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November 18, 2022 58 mins
The Lib Media is so worried about how Elon Musk is destroying Twitter. Woke liberal indoctrination is prevalent even at schools in red states. Ned Ryun joins Buck to go over the 2022 midterm elections. Breaking News - Merrick Garland names special counsel in criminal probe of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome and everybody to the Friday edition
of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck.
I'm gonna be solo today. My main man, Clay out
on a vacation day. We'll have a lot to talk
about here, the future of the GOP obviously in the

(00:22):
aftermath of the midterm election, House investigations looming, the immigration
illegal immigration disaster from her wide open border continues. We
shall discuss some troubling indicators in the economy, inflation, the
cult of Nancy Pelosi. Will it actually become creepier and

(00:44):
weirder than the cult of Ruth Vader Ginsburg was? If
you recall, and I'm sure some of you do, Because
Nancy Pelosi, as we know, is no longer going to
be Speaker of the House, She's not even going to
run for leadership, and she's basically eighty years old. I
don't think she's likely to be Speaker again. I don't
think she's going to run for leadership again. And you

(01:06):
will remember that there was a time when Ruth Bader Ginsberg,
who was at that time, May she rest in peace.
She was a tiny and frail old lady, and there
were people who were doing videos of her amazing workout routine,
and there were little Ruth Bader Ginsburg dolls being sold

(01:27):
and people talking about how she could do you know,
a thousand chin ups with one arm or whatever. No,
but there was a cult built around her because it
was about the power of the Democrat Party, and there
will be a cult built around Nancy Pelosi as well.
In fact, what's funny is here you have MSNBC's Mika

(01:48):
of Mika and Joe Infamy saying that unless you were
in a cult, you better Unless you're in a cult,
you recognize that Nancy Pelosi is worthy of a cult
because she is so amazing play clip two. That's the
end of an era and an incredible one. And I mean,
whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, it's sort of

(02:11):
hard not to be in awe of what she has
accomplished unless you're in a cult. Unless you're in a cult,
so you better join the cult of Pelosi, or else
you're in the non Pelosi cult or something like that.
It makes absolutely no sense. But Nancy Pelosi, if we're
looking at her legacy and leadership drag the Democrat Party

(02:32):
to the hard left. We all know this. It's obvious.
Nancy Pelosi was somebody who was an extremist just on
the issue of abortion, for example, any reason, all nine months,
taxpayer funding for it, all of the above, everything, and
would describe herself as extremely Catholic. So yes, Nancy Pelosi

(02:54):
was in so many ways a huge fraud, but she
did wheeldpower ruthlessly, as essentially the quintessential San Francisco liberal
right lives in a super fancy, multi multimillion dollar mansion
worth tens of millions of dollars. The good news, though,
is that Nancy Pelosi, no longer in leadership, will focus

(03:18):
her time on I'm sure a number of things, but
the pursuit of using non public information to make as
much money in the stock market as possible, because she's
been They've been great at that. If you look at
Nancy Pelosi's returns, and members of Congress have access to
non public information. Somehow, Pelosi, if you were mirroring the

(03:39):
Pelosi family trades, you've done very well in the stock market.
It's fascinating now that happens. She's like a Chenius's like
Warren Buffett with longer hair. But this is what we're
told anyway, The big the big thing for me last
night though, And we'll talk more about Pelosi a little
bit later. And also if you have any if you
have any thoughts about the Pelosi era or anything else

(04:00):
going on right now, the phone lines are open eight
hundred two eight two to eight eight two. The meltdown
at Twitter is utterly fascinating. And I understand that of
the people listening to this on radio or pod or
later on in the day in podcast, there's a very
small percentage over all of you that are active on Twitter.

(04:23):
But Twitter is really the single most for people in
the media, for people that make a living in content
and trying to spread information ideas. It is the most interactive,
and it's really the only place where the two sides
of the ideological battlefield meet in any meaningful way. It
doesn't really happen on cable news anymore. I remember growing

(04:46):
up watching cable news shows like Crossfire, and you know,
on Fox they'd have great debates, you know, I remember,
like you know, there are so many Christopher Hitchins going
on Hannity Show, and people all these different names in
the past, big debates on TV never happens anymore. This
just doesn't happen anymore, and so one of the only

(05:06):
places where there's actual engagement in the battlefield of ideas
is on Twitter. Now. The left, as you know, has
had a massive hand on not even a thumb, like
an entire fist, pressing down on the scale for their side.
And this manifested itself most clearly right before the twenty

(05:29):
twenty election with the infamous but very very intentional suppression
of the Hunter Biden laptop story with the fifty intelligence professionals.
Oh yeah, we're a real serious intelligence professionals, you know,
decades and decades and super secret squirrel stuff. We're telling

(05:50):
you that's Russian disinformation. And people all across the country
who are honest and capable of independent thought immediately thought
to themselves, Okay, that's ridiculous. It's some you know, Oleg
and Uri FSB guys in a basement somewhere outside of Moscow.
Will let's take the photos of Hunter and wheel doctor them.

(06:13):
So he's almost in the tide. Whitey's all the time
with the handguns, sometimes lots of drugs, cocaine, all the no,
that's that's not actually what happened, as we all know,
as as good as anybody may think, the Russian Domestic
Intelligence Service may be at its mischief, the FSB, the

(06:34):
Federal Nayaz Nasty for those of you who want to
know what the acronym actually is stands for. It was not,
it was not. In fact, it was not Russian disinformation
as we know, and that itself may very well have
made the difference in the election. I think everyone is
waking up now more than ever to the reality of

(06:55):
what the American political electorate looks like, which is, you've
got a mass on one side of the ideological divide,
a mass on the other left and right, lib Conservative, Democrat, Republican,
and then this tiny, tiny sliver of people who can

(07:15):
be persuaded one way or the other, who may or
may not vote, and we are fighting over one percent
of voters. Basically, all this stuff that you hear going on,
I mean. And so that's I think why there's so
much of an echo chamber effect, because especially on the left,
they figure if we can just get our message out,

(07:36):
blasted out the most, we will eventually win, just through
the sheer force of words and repetition. So here we
are now looking at Twitter, a place where they've had
unfair dominance, not through their actual ideas. And there are
more libs on Twitter than there are on than there

(07:57):
are conservatives, that's all. That's also true, that's accurate, but
they've had active measures taken on their side to make
sure that they are more dominant and understand that there are.
The news cycle is often driven, so if you're a
whether a local newspaper subscriber, you know, like my dad
still kicks at old school. He likes newspapers, right, He'll

(08:19):
fold them out, he can do all that stuff. You
give me a newspaper, I get tangled up in it.
You know, I look like I'm trying to sleep in it.
I can't handle actual newspaper. I'm I'm digital native, so
I've been doing you know, the website since I was
a teenager. Now that's where I get my news. And
here we are looking at how Twitter filters into all

(08:41):
these different platforms. Whether you're reading at old school news, website,
cable news, it often comes from that platform. That's one
of the first places where breaking news happens. That's one
of the first places where ideas start percolating where the
narrative starts getting formed. So it is in that sense enormously.
It has been called the assignment editor for The New

(09:03):
York Times by many in the past. Twitter think about
that biggest, most storied newspaper in America, obviously also a
left wing rag, but the New York Times, the Gray Lady,
gets its ideas, gets its narrative for the day from
this website started by a bunch of you know, Silicon
Valley guys. That's what's been going on now for about

(09:24):
the last decade, and so now it is in Elon's
hands and it is epic. It is amazing to watch
what is going on here. Mass resignations yesterday. You have
people who are exposing so much of what they think
and what they really are, both inside and outside the company.

(09:47):
For one thing, this is you have to start with this.
You have journos who overwhelmingly have humanities degree, you know, communications,
God forbid, but it's true journalism itself, gender studies, things
like this, who are smugly lecturing Elon Musk, who's worth

(10:13):
two hundred billion dollars roughly give or take. I guess
maybe one hundred and fifty now because he bought Twitter,
but whatever, the richest man in the world, who sends
rockets into space more efficiently than NASA, who has revolutionized
the global electric vehicle markets so that electric cars aren't
just glorified go carts, they're actually cool. I've been in Teslas.
I gotta say I like them, and it's not because

(10:36):
I'm saving the planet from COO two. I just like them.
They're really cool. They're good cars. Now, there's a lot
that needs to be done with the infrastructure to make
sure you got the charging stations and all that. But
you have people who have never seen a balance sheet,
who would basically describe themselves over a couple of bottles
of Zema as socialists talking about how Elon Musk doesn't

(10:59):
know how to run Twitter. Elon's destroying Twitter. Look what
he's doing, It's all going down. No, no, in fact,
what you see. Oh actually, here's a perfect example. A
CNN media reporter is just saying Elon is gutting Twitter,
He's routing it, he's destroying it. Play cut fifteen, sir,
what the hell is going on here? Did he buy

(11:20):
a company that he could not afford, or that he
does not understand, or that he really didn't want. I mean,
that's the million or forty four billion dollar question. I'm
not sure I can get an Elon Musk's head. The
question is is there a strategy at all of this?
I think can you talk to people who are close
with Elon, they would say that there is a strategy.
Of course, he wants to improve the platform. He wants

(11:40):
to disrupt it and create a subscription service for instance.
It's just that he's moving so fast. He is just
breaking everything in the process. I mean, there's something to
be said about people who take risks and move fast
and break things. But in this case, he is just,
you know, destroying the platform, seemingly from the inside. Yes,
let's let's take entrepreneurship advice for a bunch of TV

(12:03):
news anchors who truly could not run a child's lemonade
stand on a Saturday afternoon on a sunny day. Let's
take advice from them. Let's hear what they have to
say about this social media platform that has three hundred
million active users, give or take, and that has been

(12:24):
the single really in recent years. Certain and by the way,
it's because of Trump. People always forget this. Twitter became
the center of the news formation universe under Trump, because
he'd wake up in the morning and he would tweet
out five things, ten things, whatever it was, and then
that would set the news cycle for the day. You

(12:45):
couldn't be in the media and covering the news and
not have some idea of what was going on Twitter
because of what Trump did. So Trump ironically push this
platform into into the stratosphere in terms of elephants. But
what we found out was that then they had to
shut it down and use it against shut him down

(13:06):
and use the platform and every way they could for
partisan advantage. So what you have now are a bunch
of cry babies who when they get emails from Elon
saying you have to be hardcore in your work ethic,
Oh my god, Like where's my work life balance? Like
I am used to coming in every day at eleven
am with my pet therapist meeting me because I'm obviously

(13:27):
bringing in my favorite shitsu along with me, and we're
talking about like, oh my gosh, like what are we
going to do today? They're all whining and crying and
the whole thing. You know, you don't need people like
that to run a company. You actually don't. But they
infiltrated the HR department, and then they took over the
Diversity and Inclusion department, and then they took over the

(13:49):
corporate suite. And now it's all about, you know how
everybody has to get their you know, vegan sushi rolls
made for them for their three hour lunches every day.
I mean, you could see they're these videos about this.
There are actual videos where people show what their day
is like in Twitter, so many of you see, here's
the thing. I worked in the federal government, right, I
worked in the CIA, which is a massive entity, and

(14:12):
there are much bigger ones. Obviously, if you work the
Department of Defense, you know you've worked in a place
that's orders of magnitude larger. But you work in a
huge bureaucracy. What does everybody know? In a huge bureaucracy,
Everybody who's there, who's honest, will say ten percent of
the people do ninety percent of the essential work, and
thirty or forty percent of the people do all the
actual work, and then everybody else is just kind of there.

(14:37):
This is just true of bureaucracy. Elon is applying that
basic logic and understanding which he knows from running companies
and doing amazing things, and the libs are in panic
about it, absolute panic about it. Oh, he's going to
destroy the whole company. It's been a couple of weeks.
Chill out, libs, how about that? But see they can't
because they know that once the battlefield of idea is

(15:00):
online opens up in a meaningful way, once the accounts
get restored. You know, if President Trump wants to come back,
Ron Descantist maybe gets really active on Twitter, you name it.
I mean, there are lots of people that have been
kicked off, and Ron obviously hasn'ten kicked off on Twitter,
but there are lots of big names out there who
could get really active. So it is a fascinating case

(15:21):
study in how they need control because their propaganda is
not persuasive without information dominance, information space and dissemination dominance.
And you know, I'm telling you about all these libs
who are just so upset because a lot of them,
a lot of them have some kind of a hormonalum balance.
A lot of the guys who work at Twitter need

(15:43):
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(16:48):
This is Buck. I am in solo today and I'm
down in Palm Beach, Florida. I will be going to
see some friends and the big guy himself up at
Mara Lago. Well just kind of down the street. I
suppose at mar Lago, and there's an event there tonight,
so I'll get a chance to see forty five, chat

(17:11):
with some friends of the program and others who will
be there as well. I want to tell you a
story if I can about As you know, I love history.
This one really sticks with you when you learn it.
You might have heard the name Pavlik Morozov. Pavlock Morozov.

(17:35):
Does that ring a bell. Pavlock Morozov was born in
well what is now Russia, what was then Russia then
became the Soviet Union, and he was the son of
poor peasants. But he was the leader of the Communist
youth in his village. And he was about twelve years

(17:57):
old when his father, who was the leader This is
back in nineteen thirty. His father was the leader of
the local Soviet Soviet means counsel in England's wondering and
or a small collective of people coming together to make decisions.
His father was the leader of the local Soviet in

(18:18):
his town, and twelve year old Pavlik thought that his
dad was an enemy of the Stalidist revolution underway, and
so he publicly denounced him, denounced him for being too
favorable to the Kulaks. Now, the Kulaks were essentially the

(18:40):
landowning farmer class that became well. They were liquidated by
murdered on mass by the Soviet regime. But young Pavlick
Morozov thought that his father was insufficiently devoted to the revolution,
so he denounced to his own father and denounce his

(19:02):
own family's own parents publicly, and he was then killed
by kolas and glorified as a martyr by the Soviet regime.
So he was glorified by them because the idea was

(19:22):
the ideology is all that matters your family, your parents,
None of that has any bearing. All that matters is
the revolution. All that matters is collectivism, communism. That's it. Now,
when you look at some of these stories, one obviously
that that as a tool of propaganda, was meant to
break down family bonds. You know, breakdown family, breakdown gender,

(19:47):
the very bonds that a civilization should be built upon.
Even before the state and all of our legislation and
all the rest of it. Family is first. Well, if
you want total and absolute control, you have to break
down the family, and you have to come up with
ideological and ideological framework that turns people against their own family, right.

(20:14):
I mean, I'm sure there are so many people this
audience who would I would describe myself as a patriot.
I would not turn on my family for anyone or
any government. Right. Well, you see this, though, You see this,
and you will see this even next week at the
Thanksgiving table. I'm afraid in some of your households where
someone perhaps a younger member of your extended family, a

(20:36):
niece and nephew, you know, second cousin phil or a
third cousin Phyllis or whatever do we do third? I
guess there are third cousins. No one ever really pays
attention to third cousins, but they may all of a
sudden want to launch into some lecture about how this
midterm election was the defeat of the threat to our
democracy and white supremacy and all these other things. These

(20:58):
phrases the sloganeering of the woke left. And you might
think yourself, can we just eat our Thanksgiving dinner and
enjoy time with family, which is so precious? And I'm
only forty, but I know as I get older, this
is the stuff that actually matters who you are and
what you do to take care of and help the

(21:20):
people who matter in your life, who you're interacting with
day in, day out. That's all that really matters. And
all this other stuff people get all caught up in, Oh,
how many social media followers do I have? Oh, am,
I am, I gonna get that bonus at work or
whatever pales in comparison when you have the perspective of
knowing that your family and the people who matter in
your life are what matters in your life. But so,

(21:43):
why do some people come to the Thanksgiving dinner wanting
to not just exchange of ideas? Is great? I've done
I've done shows with liberals, and I've always parted, meaning
co hosted shows in the past where I was with
a leftist Bernie Sanders supporting leftists. I've always left on

(22:05):
friendly terms, didn't agree with anything, but I left unfriendly
terms because I'll speak to anybody who is civil and
wants to share ideas, but would you may come across
are people who want to tell you that if you
don't agree, you're a bad person, and they will be
illogical in their arguments, and they will say things that
are just untrue and obtuse, but it'll sound like it

(22:28):
comes directly from not just MSNBC and CNN on the
editorial pages of the New York Times, but these TikTok
influencers and these social justice advocates online, and the people
that are teaching seminars on critical race theory and the
diversity educators. You'll say, wait a second, it sounds like

(22:50):
you're just parroting, You're just mouthing the preferred slogans here.
Have you ever thought this one through? And I'm thinking
about this today one because some of you are going
to be dealing with that of Thanksgiving, My family was
such a good time at things. Everyone just we're all
just so happy to be together and so blessed to
that everyone right now in my family, thank God, is
doing well and healthy. And I'm sure so many of

(23:11):
you have the same. But you know, other years, I've
had grandparents passed, We've had different situations and that's just life,
that's what happens. But overall, we're just so happy to
all be together. Yeah, we'll talk about movies and we'll
talk about favorite books and things like that. Maybe a
little bit of politics, but no one's showing up. No
one shows up in my family to get into a
spat and certainly not to be nasty to anybody. We

(23:33):
would just never allow that. But I know what happens
to so many of my friends. I know that happens
to so many people. You may have seen an extreme
example of this, a modern day Pavlick Morosov denouncing the
parents situation that has gone viral this week again on
social media. There is a billionaire auto loans magnate named

(23:58):
Donald Fosse. He died unfortunately in August of a very
aggressive cancer that's happened. Obviously, cancer has taken so many,
so many of our loved ones over the years, and
this is something that you would just say, obviously, thoughts
and prayers for his family, and well, it turns out

(24:19):
one member of his family his youngest daughter, Samantha, nineteen
years old. I'm just wondering, before I tell you where
this is going, do any of you want to guess?
Does Samantha go by plural pronouns? He answered, yes, you
got that one right, they does. Samantha his daughter, who
is an adult, So don't give me the old but

(24:40):
she's just a kid. She's an adult. She's nineteen years old.
She wanted to speak publicly about this, she shared it.
She's proud of it. Okay, well, let's talk because this
is the indoctrination that colleges and universities are doing to
your kids all across the country right now. And TikTok
and social media. You are fighting against the apparatus. It

(25:00):
is more slick, it is more entertaining than the Soviet version,
but it really isn't all that different in what it
is trying to bring about, the division and destruction of families,
the division and destruction of the load bearing walls of
our civilization. You know, things like gender, male roles, female roles, mom, dad,

(25:21):
all this kind of stuff. If you can get someone
to attack their own parents, to denounce their own parents.
By the way, this was at the heart of the
cultural revolution in Maoist China as well. It's not unique
to the Soviet Union. And the very term itself brainwashing
comes from a transliteration of the Chinese for washing of

(25:46):
the brain that occurred during the culture revolution, as in
you had to just believe what they said, say what
they said, and that included turning in your own family members.
So billionaire Auto Loane's guy Donald Fass he dies his
daughter's nineteen years old. She describes herself as a black supremacist. Oh,
his his wife is African American, So this is his daughter. Okay,

(26:13):
this is his daughter. His wife was black, his daughter
is bi racial. And she is at her father's funeral.
And this is the kind of stuff she says at
the funeral of her own dad and then promotes publicly
and celebrates when it goes viral. Play the clip, and

(26:44):
that is all you are is a racist, misogynist, cis
gender trump loving white man dripping here with her own racism, actually,
with her own venom, with her own hatred. And you
might be wondering, young Samantha, who is already being celebrated,

(27:06):
just like Pavlik by the communes, by the commissars, Young
Samantha here being celebrated by the left ultra viral this
week for denouncing her father. Did she grow up in hardship?
What kind of what kind of racism was she subjected to? Again,
her by all accounts, loving father who married her mother,

(27:28):
her mother, who is black. She's calling this man a racist.
There's a lot of bizarre going on here, right, a
lot of will hold on a second loving to his daughter.
She grew up in a seven million dollar home and
goes to a sixty thousand dollars a year private college that,
of course him and his estate are now paying for
in Georgia and had nothing but not just advantages the

(27:52):
lap of luxury. She is a spoiled bratt. But it's
worse than that. It's worse than that because her mind,
her brain has been washed. The brainwashing has occurred the
commissars and their TikTok videos and their their posts on Twitter,

(28:14):
and all of the constant CRT and the racial divisiveness
that has become so important to the left because this
is what their power is based on identity politics. It
has been so infused in this young woman's brain that
she would stand at her father's funeral and it gets
She says even worst off, completely denounces him, all, doesn't

(28:36):
love him, doesn't miss him, total disgrace because he's a
Trump voter. Now you could say he's a white cis
gender man, where she uses day pronounced white cis gender man.
And she has nothing to say but the just the
venomous defamation of her own loving father in public. She

(28:58):
didn't say he was abusive, she didn't say he was
calling people racial slurk. She had no basis for this
hatred at all, other than this man shares the beliefs
about America and politics that I and so many of
you share, and that she hates him that much. What
do you think she thinks about you and me? By
the way, and for anyone who's saying this is just

(29:20):
one can obviously confused I'm using plural pronounce shore, obviously
confused nineteen year old woman. The Left celebrates this, They
say she she is the real deal. She's like the
Antifa of wokeness. You see, she's a shock troop. She'll
denounce her own father. She's Pavlick Morosov part two. She'll

(29:44):
throw her own family under the bus for wokeness. If
you don't think that this is being taught to your
own children right now in schools and even more potently
in many ways online and by the apparatus, you're not
seeing what's going on. And I know many of you
do see it. I know I know you do recognize this.

(30:06):
But I'm just for anybody out there who has any doubts.
For everyone who's saying, oh buck, I live in I
love in a red staying things are more normal here
in the school. Really, what do you think it's like online?
What do you think the YouTube influencers who spend more
time talking to your kid most likely day in and
day out than anybody else, What do you think they're saying, Oh,
if your parents voted for Trump or their Republicans, or

(30:28):
they don't support transgender affirmation surgery for twelve year olds,
they're monstrous, not just not just to disagree with them,
to actually openly hate them. Why Because, as I told you,
they want total control, and the only way they can
have total control is if they break down the most

(30:49):
foundational of human bonds and love between family members. This
is the left in America today. I know it's disconcerting,
but it is the truth. We're just talking about how
they're brainwashing your kids all over the place. I don't
want to just leave that out there and not give
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we've been drilling down on this one. I want to

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bring somebody into the mix here who's both a good
friend of mine, close to President Trump and his top advisors,
and knows what it means to put a ground game
in place and how elections are one. Our friend, Ned Ryan,
he is the founder of American Majority. He is with
us now. Ned, always appreciate you having you. Yeah, no,

(32:58):
good to be on with you books. And there's been
a lot of questions and a little soul searching since
last Tuesday, and I think I think I have come
up with the conclusion of what actually happened and what
we should be doing moving forward. I know you've got
a piece that's going up shortly, and I don't want
to get too much of it out there on the erics.

(33:19):
I want you to be able to publish it and
then direct people to it. But you write in this
piece net. After sifting through a lot of rebels since
last Tuesday, and having done some soul searching on even
basic knowledge of politics, I've come to a few conclusions.
American politics has entered a new age. All that has
gone before, polls, historical trends, message issues, candidate quality, traditional

(33:42):
get out the vote, debates, persuasion mean almost nothing and
is extremely insignificant. Tell us what you mean. So after
Virginia last year where I'm at, I'm based in western
Loudon County, obviously ground zero on school board fights and
a blue state. I mean, Biden won this state by

(34:03):
ten points in twenty twenty, and then last year we
beat them. We beat the Democrats on every front. We
took the governor, we took lieutenant governor, we took attorney general,
we took the House of Delegates. In what I would
describe a more traditional go out and find the mid
to low propensity voters, get them to the polls. You win,

(34:24):
and we won. We won everything, And I think that
really led to me and others being over confidence coming
into twenty twenty two based off those results. It led
us to have the wrong conclusions that we could beat
what they put in place in twenty twenty with what
we did in twenty twenty one. I think there were
two things that came out of that book. I think

(34:46):
we were over confidence. I think we had the wrong conclusions,
and I think the left got panicked. I think they
redialed in their efforts from twenty twenty and said we're
going to really figure out our early mail in absentee
ballot ballot harvesting approach. And they did. And that's why

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I say we've entered into a completely new era in politics.
As a lot of us noticed, Democrats were not debating.
I mean, he was very limited debates. Katie Hoppson never
even debated in the gubernatorial in Arizona. Shapiro never debated
in the Pennsylvania gubernatorial Very odd behavior because they realize
that the new era of politics is ballots out, ballots

(35:29):
in machine. And as appalling as some might find it,
I think that's that is the game. There's no way
you're gonna win as a Republican in twenty twenty four
of the presidential I don't care who you are. I've
told others that the skies opened and Jesus came down
and ran as the Republican nominee. I'm not sure he
could win if he didn't have a ballot out, ballot

(35:52):
in machine. And I think we have to really come
to grips with that and go moving forward for the
next two years. We better put in place that machine
or I think we're going to see more losses in
twenty twenty four, even though I truly believe most of
the American people agree with us on the economy, on inflation,
a lot of these cultural issues. We will not win

(36:14):
unless we get the functional aspect of this down, and
I intend to do that over the next two years. So, Ned,
you were at Maral Lago. I think it was on
Tuesday for the announcement, right? And President Trump. I don't
want to overstate this or whatever. Ned's a humble guy.
He probably woudn't say this was a president Trump likes
and trusts Ned because Ned knows what he's talking about

(36:34):
on this stuff, and he obviously runs American majority. Ned.
Does President Trump get it? And is he on board
because he's already announced. Does he understand what you're talking
about here with how it has to happen? Does he
already get the message? And what would it look like?
So this kind of a two parter, right, does Trump
get it right? And then also just more generally for

(36:56):
the Republicans, for any Republican running in any race, what
does it look like to get this right? So there
are a couple of things. First of all, I was
there that did not meet with Trump personally, but I
haven't informed Susie Wiles, who will say she'll be running
the campaign, even though I think Chris Watsadida will have

(37:17):
the campaign manager title. Susie Wiles is the power behind
the throne. We've missed connecting over the last couple of days.
I want to have this conversation with Trump and with
Susie and others that if you do not commit to
this vocally and with significant funds, I think we're in trouble.
I think anybody who wants to run in twenty twenty four,

(37:37):
if they do not commit to this, will be in trouble.
We can have the best issues, we can have the
best candidates, we can have everything going in our favor.
If we do not commit to this, we will lose.
And I think that's part of the message. And I
think I want to see some real commitment to that,
not only financially but vocally, because I think there's going
to have to be an education cycle in which we
get more of the grassroots buying in. I think a

(37:58):
lot of them have already bought in Buck. I do
know that there's some resistance and hesitation, but it has
to happen. And why can we can we expand on
that for a second, ned because even I get you know, constant,
there's this constant feedback I get from from this audience
all across the country, people writing in, you know, sending
me Facebook messages, emails, and I do I read a

(38:19):
lot of them. Like I don't always get to all them,
but I do read a lot of them. I think
people are surprised how many I read. And and there's
this sense of, well, there's the hesitation to want to
do what has been done by Democrats, even if we
all agree that it's legal right it is actually by
the letter of the law. I'm not talking about the
illegal Shenani and stuff. That's a separate conversation and we

(38:40):
can have that one. But for the I don't want
to do the ballots out, ballots in strategy, meaning you know, registration,
mail out the ballots, mail in the ballots, harvest the ballots,
all of that. What's the hesitation Is it just tradition.
Is it just a sense that it shouldn't be this way.
I think there's a real hesitation about it shouldn't be

(39:01):
this way. It is And I'll even mention this in
my new piece that you alluded to, that it's going
to run at am Greatness dot Com. I think people go, well,
this is corrupt, this is right for fraud, this is
right for all sorts of Shenanigans. Yes, one hundred percent.
And then my next question is how do you intend
to actually do anything differently and change the laws in

(39:22):
places like Michigan where they control everything. In Pennsylvania and
all these other important rust belt states. You can't do
it unless you actually adopt their strategy. What would it
look like? We're speaking of Ned Ryan of American Greatness, Ned?
What is it? What happens if we get people to
heed the message here and you get the grassroots activists

(39:45):
for the GOP that you know, you get conservative activists
mobilized in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, you name it. What
are the things that they're doing and how do they
do it? It looks like Florida and another aspect that
this piece will be buck Ask yourself, how did Republicans
win in a state that until very very recently was

(40:08):
a D plus registration state, that was Florida until literally
the last year. How did Republicans keep on winning for decades?
They embraced the fact that I think it's thirty to
forty percent of Florida votes by mail and has for years.
They've adopted their strategies to an early voting mail in
absentee ballot chase approach. There's no ballot harvesting or ballot boxes,

(40:32):
to be clear, in Florida. But a lot of these
main aspects have been perfected by Republican operatives in Florida,
many of whom I know, Susie Wiles being one of them,
her team. I think what it looks like is implementing
a lot of the Florida Republican plan in Arizona, in Nevada,
in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. Persuading the grace grass roots. This

(40:53):
has been done. It is fine. We must embrace it.
If we do not, we will lose. Then we can
have the conversation buck once we gain political power, and
we have to gain political power, we can have that
conversation about what we do movies forward. If we really
want to see our elections in America look like this,
that's the second conversation. You cannot have it until you

(41:14):
have the first conversation and embrace the first approach, which
is ballots out, ballots in and as you kind of mentioned,
that includes voter registration. You've got to get more names
onto the actual voter roles. You've got to get county clerks,
Republican county clerks universal mailout, even if they're not requested,
mail out a ballot to everyone in your county, and

(41:35):
then you've got to have a targeted approach to collect them.
The other thing I'll tell you too here in Lotton County,
because it's legal. Cornerstone Church where I attend it was
ballot harvesting last year. Churches need to ballot harvest, gun
shows need to ballot harvest. All of this needs to
take place where it is legal. We have to embrace it.
I don't see any other way to win in the
short term. Check out Ned's Peace going up soon at

(41:56):
American Greatness dot com. Will put up the link as
well at and Buck dot com so you can easily
find it. Ned important work and appreciate your analysis is
always my friend. We'll talk soon. Sound good, thanks, Buck.
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play Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. I
got breaking news for you, more breaking news today and
oh boy, any moment now, Attorney General A. Merrick Garland
will be holding a press conference. The press conference will

(44:07):
be so that he can name a special counsel in
the criminal probe of President Donald Trump, former President Trump.
This is what is going on right now, and it
is just like clockwork, isn't it. I want to note

(44:29):
before I even talk too much about what I think
is going to happen here and what their moves are,
let us just note something here. They will have had
a special counsel under the bush administration appointed. Notice, we
appoint special counsels or allow special counsels to be appointed,

(44:50):
even when we have the White House, right, this ends
up happening somehow. Oh, you know we had under Trump,
you had Jeff Sessions and recuse himself special counsel appointed
Bush administration. There was a special counsel looking into the
they always said looking in the leak. They knew who
leaked the name. They just pretended that they didn't know,

(45:11):
so they could open an investigation about national security. Was
also they could get Dick Cheney or Carl Rove. We
all know it. It was just a hunting expedition to
destroy one of those senior Bush administration officials. I bring
this up because now you've had the Muller special counsel
appointed while Trump was president, and another special counsel being

(45:34):
appointed while Trump is running. The shamelessness with which they
deploy lawfare against Trump, it can't be overstated. They just
don't care, folks. And I sit here and I tell
you a lot of people are all just wait, just wait,
any moment now there's going to be the big pushback

(45:54):
after the Muller Special Counsel against Donald Trump. They're gonna
find We're gonna see justice. People who lied about the
Russia collusion probe are gonna Nope, didn't happen. They got
away with it. I'm just here to tell you the truth.
It doesn't make me happy to say this, doesn't feel
good to have to say this out loud, but I'm

(46:16):
here to tell you what really went down in that
Special Council situation, and they were able to get away
with it. The Muller probe against Donald Trump for the left,
for the Democrats was not entirely successful, but it was
partially successful. Total success would have been the impeachment and

(46:39):
removal of Donald Trump from office and then the actual
criminal prosecution of him. That was what they were hoping
to do as crazy for not actually doing anything wrong. Remember,
they impeached him twice, one special counsel, two impeachments, and
now as I speak to you, they're going to name
a special counsel in the probe of Donald Trump for

(47:03):
the documents at Mara Lago. Way to say, hold on
a second, the special council's name is not being that two.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, hold on, hold the presses. These people,
these lives are so ruthless honestly, I mean, they're horrible,
but it's almost impressive how dirty they fight and how

(47:23):
disgraceful they are. Like you look at this, you say wow.
Two Department of Justice investigations of Donald Trump, according to
NBC News here, one is focused on whether Trump broke
the law and obstructed justice in connection with his removal
of hundreds of documents from the White House, which were

(47:44):
shipped to his residence at Mora Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida.
The other probe is related to the January six Capitol
riot by a mob of Trump supporters. Garland is going
to be making You know what, guys, we should should
take the top of this and join it in progress,
because this is just this is remarkable. They're setting up,

(48:06):
They've already had congressional hearings. The CNN has been running
the January sixth, minute by minute update for two years now.
And they're gonna They're gonna have not one, but two
special counsels appointed by Biden's DOJ to get Trump. This

(48:26):
is a full on get Trump operation. The guy announces
days later two special counsels appointed to invested. Remember this
is there has to be a criminal basis for this.
These are criminal investigations. They are suggesting with this that
there is the at least it is feasible that Donald

(48:48):
Trump committed serious crimes and therefore needs to be investigated
in a way that separates it out from the normal
chain of command at the Department of Justice. So it's
the make believe. Oh, Biden's team is wiping there. They're
washing their hands of this. Two special cut I gotta honestly,

(49:10):
one special counsel's crazy? Two why not ten? You know,
why not just just go for it, lives, Just have
five special counsels simultaneously. Let's let's have some people come
forward and make crazy allegations against Trump. You know, Let's
have someone come forward and say, oh, we need a
special counsel to see whether you know, Donald Trump failed
to pay a parking ticket back in nineteen ninety two.

(49:32):
Just just go with it. At what point is it
well beyond the pill. I would also note this is
I think people would have realized how psycho and when
I say people, I think that some of the persuadable
voters who unfortunately got the whole threats to a democracy
stuck in their minds, well, threats to our democracy Uh,

(49:55):
the real threat as somebody who has spent time in
countries where there have been at ratarian dictators past and present,
where countries have completely fallen apart, where there has been
civil war, where there have been insurgencies. Let me tell
you something. When the party in power starts doing show trials,
that's when you really got to worry. When the party

(50:17):
in power has somebody who makes fun of journalists and
they get very sad, that's actually not a threat to democracy.
So what Trump was doing, as much as it hurt
feelings at CNN, but when they use the apparatus of
the Justice Department itself as a political weapon, as they
are so clearly doing here, who would want to think

(50:38):
about think about all of the messages that this sends
to everybody you're gonna want to run for office in
this country. This is showing if you take on and
I want to be very clear here, I'm sorry, there's
so much if you take on the apparatus, if you

(50:58):
fight against them, the Democrat elites machinery, you're going to
get destroyed, is what they're telling you. Even if even
if you do nothing wrong, even if you're only a patriot,
they will find a way to hound you, prosecute, you, harass, you, bankrupt,
you put tremendous stress on your family, maybe cause you know,

(51:21):
a split, a divorce, whatever. They will just ruin you
because you're a threat to their power and nothing else matters.
That's the message that I think anybody else takes from
this Trump situation. I mean, how many special counsels, how
many impeachments, how many They just had the the Attorney
General for the State of New York bring a laughable,

(51:43):
a laughable civil fraud case against the Trump were even
people that hate Trump were like, this is a joke.
They just keep doing it. Notice that the the Democrats mania,
they're fixation on their their hatred from Trump translates into

(52:05):
sue him, sue him again, investigate him, more investigations, just
just keep going, just keep going. Two special two special
counsels simultaneously. Let me think about this. This is gonna
be their whole there. I told you this, I am
gonna say I told you they were gearing up that
the entire, the entire Democrat media machinery was gearing up

(52:28):
to replay what they did twenty sixteen to twenty twenty
against against Trump, and between now and twenty twenty four.
This is gonna this is the game plan. They're gonna
have two special counsels giving leaks, two special counsels. You
gonna have all these former prosecutors on TV who are
Democrats who want a job in the next Biden administration.

(52:52):
I'm just gonna say it. I think he's running again,
and they think he's gonna win. They're gonna go on
TV or well, at any moment now Donald Trump is
the walls are again. You know he's going to prison.
This is what they're going to do. They have been
waiting for this moment. They're going full throttle on this eighties.
It is astonishing that this is what they're doing, but

(53:13):
it's actually not surprising. I mean, on the one hand,
your jaw hits the table. On the other hand, you say,
this is who they are. They just did a They
just got a far better result than they deserved in
this election. As we all know, they had five million
fewer votes than Republicans. But they micro targeted and ballot

(53:34):
harvested and did all this stuff they had to do,
and whatever else they were doing too. We may still
find out some more of that. And now they bring
this because All that matters is that they're in power.
All that matters is that they get to call the shots.
And there is the very real possibility here that they

(53:54):
may bring a criminal indictment for they won't get anything
on the Jauary sixth, that they're not going to be
able to inde Trump for that, although although if they
could say that he was guilty of inciting insurrection in
some way, that would obviously become the favorite talking point

(54:15):
for the anti Trump Democrats going into twenty twenty four.
And they also, I think we'll bring this charge on
the removal of classified documents, or rather they could bring
that charge. But here's the problem of that. The Democrats,
I always tell you, hypocrisy doesn't bother them. They revel
in it. You have to know this about Democrats. They

(54:36):
don't sit there and say, I feel so badly that
I'm such a hypocrite. They say, see, of course I'm
a hypocrite. What are you gonna do about it? See
the apparatus is on my side. I can get away
with it. That's how they view hypocrisy. They don't because
they don't have principles. They don't care. Oh, you have

(54:57):
to play by that rule. And I don't play by
that role exactly. They think they're better than you. That's
the point. But Hillary Clinton, with one hundred cases of
mishandling of classified willfully intentionally as secretary of State, not
as a president and now former president. She has no
declassification authority at all as secretary of State, and she

(55:20):
put stuff on what do you think is more dangerous
stuff on a computer server, an unclassified, unsecured server attached
to the Internet, or a box of dusty documents in
a locked basement in mar Lago which is crawling with
cameras and secret service. I'm just one which one of
those you think is a little bit more risky. What

(55:41):
did James Comey say about Hillary Clinton and her emails?
No prosecutor would bring charges, which was a lie. But
they established that precedent. And I just want you to
remember this. They will break it now if they choose
to do so, and won't care about it one bit
because it's not about what's right, what's legal, what's true.

(56:03):
It's about our side wins at any cost. That's how
they think about it. While we're sitting here, we're trying
to figure out, Oh, you know, does everyone have to
be on board for every aspect of every part of
the Republican agenda. And look at Mitch McConnell. We're having
all these talks. The Democrats are just trying to figure
out how they can get closer to the creation of
a de facto one party state, or they're in charge

(56:23):
all the time. Our Merit Garland's gonna be tak taking
the sand I was gonna say, taking the podium. In
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