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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. We have got
a barn burner of a show, and I feel like
we're going to have a lot of barn burners of
shows as we sit here sixty two days from the
official election. But what's wild is within about ten days
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or so, many of you are going to be able
to start to vote because we no longer have Election Day,
we have election season. And that means whatever is locked
in in the public consciousness beginning in about ten days
is going to be reflected in the vote tallies. And Buck,
as I sit here today with you in Washington, DC,
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you are in Miami. But I walked past the White
House this morning en route to go speak on the
campus of George Washington University. I took a picture of
the White House and I said, six two days until
Trump is re elected president of the United States. And
as all the stories are coming out, as poll data
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continues to arrive, it seems to me clear that there
is starting to be a bit of a panic setting
in in the Kamala Harris campaign. And what do I
mean that looks like? Well, in the last hour, CNN
has said that Russia is trying to influence the twenty
twenty four election campaign. This is a major breaking news
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from Jim Acosta, and many of you out there are
laughing at the idea. This to me is emblematic of
the challenge that Kamala Harris faces right now. She has
to convince people that after four years of disaster with
Joe Biden, after she has failed on the economy, after
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she has failed on the border, and after she has
failed on crime, that Donald Trump, aside from COVID, almost
everyone out there was doing far better in January and
February of twenty twenty than they have ever done. Mortgage
rates were down incredibly low, Inflation was almost nonexistent, your
wages were growing faster than the cost of goods. That
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all flipped economy, border crime, and they're now trying to
play the greatest Trump is Evil hits and they just
aren't registering with the general electorate because people have gotten smarter,
and they also recognize in a major way that this
is the boy who cried Wolf's scenario. And I think
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that that's the problem. They can't redefine Donald Trump. Everybody's
made up their minds and Kamala buck to me. The
more I watched, I went after we finished the show yesterday,
I went back and I watched, and I went on
with Tim caast Tempoole. I had a good discussion with
him last night. The audio of Kamala and the video
of in Detroit and Pittsburgh yesterday where she was clearly
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trying to talk differently to different audiences. The more time
people spend with Kamala, the less they like her. That
was true of Democrats in the twenty twenty presidential election
when she dropped out before a single vote has been cast.
And I think the sugar high of August has given
way to a rapidly collapsing poll data in September. I
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give you credit because you said when there was nearly
the peak about two weeks ago, that this was not
going to last. I got nervous. I think there is
a panic setting in in the Kamala Harris campaign.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
The Kamala catastrophe is coming everybody. I'm not sure if
it'll be on debate night or just election night. But
she's an awful candidate. What we really see here, and
I understand you know, on the one hand, I want
everyone motivated, fired up, keep the faith, stay feed. I
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also don't want anyone to think, oh, well, we're taking
any igrant, and of course not. She's I mean, Trump
is up against the Democrat machine. The real question here
isn't can Trump beat Kamala Harris. It's ken Trump beat
the current incarnation of the Democrat apparatus with all of
its media assistants and and you know Phony five oh one,
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Seed three's pushing stuff and and everything that they've got, right,
I can't name it all, but the entire apparatus of
the Democrat Party is launched against Trump, including using the
DOJ and partisans and Prosecutor's office everything, right, Can Trump
beat that? Kamala Harris is effectively generic Democrat. She's a
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stand in for you could have had any number of
other Democrats. You can't actually have an exposed dementia patient. Okay,
we saw that with Biden. That was the decision they made.
If they hadn't debated, it would have been fine. I
actually just made the reservation for Clay's steak, so you know.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Sex then that really kind of a shot across the
bow buck that would send the invite right as we're
beginning the show, today. Thank you Carrie for this fabulous
steak dinner that is now set in place in Miami
on September twenty. First, I'm a man.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Who pays his debts, but I would have been enjoying
a stake on play if it were uh, you know,
on his tab, if it were not the case that
Biden had debated, if if Biden had avoided that debate.
So here's here's where I see it with Kamala Clay,
We're gonna watch them continue to play defense the Russia
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collusion thing that CNN has an I'm sorry, Russia interference right,
technically they haven't accused from funding.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But it's coming. It's coming.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The Russia wants Trump to win the election is a
desperation thing. But I can understand why they go for it,
given the fact that Kamala is a horrible candidate, that
Kamala is a uniquely awful Democrat actually.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So in a sense.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I don't even know if it's fair to say she's
generic Democrat or you know, she's sort of Democrat stand
in for whatever the party is. I think they could
have had better options. I'm not even sure. When all
said and done, people won't realize that Joe Biden wasn't
a better option. But I also see that there's the
chance that the Democrat apparatus is so strong, it's so
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powerful at this point, and that the Republicans have not
met to counter them properly, that Trump could in fact lose.
I don't believe that will happen, but I know it
is a possibility that that could happen. There's nothing about
Kamala Harris that is going to improve in the days
and weeks ahead. In fact, with familiarity comes concern from
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the Democrats, and that's what we've seen start to happen here.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Clay. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I don't think the debate is going to be a
knockout punch for either side. And that's almost always the
case with debates. You have to say almost always, because
for Biden it was right, and so it is the
case that a debate can end to presidential But you
know it's only when one side is so mendacious that
they put a dementia pation forward and say.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
No, he's fine.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But Kamala Harris is not going to be winning over voters. Uh,
They're just she's hoping that the Democrat turnout machine is
just going to be able to get the votes going.
You know, there's so much about her that you could criticize.
One of the things they're trying to do. I think
is honestly just so a lot of confusion. We end
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up chasing down what is Commonali's position on any particular issue.
Right now, It's tough to say because there's what she
has said, there's what she has stood for for four
years of Biden, and then there's her running against the
Biden Harris record in essence by saying, you know, we're
about to do all of the following. You know, when
I was watched this Morning Clay, Morning Joe O, your
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body was going on. You know what was going on
over there. I know I'm like their most dedicated viewer.
Now because they live in a parallel universe, you have
to understand the talking points of Morning Joe or else
you can't see how can anyone believe this garbage? Like,
how can anyone think that this is reality? They were
talking about the border and it's just so funny, you
know what they're going with now?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Ugh, The border has just been such a focus of Biden,
and it's just this challenge that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Came up and he's done so much work against the
issue of our lawless border. And if only Republicans had
gone along with that bill. I mean, you have to
be a moron to believe, yes, that in the final
year of his presidency he decides to put forward some
bill that has no prayer of going forward, and he
takes the border seriously. By the way, That's Kamala's whole
thing too, now, is that the Biden border bill is
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what she would have gone for, and she wanted to
fix the problem. They lit the house on fire and
then as it was going down to the embers clay,
they look at the fire department they're like, you guys,
didn't do anything here.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
This is also emblematic for what they're trying to do
with Kamala, not just on the border electric vehicle man.
Did you see their requesting, Hey, does this mean that
you're now against the bill that you co sponsored. They
can't get an answer the fracking thing. Even Dana Bash
on CNN had to follow up with and we can't
really get an answer on that. And Buck I saw
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this morning. They're trying to figure out, Hey, Kamala, you've
previously said that you believe in reparations for slavery? Do
you still believe in reparations for slavery? And they can't
get an answer from the Kamala Harris campaign on that either.
So it's not only that she's not giving answers, it's
that she's actually given answers on diametrically opposed sides of
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many of the issues that you guys care about the most.
And I'll point this out to Buck right now, Kamala
is in New Hampshire. Pay attention to the states that
she is campaigning in. They she's not trying to flip.
Other than North Carolina. There is no state that Trump
one in twenty twenty that he's having to play defense in.
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Kamala is sprinting around to seven or eight different states
that Joe Biden won in twenty twenty that she is
trying to preserve and Trump has so many different pathways
to be able to win this race. Just pay attention
to where she goes. The fact that she's in New
Hampshire today is not a good sign. If they feel
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like they need to go to New Hampshire a state crew,
correct me if I'm wrong. I believe Biden won New
Hampshire by seven points in twenty twenty. The fact that
they need to defend the ground of New Hampshire means
she's not polling very well in New Hampshire. This morning
on Morning Joe again, guys, you don't understand. It's like
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I am wandering around the enemy camp for all of
you and listening to their their colonels and their lieutenants
and you know, their diversity advisors, listening to their plans. Okay,
I'm listening to what and you know what they were doing,
Clay is they're having to get the audience ready for Oh,
this is going to be a really tight election.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
A few weeks ago, it was look at Kama's lead.
She's up so much in the swing states. Right, there
was that moment of oh, new candidate, so exciting, first
date with Kamala for America, although not really because she's
been vice president for four years.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
What's going on here? Everyone?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know, they look at the Hillary numbers going into
Labor Day. They talk about this on Morning Joe. Hillary
numbers going into labor Day, Biden numbers going into labor Day,
and current Kamala numbers going into Labor Day. And guess
what if that trend holds Donald Trump is winning this election. Yes,
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that's really you know, they had to whisper this. They
had to sort of get it early in the show
so that people don't but they have to put it
out there because they recognize there is no chance Kamala
Harris flips any red state, any meaningful in red state
and in the battlegrounds. They're just hoping she can eke
it out and really that the Democrat machine.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Can eat it out. That's the whole plan. And to
your point, the point I was just making, thanks for
the crew looking this up. In New Hampshire, Biden fifty
two point seven percent, Trump forty five point four. You
know what's fascinating about New Hampshire as well, Buck, You
can only vote in person on election day. Do you
know that that's one of the few states in America
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where there is no I believe I'm correct on this,
There is no absentee, there's no early voting. You have
to show up in person with your ID in your
hand and vote on election day in New Hampshire. So
that is one of if you're going to point to
a state and say, hey, how confident are you in
the outcome? Here? New Hampshire is one of the most
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reliable out there. Biden won by seven points in twenty twenty.
If Biden won by seven in New Hampshire and Kamala
Harris coming out of Labor Day is in New Hampshire
right now campaigning, that has to mean that her internal
polling in New Hampshire has this as a margin of
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error state, because otherwise you would be going somewhere else. Again,
pay attention to where they go. It often will tell
you what they see internally about this election.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And they see weakness for Kamala in Pennsylvania, and they
know if she doesn't win Pennsylvania, she's not winning this election.
That's totally the Democrats are aware of this. But think
about this, Buck. I mean, there are a lot of places.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Where on the East Coast early on election night you
can be paying attention to what's going on in Virginia
where Biden won by ten. You can be paying attention
to what's going on in New Hampshire where Biden won
by seven. As you start to see these early tallies
come in sixty two days from now on the East coast,
pay attention to where Kamala is going. It ain't a
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sign of strength that she's campaigning today in New Hampshire.
It means she's weak there too, because she has to
worry about putting out fires in multiple different directions and
that ain't good for her. And I think they're starting
to be pay accented, and we'll take some of your calls.
By the way, Corey Lewin, who wasn't Dawski, is going
to join us at one point thirty. He's now in
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Speaker 4 (16:13):
Welcome back to Clay and Corey Lewandowski is with us
from twenty twenty four, senior campaign official, a veteran of
the Trump Wars politically speaking, Good to have you back, Corey,
Thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well, it's a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Look, let's just get let's just give you the ball
that you're run with it. Here you have the connectivity
and the perspective to see how it's looking for Trump
in a way that everybody wants to hear. I mean,
we can just sort of start by honing in on
some of the battleground states. How's the campaign, how's the
ground game, how are we looking?
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Let me give your listeners some historical perspective of this,
and I'll just go back four years of where the
campaign was on this day in twenty twenty on the
Real Clear Politics average. In twenty twenty, we were down
seven points of Joe Biden. Today Rasmusen has us up
four points. But let's go to the big states, the
states that are going to matter where this election is
going to be decided, first and foremost in Arizona on
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this day. Four years ago, we would down five points
to Joe Biden. Today, according to Real Clear Politics, we're
up five point five for a net swing of ten
and a half points. When you look at where we
are in the battleground state of Michigan four years ago,
down three point three to Biden, today we're up two
point two for a net swing of five point five.
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And then let me just go down to Pennsylvania. We
were down three to six, we're now are up three
to one for a net swing of six point seven.
And lastly, Wisconsin, Wisconsin today, four years ago we were
down four point four points. Today we're up three point
zero and the Real Claire average for a net of
seven point four point swing. All of that is to
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say we are in the strongest position Donald Trump has
ever been in his life to seek this reelection and
have victory in November. Absolutely no question.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Corey Kamala Harris's campaigning in New Hampshire today, I told
our audience we started the show, look at where Kamala
is going. It will tell you how she sees the race.
Is it to you a sign of nervousness that Kamala
is in New Hampshire and in Virginia, two states that
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Biden won comfortably in twenty twenty one, New Hampshire by
seventy one, Virginia by ten. Doesn't that kind of indicate
to all of us what her internal polling is showing.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
Oh, it absolutely does. Look, you know, we've got public
polling that shows that the state of Virginia is a
three point race. Right now. We've got public polling that
shows that New Hampshire is dead. Even she is afraid
because if she loses the four electoral votes in New
Hampshire and the electoral votes in Virginia, she has no path.
Where is Donald Trump recently and where is he today? Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona,
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North Carolina, Rinse and repeat why, because that's where this
race is going to be won and lost. When you
look at the battleground states and my home state of
New Hampshire, we're going to continue to have people on
the ground there a strong presence. I will always advocate
for the President to go up and see those people.
But Kamalawa Harris, her first campaign stops of this election
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cycle are in a state like New Hampshire. It tells
you everything you need to know that she is so
concerned that she's going to lose that state that she's
putting her first campaign stops there. And look, I think
it's very possible she does lose. Donald Trump lost the
state of New Hampshire in twenty sixteen by about two
seven hundred votes. And now the people know what's at stake,
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and they know that his record will bring them economic prosperity,
shafety and security, and an opportunity for everybody in that
granted state to have a better future.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Speaking of Corey Lewandowski, senior campaign advisor for Trump twenty
twenty four or quarry to that end, on the economic
side of things, what is the primary messaging that the
campaign has running in these particularly in the swing states,
on what the Trump economy would do? And also, how
is the Trump campaign defining the Kamal economy? Because I
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don't think that the Kamala campaign knows really, But so
how's that going?
Speaker 5 (20:25):
Well, it's very simple, right, Donald Trump has a record
while he was in office of passing the largest tax
cut in American history. And what's amazing, and your listener
should be aware of this is Donald Trump and Kamala
Harris have actually never met and the reason for that
is because she was so ineffective as a US senator
that she wasn't part of any of these bipartisan negotiations
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to help provide economic release to the American people. So
where are we right now? We know that the you
know what they used to call bidnomics, she's walking away from.
She's no longer supporting that because of the devas has
entailed and told on the American families. It doesn't matter
if you are rich or poor, black or white, green
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or blue, it doesn't matter. You are feeling the crunch
of the Biden Harris Walls administration, which is more money
to put food on your plate, is more money to
put gas in your car. It is more money to
make sure your kids have the school supplies that they
need to go.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Back to school.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
And people are tired of it because it's unsustainable.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Corey, when you look at the larger landscape of this race,
it seems to me the easiest path for Trump winning
is North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania. Now there's a lot of
other states. We just mentioned New Hampshire, Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona.
There's a lot of states in play out there. But
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when you look at the map, is that the pathway
of Hey, we win North Carolina, we win Georgia, we
win Pennsylvania, those three states, and it's done. Is that
part of the way you're thinking, how would you assess
the map here as we sit sixty two days out.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Well, look, I think North Carolina's a state that's been
very good to us of the last two cycles. Georgia,
you know, is a state that we have clearly an
opportunity to be successful there. Historically speaking, there's a number
of Republicans who've been elected down there and has been
a state that's.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
Been good to us.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
That being said, Pennsylvania is always the Great White whale,
and until Donald Trump won it in twenty sixteen, Republicans
always thought they could win it, but they could never
pull it off. But his message is particularly when you
juxtapose that to Kamala's message of fracking, is what Donald
Trump supports, she opposes it. You know, we have seen
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what outsourcing jobs has done to the state of Pennsylvania.
We've seen what the outsourcing of manufacturing has done. So
Pennsylvania is a battleground state for sure, but look what
we've been able to do in Michigan. Look what the
auto workers have come around to Donald Trump because Joe
Biden is willing to put those autofactories down in Mexico.
Look at the state of Whisksisconsin, and I just want
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to go back to those numbers. Four years ago today
we were down full point four points in Wisconsin. Today
we're up three. If anybody thinks that Tim Wallas has
been in addition to this campaign for Kamala Harris, they
are sorely mistaken. He is the most, if not the
most very close to the most radical governor in America,
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and his Midwest values have not given them any bump
in those battleground states of Michigan, Wisconsin or Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Corey, we know you talked to Trump on a regular
daily basis. The debate coming up, there's one debate that
Kamala has agreed to so far right's still just one.
I think that she said, okay, yeah, I'll show up
for that one. What should we expect from the big guy?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Look, I think Donald Trump has been preparing for debates
his entire life. We know that, and I've heard it
hundreds of times. If Donald Trump would just do this,
he will win or if he'll just stop talking. You know,
he has a record of winning presidential debates, whether it
was in the primary process all the way back in
fifteen and sixteen, which I know many of you remember,
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or it was when he debated Hillary Clinton and he
said you'd be in jail. It was that one liner,
the off the cuff, you know, extemporaneous statement that he
made that everybody started laughing. Or at the last debate, well,
Joe Biden is drooling on himself and Donald Trump turned
and said, I don't know what that guy just said,
and either does he. I mean, you know, it's so
funny because this guy has such a quick wit that
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I would anticipate a line like that is going to
happen in this debate. And it's going to show the
humanization of Donald Trump, because I believe Kamala Harris is
just going to try and be a robot.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
She's going to tell us how.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
She prosecutes criminals like Donald Trump, and how she has
made her way and broken through.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
The glass ceiling and all those things.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
The reality is she doesn't know what she's for and
what she's against. And this is going to be the
first time truly that the American people will have a
chance to see and hear from her because most of
the media has given her a free pass for the
last forty five days.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Corey, do you think the Kamala camp is starting to
panic a little bit? It feels like they got the
sugar high in August, then they didn't get as much
as they thought coming out of the DNC, and the
numbers have continued to tick back. Have you seen that
in the internal polling with the Trump team and does
that kind of characterize why we've seen it feels sort
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of like a frenetic Kamala Harris campaign of late, where
they're just desperately trying to erase the things that she
said she's four in the past and now claim she's
against them.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Yeah, her staff is out actively telling all the members
of the media what Kamala now stands for. We haven't
heard it from her, we haven't heard it from the candidate,
but our staff is doing it on Friday nights and
you know, privately with members of the media because they're
afraid because coming off of the Democrat Convention, she should
have gotten a five to seven point bump, but she
did not. And the reason she didn't get that bump.
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Partially is because we received and secured the RFK endorsement
the following day. And I don't want to overlook that,
but that RFK endorsement in Glendale, Arizona might have been
the largest crowd and rally and applause I have ever
heard for anybody on the debate on a stage other
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than Donald John Trump. The crowd was in love with
this guy. And what we're seeing and what the polling
data is indicating is those women who are twenty five
to forty years old who have multiple children or children
are coming to the Trump campaign in record numbers because
they're concerned about what Kamala and Joe did to their
kids forcing them with the vaccines and the RFK Junior
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endorsement and the Tulsa Gabbard endorsement are paying significant dividends
of the campaign in both the short term and then
will continue to do so in the long term.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
We got one more question for you from one of
our VIPs. VIP Joe asks Cory.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Where are all the commercials? Please tell me the battleground
states are going to get flooded with commercials. I haven't
heard or seen one single Trump commercial. What can you
tell me about how he's in by the way in Mississippi.
So I think some people out there in red states
or seeing I ain't seeing much.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Corey. My bet is going to be you're feeling pretty
good about a lot of states.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Look, if we got trouble in Mississippi, fellaws, we're in
big trouble, right, I think we're gonna be okay down
and those are our people. But that said, don't forget.
We are just under nine weeks away from election day,
although early voting in balloty going out as early as
Saturday in the states, so we are running TV commercials.
But I want people to remember this, fifty percent of
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the electorate no longer receives their communication from television, from
mainstream media. They're getting it through social media platforms, They're
getting it from their phone. So our ability to communicate
with those people continue to evolves as the delivery platforms
continue to evolve. And that's what we're trying to do
is make sure that the right people are getting the
right messages at the right time.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Corey Buck and I have both said that we're going
to vote early. We're going to get our ballot in
for people out there that are listening right now, would
you encourage them to go vote early? If so, why,
what is the impact?
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Well, let me tell you something. I am a big
believer and now I live in a state of New
Hampshire that we don't have really voting. We don't have
ABS ANDEE voting. You have to vote on election day
shy of you know, a major health crisis. But in
places that allow people to vote early, absolutely take that opportunity.
You know, Republicans always win on election day because our
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people tend to wait. But the Democrats have mastered disability
to go to people and get them to vote early
and put that money in the bank for later. To
put that vote in the bank for later. I think
what we're going to see It may just be one debate,
It may be and maybe two or three.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
We don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Kamala's team won't commit to that. But if you get
your ballot, don't wait in the hold it for sixty days.
If you already know that you're voting for Donald Trump,
put your put your name on that envelope, fill it out,
vote for Donald Trump, and get it back in. Because
that's how we're going to be successful, is making sure
that every person who has the opportunity to vote early
(29:12):
is doing that. And if we can maintain parody with
the Democrats and their early vote in the adjecity voting,
we know that we'll win on election day and we
have to have a system and an election outcome that's
too big to rig.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Corey, keep up the good work. Tell President Trump to
have fun tonight in Harrisburg with Sean Hannity. We know
he will in six days from now. We can't wait
to watch that first debate.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Thank you, guys.
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Speaker 1 (30:52):
My thanks to Freedom one oh four point seven, DC's
Real News Real Talk for hosting me in the studio
here as I spoke on GW's campus this morning. Headed
to LA a little bit later. We'll do some fun
things in LA later in the day. But we are
joined now by Bernie Marino, who is probably fired up
(31:15):
about the Ohio State buck Eyes, and certainly I bet
is fired up about the Cleveland Browns and the Cincinnati Bengals,
both returning to the grid. Iron this week as the
NFL is returning to action. But Bernie, I want to
like lead in with this aspect of things. Everyone in
Ohio who is listening to me right now, and at
some point this season, we have been number one in Columbus,
(31:38):
We have been number one in Cincinnati, and we have
been number one in Cleveland. So every major media market
in Ohio. You guys love this show. We love you.
And in Ohio you don't just have the opportunity to
cheer for the buck Eyes, the Browns and the Bengals.
You have the opportunity to deliver the United States Senate
to the Republican Party by voting for the main who
(32:00):
is on with us right now, Bernie Marino. It's a
big election in Ohio, but it's also a big election
in the nation. Ohio has the opportunity to flip the
Senate to control of Republican Party hands and Bernie, I
bet you're seeing some good numbers out there, as we
said sixty two days from election day.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Yeah, absolutely. First of all, thank you for having me
again on the show. I love being on And let
me just reinforce that on November fifth, our polls close
at seven thirty PM. And I'm hoping within an hour
of that period of time, you'll see Brett Bahar because
nobody's gonna be watching CNN, We'll be watching pot Ude
comes up and says, we can now say that the
(32:39):
Republicans controlled the United States Senate because Bernie Marino defeated
career politician Shared Brown. So the entire world will breathe
a little collective sigh of relief knowing that we at
least got the Senate in our hands.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Hey, Bernie, Block, appreciate you being with us. Just let
everybody know.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I mean, I'll set the stage here for one second.
When we were out of Wisconsin for the RNC and
talking to some Wisconsin Republicans, and they also brought Michigan
into the conversation talks to the Michigan Republicans that they
said that the way that Democrats win in those states
is essentially pretending they're not Democrats when they're talking to
(33:21):
Wisconsinites or Michiganders and then going along with whatever Chuck
Schumer or Nancy Pelosi, etc.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Wants.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Right, what is the dynastic Is it a similar dynamic
in Ohio with.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
Brown?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I mean, how is it? Because Ohio is pretty solid
red right.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Why is it competitive there, Well, I'll simplify it from that.
They're bull face flyers. So share Brown was just lie
and lie and lie at TV commercials. The media, of
course goes along with it. And if he gets re
elected and then he goes to Washington, DC for five years,
acts like crazy Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren combined and
(34:03):
votes in the most radical left wing way, and it
comes back to Ohio, says, remember me on the moderate,
on the bipartisan guy, I want to secure borner, I
want energy independent. You know, these guys cannot run on
the policies that they actually vote for because they would
lose seventy thirty. So they have to spend a year,
(34:24):
with the media's help, lying to the people of Ohio.
We're not going to let them get away with it
this cycle. We're going to make certain that we expose
him for the radical leftist that he is. By the way,
there's a guy who went to college when Richard Dixon
was in the White House, by the way, and majored
in Russia study, so he knows a thing or two
about socialists.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
In lying Bertie, if you look at the state of Ohio,
we know the statewide you want as many people voting
as possible. But is there a particular area of Ohio that,
to you in this Senate race is the swing area.
If you win that area, you know that you will
be the next Senator from Ohio. Where in particular is
(35:05):
the area that decides this race.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Probably Northeast Ohio, because Cuyahoga County is the biggest county
in Ohio in terms of population. There's a lot of
Republican voters up here, but a lot more Democrats. So
in the previous cycle in twenty eighteen, Sharon Brown was
able to win that county by fifty points. We won't
let him get anywhere near that number. I employed thousands
(35:31):
of people here. My companies were rated the best place
to work in Northeast Ohio. I had twelve dealerships up here,
my tech companies here. This is where I live. Most
people don't see Sharon Brown as a guy who's more
of a creature of DC, except of course, again during
election cycle. So I think we'll be very competitive in Cuyahoga,
in the Mahoning Valley, places like Youngstown, where you've seen thousands,
(35:56):
tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs leave the area under
his watch. We saw a plant there in Lordstown that
got closed under share Brown's watch. We've seen our steel
industry decline under share Brown's watch. There's second tired of
the empty promises of these career politicians that know what
to say to get elected but then do totally different
things when they're where they're an office. So that Northeast
(36:18):
Ohio quarridor is really important?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
How do you think? I mean, I think one.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
One aspect of your race that is going to get
a lot of attention or is getting a lot of attention,
is not only possible Senate control, but also Ohio with
jd Vance as the VP on the ticket, and then
Tim Walls Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
The middle of the.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Country battle, like the battle for those middle of the road,
middle of the country voters that will play out in Ohio, Pennsylvania,
really Western Pennsylvania mostly, and then Michigan Wisconsin. I mean,
what are the core issues and what do you think
the deciding factor will be that swath of the electorate
that is likely to determine your race as well as
(37:05):
the presidential election.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Well, let me just say Tim Walls is not somebody
who represents Midwest values at all, So let's take him
out of the equation. But the reason these states matter
so much is because this is the core issue of
this race. Look in nineteen forty nine, six of the
wealthiest fourteen cities in the United States of America were
in Ohio. The wealthiest city in the country was Detroit, Michigan. Why,
(37:29):
because we've made things here in America. You could go
to high school, go to work right away, and live
a good upper middle class or middle class life where
you can afford a home, afford a car, race kids
in this good community with good schools and elected leaders.
Let's just face it, from both parties for twenty or
thirty or forty years, destroyed that version of the American
(37:51):
Green shipped our jobs in China and Mexico. And we're
going to get that back. We're going to get energy
dominance back here. We're going to make things that we
can make here in America. We're going to support this
idea of a strong, vibrant middle class. This is what
our party is now fully centered on doing. Give huge
credit to President Trump for re orienting the party in
that way.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yesterday I was in West Virginia. West Virginia is going
to vote to put a Republican in the Senate. Joe
Manchin is on his way out. We know that in Ohio,
which is going to be a red state, President Trump
is going to win it. In Montana, which is going
to be a red state, President Trump is going to
win it. Two potential seats to flip. They are spending
money like crazy against you. But I saw Guy Benson
(38:35):
put up a poll internally that shows you leading right
now in Ohio. Are you comfortable with how this race
is going right now? Do you have enough money? What
would you tell our audience out there again? Number one
in Columbus, number one in Cincinnati, number one in Cleveland,
have the ability to deliver this state for you that
you need from them down the stretch run here.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
You can't vote for President Trump is shared Brown. If
you give President Trump, sure Brown, what's he going to do?
He's probably gonna make it to that. Chuck Schumer is
a majority leader. It means they're going to impeach him again.
They'll block every one of his agenda items. They'll not
allow him to put the proper people in the cabinet. So,
if you're out there and you're gonna support President Trump.
(39:17):
You like President Trump's policies, you've got to vote for
Bernie Marino for the United States Tennis. That's notssard number
one turns of message number two. We feel really good
about where we stand in the polls. That one percent
plus that you talked about was before our advertising campaign.
And let me just say it this way. We opened
a can of whoopass on him on TV about a
(39:38):
week and a half ago. So we're going to actually
have more messaging on TV than Sure Brown will have.
We're not unlike him. We're not going to make it
about personal tax and personal insults. That's all he's got
on me. We're going to make it about his voting record,
his track record, and the fact that he's over stated
is welcome. Fifty years as an elected official never having
(39:59):
had a job private sector is way too long. We're
going to get rid of them. We're going to retire them.
We're going to win. But everybody out there know this.
You can vote on October eighth. Please go vote early.
It allows us to know who's voted who's not. It
saves us a ton of money. And by the way,
if you never want to get another text message or
email from me, then go vote early, will stop communicating
(40:22):
with you, I promise.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
One area where there's clearly going to be some real
political impact in this cycle is on the illegal immigration crisis.
It is hilarious, Bernie. I'm sure you've seen this. I
know you're very busy, but if we turn on some
of the national Democrat media, they're like, oh my gosh,
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are just shocked at all
the illegals that have come in in recent years, and
they're working so hard.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
To stop it. Where's your opponent, GHIROD Brown on this?
Speaker 6 (40:52):
Well, first of all, you know, I'm a legal immigrant
to this country. I find it disgusting that this country
keeps rewarding people who skip the line, break our rules,
refuse to learn the language, don't assimilate, and are here
to have handouts. It's totally against what immigration is supposed
to be in this country. Whereas shere Brown, sure, Brown
is voted against every single border measure that President Trump
(41:14):
put forward. He said the wall was stupid, the wall
was racist. He said that there is no problem at
the border. That is a made up right wing conspiracy theory.
How many times have we heard those words now? Of course,
he hides behind this supposed bipartisan bill which would have
allowed five thousand illegal crossings a day, so almost a
million and a half people to break our laws and
(41:36):
break into our home, which is exactly one point five
million too many. We should have a zero tolerance policy
for illegal immigration. And by the way, shere Brown and
Kamala Harris believe that the people who did break into
our country that are here I legally should be allowed
to be United States citizens. I think we've got to
deport them if they're in this country illegally, because again
(41:57):
that's common sense. If I broke into your home, you
wouldn't allow me to stay, and you certainly wouldn't let
me take better care of me than the people who
live in your home. So this is common sense. The
Democrats like to make this about being a xenophobic and racist.
I can tell you, as a legal immigrant, to every
American citizen living uh listening to this who was born here,
(42:19):
stop rewarding people who break our immigration laws to come here.
It's infuriating for us that had to follow the process
to watch America do that. It's going to stop next year.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
How are you looking with the Latino community in your
home state, Bernie? And also, how do you think Trump's
going to do nationally with the Latino vote?
Speaker 6 (42:39):
You're crook, Mubian and in Ohio. All in Ohio? Uh
in what please funds?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Sounds good to me?
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
That's great, Bertie, Bernie.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
We're gonna win the Hispanic vote. We're gonna win the
Hispanic vote because look, if Panics care about family, they
care about community. We've seen what happened in Venezuela. And
let me just tell you something again. For Americans that
inherited this country through birth, whether it's your grandfather, grandfather,
great grandfather, or whatever, do not allow these leftist lunatics
to turn this country into Venezuela. Please, I'm pleading with you.
(43:16):
My family came here for the America that we understand
to be the country. This country can easily turn into Venezuela.
This election, you put Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz with
a Democrat majority in the Senate House. One generation, this
country becomes Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Bernie. A couple of things here, I think that you
just hammered home that are significant. I want you to
hammer them home again. One, the importance of going out
and voting early. We are telling everybody in this audience
get your vote in Buck and I are both going
to gote vote early, but I want you to lay
out specifically how that can help in Ohio. Second thing,
(43:53):
you said, you cannot have split voters. People can't vote Trump,
which they're gonna do by ten and also vote for
Sharad Brown. Brown called Trump a racist. He said Trump's
a racist. Now he's trying to to say, oh, I'll
work with Trump. If you are voting Trump, you have
to vote Marino, and you need to go vote early.
(44:15):
But explain again in detail why that can help you
so much at being able to win and flip control
of the Senate.
Speaker 6 (44:23):
Absolutely. So, if we think about the last four weeks
of the selection like a football game, it's four quarters,
it's four weeks of early voting. So we don't know
how people voted, but we know that they're Republican inclined
to vote. So if we see that people are voting early,
we don't have to chase you. We don't have to
send you emails or text messages, we don't have to
(44:43):
go knock on your door. We know that one county
is doing well, but another county is not. So we
can put resources and we can end each quarter say okay,
for the first week of early voting, what's the score,
and the second week, the third week, in the final week,
if we don't have people Republicans go out there and
vote early in mass then we have to communicate with
(45:05):
the entire population of voters consistently for four weeks. And
it's very, very expensive. So it allows us to shift
our resources. Look, you imagine playing a football game and
you couldn't watch the score until the game was over,
and that's insane. So we have to make certain that
people go out there and vote early. It's very easy
to do it in Ohio. And on top of that,
(45:25):
you never know what's going to happen to November fifth.
By the way, we could have a snowstorm, we canna
have a blizzard, we gonna have a power outage. We
don't know. Bank that vote, get it done. This is
the easiest election to do that because it's not confusing.
You are not confused out there if you're thinking that
you're going to vote for President Trump Orkamala Harris, because
that's not a hard decision and like you just said earlier. Look,
Sharon Brown, we don't have to wonder what he will do.
(45:47):
We just look at what he did when he was
in office as a senator from Ohio President Trump was
in the White House. He fought President Trump at every
step of the way and every make vote that mattered.
Let's not let him do that again.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Amen. Bernie Marino, next senator from the state of Ohio.
He's gonna flip control to the Republican Party. Bernie, we
appreciate the time. Keep the sprint going.
Speaker 6 (46:09):
The man, you got it. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Look, running for Senate takes a lot of energy. Bernie's
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I was out last night, tim cast till one point
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an interview on George Washington's campus, doing this show, did
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Speaker 2 (48:23):
Welcome back in closing up shop here on Clay and
Buck for the day. But I wanted to give you
a little heads up about where we're going to be
going tomorrow. First up, we're going to be joined by
my friend Jeff Tigus. He's a former Delta squadron commander.
I mean, the guy's an all around badass and he
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just concluded a tour in Gaza into Isra rather with
IDF to survey the Philadelphi Corridor. I believe you actually
went in to Gaza, is what it says here. Schedule
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I'm gonna be over there in December, which I can't wait.
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over there in August, but the flights all got canceled.
Let's close out with something funny. By the way, Buck,
this is a VIP email. I know people like to
go off with a little bit of a laugh. This
is a great email from Brian. I would like to
propose an idea. Brian says, no more steak bets. Instead,
(50:42):
let's do a bet where if Buck loses, he has
to do an entire hour of the show in full
Brian Stelter character, no breaking character. If I could shirtless
shirtless the whole time, Brian Stelter I'll wear a cap
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Speaker 1 (51:02):
I would laugh so hard, crying tears of unmitigated glee
that I could and would have to call out sick
to work for. By far my favorite voice, Buck does
love the show. Thanks, Guys, Like I don't dislike you
want to do drink bets now because I'm you're gonna
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my sto, I can't do voices, so I don't know
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what the counter would be, but you having to do
a full hour of the show, as I don't think
I could keep it straight face.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
I think we'd have to create a character for you, since,
like I know, you put up a video lifting weights,
we might have to create Clay bro where during the
show you're like doing those weights but like the little
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know what I mean, and you do it on the
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Ones with like Clomo when he was like claiming that
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But I did that