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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
We are just a few days away from election day.
We have all of the latest racked and stacked for you,
the final arguments from the campaigns, the polling, which I'll
tell you is now it's turning into a little bit
(00:21):
too much of too close to call everywhere with the
early voting that's coming in. A lot of it's tied,
it's tied. Well, we'll try to make sense of some
of that today. I'm down here in Savannah, Georgia for
my mom's birthday. Happy birthday, Mom, So we're hanging out here.
Clay's out in Tennessee. We've got Senator Katie Britt joining
(00:42):
hopefully soon to be Senator Dave McCormick running that critical
pennsylvani race. Clay did an interview with him that we
wanted to air for you today, so that'll be just
a little later on the program. And Justin, who is
formerly Tucker Carlson's executive producer, now runs documentaries and special
projects for the Tucker Carlson Network and he is going
(01:07):
to be with us too, so we will get into
all of that the big news story today. If you
if I can take take us in this direction for
a minute other than the usual.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Do you hear what Trump said?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Everyone's all supposed to freak out. Trump said something. Liz
Cheney is pretending like Trump wanted violence against me. You know,
I'm noticing a pattern here. Our friend Ryan Gerduski was
on CNN and they tried to claim the guy at
the table tried to claim, are you saying, are you
saying that I should offer violence? And it's like, no,
he's not saying that, you know. And then now we
(01:44):
have somebody else coming along here Liz Cheney, and Liz
Cheney is saying, in response to Trump talking to her
about the foreign wars issue, we're speaking about the Cheney
family's history of ending young men off to unfortunately fight
in wars and the terrible things that happened there. And
(02:06):
they try to act like he's calling for violence against her.
So we'll get into all this, But Clay, I thought
we could start just because it goes to where things
currently are with the economy and how they're trying to
tell us things are great with the economy. Turns out
not so much. We have the latest jobs numbers, and
this is certainly not going to help the Harris case here.
(02:29):
They're certainly not going to help them going forward. Here's
c NBC's Rick Santelli telling you that in October an
anemic twelve thousand jobs added. Here's what he had to say,
play one the.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Big jobs Jobs, Jobs report, and the prephacy came true.
Jobs light twelve thousand, twelve thousand, and non farm payroll
that is the lightest going back to December of.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Twenty twenty, Clay there were four casting one hundred and
six thousand. And let's just keep in mind the August
report has already been revised down eighty one thousand, the
September report has already been revised down thirty one thousand.
This is the worst jobs market if you were to
(03:17):
try to look at just on a numbers basis, this
is the worst month of reports we've seen since well,
certainly the end of twenty twenty and into twenty twenty one,
which tells.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You it's an economy, border crime election, and the economy,
as many of you know, is not good and the
cost of goods overwhelmingly is out of control, whether it's
buying a home, whether it's buying your groceries. The border
is an unmitigated disaster. More details have come out, Buck,
I mean, there's an example of this in every state
(03:50):
in America now. But the Jewish man walking in Chicago
who was killed by a by an illegal immigrant that
should have never been in this country. Lake and Riley
in the Athens, Georgia area. Who's dead? I mean, Joscelyn Nungaryy.
There's so many different names out there. Every single state
in America there's someone who's dead because Kamala Harris and
(04:13):
Joe Biden left the border open, and then the border
ties in very much with crime, which they tried to
lie to you about, and the reality is crime is
up and they had to revise the statistics and they suddenly, oh,
well yeah, when we plug in this, the violent crime
is up and twenty twenty two, and we thought it
was down in twenty twenty three, and all these different aspects.
(04:36):
Trust what you see, not what you are often told,
and economy, border crime. The reason why Trump's gonna win,
I believe, Buck, is those three issues are all in
his favor. As we sit here four days out, listen
to me carefully. I'm getting on a plane, Buck, as
soon as we finish this show, and I'm flying to
Pennsylvania and am campaigning for Dave McCormick and Donald Trump
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in Pennsylvania. Trump is going to have to win one
of I hope he wins all three, but at least
one of Pennsylvania, Michigan or Wisconsin. I think Kamala is
going to have to win all three. So listen to
me carefully. We got monster audiences in those three states.
Get out and vote. Get out and vote. Grab people
in your friends and family group who might otherwise not go,
(05:19):
Get him in the car, take him to the local
polling place, Get out and vote. This is going to
be a tight election. Kamala has got one path buck.
I think it's to win all three of what I
call the Big ten states. If Trump can win one,
certainly we want him to win all three. He's going
to be president. It's going to be close. Get out
and vote. I'm putting my voice to the extent that
(05:40):
I can on the ground in Pennsylvania to help out
the last possible moment as best I can. We're going
to be at the Ohio State penn State game. Lot
forty one. If you're going to be at that game,
Ohio State fans will welcome you, penn State fans certainly
huge college football game. It's going to come down to
a few thousand votes. Buck. I think everybody go into
(06:00):
a football game this weekend. The election is going to
be decided in those three states. I really think by
a crowd that's smaller than the one that's going to
be in a football stadium in a country of three
hundred and forty million, whatever the heck we are, one
football stadium likely will decide the outcome of the election
in the big ten states. That's how tight it's going
to be. If you don't think your vote matters, this
(06:22):
is going to be the ultimate test of that. It
matters more than you can possibly imagine.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think as if it could be any higher. The
stakes in Pennsylvania are such that Donald Trump is of
the Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan axis. Donald Trump is most likely
I think to win Pennsylvania right now based on some
of the early vote data. And now this can change,
(06:48):
right the early voting is going on for days here.
But he's most likely to win Pennsylvania. So that's the
good news. But he has to win Pennsylvania is the
other side of this too. I think that we have
seen too many forecasters crunching the numbers, and what they
come away with is that you win Pennsylvania, your chance
of winning the election for Kamala and for Trump is
(07:09):
basically eighty nine percent. It's a little more certain for
Trump than it is for Kamala. But if you lose Pennsylvania,
you basically can't really get it done unless you're going
to run the table and a whole lot of other things.
So everyone's saying it's super close right now. I still
have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump and in
this campaign, and to that end, I just wanted to
want to play this, Clay. This is an ad I mean,
(07:32):
you know, we can sit here and we do and
point out the deficiencies and the challenges of the Kamala
Harris campaign. Up to this point. It has been a
spectacularly I would argue, a spectacularly weak campaign, and yet
it is very close, and I think that says a
lot of troubling things about the electorate in this country.
(07:54):
But you also have some really amazing moments.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I was with my family last night, Clay, all of
us gathered here together in Savannah, and we were sitting
around to dinner, made sure we could talk freely about politics.
A lot of a lot of Harris Wall's signs here.
I have a little upsetting. I gotta tell you, I
love this town. The second I leave city limits, it's
Trump Country. The second you're in Savannah proper, all of
(08:21):
a sudden, they're like handing out copies of the Communist
Manifesto with the Macha lattes here. I don't know what's
going on. Well I do know what's going on, but
you wouldn't expect it. But we were talking about how
the fact that the you you would have to say,
the most iconic moment I think of the entire campaign
so far for Trump was him being shot and then
(08:44):
standing up and yelling fight.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I think that I have some you know, I've
had some guts at different points in my life. I
don't I'm not going to say that I think I
do that. I'd be you know, ducking and trying to
get behind cover. You know, what Trump did was incredible. Okay,
what he did was just amazing. Even some people who
hated Trump were willing to admit in the twenty four
hours afterwards, that is the most badass thing that they
had ever seen in politics, because it is It just
(09:08):
goes to the fighting spirit that this man has. It
goes to the fact that he is walking with destiny
and this is about more than just you know, settling
some score in the past politically or anything like that.
Here is the final ad, Clay. I know I think
you shared this from your Twitter account. We had the
team pull it. I want everyone to listen to this.
I mean the visuals are great too, but the audio
(09:30):
this is cut forward. The audio tells the story.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Think about all they've done to Donald Trump. First it
was hoaxes, witch hunts, and impeachments. Then it was FBI raids,
courtrooms and mop shots. Finally it was bullets in a
Pennsylvania field. And after all that, this man stood up
(09:58):
with blood draining down his face, pumped his fists in
the air and told us to fight.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
America's future will be bigger, better, bolder, brighter, happier, stronger, freer,
greater and more united than ever before.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
And we will make America great again.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
We know what they think of us.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
The only garbage I see Floa down there as his supporters.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
So if Donald Trump can get through all of that,
we can get out to a vote.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
All the ad says a lot. Man, it's quite an ad.
And now, if you were to just say, even from
their perspective, what's the most iconic moment of the Kamalaak campaign,
what is the Maybe they would argue that the debate
where it was three on one or something. I think
that's probably what they would go with. But we watched it, Clay,
we analyze it. I don't really remember anything from that
(11:01):
to bit. I remember Trump saying they're eating the dogs.
That's about all I remember.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I think if you went with the three most iconic
home First of all, the Trump response to the assassination
attempt is and we said it the day after it happened,
it is to me anyone who ever attacked Trump for
not believing what he stands for is finished after the
way he responded there. And so I think it's the
(11:28):
most icons maybe the most iconic moment in any of
our lives from presidential candidate. But then you also layer
in and these are obviously much less serious, but the
McDonald's forye cook thing from the drive through window and
then the garbage truck interview, as well as wearing the
safety vest on the stage, Buck. Last night, I was
(11:50):
out trick or treating with my ten year old people
in my neighborhood. So many of them were dressed up
in garbage bags, were dressed up in reflective jackets with
Maga hats. So many of you have shared your photos
with me. I asked, hey, share your Trump inspired Halloween costumes.
I think the gift from Biden to the Trump team
(12:14):
of calling all supporters garbage has motivated so many people
out there to get out and vote and make sure
they're even more enthusiastic than they were before. And to me,
I just I am ready. I'm going to be on
the ground in Pennsylvania fighting as hard as I can.
But I am so ready, Buck, for Election Day to
be here and for these results to come pouring in
(12:37):
and for Donald Trump to win and complete the greatest
political comeback of all time. But it's on all of
us to make it happen. Trump is done. I think
it's fair to say everything that he possibly could to win.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I do think that there is a quiet confidence that
Trump voters can all have Trump supporters, all across the
country can have that, come what may. Their guy has
run a hell of a campaign. He has made the case.
He has stood strong, he has had powerful moments, He's
(13:10):
had a lot of improvements made over the voting machinery
of twenty twenty. And it's really on us as a
nation now. I mean, if the choice is made for
Kamala Harris, I think that will be a tragedy for
the country will rebound. We'll do what we can, we
continue in the fight. But I could not look back
(13:32):
at this campaign. It's a little bit like how I
felt after JD Vance's debate, where yeah, nothing is perfect,
but it's so good that what's the point of criticizing it.
I think Trump's campaign has been pretty close to that.
I don't have any I don't have any criticisms of
the campaign that are really worth airing out because I
think he's run a great campaign. I think he's been
on message. I think he's been disciplined. And you know,
(13:56):
if America, I know, we got a lot of everyone's like, well,
I'm voting for Trump, yeah, but if America for some
reason doesn't end up with him as the president, well
that's on America.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, I agree, and we're gonna do everything we can.
I just mentioned I'm going to be at lot forty
one with Dave McCormick. We'll talk to him at the
top of the third hour of the program. We already
taped that with him, Senate candidate in Pennsylvania. Buck last
night Lot forty one, by the way, at the Ohio
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or wherever you get your podcasts. The battleground state of
Pennsylvania is so incredibly important, and the guy that you
need to make sure that you are the next Senator
from Pennsylvania is Dave McCormick. I am going to hop
a flight as soon as we are done with the
radio show today, fly to State College, PA. I'm going
to be with this man tomorrow helping to rally voters
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and it's a fun place to be doing it too.
With the Ohio State penn State game going on, He
joins us now the next senator we hope from Pennsylvania.
If you guys, get out and vote. Dave McCormick, how
is it going? What are you seeing on the ground.
It seems like Pennsylvania. Whoever wins Pennsylvania for the presidency
is going to be the president, and may well be
(16:41):
the case that whoever wins the Senate race is going
to control the Senate. Pennsylvanians have a lot in their hands.
What are you seeing out there, Dave.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Hey Clay, thanks so much for having me. Can't wait
to hang out with you tonight and tomorrow. It's going
to be an incredible game. Penn State, Ohio State is
going to be It's going to be epic and you know,
and great enthusiasm on the ground. Honestly, I think what
you're seeing is this, the polls have closed dramatically, and
at the top of the ticket. I think the more
people see of Kamala Harris, the more energy you see.
(17:12):
But behind President Trump and it's really an election that's
about strength versus weakness, and the common sense policies of
President Trump versus this radical liberal agenda van fracking, you know,
legalize the legal immigration, defund the police, mandatory buybacks of
your guns. So I think that's why you see President
Trump gaining steam. And in my case, it's a race
(17:35):
between change that I represent and the status quo from
Bob Casey's a career politician, thirty years in elected office,
votes ninety eight point six percent of time with Biden Harris,
and then voted for all these crazy policies, sanctuary cities,
defunding the police, boys competing women's sports. He's just out
of touch with Pennsylvania. And that's why I think you've
(17:57):
seen the polls close. I think all the polling suggests
that President Trump is tied or gaining some momentum and
maybe a bit in the lead. And the same with me,
and I think we're going to have a great day
on November since. But we've got to get people. For
your listeners, we've got to get every single voter out there.
Tell your friends you know ten people, ten people, ten people,
(18:20):
Get those people on the fence. This election really is
the most important one of our lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You mentioned something that I think is important. Pennsylvania is
where Leah Thomas, the University of Pennsylvania swimmer, what came
from and swim against Riley Gaines. This is a man
who swam on the University of Pennsylvania swim team, then
flipped and decided to swim as a woman on the
University of Pennsylvania women's team one in the NCAA Championship.
(18:47):
Now we employ Riley Gaines at out Kicks. She's done
a phenomenal job. University of Kentucky swimmer who just said
this is wrong. I'm not going to stand for this.
She's been all over the place. Your opponent, Senator Bob
Casey and Pennsylvan said he supported this. I mean by itself,
that to me feels disqualifying to be representing the state
of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
It really is. It just shows you how extreme the
Democratic Party has become. And Bob Casey, listen, he you know,
I don't know what he was like eighteen years ago,
but he went to the Senate saying he was going
to change Washington, and Washington changed Bob Casey, and he's
now completely out of step with Pennsylvania. And I have
campaigned with Paula Scanlon who was a teammate of Leah
Thomas and and so had to be in the locker room.
(19:31):
You know, was deppressed by University of Pennsylvania. She's this
great athlete.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I know her well, She's done fabulous work. She is
not sorry to cut you off. But for people who
don't know her, she was having to be a teammate
in the locker room with a man.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
It's just hard to imagine. And you know, when I
sat down with her and talked about this, it was
even though I had read about it, it was so
far beyond what was, you know, imaginable, And and this
just shows you how crazy an extreme the Democratic Party
has become. And you know, listen, there's so many issues
to talk about, directless spending that's led to inflation, but
(20:11):
the wide open border is probably the thing that I
hear the most about these days. In the following sense,
we got a huge fentanyl crisis across our country and
in Pennsylvania. Clay four thousand Pennsylvanias. Last year, I sat
down with a bunch of fentanyl families with my wife.
We talked about the kid, the kids, the beautiful children
(20:33):
they lost. It's like somebody reached down your throat and
pulled your heart out when you hear these stories, and
most of them didn't know they were taking fentanyl. And
this is the cartels. Coming across the wide open border
takes twenty four forty eight seventy two hours, and that
fentanyl through their distribution network is in Pennsylvania, and it's
ravaging our communities. We lost one hundred and sixteen thousand
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people last year in America, which is twice the number
one we lost in Vietnam and eight years we had
two Vietnams last year, And and Bob Casey has done nothing.
He's voted against the border wall, He's voted against four
sanctuarous cities, voted against funding for the border patrol. This
is the kind of thing where you need strong leadership.
And you know, if I'm in the Senate on day one,
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I'll support President Trump and the law and securing the border,
but I'll also support designating the cartels is a terrorist
organization and using our military very thoughtfully, strategically, our drones,
our special operations to take out these manufacturing facilities from
the cartels, the distribution networks. This is a war that
(21:41):
is ravaging our children and Bob Casey has done nothing
about it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
You have six daughters. Yesterday was Halloween. I'm curious. I
won't ask for specific names, but you probably had to
meet a few boyfriends over the years. What does it
like to have six daughters, to be a and being joy?
I can't even imagine. I've got three boys. I can't
imagine what six daughters is like.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Man, we feel blessed. We've got a blended family. And
so they're twenty four to eighteen. And I say to people, listen,
when you've had sixteenage daughters at one time, politics it
seems easy. You know, politics easy compared to six teenage daughters.
And they are a joy for us, and we're so
proud of them. And they're proud of their dad for
(22:27):
running or their stepdad for running, and have been very supportive.
But you see that these political campaigns are tough on families,
and you know, you really got to put yourself in
the arena. And my wife, Dina has been an incredible
partner and supporter in this. But you only do it
because you think the country is going in the wrong direction.
(22:50):
You think you can make a difference. So you know,
you and I have talked about West Point, where I
learned the notion of duty on our country. And that
is why I'm running because I think are our amazing,
exceptional nations at risk. I think we're gonna wake up
and not recognize the country we have for for those
six daughters, for your for your three boys, unless we
(23:11):
change direction. And that's uh, that's why we need strong, strong,
common sense leadership in the Senate and the White House.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Have you seen You may not have because you've got
a billion things going on. You went to West Point.
They are playing, I believe against Air Force this weekend.
They have skull crossbone helmets this weekend. Army does that
is how badass are those.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
It's pretty bad. It's pretty badass. Listen, this will be
a huge game. I mean, I'm so proud of the
Army team. They're they're great this year. Navy's done great
this year. To the Army Navy game is going to
be incredible. And uh, you know, we have a great tradition.
You talked about those six daughters, but we have this
great tradition. The game's usually in Philadelphia's they've lost that
for the last couple of years, but we take them
to Philadelphia every year for the Army Navy game, and
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I insist Clay getting them up early on Saturday morning,
and we do the Rocky Run, which they're shine. We
do the Rocky Ride. We end at the Art Museum
where you run the steps, and I make them sing
the Rocky song and there's lots of complaining, but they're
always happy they did it. And and then we take
into that game, and you know, I've done. I've gone
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that game, you know, I don't know thirty times, probably
twenty five thirty times. And it never stops, ever from
me getting a little misty at the end when both
teams stand at attention to sing the others alma mater
the winning teams alma mater is sent is sung last.
And you know, Dean always says the great thing about
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that game, no matter who wins, ar Mere Navy, America
always wins because it's such an incredible rivalry of brothers
in arms who are committed to defending our country and
one another. Despite a hell of a rivalry between the two.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
No doubt, I fortunate enough to go to those games
several times now. And if you are a sports fan
or just an American who appreciates American history. It is
something that should one hundred percent be on the bucket list.
Speaking of the bucket list, a lot of people would
like to be going to the game that you and
I are going to be going to tomorrow, Ohio State,
Penn State. We're going to be tailgating. It's the biggest,
(25:21):
best game of the day. Fox is big. Noon is
going to be there. College Game Day is going to
be there. Kicks off at noon Eastern from Happy Valley.
For people who want to see where we are going
to be tailgating all those things, what can you tell them?
I know we're going to be out bright and early
several hours because again tailgate is at noon. I mean
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the kickoff is at noon eastern, so it's an early case.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
You're beginning at nine. We're in LOP forty one. You're
going to see me because my big McCormick campaign bus
is there and it's red, white and blue and camouflage.
It's got an eight foot picture of my face on it,
which which my wife said to me, you got to
have a hell of an ego to have an eight
foot pictures. So we're excited about it. It's going to
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be a great turnout. We're gonna have I'm sure many
hundreds of students and play the thing I'm hearing. You know,
I don't know if you feel the same way when
you go to campuses, but I feel, you know, campuses
have traditionally leaned much more democrat for young folks, and man,
I feel a lot of support around young people. I've
done a number of college events, number of sporting events.
(26:28):
I feel a lot of young people that are deeply
worried about their future, who want to save the country
and have the kind of American opportunity that you and
I have had. And and I'm seeing a lot of
energy on campuses. So we'll see that tomorrow morning. And
then we're going to see an epic game, and you know,
let's go go penn State. Go line.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, I like Penn State to win and cover by
the way for the gamblers out there a lot forty one.
I will be with him, the next Senator from the
great state of Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick. If you are going
to be at that game, well even welcome Ohio State
fans to come by and say hi, yes as well.
It should be an awesome scene. Lot forty one Again,
(27:09):
if you're going to be at that game. Come by
and see the next senator from Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick and
me as we get ready for the biggest and best
game of the weekend taking place in State College, PA. Dave,
appreciate it. I'll see you later tonight. Yeah, and I'm
excited to help out whatever bit i can.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Just for your listeners, I'm at Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com
and I'm fired up to have you come visit. Thanks
for doing that, man, and see you tonight.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Can't wait. We'll see you tonight, Dave MCCORMICKPA dot com.
You just heard it. Get out and vote everybody in Pennsylvania.
You can choose the president and who's going to control
the Senate. Incredible opportunity in your hands. I'll be with
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Speaker 2 (29:02):
Walking Again, Clay T'reravis, Buck Sexton Show Friday. Hope all
of you are having a fantastic post Halloween recovery hanging
out with us. Four days until the election, and we're
joined now by Senator Katie Britt of Alabama. We got
a lot to get into with her. But Senator Britt,
last time I saw you, you were with Donald Trump
at the Georgia Alabama game. Based on my knowledge of you,
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you are both a strong and intelligent woman. But Mark
Cuban claims that no strong intelligent women are ever seen
with Trump. What did you think when you heard those comments?
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Look, I thought that it was a desperate attempt to
convince women not to vote for President Trump. And we
know President Trump is fighting for all Americans, and honestly,
as a woman, I'm offended. I am really offended. You
think about the different people that President Trump has had
around him. You think about how many of those were women,
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how many of those were working women that he sought
their counsel, their advice, He wanted their thoughts on policy
positions and how to move forward. I've experienced that myself
in my short term in the United States Senate. When
it came to talking about the issue of IVS. President
Trump not only immediately took my call, but listen to
what I had to say, and then he acted. And
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so the fact that Mark Cuban would run his mouth
yet again and do so in such a disparaging way
to so many women across America. I'm just once again offended.
And it's so interesting to me, Clay. Here you have
the party that's supposed to be this party of unity
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and party of diversity, so they say, and yet they
continue to say, if you do not think just like me,
not only are you not welcome, but we're going to
make sure to be disparaging to you as well. And
at the end of the day, women are smarter than this.
They are smarter than to play into the hand of
someone like Mark Cuban, because we know that the issues
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in front of us, that of a secure border, out
of safe streets, out of strong families, and a strong defense,
those are things that matter to our families. Those are
things that matter to our opportunity to achieve the American dream,
and those are things that matter to preserving it for
our children. And so I think this is going to
backfire in a big way, and for me personally, the
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moment I heard it, just utterly offended and thought it
was despicable.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I know you probably don't know him, Senator Britt, but
Mark Cuban, a lot of us reckon remember him from
the earlier days of Shark Tank.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Do you think that some of these surrogates for Kamala
that are going around make it a particular fool of themselves.
The brainwashing just sets in after a period of time,
and they think that Donald Trump really is going to
end the country, even though he didn't. The first four
years actually worked out really well. But how do you
engauge that, Like, what are some of these individuals that
are celebrities think they're going to accomplish by doing this
(32:02):
other than probably get made fun of a lot on
X like Mark Cuban, who has now had to deal
with a front cover New York Post article on him.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, thank goodness. And look, there should be more coverage
of these stars that are stepping out and disparaging every
day Americans. Look, we're all entitled to our opinion. That's
the beauty of this nation. And the interesting thing is is,
obviously Donald Trump is going to be the one to
fight to allow you to have that opinion, even if
it's different than his. And if you think about what
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these stars are doing, they're conforming to peer pressure. They
have been literally in an echo chamber.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
They live.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Pretty incredible lives, and instead of taking a step back
and saying, what is the appeal of an everyday American
to vote for Donald Trump? Why is it that they
believe he would run the country back, they immediately looked
down their nose and say things that are disparaging and
truly despicable in so many ways about people who they're
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not even trying to understand where they are in life
and what they're doing. And if you look at it, guys,
look at what it was under Donald Trump. We had
the most secure border in decades. If you look at
the fact of what's happening overseas right now, I mean,
whether it is Buten's invasion of Ukraine, whether it is
what is happening in Middle in the Middle East with
our greatest ally, Israel, whether it is China coming over
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to our shore in San Francisco and meeting with Joe
Biden then saying it's not an if but a when
I take Taiwan. There is no doubt we are weaker
and more vulnerable with Biden Harris in office. And if
you look back to President Trump, there were no new
wars started under President Trump. And then also too, we
know that our dollar went further. I mean, President Trump
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thought about how do we make sure that Americans can
achieve that American dream, whether it's through energy and dependence
and dominance, whether it's through you know, making sure that
they are good paying jobs for all Americans. You know,
those are things he's fighting for. And so, you know,
you look at what the liberals continue to do. You know,
rewind back to when Hillary Clinton called us deplorables, rewind
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just a week within the last week, when Joe Biden
called us garbage, and now you have Mark Cuban calling
us weak and dumb.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
And instead of.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Trying to understand why people would want Donald Trump in office,
which is pretty obvious to me, they want to create
peer pressure and dynamics where you're not cool unless you're
with them. And I think at the end of the day,
the American people know better. They know they want stable
prices and a secure border and safe streets and a
strong defense, and they know that Donald Trump will deliver that.
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And I think when people ask themselves the question are
you better off now than you were four years ago,
there is no one that can say yes. And at
the end of the day, when people go into the
ballot box, It is not the words, the disparaging words
of Mark Q then that will have an effect on them.
It is what is possible for them, and what is
possible for the country, and what is possible for the
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Fusprus or children with Donald Trump in charge.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
We're talking to Senator Katie Britt. Katie, I know you've
been on the road with Ted Cruz recently going through Texas.
I'm going to be at the Ohio State penn State
game tomorrow with Dave McCormick. He's going to be on
with us in the third hour in a bit. But
whether it's Mike Rodgers in Michigan, Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania,
Eric Hovdy in Wisconsin, Carrie Lake Arizona, Sam Brown and Nevada,
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Tim Sheeehey and Montana. We've got Bernie Marino in Ohio.
I hope I'm not missing anybody. Certainly West Virginia is
gonna flip with Jim Justice. What are you seeing, How
did it look with the cruise campaign and what would
it mean to take back control of the United States Senate.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Look, we have all got to make sure that we
are paying attention to these races. If you are out
there and you can. You can send a dollar, you
can send five dollars, anything like that. All of these
candidates you just named need your help. It is it
is critically important that we take back the Senate, and
then we want to do so. And obviously the more
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than the better position we are to do good things.
And when it comes to someone like Senator Cruz, I mean,
he is fighting for Americans, He's fighting for our values.
He is unafraid to speak truth to power. When you
look at what Chuck Schumer is doing, though, he has
made Ted Cruz his number one target to take out.
And we need Ted. We need Ted's voice, we need
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Ted's fight, and we need Ted's ability to get things done.
I watched him this year get the FAA reauthorization done
in a bipartisan fashion, getting that across the finish line.
There was no greater champion to stand alongside me in
the US Senate when it came to protecting the access
to IVF than Ted Cruz. I mean the moment that
I got up at conference and spoke about what was
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happening in the state of Alabama, Ted immediately said, I'm
with you, and let's make sure that we fight to
protect this, so Ted is the kind of person we need.
Ted Cruse dot org, Ted Cruz dot org, Tedcreuse dot org.
And seeing him on the campaign trail, he is a machine.
I mean he was from interviews to you know, at rallies,
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to then meeting with constituents, taking pictures and getting on
the bus and doing town halls. So no one's working harder.
And I know that that is just a window into
how all of these Senate candidates are just grinding it
out in these last few days because they know that
saving our country is worth it and having a Republican
majority and the Senate is critically important to that. Chuck
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Schumer's already said what he would do if he maintains
the majority. He would break the filibuster. You know, he'd
have a laundry list of things he would do. First thing,
with the federalizing elections. There s one or hr one
as you've seen it across the nation, you know, making
Puerto Rico and making DC and other state, packing the
Supreme Court, just a few things that they would do
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fundamentally shifting how we operate as a nation. So we
got to stand up and we got to stand strong.
So all of these candidates need your help. And I'm
a little jealous that I am going to miss the
Ohio Penn State game with you because that sounds like
some really good football and we will see if James
Franklin can actually seize the day there on Ryan Day,
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and that's going to be a good one to watch.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Senator Ohio State Penn State. I'm going to be there
in Lot forty one with Dave mccormickbuck.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, no, I want to interrupt the football stuff. I mean,
it's very you know, it's gonna be a big game, right,
I'm who am I rooting for Clay?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You need to tell me. I think you should root
for Penn State because maybe if Penn State wins, there
will be more enthusiasm in Pennsylvania for Donald Trump because
I think Penn State voters will Penn State fans will
be voting Trump, and we've already got Ohio locked up.
I mean, go vote for Bernie Marino. But Trump's not
losing Ohio.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Senator Britt To that end, it seems like it's all
coming down to Pennsylvania. And I'm just wondering from what
you can see talking to your Senate colleagues and people
who are involved in the Republican get out the vote machinery.
How's the ground game they're looking for? Obviously Dave McCormick,
but also Donald Trump. At this stage, have we learned
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some of the lessons of twenty twenty and are we
applying tactics this time around that are going to be
critical and getting that final vote tally where it needs
to be.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
Absolutely, Look, we have learned lessons, and that's what you've
got to do. We've taken a step back from twenty
twenty two and said what could we have done differently? Obviously,
you know, with moving to shifting to a space of
knowing the rules in the state, playing by those rules,
and winning by those rules is what we are doing
right now. We know that everyone has different rules each state,
and so when early voting begins, we've beg we've begun
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really pushing people to engage in that. It's a very
different approach than we saw in twenty twenty two, particularly
in Pennsylvania amongst other states. There has been no one
in the Senate that's been working harder on that than
actually your senator there in Tennessee, Bill and making sure
that we've been thoughtful about who do we miss, how
do we get people likely likely voters or low propensity
voters and working through that. So we've been doing that
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in you know number of states. Pennsylvania is one of those,
Ohio is one, Montana is one, Nevada is one. You know,
you look at Nevada and that's a state where you know,
we lost that Senate race by about seven thousand votes.
It was about eight votes per precinct. And so just
saying how could we do better, what did we learn,
and let's put that in place. Also making sure that
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we've got attorneys who have volunteered their time that are
across the country taking a look at how things are
being done, calling practices out that need to be it's
really are more thoughtful. So at the end of the day,
we are excited, but certainly not complacent.
Speaker 10 (40:46):
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Speaker 8 (40:46):
We we know that now is the time to sprint
through the finish line. And so if you are listening
to this and you have not voted already and that
is legal in your state, to go ahead and vote,
and go vote, and then don't be complacent with that.
Talk to your coworkers, talk to your family members, call
people in other states, because this is a tipping point
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moment for our nation, and it is time to remind
people who we are as a country. While we're so
proud to be Americans, the opportunity we want to preserve
for the next generation, and it is all on the
ballot on November fifth.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Amen, Senator Katie Britt, traveling the country helping them work
towards a Republican majority. We'll talk to you again soon, Senator.
Good luck to the Alabama Crimson tide, but not too
much luck, fair enough, we'll have.
Speaker 8 (41:33):
To I'll come back on to talk about that. How
about that?
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Speaker 1 (44:45):
We are joined by Justin Wells, Tucker Carlson's longtime executive
producer at Fox News. Justin is now the producer of
a new documentary series, Art of the Surge, which you
can watch on x Justin welcome, first time on the program.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Let's just start with this.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
I know you were doing a documentary about the Trump campaign.
Must have been amazing at various points, but then you
were there in Pennsylvania when the bullets were flying, and
I mean right there next to the stage.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yeah, we were very very close. Thank driving me on.
You know, see you guys out all the time and
and big fans. But anyway, yeah, we were. We were
about fifteen feet away over the presence left shoulder and Butler.
We'd been embedded with him for about a month at
that point. We started traveling everywhere with him in June.
You know, he went down rather quickly. For a moment
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you thought it was fireworks. And then obviously when you
when you kind of got a sense of what was
happening in the area and the Secret Service from the stage,
we realized what was going on.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
But we were right there.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
The cameras were rolling, and then we were we were
with the campaign and the area they called the buffer,
which is just mostly Secret Service agents and like a
couple still photographers, and we watched it all unfold and
then we documented what happened in the minutes, you know,
about the first hour right after we worked the crime
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scene and tried to get as close to what we
could uncover as possible.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
So, justin what has the response been of the for
the documentary so far? And I know, I think I
know I'm in it because you were in the press
box when I did my interview with Georgia Alabama and
then I did an interview with you guys. I've heard
from a bunch of people who've already seen it. But
what would you hope that they take away from the
documentary so far?
Speaker 4 (46:41):
I think the most interesting thing about this documentary in particular,
everyone debates the politics of Donald Trump and the way
he messages things or whatnot. You know, you've got Liz
Cheney right now calling him a dictator or not. I
my perspective is that he's a dictator, then why are
you letting us fall him around with a camera, unfiltered
and and completely unvarnished, show exactly how he interacts with
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his team, how he interacts with the media, you know,
the highs and the lows. So what we try to
do is not bring politics into it. You know, we're
not like getting into the nitty gritty of how he
feels about abortion or even immigration. We're actually seeing how
he operates as a manager, and how he operates as
a friend, and how he operates as you know, a
(47:27):
leader for the American people. And that was our goal,
is just being there and catching those interactions, including the
interaction with you, And I think that's pretty powerful. So,
you know, everyone says he's up in the middle of
the night raging, tweeting or whatnot, And there's a scene
in the fourth episode where you see how that unfolds.
He's getting the perspective of people that work with him,
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and they're very smart people around him, but it is
all him it is his words. So you know, you
kind of see the way that Donald Trump works and operates,
and I don't think it's been done before with anyone
running for pressure for president in recent history for sure.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Justin do you get the sense that despite the seriousness,
the sense of history, the life and death situations, that
overall in this campaign Trump is having fun because that
seems to come across to a lot of people that
go to rallies and that do interviews with him, like
Tucker Off off stage. I mean, it comes across to
the viewer. What was it like behind the scenes. Does
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he just love this stuff?
Speaker 8 (48:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
I was there with him in Phoenix yesterday. I was
there in New Mexico. You know, as he was walking
into the plane in New Mexico, you know he was
he was decked out, and you know it's pretty dramatic
when he comes up Trump for one, nobody does that.
But you know, he looked at us, gave us a
thumbs up, like, you know, he was proud of the
outfit he was wearing for that moment. And like he's
always dancing backstage, even when he's not in front of
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the crowds, He's he is having a good time. I
can only imagine I couldn't pull it off. I don't
know anyone that could. But his ability to just kind
of roll with it is uncanny. I mean, you know,
I don't know if we'll ever see anyone that's capable
of doing that. You know, he's back there before he
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takes the stage, editing his speeches, but he's not. In
many ways, he's just adding it to kind of just
add a little bit more not entertainment necessarily, but he's
making it more engaging, you know, as as anybody that's
trying to communicate with with voters should be doing. I
can't imagine the person he's running against is doing that backstage.
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I don't think she's written a single word of her speeches.
So you know, he's definitely engaged. He is not exhausted
or any of that. He's he's back there having fun,
shaking hands, wanting to take pictures. And you know we
captured in the documentary firsthand. But anybody that's kind of
been around his orbit in the last month or six
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months has seen that out of him for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Justin what about just the inexhaustible energy that Donald Trump
seems to possess even at seventy nine years old, and
we Buck and I have been fortunate to see him
a lot behind the scenes, and we've talked about this,
but after one of our interviews at mar A Lago,
he insisted that he wanted us to have milkshakes. Our
wives were there too, and he wanted us to wait
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because mar A Lago has the best milkshakes. What I
found that I'm curious, and we've seen him with his
grandchildren behind scenes. What I found, to mention you're earlier
analysis of dictatored him or whatnot, is that he's actually
a pretty likable, easy going guy outside of the public spotlight.
I'm curious if you saw that. And also to your point, Albuquerque, Phoenix,
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the travel schedule is crazy for anybody. Are you as
a much younger man, sometimes like, how does he have
this inexhaustible supply of energy?
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, I can do it, and I can see a
lot of my friends being able to do that. You know,
people in the media work long hours or whatnot, but
like you know, we all get exhausted after you know,
hours and hours grueling on something, but he just goes NonStop.
And you know, he was up yesterday at like six
in the morning, and then that was six in the
morning Eastern time, and then he wrapped up at I
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think it was like ten thirty pm, you know, out
in Phoenix, you know, so that's that's three hours earlier.
So I mean, he's putting in these long days that
I've never seen anything like it, and he's he's the
one that's not done.
Speaker 9 (51:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
There are people around him that are probably like, Okay,
it's time to get back to the plane at the hotel,
and he's ready to see more people, take more pictures,
have more conversations, and in those conversations, you know, the
person you see kind of on stage and specifically in
the documentary is the same person that people interact with. It.
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It's not an act. He is very funny, he's he's
extremely likable, even if you you know people there there's
certain people that probably don't agree with his politics, but
if they actually got to know him and actually knew
what he was like as a person, as a father,
as the manager of the people that work for him,
I mean, I can't see how they could compare him
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to Kamala Harris and think that he's some sort of
you know, satanistic dictator or whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
They want to portray him as we speaking.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Of Justin Wells, he is the producer of Art of
the Surge, a documentary which you can watch on X.
I want to ask you about that, justin the Elon
factor in well probably the history of the world, but
also in this election, is profound just having X as
a true free speech platform that is a broad spectrum, right.
(52:38):
I mean, I know that you know, there's rumble, there's
there's truth, but those don't really reach outside of a
more center right audience, Whereas with X you still have
this tens of millions or hundreds of millions, however many
it is these days of active users a month, and
I just think it's interesting that not only has that
allowed for more robust exchange of ideas online going into
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this election that we saw in twenty twenty, but it
also is just the beginning, from what I understand, of
people using X as a platform in a whole range
of ways. I mean, why tell us about the choice
of putting out a documentary first and foremost on X
as the platform.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
I think it was important for a host of reasons.
When Tucker and I, you know, departed Fox or what not,
we went to X temporarily. He's since launched took across
a network in addition to that. But you know, what
we found with X, and what I found recently as well,
is they just have the scale to reach a huge
number of people. I think thirty percent of their audience
is independence. The rest is split amongst people on the
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left and the right as far as domestic American the
American audience there and when you see what happened to
Joe Rogan in his interview on YouTube with President Trump
just the other day. He's the biggest podcaster in the world.
And sure he's got a Spotify idea where he's allegedly protected,
but then you see that, you know, you can't even
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search for probably the most important consequential interview of the week,
if not the month, if not the entire election as
far as this race. People wanted to hear that interview,
and you know, YouTube made sure that you couldn't hear
that interview. And I think that that, you know, X
definitely serves a purpose as far as that, and and
(54:19):
somebody needs to move into that video space and YouTube
has been dominant for too long, but they're they're putting
their fingers on the scale clearly because they don't even
want you to find what you're searching for. So I
thought it was important to reach as many people as
possible before the election outside of a paywall, and I
felt the best way to do that and engage with
folks is on X. And I think that there's definitely
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a seismic shift in the way X is perceived thanks
to a lot of what Elon is putting into the
platform and allowing creators like myself and others to put
forward there.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Check it out. You can watch it at Art of
the Surge on X and also check out Art of
Thesurge dot com. Justin Wells Tucker Carlson's executive producer producer
of this brand new documentary series, Art of the Surge,
which I'm happy to be a part of. Justin, We
appreciate the time. I'm sure that through the election is
going to be a heck of a good thing to
be able to see.
Speaker 4 (55:17):
Absolutely, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it, good
to see it.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
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We are just a few days away from election day.
We have all of the latest racked and stacked for you,
the final arguments from the campaigns, the polling, which I'll
tell you is now it's turning into a little bit
(00:21):
too much of too close to call everywhere with the
early voting that's coming in. A lot of it's tied,
it's tied. Well, we'll try to make sense of some
of that today. I'm down here in Savannah, Georgia for
my mom's birthday. Happy birthday, Mom, So we're hanging out here.
Clay's out in Tennessee. We've got Senator Katie Britt joining
(00:42):
hopefully soon to be Senator Dave McCormick running that critical
pennsylvani race. Clay did an interview with him that we
wanted to air for you today, so that'll be just
a little later on the program. And Justin, who is
formerly Tucker Carlson's executive producer, now runs documentaries and special
projects for the Tucker Carlson Network and he is going
(01:07):
to be with us too, so we will get into
all of that the big news story today. If you
if I can take take us in this direction for
a minute other than the usual.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Do you hear what Trump said?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Everyone's all supposed to freak out. Trump said something. Liz
Cheney is pretending like Trump wanted violence against me. You know,
I'm noticing a pattern here. Our friend Ryan Gerduski was
on CNN and they tried to claim the guy at
the table tried to claim, are you saying, are you
saying that I should offer violence? And it's like, no,
he's not saying that, you know. And then now we
(01:44):
have somebody else coming along here Liz Cheney, and Liz
Cheney is saying, in response to Trump talking to her
about the foreign wars issue, we're speaking about the Cheney
family's history of ending young men off to unfortunately fight
in wars and the terrible things that happened there. And
(02:06):
they try to act like he's calling for violence against her.
So we'll get into all this, But Clay, I thought
we could start just because it goes to where things
currently are with the economy and how they're trying to
tell us things are great with the economy. Turns out
not so much. We have the latest jobs numbers, and
this is certainly not going to help the Harris case here.
(02:29):
They're certainly not going to help them going forward. Here's
c NBC's Rick Santelli telling you that in October an
anemic twelve thousand jobs added. Here's what he had to say,
play one the.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Big jobs Jobs, Jobs report, and the prephacy came true.
Jobs light twelve thousand, twelve thousand, and non farm payroll
that is the lightest going back to December of.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Twenty twenty, Clay there were four casting one hundred and
six thousand. And let's just keep in mind the August
report has already been revised down eighty one thousand, the
September report has already been revised down thirty one thousand.
This is the worst jobs market if you were to
(03:17):
try to look at just on a numbers basis, this
is the worst month of reports we've seen since well,
certainly the end of twenty twenty and into twenty twenty one,
which tells.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You it's an economy, border crime election, and the economy,
as many of you know, is not good and the
cost of goods overwhelmingly is out of control, whether it's
buying a home, whether it's buying your groceries. The border
is an unmitigated disaster. More details have come out, Buck,
I mean, there's an example of this in every state
(03:50):
in America now. But the Jewish man walking in Chicago
who was killed by a by an illegal immigrant that
should have never been in this country. Lake and Riley
in the Athens, Georgia area. Who's dead? I mean, Joscelyn Nungaryy.
There's so many different names out there. Every single state
in America there's someone who's dead because Kamala Harris and
(04:13):
Joe Biden left the border open, and then the border
ties in very much with crime, which they tried to
lie to you about, and the reality is crime is
up and they had to revise the statistics and they suddenly, oh,
well yeah, when we plug in this, the violent crime
is up and twenty twenty two, and we thought it
was down in twenty twenty three, and all these different aspects.
(04:36):
Trust what you see, not what you are often told,
and economy, border crime. The reason why Trump's gonna win,
I believe, Buck, is those three issues are all in
his favor. As we sit here four days out, listen
to me carefully. I'm getting on a plane, Buck, as
soon as we finish this show, and I'm flying to
Pennsylvania and am campaigning for Dave McCormick and Donald Trump
(04:59):
in Pennsylvania. Trump is going to have to win one
of I hope he wins all three, but at least
one of Pennsylvania, Michigan or Wisconsin. I think Kamala is
going to have to win all three. So listen to
me carefully. We got monster audiences in those three states.
Get out and vote. Get out and vote. Grab people
in your friends and family group who might otherwise not go,
(05:19):
Get him in the car, take him to the local
polling place, Get out and vote. This is going to
be a tight election. Kamala has got one path buck.
I think it's to win all three of what I
call the Big ten states. If Trump can win one,
certainly we want him to win all three. He's going
to be president. It's going to be close. Get out
and vote. I'm putting my voice to the extent that
(05:40):
I can on the ground in Pennsylvania to help out
the last possible moment as best I can. We're going
to be at the Ohio State penn State game. Lot
forty one. If you're going to be at that game,
Ohio State fans will welcome you, penn State fans certainly
huge college football game. It's going to come down to
a few thousand votes. Buck. I think everybody go into
(06:00):
a football game this weekend. The election is going to
be decided in those three states. I really think by
a crowd that's smaller than the one that's going to
be in a football stadium in a country of three
hundred and forty million, whatever the heck we are, one
football stadium likely will decide the outcome of the election
in the big ten states. That's how tight it's going
to be. If you don't think your vote matters, this
(06:22):
is going to be the ultimate test of that. It
matters more than you can possibly imagine.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think as if it could be any higher. The
stakes in Pennsylvania are such that Donald Trump is of
the Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan axis. Donald Trump is most likely
I think to win Pennsylvania right now based on some
of the early vote data. And now this can change,
(06:48):
right the early voting is going on for days here.
But he's most likely to win Pennsylvania. So that's the
good news. But he has to win Pennsylvania is the
other side of this too. I think that we have
seen too many forecasters crunching the numbers, and what they
come away with is that you win Pennsylvania, your chance
of winning the election for Kamala and for Trump is
(07:09):
basically eighty nine percent. It's a little more certain for
Trump than it is for Kamala. But if you lose Pennsylvania,
you basically can't really get it done unless you're going
to run the table and a whole lot of other things.
So everyone's saying it's super close right now. I still
have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump and in
this campaign, and to that end, I just wanted to
want to play this, Clay. This is an ad I mean,
(07:32):
you know, we can sit here and we do and
point out the deficiencies and the challenges of the Kamala
Harris campaign. Up to this point. It has been a
spectacularly I would argue, a spectacularly weak campaign, and yet
it is very close, and I think that says a
lot of troubling things about the electorate in this country.
(07:54):
But you also have some really amazing moments.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I was with my family last night, Clay, all of
us gathered here together in Savannah, and we were sitting
around to dinner, made sure we could talk freely about politics.
A lot of a lot of Harris Wall's signs here.
I have a little upsetting. I gotta tell you, I
love this town. The second I leave city limits, it's
Trump Country. The second you're in Savannah proper, all of
(08:21):
a sudden, they're like handing out copies of the Communist
Manifesto with the Macha lattes here. I don't know what's
going on. Well I do know what's going on, but
you wouldn't expect it. But we were talking about how
the fact that the you you would have to say,
the most iconic moment I think of the entire campaign
so far for Trump was him being shot and then
(08:44):
standing up and yelling fight.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
And I think that I have some you know, I've
had some guts at different points in my life. I
don't I'm not going to say that I think I
do that. I'd be you know, ducking and trying to
get behind cover. You know, what Trump did was incredible. Okay,
what he did was just amazing. Even some people who
hated Trump were willing to admit in the twenty four
hours afterwards, that is the most badass thing that they
had ever seen in politics, because it is It just
(09:08):
goes to the fighting spirit that this man has. It
goes to the fact that he is walking with destiny
and this is about more than just you know, settling
some score in the past politically or anything like that.
Here is the final ad, Clay. I know I think
you shared this from your Twitter account. We had the
team pull it. I want everyone to listen to this.
I mean the visuals are great too, but the audio
(09:30):
this is cut forward. The audio tells the story.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Think about all they've done to Donald Trump. First it
was hoaxes, witch hunts, and impeachments. Then it was FBI raids,
courtrooms and mop shots. Finally it was bullets in a
Pennsylvania field. And after all that, this man stood up
(09:58):
with blood draining down his face, pumped his fists in
the air and told us to fight.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
America's future will be bigger, better, bolder, brighter, happier, stronger, freer,
greater and more united than ever before.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
And we will make America great again.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
We know what they think of us.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
The only garbage I see Floa down there as his supporters.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
So if Donald Trump can get through all of that,
we can get out to a vote.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
All the ad says a lot. Man, it's quite an ad.
And now, if you were to just say, even from
their perspective, what's the most iconic moment of the Kamalaak campaign,
what is the Maybe they would argue that the debate
where it was three on one or something. I think
that's probably what they would go with. But we watched it, Clay,
we analyze it. I don't really remember anything from that
(11:01):
to bit. I remember Trump saying they're eating the dogs.
That's about all I remember.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I think if you went with the three most iconic
home First of all, the Trump response to the assassination
attempt is and we said it the day after it happened,
it is to me anyone who ever attacked Trump for
not believing what he stands for is finished after the
way he responded there. And so I think it's the
(11:28):
most icons maybe the most iconic moment in any of
our lives from presidential candidate. But then you also layer
in and these are obviously much less serious, but the
McDonald's forye cook thing from the drive through window and
then the garbage truck interview, as well as wearing the
safety vest on the stage, Buck. Last night, I was
(11:50):
out trick or treating with my ten year old people
in my neighborhood. So many of them were dressed up
in garbage bags, were dressed up in reflective jackets with
Maga hats. So many of you have shared your photos
with me. I asked, hey, share your Trump inspired Halloween costumes.
I think the gift from Biden to the Trump team
(12:14):
of calling all supporters garbage has motivated so many people
out there to get out and vote and make sure
they're even more enthusiastic than they were before. And to me,
I just I am ready. I'm going to be on
the ground in Pennsylvania fighting as hard as I can.
But I am so ready, Buck, for Election Day to
be here and for these results to come pouring in
(12:37):
and for Donald Trump to win and complete the greatest
political comeback of all time. But it's on all of
us to make it happen. Trump is done. I think
it's fair to say everything that he possibly could to win.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I do think that there is a quiet confidence that
Trump voters can all have Trump supporters, all across the
country can have that, come what may. Their guy has
run a hell of a campaign. He has made the case.
He has stood strong, he has had powerful moments, He's
(13:10):
had a lot of improvements made over the voting machinery
of twenty twenty. And it's really on us as a
nation now. I mean, if the choice is made for
Kamala Harris, I think that will be a tragedy for
the country will rebound. We'll do what we can, we
continue in the fight. But I could not look back
(13:32):
at this campaign. It's a little bit like how I
felt after JD Vance's debate, where yeah, nothing is perfect,
but it's so good that what's the point of criticizing it.
I think Trump's campaign has been pretty close to that.
I don't have any I don't have any criticisms of
the campaign that are really worth airing out because I
think he's run a great campaign. I think he's been
on message. I think he's been disciplined. And you know,
(13:56):
if America, I know, we got a lot of everyone's like, well,
I'm voting for Trump, yeah, but if America for some
reason doesn't end up with him as the president, well
that's on America.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, I agree, and we're gonna do everything we can.
I just mentioned I'm going to be at lot forty
one with Dave McCormick. We'll talk to him at the
top of the third hour of the program. We already
taped that with him, Senate candidate in Pennsylvania. Buck last
night Lot forty one, by the way, at the Ohio
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or wherever you get your podcasts. The battleground state of
Pennsylvania is so incredibly important, and the guy that you
need to make sure that you are the next Senator
from Pennsylvania is Dave McCormick. I am going to hop
a flight as soon as we are done with the
radio show today, fly to State College, PA. I'm going
to be with this man tomorrow helping to rally voters
(16:21):
and it's a fun place to be doing it too.
With the Ohio State penn State game going on, He
joins us now the next senator we hope from Pennsylvania.
If you guys, get out and vote. Dave McCormick, how
is it going? What are you seeing on the ground.
It seems like Pennsylvania. Whoever wins Pennsylvania for the presidency
is going to be the president, and may well be
(16:41):
the case that whoever wins the Senate race is going
to control the Senate. Pennsylvanians have a lot in their hands.
What are you seeing out there, Dave.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
Hey Clay, thanks so much for having me. Can't wait
to hang out with you tonight and tomorrow. It's going
to be an incredible game. Penn State, Ohio State is
going to be It's going to be epic and you know,
and great enthusiasm on the ground. Honestly, I think what
you're seeing is this, the polls have closed dramatically, and
at the top of the ticket. I think the more
people see of Kamala Harris, the more energy you see.
(17:12):
But behind President Trump and it's really an election that's
about strength versus weakness, and the common sense policies of
President Trump versus this radical liberal agenda van fracking, you know,
legalize the legal immigration, defund the police, mandatory buybacks of
your guns. So I think that's why you see President
Trump gaining steam. And in my case, it's a race
(17:35):
between change that I represent and the status quo from
Bob Casey's a career politician, thirty years in elected office,
votes ninety eight point six percent of time with Biden Harris,
and then voted for all these crazy policies, sanctuary cities,
defunding the police, boys competing women's sports. He's just out
of touch with Pennsylvania. And that's why I think you've
(17:57):
seen the polls close. I think all the polling suggests
that President Trump is tied or gaining some momentum and
maybe a bit in the lead. And the same with me,
and I think we're going to have a great day
on November since. But we've got to get people. For
your listeners, we've got to get every single voter out there.
Tell your friends you know ten people, ten people, ten people,
(18:20):
Get those people on the fence. This election really is
the most important one of our lifetimes.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
You mentioned something that I think is important. Pennsylvania is
where Leah Thomas, the University of Pennsylvania swimmer, what came
from and swim against Riley Gaines. This is a man
who swam on the University of Pennsylvania swim team, then
flipped and decided to swim as a woman on the
University of Pennsylvania women's team one in the NCAA Championship.
(18:47):
Now we employ Riley Gaines at out Kicks. She's done
a phenomenal job. University of Kentucky swimmer who just said
this is wrong. I'm not going to stand for this.
She's been all over the place. Your opponent, Senator Bob
Casey and Pennsylvan said he supported this. I mean by itself,
that to me feels disqualifying to be representing the state
of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
It really is. It just shows you how extreme the
Democratic Party has become. And Bob Casey, listen, he you know,
I don't know what he was like eighteen years ago,
but he went to the Senate saying he was going
to change Washington, and Washington changed Bob Casey, and he's
now completely out of step with Pennsylvania. And I have
campaigned with Paula Scanlon who was a teammate of Leah
Thomas and and so had to be in the locker room.
(19:31):
You know, was deppressed by University of Pennsylvania. She's this
great athlete.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I know her well, She's done fabulous work. She is
not sorry to cut you off. But for people who
don't know her, she was having to be a teammate
in the locker room with a man.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
It's just hard to imagine. And you know, when I
sat down with her and talked about this, it was
even though I had read about it, it was so
far beyond what was, you know, imaginable, And and this
just shows you how crazy an extreme the Democratic Party
has become. And you know, listen, there's so many issues
to talk about, directless spending that's led to inflation, but
(20:11):
the wide open border is probably the thing that I
hear the most about these days. In the following sense,
we got a huge fentanyl crisis across our country and
in Pennsylvania. Clay four thousand Pennsylvanias. Last year, I sat
down with a bunch of fentanyl families with my wife.
We talked about the kid, the kids, the beautiful children
(20:33):
they lost. It's like somebody reached down your throat and
pulled your heart out when you hear these stories, and
most of them didn't know they were taking fentanyl. And
this is the cartels. Coming across the wide open border
takes twenty four forty eight seventy two hours, and that
fentanyl through their distribution network is in Pennsylvania, and it's
ravaging our communities. We lost one hundred and sixteen thousand
(20:56):
people last year in America, which is twice the number
one we lost in Vietnam and eight years we had
two Vietnams last year, And and Bob Casey has done nothing.
He's voted against the border wall, He's voted against four
sanctuarous cities, voted against funding for the border patrol. This
is the kind of thing where you need strong leadership.
And you know, if I'm in the Senate on day one,
(21:18):
I'll support President Trump and the law and securing the border,
but I'll also support designating the cartels is a terrorist
organization and using our military very thoughtfully, strategically, our drones,
our special operations to take out these manufacturing facilities from
the cartels, the distribution networks. This is a war that
(21:41):
is ravaging our children and Bob Casey has done nothing
about it.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
You have six daughters. Yesterday was Halloween. I'm curious. I
won't ask for specific names, but you probably had to
meet a few boyfriends over the years. What does it
like to have six daughters, to be a and being joy?
I can't even imagine. I've got three boys. I can't
imagine what six daughters is like.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Man, we feel blessed. We've got a blended family. And
so they're twenty four to eighteen. And I say to people, listen,
when you've had sixteenage daughters at one time, politics it
seems easy. You know, politics easy compared to six teenage daughters.
And they are a joy for us, and we're so
proud of them. And they're proud of their dad for
(22:27):
running or their stepdad for running, and have been very supportive.
But you see that these political campaigns are tough on families,
and you know, you really got to put yourself in
the arena. And my wife, Dina has been an incredible
partner and supporter in this. But you only do it
because you think the country is going in the wrong direction.
(22:50):
You think you can make a difference. So you know,
you and I have talked about West Point, where I
learned the notion of duty on our country. And that
is why I'm running because I think are our amazing,
exceptional nations at risk. I think we're gonna wake up
and not recognize the country we have for for those
six daughters, for your for your three boys, unless we
(23:11):
change direction. And that's uh, that's why we need strong, strong,
common sense leadership in the Senate and the White House.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Have you seen You may not have because you've got
a billion things going on. You went to West Point.
They are playing, I believe against Air Force this weekend.
They have skull crossbone helmets this weekend. Army does that
is how badass are those.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
It's pretty bad. It's pretty badass. Listen, this will be
a huge game. I mean, I'm so proud of the
Army team. They're they're great this year. Navy's done great
this year. To the Army Navy game is going to
be incredible. And uh, you know, we have a great tradition.
You talked about those six daughters, but we have this
great tradition. The game's usually in Philadelphia's they've lost that
for the last couple of years, but we take them
to Philadelphia every year for the Army Navy game, and
(23:58):
I insist Clay getting them up early on Saturday morning,
and we do the Rocky Run, which they're shine. We
do the Rocky Ride. We end at the Art Museum
where you run the steps, and I make them sing
the Rocky song and there's lots of complaining, but they're
always happy they did it. And and then we take
into that game, and you know, I've done. I've gone
(24:20):
that game, you know, I don't know thirty times, probably
twenty five thirty times. And it never stops, ever from
me getting a little misty at the end when both
teams stand at attention to sing the others alma mater
the winning teams alma mater is sent is sung last.
And you know, Dean always says the great thing about
(24:42):
that game, no matter who wins, ar Mere Navy, America
always wins because it's such an incredible rivalry of brothers
in arms who are committed to defending our country and
one another. Despite a hell of a rivalry between the two.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
No doubt, I fortunate enough to go to those games
several times now. And if you are a sports fan
or just an American who appreciates American history. It is
something that should one hundred percent be on the bucket list.
Speaking of the bucket list, a lot of people would
like to be going to the game that you and
I are going to be going to tomorrow, Ohio State,
Penn State. We're going to be tailgating. It's the biggest,
(25:21):
best game of the day. Fox is big. Noon is
going to be there. College Game Day is going to
be there. Kicks off at noon Eastern from Happy Valley.
For people who want to see where we are going
to be tailgating all those things, what can you tell them?
I know we're going to be out bright and early
several hours because again tailgate is at noon. I mean
(25:41):
the kickoff is at noon eastern, so it's an early case.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
You're beginning at nine. We're in LOP forty one. You're
going to see me because my big McCormick campaign bus
is there and it's red, white and blue and camouflage.
It's got an eight foot picture of my face on it,
which which my wife said to me, you got to
have a hell of an ego to have an eight
foot pictures. So we're excited about it. It's going to
(26:05):
be a great turnout. We're gonna have I'm sure many
hundreds of students and play the thing I'm hearing. You know,
I don't know if you feel the same way when
you go to campuses, but I feel, you know, campuses
have traditionally leaned much more democrat for young folks, and man,
I feel a lot of support around young people. I've
done a number of college events, number of sporting events.
(26:28):
I feel a lot of young people that are deeply
worried about their future, who want to save the country
and have the kind of American opportunity that you and
I have had. And and I'm seeing a lot of
energy on campuses. So we'll see that tomorrow morning. And
then we're going to see an epic game, and you know,
let's go go penn State. Go line.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, I like Penn State to win and cover by
the way for the gamblers out there a lot forty one.
I will be with him, the next Senator from the
great state of Pennsylvania, Dave McCormick. If you are going
to be at that game, well even welcome Ohio State
fans to come by and say hi, yes as well.
It should be an awesome scene. Lot forty one Again,
(27:09):
if you're going to be at that game. Come by
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Speaker 2 (29:02):
Walking Again, Clay T'reravis, Buck Sexton Show Friday. Hope all
of you are having a fantastic post Halloween recovery hanging
out with us. Four days until the election, and we're
joined now by Senator Katie Britt of Alabama. We got
a lot to get into with her. But Senator Britt,
last time I saw you, you were with Donald Trump
at the Georgia Alabama game. Based on my knowledge of you,
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you are both a strong and intelligent woman. But Mark
Cuban claims that no strong intelligent women are ever seen
with Trump. What did you think when you heard those comments?
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Look, I thought that it was a desperate attempt to
convince women not to vote for President Trump. And we
know President Trump is fighting for all Americans, and honestly,
as a woman, I'm offended. I am really offended. You
think about the different people that President Trump has had
around him. You think about how many of those were women,
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how many of those were working women that he sought
their counsel, their advice, He wanted their thoughts on policy
positions and how to move forward. I've experienced that myself
in my short term in the United States Senate. When
it came to talking about the issue of IVS. President
Trump not only immediately took my call, but listen to
what I had to say, and then he acted. And
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so the fact that Mark Cuban would run his mouth
yet again and do so in such a disparaging way
to so many women across America. I'm just once again offended.
And it's so interesting to me, Clay. Here you have
the party that's supposed to be this party of unity
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and party of diversity, so they say, and yet they
continue to say, if you do not think just like me,
not only are you not welcome, but we're going to
make sure to be disparaging to you as well. And
at the end of the day, women are smarter than this.
They are smarter than to play into the hand of
someone like Mark Cuban, because we know that the issues
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in front of us, that of a secure border, out
of safe streets, out of strong families, and a strong defense,
those are things that matter to our families. Those are
things that matter to our opportunity to achieve the American dream,
and those are things that matter to preserving it for
our children. And so I think this is going to
backfire in a big way, and for me personally, the
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moment I heard it, just utterly offended and thought it
was despicable.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I know you probably don't know him, Senator Britt, but
Mark Cuban, a lot of us reckon remember him from
the earlier days of Shark Tank.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Do you think that some of these surrogates for Kamala
that are going around make it a particular fool of themselves.
The brainwashing just sets in after a period of time,
and they think that Donald Trump really is going to
end the country, even though he didn't. The first four
years actually worked out really well. But how do you
engauge that, Like, what are some of these individuals that
are celebrities think they're going to accomplish by doing this
(32:02):
other than probably get made fun of a lot on
X like Mark Cuban, who has now had to deal
with a front cover New York Post article on him.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, thank goodness. And look, there should be more coverage
of these stars that are stepping out and disparaging every
day Americans. Look, we're all entitled to our opinion. That's
the beauty of this nation. And the interesting thing is is,
obviously Donald Trump is going to be the one to
fight to allow you to have that opinion, even if
it's different than his. And if you think about what
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these stars are doing, they're conforming to peer pressure. They
have been literally in an echo chamber.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
They live.
Speaker 8 (32:42):
Pretty incredible lives, and instead of taking a step back
and saying, what is the appeal of an everyday American
to vote for Donald Trump? Why is it that they
believe he would run the country back, they immediately looked
down their nose and say things that are disparaging and
truly despicable in so many ways about people who they're
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not even trying to understand where they are in life
and what they're doing. And if you look at it, guys,
look at what it was under Donald Trump. We had
the most secure border in decades. If you look at
the fact of what's happening overseas right now, I mean,
whether it is Buten's invasion of Ukraine, whether it is
what is happening in Middle in the Middle East with
our greatest ally, Israel, whether it is China coming over
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to our shore in San Francisco and meeting with Joe
Biden then saying it's not an if but a when
I take Taiwan. There is no doubt we are weaker
and more vulnerable with Biden Harris in office. And if
you look back to President Trump, there were no new
wars started under President Trump. And then also too, we
know that our dollar went further. I mean, President Trump
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thought about how do we make sure that Americans can
achieve that American dream, whether it's through energy and dependence
and dominance, whether it's through you know, making sure that
they are good paying jobs for all Americans. You know,
those are things he's fighting for. And so, you know,
you look at what the liberals continue to do. You know,
rewind back to when Hillary Clinton called us deplorables, rewind
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just a week within the last week, when Joe Biden
called us garbage, and now you have Mark Cuban calling
us weak and dumb.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
And instead of.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Trying to understand why people would want Donald Trump in office,
which is pretty obvious to me, they want to create
peer pressure and dynamics where you're not cool unless you're
with them. And I think at the end of the day,
the American people know better. They know they want stable
prices and a secure border and safe streets and a
strong defense, and they know that Donald Trump will deliver that.
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And I think when people ask themselves the question are
you better off now than you were four years ago,
there is no one that can say yes. And at
the end of the day, when people go into the
ballot box, It is not the words, the disparaging words
of Mark Q then that will have an effect on them.
It is what is possible for them, and what is
possible for the country, and what is possible for the
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Fusprus or children with Donald Trump in charge.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
We're talking to Senator Katie Britt. Katie, I know you've
been on the road with Ted Cruz recently going through Texas.
I'm going to be at the Ohio State penn State
game tomorrow with Dave McCormick. He's going to be on
with us in the third hour in a bit. But
whether it's Mike Rodgers in Michigan, Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania,
Eric Hovdy in Wisconsin, Carrie Lake Arizona, Sam Brown and Nevada,
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Tim Sheeehey and Montana. We've got Bernie Marino in Ohio.
I hope I'm not missing anybody. Certainly West Virginia is
gonna flip with Jim Justice. What are you seeing, How
did it look with the cruise campaign and what would
it mean to take back control of the United States Senate.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Look, we have all got to make sure that we
are paying attention to these races. If you are out
there and you can. You can send a dollar, you
can send five dollars, anything like that. All of these
candidates you just named need your help. It is it
is critically important that we take back the Senate, and
then we want to do so. And obviously the more
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than the better position we are to do good things.
And when it comes to someone like Senator Cruz, I mean,
he is fighting for Americans, He's fighting for our values.
He is unafraid to speak truth to power. When you
look at what Chuck Schumer is doing, though, he has
made Ted Cruz his number one target to take out.
And we need Ted. We need Ted's voice, we need
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Ted's fight, and we need Ted's ability to get things done.
I watched him this year get the FAA reauthorization done
in a bipartisan fashion, getting that across the finish line.
There was no greater champion to stand alongside me in
the US Senate when it came to protecting the access
to IVF than Ted Cruz. I mean the moment that
I got up at conference and spoke about what was
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happening in the state of Alabama, Ted immediately said, I'm
with you, and let's make sure that we fight to
protect this, so Ted is the kind of person we need.
Ted Cruse dot org, Ted Cruz dot org, Tedcreuse dot org.
And seeing him on the campaign trail, he is a machine.
I mean he was from interviews to you know, at rallies,
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to then meeting with constituents, taking pictures and getting on
the bus and doing town halls. So no one's working harder.
And I know that that is just a window into
how all of these Senate candidates are just grinding it
out in these last few days because they know that
saving our country is worth it and having a Republican
majority and the Senate is critically important to that. Chuck
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Schumer's already said what he would do if he maintains
the majority. He would break the filibuster. You know, he'd
have a laundry list of things he would do. First thing,
with the federalizing elections. There s one or hr one
as you've seen it across the nation, you know, making
Puerto Rico and making DC and other state, packing the
Supreme Court, just a few things that they would do
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fundamentally shifting how we operate as a nation. So we
got to stand up and we got to stand strong.
So all of these candidates need your help. And I'm
a little jealous that I am going to miss the
Ohio Penn State game with you because that sounds like
some really good football and we will see if James
Franklin can actually seize the day there on Ryan Day,
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and that's going to be a good one to watch.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Senator Ohio State Penn State. I'm going to be there
in Lot forty one with Dave mccormickbuck.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
No, no, I want to interrupt the football stuff. I mean,
it's very you know, it's gonna be a big game, right,
I'm who am I rooting for Clay?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
You need to tell me. I think you should root
for Penn State because maybe if Penn State wins, there
will be more enthusiasm in Pennsylvania for Donald Trump because
I think Penn State voters will Penn State fans will
be voting Trump, and we've already got Ohio locked up.
I mean, go vote for Bernie Marino. But Trump's not
losing Ohio.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Senator Britt To that end, it seems like it's all
coming down to Pennsylvania. And I'm just wondering from what
you can see talking to your Senate colleagues and people
who are involved in the Republican get out the vote machinery.
How's the ground game they're looking for? Obviously Dave McCormick,
but also Donald Trump. At this stage, have we learned
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some of the lessons of twenty twenty and are we
applying tactics this time around that are going to be
critical and getting that final vote tally where it needs
to be.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
Absolutely, Look, we have learned lessons, and that's what you've
got to do. We've taken a step back from twenty
twenty two and said what could we have done differently? Obviously,
you know, with moving to shifting to a space of
knowing the rules in the state, playing by those rules,
and winning by those rules is what we are doing
right now. We know that everyone has different rules each state,
and so when early voting begins, we've beg we've begun
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really pushing people to engage in that. It's a very
different approach than we saw in twenty twenty two, particularly
in Pennsylvania amongst other states. There has been no one
in the Senate that's been working harder on that than
actually your senator there in Tennessee, Bill and making sure
that we've been thoughtful about who do we miss, how
do we get people likely likely voters or low propensity
voters and working through that. So we've been doing that
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in you know number of states. Pennsylvania is one of those,
Ohio is one, Montana is one, Nevada is one. You know,
you look at Nevada and that's a state where you know,
we lost that Senate race by about seven thousand votes.
It was about eight votes per precinct. And so just
saying how could we do better, what did we learn,
and let's put that in place. Also making sure that
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we've got attorneys who have volunteered their time that are
across the country taking a look at how things are
being done, calling practices out that need to be it's
really are more thoughtful. So at the end of the day,
we are excited, but certainly not complacent.
Speaker 10 (40:46):
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Speaker 8 (40:46):
We we know that now is the time to sprint
through the finish line. And so if you are listening
to this and you have not voted already and that
is legal in your state, to go ahead and vote,
and go vote, and then don't be complacent with that.
Talk to your coworkers, talk to your family members, call
people in other states, because this is a tipping point
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moment for our nation, and it is time to remind
people who we are as a country. While we're so
proud to be Americans, the opportunity we want to preserve
for the next generation, and it is all on the
ballot on November fifth.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Amen, Senator Katie Britt, traveling the country helping them work
towards a Republican majority. We'll talk to you again soon, Senator.
Good luck to the Alabama Crimson tide, but not too
much luck, fair enough, we'll have.
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To I'll come back on to talk about that. How
about that?
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Speaker 1 (44:45):
We are joined by Justin Wells, Tucker Carlson's longtime executive
producer at Fox News. Justin is now the producer of
a new documentary series, Art of the Surge, which you
can watch on x Justin welcome, first time on the program.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Let's just start with this.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
I know you were doing a documentary about the Trump campaign.
Must have been amazing at various points, but then you
were there in Pennsylvania when the bullets were flying, and
I mean right there next to the stage.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yeah, we were very very close. Thank driving me on.
You know, see you guys out all the time and
and big fans. But anyway, yeah, we were. We were
about fifteen feet away over the presence left shoulder and Butler.
We'd been embedded with him for about a month at
that point. We started traveling everywhere with him in June.
You know, he went down rather quickly. For a moment
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you thought it was fireworks. And then obviously when you
when you kind of got a sense of what was
happening in the area and the Secret Service from the stage,
we realized what was going on.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
But we were right there.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
The cameras were rolling, and then we were we were
with the campaign and the area they called the buffer,
which is just mostly Secret Service agents and like a
couple still photographers, and we watched it all unfold and
then we documented what happened in the minutes, you know,
about the first hour right after we worked the crime
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scene and tried to get as close to what we
could uncover as possible.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
So, justin what has the response been of the for
the documentary so far? And I know, I think I
know I'm in it because you were in the press
box when I did my interview with Georgia Alabama and
then I did an interview with you guys. I've heard
from a bunch of people who've already seen it. But
what would you hope that they take away from the
documentary so far?
Speaker 4 (46:41):
I think the most interesting thing about this documentary in particular,
everyone debates the politics of Donald Trump and the way
he messages things or whatnot. You know, you've got Liz
Cheney right now calling him a dictator or not. I
my perspective is that he's a dictator, then why are
you letting us fall him around with a camera, unfiltered
and and completely unvarnished, show exactly how he interacts with
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his team, how he interacts with the media, you know,
the highs and the lows. So what we try to
do is not bring politics into it. You know, we're
not like getting into the nitty gritty of how he
feels about abortion or even immigration. We're actually seeing how
he operates as a manager, and how he operates as
a friend, and how he operates as you know, a
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leader for the American people. And that was our goal,
is just being there and catching those interactions, including the
interaction with you, And I think that's pretty powerful. So,
you know, everyone says he's up in the middle of
the night raging, tweeting or whatnot, And there's a scene
in the fourth episode where you see how that unfolds.
He's getting the perspective of people that work with him,
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and they're very smart people around him, but it is
all him it is his words. So you know, you
kind of see the way that Donald Trump works and operates,
and I don't think it's been done before with anyone
running for pressure for president in recent history for sure.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Justin do you get the sense that despite the seriousness,
the sense of history, the life and death situations, that
overall in this campaign Trump is having fun because that
seems to come across to a lot of people that
go to rallies and that do interviews with him, like
Tucker Off off stage. I mean, it comes across to
the viewer. What was it like behind the scenes. Does
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he just love this stuff?
Speaker 8 (48:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (48:30):
I was there with him in Phoenix yesterday. I was
there in New Mexico. You know, as he was walking
into the plane in New Mexico, you know he was
he was decked out, and you know it's pretty dramatic
when he comes up Trump for one, nobody does that.
But you know, he looked at us, gave us a
thumbs up, like, you know, he was proud of the
outfit he was wearing for that moment. And like he's
always dancing backstage, even when he's not in front of
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the crowds, He's he is having a good time. I
can only imagine I couldn't pull it off. I don't
know anyone that could. But his ability to just kind
of roll with it is uncanny. I mean, you know,
I don't know if we'll ever see anyone that's capable
of doing that. You know, he's back there before he
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takes the stage, editing his speeches, but he's not. In
many ways, he's just adding it to kind of just
add a little bit more not entertainment necessarily, but he's
making it more engaging, you know, as as anybody that's
trying to communicate with with voters should be doing. I
can't imagine the person he's running against is doing that backstage.
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I don't think she's written a single word of her speeches.
So you know, he's definitely engaged. He is not exhausted
or any of that. He's he's back there having fun,
shaking hands, wanting to take pictures. And you know we
captured in the documentary firsthand. But anybody that's kind of
been around his orbit in the last month or six
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months has seen that out of him for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Justin what about just the inexhaustible energy that Donald Trump
seems to possess even at seventy nine years old, and
we Buck and I have been fortunate to see him
a lot behind the scenes, and we've talked about this,
but after one of our interviews at mar A Lago,
he insisted that he wanted us to have milkshakes. Our
wives were there too, and he wanted us to wait
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because mar A Lago has the best milkshakes. What I
found that I'm curious, and we've seen him with his
grandchildren behind scenes. What I found, to mention you're earlier
analysis of dictatored him or whatnot, is that he's actually
a pretty likable, easy going guy outside of the public spotlight.
I'm curious if you saw that. And also to your point, Albuquerque, Phoenix,
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the travel schedule is crazy for anybody. Are you as
a much younger man, sometimes like, how does he have
this inexhaustible supply of energy?
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, I can do it, and I can see a
lot of my friends being able to do that. You know,
people in the media work long hours or whatnot, but
like you know, we all get exhausted after you know,
hours and hours grueling on something, but he just goes NonStop.
And you know, he was up yesterday at like six
in the morning, and then that was six in the
morning Eastern time, and then he wrapped up at I
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think it was like ten thirty pm, you know, out
in Phoenix, you know, so that's that's three hours earlier.
So I mean, he's putting in these long days that
I've never seen anything like it, and he's he's the
one that's not done.
Speaker 9 (51:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (51:24):
There are people around him that are probably like, Okay,
it's time to get back to the plane at the hotel,
and he's ready to see more people, take more pictures,
have more conversations, and in those conversations, you know, the
person you see kind of on stage and specifically in
the documentary is the same person that people interact with. It.
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It's not an act. He is very funny, he's he's
extremely likable, even if you you know people there there's
certain people that probably don't agree with his politics, but
if they actually got to know him and actually knew
what he was like as a person, as a father,
as the manager of the people that work for him,
I mean, I can't see how they could compare him
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to Kamala Harris and think that he's some sort of
you know, satanistic dictator or whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
They want to portray him as we speaking.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Of Justin Wells, he is the producer of Art of
the Surge, a documentary which you can watch on X.
I want to ask you about that, justin the Elon
factor in well probably the history of the world, but
also in this election, is profound just having X as
a true free speech platform that is a broad spectrum, right.
(52:38):
I mean, I know that you know, there's rumble, there's
there's truth, but those don't really reach outside of a
more center right audience, Whereas with X you still have
this tens of millions or hundreds of millions, however many
it is these days of active users a month, and
I just think it's interesting that not only has that
allowed for more robust exchange of ideas online going into
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this election that we saw in twenty twenty, but it
also is just the beginning, from what I understand, of
people using X as a platform in a whole range
of ways. I mean, why tell us about the choice
of putting out a documentary first and foremost on X
as the platform.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
I think it was important for a host of reasons.
When Tucker and I, you know, departed Fox or what not,
we went to X temporarily. He's since launched took across
a network in addition to that. But you know, what
we found with X, and what I found recently as well,
is they just have the scale to reach a huge
number of people. I think thirty percent of their audience
is independence. The rest is split amongst people on the
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left and the right as far as domestic American the
American audience there and when you see what happened to
Joe Rogan in his interview on YouTube with President Trump
just the other day. He's the biggest podcaster in the world.
And sure he's got a Spotify idea where he's allegedly protected,
but then you see that, you know, you can't even
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search for probably the most important consequential interview of the week,
if not the month, if not the entire election as
far as this race. People wanted to hear that interview,
and you know, YouTube made sure that you couldn't hear
that interview. And I think that that, you know, X
definitely serves a purpose as far as that, and and
(54:19):
somebody needs to move into that video space and YouTube
has been dominant for too long, but they're they're putting
their fingers on the scale clearly because they don't even
want you to find what you're searching for. So I
thought it was important to reach as many people as
possible before the election outside of a paywall, and I
felt the best way to do that and engage with
folks is on X. And I think that there's definitely
(54:44):
a seismic shift in the way X is perceived thanks
to a lot of what Elon is putting into the
platform and allowing creators like myself and others to put
forward there.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
Check it out. You can watch it at Art of
the Surge on X and also check out Art of
Thesurge dot com. Justin Wells Tucker Carlson's executive producer producer
of this brand new documentary series, Art of the Surge,
which I'm happy to be a part of. Justin, We
appreciate the time. I'm sure that through the election is
going to be a heck of a good thing to
be able to see.
Speaker 4 (55:17):
Absolutely, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it, good
to see it.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Awesome. That's Justin Wells doing a great job with that story,
which is going to have I think some historic residents,
especially as we sit here four days from the election,
right after the election early December. I'm going to be
headed to Israel to do the show live from Israel,
and Israeli citizens are preparing for another attack right now
in their country. Late last night, reports that came out
(55:42):
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