Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Oct 14 2024

It's Columbus Day. Buck on Bill Maher. Black men for Trump.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome it everybody. Monday edition Columbus Day edition of the
Clay Travis n. Bucks Exton Show gets going right now.
I am here in studio with my may man Clay
in NYC. And yes, there is still a Columbus statue
near here in Columbus Circle. They have not been able

(00:21):
to tear it down yet. Although Clay, you might have
seen Saint John's University, the largest Catholic university in the
state of New York, has apparently canceled canceled Columbus Day celebration.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, did you know it was Columbus Day when you
woke up this morning?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I mean I, yeah, yesterday. Because I love talking about
the truth of what an Indigenous People's Day history celebration
would mean. I like to discuss with people that the
Aztecs were a massive empire, as were the Mayans, built
a top slavery and human sacrifice and the mutilation and
torture of your enemies, and that we don't know that

(01:01):
much more about the native peoples in this country because
they had neither the wheel nor written language, nor had
they even discovered animal husbandry, as in we had to
give them horses, or rather, the Spanish did so the
Plains Indians got their horses from the Europeans who came.
This is not something that has known very well. So yes,
if we want to have some Indigenous People's Day talk,

(01:22):
we can do that as well. But yes, no, Columbus Day,
I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Ah not, you know, we got to have it.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Always feels like kind of a ridiculous holiday, right when
people don't work on Columbus Day. I'm always like, that's
the a little sit.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'll tell you. You're a Nasville guy. I don't know
how many Italians you have in Nashville. Okay, I'm a
New York guy and so here New York area, a
lot of guys are like A.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I like Columbus Day.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I like this guy Columbus good on the ship, you know,
important stuff. May I found some good.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's one of the great Uh Sopranos episodes.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Where Tony Sopranos like, hey, the guy he got on
a boat, he got over the he's amazing. So yeah,
Columbus Day, it was. It was incredible, changed the world,
and we celebrate the achievement of the discovery and the
bravery required for it. We celebrate it proudly. We don't
have to sit here and be like, well, what were
Columbus's positions on trans rights? We're not going there. Okay,

(02:22):
nobody had good positions on trend I promise you the
Aztecs didn't have good positions on trans rights or anything
else then either, But we will. We'll get into also
a lot of the news of the day here, beyond
just beyond just Columbus Day, which I think is always
kind of fun. And I hope that if Kamala Harris
does any interview, she's asked about this, you know, and

(02:42):
she's asked about whether Indigenous People's Day should should replace it.
We have Clay a lot, a lot of news items
to get to. Oh just in terms of amazing accomplishments too.
I won't spend too much time on this, but if
you have not seen it, I shared it on x,
which is the platform Elon owns. The recapture of the
Starship as it comes back down to Earth, we don't

(03:04):
do a lot of I feel like the Starship Enterprise
theme song should be in the background here. We don't
talk a lot about you know, outer space exploration and
the forefront of science here. This is incredible. This guy
who may have saved free speech in the Western world
because of his purchase of X, and has changed the
car industry and is creating robots that are almost too human.

(03:28):
It's getting freaky. Also has reopened Clay Space Exploration. The
entire space industry has had life breathe into it by
Elon Musk and it's going to take some time, but
we are now on a trajectory to dramatically expand as
a species or ability to be in space to colonize

(03:49):
other places. It's incredible stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I was texting with my sixteen year old about this
last night. He was so impressed. He loved the idea
of space travel. I know many of you out there
probably are fascinated by it too. What Elon has done
when you talk about remaking the automobile, entire engine and
whether you want to buy an EV or not, the
fact that that even exists is pretty remarkable, and that

(04:15):
SpaceX is better than NASA at Space Exploration. Now Elon
and we know he's bought X, which is a major
difference in the way the media has impacted. But Elon's
goal is to be on Mars before he dies. I
think he's going to manage it. And it's a pretty
remarkable thing to contemplate all that he has accomplished, and

(04:38):
it makes me feel good that he is on the
Trump train as aggressively as he is because he sees
the woke mind virus as a threat to human accomplishing.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think that's that's critical because if he wasn't also
political now and fully on the Trump train, there would
already be in you know, elite academic and technology circles
at the very top discussion of how this guy is
lining himself up in terms of his accomplishments, which I
think are beyond lining himself up to be in the

(05:06):
category of those greats like Isaac Newton, Da Vinci, Einstein, Marconi, Gutenberg.
This is civilization advancing stuff that he is doing. So
you know, we're trust me, friends, We're gonna dive into
politics here. I was on Bill Maher Friday. We'll talk
about that, did a great job talking about that. We'll
get into some of the Bill Maher stuff and the

(05:28):
Kamala campaign, which still feels like it's in a slow
motion implosion. But I just want to take a moment
as we are thinking about Columbus Day and standing firm
on the celebration of an incredible achievement that there was
another civilization advancing achievement that occurred over the weekend with
video that you can see. We should put it up

(05:49):
on clambuck dot com just so people have an easy
way to see this. But the recapture of I think
it's the largest. I think it's the largest thing sent
up into the sky ever as well. And then I
will just say it's not a plane, right, It's like
the largest aerial object that we've ever had up in
the air. And to have it recaptured and make it reusable.

(06:11):
This is in a hundred years. In one hundred years,
no one's gonna be talking about how Kamala gave the
worst speeches and who care, right, I mean, you know,
we'll see if she's president. To your point, Clay, nobody
will even remember her name in ten years if she
doesn't win, but they will remember this moment going in,
you know, and on this Columbus Day, people can think too,
this is a civilization advancing achievement. And I just think,

(06:34):
you know, all due respect to not just Elon but
everyone at SpaceX and the people who are doing incredible
things incredible. Things are still very possible, despite the communists
who are trying to tear us all down. So let's
get into what's going on here with the campaign, Clay,
I know we've got some some polls here. Oh, we've
also got the Martha Rattits versus jad Vance throwdown. Have

(06:56):
you did you see that?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, I thought Jady's I have some I'm okay, you
could give me a little bit apology. Some people have
been writing me the last month or two. Lock, Well,
you were right, Jady's really good. I'm sorry I yelled that.
You you know, I'm like, It's okay. Hop on the
JD train, which is part of the Trump train. Everyone
is welcome, good to go. We shall discuss all that.

(07:19):
But Clay, the big thing, and this actually ties into
the mar appearance on Friday. The big thing is it's
panic time in the Kamala campaign. Based on the numbers.
What is the latest you are seeing and how are
you feeling about where it's all going with what three weeks?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Get your votes in. I'm gonna vote on Thursday. I'm
up here with you in New York again raising money
for tunnels to towers. Tomorrow, be back with you here
in New York on Wednesday. I want all of you
to go vote early. But there is a lot of
really good data that suggests things are breaking in a
very positive manner for Donald Trump, and there's a panic

(07:57):
setting in. And you know that panic setting in when
they're just throwing out Buck all these different arguments that
are complete failures. They're trying to say, now Kamala is
that they're hiding, that they're hiding Donald Trump, who is
doing rallies everywhere, who is doing interviews everywhere he can

(08:19):
speak with the largest possible audiences, and the continued pivot Buck.
This news just came down. Things are going so bad
for Kamala that she's sitting for a Fox News interview
with Brett Baher on Wednesday. If you were wondering how
her campaign is going, she did the view, she did
Stephen Colbert, she did call her Daddy, she did all

(08:43):
of these different outlets, she did the sixty minutes, and
none of that moved the needle. In fact, I would
argue last week may have been the worst week of
Kamala Harris's presidential campaign so far. I don't have that.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
On mar we totally agree, we're absolutely in agreement on
that point.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Do you think she's gonna come off well with Brett Baher?
I mean, Brett Baher, to his credit, has gone after
Donald Trump pretty aggressively, where Trump was upset sometimes at
the questioning that he got from Brett Bayer.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You know, here's something. Joe Biden had been in public
life for forty years, so he was recognized. I'm going
back to twenty twenty now for a second. Everyone knew
who he was. He had been Obama's VP for eight
years and so there wasn't much mystery around him. And
he had always taken whatever the popular position was for
a Democrat at that point in time. But when we

(09:34):
talk about to hide him in the basement campaign, that
was more acceptable at that time. Yes it was bad faith,
Yes it was slimy, but there was a COVID pandemic.
He is really old. He was actually at risk, right,
he wasn't. I'm not crazy like he didn't want to
be almost eighty and get COVID, just like he would on.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
The road everywhere, shaken hands, kissing babies.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
So there was a legitimate ground of excus use for
the hide Biden in the Basement campaign. The hide Kamala
from the public campaign is just too much. I know
people said, oh, they ran this in twenty twenty. I've
been sitting here saying, yeah, but guys, it's not the same.
She's not under, you know, in mortal peril from an
aerosol eyes virus. Because she should be, as I said

(10:19):
on the mar Show, sitting down with a blanket across
her knees, feeding the ducks. Because she's too old. Biden
was too old. That's different when you.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Are panicked and you're trotting out new arguments three weeks
until election day. It's kind of a throw everything at
the wall and see what will stick and listen. I
just want to play this for you. This was Kamala
in North Carolina claiming that they are trying to hide
Trump cut eight.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
It makes you wonder.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
It makes you wonder. Why does his sad want him.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
To hide away?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
One last question?

Speaker 5 (10:58):
One last question? Are they afraid that people will see
that he is too weak and unstable?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Trump hiding Buck is so desperate. The guy's doing rallies
all over the country, talking for hours at a time.
Everywhere he is turning, he's doing a different interview when
you start to hear arguments like these. To me, it's
emblematic that they do not have good numbers and they're
just trying to find something that catches on.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, she's also doing the thing that Libs constantly do,
which is accused somebody else of what she herself is doing.
The whole strategy has been to hide, and now she's
saying Donald Trump is hiding. You know, this is like,
I don't know, maybe if you're talking to a Democrat
and they keep interrupting you, and then they say that
you're interrupting them, something that those of you who watch

(11:51):
Bill Maher may be familiar with. These are the tactics
that democrats use, and I think that it's not working,
and that's obvious by the chain. You don't change strategy
in the fourth quarter, you know what I mean, Clay.
You don't change strategy in the fourth quarter if you're winning,
and so she is not winning. Here is just to
give you a sense of the numbers. I watch Morning

(12:12):
Joe in the mornings. I like to know what the
enemy is saying. NBC's Kornaki, Steve Koranaki, it's actually one
of the more reasonable guys over there here. He is
this cut fifteen on where Kamala's numbers are.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
We just asked the basic image perception people have, is
it positive or negative of these candidates. Look at Harris
forty three positive, forty nine negative.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
We pulled this a month ago.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
She was forty eight percent positive and forty five negative.
She was above water. As they say, that's completely reversed.
It now looks very similar to Trump's. That's a pretty
big shift when you're talking about erase this close. And
then there's the weight of the fact she's the VP
in an unpopular administration.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
And then here's the interesting twist.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
We also asked folks think back to when Donald Trump
was president.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Did his policies help or hurt your family?

Speaker 6 (13:00):
And look at the difference forty four percent helping thirty
one hurting. The retrospective, you would say opinion of Trump's
presidency among voters arguably higher now than when he was president.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Clay is, this is a long way of saying, the
more people see of Kamala, the less they want to
vote for Kamala.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Which we said on this program, and that was the
lesson of Kamala Harris's twenty twenty presidential campaign. And I
was at a football game over the weekend Florida, Tennessee.
A lot of you watch games Saturday and Sunday. Your
point is well taken. The analogy fits. You change your
entire strategy if you're trailing late, and unfortunately for Kamala

(13:39):
that opens her up to massive criticisms. The fact that
she's sitting with Fox News. Buck, then numbers must be
awful internally if she's thinking she's going to benefit by
talking to them.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
What is the one thing we can come back on this?
I want to ask, and let's I want to hear
you on the other side of this. If you got
to say to Brett bar one area where you really
want to answer. Brett's a very good interviewer, very fair,
but he's going to push when he should push, because
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to know what you think. The most heald one is. Look,
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Speaker 1 (15:24):
Christopher Columbus, the Genoese explorer, thanks to the Spanish monarchy,
changes the world, changes the future of humanity in a
way that is amazing and worthy of celebration and incredible achievement.
This is a moment perhaps where you might be wondering, Oh,

(15:48):
what does the leadership of the Democrat Party think about
Christopher Columbus? Well, where do they come down on this issue?
Oh gosh, I don't know. What about the person who
is held up by the Democrats as the the next
leader of the free world? What does Kamala Harris. I'm sure,
by the way, we're probably a few hours from this

(16:09):
being Oh, she no longer feels that way. Right, We'll
get somebody anonymously from political will say, you know, scoop,
Kamala Harris aid, say she no longer feels this way
about Columbus Day. But yeah, you know, Clayton, it's totally.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Gonna It is funny that you would have to have
somebody anonymous say, yeah, she actually is a big Columbus
Day personally.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Big Columbus. Oh, huge fan of Columbus, celebrates his whole catalog.
Here she is in not like two thousand and eight,
not two thousand and two. Here she is at the
beginning of her vice presidential term talking about uh European
explorers on the This is the National Congress of American

(16:52):
Indian seventy eighth Annual Convention. This is what she thinks
about the exploration of America. Play it.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Since nineteen thirty four, every October, the United States has
recognized the voyage of the European explorers who first landed
on the shores of the Americas. But that is not
the whole story. That has never been the whole story.

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Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations,
perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease. We must not
shy away from this shameful past, and we must shed
light on it and do everything we can to address

(17:41):
the impact of the past on Native communities today.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Okay, this could be a much longer conversation about what
the reservation system in America has turned into and all
the casinos and all this stuff. M clay, I would
just put it this way. It was amazing what Columbus
accomplished and in terms of everything that came afterwards, and
I've read extensively about what it was like even in
the pre American colonial error, bad stuff was done on

(18:13):
both sides. They lost the Europeans won and now we're
an American and it's a great place. Like what really,
even if we took kama letter word here, what are
we supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It is a fantastic question. And I mean, if you
had a real historical conversation, what in Kamala Harris's ideal
world would the fourteen and fifteen hundreds have looked like?
What should have occurred that did not? Overwhelmingly, Western civilization

(18:46):
has made the world better. And so to pick different
aspects of history that you don't like five hundred years
ago that none of us had any control over, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Just want to know, oh, how many lives if we're
gonna play this game. And she's like, oh, well, they
brought disease, Well, yes, because the immune systems of the
people who were isolated here from the rest of the
planet were unable to handle pathogens that were freely spread
in societies all over the world by trade and exploration.
But just put that aside. How many lives were actually
saved by and I'm talking about all in by things

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like I don't know, antibiotics. Yeah, how many lives were
saved by clean drinking water? How many lives have been
saved by the civilizational advances that, by the way, didn't
just come from Europe, came from many places around the world.
But they were civilizational advances. We can't just pick the
bad and leave out the good. And also, I would
point out there is such a rewriting of history that

(19:42):
goes on when it comes to the native tribes in
this country, Clay. They were in a constant state of
warfare with each other. I mentioned the Aztecs, but even
if you look at other tribes, including tribes that were
that were in Texas, tribes that were in the northeast
parts of the Irrequoidation, cannibalism was practiced. They'd like to
eat their enemies. They would say it was for ritual purposes,
but uh, mutilation of men, women and children in warfare

(20:06):
like this. This whole notion that it was like the
movie Pocahontas, where everyone's just you know, the the noble
navmis and the bees and everyone's just getting along is
a complete and utter lie. They were in a stone
age in terms of the civilizational advances. They had, as
we pointed out, no wheel, no writing, and they fought

(20:26):
wars against the people that showed up here just like,
people fight wars all over the world and they lost
and now we're all you know, now we're all here together.
So I just the whole thing to me is a one.
It's it's ahistorical, it's it's unhelpful today. But Comma, there's
Kamala Harris who's like, oh, well, the horrible things that
the Europeans did.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Also, there was no way to stop disease. Even if
we had arrived here and only been super kind to everyone,
the disease was still going to spread widely.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Do we It's actually a lot of these diseases they think.
Bubonic plague, for example, came from Asia and arrived on
ships originally in Venice and you know merchants, Genoese merchants,
Venetian merchants, and then it made its way all through Europe.
Are we sitting here like we need we need reparations
from Asia for the bubonic plague? You know, six hundred

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years ago? No, man, I mean it was a tough world.
Things happened, bad stuff went down. I don't want to
tell you human beings, humanity life was brutish, nasty and short. Anyway,
I don't want to spend too much time on it.
I do just think it's worth noting that Kamala Harris
goes along with this. I do want to note that
I hear from people all the time now when they
go to college tours and stuff. They start with these

(21:43):
indigenous land, you know, proclamation about how I know how
we are here on stolen land. Actually, no, it's ours now. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I am taking my son around my oldest to visit
different campuses, and many of the campus tours Buck, before
they even tell you about the history of the school
at all, begin with land acknowledgments. And I felt like
I was being pranked. When you're there and you're excited

(22:13):
to go tour a campus and the very first thing
the campus tour guide says is before we start to
walk you around here, we want to acknowledge this is
stolen land. I can't believe that this is complate. They
do this now Buck in many universities, on the first
day of class, it's written in the syllabus, these land acknowledgments.

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It's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You know, when you go back and you actually read
the history, if you read honest history of what happened,
and a lot Texans tend to know more about this
Texas was out on its own, particularly the early eighteen
hundreds and going up to the period of the Civil War,
when it came to dealing with the native tribes, particularly
the Comanche, the Apache, the Kiowa, and one of the
things that's left out it's always, oh, though the white

(22:58):
man made these treaties and broke the treaties, there would
be these tribes Commanche's a good example, and they would decide,
like some of the young braves would decide that they
wanted to out make a name for themselves, and they
would do something called murder raids. That's actually what they
called it. Then they weren't trying to they weren't showing
up at a fort and fighting with able bodied men

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to see who was going to be in controlled territory.
They would wait until women and children were left alone.
They would go in enslave and or rape, murder, mutilate.
And then when we would sit and say, hold on
a second, I thought we had a treaty with you guys.
You know, the chief would say, sorry, I can't control everybody,
or sorry, that's not my tribe. Well, you know, imagine
that that's your life on the frontier. After a while,
you get pretty tired of that. So there's a total

(23:40):
rewriting of this issue that goes on people. One of
the problems even then was that Texans were like, this
is horrible, this is what's going on, And people in
DC and the Northeast were, what's the problem? Yeah, aren't
they Aren't they just you know, civilizing like all the
rest of us, And is everything great? No it is not.
Actually they're going on murder raids.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
And this is a history that's not talked about ever.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Ever.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I do a whole podcast series on this. People should
know this stuff. People should know what went on. People
should know that they that first of all, they were
they were slavers. The Native America. Oh yes, practiced widespread
and continuous slavery against each other and eventually against white
settlers who were here. Yes, there was a huge.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
So all of this is a like, can we play
just to have a little bit of humor. We've got
the sopranos, because we mentioned this in the past hour.
I think we've got the sopranos audio.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I hope we have the bleeps in there. I think,
well we'll the bleeps. Okay, all right, we got bleeps, all.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Right, So here is Tony Soprano one of the great
shows in the history of television. Weighing in to your point,
we're here in New York City, huge Italian population. My
mother in law's Italian. She would probably nod along entirely
with Tony Soprano.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Here he discovered America, is what he did. He was
a brave Italian explorer, and this house, Christopher Columbus, is
a hero and a story. Yes, okay, I've been Tony Soprano.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
The Indigenous people Day concept is so laughably absurd that
I can't believe it's reach.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I just, you know what, I also would have want
to ask, okay, what land did they own? Like, show
me how do you even sort out? You know how
they you know, how they determine who owned what land
among the tribes, what they could keep by force of
arms against other tribes. That's it. There were no deeds,
there was none of this stuff. It was just, Hey,
if you come into my hunting territory, I'm going to
scalp you. We've also had the whole thing too of

(25:31):
suddenly scalping becomes a practice and they try to say,
now that this comes from the European side of things,
interesting never happened anywhere else until they came into the Americas.
And guess what they would take trophies of each other.
And people even ask me, you can go check. There
were among the Native American tribes there was cannibalism practice,
not by all of them, but by some of them.
You will not read that in books until you find

(25:52):
the right books. It is true.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
This also ties in with the entire concept of trying
to redefine American history around slavery, which is what they've
tried to do with The New York Times, for instance.
The idea that slavery only existed in the United States
is really kind of embedded in the left wing attempt
to destroy the history of the United States.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
This country fought its first foreign war in large part,
really entirely to stop the enslavement of white Europeans by
Barbary corsairs off the north from the North African coast.
Essentially that was to the shores of Tripoli. That's why
we actually fought our first So why we outfitted a navy.
We had six frigates, we deployed them and we had

(26:36):
to go fight because and we asked, Actually there was
a one of the you know, the Pasha or the
Amy or whatever he's called himself at the time, was
in London and our emissary, i believe it might have
even been Jefferson at the time, said why are you
doing this to us? Because the Koran says we can
and we like to. That's it, so that we're enslaving
our people.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
One of the huge lessons of world history, if you
actually study it, is every single person listening to us
right now has at some point had ancestors who were
slaves and people who owned slaves. One hundred percent of you, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic.
If you go back far enough, slavery was so endemic

(27:16):
in society that every single one of you has an
ancestor who owned slaves and was steve.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
The word comes from slav actually, that's the root of it,
and it goes back to ancient Roman times. So the
original slaves, if you will, or white people in eastern Europe,
that is where the term originated from. Two thousand years ago.
I talked about the slave trade. By the way, that
slave trade of Barbary corsairs off of North Africa. It
wasn't a short period. It went on for about three

(27:44):
hundred years. They went as far as Ireland and Iceland.
They would go all along the coast of Spain. In fact,
the Spanish in the sixteenth century were terrified. They would
tell their children's stories about Barbarossa the pirate, and how
he would steal children from the coast, because they did.
By the way, that was a thing that would happen.
They would show up anyway. We could talk abou this
all day long. But this idea that it was like, oh,

(28:08):
everything was great here. It was not utopi.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yet they were not noble savages, which was another aspect
of the way that they were described in the Jefferson
Sonian era. No, their lives were brutal and filled with violence,
and in no way were they living in some sort
of dentic paradise.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
You know, when we were right, Davy Crockett and we
have Crockett coffee, Davy Crockett's grandfather was scalped by Indians. Yeah, okay,
this was a reality of life on the frontier. Imagine
that's there. You know, I know, Joe Biden's like, you know,
my grand my granduncle was eaten by cannibal's or something.
They're almost eaten by Cannibal's turned out that wasn't true.
But it's Joe Biden. But this was reality of life
on the frontier. We get a very one sided story.

(28:47):
And yeah, people do really horrible things. I mean, go
back and read about the Thirty Years War in Germany
and Europe. People do very terrible things to each other.
But it's only this one where all of a sudden
we're like, where's it. I'm supposed to make them for
this today. I didn't do anything, You didn't do any
No one listening to this did anything. But we're supposed
to sit around and say, oh, you know, I'm so
worried about it. Anyway, And Kamala Harris plays into that game,

(29:09):
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck and Yes. On Friday,
I did a little Bill Maher action Clay, thank you
for watching and support and so many of you. We
have a caller here, Katie in Northern California, which is
California's Bill Maher territory. Katie, what have you got for us?

Speaker 8 (31:10):
Hey, Mega Dido's I'm a rest baby out here, and Buck,
I owe you an apology. I met Clay this summer
at a Braves game and I gave him a message
to tell you to shut up. And after hearing you
fight your way through that Marebs show, you won me
over and I'm sorry. You do not need to shut up.

(31:30):
You did a great job handling it. I am upset though,
because I had to listen to that whole podcast and
it was brutal.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Okay, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I'm to be honest, I don't remember somebody telling me
to shut tell you to shut up at a Braves game,
But well.

Speaker 8 (31:44):
I was obsessed with your wife, remember.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Oh I do?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Well?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yes, I do remember that you wanted to get a
picture with Laura.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
Yes, yes, well I told you to tell Buck to
shut up.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
No, we heard that part. Yeah, yeah, we get that.
I'm glad. I'm glad I won you over by going
in there and fighting with the libs. Thank you so
much for for calling in. Let's take Mark in North Carolina. Mark,
what have you got for us? Good afternoon, gentlemen. Look
this threat there interview.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
That is a blade that may cut both ways.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
We lose Ah, we're about to hear about the blade.
All right, let's let's get him back. We lost him
for a second. Kind of just I don't I don't
I think I know where he was going with that.
I don't see that because I think Brett is who
like Brett's done this for many years at a very
high level. He'll push appropriately and you know this is
this is the thing. Okay, let's talk with the Bollmar thing.

(32:39):
For example, what happened there was and those you haven't
seen it, check it out if you didn't see the overtime,
by the way, which they put up on YouTube, that
actually got feistier and that was three on one. So
and I also want to say people that say, oh,
that are very anti Bamar. Bill is one of the
only people that has a left of center audience who

(33:00):
will have real people on the right on It is
so rare. So I give Bill a lot of credit,
a lot of respect, and thanks for being willing to
let somebody like me go in there. Now, some of
the other people at that table, their decorum was off
and their manners were lacking. But here here's part of
why that is, Clay. The first thing we talked about

(33:22):
was where the Kamala campaign is. And they have no
good answer for it. They know I got to go
in there after the worst week that Kamala's had and
make the case that this is a particularly weak candidate.
And I said it on the show. I'm like, Trump's
gonna win.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, And you're right, And let's play a couple of
these cuts. By the way, this is buck with You
got into a discussion about toxic masculinity.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
That was the topic, which I thought was so funny
because they say, let's talk about toxic masculinity, and then
I start getting someone in my ear like, why aren't
we talking about women in minorities? I'm like, because if
you asked me about football, play. I'm not going to
start talking about baseball, but that's what they did. Go
ahead telling working class voters who are men in particular,
but white working class mail voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Sorry, bro,

(34:10):
the progress means that no one can speak for you
and no one can be in favor of your interests.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Aren't working at That's also who are going to be
cos why is it just men when they're working class
as well?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
You realize, of course.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
We're speaking about masculinity and why the topics that.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Hand is why is it that the Republican Party is
the party of guys who are you know that that
talk about masculinity in traditional terms, that speak about courage,
that speak about getting after it, that speak about taking risks,
and the Democrats are announce your pronouns. Let's have boys,
pretend they're girls in the locker rooms, let's put tampons
in the ground. This is just reality. You know, they
call them what's his name? All things happen.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
They don't happen everywhere.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Well, but they happen in enough places of the Democrat
Party won't condemn it. Okay, And you know again, I've
got coming from multiple sides here, but just notice the
topics set by the moderator. The host rather is why
are Democrats losing the masculine vote and the male vote
in this country? I start trying to explain it, and

(35:09):
what CNN lady starts to say is aren't women in
minorities working class people too? I'm like, how do you
even this is? I feel so bad for these lips
who're like, yeah, like she's schooled you. How do you
argue with somebody who doesn't know what the question is? Buck?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I wish you had just come back. You're like, okay,
you want to ask me questions speaking, let me ask
you one question. Do you think a man who says
that he's a woman should be able to win a
women's championship? You can say my answer is no. What's
your answer? Yes or no? They won't answer it.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, you know what what she would do with that,
by the way, is if you and you would be
excellent on the show. I'm looking forward to You're gonna
be on there one day. She would turn to you
and say, I'm sorry about all this man's splaining that's
going on here. You're not the host, Like, these are
the games that the sort of see.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Democrats can pull and you can push back on them.
And that there's a front page article actually about how
over the weekend I was reading it buck about how
if you watch football right now, I give the Trump
team tremendous credit. They are running ads all during Monday
night football, all during Sunday night football in the NFL.

(36:19):
And the ad is really simple. It says, Kamala Harris
wants to pay for transgender migrant surgeries as well as criminals.
And I'm hearing from a lot of guys who don't
really pay that much attention to politics. They're watching that
ad and they're saying, can this be real? And they're
only putting it on during football games. And look, I

(36:41):
mean women are probably a thirty five percent of that audience,
but this is a devastating attack that they don't have
a response to gain.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Trump is on track to win the mail vote by
the biggest margin in thirty or forty years right now,
I mean Trump is, and he's also on track for
a Republican I know you're going to talk second hour,
We're going to get into where the black vote is
right now in this election. But the left, the Democrats
are scared. It's not just some right wing talking point,

(37:09):
but just clay the whole tone of the show. It's
cut back this for a second. The timing of these
things really matters. The fact that you can go on
like the fact that I've got to be there and say,
this is Kama's worst week. It was the worst week
of her campaign. The whole thing's falling apart, and I
said this, it was exactly what you said about what
Brett Baher should focus in on this cut too. Kama's

(37:30):
just making it up and changing everything all the time.
When Kamala Harris has tried to address policy, First of all,
there's been a lot of a regime of people in
the media saying, oh, the campaign, she no longer stands
for that. I mean, you've talked about this year.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I watched the show.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
You know it no longer stands for fracking, no longer
stands for she was talking about building a wall a
few weeks ago. That kind of flitted out of the system.
I mean, this is madness. You can count about a
dozen different things that Kamala Harris was very much in
favor for four years ago that she is no longer
in favor for now and when she's asked about it,
which is rare because she doesn't really appear in public
unless it is to go on the view and have

(38:04):
an amen corner, when she is pushed on it. When
she is pushed on it, she says something like, if
I haven't changed my values, I mean, you know, this
isn't like an eighth grade studies like, okay, can I
just yeah? They had to It's everything I've said there
is true. Everyone knows it's true. The audience even started
laughing because it's so obviously true. But this is where
they got it because that the at home left wing audience.

(38:25):
Clay very upset, very upset to hear there's very triggered.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Well, they're coming after us, by the way, because of
your appearance, which we'll talk about in the next segment
and have some fun with. But I this is why
I give Bill maher credit, and I give you credit.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
You have to go in.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
It's basically three on one right, you got two left
wing panelists. Bill, to his credit, I think is a
pretty good moderator. So I'm taking him out of the way.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
He could have totally sandbagged me in a you know,
in a way where I couldn't have said very much.
Event that's what CNN. That's why I stopped doing CNN,
because with the moderator starts, we're talking you, and you
have a panelist and then another one. You know what
I mean, there's nothing you can.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Get that's right. So I thought he was fair the audience, though,
even they recognize how biased the view is. And also
probably that audience recognizes how dumb that show is, because
I don't think Bill Maher's audience is filled with imbeciles.
I think they're just traditional left wingers over time.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
No, it's a coastal elite audience. Honestly, it's a New
York DC LA primarily you know, sanfran a few places audience.
And I think that I wish there were more places
like this where we could have, you know, a robust
exchange of ideas. It also, and this is always the talent,
and we're gonna get as a second all of the
they all come out now, the left wingers, they're also angry.

(39:44):
I said, not, I could be so much more offensive
than that if I wanted to, Like, there are so
many things that I could go after about the Democrats
and whatever. I was really trying to focus on the policy.
And if they thought that there was a point I
made that they they would attack the point everything is,
You're so ugly, Go kill yourself. How could anyone love you? Like?
Just hundreds of emails and messages from all these people

(40:07):
who just all caps, curse words. You know what that is, Clay,
the sweet taste of conservative victory.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Well, they're getting panicked. And also I give credit again
to Bill Maher because they do force people to admit
or reflect on their own cognitive dissonance in a way
on that show, whereas the sonny hostins of the world
are so moronic that they aren't even capable of forcing
their audience to contemplate anything.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I disagree with Bill on some things strenuously, but he
appreciates smart, and he appreciates honest, and he will let
you make your points. Not true of the other panelist
I was sitting there, but that's okay. He will actually
let you have the exchange of ideas. The only place
where I have a really tough time. He really doesn't
like Trump. I mean he doesn't like Trump at a

(40:55):
level where there's there's really no leeway on that issue.
But on other things he's open having a discussion. Jessica
from San Antonio wants to weigh and with an important,
important message. What's up, Jessica, Hi, guys, thank you so
much for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
So I did.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I watched you Buck on Bill Maher.

Speaker 8 (41:14):
I watched Bill mar every week.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Big, big fan, A long time.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I should say I've changed over the years, but I.

Speaker 8 (41:20):
Was so impressed with your appearance. And I didn't know
you were so so good looking.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
I guess I've only seen pictures of you. I'm well, well, well,
I mean, you know, hey, you're happily buried, mad. I'll
take it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'll take waiting over the ladies.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
And in Texas.

Speaker 8 (41:38):
In Texas, Buck, we say we're married, not buried.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
But my husband.

Speaker 8 (41:44):
Really enjoyed your appearance also because you spoke to men
and he was basically, you know, shaking his fits as.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
A TV Yes, yes, you know, well if that makes Jessica.
First of all, your husband has fantastic taste in spouse
and in TV entertainment, so or or conservative commentator, so
thank you to him as well. And I would just say,
what else do you have to know other than when
I'm talking about masculinity. The response to my The response
that I get at that table is why aren't you

(42:10):
talking about women. I actually said this. They kind of
talked over me, which happened a lot. When they said that,
I'm like, this is why Kamala will lose. And it's
true because they can't even go there. They can't even
you're not allowed to talk about working class male voters,
and you're certainly not allowed to talk about white working
class male voters in the swing states. That alone is

(42:32):
a no go zone for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
And I also think for people who haven't been behind
the scenes in television, these are scripted discussions. This wasn't
you trying to grab the discussion and drag it into
let's talk about toxic masculinity. This was a topic that
Bill Tahar set.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
You up for.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
And her immediate response was I don't know why we're
not talking about things other than the topic at hands.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Thank you so much, Jessica, by the way, appreciate that
that's nice. I say this too, you know, when we're
sitting at the table to be told when we're talking
about see here's how it goes. And we should put
some of these clips up also on clay box people
can see. But Bill says, Bill actually agrees with me
because I'm saying, look, you know, there's stuff that men
have it tough with. People are allowed to speak about this,

(43:18):
people are allowed to push the interests of men in
America today. I talk about how more women are graduating
from college. Men are supposed to be able to be
in the you know, in the dating marketplace, earning more.
But that's also not okay because that's patriarchy and there's
these challenges, right And Bill goes, yeah, they do the
more dangerous jobs. And the woman next to me from
CNN goes, oh, yeah, it's so dangerous for you to

(43:40):
be sitting at this table, and like, I don't like
to be that guy, but like, yeah, I've been into
war zones. I actually served after nine eleven in the
CIA because I was willing to take risks to my
safety in order to try to advance. And I'm not
saying that there were women that did that, but overwhelmingly
in the war zone. I mean I was in Baghdad.
What do you think it was fifty to one guy
to girls. Okay, fifty to one. So you know, she

(44:04):
actually made the point better than I ever could have,
which is we're not allowed to talk about men broadly,
and if you do, they'll attack you as a guy,
like why are you being so toxic?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
I also thought she demonstrated why CNN is so irrelevant. Yeah,
because she was really bad and I and I didn't
even know her, Like I asked you afterwards, I was like,
who was that panelist? She has a show on CNN.
You want to talk about how radio show apparently too
CNN is. I had never heard of her, and I
thought she was awful. I thought she was emblematic of

(44:34):
what CNN has.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
And I would say this, and you know, I know
whenever I go out there, I'm representing us Clay for
the Clay and Buck Show, and I'm representing iHeart and
you know, I never once got personal or nasty. Yeah,
and even when people are getting personal and nasty with
me out of bizarrely, but that's just the burden you
carry when you're speaking the truth and you're out maneuvering
the enemy. Sorry to say it, but that's just the

(44:56):
way it goes through.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
And that's why they're so angry at you. And we'll
have some fun with what they Oh, yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Got we got some updates on that in a second.
But you know, I'm in New York right now spending
a little quality time with my family. Few things are
more precious than the memories created with loved ones.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Actually, Clay came over last night. He saw my fam
We got we got photos and stuff up. But you
know what, there's a lot of old videos, Clay. We
didn't have time to show the old videos. We have
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Speaker 1 (46:20):
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Speaker 2 (46:20):
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Speaker 1 (46:47):
They have threatened coffee company employees over email because of
what I said on HBO. It is completely out of hand.
These people are insane. So this is what we talk
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this is a company you are building. This is a
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(47:10):
So now that if you sell ten dollars a coffee,
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also give us good reviews because again after Buck went
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Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, they're just disgusting.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
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Speaker 1 (48:24):
These libs are monsters, little monsters. But you know what
I really said that that triggered them the most, Clay
Trump's gonna win this election. Oh, they hated it and
I backed it up with the facts. Boom Buck.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yesterday, had a great dinner with your mom and dad.
Thank you, your nephew three year old. Fun.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Uh, a lot of energy, A lot of energy.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Minute I walked in and wanted to wrestle big WWE fan.
It was a lot of fun hanging out yesterday. Went
to CBS in your old neighborhood, New York Times Square.
Everything is under lock and key. I just can't believe
that this is how people in cities live now that
you go to a drug store to just buy like toothpaste, yep,

(49:08):
and you have to ask somebody to get it out
of the container for you.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
You had to follow me around the store. I had
to get a toothbrush, toothpaste on a couple of things
that I had left behind, and like five different things
that he had to walk with me to each section
of the store to open the glass case.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I bought the Sunday New York Times and the Sunday
New York Post, and I got back home after dinner
and I sat down, I'm like, okay, I want to read.
And you know, Kamala is in trouble when there is
a front page story about her struggles with black voters.
And this is a huge deal that is not going

(49:46):
away black voters on the presidential candidates we are talking
about right now, Trump getting the largest measure of support
for black voters of any Republican since nineteen sixty that
is Nixon versus Kennedy in the pre civil rights era.

(50:08):
Was the last time that a Republican candidate is poised
to get this much of the vote buck for men. Remember,
I've got to bet we talked about for a while
that I thought that black men would go for Trump
over Biden back in the day. But I still think
it's going to happen for Kamala too, that twenty five

(50:29):
percent of black men would be voting for Trump. According
to the New York Times own front page story yesterday,
black men seventy percent Kamala, twenty percent Trump, ten percent
undecided don't know. So that number is definitely in play
for black women up to twelve percent. And this is

(50:52):
a disaster relative to what they supported Joe Biden by
because it was ninety ten basically, and right now Trump
is cutting into that in a big way. And you know,
this is a problem for Kamala's campaign when you are
focused on black mail support three weeks before the election,

(51:12):
such that you have Barack Obama out lecturing people and saying, hey,
I think it's misogyny. I think it's sexism for black
men not to vote for Kamala. And now you got
James Clyburn, who was the South Carolina Democrat who basically
said Biden's the guy, He's going to be the nominee
and we're going to ride him to victory coming out

(51:33):
and saying, you know what, I think Kamala has issues
with black men. This is devastating to her campaign. Let's
play that cut.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yes, I am concerned about black men's staying home or
voted for Trump black men, like everybody else, I want
to know exactly what I can expect from Harris administration.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Okay, that's Clyburn. We also have I believe the audio
of Harry who is the data guru at what NBC, right,
I believe MSNBC, CNN. I can't remember all these guys work.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Harry Anton CNN, Harry.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Inton at CNN saying again, this is on CNN what
I just told you that Trump is trending towards the
most black support of any Republican since nineteen sixty. Here
is that clip?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Oh, we don't have it yet. Sorry, I thought we had.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
It on cut thirty three. Maybe it's not up yet.
But this is something that buck is widely discussed right now,
not only among everybody out there in sort of the
James Clyburn Barack Obama era. But the numbers across the
board are overwhelmingly showing Kamala is struggling with black vote.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
So here's here's a question. Again. I'm not trying to
be like Brett Baar doesn't need art and doesn't need
my help. He can hit us. But if I were
to be in the Brett chair on this issue of
the of the black vote and particularly the man black
vote in America. I would just say, what has the
Biden administration delivered for black voters? And what would you

(53:11):
deliver for black voters Kamala Harris. Now I know the
second question. She would actually answer that right. She would say,
you know, an opportunity economy or you know whatever. She'd
have some canned phrase that sounds good to sounds good
to focus groups, whatever. But the first part of that
is where I think she actually has no real answer.
And part of what the Democrats don't want to admit,

(53:35):
and you hear more and more of this is Black Americans,
Latino Americans, well, all Americans, but black and Latino Americans
specifically recognize that there has been an enormous move toward
giving resources, time, and attention to migrants from the Democrat Party.

(53:57):
And I know that they would say, oh, but we
can can chew gum. At the same time, it's not
as zure sum game. Actually, when you let ten million
people into the country, all of whom need housing and
are getting it, All of whom need government resources, food,
medical care, et cetera, and are getting it. People who
are Americans have an understandable concern and even frustration with

(54:21):
Hold on a second, what is being done for me.
I'm showing up to my legal minimum wage job trying
to get ahead. I'm trying to get to a safer
neighborhood than the one I currently live in, and migrants
are staying in four star hotels. By the way, I
brought this up on mar the table doesn't like this one.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
But you know, especially like young black guys who are
looking to have, you know, the same upward economic mobility
as every other American and want to build security for
themselves and want to have good lots.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
They're looking around there like the god. Think of the
amount of time the Democrat Party is focused on non
Americans versus Black Americans under Joe Biden on you know,
the undocumented as they call them.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
It's also the case. And this is why I thought
the discussion you guys had on Bill Maher about toxic
masculinity was so interesting. Initially, they were able to define
masculinity as particularly toxic because it was white male based,
but they have gone so over the top right. Initially,
the identity politics was O white men are evil. That
was kind of the Brett Kavanaugh perspective was, Oh, it's

(55:26):
not only that he's accused of this, it's that all
these white men are evil. And then what happened? You
had the Bill Cosby's, You've got the Sean Combs, the R. Kelly's,
a lot of guys who were also in positions of prominence.
It wasn't just Less Moonvez and the universe out there
of white men in power, Donald Trump, who they tried

(55:47):
to tie it into. It's then grown into a larger
attack on men in general, and a lot of black men,
Hispanic men, Asian men are looking around like, I don't
think men are.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
The problems again on the merits, And first of all,
I did get a fair amount of critic from some
people saying why didn't you because because of Bill Maher,
I was actually shocked. He said, you know, it wasn't
uh the he said that the Kamala husband what's his name,
Doug Elmhoff accusations aren't credible like the Kavanaugh ones were.
Everyone who knows me knows I was all in from

(56:19):
day one on this Kavanaugh thing as a hatchet job.
But I had to talk about the m Hoff thing
because that was and I didn't have the time to
get back to the Kavanaugh thing because I started talking
over me. You know, I can't just silence their mics
and shut everyone else down, So trust me, I want
If I had more time, I would have gone back
to the Kavanaugh thing. But on the merits of the
debate over it's not just masculinity and some it's why

(56:42):
are masculine men fleeing the Democrat Party? And all the
data shows it, and it shows it for black men,
Latino men, white men, Asian men. Why is it that
guys who think of themselves as guys and think the
genders are different, Well, it's because the Democrat Party doesn't
think that they are different. It's because the Democrat Party
doesn't accept that there are differences between men and women.

(57:02):
You notice, Clay, I mean, I said this is the problem.
They say, well, what is masculinity? They try to trap
you in this, and I started to saying, you know,
you know, courage, risk taking, you know, control the aggression,
and then it's all, what about women? They can do
that too, So there is no such thing as masculinity.
Then this is, or rather the only masculinity is, like,
you know, beating your wife and being an abuser and

(57:23):
being a sexual harasser, which is man hatred, which the
Democrat Party has embraced.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Which is why I think Trump is really making a
lot of ground up on this. Men pretending to be
women winning championships. I think it's something that cuts through
for men in particular, who tend to overwhelmingly be sports fans.
Let me hit you with a couple of things here. One,
you asked Brett Behar. For those of you who didn't hear,

(57:49):
Brett Behar is doing an interview on Wednesday. I think buck,
if Brett Behar said Kamala, you said hashtag believe all women.
To build on your Brett Kavanaugh question, why should you
not believe the woman who accused your husband of smacking
her in the face. I don't know that he'll be
willing to do it, but hashtag believe all women.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
That doesn't say, and this is what I said. I
mean the standard when they attacked Kavanaugh was a woman
makes an accusation. You start from me it's true, and
then maybe you can try to disprove it. I also
say it's not hard to find out who they were
talking about here. The media could find this person. The
media could ask her, and anyone who says, oh, well,
you know the the you know, the first husband whatever,

(58:31):
first husband, second husband. I can't keep all these first gentleman,
thank you, the first gentleman, the second gentleman. Anyone who says, oh,
that doesn't really matter. No, No, they they picked this fight,
so to speak. They put Tim Walls out there, who,
by the way, doesn't know how to load a shotgun.
But you know, I got a shotgun. I'm just one
of those gun totin Democrats. Sure you are, Timmy, and

(58:53):
and they, you know, Kamala with her glock and the
whole thing. They realize they have a huge deficit here,
and they put Doug M Hall forward and explicitly said
this is like the new kind of masculinity you want,
and it's not working. And when I try to explain
to them, I'm actually doing the Democrats a service play.
I was trying to explain them in general mask in terms,
and all I got from them is like, oh, well,
you don't look like Schwarzenegger, So what are you talking

(59:15):
about it? These people are their children. Democrats are children
on this issue.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
We got the audio now that I wanted to play
of CNN election data analyst Harry Inton talking about how
bad Kamala Harris is doing with black men and women,
and how much better Trump is doing to the extent
that he is poised to do the best in it's
almost hard to do this math, Buck, sixty four years

(59:41):
among black voters.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Listen, this is the Democratic margin among black men under
the age of forty five and presidential elections.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
You'll go back to November of twenty twelve. What do
you see.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
You see Obama by eighty one. Clinton only won them
by sixty three. Then we're all the way down a
Biden last time around by fifty three.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Tremendous drop already.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
And then you take a look at the average of
the most recent polls and Kamala Harris is up by
only forty one points. That is about half the margin
that Obama won them by back in November of twenty twelve.
Ho about black men overall, it's part of the same picture.
You know, we're looking once again. If younger black men
looks like the worst Democratic performance since nineteen hundred and sixties,

(01:00:22):
since JFK versus Richard Nixon, it's the same thing among
black men overall.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I mean, Buck, that is a site. She can't win
if these numbers on black voters are accurate. Kamala Harris's
math doesn't add up. She has to be ninety ten
or she's going to lose. And by the way, if
you question whether these numbers are real, she's panicked and
pursuing black mail voters in particular right now doing Charlottage

(01:00:48):
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to her campaign. And when you're trying to shore up
what has typically been the Democrat base twenty two days
before the you're in trouble.

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