July 12, 2024 • 42 mins
President Trump calls in, part one. Disappointing media. Trump Veepstakes.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We have a.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Fantastic guest to start us off today, President Trump himself
is joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Mister President, I appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So let's start with how you think it went. I'm
sure you saw at least some of the Biden press
conference yesterday in the evening. What's your takeaway? Because the
New York Times and a lot of others seem like
they thought it could be the end, but doesn't really
seem like the end.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that. It's very hard to do anything else. But
I thought the worst part of the press conference was
the moment during the day when he introduced Zelensky and
(01:00):
he introduced him as Vladimir Putin. That was not good.
That was unpardonable. You can't do that. You know, there
are things you can do and things you can't do.
That was a bad one. So he introduced them as
Putin and then I guess somebody started screaming at him,
and he corrected as much as you can. You know
(01:23):
that doesn't get corrected very easily. So he went in
there with the yips. I think he went into the
press conference with the yips because, frankly, if he were
Winston Churchill, who was not bad at press conferences, by
the way, if he were Winston Churchill, his press conference
was going to work out too well because of what
happened previous.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Talking to President Trump here, I appreciate you starting off
the show here with us. When you look at the
way that Biden performed against you and you knocked him
out on June twenty seventh, I mean you're a boxing fan,
you're a UFC fan. I mean he was done, and
I know you've challenged him to other debates, But does
(02:03):
a part of you feel like you were basically Mike
Tyson and he was you know, Spinks, and you knocked
him out. Why does he deserve a chance to get
back in the ring with you, Because usually when you
get knocked out, you don't get antermediate rematch. If it
goes to the judge, goes to the scorecard, maybe you
get the rematch you know the story does a party
you feel like, Yeah, I've dismissed this guy. I knocked
(02:24):
him out. We don't even need a debate again.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, remember he offered to do the debate. But they
took everything that they wanted. They had seats right, they
had the anchors that they wanted, and they had every
single element of the debate that they wanted. They even
wanted it sitting down. That was the only thing I said, Look,
let's stand up for a little while. That would look terrible.
So although debates have been done sitting down and probably successfully,
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but I start standing up with a better look. The
one thing he wanted was the lecter, and he wanted
the one on the left, and so he got that,
and I guess something that I wanted, which was to
go last. But it was a very interesting evening when
I when I walked in, I noticed he was quite
pale and didn't really look at him very much until
(03:11):
he started gaffing. And he was he was doing some
He was saying some bad things, meaning like words didn't
belong in the right place. Words were going into the
wrong place, lots of words, but they were not being
properly placed. And that was the only time I really
looked over at him, but I thought it was you know, look,
(03:31):
I've been given credit for a great debate. I don't
know what happened to him. He didn't do too well,
and that was the beginning of a long period of time.
You know, he's had numerous chances to make up for it.
They've given him many chances to make up for it.
And you know I wouldn't. It was certainly not like
the debate. I don't think he's had any moment. You
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could tell me better than I would know, but I
would say that they haven't been stellar these makeups. Last
night was not a stellar performance. Again, the gaff he
made earlier and was bad, but last night was not stellar.
He called me as vice president, and he didn't do
it sarcastically. By the way, if he did it sarcastically,
(04:15):
it would have been great. But it wasn't done sarcastically.
So he called me, and he made quite a few
other mistakes, but it wasn't like a total disaster.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Now, the debate was a.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Disaster for him, there's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
President Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I assume he looked forward to a second debate were
supposed to be doing a second debate in September. Oh
do the television networks look forward to that one.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But so you're willing to give him a rematch, because
I actually think that's kind of you, given the fact
that you knocked him out. I mean again, like Mike
Tyson didn't immediately say okay, get in the ring against Sphinx.
I kind of feel like he was flat on the
you know, on the canvas, looking up at you. But
that seems kind Maybe you could knock him out again.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think we owe it maybe to the public to
do it, you know, I think you have an obligation
to sort of do it. You're the Republican nominee and
you're the Democrat nominee, and I think maybe to an extent,
we owe it to the public to do it, if
that makes sense. Yeah, But I actually, I actually was
(05:21):
suggesting yesterday maybe you'll have a first of this that
we go in together, because I am cognitively great, perfect
and I've had tests. I do it routine, you know,
whenever I do. I just did a physical, by the way,
and I came out perfectly. We'll announce those numbers soon
or whatever I have to announce. But but I suggest
(05:45):
that we go in together and do a cognitive test.
We'll do cognitive tests. We'll do it together like a team.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Would you do it on television live, like a cognitive
cognitive test on television with him?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I would do whatever they want. I'd do the test.
I'd do mental acuity tests with him. I would do
whatever whatever it would be appropriate. But they have actually tests,
they have scanning tests, lots of different tests. And I
actually feel that anybody running from not age wise. I
(06:19):
mean I've spoken to, I deal with people that are
much older than Biden. They are one hundred percent. You know,
Biden is unusual in a way, But I've spoken to
people much older than him and they're one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is he the matchup you want on President Trump? This
is this is important.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Is he the matchup you want in terms of who
is going to be on the ballot for the Democrats
at the top of this fall because there's reporting that
your team is very pleased that it looks like he's
going to stay in. It's not going to be common
law and there's not going to be some third option
switch at the convention.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, there was reporting in a rag called The Atlantic.
I think they call it, and it's not a particularly
good reporter, not a particularly good magazine. And there was
some reporting there that I really wanted him. I assumed
it was going to be him. Who would assume differently?
You know, he had the nomination, right, So what am
(07:16):
I going to It's going to be somebody else. I
think that in many ways she may be easier than him,
and perhaps I'm wrong, but I've been pretty good at
this stuff over the years. I think in many ways
she may be easier than Biden. But we don't think
too much in terms of anyone else until he gets out.
(07:38):
If he gets out, I don't know that he's going
to get out. He's you know, he's proud. I don't
know if he should be proud because he's destroyed our country. Frankly,
it's been the worst president in the history of our country.
He's allowed close to twenty million people in many from
prisons and mental institutions, and many terrorists in our country.
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Right now, there's going to be an attack one hundred percent,
and he's allowed that to happen. We have the strongest
border now, we have the weakest border probably ever in
any country. There's never been a country there's never been
a border like this, but you know, and many other things,
I have to go through them. But I always assumed
I was going to be running against him. If it were,
(08:21):
I think it can only be her, because I think
you'd have a very big problem in the Democrat Party
with somebody other than her.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Do you think Barack Obama is behind trying to push
out Joe Biden at all? Do you follow kind of
this palace intrigue. It's really kind of wild. In the
two weeks since you knocked him out in the debate,
I mean, they have just spun completely out of control.
And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George Clooney comes
out and says, hey, you got to drop out. Can
you believe how much of a dumpster fire they are
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right now?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, I thought George Slooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Tolony. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, third
rate movie actor. He was a television actor who never
made really a good movie, and so he's sort of
(09:14):
third rate. He goes as a movie actor at Clark Gable.
He's not and you know, but I thought it was
I thought it was a great actor of disloyalty. And
Obama hates Biden, and Biden hates Obama. We know that
because that's been for a long time. You remember, you guys,
remember your perfect age for us. But Hillary Obama wanted Hillary,
(09:38):
not Biden. And Biden never forgot that they hate each other.
You remember when I said that Bush and Marco had
a lot of problems together, and they said, no, no, no,
we get along, we get along. I said, no, you
don't get along. You don't get along. And two debates in,
and by the way, Marco is doing very well, I
will tell you, But two debates in they started really
(09:59):
going at it. I said, I told you. And if
you remember the famous debates, we had those great debates,
the Republican debates, actually among the greatest ever. But I said,
I told you when they started going at it, well,
these two hate each other. There's no question about that.
And why wouldn't Why wouldn't Biden hate because you know,
(10:22):
he really passed a more in a more prime time period.
But I don't want to again, I don't want to
stress age because so many people I know, so many
people who are far older than Biden, who were so
so amazing. I speak with Rupert Murdoch a lot. I
think Rupert's ninety four and ninety five, that's right, so
(10:43):
he's substantially older. He's like thirteen years older than Biden.
He's he's one hundred percent sharp. He's just to.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
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Speaker 1 (12:14):
Are you already a point where you're willing to say
or that you feel strongly that a majority of the
American people have rejected the lawfair all these different uses
and abuses of the law by these crazy prosecutors against you,
because it feels like the Democrats are in a panic
(12:34):
that that hasn't worked, and if anything has actually brought
some people to your side.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think it has brought people to my side. I'm
shocked at it because it's so dirty and so vicious,
and it's used in other third world countries. We're sort
of a third world country too, by the way, because
of our voting and our voting procedures and all you know,
I had dinner last night at mar A Lago with
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the head of Hungary, Victor Orban and very strong guy.
He was. I mean, we had an amazing dinner and
we talked about the voting, and I said, what's the difference. Well,
our procedures are much more secure than yours. He just
said that, just out of the blue. He said, our
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procedures are much more strict than yours. They don't do
mail in voting, they don't do the kind of things
that we do. But they have real voting, you know,
in other words, you go and you get checked and
you have identification, and we have voting. And so Victor
will say, Victor is a strong guy, a great leader
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of that country. You know, it's a country that's doing
very well. They don't have crime, they don't have, you know,
much crime, very little. And he just said, well, you know,
our voting is so different than yours. Ours is much
more secure. And I wasn't looking for that answer. That's system.
And I had a smile to myself. And he's right.
(14:01):
Many countries, any legitimate country that has legitimate voting, it
has to be more secure than us. When you have
mail in voting and all the crazy things that we have.
There's no security there, very little. We're like a third
world country in so many ways. And when Biden did
the weaponization of the Justice Department, MDA's and attorney generals
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and as you know, he sent people to those agencies
to work there to get me. And when he did that,
I think the people really rejected it, and I think
probably it has made me more popular.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, we're talking to President Trump. Vice President, you've done
a good job. I think of creating a lot of
different drama associated with who the vice president is going
to be. Can you tell us have you made up
your mind on your pick yet? And second part of that,
have you decided on how the vice president is going
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to be?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
An ant?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say, no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be you know, or just slightly
before the convention like Monday. Love to do it on
(15:23):
Tuesday or Wednesday actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand, you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
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or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offered? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? Have
you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of The Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people, and
they're really good. I got to know them very well.
I'd say four people, you know, four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know,
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I had. There were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So it's still open, though, sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is that right? You're still thinking it over?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct. You know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Tim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
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He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television,
who was incredible. JD's been great. You have a man
named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota. And
you know it says state that's very very pressed. It
was very successful, and he's done a good job there.
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You have. You have some terrific people.
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Speaker 1 (18:16):
Chance of President Trump to close us out here to
tell everybody all across the country who's listing millions of
people who are feeling optimistic but also don't want to
get ahead of themselves, how should they be feeling as
we're going into the absolute peak of this election cycle.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Given your numbers and where you are.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I think it's the most important election in the
history of our country. We have an open border that's
a disastrous as sieve, it's an open wound, and people
are coming into our country that shouldn't be here, and
we cannot let this happen, and we're going to have
to move them out. We'll have to deport them. We'll
be doing a large depation. We have no choice. They're prisoners,
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their mental institution, people from mental institutions, and you can
look all over the world where they've done this. They're
moving them into our country. They're doing it purposely. The
governments of those countries, many countries, not just South America,
and their crime rates there way down. Venezuela, their crime
rate is down by seventy two percent. Wouldn't we be
(19:23):
nice if we had a crime rate that went our
crime rates? Our crime rates are going up because we're
taking all these prisoners and all these people from other countries.
But you take a look at El salvad Or, take
a look at these countries. Their crime rates are way
down because they're deporting their criminals, their drug dealers, and
they're emptying out their jails into our country. How stupid
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can we be? But I'd say, with everything, and it's so,
that's a tremendous problem that we have that we shouldn't
have had. You know, we wouldn't have had that problem,
We wouldn't have had the war in Ukraine. Think about it.
You wouldn't have had Russia attack in Ukraine. There's no
way you would have done it. Had a good relationship
with both of them, you would have it wouldn't have happened.
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You wouldn't have had China looking very violently at Taiwan.
I don't see what's going to happen there, but could happen.
They certainly, they certainly are threatening right now. But you
wouldn't have that, and you wouldn't have inflation. You wouldn't
have had the attack on Israel. That would have never happened.
Aren had no money, they were broke with sanctions, they
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were literally broke. There was no terror. I had no
terror during my administration. We had no terror attacks. And
now it's like terrible what's happening, and all over the world.
The whole world is exploding. And Victor Orban actually said,
the only thing you can do is get Trump back.
He kept everything. I kept things in order. You wouldn't
have had all of these. Every one of these events,
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including inflation, you wouldn't have had that was caused by
stupid energy policies of this administration. It was caused by energy.
The cost of energy. So well, we're going to make
our country great again. We're going to have a big,
a really big week, and I think it's going to
be very inspiring. I hope so. And we have to
get back to business. We have to get back to
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running the country the way it should be. We have
to stop the crime our cities are. In Chicago, last week,
one hundred and seventeen people were shot and seventeen died.
That's a war zone that's worse than most war zones.
You don't have that happening. That's not happening in Afghanistan.
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That's not happening in other places that you think of
being a violent country. Chicago, think of it. One hundred
and seventeen people were shot over the weekend. Now it
was a big weekend, like what we're adding an extra day.
Seventeen died.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well, mister President, we are so thankful both for the
time that you've given us today and also that you
are in this fight and that you're going to take
it to the very end here and this will lie
and so many people here are thinking about you, supporting
you and praying for you as you do. So thank
you so much again for coming on Clan buck Well.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Thank you, and you have a great show, and I
appreciate it, and it's an honor to be honored. And
I'll see you guys soon. Thank you very much, Thank
you sir.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
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Speaker 1 (23:58):
So how did the Democrat apparatus respond to the Biden
press Conferencesory? By the way, it ate up like my
whole evening. I'm just gonna say it, Okay, Clay, you know,
I was supposed to be what was it, six thirty,
and then they delayed it to seven, and then they
were half an hour. And I also think that part
of it was just he had to get to he
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had to do effectively an hour, because then that just
becomes its own talking point of like he did an
hour long press conference. Joe Biden just fine, now you
are hearing from there. There are still some skeptics out there.
There are still people that recognize that Joe Biden's brain
doesn't work very well. But I mean, look, he was
never a smart guy either. That's you know, he's always
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been a grinning, glad handing, slimy, disingenuous does whatever the
Democrat Party wants him to do and that benefits him
guy like he's not. He's never been some towering intellect.
But anyway, obviously now the neurons aren't firing the way
they're supposed to. But here is, for example, somebody who
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has a substantially higher IQ. Rachel Maddow, who I want
you to hear. Clay and I were just talking about
it a second ago. I want you all to hear
how Madao discussed Biden's press conference play this is cut ten.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
He is just fundamentally right on foreign policy in the
way that he talks about it. And again your mileage mayvari.
That is how I feel about the way he talks
about our relationship with our allies and our relationship with NATO.
You can hear his command of the issues, particularly in
his asides, like mentioning as an offhand way that it
was Turkey really that needed really to be talked into,
an expansion of NATO that included Finlin and Sweden, talking
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about the numbers of Russian troop losses in Ukraine, talking
about the fact that he turned in his notes after
he spoke privately with President She alluding to the fact
that Trump had all those weird meetings with the Russians
and Putin in which he had no note taker present.
I mean, it's even in the little as signs where
it just shows you he is a master of the
foreign policy field and has been for decades in his
career in the Senate, vice president and the presidency.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
A master of the foreign policy field. Clay, They're they're
gonna you're gonna start to hear more of this. Joe Biden.
Not sharp as attack, but.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A master of the foreign policy field.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
You know, I was watching the press conference, and I'm
not surprised that that's the Rachel Maddow take because now
they're starting to recognize that Biden may well refuse to
step down, and so they're now they're gonna have to
build him back up after tearing him down. I think
you'll start to see that a lot at MSNBC and
CNN if he continues to stay in this race. I
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was actually more disappointed in the media than I was
in Biden, by which I mean, we know what Joe
Biden is. He's gonna raise his voice randomly, he's gonna
whisper creepily, he's gonna say anyway after giving some sort
of meandering response, and he's gonna be coughing, and he
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is going to sound like a guy not that in
control of his mental and physical faculties. He's going to
flip flop names. All those things we saw that we
expected to see it. The media was so bad, and
I know that they gave a list and it should
be a bigger storyline that Biden walks out there with
a list of names that he has been provided from
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all the people that he's going to call on. That's
an embarrassment to the media. You shouldn't allow that to happen.
And the way that they questioned him. Several of the
questions to me seemed designed to filibuster. One of the
questions was, I mean, first of all, anybody asking about NATO.
I understand it was a NATO related event. No one
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in America cares about Joe Biden's opinion on NATO right now,
He's talked about it, Adam Finitem, nothing has changed. All
we care about is his mental and physical capacity as
it relates to domestic policy. And I bet forty to
fifty percent of the questions dealt with foreign affairs that
had nothing to do with what most Americans care about
right now. And that's kind of an IQ test for
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the media, right not what you want to ask about.
What does the American public care about? Because in theory,
you are the steward of the American public there to
ask questions that they cannot ask. Like with Trump, I
try to think when we talk to him, if I
wasn't sitting here on this radio show, what would I
want to hear if I were riding around in my
(28:23):
car right now? What would I want to hear if
I'm listening on podcasts? Because we're not just focused on
ourselves in an interview like that, it's an opportunity for
them to talk to everyone. And if we miss something
that's really good or that should have absolutely been asked,
we're going to hear from all of you about it.
So we know that too, Right, If we don't ask
the question that needed to be asked, we're going to
(28:44):
hear that we missed, So we try to make sure
that we avoid that one. That's why that anticipation of
what should be or is necessary for the asking and
some fun stuff obviously too, especially with Trump. He's so
fun to talk to. I mean, we only hung out
with him for a little bit this morning, but you know,
you could sit down with guy for hours.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
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show Buck. What did you think of And for those
of you who did not hear it, maybe you're just
starting off your day with us. Trump was with us
for our one on the program. We're going to replay
that on our three. So if you're in your car,
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don't want to download podcasts. You're not necessarily wanting to
listen to something off your phone. Trump will be we'll
replay at an hour three.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
But we asked him about VP and he specifically mentioned
four names, Marco Rubio, Doug Burgum, Tim.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Scott and JD. Vance.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Not a huge surprise. There have been reports out there
that Rubyo, Burgham and Vance might be the final three.
He said he's got four or five names and he
has not made a choice yet, So two parts. Do
you think that he has made a choice. He told
us that he would like to announce it next week
at the RNC. That obviously would create a massive amount
(31:17):
of buzz. Do you think the selection will be one
of those four names or do you think Trump is
keeping one name in his back pocket that's in play
that could be played as a surprise A Glenn Youngkin
for instance, Vivek Ramaswami at Tulsi Gabbard, any chance any
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of those are still in play? How would you assess
the beepsteaks?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You know?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
With Trump?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You never know, because I think he is going to
make sure that he plays this for maximum effect. And
I really did get the sense from the conversation with
him today that he has not made a decision. I
think that his decision could change, you know, a few times,
even between now and when it actually comes out. And
(32:07):
it's interesting to me because I think that the there's
more of a focus on whether this is going to
matter for his election effort than there is on I think,
at least from from the media perspective, what this means
for the Republican Party going forward. And I actually think
the latter, the latter thing is the bigger thing, that
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this vice president is less an adornment for the current
ticket to help Trump. This is a Trump election, right,
I mean, there's no getting around the fact that on
the Republican side, it's Trump's party and he is not
just at the top of the ticket. He is the ticket.
I don't think anyone, you know, Pence, people thought maybe
(32:49):
gave a little more comfort to some of the evangelicals.
A lot of Trump's most fervent supporters are the evangelical community.
So I don't know if Pence was really necessary. But
this time around, everyone's going to talk about it as
part of this election cycle first and foremost, and I
think the more important thing is if you pick, depending
on who the candidate is, if you pick somebody like
(33:11):
A A. Vance or Rubio, I don't know, Maybe Doug
Bergen wants the big job himself at some point in
the future. This is big for that, more so in
my mind even than how it will affect now and election. Dad,
this is a Biden Trump election.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
This is a Trump Biden election. However you want to
phrase it. The vice presidents are going to be distant
and very second in mind as this goes forward. We've
talked a lot about Buck Island, and yeah, a lot
of emails, a lot of people inquiring about I don't know,
some of you are a little late, a little late
to Buck Island.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Well, this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
You on your bet for VP, maybe in stronger ground
than even on whether Biden's going to stay in, because
the gambling markets have it still sixty percent that Biden's
going to get forced out. But JD. Vance has now
taken a commanding lead as the VP pick. He is
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up to nearly even money, that is you can basically
get for those of you who are gamblers, the odds
are such that it's like jd vance or the field.
That means that you could choose based on the gambling markets,
somebody else or jd vance. That's how much of a favorite,
basically even money he's become. And so you may nail
(34:33):
that one because to your credit, when you started saying
jd vance, he was pretty far down the bochart of
potential VP.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He was like fifth sixth in the UH in the
runnings in terms of the the betting markets and and
the you know that there were a lot of other
people who were ahead of them, uh and and ahead
of him, And I, yeah, I may have nailed that one.
I don't know if I nail them both. I don't
know what happens. But it's a good day for Buck Island.
That's all that I know.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So so this decision, I think also plays in to
your point, Buck, what for the VP. To me, what
stands out is if he picks jd vance and jd
vance is now the favorite. If you look at gambling
markets and tens of millions of dollars are being bet
on this, so people are putting real money down. Jd
(35:23):
vance to me, becomes a huge favorite to be if
Trump wins to be the nominee in twenty eight, because
he would have access to everyone. I think JD is
only thirty nine years old, Am I right about that?
He would also be the youngest vice president that we
have had in generations, I think, and he would become
(35:47):
a real favorite to be the nominee in twenty eight,
Whereas if you picked somebody like Doug Bergham, who is
one of the other finalists. I don't know that a
lot of people out there are saying, Hey, Doug Bergham's
going to clear the field.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I don't does that make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
To me, JD feels more like a deputization of the
future of the Trump movement than some of these other selections.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
If Trump goes for elder statesman along alongside him on
the ticket, to me, that's just this guy or gal
is my you know, is my second for my administration.
But it's not supposed to be necessarily an elevation, a
little bit like Biden was under Obama for eight years.
But I think although we all know that went in
a different direction. I think that if it's somebody who's
(36:37):
the next generation of Republican leadership, that could be a
big deal. But I'll tell you I still think that
you would probably have a pretty lively primary, Oh sir,
after you know, No matter what, I think that the
people will decide. I don't think anyone's gonna convince, you know,
Vivek not to run again. He likes he likes media,
he likes talking. I don't think he's going to all
(36:58):
of a sudden decide he's not going to want to
be on the debate stage in twenty eight among others.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
By the way, there are many.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And by the way, a lot of people also set
out twenty four. Like I would think DeSantis would run,
I would think young Kid would run, I would think
Ted Cruz would run. There are a lot of people
that have been in the mix that set out for
twenty four. Or to Nicky Haley tossed their names in
the ring. I think we'll have twenty five people announced.
But it would make JD I think the favorite in
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the early primary part.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
One of the funniest things that I've heard a lot.
And does anyone to guess what I was watching this morning?
Oh yeah, starts with the morning ends with a Joe baby.
I was watching some morning Joe Carrie's so funny now.
She just like, I come downstairs. My Crockett coffee is
ready Crocketcoffee dot com. Everybody, My Crockett coffee is ready.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Joe is already on the TV screen for me. She goes, Okay, Honey,
I'm like, oh, you're the best wife. And I was
watching it. But you know what they love to say, well,
you know, and they say it as though it's just
the most obvious thing that they say it, as though
there could be no dispute or debate about it. They're
just like, well, the Democrats have such a deep bench.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
We sit there. I'm like, they do. I mean, let's
let's just take a moment here. I mean, when you
run down, you just.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Rattled off a bunch of names on the Republican side
who you know, whether you love them or not.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And some of them you probably do love.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But they're very smart, very serious people.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
You know. You know.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Ted Cruz is a senator. Ted Cruz could also be
a state attorney general. Ted Cruse could also be a
Supreme Court justice. Like, you know, these are serious, smart guy.
He could be successful in many different endeavories. Glen Glenn
Youngkin was the CEO of one of the biggest and
most successful private equity firms in the entire United States,
and made hundreds of millions of dollars, didn't inherit it
and made it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Okay, So you know, these are serious people.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You look on the other side, you got the fake
Native America and Elizabeth Warren without her fake Native americanness.
By the way, he doesn't even have a legal teaching
or Senate career. Just let's be honest about this. Bernie Sanders,
who is like a cartoon character. Okay, he's like a
cartoon character socialist.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
They bring up Gretchen he or Pete just the gay
dude who.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Happened to be mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and somehow
he's now like one of the top contenders to be president,
and he's made Transportation Secretary an infamous position now.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And then you know, you look at who else they
talk about, Gavin Newsom, and you see, this is Gavin
Newsom is the slimiest politician you could ever find. He's
actually kind of like a young Joe Biden. There's a
lot of similarity between the two of them. And you know,
I just think it's funny because they say like, oh,
we have such a deep bench, Clay.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
If they had such a deep bench, they wouldn't be
in this conundrum. Yes, yeah, and look the people they love.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Gretchen Whitmer, who has an evil, wicked Witch of the
West wook about her. I can't figure out exactly what
do you know what I'm talking about? Every time I
see her on television, I'm like, you look like the
person who's trying to kill snow White. That's ever. Every
time I see Gretchen Whitmer, I'm like, you look like
you're gonna take snow White and try to take our heart.
(40:09):
And then you got Jamie Pritzker, who's a billionaire sky
on I think of the Marriott or Hilton or whatever,
but he weighs like four hundred and fifty pounds. I
don't I really think their bench. The problem is that
it's all identity politics driven as opposed to merit driven,
(40:30):
and so there are a lot of people in the
Democrat upper echelon that could not and have not been
successful in other facets of life that are in politics.
Joe Biden's a perfect example of this. We come back, Buck,
there's a good audio clip. You know who what people
are now saying. We've been saying this for a couple
of years. John Stewart said, Hey, could Joe Biden do
a job at like your local home depot. Now everybody
(40:53):
is saying what we've been saying for a few years,
even in the comedic space where they're actually just being
honest and looking at some of this and saying, oh, yeah,
this guy couldn't do any job, much less president of
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
We have a.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Fantastic guest to start us off today, President Trump himself
is joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Mister President, I appreciate you being with us.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So let's start with how you think it went. I'm
sure you saw at least some of the Biden press
conference yesterday in the evening. What's your takeaway? Because the
New York Times and a lot of others seem like
they thought it could be the end, but doesn't really
seem like the end.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that. It's very hard to do anything else. But
I thought the worst part of the press conference was
the moment during the day when he introduced Zelensky and
(01:00):
he introduced him as Vladimir Putin. That was not good.
That was unpardonable. You can't do that. You know, there
are things you can do and things you can't do.
That was a bad one. So he introduced them as
Putin and then I guess somebody started screaming at him,
and he corrected as much as you can. You know
(01:23):
that doesn't get corrected very easily. So he went in
there with the yips. I think he went into the
press conference with the yips because, frankly, if he were
Winston Churchill, who was not bad at press conferences, by
the way, if he were Winston Churchill, his press conference
was going to work out too well because of what
happened previous.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Talking to President Trump here, I appreciate you starting off
the show here with us. When you look at the
way that Biden performed against you and you knocked him
out on June twenty seventh, I mean you're a boxing fan,
you're a UFC fan. I mean he was done, and
I know you've challenged him to other debates, But does
(02:03):
a part of you feel like you were basically Mike
Tyson and he was you know, Spinks, and you knocked
him out. Why does he deserve a chance to get
back in the ring with you, Because usually when you
get knocked out, you don't get antermediate rematch. If it
goes to the judge, goes to the scorecard, maybe you
get the rematch you know the story does a party
you feel like, Yeah, I've dismissed this guy. I knocked
(02:24):
him out. We don't even need a debate again.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Well, remember he offered to do the debate. But they
took everything that they wanted. They had seats right, they
had the anchors that they wanted, and they had every
single element of the debate that they wanted. They even
wanted it sitting down. That was the only thing I said, Look,
let's stand up for a little while. That would look terrible.
So although debates have been done sitting down and probably successfully,
(02:49):
but I start standing up with a better look. The
one thing he wanted was the lecter, and he wanted
the one on the left, and so he got that,
and I guess something that I wanted, which was to
go last. But it was a very interesting evening when
I when I walked in, I noticed he was quite
pale and didn't really look at him very much until
(03:11):
he started gaffing. And he was he was doing some
He was saying some bad things, meaning like words didn't
belong in the right place. Words were going into the
wrong place, lots of words, but they were not being
properly placed. And that was the only time I really
looked over at him, but I thought it was you know, look,
(03:31):
I've been given credit for a great debate. I don't
know what happened to him. He didn't do too well,
and that was the beginning of a long period of time.
You know, he's had numerous chances to make up for it.
They've given him many chances to make up for it.
And you know I wouldn't. It was certainly not like
the debate. I don't think he's had any moment. You
(03:53):
could tell me better than I would know, but I
would say that they haven't been stellar these makeups. Last
night was not a stellar performance. Again, the gaff he
made earlier and was bad, but last night was not stellar.
He called me as vice president, and he didn't do
it sarcastically. By the way, if he did it sarcastically,
(04:15):
it would have been great. But it wasn't done sarcastically.
So he called me, and he made quite a few
other mistakes, but it wasn't like a total disaster.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Now, the debate was a.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Disaster for him, there's no question about it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
President Trump.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I assume he looked forward to a second debate were
supposed to be doing a second debate in September. Oh
do the television networks look forward to that one.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But so you're willing to give him a rematch, because
I actually think that's kind of you, given the fact
that you knocked him out. I mean again, like Mike
Tyson didn't immediately say okay, get in the ring against Sphinx.
I kind of feel like he was flat on the
you know, on the canvas, looking up at you. But
that seems kind Maybe you could knock him out again.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think we owe it maybe to the public to
do it, you know, I think you have an obligation
to sort of do it. You're the Republican nominee and
you're the Democrat nominee, and I think maybe to an extent,
we owe it to the public to do it, if
that makes sense. Yeah, But I actually, I actually was
(05:21):
suggesting yesterday maybe you'll have a first of this that
we go in together, because I am cognitively great, perfect
and I've had tests. I do it routine, you know,
whenever I do. I just did a physical, by the way,
and I came out perfectly. We'll announce those numbers soon
or whatever I have to announce. But but I suggest
(05:45):
that we go in together and do a cognitive test.
We'll do cognitive tests. We'll do it together like a team.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Would you do it on television live, like a cognitive
cognitive test on television with him?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I would do whatever they want. I'd do the test.
I'd do mental acuity tests with him. I would do
whatever whatever it would be appropriate. But they have actually tests,
they have scanning tests, lots of different tests. And I
actually feel that anybody running from not age wise. I
(06:19):
mean I've spoken to, I deal with people that are
much older than Biden. They are one hundred percent. You know,
Biden is unusual in a way, But I've spoken to
people much older than him and they're one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is he the matchup you want on President Trump? This
is this is important.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Is he the matchup you want in terms of who
is going to be on the ballot for the Democrats
at the top of this fall because there's reporting that
your team is very pleased that it looks like he's
going to stay in. It's not going to be common
law and there's not going to be some third option
switch at the convention.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, there was reporting in a rag called The Atlantic.
I think they call it, and it's not a particularly
good reporter, not a particularly good magazine. And there was
some reporting there that I really wanted him. I assumed
it was going to be him. Who would assume differently?
You know, he had the nomination, right, So what am
(07:16):
I going to It's going to be somebody else. I
think that in many ways she may be easier than him,
and perhaps I'm wrong, but I've been pretty good at
this stuff over the years. I think in many ways
she may be easier than Biden. But we don't think
too much in terms of anyone else until he gets out.
(07:38):
If he gets out, I don't know that he's going
to get out. He's you know, he's proud. I don't
know if he should be proud because he's destroyed our country. Frankly,
it's been the worst president in the history of our country.
He's allowed close to twenty million people in many from
prisons and mental institutions, and many terrorists in our country.
(07:58):
Right now, there's going to be an attack one hundred percent,
and he's allowed that to happen. We have the strongest
border now, we have the weakest border probably ever in
any country. There's never been a country there's never been
a border like this, but you know, and many other things,
I have to go through them. But I always assumed
I was going to be running against him. If it were,
(08:21):
I think it can only be her, because I think
you'd have a very big problem in the Democrat Party
with somebody other than her.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Do you think Barack Obama is behind trying to push
out Joe Biden at all? Do you follow kind of
this palace intrigue. It's really kind of wild. In the
two weeks since you knocked him out in the debate,
I mean, they have just spun completely out of control.
And I've been reading that Barack Obama, George Clooney comes
out and says, hey, you got to drop out. Can
you believe how much of a dumpster fire they are
(08:51):
right now?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, I thought George Slooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Tolony. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, third
rate movie actor. He was a television actor who never
made really a good movie, and so he's sort of
(09:14):
third rate. He goes as a movie actor at Clark Gable.
He's not and you know, but I thought it was
I thought it was a great actor of disloyalty. And
Obama hates Biden, and Biden hates Obama. We know that
because that's been for a long time. You remember, you guys,
remember your perfect age for us. But Hillary Obama wanted Hillary,
(09:38):
not Biden. And Biden never forgot that they hate each other.
You remember when I said that Bush and Marco had
a lot of problems together, and they said, no, no, no,
we get along, we get along. I said, no, you
don't get along. You don't get along. And two debates in,
and by the way, Marco is doing very well, I
will tell you, But two debates in they started really
(09:59):
going at it. I said, I told you. And if
you remember the famous debates, we had those great debates,
the Republican debates, actually among the greatest ever. But I said,
I told you when they started going at it, well,
these two hate each other. There's no question about that.
And why wouldn't Why wouldn't Biden hate because you know,
(10:22):
he really passed a more in a more prime time period.
But I don't want to again, I don't want to
stress age because so many people I know, so many
people who are far older than Biden, who were so
so amazing. I speak with Rupert Murdoch a lot. I
think Rupert's ninety four and ninety five, that's right, so
(10:43):
he's substantially older. He's like thirteen years older than Biden.
He's he's one hundred percent sharp. He's just to.
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or that you feel strongly that a majority of the
American people have rejected the lawfair all these different uses
and abuses of the law by these crazy prosecutors against you,
because it feels like the Democrats are in a panic
(12:34):
that that hasn't worked, and if anything has actually brought
some people to your side.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I think it has brought people to my side. I'm
shocked at it because it's so dirty and so vicious,
and it's used in other third world countries. We're sort
of a third world country too, by the way, because
of our voting and our voting procedures and all you know,
I had dinner last night at mar A Lago with
(13:00):
the head of Hungary, Victor Orban and very strong guy.
He was. I mean, we had an amazing dinner and
we talked about the voting, and I said, what's the difference. Well,
our procedures are much more secure than yours. He just
said that, just out of the blue. He said, our
(13:20):
procedures are much more strict than yours. They don't do
mail in voting, they don't do the kind of things
that we do. But they have real voting, you know,
in other words, you go and you get checked and
you have identification, and we have voting. And so Victor
will say, Victor is a strong guy, a great leader
(13:41):
of that country. You know, it's a country that's doing
very well. They don't have crime, they don't have, you know,
much crime, very little. And he just said, well, you know,
our voting is so different than yours. Ours is much
more secure. And I wasn't looking for that answer. That's system.
And I had a smile to myself. And he's right.
(14:01):
Many countries, any legitimate country that has legitimate voting, it
has to be more secure than us. When you have
mail in voting and all the crazy things that we have.
There's no security there, very little. We're like a third
world country in so many ways. And when Biden did
the weaponization of the Justice Department, MDA's and attorney generals
(14:25):
and as you know, he sent people to those agencies
to work there to get me. And when he did that,
I think the people really rejected it, and I think
probably it has made me more popular.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah, we're talking to President Trump. Vice President, you've done
a good job. I think of creating a lot of
different drama associated with who the vice president is going
to be. Can you tell us have you made up
your mind on your pick yet? And second part of that,
have you decided on how the vice president is going
(14:59):
to be?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
An ant?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say, no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be you know, or just slightly
before the convention like Monday. Love to do it on
(15:23):
Tuesday or Wednesday actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand, you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
(15:43):
or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Like?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offered? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? Have
you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of The Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people, and
they're really good. I got to know them very well.
I'd say four people, you know, four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know,
(16:25):
I had. There were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
So it's still open, though, sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Is that right? You're still thinking it over?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct. You know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Tim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
(16:59):
He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television,
who was incredible. JD's been great. You have a man
named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota. And
you know it says state that's very very pressed. It
was very successful, and he's done a good job there.
(17:20):
You have. You have some terrific people.
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Chance of President Trump to close us out here to
tell everybody all across the country who's listing millions of
people who are feeling optimistic but also don't want to
get ahead of themselves, how should they be feeling as
we're going into the absolute peak of this election cycle.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Given your numbers and where you are.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I think it's the most important election in the
history of our country. We have an open border that's
a disastrous as sieve, it's an open wound, and people
are coming into our country that shouldn't be here, and
we cannot let this happen, and we're going to have
to move them out. We'll have to deport them. We'll
be doing a large depation. We have no choice. They're prisoners,
(19:02):
their mental institution, people from mental institutions, and you can
look all over the world where they've done this. They're
moving them into our country. They're doing it purposely. The
governments of those countries, many countries, not just South America,
and their crime rates there way down. Venezuela, their crime
rate is down by seventy two percent. Wouldn't we be
(19:23):
nice if we had a crime rate that went our
crime rates? Our crime rates are going up because we're
taking all these prisoners and all these people from other countries.
But you take a look at El salvad Or, take
a look at these countries. Their crime rates are way
down because they're deporting their criminals, their drug dealers, and
they're emptying out their jails into our country. How stupid
(19:44):
can we be? But I'd say, with everything, and it's so,
that's a tremendous problem that we have that we shouldn't
have had. You know, we wouldn't have had that problem,
We wouldn't have had the war in Ukraine. Think about it.
You wouldn't have had Russia attack in Ukraine. There's no
way you would have done it. Had a good relationship
with both of them, you would have it wouldn't have happened.
(20:05):
You wouldn't have had China looking very violently at Taiwan.
I don't see what's going to happen there, but could happen.
They certainly, they certainly are threatening right now. But you
wouldn't have that, and you wouldn't have inflation. You wouldn't
have had the attack on Israel. That would have never happened.
Aren had no money, they were broke with sanctions, they
(20:27):
were literally broke. There was no terror. I had no
terror during my administration. We had no terror attacks. And
now it's like terrible what's happening, and all over the world.
The whole world is exploding. And Victor Orban actually said,
the only thing you can do is get Trump back.
He kept everything. I kept things in order. You wouldn't
have had all of these. Every one of these events,
(20:50):
including inflation, you wouldn't have had that was caused by
stupid energy policies of this administration. It was caused by energy.
The cost of energy. So well, we're going to make
our country great again. We're going to have a big,
a really big week, and I think it's going to
be very inspiring. I hope so. And we have to
get back to business. We have to get back to
(21:11):
running the country the way it should be. We have
to stop the crime our cities are. In Chicago, last week,
one hundred and seventeen people were shot and seventeen died.
That's a war zone that's worse than most war zones.
You don't have that happening. That's not happening in Afghanistan.
(21:33):
That's not happening in other places that you think of
being a violent country. Chicago, think of it. One hundred
and seventeen people were shot over the weekend. Now it
was a big weekend, like what we're adding an extra day.
Seventeen died.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Well, mister President, we are so thankful both for the
time that you've given us today and also that you
are in this fight and that you're going to take
it to the very end here and this will lie
and so many people here are thinking about you, supporting
you and praying for you as you do. So thank
you so much again for coming on Clan buck Well.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Thank you, and you have a great show, and I
appreciate it, and it's an honor to be honored. And
I'll see you guys soon. Thank you very much, Thank
you sir.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
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Speaker 1 (23:58):
So how did the Democrat apparatus respond to the Biden
press Conferencesory? By the way, it ate up like my
whole evening. I'm just gonna say it, Okay, Clay, you know,
I was supposed to be what was it, six thirty,
and then they delayed it to seven, and then they
were half an hour. And I also think that part
of it was just he had to get to he
(24:20):
had to do effectively an hour, because then that just
becomes its own talking point of like he did an
hour long press conference. Joe Biden just fine, now you
are hearing from there. There are still some skeptics out there.
There are still people that recognize that Joe Biden's brain
doesn't work very well. But I mean, look, he was
never a smart guy either. That's you know, he's always
(24:41):
been a grinning, glad handing, slimy, disingenuous does whatever the
Democrat Party wants him to do and that benefits him
guy like he's not. He's never been some towering intellect.
But anyway, obviously now the neurons aren't firing the way
they're supposed to. But here is, for example, somebody who
(25:02):
has a substantially higher IQ. Rachel Maddow, who I want
you to hear. Clay and I were just talking about
it a second ago. I want you all to hear
how Madao discussed Biden's press conference play this is cut ten.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
He is just fundamentally right on foreign policy in the
way that he talks about it. And again your mileage mayvari.
That is how I feel about the way he talks
about our relationship with our allies and our relationship with NATO.
You can hear his command of the issues, particularly in
his asides, like mentioning as an offhand way that it
was Turkey really that needed really to be talked into,
an expansion of NATO that included Finlin and Sweden, talking
(25:39):
about the numbers of Russian troop losses in Ukraine, talking
about the fact that he turned in his notes after
he spoke privately with President She alluding to the fact
that Trump had all those weird meetings with the Russians
and Putin in which he had no note taker present.
I mean, it's even in the little as signs where
it just shows you he is a master of the
foreign policy field and has been for decades in his
career in the Senate, vice president and the presidency.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
A master of the foreign policy field. Clay, They're they're
gonna you're gonna start to hear more of this. Joe Biden.
Not sharp as attack, but.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
A master of the foreign policy field.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
You know, I was watching the press conference, and I'm
not surprised that that's the Rachel Maddow take because now
they're starting to recognize that Biden may well refuse to
step down, and so they're now they're gonna have to
build him back up after tearing him down. I think
you'll start to see that a lot at MSNBC and
CNN if he continues to stay in this race. I
(26:38):
was actually more disappointed in the media than I was
in Biden, by which I mean, we know what Joe
Biden is. He's gonna raise his voice randomly, he's gonna
whisper creepily, he's gonna say anyway after giving some sort
of meandering response, and he's gonna be coughing, and he
(26:59):
is going to sound like a guy not that in
control of his mental and physical faculties. He's going to
flip flop names. All those things we saw that we
expected to see it. The media was so bad, and
I know that they gave a list and it should
be a bigger storyline that Biden walks out there with
a list of names that he has been provided from
(27:20):
all the people that he's going to call on. That's
an embarrassment to the media. You shouldn't allow that to happen.
And the way that they questioned him. Several of the
questions to me seemed designed to filibuster. One of the
questions was, I mean, first of all, anybody asking about NATO.
I understand it was a NATO related event. No one
(27:41):
in America cares about Joe Biden's opinion on NATO right now,
He's talked about it, Adam Finitem, nothing has changed. All
we care about is his mental and physical capacity as
it relates to domestic policy. And I bet forty to
fifty percent of the questions dealt with foreign affairs that
had nothing to do with what most Americans care about
right now. And that's kind of an IQ test for
(28:01):
the media, right not what you want to ask about.
What does the American public care about? Because in theory,
you are the steward of the American public there to
ask questions that they cannot ask. Like with Trump, I
try to think when we talk to him, if I
wasn't sitting here on this radio show, what would I
want to hear if I were riding around in my
(28:23):
car right now? What would I want to hear if
I'm listening on podcasts? Because we're not just focused on
ourselves in an interview like that, it's an opportunity for
them to talk to everyone. And if we miss something
that's really good or that should have absolutely been asked,
we're going to hear from all of you about it.
So we know that too, Right, If we don't ask
the question that needed to be asked, we're going to
(28:44):
hear that we missed, So we try to make sure
that we avoid that one. That's why that anticipation of
what should be or is necessary for the asking and
some fun stuff obviously too, especially with Trump. He's so
fun to talk to. I mean, we only hung out
with him for a little bit this morning, but you know,
you could sit down with guy for hours.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
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of you who did not hear it, maybe you're just
starting off your day with us. Trump was with us
for our one on the program. We're going to replay
that on our three. So if you're in your car,
(30:29):
you have a buddy or somebody that you think would
have enjoyed listening to it. Obviously, you can go podcasts,
but I know a lot of people out there they
don't want to download podcasts. You're not necessarily wanting to
listen to something off your phone. Trump will be we'll
replay at an hour three.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
But we asked him about VP and he specifically mentioned
four names, Marco Rubio, Doug Burgum, Tim.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Scott and JD. Vance.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Not a huge surprise. There have been reports out there
that Rubyo, Burgham and Vance might be the final three.
He said he's got four or five names and he
has not made a choice yet, So two parts. Do
you think that he has made a choice. He told
us that he would like to announce it next week
at the RNC. That obviously would create a massive amount
(31:17):
of buzz. Do you think the selection will be one
of those four names or do you think Trump is
keeping one name in his back pocket that's in play
that could be played as a surprise A Glenn Youngkin
for instance, Vivek Ramaswami at Tulsi Gabbard, any chance any
(31:39):
of those are still in play? How would you assess
the beepsteaks?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You know?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
With Trump?
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You never know, because I think he is going to
make sure that he plays this for maximum effect. And
I really did get the sense from the conversation with
him today that he has not made a decision. I
think that his decision could change, you know, a few times,
even between now and when it actually comes out. And
(32:07):
it's interesting to me because I think that the there's
more of a focus on whether this is going to
matter for his election effort than there is on I think,
at least from from the media perspective, what this means
for the Republican Party going forward. And I actually think
the latter, the latter thing is the bigger thing, that
(32:28):
this vice president is less an adornment for the current
ticket to help Trump. This is a Trump election, right,
I mean, there's no getting around the fact that on
the Republican side, it's Trump's party and he is not
just at the top of the ticket. He is the ticket.
I don't think anyone, you know, Pence, people thought maybe
(32:49):
gave a little more comfort to some of the evangelicals.
A lot of Trump's most fervent supporters are the evangelical community.
So I don't know if Pence was really necessary. But
this time around, everyone's going to talk about it as
part of this election cycle first and foremost, and I
think the more important thing is if you pick, depending
on who the candidate is, if you pick somebody like
(33:11):
A A. Vance or Rubio, I don't know, Maybe Doug
Bergen wants the big job himself at some point in
the future. This is big for that, more so in
my mind even than how it will affect now and election. Dad,
this is a Biden Trump election.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
This is a Trump Biden election. However you want to
phrase it. The vice presidents are going to be distant
and very second in mind as this goes forward. We've
talked a lot about Buck Island, and yeah, a lot
of emails, a lot of people inquiring about I don't know,
some of you are a little late, a little late
to Buck Island.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Well, this is interesting.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
You on your bet for VP, maybe in stronger ground
than even on whether Biden's going to stay in, because
the gambling markets have it still sixty percent that Biden's
going to get forced out. But JD. Vance has now
taken a commanding lead as the VP pick. He is
(34:10):
up to nearly even money, that is you can basically
get for those of you who are gamblers, the odds
are such that it's like jd vance or the field.
That means that you could choose based on the gambling markets,
somebody else or jd vance. That's how much of a favorite,
basically even money he's become. And so you may nail
(34:33):
that one because to your credit, when you started saying
jd vance, he was pretty far down the bochart of
potential VP.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He was like fifth sixth in the UH in the
runnings in terms of the the betting markets and and
the you know that there were a lot of other
people who were ahead of them, uh and and ahead
of him, And I, yeah, I may have nailed that one.
I don't know if I nail them both. I don't
know what happens. But it's a good day for Buck Island.
That's all that I know.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So so this decision, I think also plays in to
your point, Buck, what for the VP. To me, what
stands out is if he picks jd vance and jd
vance is now the favorite. If you look at gambling
markets and tens of millions of dollars are being bet
on this, so people are putting real money down. Jd
(35:23):
vance to me, becomes a huge favorite to be if
Trump wins to be the nominee in twenty eight, because
he would have access to everyone. I think JD is
only thirty nine years old, Am I right about that?
He would also be the youngest vice president that we
have had in generations, I think, and he would become
(35:47):
a real favorite to be the nominee in twenty eight,
Whereas if you picked somebody like Doug Bergham, who is
one of the other finalists. I don't know that a
lot of people out there are saying, Hey, Doug Bergham's
going to clear the field.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I don't does that make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
To me, JD feels more like a deputization of the
future of the Trump movement than some of these other selections.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
If Trump goes for elder statesman along alongside him on
the ticket, to me, that's just this guy or gal
is my you know, is my second for my administration.
But it's not supposed to be necessarily an elevation, a
little bit like Biden was under Obama for eight years.
But I think although we all know that went in
a different direction. I think that if it's somebody who's
(36:37):
the next generation of Republican leadership, that could be a
big deal. But I'll tell you I still think that
you would probably have a pretty lively primary, Oh sir,
after you know, No matter what, I think that the
people will decide. I don't think anyone's gonna convince, you know,
Vivek not to run again. He likes he likes media,
he likes talking. I don't think he's going to all
(36:58):
of a sudden decide he's not going to want to
be on the debate stage in twenty eight among others.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
By the way, there are many.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
And by the way, a lot of people also set
out twenty four. Like I would think DeSantis would run,
I would think young Kid would run, I would think
Ted Cruz would run. There are a lot of people
that have been in the mix that set out for
twenty four. Or to Nicky Haley tossed their names in
the ring. I think we'll have twenty five people announced.
But it would make JD I think the favorite in
(37:28):
the early primary part.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
One of the funniest things that I've heard a lot.
And does anyone to guess what I was watching this morning?
Oh yeah, starts with the morning ends with a Joe baby.
I was watching some morning Joe Carrie's so funny now.
She just like, I come downstairs. My Crockett coffee is
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Speaker 3 (37:46):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Joe is already on the TV screen for me. She goes, Okay, Honey,
I'm like, oh, you're the best wife. And I was
watching it. But you know what they love to say, well,
you know, and they say it as though it's just
the most obvious thing that they say it, as though
there could be no dispute or debate about it. They're
just like, well, the Democrats have such a deep bench.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
We sit there. I'm like, they do. I mean, let's
let's just take a moment here. I mean, when you
run down, you just.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Rattled off a bunch of names on the Republican side
who you know, whether you love them or not.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And some of them you probably do love.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But they're very smart, very serious people.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
You know. You know.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Ted Cruz is a senator. Ted Cruz could also be
a state attorney general. Ted Cruse could also be a
Supreme Court justice. Like, you know, these are serious, smart guy.
He could be successful in many different endeavories. Glen Glenn
Youngkin was the CEO of one of the biggest and
most successful private equity firms in the entire United States,
and made hundreds of millions of dollars, didn't inherit it
and made it.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Okay, So you know, these are serious people.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
You look on the other side, you got the fake
Native America and Elizabeth Warren without her fake Native americanness.
By the way, he doesn't even have a legal teaching
or Senate career. Just let's be honest about this. Bernie Sanders,
who is like a cartoon character. Okay, he's like a
cartoon character socialist.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
They bring up Gretchen he or Pete just the gay
dude who.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Happened to be mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and somehow
he's now like one of the top contenders to be president,
and he's made Transportation Secretary an infamous position now.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And then you know, you look at who else they
talk about, Gavin Newsom, and you see, this is Gavin
Newsom is the slimiest politician you could ever find. He's
actually kind of like a young Joe Biden. There's a
lot of similarity between the two of them. And you know,
I just think it's funny because they say like, oh,
we have such a deep bench, Clay.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
If they had such a deep bench, they wouldn't be
in this conundrum. Yes, yeah, and look the people they love.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Gretchen Whitmer, who has an evil, wicked Witch of the
West wook about her. I can't figure out exactly what
do you know what I'm talking about? Every time I
see her on television, I'm like, you look like the
person who's trying to kill snow White. That's ever. Every
time I see Gretchen Whitmer, I'm like, you look like
you're gonna take snow White and try to take our heart.
(40:09):
And then you got Jamie Pritzker, who's a billionaire sky
on I think of the Marriott or Hilton or whatever,
but he weighs like four hundred and fifty pounds. I
don't I really think their bench. The problem is that
it's all identity politics driven as opposed to merit driven,
(40:30):
and so there are a lot of people in the
Democrat upper echelon that could not and have not been
successful in other facets of life that are in politics.
Joe Biden's a perfect example of this. We come back, Buck,
there's a good audio clip. You know who what people
are now saying. We've been saying this for a couple
of years. John Stewart said, Hey, could Joe Biden do
a job at like your local home depot. Now everybody
(40:53):
is saying what we've been saying for a few years,
even in the comedic space where they're actually just being
honest and looking at some of this and saying, oh, yeah,
this guy couldn't do any job, much less president of
the United States. We'll play that more for you coming
back in the meantime. Look, the conflict in Israel, referred
to as the Swords of Iron war, started nine months
(41:15):
ago on October seventh. We've seen death and destruction in
the Holy Land since. For more than forty years, the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has been on the
ground in Israel within hours of the war starting. In
every day since, the IFCJ as they're often referred to,
has been feeding the hungry and protecting the vulnerable. The
attacks continue in the north and south in Israel, but
(41:36):
there are resilient survivors bravely sharing their stories in a
series of Fellowship called Faces of Iron. We've been sharing
on our social media accounts. I'll be over there by
the way in a couple of weeks to see this
for myself in person. I'm looking forward to that trip.
One of the stories up there about a father named Danny.
Despite being a commander of volunteer fire and Rescue, he
(41:58):
couldn't prevent his daughter's home from being burned to the
ground by Hamas Terris, with his daughter and her husband
still inside. This story one of many that underscores the
importance of supporting Israel through the International Fellowship of Christians
and Jews. It's this support that helps these survivors remain
steadfast and strong. To hear more stories like this one
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and show your support for Israel, visit SUPPORTIFCJ dot org.
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