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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
This debt ceiling battle is going to count four months
of account for months, I would say, of news media
stories before ultimately it gets resolved spoiler alert without the
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United States defaulting and collapsing as a business. Just just
gonna let you know there is going to be a
resolution at some point. Now, what's become increasingly clear is
there are actually lots of Democrats, particularly in the Senate,
that seem willing to negotiate on this debt ceiling related issue.
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And if that is true, then there is a pretty
good amount of leverage that Republicans have here if Republicans
remained steadfast. But Buck, the story here on the debt
ceiling is to me really missing the bigger story, which
is You've talked about this yesterday, and I was reading
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the Wall Street Journal this morning. They have a graphic.
I'm going to tweet it out for people to look at.
We had a five trillion dollar national debt at the
beginning of two thousand, right, which means for our nation's
entire history from seventeen eighty three when we became an
independent country. Until twenty twenty, we had built up a
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five trillion dollar national debt. Since two thousand, we have
taken a five trillion national debt and it is now
over thirty one trillion. So in the space of twenty years, roughly,
we have added over twenty five trillion dollars two hour
national debt. And that's an average, rough math of over
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a trillion dollars a year that we are adding to
the national debt. And I think we're on pace so
far this year to add around a trillion and a
half dollars to the national debt. And it got me
thinking several things. One, you may know the answer of this,
what comes after trillion? You know, you go million, billion,
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trillion without looking it up. No, I have to look
it up. I don't know. No, No, I'm gonna guess.
Is it gazillion? Is that a real thing? It's a quadrillion,
So it's trillion is like try so quadrillion like four?
So you you have to look it up. I've been
almost no one out there knows because we keep And
the reason why I bring this up is I don't
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think it's crazy to believe that in the lifetime of
many of you out there listening, and maybe in the
next generation when you start to factor in the rate
of interest payments and how much that's going to balloon
and expand our national debt. We're rapidly advancing towards a
hundred trillion dollar national debt. Buck Well, I think it's
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I think it's worth asking, if there's no downside to
the dead, why care at all? Right? Because what's interesting
is when you bring this up, people say, oh, Republicans
complain about the dead, it's not a big deal. You know,
you'll hear this, and whether it's Paul Kraigman at the
New York Times or any other leftist economists out there
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who will offer up their credentials as a means of
covering up for the very basic and straightforward reality of
this is about math. It's about numbers, and it's a
really big number that does have implications for everybody and
for the economy. The same reason why you can say
to people, well, if you don't think that, you know,
money printing is bad, why not just give every American.
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I know they just said that they should give every
African American five million dollars in reparations, you know in California,
you know that would be on a smaller scale. But
you could give every American just a million dollars or
five million dollars. What's the downside? We know that you
would effectively destroy the entire value of the currency itself.
So we know that can happen and I wont or
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at what point we're at that stage with the debt
where you talk about what could go wrong here? What
are the bad things from I do this with immigration
with people, illegal immigration with people all the time, because
also it's not a big deal or like you know
these are you know, it's a nation of immigrants and
we need the dreamers. And I say, okay, is there
any downside? Let's talk about the downside first? Is there
any downside? And once they if there's a downside, you say, well,
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obviously the downside is exacerbated by an increase in the numbers. Right,
So if you can establish that something bad happens in
some level, the more of that you have, the more
of the bad side you're going to have. If you
can establish with the debt that you're going to have
increasing payments on the money you've already paid, and that
that brings the number up even more. Yes, And that
this is going to crowd out private investment, private spending
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in the economy. This is going to be a burden,
a debt burden that future generations are going to have
to service for things that they get no benefit from,
and the political instability that comes from that. We can
agree on all of those things. Forty trillion fifty trillion
sounds like a lot of money to me, Clay, Yes,
and you mentioned Paul Krugman. I'm glad you did. His
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New York Times editorial this morning refers to Republicans who
are opposed to raising the debt ceiling as economic terrorists.
Oh my head. Yes, literally in the print newspaper headline.
I don't know if they've changed it digitally online. I
meant to take a picture of it and tweet it out.
But yes, my newspaper this morning. I'm sitting there reading,
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as I do every morning, the New York Times and
then the Wall Street Journal or vice versa, you know,
old school, old man print school copy, and I just
to know what everybody's saying. And Paul Krugman says that
you can't negotiate that these are economic terrorists. In the
Republican Party who are attempting to question the amount of
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money that's being spent. And so I think what we're
gonna get, Buck, I think we are moving towards an era.
This is my year. Clinton and Newt Gingrich hammered out
a budget that actually ended Remember that we had a surplus,
like we were actually bringing in more money than we
were spending, and our national debt actually started to go down.
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And I think that was like ninety seven, ninety eight,
ninety nine. More of my argument, Buck that the late
nineties were the greatest moments in American history, and then
in the two thousands nine eleven happens budgets get blown up,
and since then we've basically allowed ourselves to believe one
crisis after another justifies as much spending as as as
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we feel like we want to toss out there, right,
And Joe Biden was willing to spend five trillion more
dollars even though it took us a double digit inflation.
And so I wonder if there's going to be a
sort of acknowledgement of, hey, this is a big issue
and we have to resolve it. And the debt ceiling
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is really just a prelude to a more substantive conversation
about a much bigger issue. Interesting in this exchange in
the New York Times, I'm seeing they had an opinion
an opinion section piece where they had I think it
was a podcast. They did a transcript of it and
a naked case that for this is from this transcript
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for Republicans, the showdown in twenty eleven, they're firing previous
debt ceiling fights was the signal achievement of the Tea
Party staring down President Barack Obama and forcing the cuts
associated with the Budget Control Act. It validated one of
the animating forces of the right over the past decade
that the party's failures are a result of weak, feckless
leadership and if they fight, they win. For Democrats, this
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is this guy Donovan saying this. For Democrats, including Joe Biden,
who as Vice President had a front row seat to
that deal, it was evidence of why you should never
negotiate under these circumstances, because it enables and encourages more
hostage taking. So what I think is interesting about about
how they frame this is that Clay Okay, Republicans the
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Budget Control Act for people who actually remember the Budget
Control Act, and I'm going to say this is part
of why I think the Tea Party started to lose
a little bit of steam. The Budget Control Act was
a reduction in the amount of increase in federal spending. Yeah,
it wasn't actually going net decrease in all federal spending.
The Budget Control Act was we were going to increase
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it by you know whatever. It was a few percentage points, which,
in the context of a multi trillion dollar federal budget
is a massive amount of money. We're gonna drop that
down a little bit. So instead of increasing the budget,
you know, three percent, we're going to increase increase at
two point five percent or two percent. I forget what
the numbers were, but that's what that huge fight was
over a decrease in the increase. Yes, well, and that's
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well said. And remember for you know, just back of
the envelope math here. And I'm far from an economist,
but the amount we have to spend on social security
and medicare continues to grow, and it's growing now much
faster because the cost of living increases have to take
into account the massive rate of inflation. So we're getting
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a big hit there to our budget simultaneously, we are
hitting monster numbers as it pertains to the five percent
soon to be five percent, I believe overall interest rate,
you know, and Buck. This is one of the things
that I think Trump floated that was brilliant, that got
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almost no attention. Trump said, Hey, why wouldn't we go
ahead and refy our And again I don't know all
of the economic you know, involvement here, but he said,
why wouldn't we lock in the rate of our national
debt the money that we have borrowed at like zero
or one percent interest when that was the rate, instead
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of allowing it to float almost like you know, if
you're a if you're taking out a mortgage and you've
got a three percent mortgage. One reason the housing market
has frozen is a lot of people have a three
percent mortgage and they're like, why in the world would
I move and take a seven percent mortgage. It's going
to cost me way more money, even if I like
a new house better. Why wouldn't we have locked in
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if it's possible? And Trump floated the idea, and I
thought it was brilliant. Our national interest rate, like you
would lock in a mortgage when the rates were really low.
I know this will sound sweeping because it is, and
it's not true in all cases, but I think it
is fair to say that our political leadership class, whether
it's in the White House or in Congress, is generally
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mathematically and financially illiterate. Well, yes, there's that too. Not
all of them, obviously, but a lot of them. And
actually one of the things that Trump brought to the
table was an understanding of certainly business on the financial
side of things. And this is why to this day
I said ago, no one ever gives Trump credit for
the fact that the Biden trade policy visa each China
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is the Trump trade policy. I remember they were saying
he's gonna start a trade war, he's gonna destroy the economy,
people like Krugman, by the way, saying that Trump was
right on that stuff. Yeah, and it is funny. You're right,
Biden hasn't even touched it. And you know what the
reality is, if Biden had come in and just continue
to run all Trump policies in every facet, the country
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a handful of documents who are failed for files in
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the wrong place. We immediately turned them over to the
archives in the Justice Department. We're fully cooperating, looking forward
to getting this resolved quickly. You're gonna find there's nothing there.
I have no regrets that following what they were lawyers
have told me they want me to do exactly what
we're doing. There's no there there. There's no there there
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except the documents were there and there and there classified
documents that Joe Biden left in various places. I do
think it's hard for us not to take a moment
here to remember that it was just a few months
ago that we were told what was it in August
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of last year, that what Donald Trump had done keeping
documents that he says he declassified when he was president,
which he has the full authority as president to do
in a locked storage area of Mara Lago, that apparently
included something written on a napkin. I don't know. I
just I don't buy that the nuclear codes were written
on a napkin. I'm just gonna say it I don't
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think that our most sensitive assets were all written on
the back of a cocktail napkin. I'm gonna go out
on a limb. But they made a huge deal of it.
They have a special counsel, a component of a special
counsel investigation over this issue, and now Joe Biden trying
to tell everybody it's it's no big deal. Now. My
contention with all of this is it I still think
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this is a a subject to change. Events can overtake analysis
on this. I still believe that Joe Biden is going
to run. I still believe that Joe Biden is going
to be able to get past this classified documents story.
I don't think this is the thing that brings Joe
Biden down. That's my belief. I could be wrong, but
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I believe that they're going to run this special counsel
investigation and the system knows what to do here, just
like the system at some level with Hillary did what
it had to do to protect her when she was running.
But then there's this other stuff that keeps percolating. Clay,
a little more comes out, a little more comes out,
just from a daily mail. It's an exclusive all in
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the family. Joe Biden is named in a twenty seventeen
email discussing multimillion dollar gas deal with China, with the
Louisiana lawyer writing to brother Jim that he arranged a
call with the former Vice president and his son Hunter
to discuss the purchase. Now, I understand that it's easy
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to get kind of lost into some of these details.
We've heard a lot of stuff about the Biden crime
family beforem what it's up to. But I think we're
starting to get closer and closer to it becomes inevitable
for people to realize that Joe Biden was not just
the name they were selling, That Joe Biden was himself
part of the access pedaling scheme, knew about it, lied
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about knowing about it, and this is corrupt. I mean,
at a minimum, there should be a political price that
you would think has to be paid as a result
of this. I think Joe Biden thought his political career
was over. That's the the sort of lynchpin of why
all of this would have occurred with Hunter and decided
I've had my tenure in the United States government. Now
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it's time to make money. And I think he flipped
aggressively to let's make money and have some legacy for
the Biden family to show for the forty plus years
that we spent in office. And I don't think he
ever contemplated that he was going to be running for
president necessarily. I just don't think he thought there was
a lane for him to be elected president in twenty
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seventeen and twenty eighteen when all of these activities and
actions were ongoing. And Buck, I'll just point out there
are the photos and videos of Hunter Biden driving Joe
Biden's corvette. The corvette that we know because Joe Biden
said it himself was in the garage alongside of the
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classified documents that were in his home that should be
out there. Remember you mentioned this a little bit ago
after the Marlago raid. I think we talked about this.
We said, oh, you know what there's going to be.
They're going to argue that these are incredibly dangerous documents.
They came out and said, you know, nuclear codes like
all this. What were the documents that everybody had access
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to in Joe Biden's garage and how many other places
were these documents stored and why would he have them? Right?
My argument here has been somebody knew that Biden had
something he wasn't supposed to have, and that's why they
had a thousand dollars an hour attorneys going through these documents. Because,
remember Buck, the first argument they put out was, well,
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we just discovered these in the process of closing down
that office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, DC.
But then the details didn't really make sense. How did
you discover them? Well, a warrior found an envelope, and
then he opened that envelope and he pulled the papers out,
and he saw that they hadn't classified markings on them.
Why did you have a lawyer who was making a
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thousand dollars an hour going through your documents? That's moving's
not fun. Moving with movers who cost a thousand dollars
an hour, it would really be not fun. I got
news for you. I got news for you again. I'm
an expert move. I'm an expert in making scrambled eggs
and moving apartments. Uh, these are things I've done far
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too many times. The twenty percent suggested tip in cash
at the end of the move is not really suggested.
Like all of a sudden, your trade you know, your
your prized vase is gonna have a crack at it.
You gotta pay the guys. I look they where I
will say. One of the jobs that I believe I'm
amazed at how hard people work is movers. Moving is
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one of those jobs where I'm just like, so, I'm
happy to pay there there, But I just think it's
funny because there's always and it's always in cash, and
it's twenty percent. It's at the end they've earned every penny.
But there's no like, yeah, I think we're gonna do
like a ten percent. No no no, no, no, it's twenty percent.
So that hasn't exploit We have a thousand dollars attorney
who was opening envelopes and finding classified documents. So what's
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he looking for? What are these documents consist of? And
how many people had access to them? Those are really
pretty integral questions. You know. There's there's stonewalling that the
White House is engaging in, and I think, unfortunately they're
going to be able to, as they always are, get
away with it to a large extent. I don't think
we should overpromise what's likely to come out of all
this because the media apparatus is still for now, they're
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still behind Biden. I think there's been a little bit
of a jump a little too soon on our side too. Oh,
this is this is an internal coude to push Biden out.
I know that was a first impulse a lot of
people had. I don't think this is that. I think
this is Joe Biden now. And by the way, I've
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changed my thinking on this the more I've gone through it.
So I don't pretend that this is an obvious answer
or that I'm definitely right. But I just think Joe
Biden is a buffoon. Yes, and now you are trying
to play I think this is clean up on Aisle Biden,
and it's just not an easy thing to clean up
because of the Mara Lago doc you know, Embrolio specifically,
and so they're trying to figure this out. Now. Could
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this have the effect down the line of helping to
pressure Biden to not wrong again? Yeah, sure maybe, but
I don't think, you know, especially when people said, oh,
you know, maybe they put the documents there. Now they
have all I think they have all the leverage they
need with Hunter, and that's a much more clear path
to the apparatus. Pushing Joe aside. This document thing he's
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gonna be able to ride this one out just like Hillary,
look just like Trump. I mean, there's a controversy of
the documents. You can say Trump's not in the wrong
or only a little bit in the wrong, but there
were classified documents there that they had to turn over.
So I just don't see. I don't think this is
the end. That's my site. I particularly I agree with you,
and I particularly think that Buck because the person who
they would have in the wings waiting to take over
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is worse than Joe Biden. So I think Democrats are
trying to forestall the battle that eventually they're going to
have to have to keep Kamala from being the nominee
because she's such a disastrous candidate. In fact, when we
come back in the next segment, I have a theory
that Kamala Harris's speechwriters all hate her and regularly put
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things in the speech for her to read that they
know is going to look and sound awful. And if
the vice president for Joe Biden, let's presume Barack Obama
was Joe Biden's vice president right now, I think one
hundred percent there would be a mechanism underway to try
to knock Biden out, so Joe Biden didn't run and
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Barack Obama could run if there was an extremely able
vice president. I would buy into that argument. The problem
is if you knock Biden out, the later that it
takes to knock Biden out Buck, the more guaranteed it
is that it's Kamala who would basically just take the baton, right,
because if Biden suddenly came out in July or August
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and said, hey, guys, I'm not running for reelection next year,
it would be such a rapid turnaround. Nobody would have
the infrastructure or the campaigns up to be able to run.
So Kamala would get that baton. If there were somebody
really capable behind him, I might buy into that. I
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of playing buckets going right now, everybody, and we had
started off today talking about how they're telling us they
couldn't find the leaker of the dab's decision from the
Supreme Court. Big implications from that we all recall or
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a crazy person showed up outside of Kavanaugh's house saying
he wanted to assassinate a Supreme Court justice. There was
pressure brought to bear because of this leak, and there
were risks and there were dangers out there as a result.
No leaker found what happened here? Do we trust that
they turned over every stone? Shannon Bream is with us.
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She is Fox News is chief Supreme Court Legal analyst. Shannon.
Great to have you on. It is my pleasure, buck.
How are you. I'm good, It's been a while since
we talked to you. We always always are very happy
when you get a moment to join us here, Shannon,
I just wanted really your We can get into some
of the details and some of what you think the
implications of this will be down the line. But first,
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what was your thirty thousand foot view when the announcement
came out. Nothing. They didn't find out who did this. Yeah,
and they say that they'll keep following leads and looking
at things that they have, but it sounded to me
like they got nothing because the warning of the statement
from the chord said, after everything we've done, forensic it, audit,
cell phones, texts, sworn off a David's interviews, we could
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not find anyone by a preponderance of the evidence. Would
you know that's such a low standard. It's basically that
something is more. Thanks for coming on. First of all,
I'm gonna give you some props. This is a big deal.
You are killing it on Fox News Sunday as the host.
If people haven't checked it out, they should thank you.
And you are going to be doing your show from
the end zone of the Super Bowl. Now. I know
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your husband, he's fantastic. Is that maybe the thing he's
most impressed that you have ever pulled off in your
career to get to do a show from the Super
Bowl End Zone on the Sunday of Super Bowl Sunday.
Probably so, although he was much less impressed with my
football skills, he actually bought me a nurse football and
is making me throw it because there's talk that I
may have to do some of these NFL's roles or
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something more there. You don't want to pull a Fauci
on the baseball, Tosh Shannon. You got to get the
arm loose and get a little bit of practice out there.
I've not mastered the spiral, that's for sure. So Buck
and Eye were talking, So congratulations on all that. Buck
and Eye were talking in the first hour and he
was reading through and I'm sure you did as well.
Even if they had found the person, the criminal behavior
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is a bit of a stretch in terms of what
they could be charged with. Do you think there might
be any motivation in the wake of this leak to
potentially have a statute drafted that would make it criminal
to engage in behavior like this as a further sign
not just to break the Supreme Court mores and traditions,
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but also in the similar way that if you worked
at the CIA or the FBI and you were caught
leaking internally that that might make it clear that it's
a criminal offense. Does that make sense? Yeah, I totally
get it. And that's a great question because there are
laws out there that have to do with handling classified information.
A Supreme Court document, a draft of an opinion is
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not considered classified. There are codes, ethics codes, those kinds
of things, but not necessarily a criminal penalty for disclosing
something that's secret information at the Supreme Court. That's another
reason that people have questions. Listen to, the Chief Justice
kept it in house. They wanted the Marshal inside the
Supreme Court to handle this. But there's also this question
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of Okay, if you brought in the FBI or DJ
which I can understand the reasons the may not want
to do that, But then if somebody lies to a
federal agent or investigator, that's a whole different issue versus Listen,
you can still get in trouble for signing a sworn statement,
which they say everybody they interview did, and they all
did that under penalty of perjury and denied that they
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leaked the document. But you know, when you bring in
a federal agent, I think that turns up the temperature
and for whatever reason, the chief said, we're not going
to do that. So Shannon, it sounds like they could
have gone at a little more all out here than
they did at a minimum, right, I mean, whether they
were even willing to chase it in every way they
could with what they deployed here, they decided not to
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go with the full heat that they could. Well, what's
tricky is you have classes of clerks. These you guys know,
they serve a year there and they generally cycle in
and out in July. So anybody who left in July
of twenty twenty two was no longer under the reach
of this investigation because it was being done internally of
Supreme Courts employees. And once they were gone, who knows
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if it involved a clerk or not, but if it did,
you've now lost the ability to pursue that any further.
So that may be a gaping hole for a lot
of people that you would think, Okay, they are a
logical place to look. They potentially have different motivations, they
may be completely in the clear, but once they left
in July, this internal investigation had no way to reach them. Shannon,
I'm curious how you would assess this Buck and I
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were also talking about, Hey, if you're a journalist and
a draft opinion gets dropped into your lap, one of
the first things I would think is, okay, am I
getting set up? Because there are lots of different opinions
that could or could not be valid. It's also possible,
you will know, every major law firm in the country
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could have somebody draft one, right. I mean, it's not
an exact science of what these things will look like.
So if I'm Politico, it's not only that I've got
the draft, it's that whoever is giving me the draft
has to be so supremely reliable that I'm willing to
go out there on a limb, because you're probably not
going to get any confirmation, right, Like, It's not like
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you can call them up and be like, hey, Supreme Court,
we got its draft opinion. The Supreme Court's not gonna say, yeah,
it's accurate or inaccurate. Doesn't that lead you to believe
that whatever route by which this opinion got to them,
Politico felt like, Okay, this is a slam dunk. This
is one hundred percent reel. Yeah, and it makes it
feel like it lends credence to the theory that it
(30:07):
was an inside job. Also because the report we got
from the Supreme Court yesterday said we went through all
of our it, we used all the forensics we've had,
and we found it highly unlikely that someone breached our
system from outside or that this was a hack, which
is essentially them saying, too again, it sounds like it's
an inside job. And you're right. If I'm a reporter
and somebody brings it to me, you're every alarm and
(30:31):
bell and whistle is going to go off in your
head unless you are convinced that person had direct access
to it. And we know from this report there were
eighty two different people who did Yeah you don't. You
don't want to get Dan Rather? National Guard documented on
this one, So yeah, right, yeah they did. And I
like the way you described that is if it's its
own like dictionary entry, I think it kind of is
(30:52):
at this point, right, you got you got Dan Rather,
you got Dan Rathered, you ran with the fake docs,
and now you've got to pay the price. Shannon. In
the long term, we're speaking of Shannon Bream, Fox News
is chief Judicial Chief Supreme Court Analysts Shannon the the
court going forward, do you think that people were we
(31:14):
all just kind of aware that it was very politicized
before this, and so this doesn't do much. Or do
you think this has really shifted in shape perception about
a willingness to use the court and really abuse the
court as a weapon of politics. Yeah, and listen, the court,
it goes through waves of people who don't like it.
Whether your party appointees are short of in the majority
or they're in the minority. People, you know, we'll have
(31:36):
all kinds of very distinct criticisms of the court right now.
Democrats don't like it. They are in the minority when
it comes to their party's nominees, and so they talk
constantly about packing the court, about doing things to the
court so that it won't be political. Whereas you have
members of the court, including Justice Stephen Bryer, who was
on the left of the court, say when you start
(31:56):
to do stuff like that, it does politicize the court
and it does make the or it looked political. So listen,
there are people who are they've been split over robe
weight for fifty years, and so no matter what the
court did, the other side was going to view it
as political. You know, the substance of the decision, aside
from the fact that it was leaked. But that's the
absolute last thing. The justices over their one and they're
(32:17):
very sensitive to that. You know, any portrayal of them
is being partisan. Shannon, We're sitting at fifty one forty
nine for theoretically the next two years, assuming people stay healthy.
In all those things, there seems to be a certain
amount of pressure that is get ratcheted getting ratcheted up
on some of the older justices on the left wing,
even though they aren't particularly that old. With the idea
(32:39):
being you look at that map, twenty twenty four Senate
majority seems like it's really going to be in peril.
Maybe the Democrats dodged one here. Do you get the
sense that Joe Biden might have the chance to appoint
another justice or do you think everybody's basically going to
stay locked in, even though it may be a while
until we have at Democrats Senate and a Democrat president
(33:01):
both in office. Yeah, I think all the appointees, all
the current justices on the Court have very much invested
in staying put as long as they possibly can, for
various reasons that make sense based on the party that
put them there. The justices on the left side. I mean,
they're relatively young in terms of Supreme Court justices, so
absent something that forced them to step down, I don't
(33:21):
see them going anywhere. You remember the enormous pressure that
was on Justice Ginsburg to step down before President Trump's election.
She was into her eighties and saying, you know, get lost,
I'm not going anywhere. So you know, there's always speculation
too about the Republican appointees. They are by and large
older than the other side of the bench, but they're
going to do everything they can to hang on through
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appreciate you joining us, and you should check out Shannon
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whole range of things with Aaron McIntyre from The Blaze.
Really smart guy. If you want a bunch of wonky
political science book recommendations, we just good. I had to
(35:55):
like slow him down. He was just rattling them off,
ratting him off. He's at the Blaze where I hard
in my media career. So I'm very fond of the
Blaze and very thankful to Glenn Beck always. But also
talk to Ann Coulter, which I know for some of you,
super exciting conversation you want to hear some others of you,
I don't know, maybe you want to check it out.
Maybe you might disagree with some of what miss Culter
(36:17):
puts out there with the Culter flamethrower, but she doesn't
mess around. And also our friend Carolyn Levitt who ran
that that valiant campaign in New Hampshire. But she's an
up and coming well media personality and gen Z gen
Z not even Valadio gen Z right winger. And she
really tries to sell me on New Hampshire as an
(36:39):
amazing state. How much time have I've spent? I think
I've been in New Hampshire twice. I don't know it.
I don't know it well enough to have a real
informed opinion, is what I would say about it. So
she tries to sell me, have you spent much time
up in New Hampshire. Yeah, I'm trying to think battles
of Lexington and Concord. We are in New Hampshire, right,
(36:59):
I think I'm correcting that the start of the revolutionary Massachusetts.
Oh man, oh man, that's a big whiff by me.
That in fact, like that might be my biggest historical
whiff of all time, because clearly you drive from Boston
out there. But the point on this is I haven't
spent very much time in the in the northeast, uh
(37:20):
in like I would say the New England states. So
I'm trying to think I've flown into Manchester a few times.
But I don't think I've ever really spent any time
going around in New Hampshire. Now. I've been to Maine,
I've been to Massachusetts, but not a lot of time
in the New England states. And I am just in
in disbelief that I got Lexington and Concord wrong and
(37:41):
thought that they were in New Hampshire instead of it right.
You're a civil war guy, that's revolutionary war. I know
that that is. That's a whiff. So uh yes, And
I'm by the way interviewing Alexey Lawless today. You'll be
able to hear a conversation with Alexei Lawless, obviously big
time US soccer fan. Um I might hit him with
(38:01):
the because you see Alexey Lawless and your your mind
goes back to the nineties Hackey Sack and Dave Matthews band,
I think right away. And also when Goates had a
real moment in the nineties. Some of the people listening
is I don't mean like a well kept little I
mean like, uh, you know, King tut kind of got yeah,
(38:22):
like the you know, the yep, the got was very
powerful there. I was gonna say I was gonna hit
Alexi Lawless with this Babylon b UH headline that I
saw yesterday. We were talking about the NHL and the
player who didn't want to wear the Gay Pride UH
jersey and the Babylon b headline. I'm reading it. NHL
player says, if he wanted to support the gays, he'd
(38:45):
be playing soccer. That is what that is the Babylon
be headline. That is really funny. And you, one of
you are sports fan, read that you laughed. Every single
sports fan who reads that will laugh. I believe a
lot of them are woke and will claim they did
not laugh. But anyway, I'll ask him about that. So
I teased Buck this audio that I heard yesterday. So
(39:10):
this this individual has been charged and need to remember
his name. By the way, Ali says, not only did
I get Lexington and Concord wrong, Buck, she grew up
in Lexington, mass and Concord, so I actually whipped on
her hometown. I have toured but the Lexington and Concord
(39:30):
by the way, so it was a whiff not only
by me historically, but also of course Ali actually is
from the place that I whipped on and got in
the wrong state. But do we tell everybody that the
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miss a momentum. So the killing that happened also in Massachusetts, uh,
(40:16):
this alleged killing, because we still don't have a body.
They have arrested this woman's husband for the charges and
A Walsh, right, what the husband's name do you remember?
Um something Walsh? I don't remember his first Brian Walsh,
Brian Walsh whatever. You're talking about somebody who's accused of
a grizzly murder. You know, you always want to get
the name. Yeah, exactly right. So he has been arrested,
(40:39):
accused of murder. This is what it sounded like as
the juror as the judge read the evidence against him.
In particular, there have been allegations that he was using
Google to look up things that were very incriminating. But
when you hear them read back to back to back
in the timeline. If you have heard this, your jaws
(41:01):
about to drop. This was in Massachusetts as part of
the hearing in front of the judge. This is the
evidence arrayed against this individual, Brian Walsh. At four fifty
five am on Jerry First, he searched how long before
a body starts to snow? At four fifty eight am.
How to stop a body from decomposing? At five forty
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four am. Dismemberment in the best ways to dispose of
a body at eleven forty four piper pin blood from
wooden floor at eleven fifty six on the first moment
on to detect flood at one eight. What happens? I mean,
(42:11):
oh my god, Now those are Google searches. It basically
as and and some of you. If you couldn't hear
every word, you can go watch. I shared this video
on my twitter feed. You can scroll down and you
can go find it of him standing there as all
these Google searches that they had uncovered or read out
that he had allegedly done in the wake of his
(42:34):
wife's departure. We don't know what happened to her, right,
So if you're the defense attorney and you hear all
that evidence that we just played of all the things
that he was searching for. Also he went and bought
four hundred and fifty dollars in cleaning supplies from home
depot and was caught lying about that. I don't know.
(42:55):
This is the only defense that I can think of, Buck,
is that this is like Gone Girl. Did you see
the movie Gone Girl? Yeah? But unless he has you know,
seven chapters written over the last six months, So you're
talking about the murder the murder novel defense, right, Well, no, no,
he could do the murder novel defense. The one that
I think the only one that actually applies here is
(43:16):
that his wife set him up and yet she's spoiler
alert spoiler alert if you haven't seen the movie Gone Girl.
The idea is the husband killed her and she actually
fled and set him up. This guy's going to prison
for a very long time as as he well should.
That's obviously these defenses, they're very highly theoretical and not
(43:37):
going to sway a jury given. This is the closest
thing I have ever seen in any criminal case, and
I think anyone has ever seen in a criminal case
to effectively a um. It's almost like a confession by
by Google search. Yes, that's a confession by Google search,
meaning you're like, I'm going to do this, and then
I'm going to do this, and then I'm going to this.
(43:58):
He goes through these things. There's no way to explain
any of that in the real world. That doesn't make
it seem obvious that this is a guy who was
planning the murder of his wife. I mean, the whole
thing is I think they have three kids. Well, you know,
it's sounds like he was trying maybe to get life
insurance money. Is if you're wondering what was going on there,
but to try to plan uh, first degree murder through
(44:23):
your you know, through Google searches. It just shows, I
mean a lot of people just have no understanding of
the Internet searchability. You know the fact that every that
everything is effectively logged always in forever, um and that
these are things Now in this case, obviously it's good
because there's additional evidence here, but even in the um,
you know, it's good that that this guy was so
(44:45):
sloppy because I think he's going to end up getting
very easily convicted. UM. But even in the case in Idaho,
there's somebody who was studying criminology, which is which was
another aspect of this as we talked about and um
studying criminology and didn't really understand cell phone tower geolocation
(45:05):
and how all of that works, but also how it
would look to law enforcement, how they can piece this together.
Things like turning the phone off just during the murder period,
is itself an indicator that something was going on, right
that doesn't cover you if you never turn your phone
off for six months previously at that time. So there
are some of those things that come together. And and
(45:26):
you know, Clay, we talked about the how there looks
there are reports, these are not confirmed by law enforcement.
There are reports in the media that there were some
effort by the alleged quadruple murderer in Moscow, Idaho, to
reach out to one of those one of those young women.
Just another indicator of social people are. Social media puts
(45:48):
a lot out there and can create a lot of
problems for folks even if they don't Even if they
don't do anything wrong, just the information that they put
out there can be can be used against them. One
of my buddies and I used to think he was crazy.
One of my buddies was always super He was super
careful that he never posted anything on social media when
(46:10):
he was still at the venue. And I always thought
that was kind of crazy. And then later I'm like,
you know, I kind of see that argument. There's a guy.
But if you're a girl and you're listening to us
right now. Given how easy it is for people to
keep tabs on social media accounts, posting like a photo
from a bar that you might be at or somewhere
(46:32):
that you're out with friends while you're still there, probably
not a good idea, right like, wait till you get
back home, post them the next morning, whatever it might be.
Instead of giving people a target theoretically of where you are.
I'm sure you know you probably are covering this on
Outkake because of the sports component of the story. But
this gymnast and TikTok sensation Olivia Done, Yeah, she has
(46:56):
had to get police involved because of social media. You know,
because of social media fans and people increasingly, everyone's sharing.
They're sharing where they are, they're sharing who they're with,
they're sharing where they're going. You know, when you become
a figure of public influence like this, even if you're
a TikTok influencer or Instagram star or whatever it may be,
(47:18):
there are a lot of crazy people out there, and
I think, you know, I think people don't learn the
security protocols that would be necessary and helpful for them
to stay safe if they're going to have millions of
people looking at all their photos and their day to
day lives. Olivia Done, for those of you who don't know,
is a LSU women's gymnastics star. I mean, LSU has
a great gymnastics program. She is probably the highest earning
(47:42):
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brought with it an unbelievable crush of attention. And frankly,
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of freedom and truth Play Travis and Buck Sexton
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
This debt ceiling battle is going to count four months
of account for months, I would say, of news media
stories before ultimately it gets resolved spoiler alert without the
(00:25):
United States defaulting and collapsing as a business. Just just
gonna let you know there is going to be a
resolution at some point. Now, what's become increasingly clear is
there are actually lots of Democrats, particularly in the Senate,
that seem willing to negotiate on this debt ceiling related issue.
(00:49):
And if that is true, then there is a pretty
good amount of leverage that Republicans have here if Republicans
remained steadfast. But Buck, the story here on the debt
ceiling is to me really missing the bigger story, which
is You've talked about this yesterday, and I was reading
(01:10):
the Wall Street Journal this morning. They have a graphic.
I'm going to tweet it out for people to look at.
We had a five trillion dollar national debt at the
beginning of two thousand, right, which means for our nation's
entire history from seventeen eighty three when we became an
independent country. Until twenty twenty, we had built up a
(01:32):
five trillion dollar national debt. Since two thousand, we have
taken a five trillion national debt and it is now
over thirty one trillion. So in the space of twenty years, roughly,
we have added over twenty five trillion dollars two hour
national debt. And that's an average, rough math of over
(01:55):
a trillion dollars a year that we are adding to
the national debt. And I think we're on pace so
far this year to add around a trillion and a
half dollars to the national debt. And it got me
thinking several things. One, you may know the answer of this,
what comes after trillion? You know, you go million, billion,
(02:16):
trillion without looking it up. No, I have to look
it up. I don't know. No, No, I'm gonna guess.
Is it gazillion? Is that a real thing? It's a quadrillion,
So it's trillion is like try so quadrillion like four?
So you you have to look it up. I've been
almost no one out there knows because we keep And
the reason why I bring this up is I don't
(02:37):
think it's crazy to believe that in the lifetime of
many of you out there listening, and maybe in the
next generation when you start to factor in the rate
of interest payments and how much that's going to balloon
and expand our national debt. We're rapidly advancing towards a
hundred trillion dollar national debt. Buck Well, I think it's
(02:57):
I think it's worth asking, if there's no downside to
the dead, why care at all? Right? Because what's interesting
is when you bring this up, people say, oh, Republicans
complain about the dead, it's not a big deal. You know,
you'll hear this, and whether it's Paul Kraigman at the
New York Times or any other leftist economists out there
(03:18):
who will offer up their credentials as a means of
covering up for the very basic and straightforward reality of
this is about math. It's about numbers, and it's a
really big number that does have implications for everybody and
for the economy. The same reason why you can say
to people, well, if you don't think that, you know,
money printing is bad, why not just give every American.
(03:40):
I know they just said that they should give every
African American five million dollars in reparations, you know in California,
you know that would be on a smaller scale. But
you could give every American just a million dollars or
five million dollars. What's the downside? We know that you
would effectively destroy the entire value of the currency itself.
So we know that can happen and I wont or
(04:00):
at what point we're at that stage with the debt
where you talk about what could go wrong here? What
are the bad things from I do this with immigration
with people, illegal immigration with people all the time, because
also it's not a big deal or like you know
these are you know, it's a nation of immigrants and
we need the dreamers. And I say, okay, is there
any downside? Let's talk about the downside first? Is there
any downside? And once they if there's a downside, you say, well,
(04:22):
obviously the downside is exacerbated by an increase in the numbers. Right,
So if you can establish that something bad happens in
some level, the more of that you have, the more
of the bad side you're going to have. If you
can establish with the debt that you're going to have
increasing payments on the money you've already paid, and that
that brings the number up even more. Yes, And that
this is going to crowd out private investment, private spending
(04:45):
in the economy. This is going to be a burden,
a debt burden that future generations are going to have
to service for things that they get no benefit from,
and the political instability that comes from that. We can
agree on all of those things. Forty trillion fifty trillion
sounds like a lot of money to me, Clay, Yes,
and you mentioned Paul Krugman. I'm glad you did. His
(05:06):
New York Times editorial this morning refers to Republicans who
are opposed to raising the debt ceiling as economic terrorists.
Oh my head. Yes, literally in the print newspaper headline.
I don't know if they've changed it digitally online. I
meant to take a picture of it and tweet it out.
But yes, my newspaper this morning. I'm sitting there reading,
(05:29):
as I do every morning, the New York Times and
then the Wall Street Journal or vice versa, you know,
old school, old man print school copy, and I just
to know what everybody's saying. And Paul Krugman says that
you can't negotiate that these are economic terrorists. In the
Republican Party who are attempting to question the amount of
(05:52):
money that's being spent. And so I think what we're
gonna get, Buck, I think we are moving towards an era.
This is my year. Clinton and Newt Gingrich hammered out
a budget that actually ended Remember that we had a surplus,
like we were actually bringing in more money than we
were spending, and our national debt actually started to go down.
(06:16):
And I think that was like ninety seven, ninety eight,
ninety nine. More of my argument, Buck that the late
nineties were the greatest moments in American history, and then
in the two thousands nine eleven happens budgets get blown up,
and since then we've basically allowed ourselves to believe one
crisis after another justifies as much spending as as as
(06:39):
we feel like we want to toss out there, right,
And Joe Biden was willing to spend five trillion more
dollars even though it took us a double digit inflation.
And so I wonder if there's going to be a
sort of acknowledgement of, hey, this is a big issue
and we have to resolve it. And the debt ceiling
(07:01):
is really just a prelude to a more substantive conversation
about a much bigger issue. Interesting in this exchange in
the New York Times, I'm seeing they had an opinion
an opinion section piece where they had I think it
was a podcast. They did a transcript of it and
a naked case that for this is from this transcript
(07:21):
for Republicans, the showdown in twenty eleven, they're firing previous
debt ceiling fights was the signal achievement of the Tea
Party staring down President Barack Obama and forcing the cuts
associated with the Budget Control Act. It validated one of
the animating forces of the right over the past decade
that the party's failures are a result of weak, feckless
leadership and if they fight, they win. For Democrats, this
(07:44):
is this guy Donovan saying this. For Democrats, including Joe Biden,
who as Vice President had a front row seat to
that deal, it was evidence of why you should never
negotiate under these circumstances, because it enables and encourages more
hostage taking. So what I think is interesting about about
how they frame this is that Clay Okay, Republicans the
(08:04):
Budget Control Act for people who actually remember the Budget
Control Act, and I'm going to say this is part
of why I think the Tea Party started to lose
a little bit of steam. The Budget Control Act was
a reduction in the amount of increase in federal spending. Yeah,
it wasn't actually going net decrease in all federal spending.
The Budget Control Act was we were going to increase
(08:28):
it by you know whatever. It was a few percentage points, which,
in the context of a multi trillion dollar federal budget
is a massive amount of money. We're gonna drop that
down a little bit. So instead of increasing the budget,
you know, three percent, we're going to increase increase at
two point five percent or two percent. I forget what
the numbers were, but that's what that huge fight was
over a decrease in the increase. Yes, well, and that's
(08:51):
well said. And remember for you know, just back of
the envelope math here. And I'm far from an economist,
but the amount we have to spend on social security
and medicare continues to grow, and it's growing now much
faster because the cost of living increases have to take
into account the massive rate of inflation. So we're getting
(09:13):
a big hit there to our budget simultaneously, we are
hitting monster numbers as it pertains to the five percent
soon to be five percent, I believe overall interest rate,
you know, and Buck. This is one of the things
that I think Trump floated that was brilliant, that got
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almost no attention. Trump said, Hey, why wouldn't we go
ahead and refy our And again I don't know all
of the economic you know, involvement here, but he said,
why wouldn't we lock in the rate of our national
debt the money that we have borrowed at like zero
or one percent interest when that was the rate, instead
(09:57):
of allowing it to float almost like you know, if
you're a if you're taking out a mortgage and you've
got a three percent mortgage. One reason the housing market
has frozen is a lot of people have a three
percent mortgage and they're like, why in the world would
I move and take a seven percent mortgage. It's going
to cost me way more money, even if I like
a new house better. Why wouldn't we have locked in
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if it's possible? And Trump floated the idea, and I
thought it was brilliant. Our national interest rate, like you
would lock in a mortgage when the rates were really low.
I know this will sound sweeping because it is, and
it's not true in all cases, but I think it
is fair to say that our political leadership class, whether
it's in the White House or in Congress, is generally
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mathematically and financially illiterate. Well, yes, there's that too. Not
all of them, obviously, but a lot of them. And
actually one of the things that Trump brought to the
table was an understanding of certainly business on the financial
side of things. And this is why to this day
I said ago, no one ever gives Trump credit for
the fact that the Biden trade policy visa each China
(11:05):
is the Trump trade policy. I remember they were saying
he's gonna start a trade war, he's gonna destroy the economy,
people like Krugman, by the way, saying that Trump was
right on that stuff. Yeah, and it is funny. You're right,
Biden hasn't even touched it. And you know what the
reality is, if Biden had come in and just continue
to run all Trump policies in every facet, the country
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a handful of documents who are failed for files in
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the wrong place. We immediately turned them over to the
archives in the Justice Department. We're fully cooperating, looking forward
to getting this resolved quickly. You're gonna find there's nothing there.
I have no regrets that following what they were lawyers
have told me they want me to do exactly what
we're doing. There's no there there. There's no there there
(13:12):
except the documents were there and there and there classified
documents that Joe Biden left in various places. I do
think it's hard for us not to take a moment
here to remember that it was just a few months
ago that we were told what was it in August
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of last year, that what Donald Trump had done keeping
documents that he says he declassified when he was president,
which he has the full authority as president to do
in a locked storage area of Mara Lago, that apparently
included something written on a napkin. I don't know. I
just I don't buy that the nuclear codes were written
on a napkin. I'm just gonna say it I don't
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think that our most sensitive assets were all written on
the back of a cocktail napkin. I'm gonna go out
on a limb. But they made a huge deal of it.
They have a special counsel, a component of a special
counsel investigation over this issue, and now Joe Biden trying
to tell everybody it's it's no big deal. Now. My
contention with all of this is it I still think
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this is a a subject to change. Events can overtake analysis
on this. I still believe that Joe Biden is going
to run. I still believe that Joe Biden is going
to be able to get past this classified documents story.
I don't think this is the thing that brings Joe
Biden down. That's my belief. I could be wrong, but
(14:40):
I believe that they're going to run this special counsel
investigation and the system knows what to do here, just
like the system at some level with Hillary did what
it had to do to protect her when she was running.
But then there's this other stuff that keeps percolating. Clay,
a little more comes out, a little more comes out,
just from a daily mail. It's an exclusive all in
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the family. Joe Biden is named in a twenty seventeen
email discussing multimillion dollar gas deal with China, with the
Louisiana lawyer writing to brother Jim that he arranged a
call with the former Vice president and his son Hunter
to discuss the purchase. Now, I understand that it's easy
(15:24):
to get kind of lost into some of these details.
We've heard a lot of stuff about the Biden crime
family beforem what it's up to. But I think we're
starting to get closer and closer to it becomes inevitable
for people to realize that Joe Biden was not just
the name they were selling, That Joe Biden was himself
part of the access pedaling scheme, knew about it, lied
(15:47):
about knowing about it, and this is corrupt. I mean,
at a minimum, there should be a political price that
you would think has to be paid as a result
of this. I think Joe Biden thought his political career
was over. That's the the sort of lynchpin of why
all of this would have occurred with Hunter and decided
I've had my tenure in the United States government. Now
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it's time to make money. And I think he flipped
aggressively to let's make money and have some legacy for
the Biden family to show for the forty plus years
that we spent in office. And I don't think he
ever contemplated that he was going to be running for
president necessarily. I just don't think he thought there was
a lane for him to be elected president in twenty
(16:34):
seventeen and twenty eighteen when all of these activities and
actions were ongoing. And Buck, I'll just point out there
are the photos and videos of Hunter Biden driving Joe
Biden's corvette. The corvette that we know because Joe Biden
said it himself was in the garage alongside of the
(16:57):
classified documents that were in his home that should be
out there. Remember you mentioned this a little bit ago
after the Marlago raid. I think we talked about this.
We said, oh, you know what there's going to be.
They're going to argue that these are incredibly dangerous documents.
They came out and said, you know, nuclear codes like
all this. What were the documents that everybody had access
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to in Joe Biden's garage and how many other places
were these documents stored and why would he have them? Right?
My argument here has been somebody knew that Biden had
something he wasn't supposed to have, and that's why they
had a thousand dollars an hour attorneys going through these documents. Because,
remember Buck, the first argument they put out was, well,
(17:41):
we just discovered these in the process of closing down
that office at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, DC.
But then the details didn't really make sense. How did
you discover them? Well, a warrior found an envelope, and
then he opened that envelope and he pulled the papers out,
and he saw that they hadn't classified markings on them.
Why did you have a lawyer who was making a
(18:02):
thousand dollars an hour going through your documents? That's moving's
not fun. Moving with movers who cost a thousand dollars
an hour, it would really be not fun. I got
news for you. I got news for you again. I'm
an expert move. I'm an expert in making scrambled eggs
and moving apartments. Uh, these are things I've done far
(18:23):
too many times. The twenty percent suggested tip in cash
at the end of the move is not really suggested.
Like all of a sudden, your trade you know, your
your prized vase is gonna have a crack at it.
You gotta pay the guys. I look they where I
will say. One of the jobs that I believe I'm
amazed at how hard people work is movers. Moving is
(18:44):
one of those jobs where I'm just like, so, I'm
happy to pay there there, But I just think it's
funny because there's always and it's always in cash, and
it's twenty percent. It's at the end they've earned every penny.
But there's no like, yeah, I think we're gonna do
like a ten percent. No no no, no, no, it's twenty percent.
So that hasn't exploit We have a thousand dollars attorney
who was opening envelopes and finding classified documents. So what's
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he looking for? What are these documents consist of? And
how many people had access to them? Those are really
pretty integral questions. You know. There's there's stonewalling that the
White House is engaging in, and I think, unfortunately they're
going to be able to, as they always are, get
away with it to a large extent. I don't think
we should overpromise what's likely to come out of all
this because the media apparatus is still for now, they're
(19:30):
still behind Biden. I think there's been a little bit
of a jump a little too soon on our side too. Oh,
this is this is an internal coude to push Biden out.
I know that was a first impulse a lot of
people had. I don't think this is that. I think
this is Joe Biden now. And by the way, I've
(19:51):
changed my thinking on this the more I've gone through it.
So I don't pretend that this is an obvious answer
or that I'm definitely right. But I just think Joe
Biden is a buffoon. Yes, and now you are trying
to play I think this is clean up on Aisle Biden,
and it's just not an easy thing to clean up
because of the Mara Lago doc you know, Embrolio specifically,
and so they're trying to figure this out. Now. Could
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this have the effect down the line of helping to
pressure Biden to not wrong again? Yeah, sure maybe, but
I don't think, you know, especially when people said, oh,
you know, maybe they put the documents there. Now they
have all I think they have all the leverage they
need with Hunter, and that's a much more clear path
to the apparatus. Pushing Joe aside. This document thing he's
(20:33):
gonna be able to ride this one out just like Hillary,
look just like Trump. I mean, there's a controversy of
the documents. You can say Trump's not in the wrong
or only a little bit in the wrong, but there
were classified documents there that they had to turn over.
So I just don't see. I don't think this is
the end. That's my site. I particularly I agree with you,
and I particularly think that Buck because the person who
they would have in the wings waiting to take over
(20:55):
is worse than Joe Biden. So I think Democrats are
trying to forestall the battle that eventually they're going to
have to have to keep Kamala from being the nominee
because she's such a disastrous candidate. In fact, when we
come back in the next segment, I have a theory
that Kamala Harris's speechwriters all hate her and regularly put
(21:16):
things in the speech for her to read that they
know is going to look and sound awful. And if
the vice president for Joe Biden, let's presume Barack Obama
was Joe Biden's vice president right now, I think one
hundred percent there would be a mechanism underway to try
to knock Biden out, so Joe Biden didn't run and
(21:40):
Barack Obama could run if there was an extremely able
vice president. I would buy into that argument. The problem
is if you knock Biden out, the later that it
takes to knock Biden out Buck, the more guaranteed it
is that it's Kamala who would basically just take the baton, right,
because if Biden suddenly came out in July or August
(22:02):
and said, hey, guys, I'm not running for reelection next year,
it would be such a rapid turnaround. Nobody would have
the infrastructure or the campaigns up to be able to run.
So Kamala would get that baton. If there were somebody
really capable behind him, I might buy into that. I
don't hear, but this Kamala talking about electricity, I think
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of playing buckets going right now, everybody, and we had
started off today talking about how they're telling us they
couldn't find the leaker of the dab's decision from the
Supreme Court. Big implications from that we all recall or
(24:18):
a crazy person showed up outside of Kavanaugh's house saying
he wanted to assassinate a Supreme Court justice. There was
pressure brought to bear because of this leak, and there
were risks and there were dangers out there as a result.
No leaker found what happened here? Do we trust that
they turned over every stone? Shannon Bream is with us.
(24:39):
She is Fox News is chief Supreme Court Legal analyst. Shannon.
Great to have you on. It is my pleasure, buck.
How are you. I'm good, It's been a while since
we talked to you. We always always are very happy
when you get a moment to join us here, Shannon,
I just wanted really your We can get into some
of the details and some of what you think the
implications of this will be down the line. But first,
(25:01):
what was your thirty thousand foot view when the announcement
came out. Nothing. They didn't find out who did this. Yeah,
and they say that they'll keep following leads and looking
at things that they have, but it sounded to me
like they got nothing because the warning of the statement
from the chord said, after everything we've done, forensic it, audit,
cell phones, texts, sworn off a David's interviews, we could
(25:24):
not find anyone by a preponderance of the evidence. Would
you know that's such a low standard. It's basically that
something is more. Thanks for coming on. First of all,
I'm gonna give you some props. This is a big deal.
You are killing it on Fox News Sunday as the host.
If people haven't checked it out, they should thank you.
And you are going to be doing your show from
the end zone of the Super Bowl. Now. I know
(25:46):
your husband, he's fantastic. Is that maybe the thing he's
most impressed that you have ever pulled off in your
career to get to do a show from the Super
Bowl End Zone on the Sunday of Super Bowl Sunday.
Probably so, although he was much less impressed with my
football skills, he actually bought me a nurse football and
is making me throw it because there's talk that I
may have to do some of these NFL's roles or
(26:07):
something more there. You don't want to pull a Fauci
on the baseball, Tosh Shannon. You got to get the
arm loose and get a little bit of practice out there.
I've not mastered the spiral, that's for sure. So Buck
and Eye were talking, So congratulations on all that. Buck
and Eye were talking in the first hour and he
was reading through and I'm sure you did as well.
Even if they had found the person, the criminal behavior
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is a bit of a stretch in terms of what
they could be charged with. Do you think there might
be any motivation in the wake of this leak to
potentially have a statute drafted that would make it criminal
to engage in behavior like this as a further sign
not just to break the Supreme Court mores and traditions,
(26:53):
but also in the similar way that if you worked
at the CIA or the FBI and you were caught
leaking internally that that might make it clear that it's
a criminal offense. Does that make sense? Yeah, I totally
get it. And that's a great question because there are
laws out there that have to do with handling classified information.
A Supreme Court document, a draft of an opinion is
(27:15):
not considered classified. There are codes, ethics codes, those kinds
of things, but not necessarily a criminal penalty for disclosing
something that's secret information at the Supreme Court. That's another
reason that people have questions. Listen to, the Chief Justice
kept it in house. They wanted the Marshal inside the
Supreme Court to handle this. But there's also this question
(27:36):
of Okay, if you brought in the FBI or DJ
which I can understand the reasons the may not want
to do that, But then if somebody lies to a
federal agent or investigator, that's a whole different issue versus Listen,
you can still get in trouble for signing a sworn statement,
which they say everybody they interview did, and they all
did that under penalty of perjury and denied that they
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leaked the document. But you know, when you bring in
a federal agent, I think that turns up the temperature
and for whatever reason, the chief said, we're not going
to do that. So Shannon, it sounds like they could
have gone at a little more all out here than
they did at a minimum, right, I mean, whether they
were even willing to chase it in every way they
could with what they deployed here, they decided not to
(28:19):
go with the full heat that they could. Well, what's
tricky is you have classes of clerks. These you guys know,
they serve a year there and they generally cycle in
and out in July. So anybody who left in July
of twenty twenty two was no longer under the reach
of this investigation because it was being done internally of
Supreme Courts employees. And once they were gone, who knows
(28:41):
if it involved a clerk or not, but if it did,
you've now lost the ability to pursue that any further.
So that may be a gaping hole for a lot
of people that you would think, Okay, they are a
logical place to look. They potentially have different motivations, they
may be completely in the clear, but once they left
in July, this internal investigation had no way to reach them. Shannon,
I'm curious how you would assess this Buck and I
(29:03):
were also talking about, Hey, if you're a journalist and
a draft opinion gets dropped into your lap, one of
the first things I would think is, okay, am I
getting set up? Because there are lots of different opinions
that could or could not be valid. It's also possible,
you will know, every major law firm in the country
(29:24):
could have somebody draft one, right. I mean, it's not
an exact science of what these things will look like.
So if I'm Politico, it's not only that I've got
the draft, it's that whoever is giving me the draft
has to be so supremely reliable that I'm willing to
go out there on a limb, because you're probably not
going to get any confirmation, right, Like, It's not like
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you can call them up and be like, hey, Supreme Court,
we got its draft opinion. The Supreme Court's not gonna say, yeah,
it's accurate or inaccurate. Doesn't that lead you to believe
that whatever route by which this opinion got to them,
Politico felt like, Okay, this is a slam dunk. This
is one hundred percent reel. Yeah, and it makes it
feel like it lends credence to the theory that it
(30:07):
was an inside job. Also because the report we got
from the Supreme Court yesterday said we went through all
of our it, we used all the forensics we've had,
and we found it highly unlikely that someone breached our
system from outside or that this was a hack, which
is essentially them saying, too again, it sounds like it's
an inside job. And you're right. If I'm a reporter
and somebody brings it to me, you're every alarm and
(30:31):
bell and whistle is going to go off in your
head unless you are convinced that person had direct access
to it. And we know from this report there were
eighty two different people who did Yeah you don't. You
don't want to get Dan Rather? National Guard documented on
this one, So yeah, right, yeah they did. And I
like the way you described that is if it's its
own like dictionary entry, I think it kind of is
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at this point, right, you got you got Dan Rather,
you got Dan Rathered, you ran with the fake docs,
and now you've got to pay the price. Shannon. In
the long term, we're speaking of Shannon Bream, Fox News
is chief Judicial Chief Supreme Court Analysts Shannon the the
court going forward, do you think that people were we
(31:14):
all just kind of aware that it was very politicized
before this, and so this doesn't do much. Or do
you think this has really shifted in shape perception about
a willingness to use the court and really abuse the
court as a weapon of politics. Yeah, and listen, the court,
it goes through waves of people who don't like it.
Whether your party appointees are short of in the majority
or they're in the minority. People, you know, we'll have
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all kinds of very distinct criticisms of the court right now.
Democrats don't like it. They are in the minority when
it comes to their party's nominees, and so they talk
constantly about packing the court, about doing things to the
court so that it won't be political. Whereas you have
members of the court, including Justice Stephen Bryer, who was
on the left of the court, say when you start
(31:56):
to do stuff like that, it does politicize the court
and it does make the or it looked political. So listen,
there are people who are they've been split over robe
weight for fifty years, and so no matter what the
court did, the other side was going to view it
as political. You know, the substance of the decision, aside
from the fact that it was leaked. But that's the
absolute last thing. The justices over their one and they're
(32:17):
very sensitive to that. You know, any portrayal of them
is being partisan. Shannon, We're sitting at fifty one forty
nine for theoretically the next two years, assuming people stay healthy.
In all those things, there seems to be a certain
amount of pressure that is get ratcheted getting ratcheted up
on some of the older justices on the left wing,
even though they aren't particularly that old. With the idea
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being you look at that map, twenty twenty four Senate
majority seems like it's really going to be in peril.
Maybe the Democrats dodged one here. Do you get the
sense that Joe Biden might have the chance to appoint
another justice or do you think everybody's basically going to
stay locked in, even though it may be a while
until we have at Democrats Senate and a Democrat president
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both in office. Yeah, I think all the appointees, all
the current justices on the Court have very much invested
in staying put as long as they possibly can, for
various reasons that make sense based on the party that
put them there. The justices on the left side. I mean,
they're relatively young in terms of Supreme Court justices, so
absent something that forced them to step down, I don't
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see them going anywhere. You remember the enormous pressure that
was on Justice Ginsburg to step down before President Trump's election.
She was into her eighties and saying, you know, get lost,
I'm not going anywhere. So you know, there's always speculation
too about the Republican appointees. They are by and large
older than the other side of the bench, but they're
going to do everything they can to hang on through
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the next presidential election, no doubt. Shannon bringing everybody. Shannon,
appreciate you joining us, and you should check out Shannon
Show and look for her on Fox News. Shannon, thanks
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Really smart guy. If you want a bunch of wonky
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like slow him down. He was just rattling them off,
ratting him off. He's at the Blaze where I hard
in my media career. So I'm very fond of the
Blaze and very thankful to Glenn Beck always. But also
talk to Ann Coulter, which I know for some of you,
super exciting conversation you want to hear some others of you,
I don't know, maybe you want to check it out.
Maybe you might disagree with some of what miss Culter
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puts out there with the Culter flamethrower, but she doesn't
mess around. And also our friend Carolyn Levitt who ran
that that valiant campaign in New Hampshire. But she's an
up and coming well media personality and gen Z gen
Z not even Valadio gen Z right winger. And she
really tries to sell me on New Hampshire as an
(36:39):
amazing state. How much time have I've spent? I think
I've been in New Hampshire twice. I don't know it.
I don't know it well enough to have a real
informed opinion, is what I would say about it. So
she tries to sell me, have you spent much time
up in New Hampshire. Yeah, I'm trying to think battles
of Lexington and Concord. We are in New Hampshire, right,
(36:59):
I think I'm correcting that the start of the revolutionary Massachusetts.
Oh man, oh man, that's a big whiff by me.
That in fact, like that might be my biggest historical
whiff of all time, because clearly you drive from Boston
out there. But the point on this is I haven't
spent very much time in the in the northeast, uh
(37:20):
in like I would say the New England states. So
I'm trying to think I've flown into Manchester a few times.
But I don't think I've ever really spent any time
going around in New Hampshire. Now. I've been to Maine,
I've been to Massachusetts, but not a lot of time
in the New England states. And I am just in
in disbelief that I got Lexington and Concord wrong and
(37:41):
thought that they were in New Hampshire instead of it right.
You're a civil war guy, that's revolutionary war. I know
that that is. That's a whiff. So uh yes, And
I'm by the way interviewing Alexey Lawless today. You'll be
able to hear a conversation with Alexei Lawless, obviously big
time US soccer fan. Um I might hit him with
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the because you see Alexey Lawless and your your mind
goes back to the nineties Hackey Sack and Dave Matthews band,
I think right away. And also when Goates had a
real moment in the nineties. Some of the people listening
is I don't mean like a well kept little I
mean like, uh, you know, King tut kind of got yeah,
(38:22):
like the you know, the yep, the got was very
powerful there. I was gonna say I was gonna hit
Alexi Lawless with this Babylon b UH headline that I
saw yesterday. We were talking about the NHL and the
player who didn't want to wear the Gay Pride UH
jersey and the Babylon b headline. I'm reading it. NHL
player says, if he wanted to support the gays, he'd
(38:45):
be playing soccer. That is what that is the Babylon
be headline. That is really funny. And you, one of
you are sports fan, read that you laughed. Every single
sports fan who reads that will laugh. I believe a
lot of them are woke and will claim they did
not laugh. But anyway, I'll ask him about that. So
I teased Buck this audio that I heard yesterday. So
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this this individual has been charged and need to remember
his name. By the way, Ali says, not only did
I get Lexington and Concord wrong, Buck, she grew up
in Lexington, mass and Concord, so I actually whipped on
her hometown. I have toured but the Lexington and Concord
(39:30):
by the way, so it was a whiff not only
by me historically, but also of course Ali actually is
from the place that I whipped on and got in
the wrong state. But do we tell everybody that the
reason we're talking about this Lexie Lawless, New Hampshire, because
of Carolyn Levitt, because the clayon Buck podcast Dream Now,
even if you listen to our full radio show, there
(39:50):
are now additional episodes, sit downs, talks going into clayon
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The iHeart app a really good place to go this weekend,
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miss a momentum. So the killing that happened also in Massachusetts, uh,
(40:16):
this alleged killing, because we still don't have a body.
They have arrested this woman's husband for the charges and
A Walsh, right, what the husband's name do you remember?
Um something Walsh? I don't remember his first Brian Walsh,
Brian Walsh whatever. You're talking about somebody who's accused of
a grizzly murder. You know, you always want to get
the name. Yeah, exactly right. So he has been arrested,
(40:39):
accused of murder. This is what it sounded like as
the juror as the judge read the evidence against him.
In particular, there have been allegations that he was using
Google to look up things that were very incriminating. But
when you hear them read back to back to back
in the timeline. If you have heard this, your jaws
(41:01):
about to drop. This was in Massachusetts as part of
the hearing in front of the judge. This is the
evidence arrayed against this individual, Brian Walsh. At four fifty
five am on Jerry First, he searched how long before
a body starts to snow? At four fifty eight am.
How to stop a body from decomposing? At five forty
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seven am. Ten ways to dispose of the dead body
if you really need to At six twenty five am.
On the first, how long for someone to be missing
to inherit at six thirty four am one the first
can we throw away forty pots? At nine to nine am,
can identification you may on passion remains at eleven thirty
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four am. Dismemberment in the best ways to dispose of
a body at eleven forty four piper pin blood from
wooden floor at eleven fifty six on the first moment
on to detect flood at one eight. What happens? I mean,
(42:11):
oh my god, Now those are Google searches. It basically
as and and some of you. If you couldn't hear
every word, you can go watch. I shared this video
on my twitter feed. You can scroll down and you
can go find it of him standing there as all
these Google searches that they had uncovered or read out
that he had allegedly done in the wake of his
(42:34):
wife's departure. We don't know what happened to her, right,
So if you're the defense attorney and you hear all
that evidence that we just played of all the things
that he was searching for. Also he went and bought
four hundred and fifty dollars in cleaning supplies from home
depot and was caught lying about that. I don't know.
(42:55):
This is the only defense that I can think of, Buck,
is that this is like Gone Girl. Did you see
the movie Gone Girl? Yeah? But unless he has you know,
seven chapters written over the last six months, So you're
talking about the murder the murder novel defense, right, Well, no, no,
he could do the murder novel defense. The one that
I think the only one that actually applies here is
(43:16):
that his wife set him up and yet she's spoiler
alert spoiler alert if you haven't seen the movie Gone Girl.
The idea is the husband killed her and she actually
fled and set him up. This guy's going to prison
for a very long time as as he well should.
That's obviously these defenses, they're very highly theoretical and not
(43:37):
going to sway a jury given. This is the closest
thing I have ever seen in any criminal case, and
I think anyone has ever seen in a criminal case
to effectively a um. It's almost like a confession by
by Google search. Yes, that's a confession by Google search,
meaning you're like, I'm going to do this, and then
I'm going to do this, and then I'm going to this.
(43:58):
He goes through these things. There's no way to explain
any of that in the real world. That doesn't make
it seem obvious that this is a guy who was
planning the murder of his wife. I mean, the whole
thing is I think they have three kids. Well, you know,
it's sounds like he was trying maybe to get life
insurance money. Is if you're wondering what was going on there,
but to try to plan uh, first degree murder through
(44:23):
your you know, through Google searches. It just shows, I
mean a lot of people just have no understanding of
the Internet searchability. You know the fact that every that
everything is effectively logged always in forever, um and that
these are things Now in this case, obviously it's good
because there's additional evidence here, but even in the um,
you know, it's good that that this guy was so
(44:45):
sloppy because I think he's going to end up getting
very easily convicted. UM. But even in the case in Idaho,
there's somebody who was studying criminology, which is which was
another aspect of this as we talked about and um
studying criminology and didn't really understand cell phone tower geolocation
(45:05):
and how all of that works, but also how it
would look to law enforcement, how they can piece this together.
Things like turning the phone off just during the murder period,
is itself an indicator that something was going on, right
that doesn't cover you if you never turn your phone
off for six months previously at that time. So there
are some of those things that come together. And and
(45:26):
you know, Clay, we talked about the how there looks
there are reports, these are not confirmed by law enforcement.
There are reports in the media that there were some
effort by the alleged quadruple murderer in Moscow, Idaho, to
reach out to one of those one of those young women.
Just another indicator of social people are. Social media puts
(45:48):
a lot out there and can create a lot of
problems for folks even if they don't Even if they
don't do anything wrong, just the information that they put
out there can be can be used against them. One
of my buddies and I used to think he was crazy.
One of my buddies was always super He was super
careful that he never posted anything on social media when
(46:10):
he was still at the venue. And I always thought
that was kind of crazy. And then later I'm like,
you know, I kind of see that argument. There's a guy.
But if you're a girl and you're listening to us
right now. Given how easy it is for people to
keep tabs on social media accounts, posting like a photo
from a bar that you might be at or somewhere
(46:32):
that you're out with friends while you're still there, probably
not a good idea, right like, wait till you get
back home, post them the next morning, whatever it might be.
Instead of giving people a target theoretically of where you are.
I'm sure you know you probably are covering this on
Outkake because of the sports component of the story. But
this gymnast and TikTok sensation Olivia Done, Yeah, she has
(46:56):
had to get police involved because of social media. You know,
because of social media fans and people increasingly, everyone's sharing.
They're sharing where they are, they're sharing who they're with,
they're sharing where they're going. You know, when you become
a figure of public influence like this, even if you're
a TikTok influencer or Instagram star or whatever it may be,
(47:18):
there are a lot of crazy people out there, and
I think, you know, I think people don't learn the
security protocols that would be necessary and helpful for them
to stay safe if they're going to have millions of
people looking at all their photos and their day to
day lives. Olivia Done, for those of you who don't know,
is a LSU women's gymnastics star. I mean, LSU has
a great gymnastics program. She is probably the highest earning
(47:42):
in IL female athlete in the country. That's name, image
and likeness, which is now legal. She's made millions of dollars.
It's good looking, smart, savvy on TikTok and Instagram and
all these sites where people in their teens in their
twenties would spend a lot of time. But it has
brought with it an unbelievable crush of attention. And frankly,
(48:07):
I don't think it's if you were a member of
say the LSU football team. They're kind of used to
the idea. Joe Burrow had a lot of fans, right,
and they're I think, kind of aware of how to
handle that. I don't think that they've ever experienced anything
like this in gymnastics like they would have in football
or men's basketball, where the on rush and the amount
of attention from fans would be so overwhelming. But she's
(48:29):
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