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May 22, 2023 48 mins
Senator Tim Scott officially enters the race. NYC Mayor Eric Adams' crime plan is ridiculous. Bud Lite keeps stepping in it.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Monday edition. Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Everybody,
thank you for being here with us. We missed you
over the weekend. We trust you are ready for action today.
Relaxed after a couple of days away from the show.
We've got a lot to discuss with all of you.
Bud Light continues to tank, and we keep saying, I mean,

(00:27):
they just really need to apologize and spend some money
on conservative shows and maybe things will turn.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Around for them. But they won't do it. We'll get
into a little bit more of that.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
You have.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The New York City mayor is calling for migrants to
be sent to every US city across the country. This
is always fascinating Democrats say migrants are and where they
say migrants. Just to be very clear, they're not talking
about immigrants who come here legally. Illegal aliens was the
term we were using until about five minutes ago. Illegal

(01:02):
aliens build this country, make us all richer, and make
everything better. But somehow they're a huge financial drain on
New York City such that New York City needs to
send them to other places because they can't afford them.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's an interesting situation, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Also Eric Adams, as you notice, I've got a lot
of New York on my mind these days. Eric Adams
has a new planet combat retail theft, which is a massive, massive,
millions and millions of dollars problem in New York City.
An update on the Epstein Jeffrey Epstein situation involving Bill

(01:38):
Gates in the Wall Street Journal that I thought was interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I want to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
We haven't spoken much, Clay, and I haven't talked you
a lot about Epstein's case and how there is still
a lot that is unresolved there. There's a lot that
we are told to accept that many of us say
that is unacceptable, meaning we don't have proper answers, we
don't have what we need.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So we'll get into that. A shooting in Memphis, Tennessee
that had a lot of people particularly fired up over
the weekend because the homeowner defending himself, his home, and
his family from incoming fire was arrested and is facing
charges from the Soros BACKDA in Memphis, Tennessee. So returning

(02:23):
fire now can get you locked up. We'll explain that
one later on.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Oh, one more thing the NAACP is telling is telling
people don't go to Florida. They're saying, don't go to Florida,
the state where the biggest problem. Here you go, if
you travel to Florida, be where your life is not valuable.
Play that audio for you later. But the state where
the biggest problem is no one is able to afford

(02:50):
houses in the biggest cities because of supply and demand,
because everyone is moving to Florida.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
They're saying, oh, don't go, your life is not valued.
But let's start with this. Clay's like to focus in
on politics. The primary feels like the primary is underway now,
you know. It feels like we're really starting to enter
that phase where this is going to be a dominant theme,
a dominant situation day to day in American politics. Tim Scott,
the Senator, a senator from South Carolina, just formally announced

(03:22):
he is in this fight. Here is just from a
few moments ago, the Senator from South Carolina. Play it.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
They're replacing education within doctrination. They spent COVID locking kids
out of the classroom, and in Biden's America, crime is
on the rise and law enforcement is in retreat. The
far left is ending cash bails, They're demonizing, demoralizing, and
defunding the police. Joe Biden and the radical left are

(03:49):
attacking every single rung of the ladder that helped me climb.
And that's why I'm announcing today that I'm running for
president out of the United States America.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
A fiery announcement. Sorry I stepped on it for a
second there.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Tell me, Clay, what is your first reaction to I mean,
my sense is Senator Scott is very widely liked in
GOP circles. Everyone is like, I like Senator Scott. He's
a good man. What does it mean for the political race?
So I love the way he announced there.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
It's like he was a macho man Randy Savage or
hul Cogan, like ripping off his shirt to reveal a
US flag underneath or something. Tim Scott, we've had him
on the show a lot. I'm sure we'll have him
on at some point this week enters into a race
that I think it's fair to say buck right now,
there are about five people that most people would recognize

(04:56):
as running for the rate. There's a lot of people
who have entered right but I would say, obviously Trump,
we expect the Santis. The reports were He's going to
enter this week as well, Nicky Haley, Tim Scott, and
then maybe Vivik Ramaswami is in that five. We'll see
whether Mike Pence is going to enter. There's been a
lot of talk that suddenly Chris Christy's going to enter.

(05:16):
I am curious most with Tim Scott entering whether he's
really running for president or is he running for vice president,
because if he were running for president, then he would
immediately attack Donald Trump, who is the leader. And I
would say what everybody needs to pay attention to so

(05:37):
far that characterizes this race, Buck, is almost everybody has
gone after Ron DeSantis, the guy who's presumed to be
in second place and isn't even officially in this race,
as opposed to going after Trump. And the reason why
I would point this out is what was the number
one story of twenty sixteen, Buck, When you go look
back at the Republican primary nineteen eighteen, whatever it was,

(05:59):
eighteen or nineteen, people enter and everybody thinks Trump's gonna fade.
I just need to get it down to me versus Trump,
And then what happened? They got it down to me
versus Trump, and instead of Trump falling back and the
counter puncher being the nominee, Trump just surged even more

(06:22):
into a more prominent spot. And the reason I bring
this up is, so long as everybody is attacking DeSantis
as opposed to Trump, what it means to me, Buck
is everybody's actually angling to try to be vice president,
or they're angling to be in the Trump administration more
than they want to be president. Now, Tim Scott has

(06:44):
a compelling story. I agree with much of what he says.
He is really selling the idea of the Barack Obama
sound sold in two thousand and eight, which is America
is a redemptive, incredibly successful country where any kid that's
born today can grow up to be president of the
United States. And that is to me what Tim Scott's

(07:06):
ultimate message is. Whether you get into the nitty gritty
of his politics, his message is America is an exceptional place,
the greatest, freest country in the history of the world.
And my life story is evidence of the American dream
and what is possible here. And so I think that's
very compelling. The question I have, and I'm curious what
you would say to this, is is he actually running

(07:28):
for president or is he running for vice president? I
think he's running for vice president. Yeah, And I don't
mean that in any to be dismissive or disrespectful of
the idea that we don't know because we don't, Okay,
no one really knows where this prime area is going
to go and if but running for vice president for

(07:48):
someone like Tim Scott makes a lot of if you're
a strategist for him, makes a lot of sense, right,
especially if it's for Trump, because you know you're on
the launch pad. My friend, your four years if Trump wins,
you got four and but it's not even four years.
Within two years of Trump's second term, tim Scott would
be gearing up for his own presidential run. So it's

(08:09):
a very different vice presidential slot now with a term
limited second term president, then it would have been if
you're running, you know, if you're running to be someone's
VP for possibly eight years, like Joe Biden was for
Barack Obama, that's a long time now. I know Biden
ended up coming back and winning the presidency, but there
was a once in a century pandemic and some crazy
things happened. So the Tim Scott running for VP to me,

(08:33):
makes that that's the long term play makes a lot
of sense that the places where I think he could
be a little bit vulnerable in the primary to the
degree that I'm not sure. He's again very a very
likable guy who has loves America, you know, tells us
a story of America as a great place. That so

(08:54):
you're gonna have so much connection with him from even
Trump voters in the primary, DeSantis voters in the primary.
DeSantis hasn't announced yet, but we're days away probably and others.
The only place though, if you're going to see him,
I think get some my understanding. I should check on
the immigration thing. I think he's not great on immigration

(09:17):
from a very conservative or right of center point of view,
my point of view. And also on the criminal justice
reform issue. If you remember, after George Floyd, he was
we need to talk about police reform. And I was
shouting in June and twenty twenty about this isn't about
police reform. There are people rioting in the streets. They
don't care about police reform. This is something else, This

(09:39):
is ominous, this is wrong. So he was on the
wrong side of that issue in the beginning. Now did
he get better.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Sure that's a place where I could see him getting
some criticism if anyone out there, and I really mean this,
I've got a lot of South Carolinians who it's fun
to say Carolinian, a lot of South Carolinians who listened
to the show. If you think Tim Scott could go
the disc or if you just want to want to
weigh in, maybe you don't think Tim Scott should be

(10:04):
running at all, maybe you're not a eage fan eight
under two two two eight a two play.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
We've got that.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
But we've also got in addition to the Tim Scott announcement,
we have a likely Ron DeSantis announcement coming later this week.
And can I just throw this into the mix. I
want ever to listen very closely. This was over the weekend.
So when Ron is talking Governor Florida talking about COVID,

(10:30):
what he says about say the vaccines and warp speed
and the language he uses play clip one.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
The way they weaponized these COVID vacxas was a massive
incursion into our freedoms. They wanted to deny people the
right to put food on their table if they didn't
bend the knee and get a COVID shot that they
may not have wanted and that many of them did
not need. We can never allow warp speed to trump

(11:00):
informed consent in this country ever, again.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
That line, Clay, we can never allow warp speed to
trump informed consent.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
We all understand what he's doing here. He's calling out
warp speed because this is one This is I can't
think of a place where the Trump base is more
uncertain of Trump honestly on policy than on his I
still think warp speed was amazing and saved you know,
one hundred million lives line, and I think Ron's going
after it here early.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, that's where Trump is caught between the reality of
the results of the COVID shot. It's basically worthless. Let's
be honest, by and large, in terms of anything, it
is truly worth his clay, because they're throwing it out
now all over the world basically, and every school and
university that made such a big deal about the fact

(11:54):
that kids had to get the shot and then also
be boosted, they're quietly removing the COVID shot from their
list of vaccine requirements. And for anybody out there who
remembers going into college and the shots requirement. You have
to have the vaccine immunology as a part of being admitted.
You probably remember having to submit something there. To my knowledge,

(12:15):
they've never pulled a shot off of that list in
most of our lives. So the fact that they're just
suddenly now quietly all of these schools which were so
draconian about getting the shot, they're suddenly pulling it back,
lets you know what's going on. I think it's an area.
Remember strategically, Desantus is attacking Trump from the right. Nobody's

(12:38):
ever really gone after Trump because Trump has typically had
a lot of support on the right side of the
political equation, at least in the last six years or so.
And I think the single most vulnerable part of Trump's
twenty twenty four candidacy is potentially his argument that the
COVID shot was a success. Now that actually might play

(13:02):
well in a general election, though buck ironically for Trump,
because there are a lot of middle of the road
voters who want to believe that they didn't get completely snookered,
that that COVID shot really was a success. And so
this is one of those angles where look, DeSantis is
more right wing on abortion than Trump is. Trump in

(13:23):
some ways is almost running a general election campaign in
the Republican primary. I think that's interesting. Let's also talk
a little bit more about Tim Scott. W we got back,
come back because I've got a theory on Tim Scott.
I'm curious if you buy it or not. Buck, We'll
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Buck Sexton Show, we were talking about the fact that

(14:49):
it feels as if many people who are entering the
Republican race are auditioning to be Donald Trump's vice president
and if not his vice president, Secretary of Treasury, Secretary
of State, that they're that they're interested in being in
the administration. And the only it's I want you guys
to just pay attention to what's going on here. The

(15:12):
only person that has gone into the Republican race that
Donald Trump has actually attacked is Ron DeSantis. That's it.
Here's what Donald Trump had to say in the last
few minutes about Tim Scott entering. Good luck to Senator
Tim Scott in entering the Republican presidential primary race. It

(15:33):
is rapidly loading up with lots of people, and Tim
is a big step up from Ron D. Sanctimonious, who
is totally unelectable. I got opportunity zones done with Tim,
A big deal. That has been highly successful. Good luck, Tim.
Exclamation point right. That is Donald Trump's reaction. This is

(15:56):
a Trump race, This is a Trump to santisfied, and
we all know it. And all these other candidates are
not going to be the president unless something dramatic happens.
That I know, no one can really predict the future
of politics. But a couple of things, by the way
that I checked out while we were in the break,
I was I was actually far too generous toward Well,

(16:17):
you look at the there were a lot of candidates
in the recall in California. Gavin Newsom got eighty four
percent of the black vote personally. There were other candidates
beside Larry Elder who were also on that recall ballot.
So when you look at the number of Democrats, it's
like ninety ninety two percent. And then you look at
Lindsey Graham versus Tim Scott, and they weren't running, you know,

(16:39):
against each other. But Tim Scott got two percent more
of the black vote in South Carolina than Lindsay Graham
did two percent in his home state.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
So it has just been these numbers have been immovable
four years. That doesn't mean they're not moveable. That doesn't
mean that the identity politics got.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Run against do we know is in another black candidate
that Again, this is your data on the fly here,
it's it's challenged. I know Lindsay Graham ran against a
black candidate for because they spent fifty million dollars or
whatever the heck it was to try to flip the
Lindsey Graham seat in South Carolina. And the reason why

(17:19):
the identity politics thing, I think that has not been
tested that often is what happens if a black Republican
runs against a white Democrat. Now it's in California, Larry Elder,
but it was exactly Larry Elder is to be fair,

(17:40):
I think you know a conservative talk radio host in
a state that that doesn't have that high of a
black population. I just I am just curious if you
had if herschel Walker had been running against I don't know,
like as off right the white guy, what would that
have looked like in terms of the numbers. And again,

(18:02):
part of the data here is just looking at the
overall electorate and analyzing it. Trump lost in twenty twenty
not because of the black vote. The black vote was
actually down. Trump lost because suburban white women hate him
all right, That's the truth. And my biggest thing on
Trump as you move towards twenty twenty four is how

(18:24):
do you persuade suburban white women that Trump is not
the devil? Because they turned on him in a big way.
Trump Trump didn't do well enough with white women for sure,
White suburban women, white working class voters in russ Belt states,
and college in general, college educated white voters as well.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Now that those were the underperformance areas relative to twenty sixteen,
which I think is the important metric to look at right,
like he's got there other places where a Republican's gonna
have a tough time. Do you want to take We've
got a couple of people from South Carolina. You want
to let let our folks weigh in here? Yet, Denise
in Columbia, South Carolina, how you doing?

Speaker 6 (19:01):
I'm great, Buck?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I would play and I are fantastic? Denise? What's on
your mind?

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Well? I just had a few things said by Senator Scott.
He is incredibly one of the best senators we've had
in South Carolina. And my main concern is, like you
were just discussing about Lindsey Graham, the fifty million dollars.
I would be worried that they would try to do
that again in South Carolina and point in cases Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
You mean you mean you mean if Tim Scott were
not your senator, that there would be a lot of
money spent to try to replace him. Is that what
you're trying to say?

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Absolutely? Absolutely? Yeah, Well I mean more in case. You know, Jacksonville,
Florida just elected their first mayor Democrat mayor, and as
y'all know, a lot of people have been escaped into
South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Litten, Yeah, thank you for calling in, Denise Barry from Columbia.
South Carolina's got another Tim Scott take How you doing, Barry?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Good? How are you? Thanks for taking the call? The
uh issue of Tim Scott. You know this is an
honorable man. Now I just heard that he's black. Well okay,
I'm lying, but you know, I mean, you like.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You like the idea of these running You think he
can be president?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
I think he can be president.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
All right, Thank you Berry, Thank you for calling in.
We had to get to very with the music means
unfortunately the end of the hours here, so we had
to bounce. Apologies for that play.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
What what kind of a wild, insightful and fun ride.
Are you taking us on to the next the next hour,
we got so many topics we were thinking about getting
to where we do have a tingle.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
There's a great front page story on bud Light and
the collapse there. Also, I want to talk we did.
We were going to mention it, but this n double
a CP boycott, Yes, Florida is among the most ridiculous
stories that I have seen in some time. We'll discuss
both and what they represent when we come back for
hour two.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Third hour of Plan Buck kicks off right now everybody
and New York City's Mayor Eric Adams has some problems
on his hands. The biggest city in America is seeing
crime rates that are so high, particularly along the lines
of day to day and quality of life crime, shoplifting

(21:30):
and vagrancy and all these issues that people are wondering
what he's going to do, if anything, try to turn
things around.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I've got some updates for you on that.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And then also we have the migrant crisis, which we'll
dive into a bit more. I keep wondering why it's
sort it's a crisis. If you care about sovereignty or
border immigration law, why is it a crisis for New
York City. Notice, Democrats never seem to want to answer this,
because we're always told that illegal immigration only has upside

(22:04):
for the country. We need these workers, right, that's what
the left will all we say, and we're a nation
of illegal immigrants and all the rest of it. So
we'll get into some of this, but I wanted to
start with this, this crackdown on shoplifting plan for NYC
that was put out by the mayor. I think this

(22:26):
is just a couple of days ago because everyone I
was looking at what's happening, whether it is Portland, San Francisco,
Los Angeles, you know, find me a Washington, d C, Baltimore,
find me a major Democrat controlled city, and I'll show
you a place where things have gotten worse with quality

(22:49):
of life and crime is over the last three years
on the rise. Why I should always know what is
it about the last three years?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
What changed? We all know BLM two point zero and
the narrative shift and the political shift of Democrats toward
legalizing the illegal and no longer punishing criminals and thinking
that criminals are a victim class themselves to be apologized

(23:18):
to by the state. The criminal is not the problem.
The problem is the state's failure are failure yours and
mine in giving the criminal what he needs or she
needs overwhelmingly he but in order to be happy, so
they won't go car jacking for the fifteenth time. Right,

(23:39):
it's ourfaul, that's what we're told. Well, let's just let's
look at the shoplifting plan that New York City's put
out last week. I told you do remember the number, Clay,
was it almost seven hundred million or almost eight hundred
million lost in fair jumping, turnstile jumping and on the
bustle almost almost seven hundred million? You said, yes, thank

(23:59):
you almost, Which is it's a lot of money for
a city. Seven hundred million dollars. You think that's a
pretty big deal. People just not paying and it's a
violation of law. So here's the crackdown on shoplifting shoplifting now.
I think Target alone said they lost five hundred million
dollars nationwide to shoplifting last year. That's five hundred million

(24:20):
dollars one company. Think about that for a moment. I
mean I have to wonder what what For a second
are the what are gross sales? Clay, I'm looking this
up of Target stores nationwide, because when you're starting to look,
I mean, I know it's in the billions. Oh wow, wow,

(24:42):
total revenue one hundred and nine billion dollars. That's a lot.
That's a lot more than I thought I was gonna say,
like fifty billion or something. Anyway, that's a lot of
money to Target's making a profit. To be fairbuck, the
profit margin in retail is awesome, manuscule. So when you're
talking about five hundred million dollars in theft, as Target
has put out, uh, this is and and and and

(25:04):
it's also worth noting that this is large scale theft.
That's different than just you know, you're filling a packet,
stealing a yeah, candy bar or something. We're talking about
like sort of orders of magnitude, professional thievery that is
taking a huge portion of their profits.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
They call it organized retail theft. Now, that's the term
that law enforcement uses for this. It's happening in New
York City all the time. I've been in stores in
New York where people have been stealing stuff and the
clerks just sit there, and you know, it's demeaning for
the clerks. It's demeaning for the other people in the store.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
It's uh, it's unsettling because you're also you're watching someone
break the law. You understand that if someone does confront
this person, there could be a physical confrontation, and you know,
it's just the whole thing as you're watching a crime
take place. So here's how Mayor Adams is going to
deal with the mat ever and agree it's not a

(26:00):
massive problem. For years, they lied, Oh, it's just COVID.
Remember when the crime win was COVID Clay. Yes, everyone's
staying at home watching Netflix. Crime is going up though
it's because of COVID. It never made But they were lying.
They were just but they're buying time for Biden in
the election. Here, that was the whole point. Okay, here's
the plan. Give first time offenders intervention programs instead of prosecution,

(26:23):
de escalation training for retail employees, establish neighborhood watch groups,
and install kiosks in stores to connect would be thieves
with social services programs. The Mayor of New York City saying,

(26:45):
let's take fewer juveniles into the justice system where they
will face any consequences whatsoever. Let's have retail employees learn
to do even less than they're doing. And we're going
to spend more money on public services that won't.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Do a damn thing to change any of this. That's
the plan to deal with shoplifting. Wow, I wonder why
it doesn't get any.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Better and Buck, this has real tangible impact because I
got some numbers here on population that was in the
Wall Street Journal editorial. I read this and I was like,
I couldn't believe it. We know that a lot of
people move because of COVID, but now quality of life,
I think has also become a major factor. Did you

(27:26):
see these numbers? According to the latest census data, New
York City lost four hundred and sixty eight thousand people
between April of twenty twenty and July of twenty twenty two.
That's five point three percent of its population. And it's
not just New York City. That's more people buck than
live in the entire city of Miami. That many people

(27:50):
left New York City. This is according to Wall Street Journal.
Other big city losers Chicago lost eighty one thousand people,
LA lost seventy six thousand, and San Francisco lost sixty
five thousand and Buck that population for San Francisco seven
point five percent of the overall population of San Francisco

(28:13):
left in the last two years. Think about that, and Buck,
it's not just the people that are leaving. I would
bet if you dove into the data, it's the wealthiest,
it's the highest educated, it's the people with the most
opportunity to go elsewhere. So it's even more debilitating to
those cities than just the raw numbers. April of twenty

(28:34):
twenty three versus April of twenty twenty two, the state
of New York was down forty percent in revenue. So
you may only lose five percent of your population, but
look at just basic income tax data. Yep, one percent
of earner's nationwide, and this is true in the cities

(28:56):
as well. Are paying Oh gosh, wait, hold on, and
I want to get this number right in the top
sj ordinary note it's incredibly high amount. I think it's
over twenty percent. You look that up, because I'll give
you this part. Less than over half of people. We
just had tax day last month. Over half of Americans
don't pay a single dollar in federal income tax. Because

(29:19):
you that's a staggering number, I think to a lot
of you out there listening again, let me repeat that
over half of Americans do not pay a single dollar
in federal income tax.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I keep getting this. I underestimate how crazy it is.
The top one percent of earners are paying over forty
percent of the income taxes, getting closer that's unbelievable to
fifty percent. So if you lose the five percent that
you're talking about a New York City, and of that

(29:51):
five percent you have a lot of people who are
in the one percent in terms of earnings, your city's
financials structure is destroyed. And I think that's what. I
think San Francisco is heading for this. I think New
York City is heading for this. I think they'll be
I think Chicago is heading for this. And the answer

(30:12):
that the left has the answer to these left wing democrat,
community activist lunatic party the answer they have for you
is more public services and raise taxes. Yeah, the exact
this is staring at a house fire and saying, let's
throw some Molotov cocktails in there.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
No, you're right, And this is where I come back to.
One of the stories I keep telling is the virtue
as circle. I use Google as an example. Every Google
search makes the Google machine better. All of these cities.
I saw these numbers over the weekend, Buck, and my
jaw drop. Seven and a half percent of San Francisco's population,
left five percent of New York City. And that's that

(30:50):
you gave. I bet, in conjunction with the one I gave,
has staggered a lot of people. Over half of Americans
don't pay a dollar in federal income tax and you
just said, Buck, the top one percent pays forty percent
of all federal income taxes. That is unbelievable. And what
is also happening now is if you're super wealthy, why

(31:13):
in the world, if your city is deteriorating, and if
your quality of life is collapsing in Chicago or New
York City or San Francisco or LA why would you
pay fifteen percent sometimes of your income for the privilege
of being able to live there. To the state and
local government, you would say, look, if you're making think

(31:36):
about this. Some of these big private equity guys they
make ten million a year, right, you make ten million
a year. You can put an extra one point three
million dollars in your pocket by living in Texas, by
living in Tennessee, by living in Florida. I think Nevada
has no state income tax. Why would you ever live

(31:56):
in a state that's taking that much more of your
hard earned cash when, frankly, you can live in a
better run state with people in government that you trust more.
This is this is a light bulb moment Covid was
I think Buck and I don't think this is going
to change. I think these big cities are going to
keep losing the highest earners and they're going to be

(32:21):
moving to these red states and they're going to be
funding their growth.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Think about it this way. Democrats outnumber Republicans. I mean
New York City went almost ninety percent roughly, we'll say
ninety percent for Biden the last election. It's eight to
one Democrat to Republican pretty consistently. San Francisco even more
than that. DC is getting close to ten to one. Now,

(32:46):
DC is a little different because of the federal federal
status of it, But you look at these other cities,
they have these icebergs of lunacy are going to take
a really long time to melt because they're one party
states now. So you're not even going to get the
chance to see a Republican coming into these places and
saying we're going to clean things up. We're going to

(33:09):
punish people who refuse to allow us to live in
an orderly and save society. We're going to clean up
the streets. We're going to cut back the massive welfare programs.
We're going to cut back on all the special status
and special money given to illegal immigrants in these places.
We're going to change the way we do business here.

(33:29):
And the problem that I see is before you get
to that, these cities are going to be hollowed out,
I mean, they're going to lose more and more people.
This trend is not going to stop. So this is
why I've been saying. I think that one part of
this that I underestimated was how much pain from bad
policies Democrats who control the politics and these cities are

(33:52):
are willing to live there. Look at the look at
the situation right now with you know, with the Jordan,
the Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny, right, Daniel Penny's facing
fifteen years for manslaughter charges. A city that takes someone
like Daniel Penny and says that we're going to lock
you up, possibly for anywhere from three to fifteen years
for doing something that eyewitness to say felt like it

(34:15):
was heroic at the time. That's not a place where
a lot of people are going to want to say,
I want to raise a family and I want but
AOC and the rest of the Democrat left lunatics, they
think it's great. They're all about it. So make your
decisions about this, folks, you see what's going on. Believe
the left when they tell you, when they show you
what they're all about and what they plan to do.

(34:37):
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Speaker 1 (35:40):
Make an appointment with the truth. Tune in every day
to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. I shared
this link yesterday. I'd encourage you guys to go read it,
especially if you work in a business that is bon woke,
because there is a front page article in the Monday

(36:00):
edition of The Wall Street Journal that dives in great
detail into the collapse of bud Light in the wake
of their decision to put a trans influencer on a
beer can as a part of a March Madness promotion.
And initially when people said, hey, we're going to fight

(36:22):
back against this, there was ridicule. There was the belief
nothing would happen. And in the chart that is included
in the bud Light article in the Wall Street Journal, Buck,
you can see that in the first week of May,
bud light consumption in this country is down twenty eight percent,

(36:44):
and every week it keeps getting worse. And you remember
first weekend in May. This is when I did my experiment,
and you were here with me in the Nashville area.
We were at a musical event and no one would
take a bud light. And what I am seeing when
I am out and about when I am in a bar,

(37:05):
when I'm in a restaurant, I'll ask, I'll say, hey,
how's bud light selling, And by and large, the servers
will say, nobody's ordering it. Now, I live in the
Nashville area, red state of Tennessee, so I'm not saying
that everything that I'm experiencing is representative. But when it's
down twenty eight percent nationwide, and now it's starting to

(37:27):
filter over to Mick Ultra and to Budweiser itself. And
Budweiser is deciding that they're going to have red, white,
and blue cans, and they're going to have a Harley
Davidson edition and they're going to have a camouflage edition.
They are desperately backpedaling over the fact that they insulted

(37:48):
the consumer base by and large of bud Light, not
just with that ad Buck, but also with their director
of marketing saying, yeah, we didn't really like the people
who were drinking bud Light. It was too frauty. There
was out of touch humor, and people are saying, well,
wait a minute. You know, relatively speaking, there's not that
much difference between bud Light, Coors Light, and let's say

(38:11):
Miller Lte And I understand some of our audience fervently
disagrees with me on this, Buck, but I will go
to the grave that if you were having nachos or
you're having a hot dog at a ball game, that
you just drinking out of a cup, cannot distinguish between
the taste of those three. And so this is now
the most success successful pushback we have ever seen on

(38:33):
any brand for going woke and directly undercutting their business.
And I believe we have audio it's important for you
to realize, and you mentioned this in the first hour
of the show. I think Buck, a lot of employee
employees out there are not in support of what bud
Light did, and a lot of distributors are not in
support because the way that Budweiser is distributed is with

(38:55):
different regional outposts all over the country and one of
the distributors down in Alabama he was fed up. Buck
listen to the ad that he took out directly to
attack what his company did.

Speaker 7 (39:07):
Listen, There's been a lot of discussion, frustration, and even
anger across the country regarding just one single can made
a bud Light that was produced for a social media influencer.
We too at Bama Buddwaserup said about it and have
made our feelings known to the top leadership at anhusse Cours.
We do not and as I said before, did not
support this issue involving Dylan mulvaney. There was one single

(39:28):
can made, was not for sale and wasn't properly approved.
As a result, the bud Light brand has new leadership.
Dylan mulvaney is not under contract with bud Light. The
videos you may have seen are Mulvaney's own social media
posts that went viral and meaning web based news outlets
have distorted the story. You deserve to know the truth
and life is too short to let a couple of
individuals decide which you can eat or drink or spend
your hard earned money on.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
So this guy has done a better job I think
of trying to deal with the situations obviously affecting him,
affecting his business. And as I was saying, I know
people who know so by you know, second order removed
from me, bud bud Light delivery guys, distributors, things like that,
and they're getting hurt by this. Your business is down
thirty percent. You got to think in terms of margins

(40:12):
and not just gross sales. If your business is down
thirty percent, you may be out of business in a
matter of time. It's not like you can sustain that.
And and so that's that's obviously something that hurts. But
I would just say this Anheuser Busch in bev, which
owns a bud Light brand, and the marketing people involved
with this, they didn't even after a couple of weeks,
they didn't say we're so sorry that we did this,

(40:35):
and we're never going to do this again, and we're
not gonna play this game. We just want to bring
you great beer. And this was crap. Did they even
fire anyone? I should notice, has it even been fired.
No one's been fired, No apology has been given, nothing
has been done.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
They are hoping all of you just.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Forget and start drinking bud Light again. Now, part of
that I think could be just a delusion, because they're
in the you know, the fog of corporate war right now,
they're on what they're doing. But I also think like
at some level it's because even still these companies Anheuser
Busch in Bev, like the big umbrella corporation that own

(41:15):
spun Light, I think they're more worried, even at this stage,
about upsetting the LGBTQ I A plus activists than they
are the people who drink their products. Yeah, and that's
why they're not willing to do the obviect. You and
I could sit down with the CEO of in Bev

(41:36):
and strategize this in ten minutes, and they would They
wouldn't make this cool problem go away overnight, but you
would see the curve start to go in the other direction.
People say all right, they'd come out with a statement,
and I think people would start to feel comfortable like
lesson learned. No one feels like lesson learned.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
What's the lesson? Learned that they think that we.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Have short attention spans, that they think that, you know,
maybe this time they got caught. Next time they'll do
it again. So this this is why, you know, I
think pedal to the metal. The pressure has to stay on.
And then that brings me to Target. Now this is
a tough one. Carrie, my wife loves Target. It's gone
there for so many years. There's a Target very near us.

(42:14):
I will tell you that Carrie took me to a
Target for the first time. Clay, I had never been
You'd never been in a Target before.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Not until the last twelve months. That's really fine. I
had never been to a Target before. I'm an Amazon
dot com guy. But you know Target is selling these
bathing suits, yeah, that have like a a how do
we even like a top top? Don't a tuck pouch?
I think it's called women's bathing suits ostensibly that allow

(42:46):
and quotation mark women to hide their penises. I mean,
I I just I can't even believe that this is real,
that a place like Target that there would be First
of all, there can't be that much demand for this, right, Like,
how many dudes with penises are really wearing women's bathing
suits on he like, what is the market cap? Like?

(43:07):
How much money can you possibly make selling women's bathing
suit with penis holes for them? So if Target is
selling is selling weiener Hider bathing suits, we hider like
a worst hot dog ever selling, They're selling hot dog hammocks.
I mean they're selling situations here that are not good

(43:29):
uh for you know, we see what's going on, and
I wonder, okay, so are people going to take you know,
is it just a bud light? I just can't stop.
I just can't stop thinking buck that somehow we've gone
from women buying their bathing suits and worrying does this
make me look fat? Is are my boobs showing too much?

(43:53):
Is my nipple gonna pop out too? Are you going
to be able to see my penis? Like? This is
what we're trying to say that women are thinking. Now
they've gone from do I look fat in this bathing suit?
To will my Uh I'm trying to use.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
The words this is this is at some level, it's
a violation of the true ethos of transgenderism. Isn't that
you should have to hide the male penis. It's that
when you're transgender, the penis is actually a vagina, so
why hide it in.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
The first place.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
We're just supposed to believe this is a vagina because
it's a woman, and that's the way this goes. So
I feel like they're trying to have it both ways,
which I suppose is not surprising. You're talking about the
transgender situation, but are people going to take action against
target claus?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Should you should? I think look, people say, Okay, where
does this all lead? And I get it if you're frustrated,
You're like, man, I just want to have a beer.
I just want to go buy a bathing suit. I
don't want to have to make calculated political decisions every
time I want to get a hamburger or you want
to go, like I said, just to go get a beer.

(44:56):
I think that the reason why this bud light reaction
is important buck is I think right now, for the
first time ever, there are marketing meetings at every big
brand in America and they are saying, hey, let's make
sure that we don't get bud lighted, that we don't
destroy our brand because we're too woke. And they've never

(45:17):
had that discussion before in the history of pretty much
any brand in America. You know, I have a friend
who works at a high level corporate comms firm, and
I remember I spoke to him, you know, off the record,
or you know, without attribution whatever, with different things. Without
attribution is you can talk about what you said, but
you can't say who said it. Just two friends talking though.

(45:37):
We'll put it that way. About how shocked some of
the corporate comms shops were over the willingness to fight
with Disney from Ron de Santis. Yeah, and how that.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Was a little that was a warning shot. And now
with bud Light, this is the heavy artillery has come in.
It's a whole different level.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I'm glad you mentioned that Disney thing because Disney won't
acknowledge it. But for much of this year, the last
calendar year, and certainly the last fiscal year, Disney's been
losing subscribers to Disney Plus. And I don't think a
lot of people have recognized it because remember, the corporate
press doesn't want to acknowledge when a quote unquote conservative

(46:22):
boycott works because they don't want to give conservatives power
in the marketplace. I think Disney is losing a lot
right now in streaming. We'll talk about that a little
bit more as we close out hour too. Oh, don't worry,
the new Little Mermaid's gonna make billions of No, it's not, no,
it's not folks. We'll talk more.

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