March 15, 2023 • 47 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of Clay in Bucks
starts right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us.
Clay on vacation in Italy. I believe he's in Roma
right now, so our thoughts are with him and his
family as they are eating some delicious pizza, which we,
(00:24):
of course in this country call pizza and uh yeah,
he's having a good time. So we have some updates
here on the financial financial front for you just to
keep an eye on all this, because the biggest story
in the country, and in fact the biggest story in
the world right now, is the oh rickety unsecure, swaying
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back and forth structure of our banks at this point
in time, right it's not looking good. It's not looking
like this is going to head into a healthy direction.
I thought it was interesting Kevin O'Leary of Shark Tank,
we played some sound bites from him yesterday. I know
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he was on Sean Show last night and Kevin O'Leary
had billions of his of dollars of companies he's involved
with in Silicon Valley Bank. But to his credit, he's like, look, yeah,
I got money there. I got money all over the place.
A lot of people have been hit by this. When
you're talking about two hundred billion dollars of deposits that
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covers a broad swath of territory. I mentioned to you
the massive Swiss bank credit Suits, which is pleading now
with the Swiss Central Bank for support. Shares of credit
Suits have gone down thirty percent. Also Moody's and the
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SMP jumping in with different cuts to the status downgrades
I should say, to the status of bonds of some
of these banks. First Republic Bank for example now at
junks status and the big four banks are in a
difficult spot for right now. Not not a perilous spot,
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but there there's stocks a little bit down today. Let's
I don't want to overstate anything here, but the stocks
are the people are worried. Obviously, people are concerned, and
I think what you're really going to have to look
for is the rate hike going up, the hiking rates
the next time around. If they do that, I think
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you got to assume we're heading into a recession. Probably.
If they don't do that, well, then we're just gonna
keep having inflation continue to eat away at your savings
and make everything more expensive, and there is no good
option here, and that actually makes sense. And I think
that's the part of this that's so hard. This is
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the cause and effect portion of our monetary policy and
our national financial reality, that if you spend too much money,
you will create inflation. And then if you spend too
much money and try to bring inflation down by bringing
interest rates up, you will have a reduction in the
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money supply and economic activity and a likely recession. They
keep saying, well, if we do it the right way,
if we just do it just enough, it's going to
be perfect. There are a lot of assumptions built into that.
And I think given that we just saw a bank
run and some bank failures that seemingly came out of nowhere,
they didn't. Of course, they were growing for a long time,
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but we certainly weren't hearing about it. You got to
be prepared for what they say, expect the unexpected in
the financial world, or Rumsfeldian unknown unknowns. Rumsfeld was quite
a character back in this day, very smart, very impressive guy.
Rack War didn't turn out the way it was posted,
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but Rumswell was an interesting fellow. Now I'd mentioned to
you switching gears here. I just want to keep I'm
keeping an eye on the financial realities, and I'm also
reaching out. I mean, I've got We've got a couple
of We've got a couple of MBAs in my family.
We got a banker in my family. I mean, I
got a lot of people that I can tap for
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their knowledge of how these systems work. And then all
what I was graduating from college, the two jobs that
everybody went into, at least out of my school. I
went to Amherst up in Massachusetts, which, yes, is one
of these places that has woke and has completely lost
its mind if it ever had a mind to lose
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even when I was there. But Amherst and many other schools,
everybody went into investment banking or management consulting. That was
I went into the CIA different path, But investment banking,
management consulting, those are the two things that people wanted
to do. And I do think that a lot of
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that world has changed dramatically in the past twenty years
such that well, anyway, I try to encourage people to
do things that they at least would like to do.
You want to find that sweet spot for anyone who's
listening who's still figuring out what their career might be,
or if you've got kids who are going to be
thinking about this soon. You want to find something that
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you are both interested in. Not that you it's a job, right,
it's not. You're not going to pay to get a BackRub.
There's gonna be work, there's gonna be frustration, there's gonna
be time, there's gonna be a lot of stuff you
have to give to it. But something you are interested
in and that you can be compensated enough for your
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lifestyle choice. That's what I try to tell people. So
you have to be you have to be willing to
do it a lot and grow your skill set within it,
which requires interest. Otherwise you're just going to burn out
and lose your mind and be miserable, and nobody wants that.
But you also want to make sure you know, you
know what the upside of it could be financially. Now,
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that does not everybody has to be a banker or
investment banker trying to be a millionaire. Obviously people are
finding out maybe we have too many of those anyway.
But you know, if you're if you're gonna be a
if you're gonna be a guidance counselor you're not gonna
make a million dollars a year, which is fine, but
you just got to know these things when you go
into it, right, you've got to understand what role you're taking. Anyway,
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speaking of colleges, Wellesley College, Wellesley College, Hillary Clinton's Almamont,
I'm trying to think who else, who else? There's all
these schools that famous people who didn't matel did mattel
An Albright go to Wellesley? I want to say that's
maybe I'm just making that up. I'm just going by
memory here, folks three hours Alive Radio. You got to
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come up with a lot of stuff on the fly.
But Wellesley College is in the midst of a very
interesting debate. It's a women's college, right, very straightforward. You
could only go there if you're a woman. I went
to college down the street from down the street, roughly
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speaking a few maybe you know, seven miles and twelve
miles respectively or something away from Smith and Holio Colleges,
which are also women's colleges. I believe they're called the
Seven Sister Schools, but that that maybe I may be
mixing some of them up. So Wellesley has a problem
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on a chance because women who make up the student body.
Oh by the way, I'm right, yeah, Madeline Albright team,
did you already know that I nailed that one. I
don't know why I second guessed myself when it comes
to random trivia on the fly, I'm pretty solid. So
Wellesley College has had a referendum. It is non binding,
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but students have called for the women's college to be
open to all non binary and trans gender applicants, including
trans men. So you are now going to have, assuming
the university or the college in this case allows this,
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you're going to have biological males attending a women's college.
Now I do wonder what the realm, what the rules
and regulations for this are going to be, Like, how
would they even judge? As they say, it's if you
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have been there some verbiage in here that says if
you live your life as a woman, then you qualify basically,
oh sorry, consistently identify as a woman is the term
of art I think they have used here. But the
the president, Paula Johnson, is getting some pushbacks. She says
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that Wellesley was found that the then radical idea that
educating women of all social economic backgrounds leads to progress
for everyone. As a college and community, we continue to
challenge the norms and power structures that too often leave
women and others of marginalized identities behind. The students entirely disagree.
They are all freaking out, and they are saying that
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we need to include trans men, right trans trans or
no trans women, sorry trans women. Men who are now
identifying as women. You know, I got just tell you
if I were a woman, and I'm not and I
do not identify as one, if I were a woman,
I would find this all so offensive, honestly, And I
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guess at some level for men, the notion that a man,
that a trans man would be able to sit down
across from me and give me a lecture on manhood
that I would listen to, that I would. I would
want to hear her lived experience about being a man
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for I don't know, six months, three months, whatever it is,
as women have been subjected to as you've seen recently.
I mean, there's this video that's circularly everywhere of Drew Barrymore,
who has a daytime TV show which I I didn't
know it was possible to have a lower IQ show
than the view. But there is a Drew Barrymore daytime
TV show, and and she's kneeling and hugging the transwoman
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who went to the White House and Biden sat down
with and the trans woman who was lecturing women on womanhood. Basically,
you're saying, you know this is let me tell you
all about my womanhood as a guy. It's just this.
Every guy, every guy that I know, without exception, would
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just think it was absurd, to the point if they wouldn't,
it wouldn't even connect. They wouldn't even pay attention. If
a transgender man, a biological female sat down, you know,
cut her hair short, wara were like a you know,
a plaid shirt. You know it's a little big, and
started telling the guys about what it is to be
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a man. Look, if people want to dress however, they
want to cut their hair, that's all fine, no problem
with that, of course. But the notion that we're supposed
to see the superficialities of style choice as somehow indicative
of the innate and immutable characteristic of one's gender, what
sex you are, is crazy. You can sit any woman
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in the world down across from a man and doesn't
matter what she identifies as the guy is going to
sit there and be like, I'm I'm not listening to Well,
a normal man of reasonable mind and testosterone levels would
sit there and say, I'm not going to listen to this.
But women are being told now that it's almost as
though they have something to learn from the trans women
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who have been women for like a few minutes or
a few months or whatever. I just find it. I
find it on behalf of women. I wanted to be offended.
I guess I can't do that because I'm not a woman,
but I would find it just so. Oh so someone
speaks in a high sort of a high voice, grows
their hair long, maybe has breast implants put in, and
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puts a lot of makeup on their face, and now
they understand what it is to be a woman. That's
because they say, so, this is where we are. I
would be fascinated to be in these Wellesley classrooms where
these trans male students are being or I think they're
already being admitted. I can't even keep up. I think
if you're like nonsis gender, it's the stuff is difficult,
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I know, or you speak in circles about it because
it runs in circles. The whole thing is absurd. But yes,
we are at the stage now where women's colleges are
admitting men under the idea that they're actually women. And
this is what is happening. Whether it's official at Wellesley
yet or not, or whether it's just this gender non
binary or actually trans or whatever, that is where we are.
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I bring this up well for a lot of reasons,
but it reminds me what we're talking about the last
hour with Vermont and this school system and competing against men,
and I would just say, you know, women having to
compete against men. They keep telling you that this isn't
the plan, and it absolutely is. They're lying to you.
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to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Come back
to Clay an Buck. We have Stephen Miller with us now,
former Senior Whitehouse Advisor and a man who knows policy
with legal and border and everything in between like the
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back of his hand. Stephen, thanks for joining us. Thank
you so much. Great to be here today. So we've
got Homeland Security Committee field hearing today going on down
in Texas. Democrats, as I understand it, have pulled out
of this at the last minute, and they're saying, for example,
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this is Representative Mark Greene who talked about how there's
an app where you, if you're an illegal who comes
into America right now, you fill out the app and
you get parole as soon as you fill it out.
Play it. Why would Secretary Maiarchus want to do away
with the judiciary, Why would he want to subvert laws
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written by this body, the Congress. It's because they want
more people to come into the country. And now their
solution is an app where whomever fills it out just
automatically gets parole when they show up at the crossing site.
That is in total contravention to what the laws passed
by Congress about how people are to enter this country.
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I can see it now, some drug cartel coyote. Hey,
for an additional fee, we'll fill the app out for you.
Is there really an app for that, Stephen, There most
certainly is, And Chairman green explained it correctly when you
said this whole administration is objective is to get as
many people into the country as possible. Is that simple
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as that straightforward. Anybody who's been following this for two
years understands that in twenty twenty it was the policy
of the Trump administration. And I know because I implemented
that policy to detain and deport all legal border crossers.
So we would meet on a regular basis with the
whole management structure of CBP, Border Patrol and ICE to
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reiterate this over and over and over again. If you
apprehend it legal immigrant, you use every single available policy
tool at your disposal. Under no circumstances are they allowed
to leave a detained setting to be able to walk
freely on US soil. And so we saw as a result,
record low numbers in twenty twenty. Biden comes in in
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twenty twenty one and he changes the policy from detained
the port to catch and release. And it's not even
just released, it's recubtle. I mean, you see people, as
we all know, particularly on a company of minors, being
flown to the destination of their choice in the United States.
So the government is resettling legal immigrants in the country.
This new application is a way of expoting that process
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so you can be an intending legal immigrant. You can
go onto the smartphone application. By the way, the fact
that you have a smartphone also demonstrates that you're definitely
not in the kinds of dire straits that are often
for trade. You fill out the application and you show
up at a port of entry and you get admitted
into the United States of America to live the rest
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of your life here. And these are overwhelmingly going to
be individuals who do not have a high school education
or the equivalent of one in the United States. They
do not have the kinds of professional skills that are
going to make them financially self sufficient. So it's going
to be an incredible burden on the US taxpayer, who's
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going to have have to to subsidize free housing, free education, free welfare,
free food, and so on and so forth for decades
to come. Stephen, you know the latest from Border Patrol
Chief Raoul or Tease earlier this morning, and his testimony
is that there have been approximately three hundred and eighty
five thousand known gotaways, not to include unknown goataways. There's
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a lot of those two since the fiscal year in
October of twenty twenty three, so we're looking at approximately
This is according to Border Biden's Border Patrol Chief says
that there are one point four million gataways since the
start of fiscal year twenty one. One point four million.
That's not including as we know, the whatever it is
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now six or seven million who have just come into
the country and gained the systems who are choosing to
just let everyone know in this audience, because you know
these numbers, you know this reality, who are the people
who are choosing to be goataways when they could just
otherwise surrender, right, I mean there's something going on here. Yeah, well,
very much so. And so the hearing had a lot
of explosive revelations and I did watch the hearing and
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this entirety today and that was indeed one of them.
So the number of Godaways, of course, can we only
measure what we call known godaways, And as you mentioned,
almost four hundred thousand just in this fiscal year alone.
And there's this other number that I would estimate personally
is at least as many as the known number of Godaways.
And these are the ones that you don't even know
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that they escaped, versus the ones that you can estimate
escaped because of drone footage and censored technology, footpaths, visual observation,
things of that nature. And so who are these people?
Why are they is aiding. So, as you mentioned, there
are an enormous number of people who are turn ins
or surrenders. This would include almost all family units are
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going to be turn ins. All minors in most cases
are going to be turnins because they get automatical settlement.
So people seventeen and younger, and then many nationalities but no,
there's no deportation to their home country are going to
be turning in as well too. So the gataways are
going to have among them two groups. Primarily one which
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is pretty straightforward, are going to be Mexican nationals, just
because for them it's a zero cost proposition. You know,
you run away, you get caught, you get sent back,
you try again, so you just you keep trying till
you get in. And then the other group, though, is
going to be, which will of course include some Mexican nationals,
are going to be people who have criminal records, whether
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in their home countries or in the United States, who
have multiple previous deportations, which although idently this administration would
apply it which can trigger a felony prosecution, are going
to be of course a huge category here. Are going
to be actively smuggling, are transporting narcotics or contrabant into
the United States, and then of course sex trafficking and
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labor trafficking and things of that nature. So you have
within that group an enormous amount of criminal activity. And
that now was all inside of the United States and
every state and every city all throughout the country. There's
being the Stephen Miller, former senior adviser to President Donald Trump. Stephen,
you may have seen this as well, that the DA now,
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according to reporting by Fox News, DA is aware that
there are Mexican pharmacies that are selling pills that are
laced with fentanyl. So now it's we've known for a
while that the cartels will try to press pills to
look like pharmaceutical grade pills and then people overdose and
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there's no quality control and the whole thing is a
disaster for the American people. But Mexican pharmacies are selling
this stuff, and of course it's getting across the border
to us. What can we do about this? Well, and
of course they are because the cartels have operational control
of Va slass of territory, and if you don't go
along with their program, you're going to be killed. So
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if they want pharmacies to manufacture this drug and just
shribute in the United States, and that's exactly what's going
to happen. What you do, of course, is exactly what
we did do in twenty twenty. And then what President
Trump is further proposed doing, which obviously is you need
to treat the cartels as a as an unlawful enemy
combatant with all that that entails. And then you also
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need the United States Navy to blockade the seas where
the drugs are being transported into Mexico from areas further
to the south, including of course South America, and the
the United States Border Patrol needs to have a policy
of one hundred percent deportation and we're applicable one hundred
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percent prosecution. And so you have the place completely sealed
up but between ports of entry, and then you have
the military engaging with the cartels to do what we
need to be done in terms of kinetic activity. And
at the end of the day, we just have to
realize that there's not a single foreign threat on the
face of the earth. That comes even close to these
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cartels in terms of the loss of American life. No one,
No one even approaches that, no one even gets close.
And yet the United States military is engaged in nation
building activities and purportedly peacekeeping activities all throughout the planet,
and our southern border is where the greatest threat m
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and as a lies that it is untouched. In fact,
it is actively aided by this administration. Stephen, how can
we address the issue of the asylum claims that are
being made aid and the open door that that has created.
What would be you know, what is within statute or
within the executive branches discretion. We know Biden's not going
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to do this right. This is more of a look
toward twenty twenty four when maybe there'll be an administration
hopefully that will decide to do something about this. But
how can the false asylum loophole be closed? It's actually
a very straightforward to do so. One of the common
misconceptions that people have, and that is repeated out of
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an item by many, is that anyone who enters the
country illegally has a quote right to make an asylum
claim and then to be released if that claim is
deemed to be plausible or credible in some way that
is not true. In fact, there are multiple tools that
already exist in federal law that would invalidate those claims.
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The one of those, of course, is Title forty two,
which was eared and implemented by the Trump administration and
invalidated hundreds of thousands of asylum claims. Right, that's a
pandemic authority rights, that's the CDC pandemic. You can't come
in here authority, right. And so that authority is a
is a particularly broad grant of executive authority. Then, so
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we use that. For example, Title forty two, we use
that to solve the problem with unaccompanied minors. So when
we would get a minor from say or say fifteen
or sixteen minor sixteen, seventeen years old from Haiti that
under the current administration would be sent to HHS Helping
Human Services and then relocated wherever they want to go,
be it, you know, New York, Cincinnati, Los Angeles, what
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have you. We would call the local government in Haiti
and we say, get your social workers ready, we've got
a plane coming in tomorrow. We seventeen minors, and we
would use Title forty two to do that and it
would work quite seamlessly, and the numbers dropped almost nothing.
Then you have what's called safe third agreements, which in
statute it says, and it's there in black and white,
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that one of the categorical bars to asylum eligibility is
if another country is willing to take you. So you
could even be eligible for asylum, like fully eligible and
even then, but by any definition. So you could be
somebody who has a rock solid claim which of course
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you basically never see you on the southern border, but
just hypothetically, and you still wouldn't be able to get
asylum in the United States because another countries agreed to
take you. So when we left the White House in
twenty twenty, we had to save third agreements with all
three Northern Triangle countries El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, and
so anyone who applied for asylum, we could just say
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to them, your claim is not receivable in the United States.
You can choose to withdraw it and go home, or
you can choose to be flown to Honduras or Guatemala
or El Salvador and you can apply for asylum in
one of those countries. Because I think to remember of
asylum is that the whole premise of it that you're
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being politically persecuted in your home country. It's not an
escape hatch from violence or from poverty if half the
world is living in one of those two conditions or
both at a given moment in time. So if you
are asking for asylum, all that means is you want
to go somewhere where you're not going to be politically persecuted.
So if you've invented some fantastical pale of political persecution
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in Haiti, that it's okay. Great, Well, whoever's persecuting you
in Haiti, I'm sure doesn't live in Guatemala. So by
all means, go there. And that is a complete solution
to the asylum frauda issue. So I would just say
that in twenty twenty five, number one, you put in
place a robust network of safe third or groom's all
over the country, and then you get Congress to a
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men Title forty two to be a catchall authority for
border management and not just tied to public health. Steven,
though everybody, the guy knows the border backwards and forwards
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be wary when the left is making an argument along
the lines of why are you making such a big
deal of it? Why are you so focused on this?
You're obsessed with this. It doesn't happen that often. We're
not pushing this. This tells us more about you than
it does about orige. And I think any version of
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that it's just gaslighting, which is very common these days,
and they're doing it on a range of issues, but
the place where you'll see it, I think in the
most obvious, the most obvious cases would be on issues
of gender what they're now calling gender quality or the
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transgender agenda. Right. So we have up in Vermont, and
I always say this, Vermont is for me a place
that we should have seen this coming and should have
done something to keep well to prevent Vermont from becoming
the left wing haven in New England. That it is
(30:24):
a lot of people from New York, New Jersey and
Connecticut who had very leftist tendencies, figured well, you know,
I can get more land and cheaper, cheaper cost of living, etc.
Moved to Vermont. So you know Bernie Sanders for example,
like Brooklyn New Yorker who moved to and now as
a senator from Vermont. It's a beautiful state. I love it.
(30:45):
I used to spend summers there. I used to go
to camp in Vermont, so I think Vermont's lovely. Well
in the summers, at least. I've never been in the winter.
I'm not a skier, so it's not as appealing to me.
But Vermont has a situation unfolding the mid Vermont Christian School.
A few weeks ago, it's high school basketball team forfeited
(31:09):
a playoff game. You all know where this is going.
The Christian school mid Vermont Christian School forfeited the playoff
game because the opposing team had a transgender player, as
in a teenage you know, an adolescent male who wants
(31:30):
to play against women's basketball players or you know teenage
girl basketball players. I'm not sure if they're you know,
they could be eighteen, they could be sixteen. I think
it's they're varsity, they're probably older anyway, so we'll say
roughly sixteen to eighteen years of age is what we're
talking about here. And by the way, any of you
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who have who well I was gonna say who have kids,
but just anybody who has has eyes knows that by
the time boys get to thirteen fourteen years old and
Huberty hits their strength, speed, musculature, everything is very different
from girls. Right. So it's you know, at earlier ages
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the differences are still pronounced, but are not, you know,
super pronounced, and then they get into their teenage years
and all of a sudden, it's quite different. I mean,
as any guy who played high school sports knows. If
you then went to college and you know, scrimmaged on
like a co ed team and you came up against
you know, all American women in your sport, you realize
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men have a huge advantage over women, right even now,
I just mean in a recreational setting. So here's where
we are. The Mid Vermont Christian School said they would
not participate in this game, and now they have to
be punished. You see, this is heresy in the Democrats
stronghold of Vermont. You're not allowed, and this is they're saying,
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this is a violation of a gender discrimination So the school,
this Christian school, has had its affiliation in the athletic
League that it is in canceled. They say that the
mid Vermont Christian School violated the organization's policies against gender discrimination,
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and they say they're no longer able to be members
in this league. So this just goes to show you
how committed the left is to this. It's not enough. Remember,
they just forfeited, So they're not even taking action beyond saying, look,
we're just not going to play against a trends. We're
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not going to play against the team that has a
transgender student. Look, I'm a forty one year old man.
If I decided that I was actually an eighth grader
and that I wanted to play eighth grade basketball, I
would hope, I would hope that all of the parents
on that eighth grade basketball team that I was going
to play against would say, this is not fair, this
is crazy, and we're not going to allow it. We're
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not going to allow it. I mean, I remember I
used to make the argument many years ago that and
I'm talking about two thousand when I first started in radio,
so twelvesh twelve years ago, now maybe ten eleven years ago,
I said, what about transgender because this is when the
beginnings of the transgender athlete thing was becoming really really
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a debate. I said, what about combative sports? What about MMA?
And sure enough, within a short period after having these discussions,
and by the way, the left then they're gas letting.
Then was that'll never happen. Nobody will want to do that.
There's no transgender man who wants to fight against whom
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in the MMA. Actually there are, and in one case,
the individual just watching the fight between the biological man
and the women in the cave. I mean, it's horrific,
it's wrong, it's unethical, it's gross. And yet the left
they won't budge on this stuff. Their argument is crazy,
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so they're going to keep making crazy arguments. In fact,
they don't even really have an argument. What is the
argument here that there's gender discription, you have gender segregated sports,
but it's gender discrimination. To insist that the gender segregated
sports are actually segregated by gender. That is what is
happening in Vermont right now. The Vermont you know Athletic
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Association involved the State of Vermont, the Democrat apparatus there,
they're all in favor of punishing this team this. Of
course it's a Christian school too, which is great. That
gets extra extra points for slapping down a Christian school,
you know, that gets the left really excited, godless commies.
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So you look at this, you say, what exactly are
the rules? I mean, I'm just wondering. And the State
of Vermont right now, and the you know, looking at that,
the Vermont I'm trying to find the name of this, uh,
this entity that is banning them whatever, But the VPA
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Vermont Public Athletic Association, I guess I don't know, something
like that. The Vermont Principles Association, the Vermont Principles Association, UM.
Their official policy is that if you live in the
state of Vermont and and an eighteen year old boy
wants to play basketball against your eighteen year old daughter,
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if she has a problem with that, she better shut up.
And if she gets an elbow into the face from this,
you know, from this guy and his you know, swinging
his elbows around, he's got it, you know. The probably
a little bit of a beard growing, that's her problem.
You notice they always try to make this about kindness,
but actually what they're doing is trying to rely on
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the desire that people who are traditional in their view
of gender to be kind so that the people on
the left can do vicious things. This is wrong, this
is absurd. It's also a slap in the face to
women's athletics. What is the point of this, right, What
is the rationale behind it? Exactly as you know, it's
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the eradication of gender, and even more than that, it
is to force you to bend the knee to insanity.
If they can make you affirm obvious lies, they can
make you believe and affirm anything they own you psychologically,
if they can make you say, hey, there's no problem here.
So it's an eighteen year old guy that decided he
was a woman, I don't know a few months ago,
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and he wants to play against women's basketball. This is great,
this is progress. And by the way, there are a
lot of Democrat parents who go along with this. A
lot of Biden voters go along with this because that
is what the herd demands of them. But yeah, up
in Vermont right now, that's what you're up against. We're
also going to talk in the third hour. By the way,
about Wellesley College, it's a women's college, but is it though?
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Is there a women's because the students there wanted to
be open to not only transgender women, but non binary individuals,
which I feel like that leaves a lot of it's
a lot of open territories. And we'll talk we'll talk
about this. We'll talk about this. Oh yes, Oh. And
also Lindsey Graham had some thoughts on what we should
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We have we have an actual drone pilot, Bruce in
New Mexico, Bruce talk to us. Hey, y'all, Yeah, is
the MQ one in Q nine? SMEE at the PENTAGONUS
SMEE being somepretty bad expert for four years. What can
I tell you about the m Q nine that would help?
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How could they have brought this thing? I mean, I
hope you heard the conversation with the F four pilot.
How could they have brought this thing down? Well, it's there.
They're very fragile, to tell you the truth. And they
didn't that way specifically to be light and be able
to go airborne. The MQ nine, I don't know which
version they had, but you know, a full twenty four
(41:52):
hours worse if they're not carrying any ordinance on it
and just a bunch of gas. Normally we did in
Q nines around eighteen hours, in Q Nuance about twenty
twenty one hours. But they're light, they're fragile, and you
could clip a wing and do some damage. You could
get in front of it and cause enough turbulence to
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actually break walk with the satellites and send it into us.
Really it's possible. And if if they if he was
if they were just stupid and they clipped the prop
with their radar dome, which they may have done, it
would have shattered the fiberglass prop. Do you do you think,
by the way that I mean asking now for the
(42:36):
manned side of the aerial equation and the expertise you
can give us on this one. Do you think that
the Pentagon is planning to do massive training and then
or you know, a training program and then deployment of
American planes not manned by US, obviously by Ukrainian pilots.
But is that going to get introduced into this theater
(42:58):
or warfare? Do you think in the future. You know,
that's that's a really good question. I think it would
be rather silly if we want to give them the
hardware and let them do it. Okay, fine. The other
thing I wanted to say was, Lindsay Graham needs to
check himself before he recks all of us. That was
(43:20):
a piece of fiberglass that we sent up and one
of the reasons we like it so much is because
there's not a little pink but sitting in the seat
of back, Yeah, it's a different I mean, we all
can recognize it's a different thing to shoot. Yeah, it's expensive,
but Uncle Sam's got pretty deep pockets. To bring a
drone down is a very different thing than shooting a
(43:40):
pilot out of the sky and having his family given
a folded flag, right. I mean we all Russian, American,
anybody would understand that. So I don't know. I don't
know why people listen to Lindsay Graham on this stuff.
I mean, he's a senator and he's been in the
game a long time. Thank you for calling in, Bruce
from New Mexico. I appreciate it. We had to look
at this is what I always love. I can sit
here this audience, it is amazing. I can crowdsource, particularly
(44:03):
on firearms history, anything military related. I can crowdsource the
most specific question imaginable and I'll get an answer. I
could ask somebody, hey, if the third widget from the
left on the rotor of a of a Blackhawk helicopter
has come a little bit loose, what can I use
in my toolbox? I will have like a nightstalker mechanic
(44:27):
calling in within within five minutes telling me exactly how
to fix. It's amazing we can bring to bear on
this show. Um, anyway, we've got call. I mean, we
got some emails into I wanted to get to let's
see this one. This is instant some andy. It goes
to the Trump discantists throwdown, which is it's underway, folks,
(44:49):
it's happening now right. We didn't want to get ahead
of ourselves, but you know there's there's friendly fire getting
thrown around here. That's that's what's going on. I Clay
and Buck and we better. I suppose if the Donald
may nice and acted a bit more civil toward Dessantis.
But don't hold your breath. President Trump, for all his
brilliance and common sense, though he showed terrible judgment with
(45:11):
some of his picks, the people he picked. We're living
through a very crass and vulgar age in America. And
who is the crass vulgarian with the common touch, of course,
the man of the hour, sent by the Lord. Some say,
I personally am sitting on the fifty yard line on this,
though I have voted for him twice and will again
a third time. Though somewhat leary, he leaves Versailles on
(45:33):
the Atlantic to give a rally to the trailer park
in Alabama to people that are holding on to being
middle class? Is this what politics is? So? You know,
he says Donald is right in the war in Ukraine, etc. Etc.
Thank you best. Andy. Look, you know people are gonna
(45:53):
get this is gonna be a very passionate debate, and
people feel very strongly about it. People reaching out to
me on both sides. And it's interesting because every the
people that I know who want to Scantists to win
this primary are all overwhelmingly saying things like, I voted
for Trump twice. I respect him so much, I like
(46:14):
him so much. The Trump people who now when I
say Trump people, I'll vote for Trump obviously if he's
a nominee. Any Republican shop vote for Trump if he's
a nominee. We're just talking about primaries right now. But
people who have already said they're all in on Trump,
they don't say Desantist is a clown, I don't like um,
he's a no, no no. They say he's a very
good governor. His time will come. So it's really interesting
(46:35):
because you're gonna see this huge fight, but both sides
respect the primary combatant that is the choice of the
other side. I feel like that's that's uncommon. I'm really
seeing this a lot. You know, the people that are
the most ardent Trump primary voters to be Obviously it
hasn't happened yet. They all tell me they think Desantist
(46:58):
has done an amazing job in Florida and he's you know,
he's deserves a lot of credit and his day will come.
That's what That's what I'm hearing. I mean, not from
absolutely everybody, but ninety five percent and all the descent
is people you know, are saying Trump is amazing. He
built this movement. But we think because of his age,
YadA YadA, it could be very interesting to see where
(47:18):
this all plays out and where it goes. And we're
excited to be a part of that conversation with all
of you. Thanks for hanging out with us. Talk to
you tomorrow.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of Clay in Bucks
starts right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us.
Clay on vacation in Italy. I believe he's in Roma
right now, so our thoughts are with him and his
family as they are eating some delicious pizza, which we,
(00:24):
of course in this country call pizza and uh yeah,
he's having a good time. So we have some updates
here on the financial financial front for you just to
keep an eye on all this, because the biggest story
in the country, and in fact the biggest story in
the world right now, is the oh rickety unsecure, swaying
(00:50):
back and forth structure of our banks at this point
in time, right it's not looking good. It's not looking
like this is going to head into a healthy direction.
I thought it was interesting Kevin O'Leary of Shark Tank,
we played some sound bites from him yesterday. I know
(01:10):
he was on Sean Show last night and Kevin O'Leary
had billions of his of dollars of companies he's involved
with in Silicon Valley Bank. But to his credit, he's like, look, yeah,
I got money there. I got money all over the place.
A lot of people have been hit by this. When
you're talking about two hundred billion dollars of deposits that
(01:31):
covers a broad swath of territory. I mentioned to you
the massive Swiss bank credit Suits, which is pleading now
with the Swiss Central Bank for support. Shares of credit
Suits have gone down thirty percent. Also Moody's and the
(01:52):
SMP jumping in with different cuts to the status downgrades
I should say, to the status of bonds of some
of these banks. First Republic Bank for example now at
junks status and the big four banks are in a
difficult spot for right now. Not not a perilous spot,
(02:13):
but there there's stocks a little bit down today. Let's
I don't want to overstate anything here, but the stocks
are the people are worried. Obviously, people are concerned, and
I think what you're really going to have to look
for is the rate hike going up, the hiking rates
the next time around. If they do that, I think
(02:35):
you got to assume we're heading into a recession. Probably.
If they don't do that, well, then we're just gonna
keep having inflation continue to eat away at your savings
and make everything more expensive, and there is no good
option here, and that actually makes sense. And I think
that's the part of this that's so hard. This is
(02:57):
the cause and effect portion of our monetary policy and
our national financial reality, that if you spend too much money,
you will create inflation. And then if you spend too
much money and try to bring inflation down by bringing
interest rates up, you will have a reduction in the
(03:18):
money supply and economic activity and a likely recession. They
keep saying, well, if we do it the right way,
if we just do it just enough, it's going to
be perfect. There are a lot of assumptions built into that.
And I think given that we just saw a bank
run and some bank failures that seemingly came out of nowhere,
they didn't. Of course, they were growing for a long time,
(03:40):
but we certainly weren't hearing about it. You got to
be prepared for what they say, expect the unexpected in
the financial world, or Rumsfeldian unknown unknowns. Rumsfeld was quite
a character back in this day, very smart, very impressive guy.
Rack War didn't turn out the way it was posted,
(04:00):
but Rumswell was an interesting fellow. Now I'd mentioned to
you switching gears here. I just want to keep I'm
keeping an eye on the financial realities, and I'm also
reaching out. I mean, I've got We've got a couple
of We've got a couple of MBAs in my family.
We got a banker in my family. I mean, I
got a lot of people that I can tap for
(04:20):
their knowledge of how these systems work. And then all
what I was graduating from college, the two jobs that
everybody went into, at least out of my school. I
went to Amherst up in Massachusetts, which, yes, is one
of these places that has woke and has completely lost
its mind if it ever had a mind to lose
(04:41):
even when I was there. But Amherst and many other schools,
everybody went into investment banking or management consulting. That was
I went into the CIA different path, But investment banking,
management consulting, those are the two things that people wanted
to do. And I do think that a lot of
(05:02):
that world has changed dramatically in the past twenty years
such that well, anyway, I try to encourage people to
do things that they at least would like to do.
You want to find that sweet spot for anyone who's
listening who's still figuring out what their career might be,
or if you've got kids who are going to be
thinking about this soon. You want to find something that
(05:23):
you are both interested in. Not that you it's a job, right,
it's not. You're not going to pay to get a BackRub.
There's gonna be work, there's gonna be frustration, there's gonna
be time, there's gonna be a lot of stuff you
have to give to it. But something you are interested
in and that you can be compensated enough for your
(05:44):
lifestyle choice. That's what I try to tell people. So
you have to be you have to be willing to
do it a lot and grow your skill set within it,
which requires interest. Otherwise you're just going to burn out
and lose your mind and be miserable, and nobody wants that.
But you also want to make sure you know, you
know what the upside of it could be financially. Now,
(06:06):
that does not everybody has to be a banker or
investment banker trying to be a millionaire. Obviously people are
finding out maybe we have too many of those anyway.
But you know, if you're if you're gonna be a
if you're gonna be a guidance counselor you're not gonna
make a million dollars a year, which is fine, but
you just got to know these things when you go
into it, right, you've got to understand what role you're taking. Anyway,
(06:27):
speaking of colleges, Wellesley College, Wellesley College, Hillary Clinton's Almamont,
I'm trying to think who else, who else? There's all
these schools that famous people who didn't matel did mattel
An Albright go to Wellesley? I want to say that's
maybe I'm just making that up. I'm just going by
memory here, folks three hours Alive Radio. You got to
(06:48):
come up with a lot of stuff on the fly.
But Wellesley College is in the midst of a very
interesting debate. It's a women's college, right, very straightforward. You
could only go there if you're a woman. I went
to college down the street from down the street, roughly
(07:08):
speaking a few maybe you know, seven miles and twelve
miles respectively or something away from Smith and Holio Colleges,
which are also women's colleges. I believe they're called the
Seven Sister Schools, but that that maybe I may be
mixing some of them up. So Wellesley has a problem
(07:30):
on a chance because women who make up the student body.
Oh by the way, I'm right, yeah, Madeline Albright team,
did you already know that I nailed that one. I
don't know why I second guessed myself when it comes
to random trivia on the fly, I'm pretty solid. So
Wellesley College has had a referendum. It is non binding,
(07:52):
but students have called for the women's college to be
open to all non binary and trans gender applicants, including
trans men. So you are now going to have, assuming
the university or the college in this case allows this,
(08:14):
you're going to have biological males attending a women's college.
Now I do wonder what the realm, what the rules
and regulations for this are going to be, Like, how
would they even judge? As they say, it's if you
(08:35):
have been there some verbiage in here that says if
you live your life as a woman, then you qualify basically,
oh sorry, consistently identify as a woman is the term
of art I think they have used here. But the
the president, Paula Johnson, is getting some pushbacks. She says
(08:58):
that Wellesley was found that the then radical idea that
educating women of all social economic backgrounds leads to progress
for everyone. As a college and community, we continue to
challenge the norms and power structures that too often leave
women and others of marginalized identities behind. The students entirely disagree.
They are all freaking out, and they are saying that
(09:23):
we need to include trans men, right trans trans or
no trans women, sorry trans women. Men who are now
identifying as women. You know, I got just tell you
if I were a woman, and I'm not and I
do not identify as one, if I were a woman,
I would find this all so offensive, honestly, And I
(09:47):
guess at some level for men, the notion that a man,
that a trans man would be able to sit down
across from me and give me a lecture on manhood
that I would listen to, that I would. I would
want to hear her lived experience about being a man
(10:07):
for I don't know, six months, three months, whatever it is,
as women have been subjected to as you've seen recently.
I mean, there's this video that's circularly everywhere of Drew Barrymore,
who has a daytime TV show which I I didn't
know it was possible to have a lower IQ show
than the view. But there is a Drew Barrymore daytime
TV show, and and she's kneeling and hugging the transwoman
(10:32):
who went to the White House and Biden sat down
with and the trans woman who was lecturing women on womanhood. Basically,
you're saying, you know this is let me tell you
all about my womanhood as a guy. It's just this.
Every guy, every guy that I know, without exception, would
(10:53):
just think it was absurd, to the point if they wouldn't,
it wouldn't even connect. They wouldn't even pay attention. If
a transgender man, a biological female sat down, you know,
cut her hair short, wara were like a you know,
a plaid shirt. You know it's a little big, and
started telling the guys about what it is to be
(11:13):
a man. Look, if people want to dress however, they
want to cut their hair, that's all fine, no problem
with that, of course. But the notion that we're supposed
to see the superficialities of style choice as somehow indicative
of the innate and immutable characteristic of one's gender, what
sex you are, is crazy. You can sit any woman
(11:37):
in the world down across from a man and doesn't
matter what she identifies as the guy is going to
sit there and be like, I'm I'm not listening to Well,
a normal man of reasonable mind and testosterone levels would
sit there and say, I'm not going to listen to this.
But women are being told now that it's almost as
though they have something to learn from the trans women
(12:01):
who have been women for like a few minutes or
a few months or whatever. I just find it. I
find it on behalf of women. I wanted to be offended.
I guess I can't do that because I'm not a woman,
but I would find it just so. Oh so someone
speaks in a high sort of a high voice, grows
their hair long, maybe has breast implants put in, and
(12:23):
puts a lot of makeup on their face, and now
they understand what it is to be a woman. That's
because they say, so, this is where we are. I
would be fascinated to be in these Wellesley classrooms where
these trans male students are being or I think they're
already being admitted. I can't even keep up. I think
if you're like nonsis gender, it's the stuff is difficult,
(12:47):
I know, or you speak in circles about it because
it runs in circles. The whole thing is absurd. But yes,
we are at the stage now where women's colleges are
admitting men under the idea that they're actually women. And
this is what is happening. Whether it's official at Wellesley
yet or not, or whether it's just this gender non
binary or actually trans or whatever, that is where we are.
(13:11):
I bring this up well for a lot of reasons,
but it reminds me what we're talking about the last
hour with Vermont and this school system and competing against men,
and I would just say, you know, women having to
compete against men. They keep telling you that this isn't
the plan, and it absolutely is. They're lying to you.
(13:33):
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(15:03):
back of his hand. Stephen, thanks for joining us. Thank
you so much. Great to be here today. So we've
got Homeland Security Committee field hearing today going on down
in Texas. Democrats, as I understand it, have pulled out
of this at the last minute, and they're saying, for example,
(15:23):
this is Representative Mark Greene who talked about how there's
an app where you, if you're an illegal who comes
into America right now, you fill out the app and
you get parole as soon as you fill it out.
Play it. Why would Secretary Maiarchus want to do away
with the judiciary, Why would he want to subvert laws
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written by this body, the Congress. It's because they want
more people to come into the country. And now their
solution is an app where whomever fills it out just
automatically gets parole when they show up at the crossing site.
That is in total contravention to what the laws passed
by Congress about how people are to enter this country.
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I can see it now, some drug cartel coyote. Hey,
for an additional fee, we'll fill the app out for you.
Is there really an app for that, Stephen, There most
certainly is, And Chairman green explained it correctly when you
said this whole administration is objective is to get as
many people into the country as possible. Is that simple
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as that straightforward. Anybody who's been following this for two
years understands that in twenty twenty it was the policy
of the Trump administration. And I know because I implemented
that policy to detain and deport all legal border crossers.
So we would meet on a regular basis with the
whole management structure of CBP, Border Patrol and ICE to
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reiterate this over and over and over again. If you
apprehend it legal immigrant, you use every single available policy
tool at your disposal. Under no circumstances are they allowed
to leave a detained setting to be able to walk
freely on US soil. And so we saw as a result,
record low numbers in twenty twenty. Biden comes in in
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twenty twenty one and he changes the policy from detained
the port to catch and release. And it's not even
just released, it's recubtle. I mean, you see people, as
we all know, particularly on a company of minors, being
flown to the destination of their choice in the United States.
So the government is resettling legal immigrants in the country.
This new application is a way of expoting that process
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so you can be an intending legal immigrant. You can
go onto the smartphone application. By the way, the fact
that you have a smartphone also demonstrates that you're definitely
not in the kinds of dire straits that are often
for trade. You fill out the application and you show
up at a port of entry and you get admitted
into the United States of America to live the rest
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of your life here. And these are overwhelmingly going to
be individuals who do not have a high school education
or the equivalent of one in the United States. They
do not have the kinds of professional skills that are
going to make them financially self sufficient. So it's going
to be an incredible burden on the US taxpayer, who's
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going to have have to to subsidize free housing, free education, free welfare,
free food, and so on and so forth for decades
to come. Stephen, you know the latest from Border Patrol
Chief Raoul or Tease earlier this morning, and his testimony
is that there have been approximately three hundred and eighty
five thousand known gotaways, not to include unknown goataways. There's
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a lot of those two since the fiscal year in
October of twenty twenty three, so we're looking at approximately
This is according to Border Biden's Border Patrol Chief says
that there are one point four million gataways since the
start of fiscal year twenty one. One point four million.
That's not including as we know, the whatever it is
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now six or seven million who have just come into
the country and gained the systems who are choosing to
just let everyone know in this audience, because you know
these numbers, you know this reality, who are the people
who are choosing to be goataways when they could just
otherwise surrender, right, I mean there's something going on here. Yeah, well,
very much so. And so the hearing had a lot
of explosive revelations and I did watch the hearing and
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this entirety today and that was indeed one of them.
So the number of Godaways, of course, can we only
measure what we call known godaways, And as you mentioned,
almost four hundred thousand just in this fiscal year alone.
And there's this other number that I would estimate personally
is at least as many as the known number of Godaways.
And these are the ones that you don't even know
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that they escaped, versus the ones that you can estimate
escaped because of drone footage and censored technology, footpaths, visual observation,
things of that nature. And so who are these people?
Why are they is aiding. So, as you mentioned, there
are an enormous number of people who are turn ins
or surrenders. This would include almost all family units are
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going to be turn ins. All minors in most cases
are going to be turnins because they get automatical settlement.
So people seventeen and younger, and then many nationalities but no,
there's no deportation to their home country are going to
be turning in as well too. So the gataways are
going to have among them two groups. Primarily one which
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is pretty straightforward, are going to be Mexican nationals, just
because for them it's a zero cost proposition. You know,
you run away, you get caught, you get sent back,
you try again, so you just you keep trying till
you get in. And then the other group, though, is
going to be, which will of course include some Mexican nationals,
are going to be people who have criminal records, whether
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in their home countries or in the United States, who
have multiple previous deportations, which although idently this administration would
apply it which can trigger a felony prosecution, are going
to be of course a huge category here. Are going
to be actively smuggling, are transporting narcotics or contrabant into
the United States, and then of course sex trafficking and
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labor trafficking and things of that nature. So you have
within that group an enormous amount of criminal activity. And
that now was all inside of the United States and
every state and every city all throughout the country. There's
being the Stephen Miller, former senior adviser to President Donald Trump. Stephen,
you may have seen this as well, that the DA now,
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according to reporting by Fox News, DA is aware that
there are Mexican pharmacies that are selling pills that are
laced with fentanyl. So now it's we've known for a
while that the cartels will try to press pills to
look like pharmaceutical grade pills and then people overdose and
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there's no quality control and the whole thing is a
disaster for the American people. But Mexican pharmacies are selling
this stuff, and of course it's getting across the border
to us. What can we do about this? Well, and
of course they are because the cartels have operational control
of Va slass of territory, and if you don't go
along with their program, you're going to be killed. So
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if they want pharmacies to manufacture this drug and just
shribute in the United States, and that's exactly what's going
to happen. What you do, of course, is exactly what
we did do in twenty twenty. And then what President
Trump is further proposed doing, which obviously is you need
to treat the cartels as a as an unlawful enemy
combatant with all that that entails. And then you also
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need the United States Navy to blockade the seas where
the drugs are being transported into Mexico from areas further
to the south, including of course South America, and the
the United States Border Patrol needs to have a policy
of one hundred percent deportation and we're applicable one hundred
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percent prosecution. And so you have the place completely sealed
up but between ports of entry, and then you have
the military engaging with the cartels to do what we
need to be done in terms of kinetic activity. And
at the end of the day, we just have to
realize that there's not a single foreign threat on the
face of the earth. That comes even close to these
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cartels in terms of the loss of American life. No one,
No one even approaches that, no one even gets close.
And yet the United States military is engaged in nation
building activities and purportedly peacekeeping activities all throughout the planet,
and our southern border is where the greatest threat m
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and as a lies that it is untouched. In fact,
it is actively aided by this administration. Stephen, how can
we address the issue of the asylum claims that are
being made aid and the open door that that has created.
What would be you know, what is within statute or
within the executive branches discretion. We know Biden's not going
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to do this right. This is more of a look
toward twenty twenty four when maybe there'll be an administration
hopefully that will decide to do something about this. But
how can the false asylum loophole be closed? It's actually
a very straightforward to do so. One of the common
misconceptions that people have, and that is repeated out of
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an item by many, is that anyone who enters the
country illegally has a quote right to make an asylum
claim and then to be released if that claim is
deemed to be plausible or credible in some way that
is not true. In fact, there are multiple tools that
already exist in federal law that would invalidate those claims.
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The one of those, of course, is Title forty two,
which was eared and implemented by the Trump administration and
invalidated hundreds of thousands of asylum claims. Right, that's a
pandemic authority rights, that's the CDC pandemic. You can't come
in here authority, right. And so that authority is a
is a particularly broad grant of executive authority. Then, so
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we use that. For example, Title forty two, we use
that to solve the problem with unaccompanied minors. So when
we would get a minor from say or say fifteen
or sixteen minor sixteen, seventeen years old from Haiti that
under the current administration would be sent to HHS Helping
Human Services and then relocated wherever they want to go,
be it, you know, New York, Cincinnati, Los Angeles, what
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have you. We would call the local government in Haiti
and we say, get your social workers ready, we've got
a plane coming in tomorrow. We seventeen minors, and we
would use Title forty two to do that and it
would work quite seamlessly, and the numbers dropped almost nothing.
Then you have what's called safe third agreements, which in
statute it says, and it's there in black and white,
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that one of the categorical bars to asylum eligibility is
if another country is willing to take you. So you
could even be eligible for asylum, like fully eligible and
even then, but by any definition. So you could be
somebody who has a rock solid claim which of course
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you basically never see you on the southern border, but
just hypothetically, and you still wouldn't be able to get
asylum in the United States because another countries agreed to
take you. So when we left the White House in
twenty twenty, we had to save third agreements with all
three Northern Triangle countries El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, and
so anyone who applied for asylum, we could just say
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to them, your claim is not receivable in the United States.
You can choose to withdraw it and go home, or
you can choose to be flown to Honduras or Guatemala
or El Salvador and you can apply for asylum in
one of those countries. Because I think to remember of
asylum is that the whole premise of it that you're
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being politically persecuted in your home country. It's not an
escape hatch from violence or from poverty if half the
world is living in one of those two conditions or
both at a given moment in time. So if you
are asking for asylum, all that means is you want
to go somewhere where you're not going to be politically persecuted.
So if you've invented some fantastical pale of political persecution
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in Haiti, that it's okay. Great, Well, whoever's persecuting you
in Haiti, I'm sure doesn't live in Guatemala. So by
all means, go there. And that is a complete solution
to the asylum frauda issue. So I would just say
that in twenty twenty five, number one, you put in
place a robust network of safe third or groom's all
over the country, and then you get Congress to a
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be wary when the left is making an argument along
the lines of why are you making such a big
deal of it? Why are you so focused on this?
You're obsessed with this. It doesn't happen that often. We're
not pushing this. This tells us more about you than
it does about orige. And I think any version of
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that it's just gaslighting, which is very common these days,
and they're doing it on a range of issues, but
the place where you'll see it, I think in the
most obvious, the most obvious cases would be on issues
of gender what they're now calling gender quality or the
(30:02):
transgender agenda. Right. So we have up in Vermont, and
I always say this, Vermont is for me a place
that we should have seen this coming and should have
done something to keep well to prevent Vermont from becoming
the left wing haven in New England. That it is
(30:24):
a lot of people from New York, New Jersey and
Connecticut who had very leftist tendencies, figured well, you know,
I can get more land and cheaper, cheaper cost of living, etc.
Moved to Vermont. So you know Bernie Sanders for example,
like Brooklyn New Yorker who moved to and now as
a senator from Vermont. It's a beautiful state. I love it.
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I used to spend summers there. I used to go
to camp in Vermont, so I think Vermont's lovely. Well
in the summers, at least. I've never been in the winter.
I'm not a skier, so it's not as appealing to me.
But Vermont has a situation unfolding the mid Vermont Christian School.
A few weeks ago, it's high school basketball team forfeited
(31:09):
a playoff game. You all know where this is going.
The Christian school mid Vermont Christian School forfeited the playoff
game because the opposing team had a transgender player, as
in a teenage you know, an adolescent male who wants
(31:30):
to play against women's basketball players or you know teenage
girl basketball players. I'm not sure if they're you know,
they could be eighteen, they could be sixteen. I think
it's they're varsity, they're probably older anyway, so we'll say
roughly sixteen to eighteen years of age is what we're
talking about here. And by the way, any of you
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who have who well I was gonna say who have kids,
but just anybody who has has eyes knows that by
the time boys get to thirteen fourteen years old and
Huberty hits their strength, speed, musculature, everything is very different
from girls. Right. So it's you know, at earlier ages
(32:12):
the differences are still pronounced, but are not, you know,
super pronounced, and then they get into their teenage years
and all of a sudden, it's quite different. I mean,
as any guy who played high school sports knows. If
you then went to college and you know, scrimmaged on
like a co ed team and you came up against
you know, all American women in your sport, you realize
(32:35):
men have a huge advantage over women, right even now,
I just mean in a recreational setting. So here's where
we are. The Mid Vermont Christian School said they would
not participate in this game, and now they have to
be punished. You see, this is heresy in the Democrats
stronghold of Vermont. You're not allowed, and this is they're saying,
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this is a violation of a gender discrimination So the school,
this Christian school, has had its affiliation in the athletic
League that it is in canceled. They say that the
mid Vermont Christian School violated the organization's policies against gender discrimination,
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and they say they're no longer able to be members
in this league. So this just goes to show you
how committed the left is to this. It's not enough. Remember,
they just forfeited, So they're not even taking action beyond saying, look,
we're just not going to play against a trends. We're
(33:46):
not going to play against the team that has a
transgender student. Look, I'm a forty one year old man.
If I decided that I was actually an eighth grader
and that I wanted to play eighth grade basketball, I
would hope, I would hope that all of the parents
on that eighth grade basketball team that I was going
to play against would say, this is not fair, this
is crazy, and we're not going to allow it. We're
(34:09):
not going to allow it. I mean, I remember I
used to make the argument many years ago that and
I'm talking about two thousand when I first started in radio,
so twelvesh twelve years ago, now maybe ten eleven years ago,
I said, what about transgender because this is when the
beginnings of the transgender athlete thing was becoming really really
(34:29):
a debate. I said, what about combative sports? What about MMA?
And sure enough, within a short period after having these discussions,
and by the way, the left then they're gas letting.
Then was that'll never happen. Nobody will want to do that.
There's no transgender man who wants to fight against whom
(34:51):
in the MMA. Actually there are, and in one case,
the individual just watching the fight between the biological man
and the women in the cave. I mean, it's horrific,
it's wrong, it's unethical, it's gross. And yet the left
they won't budge on this stuff. Their argument is crazy,
(35:13):
so they're going to keep making crazy arguments. In fact,
they don't even really have an argument. What is the
argument here that there's gender discription, you have gender segregated sports,
but it's gender discrimination. To insist that the gender segregated
sports are actually segregated by gender. That is what is
happening in Vermont right now. The Vermont you know Athletic
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Association involved the State of Vermont, the Democrat apparatus there,
they're all in favor of punishing this team this. Of
course it's a Christian school too, which is great. That
gets extra extra points for slapping down a Christian school,
you know, that gets the left really excited, godless commies.
(35:58):
So you look at this, you say, what exactly are
the rules? I mean, I'm just wondering. And the State
of Vermont right now, and the you know, looking at that,
the Vermont I'm trying to find the name of this, uh,
this entity that is banning them whatever, But the VPA
(36:21):
Vermont Public Athletic Association, I guess I don't know, something
like that. The Vermont Principles Association, the Vermont Principles Association, UM.
Their official policy is that if you live in the
state of Vermont and and an eighteen year old boy
wants to play basketball against your eighteen year old daughter,
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if she has a problem with that, she better shut up.
And if she gets an elbow into the face from this,
you know, from this guy and his you know, swinging
his elbows around, he's got it, you know. The probably
a little bit of a beard growing, that's her problem.
You notice they always try to make this about kindness,
but actually what they're doing is trying to rely on
(37:04):
the desire that people who are traditional in their view
of gender to be kind so that the people on
the left can do vicious things. This is wrong, this
is absurd. It's also a slap in the face to
women's athletics. What is the point of this, right, What
is the rationale behind it? Exactly as you know, it's
(37:26):
the eradication of gender, and even more than that, it
is to force you to bend the knee to insanity.
If they can make you affirm obvious lies, they can
make you believe and affirm anything they own you psychologically,
if they can make you say, hey, there's no problem here.
So it's an eighteen year old guy that decided he
was a woman, I don't know a few months ago,
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and he wants to play against women's basketball. This is great,
this is progress. And by the way, there are a
lot of Democrat parents who go along with this. A
lot of Biden voters go along with this because that
is what the herd demands of them. But yeah, up
in Vermont right now, that's what you're up against. We're
also going to talk in the third hour. By the way,
about Wellesley College, it's a women's college, but is it though?
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Is there a women's because the students there wanted to
be open to not only transgender women, but non binary individuals,
which I feel like that leaves a lot of it's
a lot of open territories. And we'll talk we'll talk
about this. We'll talk about this. Oh yes, Oh. And
also Lindsey Graham had some thoughts on what we should
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We have we have an actual drone pilot, Bruce in
New Mexico, Bruce talk to us. Hey, y'all, Yeah, is
the MQ one in Q nine? SMEE at the PENTAGONUS
SMEE being somepretty bad expert for four years. What can
I tell you about the m Q nine that would help?
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How could they have brought this thing? I mean, I
hope you heard the conversation with the F four pilot.
How could they have brought this thing down? Well, it's there.
They're very fragile, to tell you the truth. And they
didn't that way specifically to be light and be able
to go airborne. The MQ nine, I don't know which
version they had, but you know, a full twenty four
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hours worse if they're not carrying any ordinance on it
and just a bunch of gas. Normally we did in
Q nines around eighteen hours, in Q Nuance about twenty
twenty one hours. But they're light, they're fragile, and you
could clip a wing and do some damage. You could
get in front of it and cause enough turbulence to
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actually break walk with the satellites and send it into us.
Really it's possible. And if if they if he was
if they were just stupid and they clipped the prop
with their radar dome, which they may have done, it
would have shattered the fiberglass prop. Do you do you think,
by the way that I mean asking now for the
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manned side of the aerial equation and the expertise you
can give us on this one. Do you think that
the Pentagon is planning to do massive training and then
or you know, a training program and then deployment of
American planes not manned by US, obviously by Ukrainian pilots.
But is that going to get introduced into this theater
(42:58):
or warfare? Do you think in the future. You know,
that's that's a really good question. I think it would
be rather silly if we want to give them the
hardware and let them do it. Okay, fine. The other
thing I wanted to say was, Lindsay Graham needs to
check himself before he recks all of us. That was
(43:20):
a piece of fiberglass that we sent up and one
of the reasons we like it so much is because
there's not a little pink but sitting in the seat
of back, Yeah, it's a different I mean, we all
can recognize it's a different thing to shoot. Yeah, it's expensive,
but Uncle Sam's got pretty deep pockets. To bring a
drone down is a very different thing than shooting a
(43:40):
pilot out of the sky and having his family given
a folded flag, right. I mean we all Russian, American,
anybody would understand that. So I don't know. I don't
know why people listen to Lindsay Graham on this stuff.
I mean, he's a senator and he's been in the
game a long time. Thank you for calling in, Bruce
from New Mexico. I appreciate it. We had to look
at this is what I always love. I can sit
here this audience, it is amazing. I can crowdsource, particularly
(44:03):
on firearms history, anything military related. I can crowdsource the
most specific question imaginable and I'll get an answer. I
could ask somebody, hey, if the third widget from the
left on the rotor of a of a Blackhawk helicopter
has come a little bit loose, what can I use
in my toolbox? I will have like a nightstalker mechanic
(44:27):
calling in within within five minutes telling me exactly how
to fix. It's amazing we can bring to bear on
this show. Um, anyway, we've got call. I mean, we
got some emails into I wanted to get to let's
see this one. This is instant some andy. It goes
to the Trump discantists throwdown, which is it's underway, folks,
(44:49):
it's happening now right. We didn't want to get ahead
of ourselves, but you know there's there's friendly fire getting
thrown around here. That's that's what's going on. I Clay
and Buck and we better. I suppose if the Donald
may nice and acted a bit more civil toward Dessantis.
But don't hold your breath. President Trump, for all his
brilliance and common sense, though he showed terrible judgment with
(45:11):
some of his picks, the people he picked. We're living
through a very crass and vulgar age in America. And
who is the crass vulgarian with the common touch, of course,
the man of the hour, sent by the Lord. Some say,
I personally am sitting on the fifty yard line on this,
though I have voted for him twice and will again
a third time. Though somewhat leary, he leaves Versailles on
(45:33):
the Atlantic to give a rally to the trailer park
in Alabama to people that are holding on to being
middle class? Is this what politics is? So? You know,
he says Donald is right in the war in Ukraine, etc. Etc.
Thank you best. Andy. Look, you know people are gonna
(45:53):
get this is gonna be a very passionate debate, and
people feel very strongly about it. People reaching out to
me on both sides. And it's interesting because every the
people that I know who want to Scantists to win
this primary are all overwhelmingly saying things like, I voted
for Trump twice. I respect him so much, I like
(46:14):
him so much. The Trump people who now when I
say Trump people, I'll vote for Trump obviously if he's
a nominee. Any Republican shop vote for Trump if he's
a nominee. We're just talking about primaries right now. But
people who have already said they're all in on Trump,
they don't say Desantist is a clown, I don't like um,
he's a no, no no. They say he's a very
good governor. His time will come. So it's really interesting
(46:35):
because you're gonna see this huge fight, but both sides
respect the primary combatant that is the choice of the
other side. I feel like that's that's uncommon. I'm really
seeing this a lot. You know, the people that are
the most ardent Trump primary voters to be Obviously it
hasn't happened yet. They all tell me they think Desantist
(46:58):
has done an amazing job in Florida and he's you know,
he's deserves a lot of credit and his day will come.
That's what That's what I'm hearing. I mean, not from
absolutely everybody, but ninety five percent and all the descent
is people you know, are saying Trump is amazing. He
built this movement. But we think because of his age,
YadA YadA, it could be very interesting to see where
(47:18):
this all plays out and where it goes. And we're
excited to be a part of that conversation with all
of you. Thanks for hanging out with us. Talk to
you tomorrow.
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