Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Mar 17 2023

What you need to know about the banking crisis. The two-tiered justice system. The Dems are blinded by their science. Hollywood producer Kevin Downes on making the movie "Jesus Revolution."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Happy Saint Patrick's Day, everybody. Welcome to
the Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Oh My, there's a lot going on. We have more
on the banks. It's not a crisis, they say, don't

(00:22):
call it a crisis. Don't speaketh the name banking crisis.
We will discuss this. Janet Yellen ask some questions that
I think are very illuminating about where all this is going.
We also have word coming out that over a thousand

(00:43):
additional people could an r likely to be charged in
connection with January sixth. I think we see the plan
here there now going to escalate this and drag it
out so that it becomes an election issue. That it's
obvious DJ doing the political bidding of the Biden regime,

(01:05):
no surprise. We'll discuss that. We also have Hunter Biden
speaking of the legal world. Hunter Biden is suing the
laptop store or you know the place where he left
his laptop at computer repair store. I don't even know
there really were that many computer repair stores left suing

(01:27):
them for invasion of privacy, which is interesting because I'm
pretty sure you would only sue a store for invading
the privacy that you claim you had on the laptop
you left behind if it was yours. We all know
it's real, We've known it's real from the very beginning,
but it is worth noting every time we get even

(01:47):
more confirmation that the Democrats, the leftist media lied to
you about this. And we'll discuss where all of that
is going as Hunter Biden is suing them right now,
Fauci still making the round and talking about how we
need to, you know, get a vaccine every year forever
for COVID. You know this is this is outrageous, but

(02:11):
this is what he's doing. Ron DeSantis has some very
interesting words about where all of that is going and
his view on why we should have known all along,
why it was quite clear that there was something amiss
in the world of COVID policy. And then also Third Hour,
by the way, Kevin Downs will be with us, the

(02:32):
producer of Jesus Revolution, which stars at the number of
fine actors, including Kelsey Grammer, whom I have always been
a fan of his work, particularly Frasier, but just in general,
and so they'll be joining us to talk about Jesus
Revolution in the third hour of the program. So I

(02:54):
know that. I think every day so far this week
except yesterday, we did Ukraine. Really top of the show,
a little bit of breaking news, but this banking situation,
because I think for the American people right now, the
gravity of the story and the urgency of the story
make it the single most important thing that we can

(03:14):
be following closely, because if this goes in the wrong direction,
you could have a real economic calamity. You could have
things get really ugly out there, a lot of layoffs,
a lot of people lose their jobs. I am hoping, see,
I always root for America. I'm not a Marxist, not
a Kami, not a Democrat. I actually want America to

(03:38):
do well, all of us. So I'm hopeful that this
will be averted. But we have to be honest about
what's going on and prepared for the reality that is
looming ahead of us as we see it. So with that,
the latest news on the banking not a crisis, but

(04:00):
it looks like a crisis, or it looks like the
moments before a full blown crisis. They have borrowed one
hundred and sixty four billion dollars from the FED to
backstop liquidity. First Republic Bank has had its shares plunging.

(04:20):
There is now a thirty billion dollar rescue package that
has been pulled together where a number of the big,
the two big to fail banks. I think we're allowed
to call them that. I think that the term of
art they use for them is systemically important banks. I
think I think that's what they call them. Systemically important

(04:41):
is the phrase. That's quite an interesting designation, isn't it.
It's starting to feel a little bit like jobs that
were essential versus non essential jobs. You know, it's just
an arbitrary government designation, isn't it. Because if you have
your money in you know, your local bank in Iowa,
or in Texas or in you name it, you'll have

(05:06):
your money there, you know, Oklahoma, Bank of Oklahoma or whatever.
You don't care if Bank of America or Chase our
backstop and you're not because of the systemic risk. You
see that as unfair. I want to return to that
question in a second, because if you think that the
government has a clear answer for you on this, and

(05:27):
that there's no chance that you could wake up in
a few weeks and your bank just as sorry, we
don't have it, and then there'd be a whole debate
over well, unlike SVB, the very connected to Democrats, big
Democrat donor Silicon Valley Bank, would your local bank get
this same bail out? Janet Yellen was asked that question,

(05:50):
I will you know what we'll do this in reverse word?
I was going to talk about the broad spectrum comments
here from Larry Coudlow, former senior Trump advisor on the
on the economy. Well, we'll get to that in a second.
Let's do the Janet Yelling commentary first. Here she is
when you know she's asked about what's going on. Ron

(06:15):
Johnson's asking her and asking about treasury and deficit spending
everything else. We're gonna go through some of this commentary.
Here's Ron Johnson asking Janet Yellen about deficit spending Durdan
Biden's years playing. So do you know in the first
three fiscal years the Biden administration, you know how much
the total deficit spending is going to be. We had

(06:35):
in economic collapse that was caused by right, and we
were certainly coming out of that because there's all this
penum demand and a slashing around of trillions of dollars.
So i'll answer that question for you too. The first
three fiscal years of this administration, the total desolats would
be about what five point seven trillion dollars. So there's

(06:56):
a lot of spending that's gone on, we know that much.
There's a lot that has happened here. There's a lot
of money that has gone into the federal balance sheet,
and we're supposed to think that there's not going to
be a downside to this. But the more the more simple,
the more straightforward question that Yellen was asked has to

(07:16):
do with, well, are all banks? Are all banks now
backstopped fully? And I don't think we actually have this audio.
I'll pull the audio for you in a few minutes.
But the more central question here for a lot of
people is what happens if my bank goes down? Do
I get the same treatment that SVP got? Janet Yellen

(07:38):
gave a whole Well, it kinda depends on what the
President thinks and what the FDIC thinks and whatever. So
then you've got so you either have a double standard
where your bank is not backstopped but SVB was. They
can say it's not a bailout, it's a bailout, it's
just how they fund the bailout. Or do you have

(07:59):
the now admitting and the Treasury Secretary admitting de facto
that every deposit, that trillions of dollars of non FDIC
in short deposits out there are insured by the federal government,
which kind of starts to feel a bit like the
nationalized banking system. In fact, what it really means is

(08:21):
that all banks can do whatever they want with your money,
chase whatever returns they want, and stuff gets really ugly,
they know there's going to be a truck backing up
from the FED dumping the money metaphorically speaking on their
front lawn, and that's that. What does that do for us?

(08:41):
How does that go forward? I think these are important
things for us all to be very clear on here,
because remember they're telling you there's no crisis. Meanwhile, did
anyone think that there was going to be a one
hundred and sixty four billion dollars borrowed from the Fed
in the last twenty four hours to back up all
these banks? No, we didn't know about that, did we

(09:02):
Did anyone think that First Republic shares would plunge twenty
percent and it would have to take a thirty billion
dollars rescue package. Even a few days ago. We were
remember initially it was oh, it's just SVB, and then
it was Signature, and now it's these other banks credit sweets. Oh,
credit sweets. Why is that important? Because that's a foreign bank.

(09:23):
So this starts to feel like a global problem. And
as what is it the as the US gets a cold,
the economically the rest of the world gets a flu
Isn't that the old the old phrase? And I think
that's certainly the case. I think that's certainly going to
be the reality of things get ugly here. So when

(09:46):
Yellen was asked to reassure the members of the committee
the banking system is sound, Americans can feel confident, confident
that their deposits are there, you know, she says, yeah,
you should feel confident. But we're not saying we're definitely
b stopping your bank. We'll make that determination as we go. Well,
they can't have it both ways. They can't have it
both ways. I thought this was interesting. The Larry Cutlow

(10:10):
said that he does not believe we have a true
financial crisis. Yet he says that things are still going
along pretty well. Play fourteen, the Federal Reserve should be
a shame. The controllers should be a shame, and the
FDI say should be a shame because they didn't do
their job. There's not going to be a regulatory bill.

(10:30):
Let the private sector work it out. Silicon Valley Bank
was a rogue operation. Not every bank is that super woke.
This is not true. But the point is, use the
private sector, sell the bank. Let private banks help these
regional banks, and we'll get out of this without a
banking crisis. I can't wait for your opening rip tonight.

(10:52):
I have a banking crisis. We don't know that yet.
You know how when you're on a plane and there's
somebody next to you, maybe it's a friend and family
member or spouse whatever, they look at you and you
started to hit bad turbulence, and you know, you know
the stats commercial airliners are you know, incredibly safe and

(11:18):
you know, safer than driving in a car. I mean,
commercial airlines are are actually doing remarkably well overall. With that,
you have whole years where there's not a single life
lost in a major commercial airliner because of a crash.
And you know, obviously we want that streak to go
as long as as as humanly possible. But if someone
will look at you and you can tell they're really nervous,

(11:39):
and you'll say, don't worry about it, and that thought
will cross the back of your mind too, because you realize, well,
what are you going to say? There's nothing you can do.
You know, there's no upside in saying, I don't know,
this turbulence is really bad. You know, maybe the I
don't know, maybe one of those engines could go. I know,
there's no point in saying that. It's always going to
be the proper response when someone's nervous on a plane

(12:03):
and you're not the pilot, you're sitting back there and
you have it's not in your hands at all. Of course,
the proper response is now, we're gonna be fine. We're
gonna be fine. But you know, in the back of
your mind, even if you thought this is what I'm
getting at here, even if you thought things weren't gonna
be fine, there's no point in saying that. I do
think that becomes part of the equation here with economists

(12:23):
and people who know the markets really well and everything else,
that the perception of recession or even a depression can
lead to the reality and so there is this, you know,
are people gonna tell are people gonna tell everybody the truth?
Or is there no point in saying the truth? You
might as well just be positive and hope for the best.

(12:44):
I do think that that factor is in right now
a little bit of what we're hearing, because nobody wants
to be the one that says, yeah, you know, run
for the life jackets and it turns out the ship
isn't going down right. So ah, it's a tough spot
right now. I know it's Saint Patrick's Day and people
are out there. There's a lot of revelry, a lot

(13:05):
of celebration, which is great for those of you who
are playing buck subscribers are seeing me on video. I
am wearing a green shirt in solidarity with Saint Patrick's
Day today as I am mostly Irish by background. But
after Saint Patrick's Day, we still have to focus on
the fact that the banking system could be in some
real trouble, which means the economy is in real trouble.

(13:27):
And that's assuming that we do we have smart decisions
being made by our leadership class, which I think is
a very big assumption these days. So we'll come back
to today's also want to hear your thoughts, especially if
you have any real expertise in the banking sector the markets.
Please give us a ring. Let's talk about it. Let's

(13:49):
let's ask if you have any big prediction you can
back up with an interesting theory and expertise. I know
that's pretty specific. Or you just want to wax. It's Friday.
I just want to wax philosophical. Gill be a ring
eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. Clay,
by the way on vacation. He's back Tuesday. He's having
a fantastic time in Italy. Absolutely loves it, which I
knew he would, And I'm actually now I'm getting jealous.

(14:11):
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Buck starts. Now. This is Buck, and we've got this
letter that has been reported on one page letter Bloomberg

(15:38):
News with the stoop here that was sent late last
year to the Chief to Chief Judge in DC, and
it offers details on the plan to prosecute they've already
been about, Oh, they've already been over a thousand people
prosecuted in connection to jen Ary sixth, And this is

(16:02):
saying that the expectation is there will be another thousand people,
perhaps up to twelve hundred people who will be prosecuted.
So now let's just do some quick math on this one.
If they if they've prosecuted essentially a thousand people up

(16:22):
to this point, a huge huge number of those obviously
our plea agreements as well. But if they prosecuted that
many people, and it is now what two years from
the day, how many people are they going to prosecute
between now and the election? About another thousand? So they're

(16:47):
they're just think about this. If they were scheduling this out,
they will have managed to have the machinery of j
six prosecutions coincide perfectly with the electoral calendar of Biden's
first term in office, right more and anytime they want.

(17:09):
That means they can say, oh, they can do an
update on the January sixth story. Oh, another person pleaded
guilty today. Another another person got you know, six months
in prison or got you know, felony charges for this
or that, whatever it may be. And what you see
is that this has really replaced Russia collusion, which was
the story. Now that was a fabrication. January six is

(17:31):
in a fabrication. It's a massive exaggeration the insurrection. But
what they were able to do with Russia collusion was
have a four year long narrative that they could use
at any point in time as a way of attacking
the Trump administration. Didn't matter that it was all I.

(17:52):
I didn't matter that was crazy. It was the narrative.
It gave structure to the anti Trump media and political
and institutional forces. And because otherwise, what are they going
to say? Economy is really good? Were at peace? Man?
Those trade deals actually were really smart. That was a
good idea. Wow, Trump was right on China. No, they

(18:12):
weren't going to say any of that, right obviously, So
it turned into Russia collusion. And now what you see
is that that same that same coordinated machinery of propaganda
is going to spend it already has spent two years
on January sixth, and you had, you know, Liz Cheney

(18:33):
and the Special Committee and all the you know, the
Hollywood style production of January sixth, But they're they're planning
to do this through the election, So I think we
all need to be prepared for this. This is the
way that they do things, This is how they operate
when they're in power. The clear decision the weaponization of

(18:57):
the January six prosecutions as a as a feature of politics. Now,
I know they'll say, oh, we were so backlogged, or
well they also could just not prosecute people for non
violent crimes and no property crime. They could also decide
that obstruction of a government proceeding isn't really worth the resources,

(19:18):
time and effort from a criminal justice perspective, and the
destruction of people's lives. Because now, if you're tied to
January six, they wanted it to be that you're effectively
a domestic terrorist. That's what the Democrat narrative has become.
But they're going to tell you, oh, we're so overwhelmed
with all these really important prosecutions. Well they're prosecuting some

(19:38):
people who shouldn't be prosecuted at all. So start with that,
at least not not in any meaningful criminal way. You know,
give them give them a fine, you know, a fine
for trespassing, and I don't ever do that again for
people who didn't attack anyone, didn't destroy anything. That would
seem to be a far more just approach. But no,

(19:58):
instead it's hundreds and hundreds of people obstructing a government
proceeding is now a severe, a severe crime. Oh okay,
you know this from the same Democrats, by the way,
who still effectively cheer when on Trump's inauguration there was
like a limousine set on fire and lunatics running around
the streets of DC, and they had protests outside the

(20:20):
White House while Trump was president in his final year
that they had to call in riot police for it.
Just they're fine with riots, They're fine with obstructing government proceedings,
just not this time. Just not this one. This one
is useful to them and useful to their narrative. And

(20:41):
I still, you know, I don't want to hear lectures
about behavior of political partisans until the Democrats apologize to
the American people for Biden voters rioting for months in
twenty twenty in the midst of a pandemic and using

(21:01):
the pandemic as a means of silencing anyone else, silencing
anybody who dissented from the Democrat line on a range
of issues, but giving special privileges to the BLM riders
as we know. In fact, I really appreciated this. Governor
Rohm DeSantis spoke out on this mentioned recently that it's

(21:24):
it's crazy that they allowed people that they allowed the
BLM protesters to do what they were doing, while everybody
else was told you better stay at home and shut up.
It was too dangerous for you to go to church.
But it was medically and socially advisable to go out

(21:46):
there and tell everybody. I mean, here's de Santists telling
everybody that we all remember that. The same Democrats that
tell us, you know, all that they tell us about
COVID and January sixth is the biggest deal ever. That
they were saying BLM riots during a pandemic, those were cool,
those were fine. Actually wrote a letter saying this, and

(22:09):
in the same letter they said it's fine to go
out and protests with BLM, but does not mean it's
okay for you to protest against lockdowns or other things
that you may So, you know, this was presumably a
woke virus. But I think the but I think that

(22:30):
really took the mask off a lot of these people,
because clearly it's it's it's absurd that you would take
that position from a scientific perspective, And so that was
really showing that this is more about them advancing an
agenda and about exerting control. It's exactly what it was
about all along. And I think you can make a
very strong argument that the twenty twenty election was held

(22:52):
under the threat of force from Biden partisans. You don't
have to take my word for it. Just look at
all the photos from all across the country of boarded
up store fronts, because we were all led to believe
if Trump gets reelected, there will be right there were
threats of this, there will be riots. You elect our guy,
you elect our clownish, buffoon, dementipation Biden, or else there

(23:17):
will be riots and your store, your neighborhood may get destroyed.
That was how the twenty twenty election actually occurred. Never
mind all the changes they made to the rules to
try to help themselves and pretend that COVID was really
what they were, what they were attempting to stop. It
had nothing to do with actually keeping us safe from
COVID and had everything to do with their power. We're
not going to forget these things. I'm not forgetting about

(23:39):
Russia collusion and the way that they lied, so that
when they try to lie now, or rather when they
try to lecture us about lying, I say, excuse me,
excuse me. Why do you think that you're in a position.
Why is the Democrat media in a position to lecture
people about election denialism without at least admitting first to

(24:04):
the Russia collusion lie. Right, put aside the merits of
their claims about election twenty twenty and everything else. Put it,
put aside the actual debate. I'm not going to take
lectures from people who were part of not just a lie,
a preposterous lie, you know, thinking that people Democrat community activists,
you know, organizers whatever, might have stuffed some ballots here

(24:26):
or there, or that they know done harvesting where they shouldn't.
You can argue as to whether or not that happened,
but that's not a crazy belief at all, And there
are people that go to prison for doing exactly that, Arguing,
as the Democrats did for four years, that Donald Trump
was a Russian asset, a stooge of the Putin, of

(24:46):
the Putin of the Kremlin, the Putin same idea, and
that they worked together to steal the twenty sixteen election,
and therefore Donald Trump was illegitimate and a Russian puppet.
That is crazy, and they pushed it for four years
and they've never admitted it. That's one example of why
I don't want to hear it. I don't want their lectures.
And now we can go to January six Yeah, they're
going to for the next two years or whatever it

(25:08):
is now eighteen months, you know, twenty months, they're going
to be continuously, continuously trying to remind America the January
sixth was the worst day in American history since the
Civil War, and it was worse than Pearl Harbor and
worse than nine eleven. All the stuff that they've already said,
and the way that they're rolling out these prosecutions, they're

(25:30):
going to make sure that it's in the news, in
the news, and the news, the drip, drip drip of
more of these prosecutions, and this is going to be
part of their narrative without even getting into how I
think they've been obviously unfair and and just ruthlessly punitive
with the DC Gulag and the way they've treated some

(25:51):
of these individuals who in many cases did really almost
nothing wrong. I mean, you're gonna say, you know, yeah,
I've jaywalked before, does that make me a criminal? Law?
I broke the law, right. I mean, you can magnify
minor violations of law through the words you use and
through the charges you bring in a whole range of ways.

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But for the people that weren't actually assaulting cops, and
by the way, assaulting cops is something Democrats were. This
brings me to my next point. They're fine with riot,
they're fine with assaulting cops, and they were not on
one day, one time, on a very politically content in
a very politically contentious moment, but they were fine with
it to terrify cities and to be a national movement

(26:35):
that went on for weeks and months, and fine with
it happened in my own neighbor. This is the thing
when Democrats, oh, it doesn't really know it did. Shattered
storefronts all over my street in midtown Manhattan, people running
around the streets acting like lunatics, throwing rocks at cops,
destroying stores, looting stores. And these were all Biden voters

(26:56):
who thought that they had a pass and they did
from Fauci and from the Democrat elites for doing what
they did. They had a they had a medical pass
even though it was COVID, and they had an ethical
and legal pass from the from the authorities because they
were Democrats. They were voting the right way. They hated Trump,
and we all knew it. That was the point. I remember,

(27:18):
even in New York City to Blasio, there was a
moment where even some Democrats found his his behavior. Some
Democrats there are, there are reasonable Democrats left, not very many,
but there are found him shameful that he let these
roving mobs destroy stores, loot them, steal, you know, the

(27:39):
whole thing, and nothing happened. I mean, I was hearing
the sirens all night, and you know, I'm I'm sitting here,
going they're on my block. You know, there's mobs running
around destroying storefronts and stealing, and where's the NYPD? Where
the cops. Oh, they say that they didn't have the
resources to handle the influx of all the Biden voter criminals. Okay,

(28:03):
those saying that, same Democrat Party, No, same cable news hosts,
you're all, you know, taking their DNC talking points. They're
the ones that are telling you every single person, all
one thousand people left to be prosecuted on January sixth.
They should have their lives and reputations ruined forever, irrespective

(28:26):
of whether they actually hurt anyone, irrespective of whether they
broke any truly serious laws. Some people did much worse
stuff than others. I've always said that, I've been consistent
on this from January sixth on. But a vast majority
of them are people that win inside. We've seen, we've
seen the videos, and thanks to what Tucker released last week,
we know. But they think those people all deserve to

(28:49):
have their lives ruined because they, even just for a moment,
made Democrats think that they weren't going to be able
to have all the power that they thought they had
achieved for the twenty twenty election cycle right when they
wanted it, And that that is the most unforgivable sin
of all. That is the greatest crime as far as

(29:10):
the Democrat apparatus is concerned, is standing in the way
of the apparatus's power. That is the greatest crime. Everything else,
you know, they can figure out, they can other circumstances,
they can justify pretty much anything, but that no, no,
that people have to be crushed and they will continue
to hammer on this. You will be hearing about this

(29:30):
for the next two years, so be prepared for that.
But also remember the things that I'm saying about the
context for all of this, about the two tiered system
of justice, about the way that they are abusing people.
These are human beings with families, you know, wives, children,
These are human beings whose lives are ruined for what
so that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden

(29:55):
and Kamala Harris can feel better about themselves, their voters
can feel superior to all of and that they can
stay in power. That's why their lives all have to
be destroyed. And this is the country we're in now,
So we got we gotta square up to it. We
got to see it for what it is and be
prepared for this massive political struggle that lies ahead here
and hopefully to get some justice. I'm wondering, is there

(30:19):
going to be a Republican presidential candidate who says, you know,
none who's going to commute the sentences of non violent
January sixth defendants. Is that going to happen? Are we
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Thanks for being with us from all across the country.
The stock market down three hundred points today, just watching

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that more closely than we normally would, because well, there
has been a whole lot of action from the banks
and from the regulators, from the FDIC, from the Treasury,
the Fed. Banks barred one hundred and sixty four billion
dollars to backstop possible liquidity concerns. And as I've been

(32:11):
saying to everybody, the first phase here is just to
make sure there aren't more runs on more banks that
got on the wrong side of the interest rates, and
you have a cascading effect. You have counterparty risk where
banks have money with other banks, or have instruments, have
financial products that they've sold other banks, and you know,

(32:33):
one goes down, you have contagion, and so they're trying
to stop that. But even beyond that, we're going to
find out here, I think in just a matter of
days what the Fed plans to do with interest rates.
And remember that Democrats know that the single most important
thing for them politically between now and election day is
avoid a crushing recession and whatever you have to do,

(32:58):
whatever you have to do to mortgage your mortgage. The
future is fine as long as you stay in power
in the presence, So that's going to be driving a
lot of the thinking. And then in the Ukraine War
side of things, Putin's fury this some Delhi mail as
International Criminal Court issues a warrant for his arrest for

(33:21):
war crimes and abducting Ukrainian children. The Kremlin has responded
says that this is outrageous, but says but Kiev meanwhile,
meaning the Ukrainian government, says, the wheels of justice are
turning very curious to know how exactly the ICC would

(33:42):
plan to do this. Even if you could get Putin
to go, Let's say the war were to end, there
was some kind of a ceasefire. What are you're going
to have. You're gonna have some kind of a team
arrest Putin somewhere, and if he goes to Paris for
a meeting, you're gonna grab him. Be interesting stuff, high stakes,

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that's for sure. So just keeping an eye on that
as well. But this really got my attention because, as
we know, there's still a lot of ongoing. There's ongoing effort.
It's not among everyday people so much. It's really in
the media, democrat elites, Fauchiites, public health authorities, I mean

(34:28):
the public health authorities that we all are familiar with
at this point, and I h CDC. They disgrace themselves
during COVID, absolutely disgrace themselves. The people who were the
most well known, the most outspoken proponents of Fauciite policy
included Fauci himself. They have no credibility left at this point.

(34:52):
And now they're starting to say, well, we learned as
we went, but that's not what they said as they
were going. And we told them all along you don't
know the answer, you're just insisting you do. And now
they're saying, well, we didn't know the answer, but that
was what we were supposed to do. No, it's not
how it works. You don't get to say the science
is settled, so you get what you want in terms

(35:14):
of policy, and then later on what it's clear the
science wasn't settled, say what can you do science wasn't settled.
That's not gonna fly. But this was particularly interesting to me.
A doctor Latipo, Joseph Latipo. He is the state surgeon
General here in Florida, and he is one of the

(35:35):
most interesting medical professionals that you'll hear on these issues.
Because Florida, for example, had they did run effectively a
control group study of schools with masking versus schools without
mandatory masking, and we all know what it finds. It's
like all the every time you actually have a control
group for all these COVID interventions, as how she calls them,

(35:56):
every time you had some kind of an actual rigorous
scientific study, what ended up happening. They didn't get the
results they wanted. The Democrat Fauci apparatus would end up
having to say, oh, well this isn't definitive, and they'd
find some other self reported study or something that would

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be science that should be considered scientifically laughable. Anyway, Florida
Surgeon General Lattipo Harvard, MD, guy knows about medicine and
look at all the data here in Florida. He has
said this, and I just think this is amazing. You
would have been banned on social media a year ago, certainly,

(36:39):
and maybe even six or seven months ago for saying
anything like this, and now here he is telling you
that he's not sure that anyone should be taking this
current vaccine play for COVID play one. These vaccines have
a terrible safety profile at this point the pandemic. You know,
I'm not sure any one should be taking them. And

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that's you know, that is the honest truth. I don't
think anyone probably should be taken. They have a terrible
safety and we have, unfortunately a CDC and FDA who
just very the most consistent thing they've done is deny
the truth. That's certainly the case. But I would really
want to know, I would really want to take it
to a level beyond this. I would like to see

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because you know what at MSNBC and CNN, the New
York Times newsroom and editorial page, the White House, you know,
Karin Jean Pierre speaking on behalf of Joe Biden, they
would all disagree with this and discount what doctor Alattapo
here says, which is really no one at this point,
and this is he's a physician, state state Did I

(37:46):
say attorney general? I meant to say surgeon general. I've
made that mistake before. Obviously state surgeon general. He's also
an amazing lawyer. No um state surgeon general, and he's
saying that he doesn't think anybody should be getting the shot. Now.
Governor Santis is pointing out that not only so, he's

(38:07):
got his state surgeon general saying, probably nobody should get
the shot. For sure, the data is clear that there's
no need for babies, for babies to be getting this
COVID vaccine. And here is the governor himself saying that
it is crazy that people like Fauci are still pushing

(38:28):
this stuff on them, the authorities, CDC, these other public
health people. I mean, their credibility is shot now because
of how they handled this. I mean, people are just
not going to do so what I would say. I mean,
I think Joe's done a good job of being honest
with people, but you really need to regain trust because
I think if you have something which you want is

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to be able to inform the public. Yes, make recommendations,
but they are not going to listen to any of
this under current circumstances because they've just been lied to
so many different times. I mean, the fact that they're
still they're pushing these boosters on the six month old babies,
that's insane. It's absolutely insane. It is insane. And what's

(39:10):
remarkable is that if they were right in pushing this stuff,
then they should be willing to engage in an open
debate explain how that's not the case up to now.
The numbers that you can see will show you that
really nobody they think that there's no clear proof that

(39:32):
a single infant in our entire nation died specifically because
of a COVID infection. And even the numbers that they
will show sometimes I'll say it's like fifty or one
hundred or something like this, you would say, well, that
is such a small percentage of risk that if you're

(39:52):
going to vaccinate for COVID based upon that risk percentage,
you should be vaccinating for one hundred other things that
could happen to a baby of the So it just
does not make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.
And by the way I'm taking you through the there's
an escalation here at points being big Latipo saying nobody
should take the shot in his mind because of side effects.

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Descantis is pointing out the governor they're portioning that they're
pushing the shot on six month olds is just completely insane,
And Lattimo raises the stakes a little bit more here
by saying, I mean this is if you said the
shot had had side effects, you were a monster and
you shouldn't be listened to, and you should be kicked

(40:35):
off of kicked out of the digital public square, off
of TV, fired from your job. Bad person. That's what
they did to us. Joe Biden did that to us.
Joe Biden and I will not forgive or forget. Was
talking about the recklessness of those who didn't want to
get the shot, how they were exposing loved ones, exposing

(40:56):
co workers to dying from COVID because they weren't getting
the shot job, and blaming really creating this cast of undesirables,
blaming people who didn't want to get the shot, who
turned out, of course were correct and they didn't need
to get the shot. But this goes even further than that.
Doctor Latipo again Florida Surgeon General says, this is something

(41:17):
you're definitely not allowed to say in a lot of places.
Allow to say it in the Free State of Florida,
but you're not allowed to say it in a lot
of other places. Still that a new study shows, you
know what, I'll let the doctors say it himself. There's
a study published a few weeks ago in a journal
called Lancet. What these authors show? They showed that after
seven months, the protection for infection right it you know

(41:40):
it started, I don't know, around seventy percent down, down,
down down. At seven months, it hops onto the other
side of the axis. Right, So it is negative and
that continues, and that the magnitude of that negativity increases
over time. What does that mean, folks? It literally means
that the people who received that vaccine were more likely

(42:03):
to contract COVID nineteen after seven months than the people
who denied. Now, the Lancet is a globally recognized medical journal.
This was published in the Lancet. Does Fauci even try
to wrestle with this possibility publicly? Does anyone even talk
about this? No? If doctor Latipo is wrong, then they

(42:27):
should somebody in the public health establishment should offer to
debate him. Let's see, the whole regime of COVID was
only possible because we've entered a period where debate is
no longer something that the left decided years ago the
way to win more power was to set rules where

(42:48):
debate itself platforming speech equals violence. Debate itself is unacceptable
it is we set the rules, you shut up and obey.
That is the only thing that is acceptable to the
left anymore. They will not debate these things publicly. I mean,
could you imagine a Fauci if somebody who was adequately

(43:09):
informed on both the history of what happened during COVID
and the data, what the real data shows, the real numbers,
and Faucci had to have a public debate with them.
I mean, after a while, you would think it was
elder abuse against Fauci or something. I mean, it would
just be a it would be a total butt kicking.
But they'll never do that. They'll never allow that, And
they're going to continue and leave a lot of this

(43:33):
COVID apparatus in play so that down the line they'll
be in a position to reinstitute it to remobilize around
another issue, whether it's climate or something else. So it
is important that we get this right. It is important
that we continue because otherwise you're going to have a
little tyrant Fauci and his acolytes saying, yeah, you gotta

(43:57):
get a shot every every year, get your COVID shot,
you COVID shot, or else you're you know, you're a
bad person. Play five. It is likely that this thing
is not going to disappear. It's not going to be eradicated,
and it's not going to be eliminicated, So it's going
to be around, you know, for the foreseeable future. So

(44:19):
it is likely that we will require an intermittent likely
at the same time as we get a flu vaccine
at least once a year, very similar to what we
do to keep updated on our immunity against influenza. It
is very likely that a similar situation will be experiencing
with COVID, namely getting a booster shot once a year,

(44:42):
probably at the same time as we get an influenza shot.
I want to be clear that I was saying two
years ago this is what was gonna end up happening, right,
that this would be the obvious transition they to make. Oh,
it used to be. If you said it was like
the flu and we should treat it like the flu shot,
you're a horrible person. Now it's policy. They just act
like you're not supposed to know. We have to win

(45:05):
this debate because they're not going to stop, or we
have to win the argument. They won't debate us. We
have to win the argument and that means we also
have to win power to make them stop. There are
some states where you are free from this madness. There
are others where you still live at the whim of
the COVID lunatics. It's just a question of how long
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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up a win for
Team Reality. All right, team welcome back. We've got Kevin
Downs with us now. He is the producer of a
new movie, Jesus Revolution. The story based on real events,
seated box office expectations when it came out a few
weeks ago. They had said in the industry that, you know,

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maybe to bring in six to seven million the opening weekend.
It earned more than fifteen million dollars. Came in third
at the box office, just beyond the latest Marvel movie.
I was playing on far fewer screens. It's actually number
one on per theater average earnings per screen. And we
wanted to talk to Kevin Downs and now about the movie.

(47:18):
I think a lot of people want to see it. Kevin,
thanks for calling in By good to be here. How
are you today? I'm good, sir, Thank you. So tell
everybody across America, why do you think this movie has
been resonating with the audiences who have gone out to
see it. Well, I think you know, right now is
just a good a good time to go out to
a movie theater and see a movie that really has

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a hopeful and uplifting theme and just really has a
unity and love is also another theme of it. And
that's what our country needs right now. So there's so
much depressing news and bad news coming out of the
last few years that you know, having a movie that
makes you feel good about life that's really sorely and

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we're seeing audiences really respond in a significant way. You
need to tell us a bit of the story here,
because it is it's based on a true story of
pastor Greg Laurie and this was going on, I believe
in southern California. What happened, like what was the Jesus
Revolution The movie's all about. Yeah, Jesus Revolution is based

(48:22):
on a true story the Jesus Movement, which happened you know,
across the America in the seventies. Started in the late sixties,
early seventies in California, and so we just pick up
a piece of this story. There's thousands of stories that
came out of the Jesus movement. That time magazine kind
of had a cover, a cover of a psychedelic Jesus

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and a bunch of photos and pictures of people being
baptized in southern California waters. And so we just picked
up the story of a couple of pastors, one of
them a little bit older, Pastor Chuck Smith Calgary Chapel,
and Pastor Greg Laurie. He was actually a teenager at
that time. Master and I just followed this story of
why these hippies that were, you know, abandoning drugs and

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rock and roll and all of a sudden finding their
way into churches and what was it that was causing
them to search for something different in their life and
try and have a change. And so, you know, the
themes of love and unity are really they resound. We've
had a lot of audience members that just show a
lot of emotion and a lot of tears and a

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lot of people hugging, and certainly our country needs one
big fat hug right now. I think. So the movie's
playing really well, we're speaking to Kevin Downs. He's a
producer of Jesus Revolution, which is in theaters now. You know, Kevin,
in addition to being a producer, you're an actor, writer, director.
What's it like trying to get faith based films made today?

(49:52):
What's the attitude like toward them in Hollywood? Are are
they starting to see I mean when films like this happened,
I mean not. I've talked to other people that let's say,
just deal with religious or traditional themes in independent films,
and there's always this, oh my gosh, this film is
such a big success. Who would have thought, well, it's like, well,
when you look at a lot of these films, when
they're well made and they have a theme that would

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resonate with a traditional and often in this case a
Christian audience in particular, it shouldn't be such a surprise.
So is the attitude Is it opening up for independent films?
Maybe a none of the big studios, but more broadly
even how's that going? Yeah? No, look I think it's
going great. You know. I had a film called I
Can Only Imagine that came out five years ago, did

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over eighty two million at the box office for a
little seven million dollars film and our partner lions Gate,
which is one of the big studios that you know, what,
can you guys keep making movies for us? So we
signed to deal with them and they financed our films,
and you know, we've done a number of films. Obviously
a lot of that time periods been through this pandemic,
so that's been a challenge. We didn't know we were

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gonna kind of get into trying to help rebuild a
theatrical marketplace, but really thrilled even to be able to
have a part of that and our in lions It's
been awesome throughout it. I mean, you know, they're thrilled
with the results of Jesus Revolution and just how audiences
are truly responding to the film. They love the film
obviously and want us to make more like that. That

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really serves as the audience that covers a lot of
bit all America. Well that's good to hear. You know,
so many times when we have people that have a
Christian message, particularly they tell stories about how, oh, you know,
nobody would nobody would work to pick it up, and
we had to independently finance in and all this other stuff.
So the fact that at least one you know, I know,
lions Gate, one you know name studio that people are

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familiar with seeing a lot of movies from over the years,
I'm sure understands that these are good movies and it's
a good business too, So why wouldn't people want to
be involved that that's encouraging? I think, Um, Kelsey Grammer,
he's in your movie? Do you think that's awesome? I'm
kind of a Kelsey Grammar fan? So how did that
come back? Yeah? No, I mean to play pastor Chuck Smith.

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I mean, Kelsey kind of embodies who Chuck Smith was
just in his persona, and he was kind of the
first first name that kind of popped in mind of
co director genre when John King and me said, what
do you get to Kelsey Grammar? And I said, he'd
be great? I mean, would he do it? Let's just
find out, And so we sent the script to his
reps and next thing we know, we got a yes.

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And so I asked Kelsey the first day, Hunt said,
I'm like, why did you say yes to this? I'm
actually really curious and he said, you know, my friends
and I we were kind of getting together one night
having dinner, and we kind of wondered, you know, it
wouldn't be great if if we started doing projects that
actually would have a legacy behind them. And your script
came into my email inbox that very night and I

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read it and I thought it was incredible, and so
I just told my people, I want to do this,
and here we are. And he's such a first of all,
he's a great actor, but he's even human being. I
Kelsey's so great and would do another project with him
in absolute Heartbeatum, he kind of is, you know, he's
kind of like that guy next to where that you see,
you know, in the movies or in his TV shows,

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and you really want to root for him, and that's
who he is as an individuals that I've found wanting. Also,
since the movie is based off of real people like
pastor Greg Lori, have they did they collaborate at all?
Have you heard from them what they think of the movie? Yeah, definitely.
I mean, you know, the script was based on some
interviews that we did with Greg Lori and his wife Kathy,

(53:37):
and then you know, did some online research from some
of the other participants and kind of you know, there's
a bunch of different stories you could tell in this
time period. Certainly you could go down a dark path,
but we just felt like we really wanted to highlight
the hope and the love and the unity that some
of these people kind of experienced during this time period.

(53:57):
I mean, only have an hour and forty five minutes
or so, it's elegant movie, and so that was the
themes you wanted to focus on and target on. And
Greglori was involved actually throughout it acquirement, but he was
just so curious how movies were made, and he was
he was a great help. You know, if we were
kind of getting certain things wrong or something that didn't
feel right, then we would make tweaks and adjustments, and

(54:20):
then he's thrilled with the final product. I mean, just
you know, the movie makes everybody look really, really good
in a very good light. And which is the hope
in the theme of all of our movies that we
make at Story Companies. Where can people who I mean,
this is a great weekend to go see a movie.
Where can people sort of find where they can see it?
Is there also going to be a digital streaming option, etc. Yeah,

(54:42):
so right now we're still in theaters. This is our
fourth week in theaters when over two thousand, three hundred
and fifty screens across America and Canada, and so you
just kind of look wherever you find, you know, fan Dango,
app or just google Jesus Revolutions probably playing at theater
near you and check it out while it's in theater.
It's a movie definitely that is a better experienced playing

(55:06):
with a group of people in a movie theater. And
because it's something to talk about, something to laugh about,
and people who have a really good experience, you know,
watching the film together. Look really appreciate you being with us.
Kevin Downs. Jesus Revolution is the movie, Kevin, thanks so much. Hey,
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