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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back in final hour of the week Clay Travis
Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with
us as we are rolling through the weekend, getting you
ready for the week end. Some good news. I know
we referenced this a little bit earlier in the show, Buck,
but I want to just kind of hammer this. Axios

(00:23):
comes out with a list of nine different subjects that
Kamala Harris has changed her story on, and the Kamala
Harris campaign doesn't have good answers. We played Dana Bash
on Fox News going after the Kamala Harris campaign a bit.
We got a couple more clips that I want to
play here to start off the third hour. But last

(00:47):
week Nate Silver came on, and Nate Silver is a
politics basically guru when it comes to analyzing probabilities, and
when he came on, Kamala was still a small favorite
in his forecast, which takes into account all these different

(01:07):
polls everywhere. But I actually think this is an interesting
dynamic of what's happened in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Buck.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Kamala Harris on August twenty third opened up a seven
point lead probability wise in Nate Silver's forecast that wasn't
very long ago August twenty third. We're now sitting here
on September sixth, and Nate Silver now has Trump with
a sixty one and a half percent chance to win
the election, Kamala Harris with a thirty eight percent chance,

(01:38):
and he has Trump as favorites in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona,
North Carolina, Georgia, and Nevada. That is every single swing
state that is being contested to a large degree by
both parties, including huge favorites in North Carolina, Georgia, and Arizona. Now,

(02:00):
all of you still need to go out and vote,
but I give you credit, buck because even in the
midst of the sugar high, you were saying, hey, it's
a sugar high, and we still have sixty days to go.
But next week many of you are going to start
to be able to vote. So whatever the political process is,
we have a rolling election now, we don't have just

(02:23):
election Day, and so whatever happens in September or October,
a lot of you are going to already have your
votes banked.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
In addition to that forecast and the betting markets now
having Trump favored in substantially in North Carolina, in Georgia,
in Arizona, and opening up a big lead in Pennsylvania
in the betting markets, I all said, and Nevada. I
also am getting closer in Michigan and Wisconsin. Again, this

(02:56):
is where you can go and bet on who you
think is going to win the state.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
There have been.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Three good legal rulings for Trump that have basically happened
while we've been on the air so far today. First
of all, you have the sentencing for those of you
who have not heard yet, the sentencing in the Trump
hush money the document's case, the thirty four felonies has

(03:21):
now been pushed from September eighteenth to November twenty sixth,
so that is now going to happen several weeks after
the election. And RFK Junior, who has dropped out of
the race and endorsed Trump, was on in three battleground states, Michigan,
North Carolina, and Wisconsin. Today, courts in both Michigan and

(03:43):
North Carolina have ordered RFK Junior's name to be removed
from the ballot. All three of those are big legal
victories for Trump. As we get ready for what is
probably going to be the biggest event of the first
half of September for Shore, which is the debate between
Tamala Harris and Trump on September tenth, and so Buck,

(04:04):
as we roll into the weekend, there is a lot
of really good momentum for Trump being stacked up, not
to mention that he had a press conference today, that
he got the endorsement of the Fraternal Order of Police,
that he is continuing to be out on the campaign
trail doing events everywhere, and Kamala Harris is basically in

(04:25):
hiding as she prepares for this September tenth debate that
all of us are going to be watching. So I
am very optimistic as we get ready for the official
sprint run of the presidential election next week when many
of you start being able to vote. I also want

(04:46):
to play for you a couple of clips that I
referenced in the last hour. One is this is Mark
Cuban getting bodied by the CNBC hosts when he's questioned
about Kamala Harris's economic policies. Called into CNBC, this is
a very finance oriented audience, as you can well imagine
listen to this cut.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Let me just say I appreciate your calling in telling
us what you're hearing on these fronts. That's great, But
as you've said yourself, you can't speak for the vice president.
These are things they're telling you. Who knows what they're
telling other people. My guess is they're telling anybody who's
donating to them exactly what they want to hear at
this point, what they say publicly, what they stick to.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, absolutely, positively not right.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Let me just like, why do you think that they're
telling you the truth and not telling other people other things? Well,
if they won't say it publicly, say it publicly, tell
all of us so that we can hold you to it.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I get it, But you've got to get the details right.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
You can't, shan, but.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
We have sixty days to an election, Like you're asking
people to get the.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Day before the election right, even if it's the day.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Before, Okay, bodied by CNBC Mark Cuban, I just I mean,
that's really good questioning. I wish we had more media
who were pushing back like that. I think that was
Julia Borstein on CNBC just letting Mark Cuban have it
for essentially doing what I think is she's accurate about
telling people what they're telling Cuban because they want to

(06:08):
hear it when she won't even come out and tell
us what her.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Actual policies are. She's allowing other people to run for
president on her behalf. Is really what's going on. This
is a collectivist effort, you could say, to win the presidency,
and it's an embarrassment. It's really an embarrassment for the country.
You know, I understand that for Democrats like Donald Trump,

(06:32):
it's the worst thing ever. Well, he was president and
it actually went very well as far as the things
that you can gauge a presidency by. We did have
the lunacy of the COVID and all that, but you know,
that was like an asteroid hitting the earth in some ways.
Just sometimes stuff happens. But Trump did a very good job.
He's not Hitler all these things they say, He's not

(06:53):
the end of democracy. It's stupid when they say these things.
Kamala Harris winning the presidency to me means we're not
a serious country, and I'd have to really do a
rethink about what the future looks like for this nation
because it's so obvious that she is a phony and
there's no authenticity and there's no leadership and there's no vision.

(07:14):
She is effectively an appendage of the Democrat machinery. She
is just there to be the figurehead. They did pull
this off with Biden, But to your point, Clay, from
earlier in the show, Biden's brand was more conducive and
built over forty years of bs that he was a
guy who you know, was just like assault of the Earth.

(07:36):
You can trust to me. Know, its a hard day's work.
I mean, all this sloganeering nonsense, right, and some one
of the funniest things I actually have here. I have
a book that I was using for research for my book,
actually Iconography of Power Soviet political posters under Lenin and Stalin.

(07:57):
And what's so funny is you have all these I
mean it's funny, but it goes through it has all
these posters in it. It's a really interesting book. And
they they have these people who are you know, now
sort of despots, but the Central Committee, the high level
Soviet these are all intellectuals effectively, right, or at least
fancy themselves as intellectuals. But all the iconography and all

(08:20):
the is about the is about the hammer and sickle
and the peasant farmer. These people who don't know anything
about peasant farmers. None of them were peasant farmers. The
whole thing was a fraud. The whole thing was a
put on, right, and then it transitioned when they went
through the industrialization under Stalin into oh, the steel worker,

(08:41):
like the worker at the mill. It's just like with Biden.
Joe Biden has no idea what it is to be
a plumber or an electrician or a contractor or. But
you know he's always rolled up shirt. Hey, I'm blue
collar Joe, right. That worked. Kamala Harris's thing is I'm
the diversity educator at your third tier public unity. I

(09:01):
don't think that's going to play that well with the
voters who were still up for winning over no doubt.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
And that's starting to resonate in Michigan, in Pennsylvania and
in Wisconsin, the so called blue wall, which is praying
in a massive way. And I wanted to play this
for you. You mentioned someone who is not connected at
all with the general public, maybe a Hollywood megastar like
George Clooney who's doing a film debut in Venice. I

(09:28):
do want to play this audio because I just thought
it was the height of BS George Clooney, working with
Barack Obama, writes an editorial in the New York Times
demanding that Joe Biden stepped down. And remember he actually
called for a mini primary because I think the real
story that's going to come out soon is nobody actually
wanted Kamala to be the nominee because they were aware

(09:51):
that she would end up losing. I can't wait to
read the book after the election is done. But listen
to George Clooney when he's asked about the impact of
that editorial and Joe Biden's stepping down, and also listen
to the media cheering in Europe. This is Venice at
the film festival this week.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
The person who should be applauded is the president who
did the most selfless thing that anybody's done since George Washington.
And that's true, and so anybody. All the machinations that
got us there, none of that's going to be remembered,
and it shouldn't be. What should be remembered is the
selfless act of someone who you know, it's very hard

(10:33):
to let go of power.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Joe Biden gets knifed in the back. What really we
should remember is not the knifing in the back, and
the fact that we forced him not to be president
of the United States anymore. It's how selfless his relinquishment
of power is, even for George Clooney and even by
the standards of Hollywood hypocrisy, that is an incredible sound bite.

(10:56):
And Notebuck, those people clapping were not what random people
that happened to be in the vicinity of George Clooney.
That was all the media there to cover him celebrating
his destruction of Joe Biden's political career. I just that
clip is pretty remarkable that he would argue, we told

(11:17):
you on this show that would happen. That they would say,
as soon as Joe Biden stepped down, Hey, he is
the modern day George Washington. That was inevitable. But to
be able to say that with a straight face after
what George Clooney, in conjunction with Barack Obama did to
Joe Biden's political future and career. Remember Buck, the New
York Times wrote multiple editorials demanding that Joe Biden stepped down.

(11:41):
But somehow the party is so controlled by left wing
Hollywood elite that it took George Clooney writing and editorial
for the pressure to really go to a different level.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And I also think the Obamas and a few others
were the end of it for Joe. And I still
believe very strongly that our initial analysis of how could
they push him out just about inducements for the Biden
family really just allowing the grift to continue long after
Joe is out of office, and that was enough eventually

(12:14):
for them. You know, you're gonna see they will be
treated the Bidens will be treated well going forward because
of a decision that Joe made. I bring that up
just because it's the exact opposite of what George Clooney
is saying, which is like, oh, Biden, dide the least
selfish thing ever this it's the least selfish thing. The
way if someone holds a gun to my head and

(12:34):
says give me your wallet, and I give them my wallet,
that's not a selfless act. That's a I don't want
what's coming unless I do what you tell me act. Yeah,
And they told Biden, you step down or we will
punish your family. Going forward, they will not be welcome
in the corridors of power, and they won't be getting,

(12:55):
you know, the money from the Netflix consulting gigs on
the speaking and the book deal and the chancellorships and
all these other things that the Left will throw at you.
So it's just funny. It's it's like I say, anti truth.
Biden was pure selfishness in stepping down. Actually, do you.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Think doctor Jill Biden wants Kamala It to lose?

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yes? I do, absolutely, absolutely not gonna say it publicly.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think Joe might recognize his legacy as somewhat tied
to Kamala. I think doctor Jill hates Kamala and actually
secretly wants her to lose.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
If I were doctor Jill, and I know that would
require many years of study to get my important doctorate,
which is not even really a doctorate, but put that aside,
I would actually want Kamala to lose as well. You know,
I'm I'm loyalty to your family is a central character
trait as far as I am concerned. And they did
Biden dirty. Yeah, they did him dirty, and I totally

(13:54):
I would not you know, So oh yeah, I think
I think that's right. We'll take some call. Also, we've
got a friend Michael Barry Zarov talk joining here dive
into this with him in just a few minutes. But
switching gears here for something really important, the International Fellowships
with Christians and Jews and the work that they're doing, because,

(14:15):
as you know, Israelis are waking up every day now
with more and more threats growing all around them because
of this ongoing war with Hamas. They've got Hesbala on
their perimeter, they've got the Iranian terrorist entity just not
that far away, and there's so much going on that
requires the allies of Israel to step in now and

(14:38):
do what is necessary to support them. And that's where
the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews comes in. The IFCJ.
They've been helping Israeli citizens for as long as for
more than forty years, rather with things like food and
medicine and water for bomb shelters, because within hours of
attacks by Hamas soldiers, for example, or rather within hours

(15:00):
of attacks of terrorists, people like the IFCJ rally and
they do everything they can on the front lines support
Israel through the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Go
to SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That support IFCJ dot org.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
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Speaker 2 (15:34):
This election cycle it is. I can't believe we got
early voting just a matter of days really away. At
this point, we're going to be here in the middle
of September. We've got more and more data to look at,
including as Clay mentioned this, what's his name, Nate Silver

(15:56):
prediction who you'll be happy to see. Well, well, you
know what, I don't want to get ahead of myself.
We will tell you about what Nate's saying, mister Nate.
And then we also have the debate just on Tuesday,
now days away. And over at Fox News, you had

(16:17):
one of the hosts taking a spokesperson for the Kamala
campaign somewhat to task. Here on, hold on a second,
you're going to stake it all on one debate? Think
about this. Why would you put it all on one
debate unless you're wait, what doll we hit you with?

(16:39):
We'll get to this in a sec.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Buck reports just breaking literally right now that they have
delayed the Trump hush money New York City sentencing trial
until after the election.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Ah, there we go.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
And so I'm seeing that on multiple accounts. I haven't
seen a full art yet about this, but this is
breaking news. Right now, we're gonna get Dana Perino. That
clip that you're referencing is pretty fantastic. But this was
scheduled for September eighteenth. We just talked about it yesterday.

(17:15):
Uh and again breaking news, just coming down. We'll get
more details for you. But this would mean all of
the lawfare has blown up in the Democrat Party's face
on a level that I think it was hard to
even predict. What happened dismissed in South Florida, probably never

(17:38):
gonna happen in DC. Fanny Willis and her boyfriend Nathan
Wade still hanging out down in Atlanta. That case is
on basically like Kick to the Curb. But the New
York City case, the trumped up felonies based on bookkeeping,
is now falling apart as well. And to E Bucket,

(18:00):
what I take as a notice on this, and again
this is just breaking news, is that the polling must
be disastrous on any law fair related to Trump, and
the Kamala team has let it be known that they
basically want all pencils down on this because it's a
mess for them.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I think that if they sentenced Trump to prison now,
that doesn't mean he would start serving, right. We've discussed this.
If merchand Though had said you get a year in
Rikers Island, which you know could have been something along
the lines of what he faced. I don't know whatever
it would be for thirty four to thirty fourth felonies.

(18:37):
You've actually got to say it in stelter voice, thirty
fourth feladies. It is absurd and everybody knows it. But Clay,
I think they, to your point, recognize what it delivered
Trump the election to have a judge in New York City,
with the whole Sham trial everything going on. To say
a presidential candidate should go to prison for a book

(18:59):
key keeping dispute, really, I mean, I don't even think
anything was wrong with any of this, or a book
keeping dispute internally where there was no crime committed whatsoever.
And even if there was a crime, it's like a
you know, jaywalking. I mean, the thing is absurd to
say president should go to prison for that is just

(19:21):
it's just nuts. It's two nuts for them to pull
it off. So I think the delay, I agree with you,
is at least in part driven by oh my gosh,
would this have backfired even more? Because I think the
lawfare up to this point in terms of the polling,
I think it has backfired. I think they believe that
the whole thing. Remember, not only were they going to
try to drag Biden across the finish line. Still a
little sad about this, all right, it's still a little

(19:42):
it's a little raw. It's a little little student for
me because I really did think they were going to
take Biden. But whatever. But Clay, a part of it
was why did they believe that they would be able
to drag Biden across the finish line, even though he
has dementia? And it's because they thought the lawfair stuff
would turn the country against Trump and a substantial way.
He's a convicted felon. I have not met a single

(20:04):
person who said he's a convicted felon. No, I don't
like him. The only people who care about it hated
Trump before.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's been again. The order just coming down as we
are talking to all of you. The delay is now
for sentencing and punishment scheduled for November twenty sixth of
twenty twenty four So three weeks after election day is

(20:33):
now when Trump would face some sort of legal consequence
according to Judge merchand he has posted his He has
posted his ruling saying that he doesn't want to get it, ironically,
that he doesn't want to get involved in the actual
process of the case itself. And so November twenty sixth,

(20:55):
I mean this is again I will just point out
buck all of these left wingers who have been dreaming
of Trump getting Trump now four years, they keep getting
lucied with the Charlie Brown football like they're like, we
finally got him. Now he's gonna go to Rikers Island.

(21:17):
Then he's gonna and they just keep delaying. I think
if he wins on November twenty sixth, meaning Trump wins
the election on November twenty sixth, I think that they
will do some sort of very petty punishment. And I
think the law air is going to be regarded as

(21:37):
one of the most disastrous own goals in the history
of presidential politics because I think it has rallied Trump supporters.
I think it may well propel Trump into the White House.
And if you questioned whether that was true or not.
Do you have any doubt at all, Buck that if
they thought it was beneficial on September eighteenth to do

(21:57):
something to Trump, they would have done it. It's politically
suicidal to make this decision, and so they bumped it
to after the trial.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Just also looking at the election. Yeah, after the narrative,
the narrative shifts that have occurred here, no one even
mentions anymore that Donald Trump took a bullet through the
ear while campaigning in Pennsylvania. Correct, Like this is you
know he's running. This is a man who took a
bullet to run for president, running against Kamala Harris was.

(22:31):
I don't know, has never sacrificed anything for anybody that
I've ever seen, other than just trying to advance Kamala's
political prospects. Like we're just the sense of destiny and
history and everything else that you would expect for a
presidential candidate who has been through how many total trials?
I know it's for criminal, but is it six? With it?

Speaker 1 (22:52):
There's too civil? Right, I can't keep it all least,
I think you're right. I think it's six different major
legal proceedings, and that doesn't even include Buck all of
the people surrounding Trump who have also been including it
was an Alan Weiselberg for not reporting that he got
a car.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
It went to prison. I mean, look, it's it's really
affected a lot of people, including me, how we think
about trying to live in New York City as a conservative.
I mean, they're gonna throw you, and they're gonna throw
a senior citizen accountant in prison for you know, a
lot of people don't even know that you would have
I know, he's an account so he would probably know,
but a lot of people wouldn't even know that you're

(23:28):
supposed to do that list on your taxes. I had
use of a company car like this is this is
mickey mouse stuff. They send him to prison for that.
They didn't say you have to pay a fine, so
you have to take this stuff into account. But I
just think the fact that Trump is up against commona
when you see what has been thrown in his way,
really starting with the raid on mar al Lago, which, oh,
it's worth noting that whole case has been just thrown

(23:51):
out by the federal judge. So the raid that kicked
off the law there, that case is caput. Right now,
that case is done. So, and you had four criminal cases,
You've had six major legal proceedings all meant to get
Trump regular the eging Carrold defamation, you the Trump uh

(24:13):
corporation stuff, the civil stuff, the Letitia James in New York,
even the four criminal trials. The guy took a bullet
and just barely survived. It was a miracle that he survived.
And there's still people who are like, yeah, I think
I might vote for Kamala Harris. I just seen here.
I'm like, what what world are we living in? I mean,
on the one side, you've got the You've got a

(24:34):
story of like, uh, you know, just the tasks of
Hercules or something, and then it's just like Kamala Harris, Yeah,
let's give it to her. She's the nominee, you know
what I mean. It's just there's there's no comparison in
terms of the gravity and the seriousness between these two
political figures, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
And again that is why I think you're starting to
see a panic if Trump can just stay between the
lines on Tuesday and not be the worst version of
himself from a independent voter perspective, which we saw in
the first debate against Joe Biden. Then Kamala's campaign is

(25:13):
going to go up and smoke. I think there are
embers right now, there are Do you want to play?
We'll play when we come back. When you get Dana Perino,
who is maybe the nicest person on television in America,
when you get her fired up and she fullays you,

(25:34):
I mean, you are just not ready for prime time
in any respect. This is Kamala Harris's spokesperson. We'll play
that for you. I think you were about to call
for it until this great news gave time. You have
a timeles do it here?

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yes, play Dana Perino with the campaign. The Kamala campaign
spokesperson hit it.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
They haven't heard from her. I and I know that
she did the speech in New Hampshire. But the President Trump,
for all the interviews that he's he's willing to take
questions everything. Is it a risk to put all your
chips on one debate when she hasn't really been able
to do any sort of Q and A with anybody
except for in debate prep.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
Well, I'd reject that. She sat down with Dana Bash
for a long interview on CNN.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
At aired one interview in forty seven days.

Speaker 7 (26:17):
Well, you know, I know, you guys are just now
paying attention to her now that she's the presidential candidate.
But she's done about ninety interviews this year is the
vice president, and people maybe weren't paying attention or listening.
She's taken questions from reporters on the campaign trail so
far in this campaign, people who are covering her every
single day. She's going to do more interviews and Comma
press Moore and take more reporter questions. Of course, she's

(26:38):
going to do that over the course of this campaign.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Look, Dana's brand to what, to the degree I can
speak to it is she's you know, she's honest and
fair and very nice. Yes, and you know she's being
a very nice person. That's just that's I mean, I've
met her, you know, and a lot of people know her.
She's a very nice person, good journalist. I don't mean
she's too nice. I just mean, you know, she's very
polite to guess, and she's just like, come on, dude,

(27:03):
come on, dude. Oh she's done a lot of interviews
as the vice president. So that's the same thing as
running in a presidential campaign.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
This is absurd and bragging that she set down for
a long interview with the Dana Bash A long interview.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, I think it was like eighteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I just they are terrified of what might happen for her,
and man, I really wish that we did truly have
an adversarial media. Give jd Vance an example. The guy
will sit down and talk to CNN, MSNBC, NBC News,
all the people that are going to come after him.

(27:40):
I really, legitimately desperately have some wish that on the
debate itself, they would actually confront Kamala with all of
the flip flopping and try to hold her feet to
the fire. And I hope Trump will ask questions of her.
I know you're not technically supposed to, but for me

(28:02):
Trump pointing out that she supports reparations and now wants
to build a border wall, he could turn to her
and say, Kamala, why don't you endorse me now that
you are coming along with me on wanting to build
a border wall.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Uh, I gotta tell you something. And I know that
we've been talking about this and I've agreed with you
Clay up to this point. That both camps will come
away and say that you know their side wanted, and yeah,
that will happen. I actually think Kamala's gonna get pretty badly.
It's not gonna be a knockout, but this, this would
be a this would be a unanimous decision by the

(28:38):
judges if the judges were on on Well, we know we've.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Got the rig judge system, so we know that they'll
have a pole and Kamala will win, probably on CNN
and things like.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
That, of course. But but but it's gonna she's she's
gonna lose momentum. I think she's gonna get her butt
kicked up there. I really do. I don't think it's
gonna because and I couldn't say that for all of
the Biden debate. I couldn't. I mean, and that it's
just not wasn't Trump's best showing. I said it at
the time. I think he's gonna it's gonna be a
butt kicking up there. I really think so. The more

(29:08):
I've really been thinking about it, she is so weak.
I mean, having Tim wall it's like, you know, it's
like an emotional support blanket.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
It's super weird. And and by the way, Tim Walls
is dumber than she is. We're making fun of Kamala.
Tim Wallas hasn't set for an interview.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I gotta tell you something. Also, I know that we've
been saying that Kamala not picking Shapiro.

Speaker 7 (29:32):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
I don't think Shapiro wanted to be on this ticket.
I think he wants to run his own campaign. I
think he thinks that Kamala is gonna lose. You'll never
get that confirmed anywhere, right, because he's not going to
say that. I don't. I think he's too sharp though
a guy, to want to attach himself to be Kamala's
VP when he gets to run his own deal in
the next cycle. I think if he thinks Kamala's gonna lose,
which I think he does well, and he would have

(29:54):
good access to polling in Pennsylvania, right, Yes, big time.
So I think I think that matters. All right. We
will get back into all this year. In a second
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Speaker 2 (32:00):
All right, welcome back into clay An Buck got some
breaking news for you on this lovely Friday. RFK Junior
he's getting some points, giving him some points from the Buckster.
He has his The Supreme Court in the state of
North Carolina, Clay just told me, has agreed that RFK

(32:21):
Junior's name must be removed from the ballot as per
his request. So okay, he's off in North Carolina. If
it doesn't end up getting to going to another court.
The Court of Appeal so far has done it. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I imagine that. And this is important, Buck that the
Biden team Harris team is going to immediately appeal and
demand that RFK Junior's name stay on the ballot in
North Carolina because they think it hurts Trump. Look if
RFK Junior endorsed Trump, which I was very happy about,
and all along I've been saying that that's what he

(32:55):
should do. I also think he should have waited. Rather,
he shouldn't have waited so long to do it, and
shouldn't have stayed in so long, because now we have
this problem. If he gets off all the ballots and
all the key swing states left great, okay, welcome to
the party, RFK Junior. But it's not a good thing
for Trump if he stays on in those states. That
is just a reality, and it's a misstep. Perhaps RFK Junior,

(33:18):
I'm sure doesn't want it to be that way, but
this is the concern that some of us have had
all along of running what is effectively a vanity campaign.
And that's when when you get so deep into the election,
it's a vanity campaign. And in Michigan and Wisconsin in particular,
the Kamala Harris campaign is trying to insist after months
of wanting RFK Junior off the ballot, they now are

(33:40):
trying to insist that he cannot pull his name off the.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Ballot if Kamala Harris can be four banning straws, then
against it, four reparations that against it the Democrat parties,
certainly Clay can be four RFK Junior on the ballot
or rather against RFK Junior on the ballot and now
for it.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
And by the way, that data is the reason why
it in North Carolina right now is today was scheduled
to be the day that ballots were first sent out
in North Carolina and they would have RFK Junior's name
on them. So this is a major legal dispute given
the fact that North Carolina is a battleground state.

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Lay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We bring
in our good friend Michael Berry, Houston based. We appreciate
all of you listening in Houston. Massive audience down there,
and he's got some great news. You guys know, I
know many of you start off your day listening to

(35:29):
Premiere all day long. We appreciate those of you who
listen to us, who listened to Sean Hannity after us,
Glenn Peck before us, Jesse Kelly despite the fact that
he has awful taste in pricey tequila or is maybe
really good taste as long as he doesn't have to
pay for it, and soon to be a part of
the overall Premiere Network group. Michael Berry, congratulations on the

(35:54):
news that you're going to be joining the team. Tell
people out there who may want to know how to
listen and and how that process will take place.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Thank you, Clay Well. It's a huge honor obviously to
get to join with you guys, because as most people know,
we happen to be friends off the air as well.
It's an incredible honor. It's the top syndicator. It's the
folks that brought people rushed, still bring Sean, Henny Glenn back.
It's you know, it's the big leagues, and so it's
what everybody wants to do. You're on the big Park,

(36:24):
You're you're in the Big Park, You're on the big Mound,
You're you're, You're, You're there. It's exciting and then from
there you've got to be good at what you do. So, uh,
we'll be on after Jessic Kelly across the country. So
that process will take time as stations hopefully come on.
But as you know, the Premier team, Julie Talbot, Peter Trippy,
Craig Kitchen, all the folks that have provided these shows

(36:46):
for all these years, and now you've got that horse
power behind you. I mean that's I'm just I'm fired up.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Well, congratulations to the TSAR of Talk richly deserved, and we
also appreciate you being a phenomenal lead in after a
dominating the airwave so many years in Houston. So thank
you for that, Michael, because we've been we've been able
to reach so many Houstonians as a result of what
a great station you got down there. I want to
ask you about where you think.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
We're surprised when you came to Houston and the welcome
you got from and y'all hadn't been on that long,
the welcome you got when we did our event, and
that was just a just that we were limited to capacity.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
But you guys are amazing.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
And I know you look at your ratings, but Eddie
Martinez will tell you guys are killing it here.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well, thank you sir. Yeah, we we were like, hey,
who wants to come hang out with us and Michael
and Jesse Kelly And they're like fifteen hundred people showed
up to a barbecue. We're like, okay, I think Houston
is home territory. This is great, but let's let's let's
get into where we're all going here, mister Barry, which
is an election that, like every election is important and
I know, but to me, if we lose this one,

(37:53):
it's too depressing to even contemplate. I do believe Donald
Trump is going to win. Let's focus in on the
upcoming debate. Do you think it matters? And how do
you expect it to go?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
It scares me that the expectations are that Donald Trump
gives the most soaring speech in all of history, and
that Kamala Harris stumbles and falls on the ground and
and you know, spews venom because you know, expectations game
is what put George W. Bush ahead in every debate
because everyone thought he would he would screw it up,
and all he had to do was was have a pulse,

(38:26):
and he would have you know, he exceeded expectations. It's
like the stock market report. She has such low expectations
that I see her possibly exceeding those, and it's too
much pressure for Trump. He did so well against Biden,
and of course they're going to be skewed against him,
which is why. Of course Kamala didn't do that the
interview which with Trump a few days ago. But look,

(38:49):
when it comes down to policy, Trump knows it inside
and out, and she doesn't, and I think people people
are well aware of that. I like the direction Trump
is going. He's talking about the forgotten man. He's talking
talking about issues that matter outside of traditional political circles
and outside of partisan folks. He's talking about the inflation,
he's talking about crime. He's talking about boys playing in

(39:12):
girls sports and breaking their noses. And that's where tampon
Tim's weirdness comes out. I see Trump getting back to
the twenty sixteen that identified with the low information voter,
the a political voter, the RFK coming in helps. I
think the Trump campaign is doing well, and yes, I'm
worried about the debate because of the expectations game.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Michael, what don you tell us about the cruise campaign
in Texas? Because as much attention as we can give
to the presidential situation, and certainly it matters a great deal.
Republicans are really poised to take back control of the
Senate too. Ted CRUs got a race been under the
radar a little bit. You think he's in good spot
there in general, because other than Ted Cruz and Rick

(39:56):
Scott in Florida, and I don't think those guys are
so targets. But that's really the only hope that Democrats
would have is that they could flip one of those seats.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Clay, I am so glad you asked that, because I
think across the country, too many folks are going to
vote for Trump and walk out, and you've got to
vote all the way down the ballot. I think Ted
Cruse is slightly ahead at this point, and that's not
a sign of him not being popular. That's a sign
of a lot of Californians having moved to Texas, and
a lot of Californians in New York are spending a
lot of money on the Democrat challenger to Ted Cruz.

(40:29):
They did this six years ago, they did it twelve
years ago. But Ted Cruz represents Texas in the United
States Senate.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Very very well.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
And that matters to people whether you live in Houston, Dallas,
San Antone, Austin, or out in West Texas as a
rancher or farmer. He represents our values and that's important.
That gets lost in the mix of all this. You know,
he goes into those Senate meetings, those judiciary hearings, He
goes into meetings with over the budget, he goes into

(41:00):
meetings over bad policy, and he absolutely nails people to
the wall, and that makes Texans proud that he's a Texan.
So I think he pulls it out. But it's a
very very tough race here.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I was also thinking about, as Michael, you're a guy
who doesn't doesn't like like a lot of people throw
a nonsense around. You see through it very quickly. Kamala
Harris is now apparently in favor of the wall. I mean,
I guess the wall wouldn't be that far from from
you with Texas, right, it would just be down there
on the border. What are we to make of this

(41:31):
when she's stealing Trump ideas just so that she can
fool people, I guess, how does this work? Well?

Speaker 4 (41:38):
But the amazing thing is I still think that that
illegal immigration and the border is the number one issue
in Texas because we bear the brunt of this problem,
as do people in Arizona to a lesser extent. But
I'll tell you it's now a nationwide problem, especially since
our governor very wisely started busting illegals. And just a

(41:59):
few of are illegals landing in Denver and Chicago and
New York and they go run and you remember what
happened to Martha's vineyard they had to take down there.
They're welcome to this. They don't want these people there
because it's really bad for them. I think that it
tells you that their polling numbers reveal that illegal immigration
is hurting her and hurting her badly, and so if

(42:20):
she has to go back on everything she said before,
she'll do it. And that is a very telling fact.
The American public. Three quarters of the American public wants
illegal immigration stopped in about seventy percent of them want
them deported.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Michael, I'm curious how much you hear this. You mentioned it,
the number of people that are moving to Texas from
blue states. This will be one of the first cycles.
I know you had twenty twenty two, but the midterms
aren't necessarily driving the same level of turnout. What do
you think that's going to look like from Texas? And
are you feeling like some are moving because they're read

(42:56):
voters or is there kind of a consistent concern in
Texas that these What I hear a lot is that
basically these people are locusts. They destroy where they were,
for instance, California, and then they go somewhere new and
bring the same policies that they destroyed the state they
left behind to the new place.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
I think that's a very astute point that a lot
of people are not picking up on. You know, the
Californians that went to Oregon, they made Oregon more liberal
and ruined part of it. The Californians that have gone
to Colorado very liberal and more fruits and nuts. The
people that are coming to Texas, the numbers, guys show
me numbers that say, believe it or not, the people

(43:36):
who come here are red already and making us more red.
And I think you've seen that in Florida, Buck, I
think you've seen it in Tennessee Clay, because it's people
that are going there that want to be around like
minded people, and so they're fleeing the Californians and seeking
a refuge as opposed to being people that.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Were blue that came for a job.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
And my number show that we become more red as
a result of it.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I mean, Michael, the numbers in Florida, which I'm pretty
familiar with, speak directly to what you're saying, which is
it used to be a two hundred and fifty thousand
right before Ron DeSantis was sworn in two hundred and
fifty thousand Democrat registration advantage in the state. I think
it's now a Republican advantage of plus a million, which
is amazing when you think about it, huge shift. So yeah,

(44:25):
that is a santus. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's it's
been an amazing phenomenon here. But you've got to keep
Texas red or else the whole country fall. So just
get to work on that, Okay.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Well, and you got to keep Ted Cruz in the
Senate because Ted Cruz is a guy much like a
Rand Fall. There's a couple of guys in politics that
no one can replace them in the importance of how
they can get news into the cycle and how they
can move the news cycle and the political cycle forward,
and Cruise plays a key role in that.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Absolutely well. Congrats again to our friend Michael Barry the
talk on his national syndication by Premiere Networks and we
got to come down to Houston and hang out soon. Michael,
thanks for being with us.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
I would love that you guys have been very kind
to me and and along with our good friend Jesse Kelly.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I appreciate you guys. Congrass right back at you. Thank
you congrats that all of you. I gotta say, I
don't think for a minute that Clay is the only
one who is on the Prize Picks App. Okay, I'm
learning a trick or two. I've been up in my
game a bit. I got, you know, the tennis stuff
going on here. Now it's football season, so I've downloaded
the prize picks app and Clay and I might have

(45:34):
to start having some friendly wagers with the two of us.
You know who's gonna hit more prize picks parlays. I
even know what a parlay is. Now, that's right.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
If I lose to you, then I'm really struggling football season.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I mean, I'm just gonna say this. Now, you've been
doing pretty well in you know, tennis. If I lose
football to you, I might have to retire. Challenge accepted.
All right, We're gonna have to do some football betty here.
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Speaker 2 (46:00):
Even I can do it. And all you do is
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Clay on his projection for the football last night, and
to be fair, he was super close to a tow
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