think it's it's a horrible catastrophe if
everyone doesn't announce their pronouns, you know, are the people
who are now saying, oh, the pandemic, I'm so scared
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of it all the time. Perpetual victimhood. They're addicted to it,
and COVID is an opportunity to play the victim for
them forever, by the way, forever. Yeah. I think one
of the primary impacts of social media is it fetishized victimhood. Buck,
I'm old enough to remember, and you're old enough to remember,
even though you're still a very young man. Am I
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old enough to remem Clay? You gotta be careful? Would
you use that construct? I don't know. When we were kids.
I'm betting you were taught the same thing that I was.
You never wanted to be a victim. If someone bullied you,
you stood up to the bully. And there's that great
scene if you want to sort of use it as
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an epitomization of this Christmas story, you know, when Ralphie
confronts the bully and after getting picked on, picked on,
picked on, finally he just turns on the bully and
beats him up. I mean, that's one of the iconic
scenes in a marriage. I thought you were gonna go
with Marty McFly's dad when he knocks out the bully
at prom. It's like, one of the most inspiring moments
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of my young life was seeing that guy get laid
out on the car. What would happen now is you
would go to your teacher. You would say, oh, somebody's
being really mean to you. You would go home, your
mom would sit you down on the couch. They would
take a TikTok video. They would put the TikTok video
up on social media. It would go viral, and for
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being a victim, you would be fetishized that there would
be a great amount of outpouring of emotional support because
of people being mean to you. And look, I wish
bullying didn't exist. I wish there weren't bad things in
the world, but we have taught an entire generation of kids,
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and they certainly are coming of age on social media
that being a victim is a point of pride. That
if someone is mean to you and you gives you
passial media and talk about its powerful. This is why
they this is why the COVID lunatics love this. It's oh,
you have to mask, you have to do this because
I said so, because I'm at risk. Yeah, and and
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and buck. I mean, I keep coming back to stories
like Jesse Smallett and the BYU volleyball the duke volleyball
player at BYU, because this is the natural outgrowth of that.
People who aren't even victims now are so in love
with the idea of being a victim that they either
make it up whole cloth like Jesse Smallett did, or
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they maybe best case scenario, if you're being really charitable
to this duke volleyball player, she thought she heard racial
slurs when they weren't actually there because she's so conditioned
to believe that she's a victim, and then she goes
on social media and everybody praises her. And so this
to me, like the COVID, it's a good connection by you.
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This COVID fearmongering, the fear porn as I've caused called
it for a couple of years. These people are not
going to let go. And I really wonder how does
the Biden administration, even if it's just for politics that
he says COVID is over, how do they manage to
convince the thirty percent or forty percent of the Democrat
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base that will not give this up? How do they
convince them to go back to normal? I just know
whw they do. Obviously, today we're going to talk about
the Martha's Vineyard migrant debacle and the following of that,
and inflation and Biden's inflation, and so we got Charlie
Gasparino from Fox joining to talk about that. I mean,
we're going to tackle all these issues of border economy,
everything else. But why do we keep hammering COVID. We
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keep telling everybody about this because we have enough people
listening in states that are up for grabs that if
this audience mobilizes on that issue at the polling place
when they're actually voting, there can be some accountability. But
also we can stop this. The Biden administration still wants
to bring back the federal mask mandate as a tool
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they can turn on and turn off for people who
think this is all done. To your point about the
thirty or forty percent of hysteric meltdown, Lib Democrat basic
cost a lot to wing out there. By the way,
it's what's amazing to me too, is that they're actually
not seeing your citizens. Senior citizens have a perspective on life.
They understand. They're the ones that I see freaking out
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are aged twenty five to forty five. Particularly, you know,
those are which have zero risk, zero risk. So they
just love this. They love the attention and love the
power off. You have to do this because I say so,
they're going to try to downplay this place. Why Biden
just said, oh, the pandemic's over, because first of all,
promises made, promises kept with the pandemic is going to
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be something they try to say. By the way, do
you think this was planned or do you think he
just stepped all over himself and said this. I think
it's I think biden Ology. The analysis of Biden is
made effectively impossible to do with precision because it's tough
to know whether it's mostly he's stupid, which he is,
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mostly nasty, which he is mostly lying, or it's a
function of his age in dementia. It's you can never
really tell which of those is the primary factor, I think.
So to your point about what he's saying in this speech,
I don't know, man. I mean, there's plenty of reasons
why Joe Biden says crazy stuff that's untrue, that goes
off the rails. And I think obviously a lot of
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people listening would say, well, buckets. I agree, it's all
of those things. I'm just saying to put it on one.
You know, is it because he's a little bit out
of it today, is he sundowning? Or is it because
he's in a foul mood because he's a nasty guy.
But Clay, they're going to just bring it back to
why we have to remind everybody about They just fired
eight hundred and fift people from New York last week.
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Some of them not a lot, but some of them
probably listen to this show. Not a lot of teachers
in the New York City public schools system listeners, but some.
You know, they just fired people, and they're gonna bring
some of this stuff back if they can get away
with it, They're gonna dial it up a little bit
in the winter. As soon as the midterms are over,
they will. And we know because we've been telling you
for a couple of years now. The numbers will likely
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go up for COVID like they do for cold and
flu and have for generations in winter. So when everybody
goes inside and it's cold outside and you're not spending
as much time outdoors. Remember where they told everybody to
go indoors and not go outside, which is one of
the most ridiculous I just kind of just jumping one thing.
They actually made COVID worse. I want everyone to be
very clear on this. More people got COVID early who
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of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show gets going
right now, Thanks for being with us. The Friday big story,
of course, was the Martha's Vineyard migrant situation and they're
already gone. They removed, dare I say, deported from the
island and moved to Cape cod by the military. Now,
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somehow that's fine. But offering them a free flight to
an idyllic, crime relatively crime free paradise of Martha's Vineyard
where the average home costs over a million dollars, that
was human smuggling, human traffic, aim and libs. They were
in a penny, you could tell because of how stupid
their criticisms of this were. Governor Santis making a lot
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of headway here and pointing out that this gets them
mobilized much more in this Biden White House than the
five million illegals who have flooded the country while Biden
was president. When I heard that the president is scrambling
to get his cabinet together to try to address the
fact that you have governors who are helping to relocate
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illegal aliens to sanctuary cities. Now, he didn't scramble to
get his cabinet together when we had millions of people
illegally pouring across the southern border. He didn't scramble to
get his cabinet together when you had fifty three migrants
die in some trailer in Texas because they were neglected
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by the federal government. It's only when you have fifty
illegal aliens end up in a very wealthy, rich sanctuary
enclave that he decides to scramble on this. I mean it.
It is a very interesting comparison, I think, I think
a very important one. That about fifty people die of
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asphyxiation illegal migrants in a truck because of the massive
smuggling operations going on. Media talked about that for a
few hours, then moved on to something else. Fifty migrants
perfectly safe, healthy, fine, everything's fine, just given a free
flight to Martha's vineyard. And all of a sudden, the
Libs realize their hypocrisy is being exposed, although they don't
really care about hypocrisy. I always tell everybody this, and
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there's a national emergency. The mayor of DC, I mean,
just so ever understands. The mayor of New York, the
mayor of DC, the mayor of Chicago have all complained
about the illegal migrants coming into their cities as a
result of the buses or flights paid for by other states.
Here is DC's Mayor, Muriel Bowser. We're not a board
of town we don't have an infrastructure to handle this
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type of a level of immigration to our city. But
will will create a new normal here in our infrastructure
and have a humane welcome for people and an efficient
you know, service prohibision. But we don't have the ability
or not Texas, okay, kick click. First of all, this
idea that border towns have the ability, well, this is
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not about processing migrants when they first enter the country illegally.
That's a border patrol issue and an ice issue. This
is where do they go to live inside the United
States along the border. A lot of them stay there
for a period of time or stay close to the border.
There's no special reason McCallan, Texas doesn't have some special
plan in place. El Paso, Texas doesn't have some special
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plan in place to deal with the flood of migrants.
That her analysis would make sense if suddenly a team
of Haitians was arriving on the Potomac River to enter
into the United States for the first time, right, that
would be analogous because suddenly you have to process all
of these ely goal immigrants and associated aspects with that.
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It's not what's going on at all. What is going
on is it takes a pen prick of the people
illegally crossing the border. And as we are speaking to
you today, there will be eight thousand people who will
enter in illegally on average right now every single day
between now and when the election takes place in fifty days.
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Probably will taper off some in the winter, as typically
happens as the weather changes, and then it typically kicks
up again in the spring, running into the summer all
over again. And as you pointed out, Buck, and we've
said on this show for some time, over five million
illegals we believe have entered into the country since Joe
Biden became president, including over two million in the last
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year along the border. These numbers are out of control.
And the only way that the border gets talked about
in any way is if there are illegal immigrants being
shipped to why in DC, New York City, Chicago, and
now Martha's Vineyard. And I believe what should happen is
they should put these illegal immigrants on airplanes and fly
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them into the wokest enclaves in the United States, the bluest,
the most left wing, and let people understand what is
occurring in Texas and Arizona. And what I would say
to you Buck, speaking of the election, Carry Lake is surging,
and I don't know if you saw this poll that
came out on She's now got I believe it was
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a four point lead in the state of Arizona. Week
Casters is right on the edge with Mark right there
with Mark Kelly. And obviously we believe Greg Abbott's gonna
win comfortably. I think Dallas Morning News had him up
eight or nine points in Texas Overbados. Still need people
to vote in all those things, but there's a lot
of those border race elections in Texas and an Arizona
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Buck that I think are going to get decided to
a large degree because of our failures at the border.
I think Blake Masters has a great chance, Carrie Lake's
gonna Abbot's gonna win. The Myra Floresque contingent down along
the border, I think has a very good chance to
win as well, just based on border security. And it's
it's amazing to see the way that this completely upended.
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I mean this this through the the liab apparatus, the
Democrat Biden regime into a panic, and it's really just
because people see what's going on. You're not supposed to
know about the illegal flows into these communities, and so
when it becomes visible, when it is a because there's
there are millions of illegals in places like in the
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in the total, places like New York and Los Angeles
and Chicago. I mean there are literally millions of illegal
aliens already living in those places. But when there is
an awareness of the daily influx of more and more
and more, and by the way, those numbers are over decades.
The Biden administration has done five million in two years.
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It is the public awareness of what's happening that is
the political risk for Democrats. That's why they're freaking out
about this. And also the fact that turns out when
you have an area that the Democrats are used to
being not so diverse, very wealthy, and a place that
they go to get away from crime, Libs go to
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get away from this. Nattucket, the Hampton's, the Vineyard, you know, Malibu, California,
the Delaware Shore by the way, for DC, the Maryland
and Delaware Shore is full of the DC elites, you know,
by the way, to your point, I think those places.
Delaware is supposed to be next, but it needs to
be not just you know, not dropping them off in Wilmington.
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There should be bus loads of illegal migrants dropped off
in in the fancy beach town where Biden has his home.
I mean there should be people rehobo bea. Yeah, they
should have people dropped there, so there's an awareness of this.
But I thought this is funny too, Clay that the
CNN headline, I'm sure you saw this this, I'm reading
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the headline, they enriched US migrants forty four hour visit
leaves indelible mark on Martha's vineyard. They panic, they get
them out as soon as possible. They're like, oh my gosh,
we don't have the resources for this, and then they
start writing self k this was at CNN self congratulatory.
See how welcoming and great we are, and wow, what
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an amazing impact they had on us for the one
day we let them live on our island lives. Their kryptonite,
i'm telling you, is mockery everybody. Hypocrisy, Yes, that's a
constant with them, but mockery of their lunacy is critical.
They hate when their intelligence is questioned. And let me
just hit you with this, Why the Martha's Vineyard. I
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think crystallized for so many people out there. Left wingers
have been taking a free ride virtue signaling woke policies
without having to cash any checks predicated on what they
are endorsing. And let me explain what I mean that
defund the police overwhelmingly the province of woke white people
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who do not have to live in communities that are besieged,
typically by crime. Open borders. Oh, you love the idea
of illegal immigrants and open borders and people being able
to go wherever they want until the consequences of open
borders come to where you are. Think about shutting down schools,
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remote work. All of these policies that have been advocated
by woke white people are a disaster for average people
in America. Most people aren't fortunate enough to be able
to shift from going to an office to working from
home and not have their protect productivity impacted. Most people
do not have the luxury of being able to put
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their kids in private school and hire expensive tutors while
lecturing all of us about the importance of shutting down
schools to keep kids safe. Same thing when it comes
to border security, same thing when it comes to crime.
Democrats are overwhelmingly the party of woke white people. Right now,
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Woke white people drive almost every policy that Democrats are
putting into place. That's who I believe should be overwhelmingly
being attacked right now by Republicans. The least liked people
in America today are the woke white people who lecture
you on what jokes you can make, where your kids
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can go to school, whether your kids have to wear masks,
and they do it while looking down there, knows that
you claiming that they are loaded with virtue. And to me,
what Ronda Santis did on the Martha's Vineyard trip was
puncture that woke cocoon that surrounds all these super wealthy
people who claim that they're better than all of us.
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What are the I mean, I really want to ever
understand this, these migrants, the fifty Margarets and Martha's Vineyard
and the stuff the Libs were saying last week because
all this is human traffic. And Gavin Newsom, we should
talk about this. He's saying he's straight up running for
president if Biden doesn't, And we need to play the
audio of Biden suddenly saying, yeah, hey, maybe I don't,
maybe I'm not gonna run. So we'll come back into that.
Gavin Newsome, I dude, he is just endless ambition and shamelessness.
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So you know, trust me, if he can get a
lane to run for presidents, he will absolutely do it.
But he's trying to pick a fight with Governor Ron
De Santis over this, saying there should be an investigation
to kidnapping. These migrants were already let free into the
United States, they were already processed. They were given a
free ride to Martha's Vineyard. People are saying that they
were induced to go there under false pretenses. Give me
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a break. What are the false pretenses. It's gonna give
you a free flight to Martha's Vineyard? I mean, give
me a break. But also this notion that, and this
goes to what the DC mayor says, we don't have
the resources for this. What do they mean There's there's
plenty of that. They couldn't figure out fifty beds and
hot meals for fifty individual jewels for a few days
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on Martha's Vineyard. It seems very obvious to people watching this. No,
there's something else at work here. They don't want their
idyllic island to be a place that has to deal
with the social services costs and also just the changing
of their little society on the vineyard that would occur
if not just one migrant flight, but a lot of
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migrant flight showed up there, no doubt, And that's exactly
why the hypocrisy is punctured there. And we're gonna continue
to talk about this. But Gavin Newsom, who is leading
the charge for the woke White Brigade, is effectively letting
it be known. I even think he's putting pressure on
Joe Biden not to run and that he's going to
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absurd reality we are in the middle of right now,
and it comes to our economic situation. He is a
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Fox Business Network senior correspondent, Charles, appreciate you taking the
time to join us. What is going to happen with inflation?
And do you believe we're already in a recession? And
what might twenty twenty three look like as we continue
to move forward? How bad is it? Could it get worse?
Do you think it's going to get better? Take us
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into the economy as you see it. Well, I mean
this is kind of a tricky area right now. I
mean half of the market is saying we're gonna have
wicked inflation, and you know a lot of smart investors
are saying that dal's gonna you know, plummet another ten
thousand points, and then you see other people saying, yeah,
we'll get through this. Um. I will say this the Fed.
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If you take the Fed at its words, right, which
is we have to get inflation down to the target
two percent, that means they're gonna raise interest rates for
the probably, I mean definitely, this week, right, but probably
the next meeting and the meeting after that. So we're
gonna have three rate increases in a row. And if
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you take him at its word, and I mean your
own Powell, the Fed here, he's not gonna stop until
we get it under two percent. We already had two
quarters of negative GDP growth. Obviously, we still have decent employment,
so it's not it's not one of these sessions where
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employments falling off the cliff. But you you got some
you got some issues. Um, if he raises three times,
you know, and I think you know you already see
it in tech. You hear it on Wall Street that
they're talking about laos at the big banks because deal
flows down. You know, you might say, okay, that's the banks,
deal flows down. What is some guy working in a
factory care about that? Well, if deal flows down, that
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means big companies aren't refinancing, they're not expanding, they're cutting back, right,
So Wall Street processes those trades, so that that's a
sign that the economy is slowing. What do you think
about the housing market? By the way, Charlie, that too,
um Now, housing is is kind of a it's a
regional thing and you have to. I mean, if you
talk to people, they'll say, housing stock nationally is very low.
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So you know, even with the higher mortgage rates, right,
they've they've sort of they've essentially tripled, we won't have
an issue. M that said, you got to look at
it where the hotspots were jarring the pandemic. Um. Look
at Charleston, South Carolina, Look at Ashton, North Carolina, look
at Nashville, look at these places. You know they there's
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there's inventory there because they built a lot. So Um,
that could be an issue too. And as you know,
a lot of people have their wealth ope in the
markets and in their housing. Uh. Once are good about
housing if you don't. But if you don't buy it
on on leverage and borrowing too much. Um, it's a
physical asset. You know, you get to keep it. Uh.
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You can't really say that with a stock if if
you bought it at ten and it's down three you
know what I'm saying. So um, but all this is
factoring in, and all this will play out in the
next you will know in the next couple of months. Charles,
you said you were going to know in the next
couple of months. Do you have any confidence at confidence
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at all in Biden's team of economic advisors. Buck and
I talk sometimes, and we're not claiming to be savants
when it comes to economic knowledge, but it feels as
if the Democrat Party has completely sort of sort of
eviscerated any understanding or argument in favor of business, making
it increasingly difficult to believe that the Biden administration has
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the ability to get this thing back on the right track.
How would you assess his advisors? Well, you know, there's
two I mean, when you break it down, government has
two responses to the economy, right, it has fiscal policy
and monetary policy. Monetary policy is handled by the fit
that's the money supply. It tends to increase the money
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supply when we're in a recession, decrease it when we
have massive inflation, and even decrease it when we have
massive inflation, even as um we could be in a
recession because it's it's it's having inflation. See. The problem
is inflation is such a wicked tax on the working
class that you know, country's full apart when when people
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have to work three jobs just to you know, buy
the same hamburger that used to buy it with one
even if there's three jobs to be had, and that's
kind of it's not we're not quite there yet, but
that's a little bit what we're dealing with right now. Um,
So keep that in mind. The fiscal policy is different.
Fiscal is what comes out of the White House. And
the problem is that this the fiscal policy that we
have is so bizarre and so cockamaney. I mean, on
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one hand, it feeds inflation through massive amounts of spending,
and on the other hand, it restricts, it attacks businesses
through massive amounts of regulation. So if you were if
you were to say, you know, there's there's a Biden
administration doing what needs to be done to get us
out of recession, I would say, no, we're speaking of
(33:39):
Charlie Gasparino, Fox News Business. Uh, and Charlie, I just
want to know what do you what do you think?
What are you looking for? If we see a headline
in the journal or over at Fox Business or or
anyone who's covering the markets and the economy more generally,
for the people listening to this, what's the oh it's
(33:59):
time to down the hatches indicator? Is it just a
month of really bad job losses? Is it the market
just getting getting crushed. I mean, it already feels like
lately that's come pretty close to happen in a couple
of times, although not as bad as it's been in
the past. So what are the what are the worry
indicators that you might see here? If you see I
think it's a there's a combination of things. If the
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Fed comes out this week and says we're gonna hyper
interest rates, you know, one hundred basis points as opposed
to seventy five, you know that that would be something.
I don't think they're going to do that, but that
would be something because then they see something in the
numbers that says this inflation is just not going away,
and they gotta if there's something much worse than what
we know, even though what we know is not great, right,
(34:41):
So that's one thing. The other thing is obviously employment
falling off, you know dramatically, uh, you know, and that
would be a problem. You know, job openings, you know,
decreasing and things like that. Then you then you know
people are preparing for a recession. You know, they see
the Titan credit, the Titan credit can and their businesses
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are pairing back. So those are the two things I
would look at. I don't think the Fed's going to
one hundred base point. They're going to seventy five probably,
but still that's not great. Again, look at the employment numbers.
That's they're going to be interesting, Charles. The FedEx number
seemed to have really shook the stock market because FedEx
sort of has its pulse on the overall national economic picture.
(35:23):
I don't know if you saw Fred Smith, the founder
of FedEx, basically came out and said, we're in a
recession now, right, whatever it's called. And certainly we know
with two declining quarters that technically that is a rough
estimation of a recession. What are the FedEx numbers tell
us about where the market is, where it's going, and
how nervous based on what the CEO Fred Smith said
(35:45):
about the economy, do you think people should be predicated
on that sort of knowledge? And I think I think
we are heading for a steeper recession than we have now.
That's me, okay, It just this is the somewhat calm
before the storm. Again, if you think the FED is
going to raise rates twice, we have a two percent
inflation target and we're at eight point three and not
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really going down. Well, then you know we're talking three
rate increases and they're gonna they're gonna slam the brakes
on the economy. I mean, think about where mortgage rights.
I was gonna ask you, Charlie, where do you think
mortgage rates could go? Well, there at six, now could
we see double digits? You could see ten? Wow, they
do three, three seventy five bases point increases. Then that
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makes homes a whole lot more expensive for people to
find in now. I mean if you have cash, and
not only by the way for Buck's question there, Charles,
there's then also a lot of people that might be
interested in moving that say, I've got a two and
a half two and three quarter percent interest rate locked in,
there's no way I even if I think I need
a bigger house because I had a new baby, or
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because we need to move to a better school district,
there's gonna be a whole lot of people sitting down
literally doing the math on this and saying it's hard
to give up a two and a half two and
three quarter percent mortgage or eight to even if you
feel like you need to move to a bigger home,
because that bite even at six, you're getting if you're
talking about potential double digits. I mean that is monstrous
to so many people. I know, it really is. So
(37:11):
I think that's where we are with that. Yeah, I mean,
from from what I've seen it if basically, if you
were in the market based on the rating crease you've
already seen, if you could afford a half a million
dollar house before, now it's more like a house that's
two hundred and fifty k. If it was a two
hundred and fifty K house, now it's more like one
twenty five. Yeah, that's that's how recessions start, you know,
(37:33):
just like that. And then you got so many people
who bought in at the peak. Right, if you bought
a year ago at the price, even though you might
have a good mortgage rate, the numbers might start coming
back on your house, which is what happened in OA.
I one think you Charlie also, which is that you
know Biden, he talks this big game about how, oh
you know Wall Street and the Republicans. Biden got more
money than anybody from Wall Street in history except for
(37:56):
Barack Obama. Do you talk to these guys got sources
all over the street and people, it's really the financial
sector for everybody because no one really works. I mean,
very few people actually worked down on Wall Street anymore?
Um are do they have any buyer's remorse for their
for their love of Biden? In the last election, You
might have seen my interview with Larry Fink, who you
know runs black Rock, which has I mean there are
(38:19):
black Rock executives all over the White House. He's got
deep ties to the Democratic Party, and he came out
and criticized Biden and the spending. What he was saying
is that he's spending as Jerome Powell needs to raise rates,
So what he's doing is stoking inflation, and probably the
worst type of inflation, not exactly you know, increase in
supply side, but just handing out money for people to
(38:41):
spend at a time when Jerome Powell needs to decrease
the money supply essentially. So you know that's Larry Thinks
saying that. So, yeah, what happens if that just keeps going, right,
if we keep spending money, which we're doing unfortunately while
also trying to restrict spending, like what happens, it just
makes the FEDS jobs so much more. And that's why
people were talking about three rate increases. That's actually why
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people are talking about one hundred basis points, because the
Bide administration is working at odds, you know, engineering a
soft landing. And by the way, Jerome Powell's not you know,
it's complicit in this too. I mean, he kept printing money, money,
money for like, for way longer than we needed to.
We were coming out of the pandemic slowly. Surely the
vaccines kind of work. They didn't work, but you know,
(39:26):
we were getting getting our sea legs back and people
were going back to work. We didn't need to, you know,
we didn't need monetary policy to match what the idiots
in Washington were doing on fiscal policy, you know, the spending.
Yet he kept doing it. So now he recognizes that
probably too much. He probably did it to get reappointed
by Biding, right, And now he has a job to
(39:48):
engineer a soft landing. That means make sure the economy
doesn't slow so much we go into a steep procession.
Joe Biden is making that job a lot work. You
gotta tell us, Charlie, if the soft landing they're going
forward turns into the plane heading into the side of
the of of you know, the mountain and it's time
to start buying up land off the grid in belies.
(40:11):
You gotta let us know, all right, you uh, you know,
I still don't like buying in other countries. Yeah. One
thing about that important tip. I didn't know that interesting.
One thing that we have here is the rule of law.
Can you go to another country, you have currency risk,
you have legal risk. Uh. You know that's the one
(40:32):
thing about this. You know, we sit around and you know,
I'm not a big fan of Joe Biden's economic policies,
but you know I'm not looking to leave. You know,
when I heard all those Democrats saying, oh, they want
to leave the country when Trump becomes president, was like
a you kidd, where you gonna go? We are We
are the best of the rest, no matter what happens here.
Fin actually a series whatever. Charlie Gasparino over Fox Fox News, Charlie,
(40:52):
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the Monday edition of the program. Trying to make sure
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that you're aware of all the bigger races that are
going on throughout the country, and one that has not
gotten as much attention as it should is taking place
out in Washington State where our next guest Tiffany Smiley
is running for the Senate against Patty Murray, longtime senator
from Washington, and Tiffany, we appreciate you calling in and
(42:19):
joining us here because we want to give you a
big aid to the best of our ability, big audience
listening to us right now in Seattle, all over the
state of Washington. You're in a really tight race. A
lot of people out there are like, wait, Washington's a
tight senate race. Can you tell us about yourself and
about your race to introduce it for people who might
not be aware of what's taking place out where you're running. Yes, well,
(42:43):
thank you so much for having me on. This is
a very very important election. You know, I'm a nurse
and my life changed when I walked into my husband's
trauma care unit at Walter Reed Army Medical Center after
he had been blown up by a suicide car bomb
in Iraq. I resigned from my nursing job, took a
one way flight out to Walter Read and you know
(43:05):
that began my fight. I had to stand up and
fight for my husband when he didn't have a voice,
he was in a coma. One thing was certain the
suicide bomber that detonated his car. The shrapnel from that
car obliterated both of his eyes, so my husband would
never ever see again. I took on the army. I
refused to sign his paperwork to retire him and transition
(43:26):
him into the DA. I believed in a better path,
and I had this crazy idea, this wild idea that
perhaps a book blind officer could continue on active duty.
You know, the doctors looked at me like you're crazy,
missus smiley, like there's no way, but built coalition coalitions
who believed in that vision as well. My husband went
on and became the first blind active duty officer to
(43:46):
ever serve our country. We served forever a decade with
him completely blind, and the nurse and me knew once
he was well, I went back and I made it right.
Still a lot of work to do, but I took
on the VA, took on big government. So I have
a track record of taking on big government and winning.
And that's exactly what I will do when I win
from all of Washington State this November. Tiffany, it's buck,
(44:08):
thanks for joining us. What are you hoping to accomplish
if you do get to represent the state of Washington
in the Senate and what has been going on. I mean,
one thing we talk about a lot on this show
is I live in a blue state in New York.
I grew up here, I was born and raised here,
and there's been a major deterioration that has occurred here
(44:29):
over the last three years, particularly the last two years
of the Biden administration. What are you seeing in Washington,
Washington State that people need to know about and what
do you want to do to change it? Yes, I
mean it's Washington State is such a beautiful, amazing state.
We are just under represented, and it's clear Patty Marie
and Joe Biden's policies are just throwing our livelihoods here.
(44:55):
Just take crime, for example, the highest crime that we've
had in thirty years. Murray went on the Senate floor
of June of twenty twenty called for funds to be
diverted away from our police force. And then she went
into hiding. And what I'm hearing all over Washington States,
people are like, we haven't seen her. She hasn't been
around until she came out attacking you, Tiffany. You know,
two months prior to the primary in June, spending millions
(45:18):
painting me as an extremist and trying to say that
I'm a threat to democracy a family that has served
in sacrifice for their country. I maybe it doesn't make
any sense where we have real problems on the grounds.
You know what we need to do, and I know
we can get to work right away on just the
basics of law and order. Right If our federal government
does anything, it's protection of the American people. So we
(45:41):
need to prevent Title forty two from being lifted until
we have real border security. I've actually been to the border.
I don't know that Patty Murray ever has. Granted, I
was eleven years old when she was first elected, so
I'm not sure how they kept records back then, But
as of recent I don't think she's ever been to
the border. I was down there. I sought with my
own eyes buck. There were people crossing the river. We
(46:03):
had cartel members yelling at us. I took a boat
right down the Rio grand I saw the wrist bands
with the different colors, you know, depending on what cartel
these these immigrants are paying money to. UM. I saw
the boats that they fill full of drugs, and it's
too easy. You just push it right across into stash
houses that are in the United States of America. So
(46:24):
we have real issues. We need to secure the border,
we need to hold repeat offenders accountable. And something that
I can do at the federal level is also allow
law enforcement agencies to use federal grant dollars and offer
five thousand dollars in hiring and retention bonuses. We need
good officers, we need them now, especially in Washington States.
And it's not just you know, crimes, not just having
(46:44):
a public safety effect, having a massive economic effect here
on our small businesses. We've seen Starbucks shutter doors here
in Washington State. Amazon moved to their offices. Um smaller
you know, mom and pop shots shops are moving out
because they're there's no accountability. Patty murray soft on crime
agenda is destroying our beautiful stay. I will stand up
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in fight and be a voice for all of Washington.
We're talking to Teffany Smiley. A poll came out for
people out there nationwide, certainly in Washington as well. At
the very beginning of this month from the Trafalgar Group
had Patty Murray at forty nine, you at forty six.
I think, as you mentioned, she's starting to get a
little bit nervous. She's been attacking you more aggressively. That's
(47:28):
a three point margin right now. We've got a monster
audience listening to us right now in Seattle, also in Spokane, Washington,
our affiliate by the way, in Spokane KQU and T
appreciate everybody out there who's listening. You're gonna have one
debate against against the Murray right. I believe his schedule
because I don't think she'll debate you anymore. You can
(47:48):
tell us about that. But also why can I talk
a lot about Seattle and how beautiful of a city
it is, yes, and how Democrat policies have really attacked
the vibrancy and vitality of what should be a jewel
of the Pacific Northwest. What are you hearing from people
in the Seattle area who may have been traditional Democrats
about why they're listening to you? And what do you
(48:09):
expect to see in that debate? Do you think she's
going to still try and run and hide from her record. Yeah,
you know you are so right on Seattle. It's a
shame of what has happened. Patty Murray is destroying our
city and our state. And you know what I hear
is you know, the infrastructure bill. People are talking about
that that's a big deal here in Washington State, and
(48:33):
you know, suburban moms are saying, that's great that we
got the infrastructure bill, so I, you know, could go
through the tunnel and know that I'll be safe. But
they say, what's the point If I don't even feel
safe getting out of my car in Seattle or letting
my kids run around, what's the point? Like I said,
the bare minimum the federal government could do for us
is protect our citizens law and order, and Patty Murray
(48:56):
soft on crime. She's non existent. She doesn't even talk
about these issues. And we haven't even gone into the
cost of living in the rising grocery prices in Washington
State either. So this is what's on the ballot this November.
These aren't Democrat or Republican issues. These are American issues.
These are livelihood issues. And when we talk about debates
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she has Patty Murray's drug raphy, it's almost like she's
annoyed that I Am forcing her to be accountable to
the voters. You know, she's done them for thirty years.
She hasn't really had a real race, and that's why
I know that we can win because I've been listening
to voters in all thirty nine counties. I have been
all over Washington State and back again, and we will
(49:38):
continue to do that all the way through November. She
has drug her feet on the debates. She finally agreed
to one debate, but I want to be clear that
that is after ballot's drop, which I think is an
insult to the voters here in Washington State. It's actually
a pattern too in Pennsylvania. Fetterman wants people start voting
before they actually hear them on the debate. State Claire,
(50:00):
you got something though, Yeah, No, I was just gonna
say you mentioned suburban moms. There's a lot of swing
voters out there. I've got a fourteen year old, and
twelve year old and eight year old. I believe you
have multiple kids yourself. Yes, what are you hearing from
moms and what do you want for your own kids?
You talked about the work that you did for your husband.
What are you seeing for your kids in their schools?
(50:21):
And hearing from Washington parents. You know we are winning
the messaging war here. We with Patty Murray, we are
the campaign for the parents. Most recently, you know, Patty
Murray doubled down. She was asked, given what we know
now with the plummeting test scores, the childhood anxiety and
self harm that's on the rise, you know, do you
(50:43):
have any regrets about how you handled the pandemic? And
she doubled down and pretty much said no, that they
followed this science and they did what was right. Well,
you're talking about a state here in Washington where our
kids were shuttered out of school for over a year
and a half, my three boys included. I saw the effects.
I've talked to the parents about this. This is wrong,
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and Patty Murray supported it and doubled down on it.
I you know, so I have an agenda for education
reform here in Washington State. We need to expand school choice,
promote curriculum transparency, and we also need to create an
expand K through twelve STEM education programs. College is not
for everyone, you know, I mentioned the infrastructure bill talking
(51:27):
to contractors all over Washington State. Their apprentice programs are empty.
And you know, Patty Murray sh ran as the mom
in tennis shoes. She was going to fight for our
education and fight for our kids. She's done nothing to
that court. I mean, look at where we're at now.
So that's that's how I know will win because these
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parents who who have watched their kids suffer here in
Washington State, they know that there has to be leadership.
This isn't about political This is about being a leader,
someone who will go do what's right and fight for
their kids. And we're on the right side of the
message for it. Patty Murray, you know again doubles down
with her DC. She's doing what's right for DC, She's
(52:09):
doing what's right for Joe Biden. Yeah, it sounds like
she's focused on the other Washington tiffany where. You know,
we've got people listening all across your state right now,
including on our Seattle affiliate kpt R ten ninety and
Spokane KQUNT and others. Where can they go to help out,
to learn more, to donate, Yes, thank you so much.
(52:31):
Anyone can join us in this effort. You can sign
up to volunteer contribute to our campaign so we can
continue to share a winning message through November. Smiley for
Washington dot com all spelled out Smiley for Washington dot
com and I look forward to meeting you on the
trail seeing you out there. It is time to stand
(52:52):
up and fight for our children. You know we's mentioned
my children. I want the American dream for them. You know,
our family is living proof that's this country is great
because all we needed was a hand up, not a handout.
And that's what I want for my children, for their
future in this country, for generations to come. Tiffany Smiley,
thank you so much for being with us on clan Buck.
Appreciate it. Thanks, thanks guys. Hopefully she can give a
(53:18):
real charge to Washington area residents. We're rooting for it.
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