September 22, 2022 • 51 mins
An Adult Left Winger Kills a Teenage Right Winger and the Mainstream Media is Silent. JD Vance, Senate Candidate for Ohio, Takes it to Tim Ryan. Alex Berenson on Why Ted Cruz Was Right and Elmo Was Wrong. The Power of the Ultrasound Scares Stacey Abrams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We
had mentioned this before, and it's one of these stories
that is getting nowhere near the attention that it would
if the political affiliations, if the political reality was just
a little different. A North Dakota man obviously a Democrat
(00:25):
in this situation named Shannon Brandt called the North Dakota
Highway Patrol on Sunday saying that he had struck a
pedestrian in an alleyway in mckenry with his two thousand
and three Ford Explorer and what he really meant by
that is allegedly he used his car as a weapon
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and ran this individual, Kayler Ellingson, eighteen years old, down
murdered him with his car. That is the allegation. Brandt
claimed at the time that Elegson Ellingson was part of
a Republican extremist group. This is according to the Highway
Patrol report. What really happened here was, again from the
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police report, there was an argument over politics and this individual,
who is clearly left wing, Shannon Brandt, ran down this
eighteen year old and killed him. Allegedly in cold blood here.
I mean, that's saying this. Obviously there's a legal implications.
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You know, you have to always say until there's actually
a conviction. But Clay, we all understand that if this
were different, if a guy in a metaphorical or real
Maga hat had run down some Democrat, a Hillary voter
in his car because they had had an argument over politics,
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we would be told by CNN and MSNBC and The
New York Times that we need a national conversation about
the threat of maga extremism, white supremacy. Even the two
guys involved here, white doesn't matter, white supremacy, Maga extremism.
This is the political violence that they put right at
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the feet of Donald Trump himself. Joe Biden gave he
looked like the Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars. Yeah, that
theatrics around this, it did honestly look like Stalin was
giving a speech in the darkest days of the Soviet
Union when the purge was going on, and a couple
of weeks later this happens. Now the Left would connect
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those dots if the political affiliation was different. How many
people have even heard about the story, or more to
the point, how many have seen a major news network
other than Fox even touch on this story. Well, there's
a bunch of things here. First, you're a hundred percent
right because we know this one person I believe I'm correct, Buck,
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you can correct me if I'm wrong, died in Charlottesville,
and it was laid directly at Donald Trump's feet because
he had the audacity to come out and say, which
you go back and look at the transcript, that many
of the people, which he was correct, who were protesting
the removal of statues were right, and that this wasn't
going to end with Confederate statues and it would move
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on to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and even Abraham Lincoln.
He was one hundred percent right about that. What I
think it's fair to call woke history and the way
that it's being attributed, and the lie is why Joe
Biden ran for president. Just Woever, remember Joe Biden said
because based on that lie, the lie was that Trump
had called these Nazi protesters very fine people. He did not.
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He pointed out that there were very fine people on
both sides, which was accurate. He directly condemned neo Nazis
and everybody else you go look at the transcribe. This
is one of the great lies that was spread by
the media to attack Trump, so we know he was
held completely responsible for the death of I believe that
woman in Charlottesville. This story is receiving no attention to
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the New York Times, no attention at CNN, no attention
at the Washington Post. Okay, and frankly, we need to
get some answers from the North Dakota politicians about what
exactly is going on here, buck, because this guy was
only charged with vehicular homicide, which seems like a relatively
low charge, and he's out on bail fifty thousand dollars. Buck,
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All he had to post was fifty thousand dollars and
he's already out on bail now. Maybe, to be fair,
there are some details and circumstances surrounding this case that
are not yet public that would justify that being the case.
But this is a red state where a Republican supporter
was based on the details that are out right now,
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killed based on his politics. How in the world are
North Dakota politicians not speaking out about this, How is
the AG not speaking out, How is the governor not
speaking out? Aggressively. And how does a guy get a
vehicul or homicide charge for what appears to be an
intentional murder? And how does he get it? How is
he already back out on the streets for a fifty
(05:13):
thousand dollar bail. Now, again, I want to be clear.
If there are details in this case that are not
yet public that can explain that, we will share them
on this show. But Buck, I looked into this pretty aggressively.
I'm sure you have as well. I haven't seen anything
that would suggest this is anything other than what has
been reported so far. This is hate crime? Is another
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question we might want to pose for everybody killing somebody
over politics. It actually is something that the left would
argue is terrorism. They would say that this guy is
If he were a Republican who killed a Democrat over
a political fight, this would be labeled terrorism. It would
also be on the front page of the newspaper. It
would have been a lead story for multiple days. Maga extremism.
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How this is a natural result, no outgrowth of everything
that Trump has said. I mean, we're a country a
three hundred and thirty million people, although given all the
illegal immigration, who knows what the real number is, But
we're a country of three hundred and thirty million people
and one individual's actions should not be placed at the
feet of an entire political ideology. That is true. But
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the problem is the Democrats do that to us all
the time, every time, and even sometimes when there's somebody
who is in no way actually a conservative or a Republican,
but you know they had a couple of right leaning
views on something. You know, they believe in secure borders,
they're a terrorist, Oh my gosh, it's Donald Trump's fault, right,
whatever it may be, they will make the leaps necessary
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because they see all this as political warfare. Friends, you
have to understand it. It's not about what's true for
the true leftist these days. For the commies that are
in our midst, whatever they have to do to achieve
political power they think is inherently justified. Our media certainly
is in that category right now. They believe that lying
is a necessary step in defeating the Maga extremism that
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has swept through the country. And they won't stop and say,
while Joe Biden's actually really bad at this and we
shouldn't be supporting some of these idiotic policies, notably on
the crime issue. I mean, I want to get into
if you want to come back into There's a story
out of the Fox affiliate in LA about business owner
(07:26):
who who describes what's like what's it like to try
to run a business right now in Los Angeles? And
it's the same thing that it's like to when you
know a business that's open to the public, you know,
to run a store or run a pharmacy. What's it
like these days in major cities in America? What's the
kind of stuff you have to put up with? Him
in clay, the stuff that people are dealing with day
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in and day out because the Democrats refuse to enforce laws,
refuse to actually lock people up for the behavior that
is destroying peace of mind for millions of people in
society right now. This is something that everyone needs to
know about, everyone needs to be talking about. It's happened.
It happens to me here in New York. It's crazy.
I got people screaming crazy things on the street. I
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have friends who are carrying folding blades now walking around
Midtown Manhattan because they're concerned for their safety. That wasn't
true five years ago. I just said that I had
to have a conversation with my wife about what gas
station she's using in our hometown. I've never had those
conversations before with her, and that's because our modern era
right now, we're living at a high rate of crime
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out buck Sexton. We are joined now by Ohio Senate
candidate Best selling author jd Vance. JD you've been feuding
(10:41):
with Tim Ryan. Unbelieved I saw this story. I couldn't
believe it. Over who likes Ohio State football more? Now,
you know, I'm a pretty big college football fan. I
didn't anticipate this being a major brewhaha, so to speak.
But I think it probably speaks the desperation that him Ryan,
his phil feeling that he's trying to make this an issue.
(11:05):
The campaign's going pretty well, right, Yeah, it's definitely going well,
And it's one of these weird issues where, you know,
reminds me a couple of years ago, where like every
liberal Hollywood got really into the NFL because they put
in racism in the end zone. Yeah, he did this
weird thing where he obsessed for two weeks about the
fact that Trump was holding a rally, which of course
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I was going to because it was in the state
while during an Ohio State football game. And by the way,
it was it was Ohio State Toledo. I think it
Ohio State scored like basketball team level numbers against Toledo.
I was not exactly worried. It's not the biggest game
of the year for the black guys. I think it's
fair to say, yeah, exactly. But the hilarious thing is
it turns out he was not watching the game either,
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and so he had his staff live tweeting the game
as if it was him. But he was at somebody's wedding,
So you know, who cares like he goes to a wedding,
no one would make an issue out of it. But
he decided to make an issue out of this football
game even though he was being hypocritical. It's sort of
a good illustration of his entire campaign, which is a
bit of a bit of a cluster a JD. It's buck.
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We were just talking about the crime issue and I'd
seen when was this? Just to make sure I'm giving yeah, oh,
just today that Columbus, Ohio, for example, has already passed
a hundred homicides. It's a little later, two months later
than the record year of homicides they had last year.
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Ohio statewide and its major cities, how is it doing
when it comes to crime and what are some of
the progressive prosecutors pushing in those cities. You know, we
talked about Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Illinois. What's going on in
Ohio crime wise? Well, it's not good buck. So so
we definitely have a crime problem in Ohio. If you
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look at some of our biggest cities, you know we
have we have violent crime rates that rivals in third
world countries. And you know, everybody thinks about Chicago, New York,
in San Francisco, but there are some cities in Ohio
that are doing very poorly. And you're right to ask
about the prosecutors because the thing they're really doing is
it's actually not just the prosecutors, but it's a lot
of the very activist local judges here. The police officers,
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I've heard them say, they bring a guy who carjacked
a woman at eight in the morning, and instead of
arresting while, they arrest the person, but instead of putting
that person in jail, the judges will let them out.
They will so call divert them from the traditional criminal
justice system, and then the copts will arrest the same
person the same day, committing the same violent crime. And
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that's happening all over the state of Ohio. And again,
this is just a straightforward policy choice. If you look
at the statistics, you guys, it's a very consistent story
that a substantial share of the violent crime is committed
by a handful of people. So this decision to just
let violent criminals maraud around our streets is very, very
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directly causing this. And if we just accept that some people,
you know what, they need to spend some time in prison,
we could deal with a lot of this problem. JD.
When you look at and talk to people on the streets,
you've been all over Ohio, Buck and I have been saying,
it's inflation, slash the economy, it's the border, and it's crime.
Does that overwhelmingly reflect what you are hearing from your
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constituents in Ohio about their biggest concerns? It is. I mean,
those are definitely the top three issues, and you know,
you hear about them in different ways, but definitely those
are the things that dominate people's minds. I will say
that a lot of people, you know, I might add
to that, they're they're just sick of being told what
they're allowed to say and what they're allowed to think.
A lot of people in Ohio, obviously, I mean not
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just Ohio, but all across the country headed back to
school in the last couple of weeks, and so I
think the fact that too many schools are in the
game of indoctrinating kids instead of educating kids is coming
back to the forefront of parents' minds. They're very worried
about the quality of the education their kids are getting.
There have been a couple of little rumors about, you know,
COVID policy getting a little crazy, some schools remasking and
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so forth. So I think this school issue remains a
big issue, and I think, you know, a lot of
people forgot about it because we've just had this very
long political summer. But as people get back to the
cadence of normal life, I suspect the school issue is
going to be top of mind come November as well.
Speaking of j jd Vance, he is running for Senate
in Ohio. J D what would be your top priorities?
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I mean, obviously, with Joe Biden still in office, getting
any laws passed would be very difficult. But we're going
to be in a presidential election cycle as soon as
the midterm cycle ends, you know, finishes up, so the
policies that are put forward by the GOP will be
essentially on the ballot in twenty twenty four. What do
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you think is critical to get done? I mean, what
are some of the things legislatively that you would want
a spearhead. Well, look, I think we could close the border.
You know, Biden knows that this is politically and popular.
I think that he'd probably like an exit ramp, especially
as he heads into a presidential election year. Of course,
if they let him run the first place. But I think,
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you know, we could actually say, look, you're not gonna
get a dollar of your priorities if you don't actually
enforce the border. Build the border wall, and allow the
border patrol agents to do what they do best, which
is keep us safe. I also think that you to
your point about him vetoing laws, you know, we should
actually propose legislation and let him be to this stuff. Right,
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Do some things that are politically popular, that are good
for the country, that are consistent with our values, and
force Joe Biden to say no to it so that
when you know, we run in twenty four, whether it's
Trump or to Stand or whoever else, we actually have
a set of priorities. It's not just Biden to a
bad president. You know, seventy percent of the country agrees
with that. But here are a series of Republican proposals
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where if we take the country in a different direction.
This will affirmatively become law and make your life better.
A big part of that, obviously, JD, is that Tim
Ryan has tried to claim that he is a moderate
and independent voice while at the same time supporting virtually
everything that Joe Biden advocates for. What about that appeal
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is that having success in convincing people that he is
a moderate or are most people seeing through it and
recognizing that essentially he's a rubber stamp for everything that
Joe Biden wanted to get done. I think most people
see through it. In sort of our job over the
next fifty days is to make sure everybody sees through it,
because you're exactly right. It's an incredible contrast between the
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DC liberal Tim Ryan, who votes for open borders, who
votes to let violent criminals out of prison, who votes
to crush the Ohio energy economy, which is one of
the things driving inflation, and then the totally reasonable guy
that comes on these TV commercials and runs away from
every single position where he's taken a vote, even a
couple of years ago. I mean even the student debt issue, right,
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not a very popular thing, I think a deeply unfair
thing that Joe Biden did and probably illegal. Tim Ryan
voted for a more generous version of student debt relief
and then around and says, well, I don't actually like
what Joe Biden is doing. Well, the reason you say
you don't like it is because you know it's not
going to get you elected to the Senate. But look,
the guy's record is the guy's record, and it's impossible
for him to run away from it. We've started to
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hammer him on the airwaves to let people know that
the fake moderate they see in these TV commercials is
not the real DC Tim Ryan. We're gonna keep on
doing that, and I think it's already had a big effect.
I think it'll continue to have a big effects through
the election. So I feel good about our race. And
I think you know, those of your listeners who are
in Ohio, just let your friends know, let your family
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know this is this guy's not a moderate, he's not
a conservative. He is a very radical rubber stamp for
Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi. And of course, if people have resources,
they can go to Jdvans dot com donates to the
campaign and help us fund some of these advertisements that
get that message out. JD. We've got a lot of
people listening across Ohio, including an our affiliate whlo AM
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in the Cleveland Akron area, and so they can go
to your side. As you said, I'm just wondering, are
you getting the same kind of dodging the question or
dodging the debate treatment with Ryan that we've seen start
to It's just becoming obvious right in another races, Cortes
Mastow in Nevada is not really willing to face the
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press or square off against Adam Laxalt. Clearly Fetterman to
your east there, Fetterman and Oz Fetterman's trying to avoid
that letter. I mean, so are we seeing the same
thing with Tim Ryan? You said that he's misrepresenting himself,
but is he also trying to pull a hide in
the basement and hope the press carries the water form routine.
What's going on? Well, you know, Federman is of course
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the most well spoken of the Democrats, so os has
to be careful there. But you know, in our race
in Ohio, we really want to debate, and we think,
we think that we are going to have debates. Now
here's the deal. We've accepted a couple of debates, and
you know, a couple of media organizations said we'd like
to host these debates. Our campaign went out immediately and said, okay,
those are the two debates that will do. Now. The
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only debate that Tim Ryan has said he wants to
do is one put on by the Ohio Debate Commission.
And that may sound like a nonpartisan organization, but as
we found out a couple of days ago, the Ohio
Debate Commission the leader is a literal Tim Ryan doer,
Like she's written checks to Tim Ryan. She was on
the board of Planned Parenthood. But she's basically an activist organization.
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And so the debate we're having here in Ohio is, yes,
we'll do the debate, but we're not doing it with
a partisan democratic organization. We'll do it with nonpartisan media organizations.
And I think, you know, our message to Tim Ryan
has been, look, you know, I guarantee he's seeing the
same thing in his internal numbers that we're seeing in ours.
He needs the debates more than we do, and so
I hope will accept I mean claim. We've got people
on w KRC and Cincinnati, WTAM, in Cleveland, WHLO and AKRON, WTVN,
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in Columbus, Toledo, Ohio WSPD. I mean they can make
a big difference here. I think everyone needs to understand
they they can make the difference in this race. No,
in many of those markets, we are number one in
the entire market right now. So JD, I hope they're
listening and hope they're enjoying this. One of the things
that stood out and we went after Tim Ryan for
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this was he essentially said he supports abortion all the
way through nine months. And obviously many different states are
coming to many different laws as it pertains to that.
Are you finding that most ohioens JD find Tim Ryan's
position of abortion all the way through nine months is
a radical proposition? Yeah? Absolutely, And look, I'm pro life,
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and I recognize, you know, different people are going to
draw the line, maybe differently from what I would like
to do, but pretty much all of us can agree
that you should not have taxpayer funded elective abortion at
forty weeks, right. You can't use you can't use abortion
as birth control, especially that late in pregnancy. And Tim
Ryan has repeatedly voted for legislation that not only would
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allow it nationwide, would invalidate any restriction on abortion nationwide,
but would also force Ohio taxpayers to foot the It's
really a testament to how crazy the Democrats have gotten
on this issue. If you look across the world, Scandinavia,
Western Europe, and these are typically considered pretty far left societies,
you know, they typically banned abortion after twelve to fifteen weeks.
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The only countries that allow NonStop abortion on demand up
to the moment of birth are North Korea and China. Like,
I don't want to join that club. I guess we're
already in that club, but I don't want to be
part of that club anymore. And again I think it
just shows Tim Ryan's really out of step here, and
people ask, well, why does he take such radical positions
that the answer is actually really simple, because the activists
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that fund his campaign. The reason why he has all
these TV commercials saying that he's a moderate is because
these activists put a lot of money into his race,
and he knows if he crosses these people, he's gonna
have to run on his own record, and he's gonna
lose JD Vance. He's gonna win be the next senator
from Ohio. You can give him your support. Kivis that
website one more time. JD. Yeah, that's JD Vance dot com.
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Appreciate everything. I appreciate what you guys are doing, and
everybody in the hil last get out and vote on
number right. Thanks JD and Clay. We're thinking he's gonna win.
He's gotta win by a lot though, folks. It's got
to send a message. Can't be close. Get out there,
help him, Amen, and hopefully the buck geys will continue
to win. So Tim, Ryan, I'll have something to talk about.
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We'll talk more about some of the craziness that's going on.
We got to play this clip for you of Stacy
Abrahams at some point this hour or next hour. Buck
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us Thursday, rolling in the first day of fall. I
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we bring on now Alex Barrenson, it's coldn flu season.
Fouci's gearing up. Fall is here, Alex. I want to
start with this because we've been having fun with it
and I know you're going to take it to a
dark place eventually with all the results that are coming
(25:06):
in unfortunately from these these COVID shots. So what is
your reaction to reports that Fauci would regularly mock the
restaurant restrictions that you would have to wear a mask
until you got seated, and also that he said privately
I could get people to believe they need to do
anything when he was talking about wearing goggles and double
and triple masking. I mean, does it make you hate
(25:27):
him even more? Uh? You know, I'd actually be glad
if that's true. I know this is from this this
Trump tell all right this Uh yeah, Brian Morgan starting
We had him on the show yesterday talking about it. Um.
I mean because then at least he'd be in on
the joke a little bit, and he's not a complete idiot.
So those are choices like to be that, Like, I
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guess I'd rather believe that he's like a cynical you know,
you know what, than like he's just a moron who
actually believed the idea that masking while you're walking to
the table and not masking while you're eating made him.
But those are really our choices, right, He's either full
athentic Alex the latest on the vaccines. What do we
need to know about? First of all, there are places,
(26:11):
uh Smith College place. I actually spent a lot of
time when I was in college. I know it pretty well.
It's uh, it is. It has been an insane asylum
in a lot of ways for a long time on
a whole bunch of issues. But Smith College, I think,
is requiring the most up to date vaccination. Why is it?
I mean we were asking questions six seven, eight months
ago now like, hey, how effect? They keep saying it's
(26:32):
so so effective at preventing death. But then we started
to see these numbers about even those at high risk,
that most of the people who were dying on a
monthly basis in this country were vaccinated. I'm like, how
do we how do we disentangle the efficacy component before
we talk about the side effect component. Well, I mean,
so look we're at this interesting place. There's been a
(26:57):
I mean, the vaccines are now rejected I think. I mean,
I think almost nobody with the choice is getting this
by valent Booster and you know, to to you know,
I don't want to, I don't want to like to
depend too much on my anecdote here, but I think
I've mentioned my mother a couple of times on the
show in the past, and she, uh, you know, she's
an MSNBC watcher and refers to Anti Faschy as America's
(27:21):
doctor without um uh you know, without irony. Gotta be
a fun Thanksgiving and she and she is probably or
at least seriously considering not getting the fist shot. And so,
you know, I think even for people, you know, she's
had COVID a couple of times, she's gotten her for
(27:43):
you know, her for shots. She you know, even somebody,
even people who are predisposed to believe everything that they've
been told for the last two years, now understand that
the vaccine is not protective against infection or transmission. And
I and people, you know, look, people are looking around
and seeing, you know, we're two plus years into this.
(28:05):
Who do I know who's gotten really sick from COVID?
Who do I know who's died from COVID? Who wasn't
eighty five years old or four hundred pounds? And for
most people, almost everybody to answer that question is nobody.
I don't know anybody who who you know, who for
whom this was a serious disease, Who wasn't you know,
who wasn't sick in some profound way beforehand? And then
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they say what about the vaccines, Like do I know
people who had a bad response, who were laid up
for a week, or whose arms swelled up or not
necessarily who died And they're saying like, why would I
get this? And I think, really, that's where we are,
And there's just these sort of weird pockets of the
governments and the educational system into some extent, you know,
the medical system that haven't caught up with where everyone
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is right now. Yeah, and Alex, I think speaking to
that in particular, you were one of the first that
I remember talking about the data on kids getting COVID shots,
and the Washington Post had like a really upset article.
I'm sure you read it three or four days ago,
and I'll hit the stats for everybody out there. Ninety
five percent nationwide of parents of six month old to
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five year olds are not getting them the shot. That is,
only five percent are And the numbers I think have
stunned some of the so called health experts. But to
me that that's clear evidence of how people are voting.
Parents might take risks more so with their own health,
but when it comes to their young kids, they're much
(29:33):
more risk averse, and they're overwhelmingly voting no on the
COVID shot for young kids. Yes, you're absolutely, And funny
you mentioned because I'm writing a substock about that right
now that the washingtonst story got me to look at
the numbers again myself, because you know, it's pretty stunning asually,
that it's so overwhelming that even the Washington Post is
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taking notice, and that you know, the lead on my
story is Ted Cruz one Elmo zero because I don't
know if you remember, but oh yeah, the Sesame Street battle, yeah, right,
and and crews said what you know, what are they doing?
And it was, oh, Ted Cruz, you know I hate
your kids and you can well parents. Apparently Saturday Night
Live did a making fun of him, but he was right, Yes,
that's right, right, he was. He was right. And it's
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even worse from the vaccine advocates point of view than
you're saying, because ninety three percent of parents have not
gotten their kids even one shot. But then when you
look at the seven percent who have I'm talking about
in the under five group, eighty percent of those parents
haven't gotten their kids a second shot. So when you
look at the number of kids who are fully vaccinated
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against COVID who are under five, it's less than two
percent of all children in that age range. It's unbelievable.
What a rejection this is. And and so when you
read that Washington Post story is I guess you know
as you guys have. It's interesting because the vaccine advocates
are like, oh, we didn't we didn't let parents know
that this was available. We didn't know ye for them,
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that's such nonsense. It's just a lie. You couldn't go
anywhere in June without hearing about this. Alex. We have
to ask you also about this, this idea of negative
efficacy when it comes to infection for young people. How
solid is the data on this? Where is this? Essentially?
Is there real data right now to suggest that people
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who are I think it was was it under twelves
who got the shot were more likely to be reinfected
with COVID? That was the preprint study. Can you just
tell us where does that stand? No, it's extremely solid,
and it's really not just under twelve. It's just you
know that that the study with the under twelves m
has you know, they extended the timeline out far enough
(31:43):
to catch the fall into negative efficacy, But if you
look at uh, you know, data on older people, it's
it's the same thing. So so with omicron, it's quite
clear that after after a couple of months um the
vaccine really stops being protective at all. And then it
looks like after a couple months after that your risk
of infection actually rises. Another you have a bigger risk
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of being infected if you are vaccinated then if you're not.
And and they're like, there's you know, there's ways to
explain that that don't involve actual like biological changes of
the vaccine is making in you. For example, you know,
the vaccine advocates to say, oh, that's because people who
are vaccinated know they're vaccinated and they take more risks,
but that's probably not true. The reality is the vaccine
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basically cause the original version of it, which is what
you have to get, even if you're getting this you know,
quote unquote bivalent booster, the original version of it causes
your body to make antibodies that are not really good
against the omicron spike, and so over time, as your
overall number of anybodies wanes, you're you fear to be
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left with some that actually increase the risk of your infection.
It gets it gets complicated the details, but that's the
top line. The top line is that data is probably
correct and you're probably now at higher risk of omicron
in section if you're vaccinated. Then if not so is
essentially this is just going to go away and people
going to pretend that this whole thing never happened in
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your mind now because clearly kids are not getting these shots.
There's no mandates now. Even aggressive cities like New York
are doing away with much of their private vaccine mandate.
It seems like Biden wants to claim the pandemics over
because he needs to have something that he can claim
he didn't screw up, Like where are we in your
mind with these COVID shots? I think so, I think
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that's correct. I mean, the only sort of the black
swan would be if a new variant comes out that
is actually quite dangerous, and then the negative efficacy will
really matter. But you know your listeners, and you may
recall that I was sort of harping on that a
little bit more three or four months ago, and it
seems like that's less of a risk. Now seems that
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omicron is just is just dominant, and and omicron is
just not that dangerious to almost everybody, and so everybody's
gotten it. A lot of people have gotten it more
than once. Um, you know. And the other thing that's
happened is if you look at what's what are called
anti and the antibodies, so that's a different part of
the virus, which are very durable and which the vaccine
(34:22):
does not cause you to make. You can only get
those after being infected and recovering. Um. The levels of
those in the population are now very high, so that's
actually probably protective as well. Whatever happens to the spike.
We all have these anti and antibodies helping us. And
there was a period of time when I was worried
that the vaccine would actually interfere with the generation of those,
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But it looks like the vaccine ultimately proves so useless
against omicron that you get it, and you get these
anti and antibodies, and that's good. So so just to
bring this full circle, the vaccines we're so crappy that
the good news is that people got COVID anyway and
now have natural immunity donna get that right you basically
that's correct, that is that's a piece I really need
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to write to the stack. But yes, that's basically what
has happened in the last six months. That's amazing. Alex
Barrens and everybody go check out his sub stack at
Clay and I are subscribers. It's been fantastic and he's
continued to work on this and it's it's not over.
If you listen to the the Biden administration, they're still pushing it.
Fauci's pushing it to Alex. Thank you so much man.
As always, we appreciate you a great pleasure. Guys. All right,
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so we talk about the fight for life on this
show a lot, and later on we're actually going to
discuss that there's now a push to say that fetal
heartbeat is not a real thing. This is now out there.
The left wing media is pushing this idea. They're saying
there is no such thing as fetal heartbeat. Really, it's
a made up it's a conspiracy. I'm not making this up.
The same people who relying on planned parenthood and the
(35:49):
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Welcome in Third Hour Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
I gotta say, Clay, that was quite a blast from
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the past to have Scott Bayo from Charles and Charge
Fame call in. I was awesome. I watched so much
of that show back in the day. I look, I
will say I had a huge crush on the actress
I can't remember her name now, who was one of
the one of the the you know what I'm talking about,
one of the actresses in that I was a teenager.
She was like, you know, probably in her twenties at
(38:21):
the time. I can't remember her name now. I was
in love with And this is more embarrassing than that.
Um oh, Lissa Milano on Who's the Boss back in
the day, and she miss Milano, she oh, I interviewed her.
Where did you meet her? I interviewed her when I
was working at HILLTV on guns and stuff like that.
And I will tell you, Clay, she would not approve
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of a lot of what mister Travis, mister Clays, our
relationship would not go well. Nicole Eggert was that yes, yes,
yes she was. She was on Baywatch too, wasn't she.
I mean sure, maybe possibly. She and Pamela Anderson have
made many young men aware that they are heterosexual in
their lives. There are a lot of some of those
girls you see on television for the first time, You're like, wow,
(39:04):
she's really pretty. That is she and she and Pamela Anderson,
we're quite the tandem back in the day. We also
have to get to this hour. A few things that
I want to make sure we talk about. Come back
to the immigration issue if we can. We've We've got
Jerome Powell, Clay, we got to touch on this later.
Jerome Powell on the economy, Jerome Power. He's at the
(39:28):
phase now where he's we'll do this in a few minutes.
But he's telling everybody get ready for it, like it's
gonna get ugly out there. They can't hide this anymore. Really.
The Democrats are trying and trying and telling people, oh
but look at remember and they're saying, look at the
unemployment numbers. Yeah, let's see where the unemployment number is
in three months. Let's see where that inflation number is
in three months. We'll we'll dive into this in a second,
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because there's something that I mean, this is a real
moment here, folks. Stacy Abrams is looking like she's going
to lose yet again. And there are some questions for
the governor's race and George as to whether she will
retain her title of the fake Governor of Georgia or
she will relinquish her fake so bad, Buck, I want
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to know how you and I were talking about this
off air, because how is she going to handle her loss?
Because when she lost by fifty thousand votes in twenty eighteen,
she claimed that the election was rigged against her and that,
as you said, she was the fake governor of Georgia,
she might lose by ten points in Georgia. I mean,
this is not The Atlanta Journal Constitution has her down
(40:33):
by eight. Marist had her down by eleven. She's run
an atrocious campaign and is getting destroyed. So here she is.
She's on a panel. She was on a panel where
I'm trying to make sure that I find what this
panel was exactly about. But she was on a panel
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and she said about the issue of fetal heartbeat. Right,
remember the missus the Mississippi law, that one all that
the Supreme Court had to do with with fetal heartbeat.
Here is Stacey Abrahams, who wants to be the next
governor of Georgia. You know, I just want people to
hear it and then we will analyze. Here's what she
says about fetal heartbeat sound design control. So let's say
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what we said there because some people might not have
heard it that clearly because that audio is not perfect.
She said that the heartbeat that you hear on a
sonogram is not real. It's manufactured, designed to take away
women's rights to make a choice by men. I'm paraphrase here.
I have the quote. It is a manufactured sound designed
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to convince people that men have the right to take
control of a woman's body. I mean, I don't say
this lightly. This is deranged. This is deranged. And I
shared that video clip and I'm getting attacked because people
are saying, oh, what are you talking. Look, here's what
I will say, And maybe we can open up phone
lines for other people who have had the opportunity eight
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hundred two A two two eight eight two. You just
heard what Stacy Abram said for many of us. And
I will put myself in this camp. I've got three boys.
And when you get to go and hear the heartbeat
and find out the sex and all of the other
things that a sonogram provides, it is a unbelievable experience
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that I hope everybody out there who is a parent, Buck,
I hope you get to experience it one day. It's
an unbelievable moment to get to be there with your
spouse and see for the first time inside of her
pregnant stomach that baby, and here at heartbeat right, and
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then going on and being able to see what the
sex is going to be if you decide to find
out in advance, and all those things. For Stacy Abrahams
to argue that essentially the ultrasound, the sonogram, and the
heartbeat the first time that you hear the heartbeat is
not real and is manufactured so that men believe they
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can essentially control women's bodies is so outrageous and outlandish.
Now she also believe she's saying she's wrong on many levels.
And for one thing, men are often the ones who
are very supportive of the abortion movement because they want
to be able to push or coerce or convince a woman. Hey,
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you know, you know what it's so so there's no
there are lots of yes, yeah, no exactly sex with
no consequence. There are a lot. There are a lot
of women out there who have children who are ardently
pro life, and many of them, millions of them listen
to this program. But Stacy Abrams's what she's trying to
argue here, apart from the craziest thing, which is that
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this is about men controlling women's bodies, that's just the
rhetoric of planned parenthood and the lies that are all
around this. But also okay, so it's cardiac tissue in
a fetus that is pulsating rhythmically. As so she's essentially
trying to say, because it's not a full grown heart
within a order and the different the different chambers of
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the heart and all the rest of it, that it's
not actually a heartbeat. You know, at some point this
starts to be Okay, it's a brain stem and the
feat is, but it's not a fully developed brain. So
does that mean that it's you know, what are they
going to call it? This gets to where the life
begins debate, and it also gets to the way that
they try to control with language. What is so obvious?
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I mean, Clay, to your point, what when you saw
your your child, when you saw you know, your boys
in the womb, you were seeing life that is actually
it is. It is an incredise. And that's why I
said to open up the phone lines, like, however you
want to classify what exactly the heart? However you want
to medically define a heartbeat and all those things, the
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idea that the ultrasound and the sonogram and the entire
process is designed to give men control over women's bodies
is frankly an insult because my wife's gynecologist and the
woman who delivered her our baby is a woman, right,
and so are very many of the people who are
working in these fields. To share the first image, but
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like many parents out there, you want that printed off, right.
I mean, I would bet a huge percentage of our
parents and grandparents in this audience have looked at the
sonogram of their unborn child and just been And I'll
tell you what I was. It's the baby. I was
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your baby. Disbelief that you could see that, right, the
idea that you put the little cream or whatever it
is on the stomach and yes, yes, I mean it.
It is magical that moment, that experience. And for Stacy
Abrahams to be in the closing part of her campaign,
lookbuck she uh said that Georgia was the worst state
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in the nation. She memorably we talked a lot about this,
wore no mask when all the kids around her had
to wear a mask. I mean, her entire campaign has
been a disaster, but for her closing argument to be
all of you who think you're hearing your baby's heartbeat
are actually just members of the patriarchy who are having
men's control of women bodies. This is one of the
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most tone depth things that I have ever seen a
politician say. I can tell you, especially in a state
like Georgia. I think it is calculated on her behalf
insofar as she's going to need the CNN executives and
the publishing houses and etc. Of the Democrat apparatus much
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more than the Democrat voter because she's gonna lose, and
this is essentially locking her in for a future of
left wing speaking engagements. She's going to become essentially a
celebrity of the Democrat apparatus instead of an actual viable politician,
at least for a period of time. So this is pandering,
I think, to the planned parenthood apparatus and on all
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the rest of it. In the final moments here and
keep in mind, Clay she said on the View last week,
she said on the View, maybe we can even track
down this audio abortion at nine months of her pregnancy.
Anytime you talk to somebody about this who's a liberal, Look,
that's not a thing, and it doesn't happen, and nobody
that is a lie. It is a thing. It is
a thing in the law, and it is something that
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Stacy Abrams said that she supports. In fact, she said
the quote is until time of birth in some cases,
which is another way of saying Stacy Abrams believes that
a baby in the ninth month of a pregnancy forty
weeks we know. However, however, you're going to gauge this
is not a baby, is not a human being. How
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does she explain this? She can't. And I thought jd Vance,
who we had on last hour, actually did a good
job of explaining this because his opponent in that Senate race,
Tim Ryan, has said the same thing essentially as Stacey Abrams,
which is nine month abortions are okay, just like Stacey
Abrams did. In other words, she supports abortion to the
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limits of the law, and that's not where the vast
majority of the American population is. Most Americans believe that
first trimester, in some way there should be a line
drawn where exactly people can agree and disagree, and some
people believe that there should be no limits at all
for rape and incest health of another. Everybody has a
variety of different opinions there After the first trimester, it
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is actually an incredible minority position to believe, and by
the time you get to third trimester, only about ten
percent of Americans believe that that should be legal. We
have a lot of we have experts, We have people
that run sonograms who are calling, Okay, this is I
Am I an idiot? Or is this a pretty I
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just want to hear from everybody else out there who
has experienced this. When I saw this Stacy Abrams quote,
my jaw dropped. Maybe I'm just all the movies, by
the way, where the you know, the husband and the
wife or the you know, the boyfriend the girlfriend. They
go to the doctor's office and the doctor goes, look,
you can see your baby's heartbeat. It's the patriarchy. It's
a conspiracy. I like, I legitimately my jaw dropped when
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I saw her say this. I mean, apparently they should
go in there and the doctor is supposed to say,
you know, it's just it's just a clump of cells.
Oh okay. Sure, we'll get back into this with some
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We
had mentioned this before, and it's one of these stories
that is getting nowhere near the attention that it would
if the political affiliations, if the political reality was just
a little different. A North Dakota man obviously a Democrat
(00:25):
in this situation named Shannon Brandt called the North Dakota
Highway Patrol on Sunday saying that he had struck a
pedestrian in an alleyway in mckenry with his two thousand
and three Ford Explorer and what he really meant by
that is allegedly he used his car as a weapon
(00:47):
and ran this individual, Kayler Ellingson, eighteen years old, down
murdered him with his car. That is the allegation. Brandt
claimed at the time that Elegson Ellingson was part of
a Republican extremist group. This is according to the Highway
Patrol report. What really happened here was, again from the
(01:09):
police report, there was an argument over politics and this individual,
who is clearly left wing, Shannon Brandt, ran down this
eighteen year old and killed him. Allegedly in cold blood here.
I mean, that's saying this. Obviously there's a legal implications.
(01:30):
You know, you have to always say until there's actually
a conviction. But Clay, we all understand that if this
were different, if a guy in a metaphorical or real
Maga hat had run down some Democrat, a Hillary voter
in his car because they had had an argument over politics,
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we would be told by CNN and MSNBC and The
New York Times that we need a national conversation about
the threat of maga extremism, white supremacy. Even the two
guys involved here, white doesn't matter, white supremacy, Maga extremism.
This is the political violence that they put right at
(02:13):
the feet of Donald Trump himself. Joe Biden gave he
looked like the Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars. Yeah, that
theatrics around this, it did honestly look like Stalin was
giving a speech in the darkest days of the Soviet
Union when the purge was going on, and a couple
of weeks later this happens. Now the Left would connect
(02:36):
those dots if the political affiliation was different. How many
people have even heard about the story, or more to
the point, how many have seen a major news network
other than Fox even touch on this story. Well, there's
a bunch of things here. First, you're a hundred percent
right because we know this one person I believe I'm correct, Buck,
(02:57):
you can correct me if I'm wrong, died in Charlottesville,
and it was laid directly at Donald Trump's feet because
he had the audacity to come out and say, which
you go back and look at the transcript, that many
of the people, which he was correct, who were protesting
the removal of statues were right, and that this wasn't
going to end with Confederate statues and it would move
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on to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and even Abraham Lincoln.
He was one hundred percent right about that. What I
think it's fair to call woke history and the way
that it's being attributed, and the lie is why Joe
Biden ran for president. Just Woever, remember Joe Biden said
because based on that lie, the lie was that Trump
had called these Nazi protesters very fine people. He did not.
(03:43):
He pointed out that there were very fine people on
both sides, which was accurate. He directly condemned neo Nazis
and everybody else you go look at the transcribe. This
is one of the great lies that was spread by
the media to attack Trump, so we know he was
held completely responsible for the death of I believe that
woman in Charlottesville. This story is receiving no attention to
(04:07):
the New York Times, no attention at CNN, no attention
at the Washington Post. Okay, and frankly, we need to
get some answers from the North Dakota politicians about what
exactly is going on here, buck, because this guy was
only charged with vehicular homicide, which seems like a relatively
low charge, and he's out on bail fifty thousand dollars. Buck,
(04:29):
All he had to post was fifty thousand dollars and
he's already out on bail now. Maybe, to be fair,
there are some details and circumstances surrounding this case that
are not yet public that would justify that being the case.
But this is a red state where a Republican supporter
was based on the details that are out right now,
(04:51):
killed based on his politics. How in the world are
North Dakota politicians not speaking out about this, How is
the AG not speaking out, How is the governor not
speaking out? Aggressively. And how does a guy get a
vehicul or homicide charge for what appears to be an
intentional murder? And how does he get it? How is
he already back out on the streets for a fifty
(05:13):
thousand dollar bail. Now, again, I want to be clear.
If there are details in this case that are not
yet public that can explain that, we will share them
on this show. But Buck, I looked into this pretty aggressively.
I'm sure you have as well. I haven't seen anything
that would suggest this is anything other than what has
been reported so far. This is hate crime? Is another
(05:33):
question we might want to pose for everybody killing somebody
over politics. It actually is something that the left would
argue is terrorism. They would say that this guy is
If he were a Republican who killed a Democrat over
a political fight, this would be labeled terrorism. It would
also be on the front page of the newspaper. It
would have been a lead story for multiple days. Maga extremism.
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How this is a natural result, no outgrowth of everything
that Trump has said. I mean, we're a country a
three hundred and thirty million people, although given all the
illegal immigration, who knows what the real number is, But
we're a country of three hundred and thirty million people
and one individual's actions should not be placed at the
feet of an entire political ideology. That is true. But
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the problem is the Democrats do that to us all
the time, every time, and even sometimes when there's somebody
who is in no way actually a conservative or a Republican,
but you know they had a couple of right leaning
views on something. You know, they believe in secure borders,
they're a terrorist, Oh my gosh, it's Donald Trump's fault, right,
whatever it may be, they will make the leaps necessary
(06:39):
because they see all this as political warfare. Friends, you
have to understand it. It's not about what's true for
the true leftist these days. For the commies that are
in our midst, whatever they have to do to achieve
political power they think is inherently justified. Our media certainly
is in that category right now. They believe that lying
is a necessary step in defeating the Maga extremism that
(07:05):
has swept through the country. And they won't stop and say,
while Joe Biden's actually really bad at this and we
shouldn't be supporting some of these idiotic policies, notably on
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right now, we're living at a high rate of crime
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out buck Sexton. We are joined now by Ohio Senate
candidate Best selling author jd Vance. JD you've been feuding
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with Tim Ryan. Unbelieved I saw this story. I couldn't
believe it. Over who likes Ohio State football more? Now,
you know, I'm a pretty big college football fan. I
didn't anticipate this being a major brewhaha, so to speak.
But I think it probably speaks the desperation that him Ryan,
his phil feeling that he's trying to make this an issue.
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The campaign's going pretty well, right, Yeah, it's definitely going well,
And it's one of these weird issues where, you know,
reminds me a couple of years ago, where like every
liberal Hollywood got really into the NFL because they put
in racism in the end zone. Yeah, he did this
weird thing where he obsessed for two weeks about the
fact that Trump was holding a rally, which of course
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I was going to because it was in the state
while during an Ohio State football game. And by the way,
it was it was Ohio State Toledo. I think it
Ohio State scored like basketball team level numbers against Toledo.
I was not exactly worried. It's not the biggest game
of the year for the black guys. I think it's
fair to say, yeah, exactly. But the hilarious thing is
it turns out he was not watching the game either,
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and so he had his staff live tweeting the game
as if it was him. But he was at somebody's wedding,
So you know, who cares like he goes to a wedding,
no one would make an issue out of it. But
he decided to make an issue out of this football
game even though he was being hypocritical. It's sort of
a good illustration of his entire campaign, which is a
bit of a bit of a cluster a JD. It's buck.
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We were just talking about the crime issue and I'd
seen when was this? Just to make sure I'm giving yeah, oh,
just today that Columbus, Ohio, for example, has already passed
a hundred homicides. It's a little later, two months later
than the record year of homicides they had last year.
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Ohio statewide and its major cities, how is it doing
when it comes to crime and what are some of
the progressive prosecutors pushing in those cities. You know, we
talked about Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Illinois. What's going on in
Ohio crime wise? Well, it's not good buck. So so
we definitely have a crime problem in Ohio. If you
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look at some of our biggest cities, you know we
have we have violent crime rates that rivals in third
world countries. And you know, everybody thinks about Chicago, New York,
in San Francisco, but there are some cities in Ohio
that are doing very poorly. And you're right to ask
about the prosecutors because the thing they're really doing is
it's actually not just the prosecutors, but it's a lot
of the very activist local judges here. The police officers,
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I've heard them say, they bring a guy who carjacked
a woman at eight in the morning, and instead of
arresting while, they arrest the person, but instead of putting
that person in jail, the judges will let them out.
They will so call divert them from the traditional criminal
justice system, and then the copts will arrest the same
person the same day, committing the same violent crime. And
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that's happening all over the state of Ohio. And again,
this is just a straightforward policy choice. If you look
at the statistics, you guys, it's a very consistent story
that a substantial share of the violent crime is committed
by a handful of people. So this decision to just
let violent criminals maraud around our streets is very, very
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directly causing this. And if we just accept that some people,
you know what, they need to spend some time in prison,
we could deal with a lot of this problem. JD.
When you look at and talk to people on the streets,
you've been all over Ohio, Buck and I have been saying,
it's inflation, slash the economy, it's the border, and it's crime.
Does that overwhelmingly reflect what you are hearing from your
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constituents in Ohio about their biggest concerns? It is. I mean,
those are definitely the top three issues, and you know,
you hear about them in different ways, but definitely those
are the things that dominate people's minds. I will say
that a lot of people, you know, I might add
to that, they're they're just sick of being told what
they're allowed to say and what they're allowed to think.
A lot of people in Ohio, obviously, I mean not
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just Ohio, but all across the country headed back to
school in the last couple of weeks, and so I
think the fact that too many schools are in the
game of indoctrinating kids instead of educating kids is coming
back to the forefront of parents' minds. They're very worried
about the quality of the education their kids are getting.
There have been a couple of little rumors about, you know,
COVID policy getting a little crazy, some schools remasking and
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so forth. So I think this school issue remains a
big issue, and I think, you know, a lot of
people forgot about it because we've just had this very
long political summer. But as people get back to the
cadence of normal life, I suspect the school issue is
going to be top of mind come November as well.
Speaking of j jd Vance, he is running for Senate
in Ohio. J D what would be your top priorities?
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I mean, obviously, with Joe Biden still in office, getting
any laws passed would be very difficult. But we're going
to be in a presidential election cycle as soon as
the midterm cycle ends, you know, finishes up, so the
policies that are put forward by the GOP will be
essentially on the ballot in twenty twenty four. What do
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you think is critical to get done? I mean, what
are some of the things legislatively that you would want
a spearhead. Well, look, I think we could close the border.
You know, Biden knows that this is politically and popular.
I think that he'd probably like an exit ramp, especially
as he heads into a presidential election year. Of course,
if they let him run the first place. But I think,
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you know, we could actually say, look, you're not gonna
get a dollar of your priorities if you don't actually
enforce the border. Build the border wall, and allow the
border patrol agents to do what they do best, which
is keep us safe. I also think that you to
your point about him vetoing laws, you know, we should
actually propose legislation and let him be to this stuff. Right,
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Do some things that are politically popular, that are good
for the country, that are consistent with our values, and
force Joe Biden to say no to it so that
when you know, we run in twenty four, whether it's
Trump or to Stand or whoever else, we actually have
a set of priorities. It's not just Biden to a
bad president. You know, seventy percent of the country agrees
with that. But here are a series of Republican proposals
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where if we take the country in a different direction.
This will affirmatively become law and make your life better.
A big part of that, obviously, JD, is that Tim
Ryan has tried to claim that he is a moderate
and independent voice while at the same time supporting virtually
everything that Joe Biden advocates for. What about that appeal
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is that having success in convincing people that he is
a moderate or are most people seeing through it and
recognizing that essentially he's a rubber stamp for everything that
Joe Biden wanted to get done. I think most people
see through it. In sort of our job over the
next fifty days is to make sure everybody sees through it,
because you're exactly right. It's an incredible contrast between the
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DC liberal Tim Ryan, who votes for open borders, who
votes to let violent criminals out of prison, who votes
to crush the Ohio energy economy, which is one of
the things driving inflation, and then the totally reasonable guy
that comes on these TV commercials and runs away from
every single position where he's taken a vote, even a
couple of years ago. I mean even the student debt issue, right,
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not a very popular thing, I think a deeply unfair
thing that Joe Biden did and probably illegal. Tim Ryan
voted for a more generous version of student debt relief
and then around and says, well, I don't actually like
what Joe Biden is doing. Well, the reason you say
you don't like it is because you know it's not
going to get you elected to the Senate. But look,
the guy's record is the guy's record, and it's impossible
for him to run away from it. We've started to
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hammer him on the airwaves to let people know that
the fake moderate they see in these TV commercials is
not the real DC Tim Ryan. We're gonna keep on
doing that, and I think it's already had a big effect.
I think it'll continue to have a big effects through
the election. So I feel good about our race. And
I think you know, those of your listeners who are
in Ohio, just let your friends know, let your family
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know this is this guy's not a moderate, he's not
a conservative. He is a very radical rubber stamp for
Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi. And of course, if people have resources,
they can go to Jdvans dot com donates to the
campaign and help us fund some of these advertisements that
get that message out. JD. We've got a lot of
people listening across Ohio, including an our affiliate whlo AM
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in the Cleveland Akron area, and so they can go
to your side. As you said, I'm just wondering, are
you getting the same kind of dodging the question or
dodging the debate treatment with Ryan that we've seen start
to It's just becoming obvious right in another races, Cortes
Mastow in Nevada is not really willing to face the
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press or square off against Adam Laxalt. Clearly Fetterman to
your east there, Fetterman and Oz Fetterman's trying to avoid
that letter. I mean, so are we seeing the same
thing with Tim Ryan? You said that he's misrepresenting himself,
but is he also trying to pull a hide in
the basement and hope the press carries the water form routine.
What's going on? Well, you know, Federman is of course
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the most well spoken of the Democrats, so os has
to be careful there. But you know, in our race
in Ohio, we really want to debate, and we think,
we think that we are going to have debates. Now
here's the deal. We've accepted a couple of debates, and
you know, a couple of media organizations said we'd like
to host these debates. Our campaign went out immediately and said, okay,
those are the two debates that will do. Now. The
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only debate that Tim Ryan has said he wants to
do is one put on by the Ohio Debate Commission.
And that may sound like a nonpartisan organization, but as
we found out a couple of days ago, the Ohio
Debate Commission the leader is a literal Tim Ryan doer,
Like she's written checks to Tim Ryan. She was on
the board of Planned Parenthood. But she's basically an activist organization.
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And so the debate we're having here in Ohio is, yes,
we'll do the debate, but we're not doing it with
a partisan democratic organization. We'll do it with nonpartisan media organizations.
And I think, you know, our message to Tim Ryan
has been, look, you know, I guarantee he's seeing the
same thing in his internal numbers that we're seeing in ours.
He needs the debates more than we do, and so
I hope will accept I mean claim. We've got people
on w KRC and Cincinnati, WTAM, in Cleveland, WHLO and AKRON, WTVN,
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in Columbus, Toledo, Ohio WSPD. I mean they can make
a big difference here. I think everyone needs to understand
they they can make the difference in this race. No,
in many of those markets, we are number one in
the entire market right now. So JD, I hope they're
listening and hope they're enjoying this. One of the things
that stood out and we went after Tim Ryan for
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this was he essentially said he supports abortion all the
way through nine months. And obviously many different states are
coming to many different laws as it pertains to that.
Are you finding that most ohioens JD find Tim Ryan's
position of abortion all the way through nine months is
a radical proposition? Yeah? Absolutely, And look, I'm pro life,
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and I recognize, you know, different people are going to
draw the line, maybe differently from what I would like
to do, but pretty much all of us can agree
that you should not have taxpayer funded elective abortion at
forty weeks, right. You can't use you can't use abortion
as birth control, especially that late in pregnancy. And Tim
Ryan has repeatedly voted for legislation that not only would
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allow it nationwide, would invalidate any restriction on abortion nationwide,
but would also force Ohio taxpayers to foot the It's
really a testament to how crazy the Democrats have gotten
on this issue. If you look across the world, Scandinavia,
Western Europe, and these are typically considered pretty far left societies,
you know, they typically banned abortion after twelve to fifteen weeks.
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The only countries that allow NonStop abortion on demand up
to the moment of birth are North Korea and China. Like,
I don't want to join that club. I guess we're
already in that club, but I don't want to be
part of that club anymore. And again I think it
just shows Tim Ryan's really out of step here, and
people ask, well, why does he take such radical positions
that the answer is actually really simple, because the activists
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that fund his campaign. The reason why he has all
these TV commercials saying that he's a moderate is because
these activists put a lot of money into his race,
and he knows if he crosses these people, he's gonna
have to run on his own record, and he's gonna
lose JD Vance. He's gonna win be the next senator
from Ohio. You can give him your support. Kivis that
website one more time. JD. Yeah, that's JD Vance dot com.
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Appreciate everything. I appreciate what you guys are doing, and
everybody in the hil last get out and vote on
number right. Thanks JD and Clay. We're thinking he's gonna win.
He's gotta win by a lot though, folks. It's got
to send a message. Can't be close. Get out there,
help him, Amen, and hopefully the buck geys will continue
to win. So Tim, Ryan, I'll have something to talk about.
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We'll talk more about some of the craziness that's going on.
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Abrahams at some point this hour or next hour. Buck
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guess right, Buck, as we are pivoting into the fall,
we bring on now Alex Barrenson, it's coldn flu season.
Fouci's gearing up. Fall is here, Alex. I want to
start with this because we've been having fun with it
and I know you're going to take it to a
dark place eventually with all the results that are coming
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in unfortunately from these these COVID shots. So what is
your reaction to reports that Fauci would regularly mock the
restaurant restrictions that you would have to wear a mask
until you got seated, and also that he said privately
I could get people to believe they need to do
anything when he was talking about wearing goggles and double
and triple masking. I mean, does it make you hate
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him even more? Uh? You know, I'd actually be glad
if that's true. I know this is from this this
Trump tell all right this Uh yeah, Brian Morgan starting
We had him on the show yesterday talking about it. Um.
I mean because then at least he'd be in on
the joke a little bit, and he's not a complete idiot.
So those are choices like to be that, Like, I
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guess I'd rather believe that he's like a cynical you know,
you know what, than like he's just a moron who
actually believed the idea that masking while you're walking to
the table and not masking while you're eating made him.
But those are really our choices, right, He's either full
athentic Alex the latest on the vaccines. What do we
need to know about? First of all, there are places,
(26:11):
uh Smith College place. I actually spent a lot of
time when I was in college. I know it pretty well.
It's uh, it is. It has been an insane asylum
in a lot of ways for a long time on
a whole bunch of issues. But Smith College, I think,
is requiring the most up to date vaccination. Why is it?
I mean we were asking questions six seven, eight months
ago now like, hey, how effect? They keep saying it's
(26:32):
so so effective at preventing death. But then we started
to see these numbers about even those at high risk,
that most of the people who were dying on a
monthly basis in this country were vaccinated. I'm like, how
do we how do we disentangle the efficacy component before
we talk about the side effect component. Well, I mean,
so look we're at this interesting place. There's been a
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I mean, the vaccines are now rejected I think. I mean,
I think almost nobody with the choice is getting this
by valent Booster and you know, to to you know,
I don't want to, I don't want to like to
depend too much on my anecdote here, but I think
I've mentioned my mother a couple of times on the
show in the past, and she, uh, you know, she's
an MSNBC watcher and refers to Anti Faschy as America's
(27:21):
doctor without um uh you know, without irony. Gotta be
a fun Thanksgiving and she and she is probably or
at least seriously considering not getting the fist shot. And so,
you know, I think even for people, you know, she's
had COVID a couple of times, she's gotten her for
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you know, her for shots. She you know, even somebody,
even people who are predisposed to believe everything that they've
been told for the last two years, now understand that
the vaccine is not protective against infection or transmission. And
I and people, you know, look, people are looking around
and seeing, you know, we're two plus years into this.
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Who do I know who's gotten really sick from COVID?
Who do I know who's died from COVID? Who wasn't
eighty five years old or four hundred pounds? And for
most people, almost everybody to answer that question is nobody.
I don't know anybody who who you know, who for
whom this was a serious disease, Who wasn't you know,
who wasn't sick in some profound way beforehand? And then
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they say what about the vaccines, Like do I know
people who had a bad response, who were laid up
for a week, or whose arms swelled up or not
necessarily who died And they're saying like, why would I
get this? And I think, really, that's where we are,
And there's just these sort of weird pockets of the
governments and the educational system into some extent, you know,
the medical system that haven't caught up with where everyone
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is right now. Yeah, and Alex, I think speaking to
that in particular, you were one of the first that
I remember talking about the data on kids getting COVID shots,
and the Washington Post had like a really upset article.
I'm sure you read it three or four days ago,
and I'll hit the stats for everybody out there. Ninety
five percent nationwide of parents of six month old to
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five year olds are not getting them the shot. That is,
only five percent are And the numbers I think have
stunned some of the so called health experts. But to
me that that's clear evidence of how people are voting.
Parents might take risks more so with their own health,
but when it comes to their young kids, they're much
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more risk averse, and they're overwhelmingly voting no on the
COVID shot for young kids. Yes, you're absolutely, And funny
you mentioned because I'm writing a substock about that right
now that the washingtonst story got me to look at
the numbers again myself, because you know, it's pretty stunning asually,
that it's so overwhelming that even the Washington Post is
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taking notice, and that you know, the lead on my
story is Ted Cruz one Elmo zero because I don't
know if you remember, but oh yeah, the Sesame Street battle, yeah, right,
and and crews said what you know, what are they doing?
And it was, oh, Ted Cruz, you know I hate
your kids and you can well parents. Apparently Saturday Night
Live did a making fun of him, but he was right, Yes,
that's right, right, he was. He was right. And it's
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even worse from the vaccine advocates point of view than
you're saying, because ninety three percent of parents have not
gotten their kids even one shot. But then when you
look at the seven percent who have I'm talking about
in the under five group, eighty percent of those parents
haven't gotten their kids a second shot. So when you
look at the number of kids who are fully vaccinated
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against COVID who are under five, it's less than two
percent of all children in that age range. It's unbelievable.
What a rejection this is. And and so when you
read that Washington Post story is I guess you know
as you guys have. It's interesting because the vaccine advocates
are like, oh, we didn't we didn't let parents know
that this was available. We didn't know ye for them,
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that's such nonsense. It's just a lie. You couldn't go
anywhere in June without hearing about this. Alex. We have
to ask you also about this, this idea of negative
efficacy when it comes to infection for young people. How
solid is the data on this? Where is this? Essentially?
Is there real data right now to suggest that people
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who are I think it was was it under twelves
who got the shot were more likely to be reinfected
with COVID? That was the preprint study. Can you just
tell us where does that stand? No, it's extremely solid,
and it's really not just under twelve. It's just you
know that that the study with the under twelves m
has you know, they extended the timeline out far enough
(31:43):
to catch the fall into negative efficacy, But if you
look at uh, you know, data on older people, it's
it's the same thing. So so with omicron, it's quite
clear that after after a couple of months um the
vaccine really stops being protective at all. And then it
looks like after a couple months after that your risk
of infection actually rises. Another you have a bigger risk
(32:06):
of being infected if you are vaccinated then if you're not.
And and they're like, there's you know, there's ways to
explain that that don't involve actual like biological changes of
the vaccine is making in you. For example, you know,
the vaccine advocates to say, oh, that's because people who
are vaccinated know they're vaccinated and they take more risks,
but that's probably not true. The reality is the vaccine
(32:30):
basically cause the original version of it, which is what
you have to get, even if you're getting this you know,
quote unquote bivalent booster, the original version of it causes
your body to make antibodies that are not really good
against the omicron spike, and so over time, as your
overall number of anybodies wanes, you're you fear to be
(32:53):
left with some that actually increase the risk of your infection.
It gets it gets complicated the details, but that's the
top line. The top line is that data is probably
correct and you're probably now at higher risk of omicron
in section if you're vaccinated. Then if not so is
essentially this is just going to go away and people
going to pretend that this whole thing never happened in
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your mind now because clearly kids are not getting these shots.
There's no mandates now. Even aggressive cities like New York
are doing away with much of their private vaccine mandate.
It seems like Biden wants to claim the pandemics over
because he needs to have something that he can claim
he didn't screw up, Like where are we in your
mind with these COVID shots? I think so, I think
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that's correct. I mean, the only sort of the black
swan would be if a new variant comes out that
is actually quite dangerous, and then the negative efficacy will
really matter. But you know your listeners, and you may
recall that I was sort of harping on that a
little bit more three or four months ago, and it
seems like that's less of a risk. Now seems that
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omicron is just is just dominant, and and omicron is
just not that dangerious to almost everybody, and so everybody's
gotten it. A lot of people have gotten it more
than once. Um, you know. And the other thing that's
happened is if you look at what's what are called
anti and the antibodies, so that's a different part of
the virus, which are very durable and which the vaccine
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does not cause you to make. You can only get
those after being infected and recovering. Um. The levels of
those in the population are now very high, so that's
actually probably protective as well. Whatever happens to the spike.
We all have these anti and antibodies helping us. And
there was a period of time when I was worried
that the vaccine would actually interfere with the generation of those,
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But it looks like the vaccine ultimately proves so useless
against omicron that you get it, and you get these
anti and antibodies, and that's good. So so just to
bring this full circle, the vaccines we're so crappy that
the good news is that people got COVID anyway and
now have natural immunity donna get that right you basically
that's correct, that is that's a piece I really need
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to write to the stack. But yes, that's basically what
has happened in the last six months. That's amazing. Alex
Barrens and everybody go check out his sub stack at
Clay and I are subscribers. It's been fantastic and he's
continued to work on this and it's it's not over.
If you listen to the the Biden administration, they're still pushing it.
Fauci's pushing it to Alex. Thank you so much man.
As always, we appreciate you a great pleasure. Guys. All right,
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so we talk about the fight for life on this
show a lot, and later on we're actually going to
discuss that there's now a push to say that fetal
heartbeat is not a real thing. This is now out there.
The left wing media is pushing this idea. They're saying
there is no such thing as fetal heartbeat. Really, it's
a made up it's a conspiracy. I'm not making this up.
The same people who relying on planned parenthood and the
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massive abortion industrial complex to lie to expect that mother
is constantly about what's really going on in their wounds.
They want abortion all nine months of a pregnancy. We
talk about issues, we talk about what we can do
as individuals, how we can vote. But what if I
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Welcome in Third Hour Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
I gotta say, Clay, that was quite a blast from
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the past to have Scott Bayo from Charles and Charge
Fame call in. I was awesome. I watched so much
of that show back in the day. I look, I
will say I had a huge crush on the actress
I can't remember her name now, who was one of
the one of the the you know what I'm talking about,
one of the actresses in that I was a teenager.
She was like, you know, probably in her twenties at
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the time. I can't remember her name now. I was
in love with And this is more embarrassing than that.
Um oh, Lissa Milano on Who's the Boss back in
the day, and she miss Milano, she oh, I interviewed her.
Where did you meet her? I interviewed her when I
was working at HILLTV on guns and stuff like that.
And I will tell you, Clay, she would not approve
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of a lot of what mister Travis, mister Clays, our
relationship would not go well. Nicole Eggert was that yes, yes,
yes she was. She was on Baywatch too, wasn't she.
I mean sure, maybe possibly. She and Pamela Anderson have
made many young men aware that they are heterosexual in
their lives. There are a lot of some of those
girls you see on television for the first time, You're like, wow,
(39:04):
she's really pretty. That is she and she and Pamela Anderson,
we're quite the tandem back in the day. We also
have to get to this hour. A few things that
I want to make sure we talk about. Come back
to the immigration issue if we can. We've We've got
Jerome Powell, Clay, we got to touch on this later.
Jerome Powell on the economy, Jerome Power. He's at the
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phase now where he's we'll do this in a few minutes.
But he's telling everybody get ready for it, like it's
gonna get ugly out there. They can't hide this anymore. Really.
The Democrats are trying and trying and telling people, oh
but look at remember and they're saying, look at the
unemployment numbers. Yeah, let's see where the unemployment number is
in three months. Let's see where that inflation number is
in three months. We'll we'll dive into this in a second,
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because there's something that I mean, this is a real
moment here, folks. Stacy Abrams is looking like she's going
to lose yet again. And there are some questions for
the governor's race and George as to whether she will
retain her title of the fake Governor of Georgia or
she will relinquish her fake so bad, Buck, I want
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to know how you and I were talking about this
off air, because how is she going to handle her loss?
Because when she lost by fifty thousand votes in twenty eighteen,
she claimed that the election was rigged against her and that,
as you said, she was the fake governor of Georgia,
she might lose by ten points in Georgia. I mean,
this is not The Atlanta Journal Constitution has her down
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by eight. Marist had her down by eleven. She's run
an atrocious campaign and is getting destroyed. So here she is.
She's on a panel. She was on a panel where
I'm trying to make sure that I find what this
panel was exactly about. But she was on a panel
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and she said about the issue of fetal heartbeat. Right,
remember the missus the Mississippi law, that one all that
the Supreme Court had to do with with fetal heartbeat.
Here is Stacey Abrahams, who wants to be the next
governor of Georgia. You know, I just want people to
hear it and then we will analyze. Here's what she
says about fetal heartbeat sound design control. So let's say
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what we said there because some people might not have
heard it that clearly because that audio is not perfect.
She said that the heartbeat that you hear on a
sonogram is not real. It's manufactured, designed to take away
women's rights to make a choice by men. I'm paraphrase here.
I have the quote. It is a manufactured sound designed
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to convince people that men have the right to take
control of a woman's body. I mean, I don't say
this lightly. This is deranged. This is deranged. And I
shared that video clip and I'm getting attacked because people
are saying, oh, what are you talking. Look, here's what
I will say, And maybe we can open up phone
lines for other people who have had the opportunity eight
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hundred two A two two eight eight two. You just
heard what Stacy Abram said for many of us. And
I will put myself in this camp. I've got three boys.
And when you get to go and hear the heartbeat
and find out the sex and all of the other
things that a sonogram provides, it is a unbelievable experience
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that I hope everybody out there who is a parent, Buck,
I hope you get to experience it one day. It's
an unbelievable moment to get to be there with your
spouse and see for the first time inside of her
pregnant stomach that baby, and here at heartbeat right, and
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then going on and being able to see what the
sex is going to be if you decide to find
out in advance, and all those things. For Stacy Abrahams
to argue that essentially the ultrasound, the sonogram, and the
heartbeat the first time that you hear the heartbeat is
not real and is manufactured so that men believe they
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can essentially control women's bodies is so outrageous and outlandish.
Now she also believe she's saying she's wrong on many levels.
And for one thing, men are often the ones who
are very supportive of the abortion movement because they want
to be able to push or coerce or convince a woman. Hey,
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you know, you know what it's so so there's no
there are lots of yes, yeah, no exactly sex with
no consequence. There are a lot. There are a lot
of women out there who have children who are ardently
pro life, and many of them, millions of them listen
to this program. But Stacy Abrams's what she's trying to
argue here, apart from the craziest thing, which is that
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this is about men controlling women's bodies, that's just the
rhetoric of planned parenthood and the lies that are all
around this. But also okay, so it's cardiac tissue in
a fetus that is pulsating rhythmically. As so she's essentially
trying to say, because it's not a full grown heart
within a order and the different the different chambers of
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the heart and all the rest of it, that it's
not actually a heartbeat. You know, at some point this
starts to be Okay, it's a brain stem and the
feat is, but it's not a fully developed brain. So
does that mean that it's you know, what are they
going to call it? This gets to where the life
begins debate, and it also gets to the way that
they try to control with language. What is so obvious?
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I mean, Clay, to your point, what when you saw
your your child, when you saw you know, your boys
in the womb, you were seeing life that is actually
it is. It is an incredise. And that's why I
said to open up the phone lines, like, however you
want to classify what exactly the heart? However you want
to medically define a heartbeat and all those things, the
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idea that the ultrasound and the sonogram and the entire
process is designed to give men control over women's bodies
is frankly an insult because my wife's gynecologist and the
woman who delivered her our baby is a woman, right,
and so are very many of the people who are
working in these fields. To share the first image, but
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like many parents out there, you want that printed off, right.
I mean, I would bet a huge percentage of our
parents and grandparents in this audience have looked at the
sonogram of their unborn child and just been And I'll
tell you what I was. It's the baby. I was
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your baby. Disbelief that you could see that, right, the
idea that you put the little cream or whatever it
is on the stomach and yes, yes, I mean it.
It is magical that moment, that experience. And for Stacy
Abrahams to be in the closing part of her campaign,
lookbuck she uh said that Georgia was the worst state
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in the nation. She memorably we talked a lot about this,
wore no mask when all the kids around her had
to wear a mask. I mean, her entire campaign has
been a disaster, but for her closing argument to be
all of you who think you're hearing your baby's heartbeat
are actually just members of the patriarchy who are having
men's control of women bodies. This is one of the
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most tone depth things that I have ever seen a
politician say. I can tell you, especially in a state
like Georgia. I think it is calculated on her behalf
insofar as she's going to need the CNN executives and
the publishing houses and etc. Of the Democrat apparatus much
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more than the Democrat voter because she's gonna lose, and
this is essentially locking her in for a future of
left wing speaking engagements. She's going to become essentially a
celebrity of the Democrat apparatus instead of an actual viable politician,
at least for a period of time. So this is pandering,
I think, to the planned parenthood apparatus and on all
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the rest of it. In the final moments here and
keep in mind, Clay she said on the View last week,
she said on the View, maybe we can even track
down this audio abortion at nine months of her pregnancy.
Anytime you talk to somebody about this who's a liberal, Look,
that's not a thing, and it doesn't happen, and nobody
that is a lie. It is a thing. It is
a thing in the law, and it is something that
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Stacy Abrams said that she supports. In fact, she said
the quote is until time of birth in some cases,
which is another way of saying Stacy Abrams believes that
a baby in the ninth month of a pregnancy forty
weeks we know. However, however, you're going to gauge this
is not a baby, is not a human being. How
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does she explain this? She can't. And I thought jd Vance,
who we had on last hour, actually did a good
job of explaining this because his opponent in that Senate race,
Tim Ryan, has said the same thing essentially as Stacey Abrams,
which is nine month abortions are okay, just like Stacey
Abrams did. In other words, she supports abortion to the
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limits of the law, and that's not where the vast
majority of the American population is. Most Americans believe that
first trimester, in some way there should be a line
drawn where exactly people can agree and disagree, and some
people believe that there should be no limits at all
for rape and incest health of another. Everybody has a
variety of different opinions there After the first trimester, it
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is actually an incredible minority position to believe, and by
the time you get to third trimester, only about ten
percent of Americans believe that that should be legal. We
have a lot of we have experts, We have people
that run sonograms who are calling, Okay, this is I
Am I an idiot? Or is this a pretty I
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just want to hear from everybody else out there who
has experienced this. When I saw this Stacy Abrams quote,
my jaw dropped. Maybe I'm just all the movies, by
the way, where the you know, the husband and the
wife or the you know, the boyfriend the girlfriend. They
go to the doctor's office and the doctor goes, look,
you can see your baby's heartbeat. It's the patriarchy. It's
a conspiracy. I like, I legitimately my jaw dropped when
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I saw her say this. I mean, apparently they should
go in there and the doctor is supposed to say,
you know, it's just it's just a clump of cells.
Oh okay. Sure, we'll get back into this with some
of the experts who are on the lines here in
a second. The FED said they were gonna do it,
my friends, and they did it yesterday. They delivered another
increase in the interest rate they had the expected effect
in Walster. Of course, another down day. Stock's getting crossed.
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