January 10, 2024 • 55 mins
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now
technically the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, but we
like Clay and Buck two. We've got a lot to
talk about tonight. You know this, there's some political throwdowns
in the making. You have Ron DeSantis versus Nicky Haley
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up on stage at CNN. On Fox News. On the
other side of the dial, you're going to have a
Trump town hall. Trump will be going into Iowa as
a candidate who has not appeared at a single debate,
and the people that are all in on Trump would say,
look at that strategy. Hasn't exactly slowed him down, has it.
(01:23):
But we'll talk a little bit. I think about some
last minute Iowa possibilities, and we know we're just a
few days away a Monday will be the Iowa Caucuses.
Also a story that's getting a lot of attention on
the immigration front. You've got New York City high school students,
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about two thousand of them, forced into remote learning because
New York City's getting hit by a storm and they
have to move thousands of illegal migrants into the high
school that these kids thought that they were going to
as a high school. So they're now doing remote learning
for a few days. It just shows you both the
(02:06):
priorities where they're placed and the resource strain that that
city's under illegal immigration very much In the Spotlight Clay,
there's more also on the mysterious few days of the
Biden regime, neither knowing nor caring where it's Secretary of
Defense Lloyd Austin was. Steve Doocy, did you see that throwdown,
(02:28):
Steve Great? Yeah, really flustered Admiral Kirby By just saying,
why should we listen to you guys if you're gonna
lie about something like that. We'll get to that a
little bit. Also, some follow up on the Alaska Airlines flight.
If you saw that that lost a piece of the
fuselage like a window basically disappeared. And then Fauci on
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kids suffering learning loss. We will take Fauci to task
for being the lab coat stalin that he is. But Clay,
I wasn't expecting this one on my bingo card, so
to speak. You had Hunter Biden today making a surprise
appearance during a contempt of Congress hearing, and he is
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being health in contempt, right, or rather that's the point
of the hearing. He shows up, sits in the front
row with his lawyer, Abby Lowell, doesn't say anything. Congress erupts,
you know what's going on here? I guess he just
figures God to play this out in the court of
public opinion instead of the actual court or well in Congress.
I suppose. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I'm trying to work through it from a because really,
as with Trump, you're dealing with a simultaneous political and
legal issue, and sometimes the political moves are not the
moves that a lawyer would suggest, and vice versa, and
so there. The Democrats are actually in a really difficult
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spot with Hunter Biden right now because when he didn't
show up for his deposition. If you follow the precedent
of Steve Bannon, who was prosecuted for refusing to comply
with a congressional subpoena and provide testimony, and I believe
it's currently waiting sentencing or there's an appeal. I mean,
he was convicted in a DC court for refusing to
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comply with a congressional subpoena, and Democrats made a big deal.
They're all on the record as saying, you have to
show up when you have a congressional subpoena.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
This is a very serious issue.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If you don't comply with congressional subpoenas, you should be
prosecuted and you should have consequences under the law. My
bet is that Hunter is going to try to argue
from a legal perspective and that this undergirds the politics
of what he's done by showing up twice on Capitol Hill,
once the first time on the day he was scheduled
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to testify, to having the press conference outside, saying he
happy to do it, but he wants to do it
in public, which is the way the second part of
House testimony, congressional testimony works. I think, Buck, they're going
to try to argue that he's not in the same
boat as Steve Bannon because he's willing to testify. There's
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just a dispute over how that testimony should be taking place.
But as a matter of law, I think Republicans should
refer hold him in contempt and refer this to Merrick
Garland and put this on the plate of the Attorney
General and say why does Hunter Biden not get the
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same treatment as Steve Bannon for refusing to apply with
a subpoena? And then I think big picture, and I'm
curious how you would analyze this, Buck, I think, big picture,
this thing's not going away for Joe Biden. And this
was why refusing to sign off on that sweetheart deal
with such a big deal. Everybody's got to talk about
a Hunter Biden again now because he showed up like this.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They were this close the stroke of a pen from
a judge for making the entire Hunter Biden thing completely
go away, as though it had never happened before this close,
and they thought they were going to get it too.
I think what Hunter's doing here, he's, in a sense,
taking a page from the Trump playbook. The difference is
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Hunter's actually committed like dozens and dozens of obvious crimes
and Trump they're prosecuting because they hate him. But he's
effectively showing up as in a defiant I don't recognize
the jurisdiction of this show trial. You know what I mean.
It's meant to be. It's meant to be Hunter Biden
giving Democrats a show of defiance so they can tell
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themselves the obvious lies that we've heard, things like, oh,
Hunter's only being prosecuted because he's Joe Biden's son. That's
the opposite of the truth. He's only not sitting in
prison because he's Joe Biden's son. Right, It's actually in
the in the complete opposite direction. And I think, but
you see what Nancy Mace said, Yeah, she says, you
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have no I think we have that audio? Do we do?
Do we have these audio? We have the Nancy Mace
audio one rip.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
My first question is who bribed Hunter Biden to be
here today?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That's my first question.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Second question, You are the epitome of white privilege coming
into the Oversight Committee, spitting in our face, ignoring a
congressional subpoena to be deposed. What are you afraid of?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You have no balls to.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Come up here, mister chairman, point of inquiry, Mister chairman,
lay general. If the general lady wants to hear from
Hunter Biden, we can hear from him right now, Miss chairman,
Let's take a vote and hear from unter Biden?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Are speaking?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Are women allowed to speaking?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
To keep interrupting me, I'll interrupt.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know that he's a lady.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think that, uh that Hunter Biden should be arrested
right here, right now and go straight to jail.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Straight to jail, straight to jail. She wants to send it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think we also have Hunter Biden storming out when
Marjorie Taylor Green is recognized to speak at the hearing, me,
this all just happened. I'll tell you what I would advise,
purely from a legal perspective, in a sec here two back,
but listen to cut two.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Cher recognized Miss Green from Georgia for thank you, mister chairman.
Excuse me, Hunter, Apparently you're afraid of my.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Words, and why you.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
All?
Speaker 7 (08:36):
I like to reclaim my time, mister chairman the bubble.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Wow, that's too bad.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
I think it's clear and obvious for everyone watching this
hearing today that Hunter Biden is terrified of strong conservative
Republican women because he can't even face my words as
I was about to speak to him.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What a coward. I gotta get the title to Nancy
Mace on this one. I'm just gonna say she went
a little harder.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Here's my legal analysis. I don't understand why Hunter Biden
didn't just show up and take the fifth because it
feels to me like one of the challenges of being
a lawyer is sometimes your client's an idiot and he
wants to fight, even when fighting is the bad advice.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He is effectively challenging Congress in this case, obviously the
Republicans in Congress in a way.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That under he could be I don't even know where
they put him. They have like their own jail in
the House of Representatives. It doesn't really happen, so we
don't know, but that has happened since the eighteen thirties
I was reading about this. They have the legal authority
to actually arrest him for refusing to comply with the subpoena.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
No, it used to be that they would remove members
of Congress and even federal judges for like drunkenness on
the bench. I mean, if you go back into American history,
there's some crazy stuff that we don't even remember anymore.
But the point about Hunter here, Clay is he is
he is visually publicly undermining the entire this I'm saying
what his strategy is undermining the process. To say this
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whole thing is a sham, it would be like walking
into a criminal court and saying to the judge, you know,
I don't recognize your jurisdiction in this matter. Now the
judge's gonna throw your butt in prison. That's not happening
here because they're not gonna do it. And and I
think they Hunter needs a narrative of he's a martyr
and they're only going after him because he's Joe Biden's son.
(10:39):
I know, everyone in this audience laughs. That's absurd. Of course,
it's absurd, But it gives them the cover, right, It
gives them enough leeway that that takes a little bit
of this of the stinging out of this. Politically for
the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I think that this is blowing up in the Democrats' faces,
and I think one of the challenges don't talk us
hunters perspective, you know, yeah, yeah, But I think one
of the argument you'll hear is that Joe Biden's advisors
have difficulty talking to him about Hunter because this is
according to the stories that have been written, he gets
so emotional he won't talk about it in a rational fashion.
(11:17):
I think that every time a Hunter shows up and
engages in historyonics and theatrics like this, it just shines
a spotlight on the fact that he didn't pay his taxes,
and there are more people out there who become aware
of Hunter Biden. Remember everybody in our audience, we all
know this Hunter Biden story. There's a lot of people
out there in America who bought into the idea that
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this was all trumped up, that there was nothing to it.
And every time the media has to talk about these
Hunter Biden things, it's hard to argue to being unfairly
treated when you didn't pay millions of dollars in taxes.
I mean, this is not a complicated story for most Americans.
I think to understand, Hunter looks like what he is.
Every time he does this a spoiled, entitled brat who
believes rules don't apply to him.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There are a lot of things where we could still
feel like we have to say, you know, alleged, or
we know about the tax issue. He was going to
plead guilty on the tax issue, and that's what you
did or you didn't, right, I mean, you know you
either paid or you didn't pay. He's never said that
he paid the taxes. He obviously didn't pay the taxes.
He had to pay massive fines already as a result
of that. I think it's it's interesting to see though,
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when they say that Joe Biden obviously he's upset about it.
It's his son. But Hunter's not going to prison. I'm
going to tell everybody this right now because it's and
this probably isn't anything that anyone wants to hear. Not
only is Hunter Biden not going to prison, he will
have this all wiped away and he'll be a rich
guy again by this time next year, or be on
the way to being a rich guy again. Because what's
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the downside for him? As much as we sit here,
Clay and look at what a clown he isn't here
here's the this is cut three this is this reporter.
This is the kind of question that hunter Biden's getting
these days. Play three, did you please? I'll answer your
question if you beat quiet. Let me make a stake
a crack you normally smoke, mister Biden. Have you heard that?
What kind of crack do you normally smoke? Mister Biden?
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Now of crack?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
By the way, I don't even know, do you know
I'm not up to speed. I'm very happy to know.
I'm very happy to not know the answer to that
question at all. Although it is funny that that's kind
of what a laughingstock has become.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, I think we'll get into
some of this. What do you guys think is going
on with this? Eight hundred and two eight two two
eight eight two. We will take your calls on it.
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Speaker 8 (14:35):
Your kids are supposed to go to school and then
someone tells you, sorry, your kids have to stay home.
Why is there some type of real significant storm or
some emergency, or was there a flu outbreak?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, why are they having to stay home?
Speaker 8 (14:48):
They're having to stay home because the state government is
commandeering or the city government is commandeering the school to
house illegal aliens. You talk about putting Americans last.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're having these kids.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
You're depriving these kids of in person education to be
able to house people that don't have a right to
be here to begin with. That's Joe Biden's America in
a nutshell.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So that was Florida Governor Rohn DeSantis at a town
hall last night in Iowa talking about the situation in
New York City. Right now, you got around two thousand people.
Two thousand people have been moved from a tent shelter
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on a Floyd Floyd Bennett Field, the former airplane runway
in southern Brooklyn. They moved because of heavy storms expected,
so they shut down a high school to move the
migrants into. You know, a couple of things on this
one play. You know, one thing that I think people
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are understanding now more than ever is that the migrant population,
especially when it congregates, particularly in one city, it comes
with considerable expense to the taxpayer. And you also recognize
that this is a little bit like a mobile refugee camp.
I mean that is what asylum seekers are a form
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of refugee. So when you have ten cities in New
York for the migrants, it is a refugee camp. And
when they show you what their priorities are, meaning the
city of New York, that instead of finding some way
to house these migrants that does not displace all these kids,
they go, oh, just stay home. You know. Now all
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these parents at this high school to have to deal
with with the displacement. It makes all of this real
to people. And then when you start to look at
what the numbers are, it's about seven million, six point
eight million, I think is the official number right now.
It's going to be more like eight million by the
or seven million, nine hundred thousand there we go or elsewhere.
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And their call was in tremendous disruption and resource usage
and what exactly are we getting for all of this,
and what is the Biden administration going to do about it?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I think it also crystallizes who bears the cost when illegal.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Immigrants are coming into the country.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's very often the people who are at the bottom
of the food chain in the first place. I think
I saw that two thirds of the students that are
being kicked out of this school are on free or
reduced lunch at that school in New York. So much
like with COVID, when if you were fortunate enough to
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live in a neighborhood in a county and a community
that stayed open, I was.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Your kids got to go to school.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
If you were unfortunate enough to live in predominantly blue cities,
your kids were out of school for almost two years
in some of these places, and the kids that were
out of school were the poorest among us. So it's
very easy when you are rich comparatively, and you get
to work from home, and you sit in with the
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laptop in your lap, and you work for a couple
of hours, then you pop on Netflix, then you hit
the gym, have a nice little lunch, then you come
back and tune in for another hour to sit around
and say, oh, let's have lockdowns. Oh these are illegal immigrants,
let's support them. But I think what you're seeing Buck.
Do you remember when in Chicago they kicked kids out
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who were playing football from their locker room and their
gym to give it over to illegal immigrants, And there
was a big protest in Chicago from that local community saying,
wait a minute, these kids are sports are helping to
keep them on the straight and narrow, giving them an
opportunity to focus on something to have coaches and a
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reason sometimes to stay in school. And suddenly the illegal
immigrants get it in New York City. Remember when they
took over the soccer fields I believe in Brooklyn and
put up to housing and suddenly the kids can't go
play soccer anymore because they took over the park and
they're giving it over to illegal immigrants. What a lot
of people who hadn't given much thought to this are
suddenly realizing is there are only so many resources. And
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when you are a high tax community that is losing residents,
as New York is, you're not able to provide the
same services to everyone that you might have been in
the past. And you know who gets the short end
of it, poor citizens, in favor of illegals. And I
think that's resonating in big cities in a way that
maybe it hasn't in past years with the immigrant crisis.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I feel like I keep saying it, but it just
it's it's almost unfathomable to me that the City of
New York, my hometown, is planning a forty percent reduction
in street trash can pick up. Yeah, well that's just
gonna be You're gonna have Oh, you're gonna have overflowing
trash cans everywhere. You're gonna have people just throwing their
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trash all over the streets. New York City is going
to in the next year really closely resemble a third
World country on the streets because of all the trash
that's gonna happen. And people are saying, well, why are
they doing this? Budget cuts to your point, Clay, because
they're spending billions of dollars. It turns out when you
have one hundred thousand people and you're providing all of
their food, all of their housing, all their medical care
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in addition to whatever you were spending before that things
can get really expensive. Never mind the fact that they
were putting some of these migrants up in four star
hotels for weeks on end. The whole thing is absurd.
Find me another country that would do any of this
Before people start saying, oh, the migrants, they need this,
and if you don't like it, you're racist. What other
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country does this? What other country shuts down their local
high school so that they can have mind? By the way,
if you tell me the country, I'm gonna say, yeah,
and how's that working out for them? There might be
a couple in Europe. It's not going very well.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And the other thing on this is, and it's important
for you to understand. If you're out there and you're saying, well,
I don't really care what's going on in New York City,
you know, they can make their own decisions. This is
you know, make them their sanctuary cities. Let's make them
deal with it. You know what they're trying to do too.
And this is a big part. They want Joe Biden
to give them billions of dollars to pay for all this.
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That money comes from you and me, taxpayers that are
not in New York City or Chicago or DC.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This is where they're headed. They want to bailout. It's
a federal problem as far as Democrats are concerned. Remember,
the federal government is using the force of law to
stop the State of Texas from enforcing the law. The
federal government would I mean this would be like, you know,
those who work in law enforcement I'm talking about imagine
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if you were like a high pursuit chase. You know,
you're you're an FBI guy. Hey we got this guy.
He's a kidnapper. He's in a car. And if you
go to like the state trooper, you know, I, you know,
can you can you give me assistance on this one?
And he goes nah kah and no, no assistance. You'd say,
what's going on, like are we enforced the law here
or not? You have the federal government doesn't want help
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in this case. They don't actually want assistance, and they
will prevent assistance from coming to them. And then on
the backside of this, they're going to say, well, because
it's only a federal problem, everyone has to pay for this.
So if you're listening to us right now and you're like, well,
we don't have that many migrants in Nebraska, and by
the way, I have no idea. Maybe there is a
big population there of migrant, but you know, we don't
have that many migrants in Oklahoma. These days, your federal
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tax dollars are going to go to bail out New
York City to the tune of billions of dollars if
the Democrats can get away with it.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That is the plan, one hundred billion percent to plan.
And this is one of this is why Joe Biden
is polling worst. Of all the issues that are out there,
this is the one that is resonating the most, I
think with the Americans across the political landscape, and look
at who's protesting.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A lot of this.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
These are majority black Hispanic schools kids that are getting
kicked out, and suddenly black and Hispanic parents are saying,
wait a minute, how in the world is this happening?
How are my kids coming off of COVID? And when
we know, despite what Fauci's trying to argue, when we know,
by the way, how incredibly disadvantaged kids were by shutting
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down schools. All of a sudden, they're going to shut
down schools again and make these kids go to remote learning.
And we all know that remote learning is an oxymoron
because for the most part doesn't really exist. I just
the chickens are coming home to roost here and I
don't know what the pathway out is for the Biden
administration at this point time. By the way, we'll take
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some of your calls eight hundred and two to two
eight A two as we continue to roll through the
Wednesday edition of the program. Also curious how people will
break down their viewing habits. You were talking about this
with me off air. How many of you out there
will watch DeSantis versus NICKI Haley on CNN, and we
should also mention I'll come back and bring us back
in talking about this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Donald Trump appearing.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Live on Fox News for the first time since April
twenty twenty two, with his own counter programming going on
head to head against the Santas and Nicky Haley. I'm
curious what those ratings will look like for Donald Trump
with his town hall as he continues to not be
involved in the debate process at all in the meantime.
And I think, by the way, Buck, this will be
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the first time that Donald Trump has been live on
television since May when he did that CNN town hall
which basically blew up all of CNN and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Got the head of CNN fire.
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Speaker 3 (25:25):
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On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
The third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, everybody,
and you know, one of the things that we always
try to do here is get you answers to questions. Right,
we ask questions. There are things out there that you
figure out what's going on. We started off the show
talking a little bit about what's happening in New York
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City where they are kicking kids out of their school,
out of a New York City high school to make
room for a couple thousand migrants who you would think
wouldn't necessarily get priority here because they're not really supposed
to be in the country in the first place. They
entered illegally and are now theoretically waiting for asylum claims
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to be adjudicated. Clay pointed this out earlier in the
week that I think it's now they're looking at twenty
thirty three or twenty thirty two or something for when
the actual claims will be. People are getting court appearing
into the twenty thirties. Win the twenty thirty post to
show up. So just for everybody out there thinking.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Imagine trying to predict your own life seven years from now,
it's the whole thing is absurd, but it shows you
that it's a total scam and.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
This is causing a little bit of a problem, you know.
Clay read before Also the numbers out of Michigan, the
polling numbers out of Michigan, suggesting that immigration is a
major issue there. Illegal immigration is a major issue there. Well,
Biden regime recognizes that they got a problem because it
looks really bad. Six point eight million already eight million
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predicted illegals in this country in Biden's first term. The
greatest acceleration of illegal entry into the United States in
history has occurred in Joe Biden's first three years, and
it's not going to stop his fourth year. Corrine Jeanpierre
was asked a question about this one. This is cut
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twenty five, and here's what she's saying about New York
City kicking kids out of school for migrants.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
And as it relates to this particular question that you're
asking me about New York City, that is something that
New York City needs the answers to. That is a
process that they took, so they have to answer to that.
And as it relates to migrants and what's happening at
the border. Look, the President has taken this issue very seriously,
very seriously by making sure that on his first day,
which is almost three years it will be a couple
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of weeks, will be three years ago, that he put
forward a comprehensive immigration legislation to deal with what's happening
with the immigration process obviously and also of the border.
And this is an issue that's been going on for decades.
The system has been broken for decades, and the President
is the one who has taken action to deal with this.
While House Republicans.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Do not it's just all the same talking points we've
heard for a very long time. I would note Clay
first of all, when she says comprehensive immigration reform, When
Democrats use that term, they mean I need everyone to
listen up. And I think all of you know this,
but it's important that we reiterated they need amnesty. Okay,
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that the only immigration reform that is certain that they
want is amnesty. Everything else is just make believe. It's
window dressing around the problem. It's not actually going to
do anything, and they won't actually enforce any provisions or
restrictions that they say they will. But also notice how
they've gone from doing the jobs Americans won't do play
to we need. You know, Nancy Pelosi is saying, you know,
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we have an obligation to give these people asylum. We
actually don't, and we did have an obligation to take
in illegals to do jobs that they were going to
be undercutting the wages of American workers for. She's not
being honest. I know that many of you out there
are going to say, of course she's not.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
But if you go back and look, we've never had
this many people cross our southern border illegally in any
of your lives than has happened since Joe Biden took office.
And I think it's important to point out that many
of the people crossing the southern border are not doing
it from Mexico, because for a lot of us out there,
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this is the way we think about illegal immigration. We're like, oh,
those are just people coming over from Mexico, And that
has been commonplace in the year's past, in the decades
past that she's referenced, But a lot of the time
then people would cross over for seasonal work and then
they would go back home. And this is important because
it ties in with the asylum claims not being heard
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until after twenty thirty. Now, so many people are coming
into the country from so far are away now that
they can never.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Go back to their home country.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
If you were, let's say, in nineteen eighty six, coming
across the southern border because you were going to engage
in say, let's say, picking strawberries or helping to harvest
food in a seasonal basis, you tended to go back
across the border. Now, if you're coming, you're coming from
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so far away that you're never going to go back
to your home country I was reading yesterday or the
day before, We're seeing Africans.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Think about how crazy this is.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
We are seeing Africans, not African Americans, Africans people from Africa.
We are seeing them travel all the way to South
America to come to the United States now, tens of
thousands of them, because it's easier for them to get
into the United States than Europe.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I understand everybody's not an expert in the globe, right,
like everybody, just think about when you are traveling that
far from Africa to a new continent here, to go
to a different point. It's easier to get into the
United States from Africa than it is Europe. And Europe's
got all sorts of immigration issues itself. That's how bad
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it is.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You'd much rather be an illegal in America than you
would these days in Italy, in Greece, in Spain. There's
increasing pushback in those countries on these issues. They you know,
here in America, we take the attitude of we're gonna
We're gonna take care of of everything that needs taken
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care of for anyone who's here illegal or not. Now
we could have a whole discussion about that, but the
point is it's a better deal for people. You know,
if you were coming from you know, if you were
coming from the Central African Republic. Let's say Europe's a
whole lot closer to your point. But it's a better
option to get into America because you're very likely going
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to be able to do it, you're very likely going
to be able to stay. So when they say that
New York City has to answer for this, no, really,
it's a federal problem. I mean, that's a dodge. When
Karine Jean Pierre says this is all about what the
City of New York is doing, the truth is this
is all a you know, the Bide administration shows everybody
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what they're really all about when they prevent Texas from
helping them secure the border. And we also need to
redefine some of these terms. What does border security mean?
It has to mean if you weren't coming here through
a legal process, you are immediately turned away from the country.
The way it works now is people illegally enter, not
at a port of entry, then they claim defensive asylum. The
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cartels coach them on how to do this. They pay money,
they get a little bracelet, they say, oh I have
a credible fear of my of violence in my country.
It's a joke. The credible fear of screening process. The
numbers just came out. I think it's eighty five percent
of people who enter illegally get to say, you got
an over eight out of ten chance. And then once
you're in the country, there's no interior enforcement. You have
to fear whatsoever because there's no deportations. So when people
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say as secure border, it doesn't mean that you have
more people waving everybody in and handing out sandwiches and
saying welcome to America. It means stopping people from coming
into the country and expelling those in the country illegally
or else. Everything is just we're just wasting our time.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What it also does buck in addition to yes, this
is the Democrat game plan.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
They lie.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
They say that nothing's changed, the incentive culture, which we've
talked about here you can get a job and you
can make a lot more money than you would in
your home country. It also destroys the argument that America
is a systemically racist country because over fifty thousand people
are fleeing Africa. Africa is almost entirely black, right, almost
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entirely black rulers.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
But the left makes an even the argument is even
more even more upset that Clay, because it's not just
that we're not a racist country. The argument that the
left makes in this country, and really the sort of
global no borders, you know, internationalist view, is America owes
this to all these countries because of our exploitation of
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the developing world, because of our climate CO two profile,
because of you know, the history of colonialism. Right. So
to your point, they're coming here because obviously it's like
not really that racist, but the mentality of the people
arriving is you owe this to us, and the Democrat
left in this country tells them that. So that's right.
People have to pay this up, pay this you know, forward,
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or whatever. They got to do what they got to do,
which is.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Why I tie this all in with the DEI universe
in general. Think about the world that democrats have created.
You have people who are illegally entering the country. Let's say,
I think the New York Times just reported that in
the last year, over fifty thousand thousand Africans traveled from
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Africa to Latin America to make their way into the
United States. So it's easier to get to the United
States from Africa illegally than it is into Europe. They're
then going to be here for seven years. Let's say
they have a kid, so they don't have a kid.
They can get a job based on the legacy of racism,
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despite never having had anything at all to do with
American history and racism at all. In fact, the biggest
beneficiaries if you look at a lot of these so
called elite colleges.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I think we've talked about this on the show before.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
The black students that are being admitted, a huge percentage
of them never were the ideas, oh, we've got to
redress past American racial discrimination. A huge percentage of them
and their families were never here when the racial discrimination
even happened. I mean overwhelmingly, the number of kids that
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are going in to these elite schools are kids whose
parents were highly educated in potentially other countries. Let's say
your dad and mom got a doctorate in Nigeria, you
come to this country, you get raised as an American,
and then you benefit off of the racial spoil system,
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despite the fact that there's no connection whatsoever your family
has to any legacy of discrimination in America at all.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's just it's the same. It's it's the politics of envy.
It's replacing class class warfare that the communists used to
take them out contents of a society and turn turn
them against everybody else and turn the society upside down
with this creation of the systemic racism myth in this country.
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America was at one point, obviously, and it has a
history of having racism in the past, but that is
no longer the case. And you know, with the argument
that's being made by people today about things like the
systemic racism in America, you'd have to say, what is
in America that that they would admit is not systemically
racists look like? And you have to wonder because if
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they're going to start saying, well, would have to be
equal representation in the following fields, the following wealth categories,
the following criminal justice categories. You'd say, so you're actually
just talking about quotas well. They've tried quota systems and
other countries around the world based along racial lines, and
it works very, very poorly. It is a very bad
idea because it's inherently a wrong idea and an unjust idea.
(37:32):
But they'll never just accept, well, if the law is
if the law is acceptable, the law is neutral, and
you know, even beyond that, the American people are despite
what the media pretends. And that graph, everyone should see it,
like everyone should have it printed out and keep it
in their desks somewhere, the graph of the media deciding
in was it twenty sixteen, was it with Trump or
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was it might have been before that.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
If you or two of them that twenty thirteen fourteen
is between the white supreme he suddenly just stow the
show up everywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's right. Barack Obama goes into a second term and
it's all about white supremacy in the media all the time.
That's what they're talking about. And they have actually tried
to redefine white supremacy to be things that are entirely
innocuous and you say, wait, that's not white supremacy. You know,
had these there have been these discussions before. I think
Vivek even brought up actually recently with that reporter. Remember
when he had that throwdown with the the very you know,
(38:24):
intellectually limited reporter, and he said, is being on time
a form of white supremacy because some of the biggest
advocates of systemic racism claim that it is Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Terminology says a two parent household is white supremacy, which.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Is all of it is. It's actually so crazy and
so offensive. But that is where the left took this
and and that is you know, the continuation of their logic.
And it's because it's all rooted in a faulty principle.
And we can either we can either stop discriminating by
race or we're going to continue to scrim by race. Right,
this is you can whatever you try to fill in
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as the as the you know, the the on the
X y axis of this, it doesn't change that you're
either discriminating by race or you're not. And you can
either stop doing it or you're going to keep doing it.
And that's the that's the simple reality I think of
race in America today. But the Democrat Party is built on,
more than anything else, the identity politics framework. So that's why, Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (40:53):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. While I
believe that Trump if the election were today, I think
he would win comfortably.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Ten months out, Buck not so confident.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
There obviously is voting taking place for the first time
on Monday. So everybody out there who's like, Trump's not
even gonna be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
That's the voice that I hear.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I don't usually do voices, Buck, but that's the voice
my favorite.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, well, you gotta do voices more often. That that is.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
That is the way that I hear everyone whoever goes
on social media and disagrees. Everybody who disagrees like that
about who's gonna be the nominee? That is the voice
that I hear. Every one of your tweets, right, every
one of your emails. Ron de Santos is gonna this.
Now I'm changing voices.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Ron de Santus is gonna win. I will by ten points.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
You're gonna see, Clay, You're gonna be crying. And then simultaneously,
the next tweet that rolls in will be I don't
know why you hate Donald Trump so much. In fact,
I was reading the emails. I don't know how often
you read these emails, but Buck, this came in. This
is one of our VIPs I wanted to give. I'm
flagged this because I thought it would be fun to read.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Bill wrote in Buck, and he said, Clay, I just
want you to know how hypocritical you sound. You don't
want Trump to win because there will be riots.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
What Democrat paid you off? I know you. This is Bill.
This is what Bill wrote.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I know you will never be affected by the bidenomics.
You are an elitist and have no idea what the
ordinary worker is going through. Your mindset is like the
chaotic music that you play in the beginning of your show.
This is Bill. This is where you're headed.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Buck. By the way, I mean, it's one thing. It's
one thing to say you're a paid agent of Biden,
but to mess with our theme song, Bill, Bill, come on,
you gotta give it a chance. Bill's not even done.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Bill just brought like a you know, a automatic firing.
He's taken out everything. Bill continued, Buck, So I'm a hypocrite.
I don't want Trump to win because there will be riots.
I'm being paid off by Democrats. I'm an elitist that
has picked awful music to play on the show.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
It continues Bill.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That's all what Bill said, and then he makes a
pivot here, Buck, I swear this is directly from the VIP.
As far as the College National Championship comments you.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Made, Oh what? This is a lot of range for Bill.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Bill legitimately hates everything that I have said on any subject.
So Bill went from you're paid by the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I hate you. You're an elitist.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Your music sucks to then he pivots as far as
the College National Championship comments you made. Remember, it's easy
to win when you can recruit the way Harbaugh did.
The top named colleges have been doing it for years. Heroes.
One last thing, you act and talk like the rhino
you are. So Bill just served me from top to
(44:08):
bottom all day. And the reason, first of all, this
amazing email. I appreciate Bill, thankful for him listening, disagreeing
with everything that I've said, also not really understanding anything
that I've said, but that's a whole nother story. Simultaneously
and you get this, tu Buc you can be as
we get closer.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
To the primary. And this is this is where it's
very much like sports.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
You can simultaneously, in the mind of people who are
die hard Rond de Santa supporters, be a die hard
Donald Trump supporter who is indefensibly biased, and in the
mind of a Trump supporter, you can simultaneously be a
die hard Rond de Santa supporter who doesn't believe that
(44:53):
things that Trump I'm paid to try to keep Trump
from being elected.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I think the mission statement here should should always be clear,
and it's want what's best for the country. A Republican
defeating Joe Biden is what's best for the country. I
don't know. I don't think anybody can really know at
this point what the Democrats have fully planned. But we
want the best Republican candidate we can have who wins
(45:17):
this primary is going to be up against what I
think is going to be a mailstream of a whole
range of things, lies, cheating, Democrat apparatus funding, you know,
social media tilting the scale. But you know, it is
possible to sit here and say and I think it's
I try to be very honest about this. I think
you try to be very honest about this, Clay. I
thought Donald Trump did a did a good job when
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he was president. I think that Ron DeSantis has done
a a plus job as governor of Florida. I think
that Vivek Ramaswami has made quite a name for himself
and been a very interesting component of the debates and
the discussion. He's not I don't think that he's really
gotten much in the way of polling numbers. But you know,
and then Nick Haley, I start to get a little
(46:01):
I tend to be a little critical, more critical of
her stated positions. And then we even get to and
I can say why, But I just think, as somebody
who spent some time in Iraq and some time in
Afghanistan during those wars and saw what our war fighters
were doing and what they were up against, and what
the mission was, and saw the intelligence at the highest levels,
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there were big problems with the strategies. There were big
problems with that, and we saw this with the Biden
disastrous withdrawal out of Afghanistan. But at least but look,
if it's Nicky Haley or Joe Biden, yeah, I'd rather
have Nicki Haley obviously, So if she became the nominee,
IW it'd sport her. Chris Christie and I used to
like Christy. I mean, look, I sit here and say,
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I'm a former Romney voter. Everybody, I voted for Mitt
Romney in twenty twelve, and I got to live with that.
But I mean I was Mitt Romney or Barack Obama.
It's one of the best things that ramsrald Ever said.
You go to war with the army you have. I
know which army I want to win and on which
side I want to win. I just don't ness know
(47:03):
who the general is going to be. Chris Christy. I'm
a little worried though he's gone to the like he's
gone to the dark side. Like I'm a little worried
Chris Christi. The force has has left him and he
is now turning into like Christi Vader or you know
something like that. I've got Saurron has gotten him with
the ring I've got a Chris Christy quote for you
that you haven't seen yet or heard, and let me
(47:25):
just say this, I would say the biggest pivot for
me during the course of this Republican campaign for the
primary as people get ready to vote five days from now.
I really believe and I've said this. I think for
a couple of months now, the story to me has
shifted from who's the most likely to beat Biden to
if Biden is the nominee, then I think Ron DeSantis,
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Nikki Hayley, Vivek Ramaswami, and Donald Trump. I legitimately believe this.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I think if all for any of those four guys
and or Gal were the nominee, I think that they
would all beat Biden. And I think Democrats are slowly
coming to the I really do.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I think you are underestimating the Democrat death star here.
I really do. I do I think that we can run.
I'm really going with the analogies here, or the metaphors, analogies, whatever,
going with the X wing. Can we hit the death Star?
Yes we can. We can take it out. But the
death star is big and it is a challenge. Okay,
the Democrat death star, whether it's old man Biden or
(48:27):
Kamalaw or whomever, it's going to be really hard, really
hard for I think if it's Biden that he has done,
I really do.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
But but but here is what Chris Christy is saying. Okay,
I'm gonna go back to the prime. For everybody out
there who's mad because I'm talking about the general election.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
You want you want Clay to be the coach of
your like high school team, by the way, because even
if you got your butts kicked last season, He's like,
we're the best team in the state. We're the best
team in the state.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I do not lack for confidence. I actually had this
conversation with my wife the other day. There was a
my middle son is the most like for me in confidence,
and like he said something and he walked out of
the room, and I was like, can you believe?
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Do you believe the hutspaw and this kid? And my
wife was like, yes, it's you.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Every single day that we've been married for the last
twenty some odd years.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
You talk the exact say the people have spoken right
in VIPs. You want more Clay voices.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
That is my voice for everybody out for the primary
people out there all right. I gotta tell you, Chris Christy,
is I really believe potentially going to keep Nicky Haley
from winning New Hampshire because everybody that is voting for
Chris Christy would otherwise I believe, I believe it's one
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hundred percent would otherwise vote for Nicki Haley. There's nobody
voting for Chris Christy that would otherwise. Numbers in front
of me Trump thirty one, Haley thirty two, Christy twelve.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Okay, So Christy is now saying why will he not
drop out? He's getting asked that question a lot. Here's
a direct quote from Chris Christy. I've never heard this
argument made. I'm curious if you've heard it.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Let's say I dropped out of the race right now
and I supported Nicky Haley, and then three months from now,
four months from now, when you're ready to go to
the convention, she comes out as his Donald Trump's vice president.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
What will I look like?
Speaker 1 (50:25):
What will all the people who supported her at my
behest look like. Chris Christie says he will not vote
endorse Nicky Haley because he's afraid she'll be Trump's vice
president have you ever seen that argument made in the
history of politics.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
I have not, and I would say interesting, I don't.
I don't think it's beyond beyond possibility that Nicky Haley
actually might end up as Trump's VP. I agree with
you on that. I know some people don't like to
hear that, but maybe I'm wrong, So maybe they're right
not to want to hear that. But I think Trump.
(51:03):
I think for people that want Trump to be the nominee,
he could pick whoever his VP is and we all
are supposed to just say that's great. So that's that.
I don't think there'd be any pushback whatsoever. So does
that mean it could be Nicky Haley?
Speaker 7 (51:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Do I think it will be Nicky Haley?
Speaker 3 (51:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
But I think she's in the top three right now.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
How strained of an argument is that? For Chris Christie,
he has zero so he has zero percent chance of
being the Republican nominee.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
See he larly zero? Yeah, he's playing spoiler across the board.
That's why I said he is. It's not like the
Chris Christie that we will remember everybody. He was talking
to Trump about being his attorney general. So just keep
that in mind. That was a very real thing, that
was and the reason he didn't get it was because
Chris Christy prosecuted Jared Kushner's father. That's actually why Chris
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Christy was not attorney general. If anybody needs a reminder,
Jared Kushner's father was a convicted felon. Chris Christy was
the US attorney in New Jersey at the time, and
that is why Chris Christy was not your attorney general.
And Jeff Sessions became your attorney general. And then I
remember sitting down with Trump early on the Trump presidency
and he said, I don't even having attorney general. And
I was like, but we just talked to Jeff Sessions, sir,
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he's your attorney general. So I remember all of this.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
All right, Buck, will you watch one minute of the
NFL playoffs? No, not even one minute of the NFL playoffs.
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I mean, you know the answer.
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It might be a TV you had money on the game.
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me to check out what's going on. So that, as
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Wednesday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now
technically the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, but we
like Clay and Buck two. We've got a lot to
talk about tonight. You know this, there's some political throwdowns
in the making. You have Ron DeSantis versus Nicky Haley
(01:01):
up on stage at CNN. On Fox News. On the
other side of the dial, you're going to have a
Trump town hall. Trump will be going into Iowa as
a candidate who has not appeared at a single debate,
and the people that are all in on Trump would say,
look at that strategy. Hasn't exactly slowed him down, has it.
(01:23):
But we'll talk a little bit. I think about some
last minute Iowa possibilities, and we know we're just a
few days away a Monday will be the Iowa Caucuses.
Also a story that's getting a lot of attention on
the immigration front. You've got New York City high school students,
(01:44):
about two thousand of them, forced into remote learning because
New York City's getting hit by a storm and they
have to move thousands of illegal migrants into the high
school that these kids thought that they were going to
as a high school. So they're now doing remote learning
for a few days. It just shows you both the
(02:06):
priorities where they're placed and the resource strain that that
city's under illegal immigration very much In the Spotlight Clay,
there's more also on the mysterious few days of the
Biden regime, neither knowing nor caring where it's Secretary of
Defense Lloyd Austin was. Steve Doocy, did you see that throwdown,
(02:28):
Steve Great? Yeah, really flustered Admiral Kirby By just saying,
why should we listen to you guys if you're gonna
lie about something like that. We'll get to that a
little bit. Also, some follow up on the Alaska Airlines flight.
If you saw that that lost a piece of the
fuselage like a window basically disappeared. And then Fauci on
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kids suffering learning loss. We will take Fauci to task
for being the lab coat stalin that he is. But Clay,
I wasn't expecting this one on my bingo card, so
to speak. You had Hunter Biden today making a surprise
appearance during a contempt of Congress hearing, and he is
(03:17):
being health in contempt, right, or rather that's the point
of the hearing. He shows up, sits in the front
row with his lawyer, Abby Lowell, doesn't say anything. Congress erupts,
you know what's going on here? I guess he just
figures God to play this out in the court of
public opinion instead of the actual court or well in Congress.
I suppose. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I'm trying to work through it from a because really,
as with Trump, you're dealing with a simultaneous political and
legal issue, and sometimes the political moves are not the
moves that a lawyer would suggest, and vice versa, and
so there. The Democrats are actually in a really difficult
(03:59):
spot with Hunter Biden right now because when he didn't
show up for his deposition. If you follow the precedent
of Steve Bannon, who was prosecuted for refusing to comply
with a congressional subpoena and provide testimony, and I believe
it's currently waiting sentencing or there's an appeal. I mean,
he was convicted in a DC court for refusing to
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comply with a congressional subpoena, and Democrats made a big deal.
They're all on the record as saying, you have to
show up when you have a congressional subpoena.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
This is a very serious issue.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
If you don't comply with congressional subpoenas, you should be
prosecuted and you should have consequences under the law. My
bet is that Hunter is going to try to argue
from a legal perspective and that this undergirds the politics
of what he's done by showing up twice on Capitol Hill,
once the first time on the day he was scheduled
(04:56):
to testify, to having the press conference outside, saying he
happy to do it, but he wants to do it
in public, which is the way the second part of
House testimony, congressional testimony works. I think, Buck, they're going
to try to argue that he's not in the same
boat as Steve Bannon because he's willing to testify. There's
(05:18):
just a dispute over how that testimony should be taking place.
But as a matter of law, I think Republicans should
refer hold him in contempt and refer this to Merrick
Garland and put this on the plate of the Attorney
General and say why does Hunter Biden not get the
(05:40):
same treatment as Steve Bannon for refusing to apply with
a subpoena? And then I think big picture, and I'm
curious how you would analyze this, Buck, I think, big picture,
this thing's not going away for Joe Biden. And this
was why refusing to sign off on that sweetheart deal
with such a big deal. Everybody's got to talk about
a Hunter Biden again now because he showed up like this.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They were this close the stroke of a pen from
a judge for making the entire Hunter Biden thing completely
go away, as though it had never happened before this close,
and they thought they were going to get it too.
I think what Hunter's doing here, he's, in a sense,
taking a page from the Trump playbook. The difference is
(06:25):
Hunter's actually committed like dozens and dozens of obvious crimes
and Trump they're prosecuting because they hate him. But he's
effectively showing up as in a defiant I don't recognize
the jurisdiction of this show trial. You know what I mean.
It's meant to be. It's meant to be Hunter Biden
giving Democrats a show of defiance so they can tell
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themselves the obvious lies that we've heard, things like, oh,
Hunter's only being prosecuted because he's Joe Biden's son. That's
the opposite of the truth. He's only not sitting in
prison because he's Joe Biden's son. Right, It's actually in
the in the complete opposite direction. And I think, but
you see what Nancy Mace said, Yeah, she says, you
(07:09):
have no I think we have that audio? Do we do?
Do we have these audio? We have the Nancy Mace
audio one rip.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
My first question is who bribed Hunter Biden to be
here today?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That's my first question.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Second question, You are the epitome of white privilege coming
into the Oversight Committee, spitting in our face, ignoring a
congressional subpoena to be deposed. What are you afraid of?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You have no balls to.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Come up here, mister chairman, point of inquiry, Mister chairman,
lay general. If the general lady wants to hear from
Hunter Biden, we can hear from him right now, Miss chairman,
Let's take a vote and hear from unter Biden?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Are speaking?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Are women allowed to speaking?
Speaker 6 (07:57):
To keep interrupting me, I'll interrupt.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
You know that he's a lady.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think that, uh that Hunter Biden should be arrested
right here, right now and go straight to jail.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Straight to jail, straight to jail. She wants to send it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I think we also have Hunter Biden storming out when
Marjorie Taylor Green is recognized to speak at the hearing, me,
this all just happened. I'll tell you what I would advise,
purely from a legal perspective, in a sec here two back,
but listen to cut two.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Cher recognized Miss Green from Georgia for thank you, mister chairman.
Excuse me, Hunter, Apparently you're afraid of my.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Words, and why you.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
All?
Speaker 7 (08:36):
I like to reclaim my time, mister chairman the bubble.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Wow, that's too bad.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
I think it's clear and obvious for everyone watching this
hearing today that Hunter Biden is terrified of strong conservative
Republican women because he can't even face my words as
I was about to speak to him.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
What a coward. I gotta get the title to Nancy
Mace on this one. I'm just gonna say she went
a little harder.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Here's my legal analysis. I don't understand why Hunter Biden
didn't just show up and take the fifth because it
feels to me like one of the challenges of being
a lawyer is sometimes your client's an idiot and he
wants to fight, even when fighting is the bad advice.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He is effectively challenging Congress in this case, obviously the
Republicans in Congress in a way.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
That under he could be I don't even know where
they put him. They have like their own jail in
the House of Representatives. It doesn't really happen, so we
don't know, but that has happened since the eighteen thirties
I was reading about this. They have the legal authority
to actually arrest him for refusing to comply with the subpoena.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
No, it used to be that they would remove members
of Congress and even federal judges for like drunkenness on
the bench. I mean, if you go back into American history,
there's some crazy stuff that we don't even remember anymore.
But the point about Hunter here, Clay is he is
he is visually publicly undermining the entire this I'm saying
what his strategy is undermining the process. To say this
(10:16):
whole thing is a sham, it would be like walking
into a criminal court and saying to the judge, you know,
I don't recognize your jurisdiction in this matter. Now the
judge's gonna throw your butt in prison. That's not happening
here because they're not gonna do it. And and I
think they Hunter needs a narrative of he's a martyr
and they're only going after him because he's Joe Biden's son.
(10:39):
I know, everyone in this audience laughs. That's absurd. Of course,
it's absurd, But it gives them the cover, right, It
gives them enough leeway that that takes a little bit
of this of the stinging out of this. Politically for
the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I think that this is blowing up in the Democrats' faces,
and I think one of the challenges don't talk us
hunters perspective, you know, yeah, yeah, But I think one
of the argument you'll hear is that Joe Biden's advisors
have difficulty talking to him about Hunter because this is
according to the stories that have been written, he gets
so emotional he won't talk about it in a rational fashion.
(11:17):
I think that every time a Hunter shows up and
engages in historyonics and theatrics like this, it just shines
a spotlight on the fact that he didn't pay his taxes,
and there are more people out there who become aware
of Hunter Biden. Remember everybody in our audience, we all
know this Hunter Biden story. There's a lot of people
out there in America who bought into the idea that
(11:40):
this was all trumped up, that there was nothing to it.
And every time the media has to talk about these
Hunter Biden things, it's hard to argue to being unfairly
treated when you didn't pay millions of dollars in taxes.
I mean, this is not a complicated story for most Americans.
I think to understand, Hunter looks like what he is.
Every time he does this a spoiled, entitled brat who
believes rules don't apply to him.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There are a lot of things where we could still
feel like we have to say, you know, alleged, or
we know about the tax issue. He was going to
plead guilty on the tax issue, and that's what you
did or you didn't, right, I mean, you know you
either paid or you didn't pay. He's never said that
he paid the taxes. He obviously didn't pay the taxes.
He had to pay massive fines already as a result
of that. I think it's it's interesting to see though,
(12:25):
when they say that Joe Biden obviously he's upset about it.
It's his son. But Hunter's not going to prison. I'm
going to tell everybody this right now because it's and
this probably isn't anything that anyone wants to hear. Not
only is Hunter Biden not going to prison, he will
have this all wiped away and he'll be a rich
guy again by this time next year, or be on
the way to being a rich guy again. Because what's
(12:46):
the downside for him? As much as we sit here,
Clay and look at what a clown he isn't here
here's the this is cut three this is this reporter.
This is the kind of question that hunter Biden's getting
these days. Play three, did you please? I'll answer your
question if you beat quiet. Let me make a stake
a crack you normally smoke, mister Biden. Have you heard that?
What kind of crack do you normally smoke? Mister Biden?
(13:07):
Now of crack?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
By the way, I don't even know, do you know
I'm not up to speed. I'm very happy to know.
I'm very happy to not know the answer to that
question at all. Although it is funny that that's kind
of what a laughingstock has become.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, I think we'll get into
some of this. What do you guys think is going
on with this? Eight hundred and two eight two two
eight eight two. We will take your calls on it.
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Speaker 8 (14:35):
Your kids are supposed to go to school and then
someone tells you, sorry, your kids have to stay home.
Why is there some type of real significant storm or
some emergency, or was there a flu outbreak?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, why are they having to stay home?
Speaker 8 (14:48):
They're having to stay home because the state government is
commandeering or the city government is commandeering the school to
house illegal aliens. You talk about putting Americans last.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're having these kids.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
You're depriving these kids of in person education to be
able to house people that don't have a right to
be here to begin with. That's Joe Biden's America in
a nutshell.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So that was Florida Governor Rohn DeSantis at a town
hall last night in Iowa talking about the situation in
New York City. Right now, you got around two thousand people.
Two thousand people have been moved from a tent shelter
(15:32):
on a Floyd Floyd Bennett Field, the former airplane runway
in southern Brooklyn. They moved because of heavy storms expected,
so they shut down a high school to move the
migrants into. You know, a couple of things on this
one play. You know, one thing that I think people
(15:53):
are understanding now more than ever is that the migrant population,
especially when it congregates, particularly in one city, it comes
with considerable expense to the taxpayer. And you also recognize
that this is a little bit like a mobile refugee camp.
I mean that is what asylum seekers are a form
(16:15):
of refugee. So when you have ten cities in New
York for the migrants, it is a refugee camp. And
when they show you what their priorities are, meaning the
city of New York, that instead of finding some way
to house these migrants that does not displace all these kids,
they go, oh, just stay home. You know. Now all
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these parents at this high school to have to deal
with with the displacement. It makes all of this real
to people. And then when you start to look at
what the numbers are, it's about seven million, six point
eight million, I think is the official number right now.
It's going to be more like eight million by the
or seven million, nine hundred thousand there we go or elsewhere.
(16:58):
And their call was in tremendous disruption and resource usage
and what exactly are we getting for all of this,
and what is the Biden administration going to do about it?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I think it also crystallizes who bears the cost when illegal.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Immigrants are coming into the country.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's very often the people who are at the bottom
of the food chain in the first place. I think
I saw that two thirds of the students that are
being kicked out of this school are on free or
reduced lunch at that school in New York. So much
like with COVID, when if you were fortunate enough to
(17:36):
live in a neighborhood in a county and a community
that stayed open, I was.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Your kids got to go to school.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
If you were unfortunate enough to live in predominantly blue cities,
your kids were out of school for almost two years
in some of these places, and the kids that were
out of school were the poorest among us. So it's
very easy when you are rich comparatively, and you get
to work from home, and you sit in with the
(18:07):
laptop in your lap, and you work for a couple
of hours, then you pop on Netflix, then you hit
the gym, have a nice little lunch, then you come
back and tune in for another hour to sit around
and say, oh, let's have lockdowns. Oh these are illegal immigrants,
let's support them. But I think what you're seeing Buck.
Do you remember when in Chicago they kicked kids out
(18:30):
who were playing football from their locker room and their
gym to give it over to illegal immigrants, And there
was a big protest in Chicago from that local community saying,
wait a minute, these kids are sports are helping to
keep them on the straight and narrow, giving them an
opportunity to focus on something to have coaches and a
(18:50):
reason sometimes to stay in school. And suddenly the illegal
immigrants get it in New York City. Remember when they
took over the soccer fields I believe in Brooklyn and
put up to housing and suddenly the kids can't go
play soccer anymore because they took over the park and
they're giving it over to illegal immigrants. What a lot
of people who hadn't given much thought to this are
suddenly realizing is there are only so many resources. And
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when you are a high tax community that is losing residents,
as New York is, you're not able to provide the
same services to everyone that you might have been in
the past. And you know who gets the short end
of it, poor citizens, in favor of illegals. And I
think that's resonating in big cities in a way that
maybe it hasn't in past years with the immigrant crisis.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I feel like I keep saying it, but it just
it's it's almost unfathomable to me that the City of
New York, my hometown, is planning a forty percent reduction
in street trash can pick up. Yeah, well that's just
gonna be You're gonna have Oh, you're gonna have overflowing
trash cans everywhere. You're gonna have people just throwing their
(19:58):
trash all over the streets. New York City is going
to in the next year really closely resemble a third
World country on the streets because of all the trash
that's gonna happen. And people are saying, well, why are
they doing this? Budget cuts to your point, Clay, because
they're spending billions of dollars. It turns out when you
have one hundred thousand people and you're providing all of
their food, all of their housing, all their medical care
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in addition to whatever you were spending before that things
can get really expensive. Never mind the fact that they
were putting some of these migrants up in four star
hotels for weeks on end. The whole thing is absurd.
Find me another country that would do any of this
Before people start saying, oh, the migrants, they need this,
and if you don't like it, you're racist. What other
(20:41):
country does this? What other country shuts down their local
high school so that they can have mind? By the way,
if you tell me the country, I'm gonna say, yeah,
and how's that working out for them? There might be
a couple in Europe. It's not going very well.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And the other thing on this is, and it's important
for you to understand. If you're out there and you're saying, well,
I don't really care what's going on in New York City,
you know, they can make their own decisions. This is
you know, make them their sanctuary cities. Let's make them
deal with it. You know what they're trying to do too.
And this is a big part. They want Joe Biden
to give them billions of dollars to pay for all this.
(21:15):
That money comes from you and me, taxpayers that are
not in New York City or Chicago or DC.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This is where they're headed. They want to bailout. It's
a federal problem as far as Democrats are concerned. Remember,
the federal government is using the force of law to
stop the State of Texas from enforcing the law. The
federal government would I mean this would be like, you know,
those who work in law enforcement I'm talking about imagine
(21:43):
if you were like a high pursuit chase. You know,
you're you're an FBI guy. Hey we got this guy.
He's a kidnapper. He's in a car. And if you
go to like the state trooper, you know, I, you know,
can you can you give me assistance on this one?
And he goes nah kah and no, no assistance. You'd say,
what's going on, like are we enforced the law here
or not? You have the federal government doesn't want help
(22:03):
in this case. They don't actually want assistance, and they
will prevent assistance from coming to them. And then on
the backside of this, they're going to say, well, because
it's only a federal problem, everyone has to pay for this.
So if you're listening to us right now and you're like, well,
we don't have that many migrants in Nebraska, and by
the way, I have no idea. Maybe there is a
big population there of migrant, but you know, we don't
have that many migrants in Oklahoma. These days, your federal
(22:27):
tax dollars are going to go to bail out New
York City to the tune of billions of dollars if
the Democrats can get away with it.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That is the plan, one hundred billion percent to plan.
And this is one of this is why Joe Biden
is polling worst. Of all the issues that are out there,
this is the one that is resonating the most, I
think with the Americans across the political landscape, and look
at who's protesting.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
A lot of this.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
These are majority black Hispanic schools kids that are getting
kicked out, and suddenly black and Hispanic parents are saying,
wait a minute, how in the world is this happening?
How are my kids coming off of COVID? And when
we know, despite what Fauci's trying to argue, when we know,
by the way, how incredibly disadvantaged kids were by shutting
(23:10):
down schools. All of a sudden, they're going to shut
down schools again and make these kids go to remote learning.
And we all know that remote learning is an oxymoron
because for the most part doesn't really exist. I just
the chickens are coming home to roost here and I
don't know what the pathway out is for the Biden
administration at this point time. By the way, we'll take
(23:32):
some of your calls eight hundred and two to two
eight A two as we continue to roll through the
Wednesday edition of the program. Also curious how people will
break down their viewing habits. You were talking about this
with me off air. How many of you out there
will watch DeSantis versus NICKI Haley on CNN, and we
should also mention I'll come back and bring us back
in talking about this a little bit.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Donald Trump appearing.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Live on Fox News for the first time since April
twenty twenty two, with his own counter programming going on
head to head against the Santas and Nicky Haley. I'm
curious what those ratings will look like for Donald Trump
with his town hall as he continues to not be
involved in the debate process at all in the meantime.
And I think, by the way, Buck, this will be
(24:14):
the first time that Donald Trump has been live on
television since May when he did that CNN town hall
which basically blew up all of CNN and.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
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Speaker 2 (25:32):
The third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, everybody,
and you know, one of the things that we always
try to do here is get you answers to questions. Right,
we ask questions. There are things out there that you
figure out what's going on. We started off the show
talking a little bit about what's happening in New York
(25:53):
City where they are kicking kids out of their school,
out of a New York City high school to make
room for a couple thousand migrants who you would think
wouldn't necessarily get priority here because they're not really supposed
to be in the country in the first place. They
entered illegally and are now theoretically waiting for asylum claims
(26:13):
to be adjudicated. Clay pointed this out earlier in the
week that I think it's now they're looking at twenty
thirty three or twenty thirty two or something for when
the actual claims will be. People are getting court appearing
into the twenty thirties. Win the twenty thirty post to
show up. So just for everybody out there thinking.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Imagine trying to predict your own life seven years from now,
it's the whole thing is absurd, but it shows you
that it's a total scam and.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
This is causing a little bit of a problem, you know.
Clay read before Also the numbers out of Michigan, the
polling numbers out of Michigan, suggesting that immigration is a
major issue there. Illegal immigration is a major issue there. Well,
Biden regime recognizes that they got a problem because it
looks really bad. Six point eight million already eight million
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predicted illegals in this country in Biden's first term. The
greatest acceleration of illegal entry into the United States in
history has occurred in Joe Biden's first three years, and
it's not going to stop his fourth year. Corrine Jeanpierre
was asked a question about this one. This is cut
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twenty five, and here's what she's saying about New York
City kicking kids out of school for migrants.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
And as it relates to this particular question that you're
asking me about New York City, that is something that
New York City needs the answers to. That is a
process that they took, so they have to answer to that.
And as it relates to migrants and what's happening at
the border. Look, the President has taken this issue very seriously,
very seriously by making sure that on his first day,
which is almost three years it will be a couple
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of weeks, will be three years ago, that he put
forward a comprehensive immigration legislation to deal with what's happening
with the immigration process obviously and also of the border.
And this is an issue that's been going on for decades.
The system has been broken for decades, and the President
is the one who has taken action to deal with this.
While House Republicans.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Do not it's just all the same talking points we've
heard for a very long time. I would note Clay
first of all, when she says comprehensive immigration reform, When
Democrats use that term, they mean I need everyone to
listen up. And I think all of you know this,
but it's important that we reiterated they need amnesty. Okay,
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that the only immigration reform that is certain that they
want is amnesty. Everything else is just make believe. It's
window dressing around the problem. It's not actually going to
do anything, and they won't actually enforce any provisions or
restrictions that they say they will. But also notice how
they've gone from doing the jobs Americans won't do play
to we need. You know, Nancy Pelosi is saying, you know,
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we have an obligation to give these people asylum. We
actually don't, and we did have an obligation to take
in illegals to do jobs that they were going to
be undercutting the wages of American workers for. She's not
being honest. I know that many of you out there
are going to say, of course she's not.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
But if you go back and look, we've never had
this many people cross our southern border illegally in any
of your lives than has happened since Joe Biden took office.
And I think it's important to point out that many
of the people crossing the southern border are not doing
it from Mexico, because for a lot of us out there,
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this is the way we think about illegal immigration. We're like, oh,
those are just people coming over from Mexico, And that
has been commonplace in the year's past, in the decades
past that she's referenced, But a lot of the time
then people would cross over for seasonal work and then
they would go back home. And this is important because
it ties in with the asylum claims not being heard
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until after twenty thirty. Now, so many people are coming
into the country from so far are away now that
they can never.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Go back to their home country.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
If you were, let's say, in nineteen eighty six, coming
across the southern border because you were going to engage
in say, let's say, picking strawberries or helping to harvest
food in a seasonal basis, you tended to go back
across the border. Now, if you're coming, you're coming from
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so far away that you're never going to go back
to your home country I was reading yesterday or the
day before, We're seeing Africans.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Think about how crazy this is.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
We are seeing Africans, not African Americans, Africans people from Africa.
We are seeing them travel all the way to South
America to come to the United States now, tens of
thousands of them, because it's easier for them to get
into the United States than Europe.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I understand everybody's not an expert in the globe, right,
like everybody, just think about when you are traveling that
far from Africa to a new continent here, to go
to a different point. It's easier to get into the
United States from Africa than it is Europe. And Europe's
got all sorts of immigration issues itself. That's how bad
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it is.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You'd much rather be an illegal in America than you
would these days in Italy, in Greece, in Spain. There's
increasing pushback in those countries on these issues. They you know,
here in America, we take the attitude of we're gonna
We're gonna take care of of everything that needs taken
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care of for anyone who's here illegal or not. Now
we could have a whole discussion about that, but the
point is it's a better deal for people. You know,
if you were coming from you know, if you were
coming from the Central African Republic. Let's say Europe's a
whole lot closer to your point. But it's a better
option to get into America because you're very likely going
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to be able to do it, you're very likely going
to be able to stay. So when they say that
New York City has to answer for this, no, really,
it's a federal problem. I mean, that's a dodge. When
Karine Jean Pierre says this is all about what the
City of New York is doing, the truth is this
is all a you know, the Bide administration shows everybody
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what they're really all about when they prevent Texas from
helping them secure the border. And we also need to
redefine some of these terms. What does border security mean?
It has to mean if you weren't coming here through
a legal process, you are immediately turned away from the country.
The way it works now is people illegally enter, not
at a port of entry, then they claim defensive asylum. The
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cartels coach them on how to do this. They pay money,
they get a little bracelet, they say, oh I have
a credible fear of my of violence in my country.
It's a joke. The credible fear of screening process. The
numbers just came out. I think it's eighty five percent
of people who enter illegally get to say, you got
an over eight out of ten chance. And then once
you're in the country, there's no interior enforcement. You have
to fear whatsoever because there's no deportations. So when people
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say as secure border, it doesn't mean that you have
more people waving everybody in and handing out sandwiches and
saying welcome to America. It means stopping people from coming
into the country and expelling those in the country illegally
or else. Everything is just we're just wasting our time.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What it also does buck in addition to yes, this
is the Democrat game plan.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
They lie.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
They say that nothing's changed, the incentive culture, which we've
talked about here you can get a job and you
can make a lot more money than you would in
your home country. It also destroys the argument that America
is a systemically racist country because over fifty thousand people
are fleeing Africa. Africa is almost entirely black, right, almost
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entirely black rulers.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
But the left makes an even the argument is even
more even more upset that Clay, because it's not just
that we're not a racist country. The argument that the
left makes in this country, and really the sort of
global no borders, you know, internationalist view, is America owes
this to all these countries because of our exploitation of
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the developing world, because of our climate CO two profile,
because of you know, the history of colonialism. Right. So
to your point, they're coming here because obviously it's like
not really that racist, but the mentality of the people
arriving is you owe this to us, and the Democrat
left in this country tells them that. So that's right.
People have to pay this up, pay this you know, forward,
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or whatever. They got to do what they got to do,
which is.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Why I tie this all in with the DEI universe
in general. Think about the world that democrats have created.
You have people who are illegally entering the country. Let's say,
I think the New York Times just reported that in
the last year, over fifty thousand thousand Africans traveled from
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Africa to Latin America to make their way into the
United States. So it's easier to get to the United
States from Africa illegally than it is into Europe. They're
then going to be here for seven years. Let's say
they have a kid, so they don't have a kid.
They can get a job based on the legacy of racism,
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despite never having had anything at all to do with
American history and racism at all. In fact, the biggest
beneficiaries if you look at a lot of these so
called elite colleges.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I think we've talked about this on the show before.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
The black students that are being admitted, a huge percentage
of them never were the ideas, oh, we've got to
redress past American racial discrimination. A huge percentage of them
and their families were never here when the racial discrimination
even happened. I mean overwhelmingly, the number of kids that
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are going in to these elite schools are kids whose
parents were highly educated in potentially other countries. Let's say
your dad and mom got a doctorate in Nigeria, you
come to this country, you get raised as an American,
and then you benefit off of the racial spoil system,
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despite the fact that there's no connection whatsoever your family
has to any legacy of discrimination in America at all.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's just it's the same. It's it's the politics of envy.
It's replacing class class warfare that the communists used to
take them out contents of a society and turn turn
them against everybody else and turn the society upside down
with this creation of the systemic racism myth in this country.
(36:49):
America was at one point, obviously, and it has a
history of having racism in the past, but that is
no longer the case. And you know, with the argument
that's being made by people today about things like the
systemic racism in America, you'd have to say, what is
in America that that they would admit is not systemically
racists look like? And you have to wonder because if
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they're going to start saying, well, would have to be
equal representation in the following fields, the following wealth categories,
the following criminal justice categories. You'd say, so you're actually
just talking about quotas well. They've tried quota systems and
other countries around the world based along racial lines, and
it works very, very poorly. It is a very bad
idea because it's inherently a wrong idea and an unjust idea.
(37:32):
But they'll never just accept, well, if the law is
if the law is acceptable, the law is neutral, and
you know, even beyond that, the American people are despite
what the media pretends. And that graph, everyone should see it,
like everyone should have it printed out and keep it
in their desks somewhere, the graph of the media deciding
in was it twenty sixteen, was it with Trump or
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was it might have been before that.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
If you or two of them that twenty thirteen fourteen
is between the white supreme he suddenly just stow the
show up everywhere.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
That's right. Barack Obama goes into a second term and
it's all about white supremacy in the media all the time.
That's what they're talking about. And they have actually tried
to redefine white supremacy to be things that are entirely
innocuous and you say, wait, that's not white supremacy. You know,
had these there have been these discussions before. I think
Vivek even brought up actually recently with that reporter. Remember
when he had that throwdown with the the very you know,
(38:24):
intellectually limited reporter, and he said, is being on time
a form of white supremacy because some of the biggest
advocates of systemic racism claim that it is Yeah, that is.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Terminology says a two parent household is white supremacy, which.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Is all of it is. It's actually so crazy and
so offensive. But that is where the left took this
and and that is you know, the continuation of their logic.
And it's because it's all rooted in a faulty principle.
And we can either we can either stop discriminating by
race or we're going to continue to scrim by race. Right,
this is you can whatever you try to fill in
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as the as the you know, the the on the
X y axis of this, it doesn't change that you're
either discriminating by race or you're not. And you can
either stop doing it or you're going to keep doing it.
And that's the that's the simple reality I think of
race in America today. But the Democrat Party is built on,
more than anything else, the identity politics framework. So that's why, Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (40:53):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. While I
believe that Trump if the election were today, I think
he would win comfortably.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Ten months out, Buck not so confident.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
There obviously is voting taking place for the first time
on Monday. So everybody out there who's like, Trump's not
even gonna be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
That's the voice that I hear.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I don't usually do voices, Buck, but that's the voice
my favorite.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Yeah, well, you gotta do voices more often. That that is.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
That is the way that I hear everyone whoever goes
on social media and disagrees. Everybody who disagrees like that
about who's gonna be the nominee? That is the voice
that I hear. Every one of your tweets, right, every
one of your emails. Ron de Santos is gonna this.
Now I'm changing voices.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Ron de Santus is gonna win. I will by ten points.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
You're gonna see, Clay, You're gonna be crying. And then simultaneously,
the next tweet that rolls in will be I don't
know why you hate Donald Trump so much. In fact,
I was reading the emails. I don't know how often
you read these emails, but Buck, this came in. This
is one of our VIPs I wanted to give. I'm
flagged this because I thought it would be fun to read.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Bill.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Bill wrote in Buck, and he said, Clay, I just
want you to know how hypocritical you sound. You don't
want Trump to win because there will be riots.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
What Democrat paid you off? I know you. This is Bill.
This is what Bill wrote.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I know you will never be affected by the bidenomics.
You are an elitist and have no idea what the
ordinary worker is going through. Your mindset is like the
chaotic music that you play in the beginning of your show.
This is Bill. This is where you're headed.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Buck. By the way, I mean, it's one thing. It's
one thing to say you're a paid agent of Biden,
but to mess with our theme song, Bill, Bill, come on,
you gotta give it a chance. Bill's not even done.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Bill just brought like a you know, a automatic firing.
He's taken out everything. Bill continued, Buck, So I'm a hypocrite.
I don't want Trump to win because there will be riots.
I'm being paid off by Democrats. I'm an elitist that
has picked awful music to play on the show.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
It continues Bill.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That's all what Bill said, and then he makes a
pivot here, Buck, I swear this is directly from the VIP.
As far as the College National Championship comments you.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Made, Oh what? This is a lot of range for Bill.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Bill legitimately hates everything that I have said on any subject.
So Bill went from you're paid by the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I hate you. You're an elitist.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Your music sucks to then he pivots as far as
the College National Championship comments you made. Remember, it's easy
to win when you can recruit the way Harbaugh did.
The top named colleges have been doing it for years. Heroes.
One last thing, you act and talk like the rhino
you are. So Bill just served me from top to
(44:08):
bottom all day. And the reason, first of all, this
amazing email. I appreciate Bill, thankful for him listening, disagreeing
with everything that I've said, also not really understanding anything
that I've said, but that's a whole nother story. Simultaneously
and you get this, tu Buc you can be as
we get closer.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
To the primary. And this is this is where it's
very much like sports.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
You can simultaneously, in the mind of people who are
die hard Rond de Santa supporters, be a die hard
Donald Trump supporter who is indefensibly biased, and in the
mind of a Trump supporter, you can simultaneously be a
die hard Rond de Santa supporter who doesn't believe that
(44:53):
things that Trump I'm paid to try to keep Trump
from being elected.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I think the mission statement here should should always be clear,
and it's want what's best for the country. A Republican
defeating Joe Biden is what's best for the country. I
don't know. I don't think anybody can really know at
this point what the Democrats have fully planned. But we
want the best Republican candidate we can have who wins
(45:17):
this primary is going to be up against what I
think is going to be a mailstream of a whole
range of things, lies, cheating, Democrat apparatus funding, you know,
social media tilting the scale. But you know, it is
possible to sit here and say and I think it's
I try to be very honest about this. I think
you try to be very honest about this, Clay. I
thought Donald Trump did a did a good job when
(45:40):
he was president. I think that Ron DeSantis has done
a a plus job as governor of Florida. I think
that Vivek Ramaswami has made quite a name for himself
and been a very interesting component of the debates and
the discussion. He's not I don't think that he's really
gotten much in the way of polling numbers. But you know,
and then Nick Haley, I start to get a little
(46:01):
I tend to be a little critical, more critical of
her stated positions. And then we even get to and
I can say why, But I just think, as somebody
who spent some time in Iraq and some time in
Afghanistan during those wars and saw what our war fighters
were doing and what they were up against, and what
the mission was, and saw the intelligence at the highest levels,
(46:21):
there were big problems with the strategies. There were big
problems with that, and we saw this with the Biden
disastrous withdrawal out of Afghanistan. But at least but look,
if it's Nicky Haley or Joe Biden, yeah, I'd rather
have Nicki Haley obviously, So if she became the nominee,
IW it'd sport her. Chris Christie and I used to
like Christy. I mean, look, I sit here and say,
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I'm a former Romney voter. Everybody, I voted for Mitt
Romney in twenty twelve, and I got to live with that.
But I mean I was Mitt Romney or Barack Obama.
It's one of the best things that ramsrald Ever said.
You go to war with the army you have. I
know which army I want to win and on which
side I want to win. I just don't ness know
(47:03):
who the general is going to be. Chris Christy. I'm
a little worried though he's gone to the like he's
gone to the dark side. Like I'm a little worried
Chris Christi. The force has has left him and he
is now turning into like Christi Vader or you know
something like that. I've got Saurron has gotten him with
the ring I've got a Chris Christy quote for you
that you haven't seen yet or heard, and let me
(47:25):
just say this, I would say the biggest pivot for
me during the course of this Republican campaign for the
primary as people get ready to vote five days from now.
I really believe and I've said this. I think for
a couple of months now, the story to me has
shifted from who's the most likely to beat Biden to
if Biden is the nominee, then I think Ron DeSantis,
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Nikki Hayley, Vivek Ramaswami, and Donald Trump. I legitimately believe this.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
I think if all for any of those four guys
and or Gal were the nominee, I think that they
would all beat Biden. And I think Democrats are slowly
coming to the I really do.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
I think you are underestimating the Democrat death star here.
I really do. I do I think that we can run.
I'm really going with the analogies here, or the metaphors, analogies, whatever,
going with the X wing. Can we hit the death Star?
Yes we can. We can take it out. But the
death star is big and it is a challenge. Okay,
the Democrat death star, whether it's old man Biden or
(48:27):
Kamalaw or whomever, it's going to be really hard, really
hard for I think if it's Biden that he has done,
I really do.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
But but but here is what Chris Christy is saying. Okay,
I'm gonna go back to the prime. For everybody out
there who's mad because I'm talking about the general election.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
You want you want Clay to be the coach of
your like high school team, by the way, because even
if you got your butts kicked last season, He's like,
we're the best team in the state. We're the best
team in the state.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I do not lack for confidence. I actually had this
conversation with my wife the other day. There was a
my middle son is the most like for me in confidence,
and like he said something and he walked out of
the room, and I was like, can you believe?
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Do you believe the hutspaw and this kid? And my
wife was like, yes, it's you.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Every single day that we've been married for the last
twenty some odd years.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
You talk the exact say the people have spoken right
in VIPs. You want more Clay voices.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
That is my voice for everybody out for the primary
people out there all right. I gotta tell you, Chris Christy,
is I really believe potentially going to keep Nicky Haley
from winning New Hampshire because everybody that is voting for
Chris Christy would otherwise I believe, I believe it's one
(49:45):
hundred percent would otherwise vote for Nicki Haley. There's nobody
voting for Chris Christy that would otherwise. Numbers in front
of me Trump thirty one, Haley thirty two, Christy twelve.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
Okay, So Christy is now saying why will he not
drop out? He's getting asked that question a lot. Here's
a direct quote from Chris Christy. I've never heard this
argument made. I'm curious if you've heard it.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Let's say I dropped out of the race right now
and I supported Nicky Haley, and then three months from now,
four months from now, when you're ready to go to
the convention, she comes out as his Donald Trump's vice president.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
What will I look like?
Speaker 1 (50:25):
What will all the people who supported her at my
behest look like. Chris Christie says he will not vote
endorse Nicky Haley because he's afraid she'll be Trump's vice
president have you ever seen that argument made in the
history of politics.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
I have not, and I would say interesting, I don't.
I don't think it's beyond beyond possibility that Nicky Haley
actually might end up as Trump's VP. I agree with
you on that. I know some people don't like to
hear that, but maybe I'm wrong, So maybe they're right
not to want to hear that. But I think Trump.
(51:03):
I think for people that want Trump to be the nominee,
he could pick whoever his VP is and we all
are supposed to just say that's great. So that's that.
I don't think there'd be any pushback whatsoever. So does
that mean it could be Nicky Haley?
Speaker 7 (51:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Do I think it will be Nicky Haley?
Speaker 3 (51:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (51:16):
But I think she's in the top three right now.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
How strained of an argument is that? For Chris Christie,
he has zero so he has zero percent chance of
being the Republican nominee.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
See he larly zero? Yeah, he's playing spoiler across the board.
That's why I said he is. It's not like the
Chris Christie that we will remember everybody. He was talking
to Trump about being his attorney general. So just keep
that in mind. That was a very real thing, that
was and the reason he didn't get it was because
Chris Christy prosecuted Jared Kushner's father. That's actually why Chris
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Christy was not attorney general. If anybody needs a reminder,
Jared Kushner's father was a convicted felon. Chris Christy was
the US attorney in New Jersey at the time, and
that is why Chris Christy was not your attorney general.
And Jeff Sessions became your attorney general. And then I
remember sitting down with Trump early on the Trump presidency
and he said, I don't even having attorney general. And
I was like, but we just talked to Jeff Sessions, sir,
(52:14):
he's your attorney general. So I remember all of this.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
All right, Buck, will you watch one minute of the
NFL playoffs? No, not even one minute of the NFL playoffs.
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I mean, you know the answer.
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It might be a TV you had money on the game.
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Now my language, because now it makes it fun for
me to check out what's going on. So that, as
a matter of fact, I will be watching some NFL
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