January 7, 2025 • 55 mins
Trump on Greenland. The Zuck-Up. We were right about everything. Drill baby, drill!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whoa, Welcome back to Clay and Buck. Is this for real? Guys?
We have a caller or do how do we verify this?
We have a caller who's in Greenland who listens to
this show? Is are we do we really think this
is real?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I mean, if it's not, then we've been I mean, well,
producer Greg is Well, let's bring him up like I
did you people, Let's have some fun with this, like
I might have to ask him what the capitol is
and we'll see how he does.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Christopher, you say you are calling us from Greenland.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yes, sir, from the town of Thesa.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That's no idea what you just said. But that makes
me what is what is the capital? And you've got
five seconds? What is the capital of Greenland? Nuke? Oh?
I think he's legit. Okay, sorry?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What's your background? How did you come to find the show?
Let's start there. And how often do you listen?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, I'm started listening to my father started listening a
few years ago, and then I fell in love with
the show and started listening a couple of times a week.
When I have tied well.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Can we say we have fallen in love with you?
Mister Greenland. This is amazing. We didn't know he had
any listening, right, So tell us about the culture of Greenland.
I was just asking you this amazing. But he wants
to tell us that he thinks the Trump thing is
a great is actually great, and that people are tired
of Denmark's socialist garbage. What's good? Tell us about this?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, a few weeks ago our Prime Minister of Greenland
he went to Denmark and he accuse Denmark of genoside.
So there's a lot of coruption with the Danish Danish government,
and we can't people in green They cannot sell a
fish they have, they have to sell it. They have
to get Danish poker who can sell her fish overseas.
(01:42):
So there's a lot there's a lot of coruptions things
like that in the government here, that people are fed
up with Denmark.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
If and obviously there are fifty five thousand people according
to Buck that live in Greenland. If people were voting
your analysis as a resident, and they were given the choice,
you can be a territory of the United States or
a territory of Denmark, how do you think the people
of Greenland would vote if they were given a.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Choice, I think most of them would go to America.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Vote for America. But there is also a lot of
people who married to Dan Danish men or Danish women,
so there is a big still a lot of people
love Denmark, know a lot of people up with Denmark,
so I don't know, but I do think most of
them would go towards America.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, please spread the word about playing buck in Greenland
and it'll help in this process as well of making
them even more fond of making Greenland great again. Thank
you so much, Christopher from Greenland. Man, that's a great dude.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Is there any way you guy can get me in
contact with Donald Trump Junior. I know it's a big thing,
but I've been trying to get get into contact with him.
I'm trying to come him a cup here to lose
that we're about two or a miles north of nukes.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, he listens to the show sometimes, so at least
that way you'll probably get to him and give the
producers your email and we'll see can keep in touch
with you as this green light thing moves along. Thanks
for calling in, Chris for appreciate you appreciate you listening
very much. That's great, dude. You know, we do have
our our overseas contingents far and wide for this show,
not including Canada, which is America, Junior. Let's be honest,
(03:15):
not that we're gonna make you the fifty first state Canada.
Too many Libs. We love you, but too many Libs.
But we have military bases all of the world, so
we get a lot of you know all we can
look on a map. We can see South Korea, Germany,
We've got people listening there, of course, and a lot
of other bases. But Clay, this is what Trump said.
Let's start with this. This is the press conference. He
spoke for an hour off the cuff, covered a lot
(03:37):
of stuff. I found the stuff you discussed about energy
and the just idiotic last minute Biden energy stuff that
he's doing, including trying to rope off all off like
six hundred thousand acres offshore drilling. We'll get to that
in a second, but first on the issue of Greenland
and the Panama Canal. This is how we started going.
(03:58):
This is cut twenty five. This is during the it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Can you assure the world that as you try to
get control of these areas.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
You are not going to use military or economic coercion.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
No, can you tell us a little bit about what
your plan is.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Are you going to negotiate a new treaty? Are you
going to ask the Canadians to hold the vote? What
is the strategy? I can't assure you. You're talking about
Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you either of
those two. But I can say this, we need them
for economic security. The Panama Canal was built for a
military I'm not going to commit to that now. It
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might be that you'll have to do something. Look, the
Panama Canal is vital to our country. It's being operated
by China. China, and we gave the Panama Canal to Panama.
We didn't give it to China, and they've abused it.
They've abused that gift that should have never been made.
By the way, giving the Panama Canal is why Jimmy
Carter lost the election.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
In my opinion, play they were starting to freak out.
You heard what he said there. He's like, look, I'm
not ruling anything out. Panama Canal is important.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But then he went on, look, I mean this is
what Trump does, and I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, it's almost like you need.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
A rational Trump translator. You never rule out anything. Why
would you rule out anything if you are the president
of the United States? Like his point is, China has
tried to exert increasing influence in many different foreign countries
around the world. And if you believe it wasn't how
long ago was it buck three years ago that the
Panama Canal was basically shut down because they had a
(05:30):
ship turned sideways and we had a major supply chain
crisis all over the world. Partly as a result, he
had all the shipping stacked up on the West coast.
We just had a strike on the East coast. I
don't understand why you would rule out anything that might
be necessary to ensure the free flow of goods in
America's ability to compete, in particular our sphere of influence.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And look, we just had the team looking it up.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Nineteen forty seven was the last time the United States
added territory.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
What for it basically hit all of history. This was
whether they die or you can't leave us.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I have according to our crack research staff, we added
some islands in the Pacific that were intended to provide
that were intended to provide more security in the Pacific,
in the Pacific region. And let me make sure that
I get this correct from our team, and now I
(06:32):
can't find it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
When do we add Guam? Good question? Good question? Eighteen
ninety eight. Yeah, that's Spanish American war. I mean, I
knew it was pretty recent, not quite nineteen forties. Reason
eighteen ninety eight, we and then the Guam Organic Act
of nineteen fifty conferred US citizenship on Guamanians and established
(06:55):
the territory's government. So yeah, later on was when they
kind of made it more official. But we've had the islands.
In eighteen nine, nineteen forty seven, Buck we added Pacific
Islands the last time inhabit they might have been uninhabited islands.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And whenever we talked like this, people say, well, we
added Alaska, And yeah, I know, I'm talking about those
territories had existed for a while. Seward bought Alaska in
the eighteen sixties. It didn't become a state for almost
one hundred years. But and I mentioned that I lived
in the US Virgin Islands, so I actually am as
people go, somewhat very familiar with territorial law. I used
(07:30):
to have to work in it, which is actually a
very fascinating aspect of United States law because you're not actually,
like when I lived in the US Virgin Islands, Virgin
Islanders are not allowed to vote for president, so you
have like a weird sort of citizenship aspect associated with
living in a place like that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, I think you could argue very convincingly that
some of the most important decisions ever made by any
presidential administration ever, you know, going up to the time
when we decided to be our own country and Washington
is trying to keep the army together and would be
land purchases. Yes, I mean, I think there's a strong
(08:07):
case we made that the Louisiana Louisiana purchase Louisiana Territory
from France, the purchase of it in eighteen oh three
by Jefferson might have been well, no, it was, I
mean the most consequential, important thing that Jefferson did for
the country, right. I mean you could say, yeah, his
hand in writing the founding documents too, But if you're
(08:28):
talking about a decision an action in office, I mean,
what could be bigger than I mean, it was, like
them probably the most amazing land deal anyone ever did
in the history of the world. Yes, and we talked
about that.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, then you had the Mexican War and the
and the addition of all the land in the Southwest.
So the point here, if you're asking, Okay, why is
this suddenly a topic, it's because the Arctic is becoming
more open for shipping and Greenland is seen as a
major point of transit where you're going to need to
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be able to resupply many different ships. And whether or
not you have free ingress and egress to Greenland could
be incredibly important when it comes to economic interest going forward,
not to mention, and this is why Alaska ended up
being such a brilliant purchase by Seward. He didn't know
it at the time. Maybe there were brilliant geologists out
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there who were whispering in his.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Ear some of this.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But the amount of natural resources that could be embedded,
as you mentioned in Greenland, not only in the country,
but also offshore, which is a big thing about what
Biden is doing now. Who has the right to drill
and take natural resources off the coast of many different
countries around the world. There is the expectation that there
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are massive amounts of oil and energy related assets that
are going to be uncovered as there are more melting
that occurs in that polarized ca A region. So it
could be the case that Greenland is just completely a
wash in natural resources which would otherwise not be taken
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advantage of by a country like Denmark. And it's also
funny when one of these countries is a territory of
another European country and people say, oh, well, what in
the world would you be thinking of? Why couldn't Greenland
be a territory of the United States, just like it's
a territory of Denmark, Which is why I was just
asking our caller how would people vote the fifty five
thousand people who live there. Would they rather be a
(10:30):
part of the United States under the auspices of our
protection and its natural rights as citizens who live in
a territory, or would they rather be under Denmark. I mean,
I don't know what the odds are, what the data says,
but I think it's very fascinating that Donald Trump Junior
is on the ground right now.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Could you imagine the electioneering, first of all, with fifty
five thousand people. I don't even know what the media
market is like in Nuke, which is the capital. But
this is like an election in a small town. For
I mean, the the acreage of Greenland. Just to give
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everybody a sense of it, I think on the it's
eight hundred and thirty six thousand square miles. Okay, it's
absolutely vast. It would be like a big piece of
It's essentially like the entire Midwest of the United States
if you were to put it out on it. So
it's like we'd be adding the entirety of the mid Now.
(11:27):
A lot of it is under ice. It is not
pleasant any month of the year really in some of
the especially as you get up north. Do I think
this is going to happen? No, is an interesting idea?
Is it worth maybe pursuing em? You know, maybe why not,
as long as it doesn't distract.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
From It's super interesting to me Bock just about the
idea of what Trump is looking for. This is not
a four year move. This is a four hundred year move, right,
Like the decision to make a move like this is
not predicate on Hey, this is going to pay off
in the short term. Again, I mean, I think Russia
the Alaska purchase is super interesting in this respect. Remember
(12:07):
it was called sewer folly. People ridiculed him for the choice.
It's now one of the most brilliant acquisitions that anybody
could have possibly made.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, I think it would make look if he could
pull it off, it would be absolutely brilliant. And I
just think it's outside the box thinking to do things
that would benefit the United States and its people is
just is appreciated, especially in light of the absolutely insane
stuff that Biden is doing. I mean, I'm sure you
talked about clave when I was out the presidential Metal
Freedom for George Soros. Yeah, you know, that's just a
(12:38):
that's a symbolic thing, but it's it's just gross and
even beyond that, you know, forget about sources political activities,
but he's what he's done as a speculator and currency
around the world. I mean, it's this devastated developing economy.
It's a horrible person. He's a terrible human being. But
the fact that they're trying to take all this acreage
off of production for oil offseas offshore is crazy and
(13:04):
it's just spiteful from Biden. We'll get some of your calls.
We have any other Greenland callers, that'd be kind of fun.
I think I might be asking for too much with
that one, but I'm totally blown away. I mean, it's
pretty awesome that we just had. There is a chance
just to prepare you. I'm gonna keep talking as long
as I can, but we're heading toward My voice actually
made just completely quit during the show. So the good
news is, Clay, we'll just take it from there. But
(13:24):
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Speaker 2 (15:20):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Thirteen days until Donald
Trump raises his right hand and becomes the next president
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
We cannot wait. We know you cannot wait either.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Decided to have bucked back with us after a big
trip to Spain. I'm still interested to hear how that
all went. We'll discuss that a bit. We got major
breaking news that came out this morning associated with Facebook,
the censorship industrial complex, and the overall impact that that created.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
We'll get to that in a moment, but first.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
We're both right in the Great Canal Debate of twenty
twenty five. In twenty twenty one, the Suez Canal was
blocked by a ship. So the crew was right about
the Suez Canal. And interestingly it was actually a Panamanian
based ship that blocked the Suez Canal. But what I
(16:15):
was thinking about was twenty twenty three. Last year, two
hundred ships got backed up as a part of the
overall supply chain crisis in the Panama Canal. We're discussing
this because much of Trump's discussion surrounding the Panama Canal
Greenland has been predicated on world trade and who has
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the ability to control control in some way the ingress
and egress of ships around the world for purposes of commerce.
Now for purposes of commerce. They're also and fact checking
is a major discussion point out there about Facebook and
buck In March of twenty twenty one, I went and
(16:58):
testified in front of COMNGRIS. Our friend Jim Jordan invited
me to come, and I went under oath and testified
as an expert about the impact of Facebook and what
happened when Facebook basically decided, hey, we don't like your
organization anymore. Overnight, our Facebook traffic basically vanished. And many
(17:22):
different media outlets that have been on quote the wrong
side of the stories that Facebook wanted to propagate have
dealt with this impact. In particular, we were too favorable
about Donald Trump, and we were too aggressive in covering
whether schools should open back up, whether masks worked, where
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COVID came from at OutKick, and as a result, Facebook
basically shut down traffic to our site and that had
a major impact. And let me just point this out
in Buck, because I think it's super important. Four years
ago in concert, Facebook, Twitter, Spotify, Snapchat, Instagram, Shopify, Reddit, Twitch, TikTok,
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and Pinterist all banned Donald Trump from being able to
have an account on their social networks.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
In Unison, Pinterest, I just that was I mean, I
don't know, probably can't put out his favorite his favorite
recipes or his favorite way of making sprinkles for cookies,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And if Donald Trump had wanted to get in the
oven mit business, Pinterist was just completely killing his oven
mit game. This was scary and it was crazy, and Buck,
you've talked about this. Not only did they do that,
they actually used Amazon to legitimately take sites off the
(18:52):
Internet that we're using. A lot of people don't realize this,
maybe some of you do. Amazon web hosting is one
of the biggest businesses they do. If somewhere won't host
your website, they basically just make you not exist. And
this is what they did back in the day to
what was my site.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
They did it to a parlor, yeah, which was a
free speech a free speech site, and no, this was scared.
This was the beginning of the of the true online
to atalitarianism that we had to live through. I mean
it was this, It was COVID, it was the election,
you know, election stuff. So it was frightening how this
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just worked all in Unison McLay I was looking up
I just found this. There was a PolitiFact on me.
Remember I was saying this before, and this was from
a Facebook post. And here's what I said in February
of twenty twenty one. The science says open the schools,
stop wearing masks outside. I should have just said stop
(19:58):
wearing masks, but stop wearing masks outside and everyone at
low risk should start living normal lives. And they fact
checked this and said the whole thing was was wrong.
It's all uh, masks outside. I mean we knew that
from the very beginning that that was always moronic. I mean,
no one was getting COVID outdoors. That never happened. It
was all absurd. I mean, it was they never I mean,
(20:19):
you know, like lightning strike, maybe it could happen, but
it was it was madness. So everything that they fact
checked me on they were I mean, they were wrong.
And they did this over and over again. By the
way that it's not like they just fact checked me, Clay.
They shut down my Facebook account. Yeah, based on that.
So I said, hey, guys, look at the look at
the numbers masks outdoors makes no sense. Oh no, that's
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a lie. You're off Facebook now. This is what they
were doing to pee. And they did this. I know
it's it's not like woe is me. I always hated Facebook.
It's not something I use very much. But they did
this to so many people. And what you realize was
that they were they were not only unrepentant about the
whole thing, they liked the fact that they could do
it to pee well, even when what they were fact show,
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even when they were pushing lies. Right, that's the real power.
The real power isn't to stop other people from lying.
The real powers to make other people lie or to
prevent other people from speaking the truth.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And that's got one. I've got one for you that
I testified about.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Buck. You'll appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
We had doctor Marty McCarey on this show quite a lot,
and he's now going to be the head of the CDC,
I think, which is an amazing congratulations doctor McCarey. It's
a great appointment. Appointment by Donald Trump. We wrote an
article at OutKick in March of twenty twenty one, and
it said it was Marty McCarey saying herd immunity will
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be here by April. This was doctor Martin McCarey, an
editorial at the Wall Street Journal. We wrote about that
on OutKick, and Facebook told us that we were guilty
of the headline was misinformation violations, and they said we
could not share the opinion piece of doctor McCarey on
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our Facebook account, and as a result, they banned the
sharing of OutKick stories for a set period of time
with no ability to in any way appeal there.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We shared an opinion piece from a doctor and and
just understand this, for those of you who have never
been in the yeah, you know, the media business, I
mean to be operating in this world. I mean, Clay
knows about this very well. But I started out working
at The Blaze. I was a website writer for Glenn
beck Att The Blaze. That was my first media job.
That was back in twenty eleven. Gosh, I can getting old, Clay,
uh So, I very much lived in that world too.
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Facebook was for a lot of a lot of big websites.
What would you say, Clay, thirty forty percent of traffic
was Facebook derived, sometimes higher depending on the hiring on
the side. Yeah, in the day. I mean huge amounts.
So I mean imagine, you know, if you're running a
hardware store and forty percent of your customers disappear forever,
You're not going to be in business very long, right,
(22:59):
I mean if you're used to a certain customer base
and forty percent of them are gone. Certainly true of
a online journalism or you know, news media entity as well.
So Facebook was able to kill off a lot of
conservative sites and a lot of traffic. And I mean
the damage, and I don't want to lose sight of this,
the damage that Zuckerberg whom you know, yeah, he's coming
(23:23):
around on. Can I just also put something out here
for a second. We need to stop worshiping people who
have been conservative for like five minutes or not even conservative,
who have stopped being crazy. You know, we can welcome
them into the ten without thinking they're the Messiah. You
know what I'm saying. This is a different thing. I mean,
I have noticed this trend on the right recently of oh,
(23:43):
someone has said a couple of the right things in
the last year, so now we love them forever. Some
of us have been saying the right thing for many years,
some cases many decades. Okay, so if you're looking for
like long term wisdom, I wouldn't all of a sudden
you know, you know, I don't know Russell brand is
he is he a great guy? Now? I have no idea,
but I think it's funny that people are like, oh
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my gosh, he's so conservative. I'm like, can we give
it a year, Like, let's just see how it goes first.
I mean, there's a lot of these people that I
would put in this category. And Mark Zuckerberg it just
makes me think of this clay because Okay, so he's
no longer actively subverting with Zuckerbucks going to Democrat causes
and massively undermining conservative message. You know, he's no longer
(24:26):
a huge, you know, enemy of free speech the same
way he was. But let's see what he does, do
you know what I'm saying, Like, it's one thing to
see this as good. It's another thing to think think, oh,
like the war is won, or oh yay, we can
trust this guy now. I'm still a little skeptical. Do
you see what I mean? Yeah, No, I mean I
(24:46):
totally get it. And this is what my wife said.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And we'll play these audio clips for you maybe when
we come back in a sec because I want to
really kind of dive into it. But there is no
recognition by and large of the people who were so
dramatically wrong on all of this that they were dramatically wrong.
And I would say that some form the twenty twenty
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four election is a referendum on how wrong many people
in the legacy media were. But all those people who
lectured us that we were going to be on the
wrong side of history if we voted for Trump, or
we were on the wrong side of history because we
weren't standing with our backs on the elevator with masks on,
or sitting in circles in parks, they just kind of vanished.
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They never really admitted by and large, hey, we were
wrong about everything. Zuckerberg's statement, which we're going to play
for you, will play one cut of it right here,
and then we'll play the other one for you coming back,
really is an endorsement of much of what we've said
on this program for the last four years. Zuckerberg admits
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that the government was artificially putting pressure on him to
curtail your and mine and everyone out there's free speech rights.
The government cannot use a third party to do what
it itself would otherwise not be constitutionally able to do.
That's what they did, and that's what we've been telling
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you that they did. Listen to Cut three, This is
Zuckerberg saying it's gone too far.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
First, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and
replace them with community notes similar to X. Starting in
the US, after Trump first got elected in twenty sixteen,
the legacy media wrote NonStop about how misinformation was a
threat to democracy. We tried in good faith to address
those concerns without becoming the arbiters of truth. But the
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fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have
destroyed more trusts than they've created, especially in the US.
So over the next couple of months, we're going to
phase in a more comprehensive community notes system.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, this is huge, buck, and we'll talk about all
the consequences of this. Will unpack basically Sockerberg statement will
play a bit more of it for you going forward.
But this is a seismic victory for those of us
who believe in a crazy idea. We should all be
able to argue and debate what we think the right
direction for the country is on every subject.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
It's certainly moving in the right direction, which is something
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Speaker 2 (28:41):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking
about all the different moving parts out there. The biggest
news of the day so far that Facebook has ended
its fact checking. Let me hit you with a couple
of more details about this decision.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We've talked about how it's impacted us, how it's impacted
businesses out there. They're also moving the so called fact
checking rubric, which will now be similar to what Twitter
did with community notes. They're moving it to Texas from California.
That is, all of the employees involved there will be
in Texas now. That I think is also significant because
(29:18):
it basically means this will be occurring under the auspices
of Texas law, which is more protective of free speech
rights than California law would be. So if Facebook is
sued over the way that they implement this, you would
have a more favorable jurisdiction in Texas by and large
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compared to elsewhere in California, for instance. But again, this
is very significant. It's a direct result of Trump winning.
So if you are out there and you're saying, would
this have happened if Kamala Harris had won the election,
I think the answer is no. Remember, Zuckerberg has been
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to dinner with Trump at mar A Lago. He has
pledged on behalf of Facebook a million dollars for the inauguration.
He has described Trump's response to the assassination as badass.
I am told that the relationship between Trump and Zuckerberg
on a personal level has become much better. And Zuckerberg
(30:20):
now says he's going to work with Donald Trump to
fight the censorship industrial complex. This was a part of
the statement that he released. Me also reminds you they
now have a Republican, former Republican staffer in charge of
all their government affairs, and you know where they announced
this new policy. Buck on Fox News this morning on
(30:45):
Fox and Friends, probably with the idea being that President Trump,
who watches Fox News all the time, was likely to
have been watching. But here is Mark Zuckerberg cut forward
talking about working with Trump going forward.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
We're gonna work with President Trump to push back on
governments around the world. They're going after American companies and
pushing to censor more. Europe has an ever increasing number
of laws institutionalizing censorship and making it difficult to build
anything innovative there. Latin American countries have secret courts that
can order companies to quietly take things down.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
China has sensored of apps.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
From even working in the country. The only way that
we can push back on this global trend is with
the support of the US government. And that's why it's
been so difficult over the past four years. When even
the US government has pushed for censorship by going after
US and other American companies, it has emboldened other governments
to go even.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Further block We were right about everything. Trump was right
about everything, and this is as close to an acknowledgment
that he was wrong about the way that Facebook handled
censorship as you're ever going to see from Mark Zuckerberg. Now,
my wife and I've bet a lot of you out
there are still angry about this, and you want more
of a of a final resolution maybe than what you've gotten,
(32:06):
more consequences. But I think this is about as good
as you're going to get from an American CEO.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yes, I also think though it's fair to point out that, yeah,
you know, now he's all about free speech and free
expression after getting it wrong, and when the political wins
favor it. I mean, there's a lot of there's a
lot of advantage right now with the incoming Trump administration
(32:32):
to take this position. I'm just saying, I don't think
that what Mark Zuckerber's doing. Mark Zuckerberg is doing here
is in any way brave or even rooted in principle.
I think that it is somewhat cunning and political, as in,
he understands that this is in the interest of Facebook
right now, and so he's doing it. You know, he
(32:56):
has gone through some changes recently. You know, he does
kind of dress like a guy in a nineties movie
who would be like selling ecstasy outside of a nightclub
now or something. I mean, you know, he's changed up
a lot. He's a little different than he used to be,
does a little bit of jiu jitsu, you know, a
little more of a bro than he used to be.
So maybe he is truly a little bit more right wing.
(33:18):
And I will also say this, I don't ever want
to discount that I think people have learned the left
became very, very assertive and very powerful as a result
of COVID in a way, as particularly online, in a
way that I think allowed them to show us their
absolute worst impulses and the worst side of who they
(33:41):
are as people and who they are ideologically. And I
think it scared a lot of folks. And I think
more than that, the results for the country were disastrous.
The results of the increased power and assertiveness of the
left online and in real life were horrific and and
just took us into the land of crazy town. And
(34:03):
so the pushback to that is in earnest right. So
I think there are a lot of people who have
been red pilled truly because of what has happened. I
totally see that, you know, I think Mark Zuckerberg, we
just got to take it a little bit step by step. Here,
We'll see. I mean, I haven't forgotten all the times
when I was trying to get the word out about
what was true, you know, sharing Bearnson articles, Alex Parentson articles,
(34:26):
things like that on Facebook, and just it was maddening.
You get these like strikes, you get these shutdowns and
the whole thing, and you could say the most insane
stuff that the Democrats approve of, and you would never
get anything. And it was a very you know Orwellian
nineteen eighty four existence that we all had then at
a time when it really mattered and it really counted. So,
(34:48):
you know, COVID was the stress test, and social media
absolutely failed us. We need to change the structures now
such that that will never happen again.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And remember, all we're trying to do is just say
you should be able to debate topics freely without people
parachuting in and deciding to become arbiters of what's true
or false. That the line between fact and opinion is
one of the most difficult lines I think for any
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media company to try to finesse, because what we should
have is a very strict understanding of what fact is.
For instance, if Buck, if I came on today and
I said, hey, you know what I think water actually
freezes at thirty five degrees. You might sit there and
listen and be like, Okay, but you're wrong. Water freezes
(35:38):
at thirty two degrees. If I came on with you
and I said, hey, based on looking at this forecast,
Texas is going to get slammed. I think if I
had some meteorological meteorological knowledge, for sure, I think that
it's actually going to be colder than people expect, and
they're going to get way more snow than what the
forecast are forecasting.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's an opinion, right, So, and I.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Use that because a lot of this fact checking was
fact checking opinion and actually saying your opinion is wrong,
for instance. And this is one that I think is
so key. Where did COVID come from? We still don't know.
I think one reason we don't officially know is because
they curtailed our ability to actually examine that in the
(36:21):
immediate aftermath of COVID. Right, I think the evidence supports
that COVID came from a Chinese lab. Some of you
may disagree and believe that it was zoonotic in origin,
that is, animal based in origin, but the fact that
we weren't able to actually have that debate actually contributed
to our inability to determine the real truth, and the
(36:43):
entire fabric of a Democrat republic is we should all
be able to thoroughly argue our own opinions and get
the best results.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
To the other thing though, And this is what I
think was so so totalitarian about what happened at Facebook
and Twitter. Let me just say, I know some of
you aren't very active. A lot of you aren't very
active on social media, and by the way, it probably
makes your lives better. So congratulations, and I mean that.
But I don't think Donald Trump loses. Don't tell me, oh,
(37:14):
but he won, you know what I mean. I don't
think Joe Biden ever becomes president without the social media
censorship and deeplatforming and hiding Hunter laptop story, et cetera
that occurred. Okay, so I think that Donald Trump would
be ending his second term right now. So in a sense,
maybe you're kind of like, well, at least be at
four years of Trump now. Fine, But I think that
without that they wouldn't have been able to pull off
(37:37):
what they did in twenty twenty, all other things being equal,
I think that that was a deciding factor and really
a form of cheating a form of, you know, weighing
the scales down artificially in favor of Biden. So that's
a major part of this. But Clay also we're talking
about what they they're fact checking was things that they
(38:00):
said were untrue that were true, and things that they
insisted were true were clearly untrue. I mean, remember that
Elon decided that he had to buy and again, apologies
for my voice, folks keeps getting worse. Elon decided that
he had to buy Twitter basically because of a joke
the Babylon be made about a man costuming as a
(38:24):
woman who was getting the like who they gave the
Man of the Year award too, because he had received
the Woman of the Year award. And so the Facebook
censorship regime was such that you had to refer to
a trans woman as a man or a trans man
as a woman, right, So what I'm saying is it
was mandatory lies, and mandatory lies is the ultimate power.
(38:46):
If you can get people to lie at will, you
can get them to do absolutely anything. So there was
tremendous harm that Facebook and these other platforms were involved
and perpetrating, of course, in the name of preventing harmage
by the way is true of all totalitarians. I mean,
if you were to sit down with the Kim dynasty
in North Korea, they have a million different ways of
(39:07):
telling you what they do is necessary to prevent the
destruction of their country, and it's all lies.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I'm just catching up. I hadn't even seen the dollar
figure I saw you share this. This all ties in
with how everything is changing with the Trump win. Amazon
gave forty million dollars for the Milannia Trump documentary.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yes, holy cow, that's Michelle Obama kind of money. You
know what I mean, No, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
But I mean, to the point we're making about suddenly
Elon led the Charge, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Tim Cook at Apple,
a lot of these other executives that are very wealthy
and very powerful leading to companies in twenty sixteen, There's
no way they would have signed on for a forty
million dollar Milania Trump documentary. This is the same stuff,
(39:57):
whether you like it or not. To your point that
a Michelle Obama would be getting when she gets a
you know, she writes a book and she gets a
twenty million dollar advance, or the Obamas have a Netflix
deal and they're making like, you know, some mediocre movie,
but they get hundreds of millions of dollars in order
to invest in that, or even Megan markele who continues
(40:20):
to get tons of money. Netflix, I know has got
some new Megan markel documentary. But this is a vibe
shift in seismic ways. And I think what Mark Zuckerberg
is saying publicly is what a lot of tech CEOs
are feeling privately.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
And I think you have to give a lot of
credit to.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Elon because he has charged to up the hill to
such an extent. He took all the shrapnel, he took
all the oncoming fire, and it hasn't dented him. And
a lot of people, let's be honest, want to be
behind the first wave. They're very they're very comfortable being
in the second or third wave after all of the
major fighting has already taken place. Look at Zuckerberg saying, Hey,
(41:02):
we're just gonna basically take the community notes program that
Elon Musk already took put in place and started to
work through the kink sub at Facebook. Now, this is
what an election win does, and this is what win
in the popular vote does, and we should be enjoying it.
Because it's about as much validation as you're gonna get.
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Or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back into Clay
and Buck and my own mind. Trump put on quite
a show, quite a show today in this press conference.
I want to take some of your calls here eight
hundred two A two two eight a two. Also, we
kicked off the question earlier, and I know a lot
(42:47):
of the VIPs. Clay, I've already been weighing on this.
Should I watch Land Man. I'm gonna tell you some
of you got a little mad at me, at least
on Twitter, because I thought that Yellowstone it jumped the shark.
It was a classic jump the shark. I'm sorry, I'm right.
I enjoyed the show. It was always extremely unrealistic and
kind of but I really enjoyed it anyway. It was
(43:08):
a lot of fun, super popular or whatever. But the
but the last season, the Kevin Coster thing, it just
didn't It didn't get and I don't like the way
it ended anyway. You can get mad at me, It's fine,
but be honest with yourself, like the show didn't end
the way it should have. The last season was is
You're right? It was a mediocre in the at best. Yeah, yeah, media,
I mean it was real kind of you know, womp, womp.
(43:31):
You know, it wasn't great, but we did. I have
been hearing from people that Landman is absolutely fantastic, and
we have we're talking about energy and oil and uh
there's a speech that our team pulled from that I
think ties into Trump's attitude today, which is just like, can
we America is the global global energy superpower? We need
(43:55):
to remember this. We talked so much about you know,
oh ai and our information based my without our natural resources,
none of this is happening, okay. Without the oil and
natural gas that America produces, our lifestyle, the strength of
the dollar, all that, we're living in a whole different universe, everybody,
all right, if we had like some barren landscape that
(44:17):
didn't have the natural resources that we do, we would
be in a very very different position. And it's where
it's it's it's critical to remember that. And the Democrats,
it's just like it's almost like a civilizational death wish
that they have, like they want us to be living
in poverty and misery because we're easier to control or something.
It's insane. This is the speech from land Man where
(44:39):
he goes into, yeah, we need oil. Everybody get with
the program, play it.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
We have one hundred and twenty year petroleum based infrastructure.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Our whole lives depend on it. And hell, it's in
everything that road we.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
Came in on the wheels on ever car every night,
including yours, sent tennis, rackets and lipstick, and refrigerators and
anti histamines, pretty much any thing plastic, your cell phones.
We're gonna run out of it before we find its replacement.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
It's the thing that's gonna kill us all as a species.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
No, the thing is gonna kill us all is running
out before we find an alternative.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
So Clay, I don't know how much they heard because
we hadn't f bomb in there.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But this, uh, this show is basically taking you into
the Texas oil field and explaining the significance of everything
in the oil and gas industry to a lot of
people that otherwise wouldn't see it. And I would say,
this is one thing that Taylor show.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Is one thing. Half of half of the oil production
goes into products. That's what people need. We think of
it so much for what goes into our cars. Half
of petroleum goes into plastics, jelly creams, you know, you
(46:02):
know all these different things. I mean, there's so much
and this idea that we're going to replace it with,
you know, with windmills, you want ai you want electric cars,
you want all these things. We are so far from
being able to power that with wind and solar it's laughable.
And wind and solar and they get into this too,
requires a whole lot of plastics and chips and things
(46:26):
that require a whole lot of petroleum. It's just this
is this is where the left is insane. I mean,
this is where they just don't meet with reality. It's
a religion for them. We criticize the finale of Yellowstone.
This is well, I'll come back and give some praise.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Taylor shared in has been a fantastic producer of new
television shows, and he gets this in that on his
shows he often will allow a liberal perspective on the environment.
He did this with yellow Stone, where they had the
uh sort of left wing activist protesting against against ranches
(47:07):
and cattle and the entire Montana industry there. And here
he's got a woman who's out there making and sharing
left wing arguments. You said something that I think is
really important, and I try to win this argument in
my house that it doesn't necessarily go that well. Recycling
is almost one worthless. Whatever we spend on recycling actually
(47:34):
causes more use of energy to collate the recyclable materials
than just throwing things away and building things anew very often,
so the time that you spend going out and putting
your papers in one recyclable bin and your plastics in another,
and all this stuff is almost entirely worthless and doesn't
(47:57):
make any difference at all for the larger environment.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
I just want to say it. It's the truth. It's
like no one will talk about it.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
And the other thing that this landman thing does a
great job of is everything that is supposed to be
renewable energy, whether it's solar panels, whether it's windmills, all
of it requires more energy than the energy energy that
we have now.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
And this is also hugely important.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
When we don't use American oil and gas, we're actually
having to go and consume the oil and gas which
is actually less environmentally friendly that's produced by foreign governments
that often don't support basic human rights.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So this is you've got a real window into the
mindset of all this. With the Keystone Excel pipeline and
with the Keystone Excel pipeline. What you saw was even
by the Obama administration's own State Department review. The oil's
coming out of the ground. It's just a question of
(48:57):
do a pipe it west for the Asian market or
do you pipe it across the US and we get
benefit from the transit fees and also just from you know,
secure access to energy that is going to be going
to a US port. And even though this is the
key thing, the CO two impact is going to be
the same either way. We just don't want to sully.
(49:20):
The Obama administration shuts down the keystonoxil pipeline because they
don't want to sully their hands with it. That's so
it's not even about the environment. It's I don't want
to be involved with the dirty oil stuff. And so
even though it's not going to change anything, we shouldn't
benefit from it. Again, it's it's this is like, you know,
it's like a religious thing. It's like, you know, I
can't touch this, uh, you know, this form of food
(49:42):
because I'm told that it's dirty or it's bad. I mean,
there's no scientific basis for this.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Let me climb out my soapbox again. All the people
that are worried about the environment and recycling and all
this stuff. They should actually be having kids because the
real threat to the world going forward is global mass
population collapse. So this is very often what happens with humans.
(50:07):
We get fixated on dangers that aren't actually the dangers
that we should be worried about, and we ignore this
looming danger that is far more significant, which is and
these people are the number one PI. If you have
convinced yourself that the world is going to end because
of climate change, you're unlikely to have kids, and so
(50:29):
all these people buck. If you look at the trajectories
of population over the next eighty years or so, the
global population is going to collapse by about half over
the next eighty two one hundred years based on the
data that we have right now. That's the real threat
to human civilization. In many of these most advanced countries Italy, Japan,
(50:51):
where they have incredible cultures and civilizations, they're actually collapsing
the fastest. That is, the most advanced civilized societies, which
have the greatest history, are the ones that are declining
on the most rapid fashion.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Also. But look for bringing it back to Biden and
the executive order in the closing days. I mean, it's
just so the whole thing's so pathetic to try and
stop offshore oil from being explored in these areas. You know,
this is going on, and it goes on all the
world and it's fine and it's safe. It would be
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like saying we can't have an airline industry because occasionally
there's an airline crash, and that's effectively what you're doing.
What is the problem with the offshore drilling. The problem
with the offshore drilling, they'll tell you is well, there
can be an there can be an accident. Okay, well
that's true of a lot of things. And so really
what it is is they just don't want They don't
(51:45):
want to do it because they have an ideological aversion
oil bad. It's like a child. They don't think about
it beyond that oil bad. Don't do oil. And you
go a whold on a second, you need oil, we
all need oil, and they go, yeah, but oil bad,
No offshore drilling. It's like the mob mentality for people
(52:07):
who have replaced actual belief in God with belief in
Mother Earth.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Do you remember the big story which a lot of
people don't even get of what was producing the electricity
that was going to be funding providing the juice for
so many electric vehicles. In one part, I think it
was Michigan. It was a coal plant, so they were
going to be increasing the amount of coal that they
were using so that they could provide the electricity to
charge vehicles. And people said, you know, actually, it would
(52:34):
be far more efficient from an economic perspective if we
just use gas as opposed to using coal to create
electric charging opportunities. So, look, a lot of these people
don't want to go into the actual details behind it.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
It doesn't work. It's actually not a very big threat
for the world. In fact, it's.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I'm not sure it's in the top twenty things that
I care about right now. And and I understand that
a lot of people have bought into this idea. Oh
my goodness, you know, rising seas, we're going to die. Yeah,
we're not.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Well, what you touch on is a unique thing about this,
this the climate climate issue, whatever they however you want
to talk. Remember, they were calling a climate catastrophe for
a while. That was what they were trying to say,
and that doesn't really work for them. And that's after
they went from global warming to climate changes. We all know, Oh,
climate disruption. I'm sorry, that's what it was, climate disruption. Usually, Clay,
we disagree with the others. There's we can agree there's
(53:27):
a problem, and we disagree about how to fix the problem.
Like we can agree that there's you know, there's too
much crime, and we say, well, the criminals are the problems,
the criminal justice system coddling them, and they say no,
it's guns, and their argument is garbage. But whatever with this,
there's no problem, correct, Like they think there's a problem.
I don't see a problem at all. And that's why
it's really hard to even have a conversation with them.
(53:49):
And then they say like, well, you're bought off by
big oil, which is delusional, right, because clearly that's not
you know, that sounds great. I wish, but I'm not.
I we're happy to do it, but so far we
haven't been bought up by bigger If Exxon wants to
start doing live reads, we'll do exon live reies, no problem.
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Whoa, Welcome back to Clay and Buck. Is this for real? Guys?
We have a caller or do how do we verify this?
We have a caller who's in Greenland who listens to
this show? Is are we do we really think this
is real?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I mean, if it's not, then we've been I mean, well,
producer Greg is Well, let's bring him up like I
did you people, Let's have some fun with this, like
I might have to ask him what the capitol is
and we'll see how he does.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Christopher, you say you are calling us from Greenland.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yes, sir, from the town of Thesa.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
That's no idea what you just said. But that makes
me what is what is the capital? And you've got
five seconds? What is the capital of Greenland? Nuke? Oh?
I think he's legit. Okay, sorry?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What's your background? How did you come to find the show?
Let's start there. And how often do you listen?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Well, I'm started listening to my father started listening a
few years ago, and then I fell in love with
the show and started listening a couple of times a week.
When I have tied well.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Can we say we have fallen in love with you?
Mister Greenland. This is amazing. We didn't know he had
any listening, right, So tell us about the culture of Greenland.
I was just asking you this amazing. But he wants
to tell us that he thinks the Trump thing is
a great is actually great, and that people are tired
of Denmark's socialist garbage. What's good? Tell us about this?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, a few weeks ago our Prime Minister of Greenland
he went to Denmark and he accuse Denmark of genoside.
So there's a lot of coruption with the Danish Danish government,
and we can't people in green They cannot sell a
fish they have, they have to sell it. They have
to get Danish poker who can sell her fish overseas.
(01:42):
So there's a lot there's a lot of coruptions things
like that in the government here, that people are fed
up with Denmark.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
If and obviously there are fifty five thousand people according
to Buck that live in Greenland. If people were voting
your analysis as a resident, and they were given the choice,
you can be a territory of the United States or
a territory of Denmark, how do you think the people
of Greenland would vote if they were given a.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Choice, I think most of them would go to America.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Vote for America. But there is also a lot of
people who married to Dan Danish men or Danish women,
so there is a big still a lot of people
love Denmark, know a lot of people up with Denmark,
so I don't know, but I do think most of
them would go towards America.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, please spread the word about playing buck in Greenland
and it'll help in this process as well of making
them even more fond of making Greenland great again. Thank
you so much, Christopher from Greenland. Man, that's a great dude.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Is there any way you guy can get me in
contact with Donald Trump Junior. I know it's a big thing,
but I've been trying to get get into contact with him.
I'm trying to come him a cup here to lose
that we're about two or a miles north of nukes.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, he listens to the show sometimes, so at least
that way you'll probably get to him and give the
producers your email and we'll see can keep in touch
with you as this green light thing moves along. Thanks
for calling in, Chris for appreciate you appreciate you listening
very much. That's great, dude. You know, we do have
our our overseas contingents far and wide for this show,
not including Canada, which is America, Junior. Let's be honest,
(03:15):
not that we're gonna make you the fifty first state Canada.
Too many Libs. We love you, but too many Libs.
But we have military bases all of the world, so
we get a lot of you know all we can
look on a map. We can see South Korea, Germany,
We've got people listening there, of course, and a lot
of other bases. But Clay, this is what Trump said.
Let's start with this. This is the press conference. He
spoke for an hour off the cuff, covered a lot
(03:37):
of stuff. I found the stuff you discussed about energy
and the just idiotic last minute Biden energy stuff that
he's doing, including trying to rope off all off like
six hundred thousand acres offshore drilling. We'll get to that
in a second, but first on the issue of Greenland
and the Panama Canal. This is how we started going.
(03:58):
This is cut twenty five. This is during the it.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Can you assure the world that as you try to
get control of these areas.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
You are not going to use military or economic coercion.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
No, can you tell us a little bit about what
your plan is.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Are you going to negotiate a new treaty? Are you
going to ask the Canadians to hold the vote? What
is the strategy? I can't assure you. You're talking about
Panama and Greenland. No, I can't assure you either of
those two. But I can say this, we need them
for economic security. The Panama Canal was built for a
military I'm not going to commit to that now. It
(04:34):
might be that you'll have to do something. Look, the
Panama Canal is vital to our country. It's being operated
by China. China, and we gave the Panama Canal to Panama.
We didn't give it to China, and they've abused it.
They've abused that gift that should have never been made.
By the way, giving the Panama Canal is why Jimmy
Carter lost the election.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
In my opinion, play they were starting to freak out.
You heard what he said there. He's like, look, I'm
not ruling anything out. Panama Canal is important.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But then he went on, look, I mean this is
what Trump does, and I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I mean, it's almost like you need.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
A rational Trump translator. You never rule out anything. Why
would you rule out anything if you are the president
of the United States? Like his point is, China has
tried to exert increasing influence in many different foreign countries
around the world. And if you believe it wasn't how
long ago was it buck three years ago that the
Panama Canal was basically shut down because they had a
(05:30):
ship turned sideways and we had a major supply chain
crisis all over the world. Partly as a result, he
had all the shipping stacked up on the West coast.
We just had a strike on the East coast. I
don't understand why you would rule out anything that might
be necessary to ensure the free flow of goods in
America's ability to compete, in particular our sphere of influence.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And look, we just had the team looking it up.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Nineteen forty seven was the last time the United States
added territory.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
What for it basically hit all of history. This was
whether they die or you can't leave us.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I have according to our crack research staff, we added
some islands in the Pacific that were intended to provide
that were intended to provide more security in the Pacific,
in the Pacific region. And let me make sure that
I get this correct from our team, and now I
(06:32):
can't find it.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
When do we add Guam? Good question? Good question? Eighteen
ninety eight. Yeah, that's Spanish American war. I mean, I
knew it was pretty recent, not quite nineteen forties. Reason
eighteen ninety eight, we and then the Guam Organic Act
of nineteen fifty conferred US citizenship on Guamanians and established
(06:55):
the territory's government. So yeah, later on was when they
kind of made it more official. But we've had the islands.
In eighteen nine, nineteen forty seven, Buck we added Pacific
Islands the last time inhabit they might have been uninhabited islands.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
And whenever we talked like this, people say, well, we
added Alaska, And yeah, I know, I'm talking about those
territories had existed for a while. Seward bought Alaska in
the eighteen sixties. It didn't become a state for almost
one hundred years. But and I mentioned that I lived
in the US Virgin Islands, so I actually am as
people go, somewhat very familiar with territorial law. I used
(07:30):
to have to work in it, which is actually a
very fascinating aspect of United States law because you're not actually,
like when I lived in the US Virgin Islands, Virgin
Islanders are not allowed to vote for president, so you
have like a weird sort of citizenship aspect associated with
living in a place like that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I mean, I think you could argue very convincingly that
some of the most important decisions ever made by any
presidential administration ever, you know, going up to the time
when we decided to be our own country and Washington
is trying to keep the army together and would be
land purchases. Yes, I mean, I think there's a strong
(08:07):
case we made that the Louisiana Louisiana purchase Louisiana Territory
from France, the purchase of it in eighteen oh three
by Jefferson might have been well, no, it was, I
mean the most consequential, important thing that Jefferson did for
the country, right. I mean you could say, yeah, his
hand in writing the founding documents too, But if you're
(08:28):
talking about a decision an action in office, I mean,
what could be bigger than I mean, it was, like
them probably the most amazing land deal anyone ever did
in the history of the world. Yes, and we talked
about that.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, then you had the Mexican War and the
and the addition of all the land in the Southwest.
So the point here, if you're asking, Okay, why is
this suddenly a topic, it's because the Arctic is becoming
more open for shipping and Greenland is seen as a
major point of transit where you're going to need to
(09:01):
be able to resupply many different ships. And whether or
not you have free ingress and egress to Greenland could
be incredibly important when it comes to economic interest going forward,
not to mention, and this is why Alaska ended up
being such a brilliant purchase by Seward. He didn't know
it at the time. Maybe there were brilliant geologists out
(09:22):
there who were whispering in his.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Ear some of this.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But the amount of natural resources that could be embedded,
as you mentioned in Greenland, not only in the country,
but also offshore, which is a big thing about what
Biden is doing now. Who has the right to drill
and take natural resources off the coast of many different
countries around the world. There is the expectation that there
(09:48):
are massive amounts of oil and energy related assets that
are going to be uncovered as there are more melting
that occurs in that polarized ca A region. So it
could be the case that Greenland is just completely a
wash in natural resources which would otherwise not be taken
(10:08):
advantage of by a country like Denmark. And it's also
funny when one of these countries is a territory of
another European country and people say, oh, well, what in
the world would you be thinking of? Why couldn't Greenland
be a territory of the United States, just like it's
a territory of Denmark, Which is why I was just
asking our caller how would people vote the fifty five
thousand people who live there. Would they rather be a
(10:30):
part of the United States under the auspices of our
protection and its natural rights as citizens who live in
a territory, or would they rather be under Denmark. I mean,
I don't know what the odds are, what the data says,
but I think it's very fascinating that Donald Trump Junior
is on the ground right now.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Could you imagine the electioneering, first of all, with fifty
five thousand people. I don't even know what the media
market is like in Nuke, which is the capital. But
this is like an election in a small town. For
I mean, the the acreage of Greenland. Just to give
(11:06):
everybody a sense of it, I think on the it's
eight hundred and thirty six thousand square miles. Okay, it's
absolutely vast. It would be like a big piece of
It's essentially like the entire Midwest of the United States
if you were to put it out on it. So
it's like we'd be adding the entirety of the mid Now.
(11:27):
A lot of it is under ice. It is not
pleasant any month of the year really in some of
the especially as you get up north. Do I think
this is going to happen? No, is an interesting idea?
Is it worth maybe pursuing em? You know, maybe why not,
as long as it doesn't distract.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
From It's super interesting to me Bock just about the
idea of what Trump is looking for. This is not
a four year move. This is a four hundred year move, right,
Like the decision to make a move like this is
not predicate on Hey, this is going to pay off
in the short term. Again, I mean, I think Russia
the Alaska purchase is super interesting in this respect. Remember
(12:07):
it was called sewer folly. People ridiculed him for the choice.
It's now one of the most brilliant acquisitions that anybody
could have possibly made.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, I think it would make look if he could
pull it off, it would be absolutely brilliant. And I
just think it's outside the box thinking to do things
that would benefit the United States and its people is
just is appreciated, especially in light of the absolutely insane
stuff that Biden is doing. I mean, I'm sure you
talked about clave when I was out the presidential Metal
Freedom for George Soros. Yeah, you know, that's just a
(12:38):
that's a symbolic thing, but it's it's just gross and
even beyond that, you know, forget about sources political activities,
but he's what he's done as a speculator and currency
around the world. I mean, it's this devastated developing economy.
It's a horrible person. He's a terrible human being. But
the fact that they're trying to take all this acreage
off of production for oil offseas offshore is crazy and
(13:04):
it's just spiteful from Biden. We'll get some of your calls.
We have any other Greenland callers, that'd be kind of fun.
I think I might be asking for too much with
that one, but I'm totally blown away. I mean, it's
pretty awesome that we just had. There is a chance
just to prepare you. I'm gonna keep talking as long
as I can, but we're heading toward My voice actually
made just completely quit during the show. So the good
news is, Clay, we'll just take it from there. But
(13:24):
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Patriots Radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis
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Speaker 2 (15:20):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. Thirteen days until Donald
Trump raises his right hand and becomes the next president
of the United States.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
We cannot wait. We know you cannot wait either.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Decided to have bucked back with us after a big
trip to Spain. I'm still interested to hear how that
all went. We'll discuss that a bit. We got major
breaking news that came out this morning associated with Facebook,
the censorship industrial complex, and the overall impact that that created.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
We'll get to that in a moment, but first.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
We're both right in the Great Canal Debate of twenty
twenty five. In twenty twenty one, the Suez Canal was
blocked by a ship. So the crew was right about
the Suez Canal. And interestingly it was actually a Panamanian
based ship that blocked the Suez Canal. But what I
(16:15):
was thinking about was twenty twenty three. Last year, two
hundred ships got backed up as a part of the
overall supply chain crisis in the Panama Canal. We're discussing
this because much of Trump's discussion surrounding the Panama Canal
Greenland has been predicated on world trade and who has
(16:35):
the ability to control control in some way the ingress
and egress of ships around the world for purposes of commerce.
Now for purposes of commerce. They're also and fact checking
is a major discussion point out there about Facebook and
buck In March of twenty twenty one, I went and
(16:58):
testified in front of COMNGRIS. Our friend Jim Jordan invited
me to come, and I went under oath and testified
as an expert about the impact of Facebook and what
happened when Facebook basically decided, hey, we don't like your
organization anymore. Overnight, our Facebook traffic basically vanished. And many
(17:22):
different media outlets that have been on quote the wrong
side of the stories that Facebook wanted to propagate have
dealt with this impact. In particular, we were too favorable
about Donald Trump, and we were too aggressive in covering
whether schools should open back up, whether masks worked, where
(17:43):
COVID came from at OutKick, and as a result, Facebook
basically shut down traffic to our site and that had
a major impact. And let me just point this out
in Buck, because I think it's super important. Four years
ago in concert, Facebook, Twitter, Spotify, Snapchat, Instagram, Shopify, Reddit, Twitch, TikTok,
(18:08):
and Pinterist all banned Donald Trump from being able to
have an account on their social networks.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
In Unison, Pinterest, I just that was I mean, I
don't know, probably can't put out his favorite his favorite
recipes or his favorite way of making sprinkles for cookies,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And if Donald Trump had wanted to get in the
oven mit business, Pinterist was just completely killing his oven
mit game. This was scary and it was crazy, and Buck,
you've talked about this. Not only did they do that,
they actually used Amazon to legitimately take sites off the
(18:52):
Internet that we're using. A lot of people don't realize this,
maybe some of you do. Amazon web hosting is one
of the biggest businesses they do. If somewhere won't host
your website, they basically just make you not exist. And
this is what they did back in the day to
what was my site.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
They did it to a parlor, yeah, which was a
free speech a free speech site, and no, this was scared.
This was the beginning of the of the true online
to atalitarianism that we had to live through. I mean
it was this, It was COVID, it was the election,
you know, election stuff. So it was frightening how this
(19:35):
just worked all in Unison McLay I was looking up
I just found this. There was a PolitiFact on me.
Remember I was saying this before, and this was from
a Facebook post. And here's what I said in February
of twenty twenty one. The science says open the schools,
stop wearing masks outside. I should have just said stop
(19:58):
wearing masks, but stop wearing masks outside and everyone at
low risk should start living normal lives. And they fact
checked this and said the whole thing was was wrong.
It's all uh, masks outside. I mean we knew that
from the very beginning that that was always moronic. I mean,
no one was getting COVID outdoors. That never happened. It
was all absurd. I mean, it was they never I mean,
(20:19):
you know, like lightning strike, maybe it could happen, but
it was it was madness. So everything that they fact
checked me on they were I mean, they were wrong.
And they did this over and over again. By the
way that it's not like they just fact checked me, Clay.
They shut down my Facebook account. Yeah, based on that.
So I said, hey, guys, look at the look at
the numbers masks outdoors makes no sense. Oh no, that's
(20:41):
a lie. You're off Facebook now. This is what they
were doing to pee. And they did this. I know
it's it's not like woe is me. I always hated Facebook.
It's not something I use very much. But they did
this to so many people. And what you realize was
that they were they were not only unrepentant about the
whole thing, they liked the fact that they could do
it to pee well, even when what they were fact show,
(21:01):
even when they were pushing lies. Right, that's the real power.
The real power isn't to stop other people from lying.
The real powers to make other people lie or to
prevent other people from speaking the truth.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And that's got one. I've got one for you that
I testified about.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Buck. You'll appreciate this.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
We had doctor Marty McCarey on this show quite a lot,
and he's now going to be the head of the CDC,
I think, which is an amazing congratulations doctor McCarey. It's
a great appointment. Appointment by Donald Trump. We wrote an
article at OutKick in March of twenty twenty one, and
it said it was Marty McCarey saying herd immunity will
(21:40):
be here by April. This was doctor Martin McCarey, an
editorial at the Wall Street Journal. We wrote about that
on OutKick, and Facebook told us that we were guilty
of the headline was misinformation violations, and they said we
could not share the opinion piece of doctor McCarey on
(22:04):
our Facebook account, and as a result, they banned the
sharing of OutKick stories for a set period of time
with no ability to in any way appeal there.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
We shared an opinion piece from a doctor and and
just understand this, for those of you who have never
been in the yeah, you know, the media business, I
mean to be operating in this world. I mean, Clay
knows about this very well. But I started out working
at The Blaze. I was a website writer for Glenn
beck Att The Blaze. That was my first media job.
That was back in twenty eleven. Gosh, I can getting old, Clay,
uh So, I very much lived in that world too.
(22:39):
Facebook was for a lot of a lot of big websites.
What would you say, Clay, thirty forty percent of traffic
was Facebook derived, sometimes higher depending on the hiring on
the side. Yeah, in the day. I mean huge amounts.
So I mean imagine, you know, if you're running a
hardware store and forty percent of your customers disappear forever,
You're not going to be in business very long, right,
(22:59):
I mean if you're used to a certain customer base
and forty percent of them are gone. Certainly true of
a online journalism or you know, news media entity as well.
So Facebook was able to kill off a lot of
conservative sites and a lot of traffic. And I mean
the damage, and I don't want to lose sight of this,
the damage that Zuckerberg whom you know, yeah, he's coming
(23:23):
around on. Can I just also put something out here
for a second. We need to stop worshiping people who
have been conservative for like five minutes or not even conservative,
who have stopped being crazy. You know, we can welcome
them into the ten without thinking they're the Messiah. You
know what I'm saying. This is a different thing. I mean,
I have noticed this trend on the right recently of oh,
(23:43):
someone has said a couple of the right things in
the last year, so now we love them forever. Some
of us have been saying the right thing for many years,
some cases many decades. Okay, so if you're looking for
like long term wisdom, I wouldn't all of a sudden
you know, you know, I don't know Russell brand is
he is he a great guy? Now? I have no idea,
but I think it's funny that people are like, oh
(24:04):
my gosh, he's so conservative. I'm like, can we give
it a year, Like, let's just see how it goes first.
I mean, there's a lot of these people that I
would put in this category. And Mark Zuckerberg it just
makes me think of this clay because Okay, so he's
no longer actively subverting with Zuckerbucks going to Democrat causes
and massively undermining conservative message. You know, he's no longer
(24:26):
a huge, you know, enemy of free speech the same
way he was. But let's see what he does, do
you know what I'm saying, Like, it's one thing to
see this as good. It's another thing to think think, oh,
like the war is won, or oh yay, we can
trust this guy now. I'm still a little skeptical. Do
you see what I mean? Yeah, No, I mean I
(24:46):
totally get it. And this is what my wife said.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And we'll play these audio clips for you maybe when
we come back in a sec because I want to
really kind of dive into it. But there is no
recognition by and large of the people who were so
dramatically wrong on all of this that they were dramatically wrong.
And I would say that some form the twenty twenty
(25:10):
four election is a referendum on how wrong many people
in the legacy media were. But all those people who
lectured us that we were going to be on the
wrong side of history if we voted for Trump, or
we were on the wrong side of history because we
weren't standing with our backs on the elevator with masks on,
or sitting in circles in parks, they just kind of vanished.
(25:34):
They never really admitted by and large, hey, we were
wrong about everything. Zuckerberg's statement, which we're going to play
for you, will play one cut of it right here,
and then we'll play the other one for you coming back,
really is an endorsement of much of what we've said
on this program for the last four years. Zuckerberg admits
(25:55):
that the government was artificially putting pressure on him to
curtail your and mine and everyone out there's free speech rights.
The government cannot use a third party to do what
it itself would otherwise not be constitutionally able to do.
That's what they did, and that's what we've been telling
(26:15):
you that they did. Listen to Cut three, This is
Zuckerberg saying it's gone too far.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
First, we're going to get rid of fact checkers and
replace them with community notes similar to X. Starting in
the US, after Trump first got elected in twenty sixteen,
the legacy media wrote NonStop about how misinformation was a
threat to democracy. We tried in good faith to address
those concerns without becoming the arbiters of truth. But the
(26:41):
fact checkers have just been too politically biased and have
destroyed more trusts than they've created, especially in the US.
So over the next couple of months, we're going to
phase in a more comprehensive community notes system.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, this is huge, buck, and we'll talk about all
the consequences of this. Will unpack basically Sockerberg statement will
play a bit more of it for you going forward.
But this is a seismic victory for those of us
who believe in a crazy idea. We should all be
able to argue and debate what we think the right
direction for the country is on every subject.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
It's certainly moving in the right direction, which is something
to be happy about for now, or be encouraged by
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Speaker 2 (28:41):
Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're talking
about all the different moving parts out there. The biggest
news of the day so far that Facebook has ended
its fact checking. Let me hit you with a couple
of more details about this decision.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We've talked about how it's impacted us, how it's impacted
businesses out there. They're also moving the so called fact
checking rubric, which will now be similar to what Twitter
did with community notes. They're moving it to Texas from California.
That is, all of the employees involved there will be
in Texas now. That I think is also significant because
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it basically means this will be occurring under the auspices
of Texas law, which is more protective of free speech
rights than California law would be. So if Facebook is
sued over the way that they implement this, you would
have a more favorable jurisdiction in Texas by and large
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compared to elsewhere in California, for instance. But again, this
is very significant. It's a direct result of Trump winning.
So if you are out there and you're saying, would
this have happened if Kamala Harris had won the election,
I think the answer is no. Remember, Zuckerberg has been
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to dinner with Trump at mar A Lago. He has
pledged on behalf of Facebook a million dollars for the inauguration.
He has described Trump's response to the assassination as badass.
I am told that the relationship between Trump and Zuckerberg
on a personal level has become much better. And Zuckerberg
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now says he's going to work with Donald Trump to
fight the censorship industrial complex. This was a part of
the statement that he released. Me also reminds you they
now have a Republican, former Republican staffer in charge of
all their government affairs, and you know where they announced
this new policy. Buck on Fox News this morning on
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Fox and Friends, probably with the idea being that President Trump,
who watches Fox News all the time, was likely to
have been watching. But here is Mark Zuckerberg cut forward
talking about working with Trump going forward.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
We're gonna work with President Trump to push back on
governments around the world. They're going after American companies and
pushing to censor more. Europe has an ever increasing number
of laws institutionalizing censorship and making it difficult to build
anything innovative there. Latin American countries have secret courts that
can order companies to quietly take things down.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
China has sensored of apps.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
From even working in the country. The only way that
we can push back on this global trend is with
the support of the US government. And that's why it's
been so difficult over the past four years. When even
the US government has pushed for censorship by going after
US and other American companies, it has emboldened other governments
to go even.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Further block We were right about everything. Trump was right
about everything, and this is as close to an acknowledgment
that he was wrong about the way that Facebook handled
censorship as you're ever going to see from Mark Zuckerberg. Now,
my wife and I've bet a lot of you out
there are still angry about this, and you want more
of a of a final resolution maybe than what you've gotten,
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more consequences. But I think this is about as good
as you're going to get from an American CEO.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yes, I also think though it's fair to point out that, yeah,
you know, now he's all about free speech and free
expression after getting it wrong, and when the political wins
favor it. I mean, there's a lot of there's a
lot of advantage right now with the incoming Trump administration
(32:32):
to take this position. I'm just saying, I don't think
that what Mark Zuckerber's doing. Mark Zuckerberg is doing here
is in any way brave or even rooted in principle.
I think that it is somewhat cunning and political, as in,
he understands that this is in the interest of Facebook
right now, and so he's doing it. You know, he
(32:56):
has gone through some changes recently. You know, he does
kind of dress like a guy in a nineties movie
who would be like selling ecstasy outside of a nightclub
now or something. I mean, you know, he's changed up
a lot. He's a little different than he used to be,
does a little bit of jiu jitsu, you know, a
little more of a bro than he used to be.
So maybe he is truly a little bit more right wing.
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And I will also say this, I don't ever want
to discount that I think people have learned the left
became very, very assertive and very powerful as a result
of COVID in a way, as particularly online, in a
way that I think allowed them to show us their
absolute worst impulses and the worst side of who they
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are as people and who they are ideologically. And I
think it scared a lot of folks. And I think
more than that, the results for the country were disastrous.
The results of the increased power and assertiveness of the
left online and in real life were horrific and and
just took us into the land of crazy town. And
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so the pushback to that is in earnest right. So
I think there are a lot of people who have
been red pilled truly because of what has happened. I
totally see that, you know, I think Mark Zuckerberg, we
just got to take it a little bit step by step. Here,
We'll see. I mean, I haven't forgotten all the times
when I was trying to get the word out about
what was true, you know, sharing Bearnson articles, Alex Parentson articles,
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things like that on Facebook, and just it was maddening.
You get these like strikes, you get these shutdowns and
the whole thing, and you could say the most insane
stuff that the Democrats approve of, and you would never
get anything. And it was a very you know Orwellian
nineteen eighty four existence that we all had then at
a time when it really mattered and it really counted. So,
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you know, COVID was the stress test, and social media
absolutely failed us. We need to change the structures now
such that that will never happen again.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
And remember, all we're trying to do is just say
you should be able to debate topics freely without people
parachuting in and deciding to become arbiters of what's true
or false. That the line between fact and opinion is
one of the most difficult lines I think for any
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media company to try to finesse, because what we should
have is a very strict understanding of what fact is.
For instance, if Buck, if I came on today and
I said, hey, you know what I think water actually
freezes at thirty five degrees. You might sit there and
listen and be like, Okay, but you're wrong. Water freezes
(35:38):
at thirty two degrees. If I came on with you
and I said, hey, based on looking at this forecast,
Texas is going to get slammed. I think if I
had some meteorological meteorological knowledge, for sure, I think that
it's actually going to be colder than people expect, and
they're going to get way more snow than what the
forecast are forecasting.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
That's an opinion, right, So, and I.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Use that because a lot of this fact checking was
fact checking opinion and actually saying your opinion is wrong,
for instance. And this is one that I think is
so key. Where did COVID come from? We still don't know.
I think one reason we don't officially know is because
they curtailed our ability to actually examine that in the
(36:21):
immediate aftermath of COVID. Right, I think the evidence supports
that COVID came from a Chinese lab. Some of you
may disagree and believe that it was zoonotic in origin,
that is, animal based in origin, but the fact that
we weren't able to actually have that debate actually contributed
to our inability to determine the real truth, and the
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entire fabric of a Democrat republic is we should all
be able to thoroughly argue our own opinions and get
the best results.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
To the other thing though, And this is what I
think was so so totalitarian about what happened at Facebook
and Twitter. Let me just say, I know some of
you aren't very active. A lot of you aren't very
active on social media, and by the way, it probably
makes your lives better. So congratulations, and I mean that.
But I don't think Donald Trump loses. Don't tell me, oh,
(37:14):
but he won, you know what I mean. I don't
think Joe Biden ever becomes president without the social media
censorship and deeplatforming and hiding Hunter laptop story, et cetera
that occurred. Okay, so I think that Donald Trump would
be ending his second term right now. So in a sense,
maybe you're kind of like, well, at least be at
four years of Trump now. Fine, But I think that
without that they wouldn't have been able to pull off
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what they did in twenty twenty, all other things being equal,
I think that that was a deciding factor and really
a form of cheating a form of, you know, weighing
the scales down artificially in favor of Biden. So that's
a major part of this. But Clay also we're talking
about what they they're fact checking was things that they
(38:00):
said were untrue that were true, and things that they
insisted were true were clearly untrue. I mean, remember that
Elon decided that he had to buy and again, apologies
for my voice, folks keeps getting worse. Elon decided that
he had to buy Twitter basically because of a joke
the Babylon be made about a man costuming as a
(38:24):
woman who was getting the like who they gave the
Man of the Year award too, because he had received
the Woman of the Year award. And so the Facebook
censorship regime was such that you had to refer to
a trans woman as a man or a trans man
as a woman, right, So what I'm saying is it
was mandatory lies, and mandatory lies is the ultimate power.
(38:46):
If you can get people to lie at will, you
can get them to do absolutely anything. So there was
tremendous harm that Facebook and these other platforms were involved
and perpetrating, of course, in the name of preventing harmage
by the way is true of all totalitarians. I mean,
if you were to sit down with the Kim dynasty
in North Korea, they have a million different ways of
(39:07):
telling you what they do is necessary to prevent the
destruction of their country, and it's all lies.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I'm just catching up. I hadn't even seen the dollar
figure I saw you share this. This all ties in
with how everything is changing with the Trump win. Amazon
gave forty million dollars for the Milannia Trump documentary.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yes, holy cow, that's Michelle Obama kind of money. You
know what I mean, No, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
But I mean, to the point we're making about suddenly
Elon led the Charge, Zuckerberg, Bezos, Tim Cook at Apple,
a lot of these other executives that are very wealthy
and very powerful leading to companies in twenty sixteen, There's
no way they would have signed on for a forty
million dollar Milania Trump documentary. This is the same stuff,
(39:57):
whether you like it or not. To your point that
a Michelle Obama would be getting when she gets a
you know, she writes a book and she gets a
twenty million dollar advance, or the Obamas have a Netflix
deal and they're making like, you know, some mediocre movie,
but they get hundreds of millions of dollars in order
to invest in that, or even Megan markele who continues
(40:20):
to get tons of money. Netflix, I know has got
some new Megan markel documentary. But this is a vibe
shift in seismic ways. And I think what Mark Zuckerberg
is saying publicly is what a lot of tech CEOs
are feeling privately.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
And I think you have to give a lot of
credit to.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Elon because he has charged to up the hill to
such an extent. He took all the shrapnel, he took
all the oncoming fire, and it hasn't dented him. And
a lot of people, let's be honest, want to be
behind the first wave. They're very they're very comfortable being
in the second or third wave after all of the
major fighting has already taken place. Look at Zuckerberg saying, Hey,
(41:02):
we're just gonna basically take the community notes program that
Elon Musk already took put in place and started to
work through the kink sub at Facebook. Now, this is
what an election win does, and this is what win
in the popular vote does, and we should be enjoying it.
Because it's about as much validation as you're gonna get.
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Or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back into Clay
and Buck and my own mind. Trump put on quite
a show, quite a show today in this press conference.
I want to take some of your calls here eight
hundred two A two two eight a two. Also, we
kicked off the question earlier, and I know a lot
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of the VIPs. Clay, I've already been weighing on this.
Should I watch Land Man. I'm gonna tell you some
of you got a little mad at me, at least
on Twitter, because I thought that Yellowstone it jumped the shark.
It was a classic jump the shark. I'm sorry, I'm right.
I enjoyed the show. It was always extremely unrealistic and
kind of but I really enjoyed it anyway. It was
(43:08):
a lot of fun, super popular or whatever. But the
but the last season, the Kevin Coster thing, it just
didn't It didn't get and I don't like the way
it ended anyway. You can get mad at me, It's fine,
but be honest with yourself, like the show didn't end
the way it should have. The last season was is
You're right? It was a mediocre in the at best. Yeah, yeah, media,
I mean it was real kind of you know, womp, womp.
(43:31):
You know, it wasn't great, but we did. I have
been hearing from people that Landman is absolutely fantastic, and
we have we're talking about energy and oil and uh
there's a speech that our team pulled from that I
think ties into Trump's attitude today, which is just like, can
we America is the global global energy superpower? We need
(43:55):
to remember this. We talked so much about you know,
oh ai and our information based my without our natural resources,
none of this is happening, okay. Without the oil and
natural gas that America produces, our lifestyle, the strength of
the dollar, all that, we're living in a whole different universe, everybody,
all right, if we had like some barren landscape that
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didn't have the natural resources that we do, we would
be in a very very different position. And it's where
it's it's it's critical to remember that. And the Democrats,
it's just like it's almost like a civilizational death wish
that they have, like they want us to be living
in poverty and misery because we're easier to control or something.
It's insane. This is the speech from land Man where
(44:39):
he goes into, yeah, we need oil. Everybody get with
the program, play it.
Speaker 7 (44:43):
We have one hundred and twenty year petroleum based infrastructure.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Our whole lives depend on it. And hell, it's in
everything that road we.
Speaker 7 (44:51):
Came in on the wheels on ever car every night,
including yours, sent tennis, rackets and lipstick, and refrigerators and
anti histamines, pretty much any thing plastic, your cell phones.
We're gonna run out of it before we find its replacement.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
It's the thing that's gonna kill us all as a species.
Speaker 7 (45:09):
No, the thing is gonna kill us all is running
out before we find an alternative.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
So Clay, I don't know how much they heard because
we hadn't f bomb in there.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But this, uh, this show is basically taking you into
the Texas oil field and explaining the significance of everything
in the oil and gas industry to a lot of
people that otherwise wouldn't see it. And I would say,
this is one thing that Taylor show.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Is one thing. Half of half of the oil production
goes into products. That's what people need. We think of
it so much for what goes into our cars. Half
of petroleum goes into plastics, jelly creams, you know, you
(46:02):
know all these different things. I mean, there's so much
and this idea that we're going to replace it with,
you know, with windmills, you want ai you want electric cars,
you want all these things. We are so far from
being able to power that with wind and solar it's laughable.
And wind and solar and they get into this too,
requires a whole lot of plastics and chips and things
(46:26):
that require a whole lot of petroleum. It's just this
is this is where the left is insane. I mean,
this is where they just don't meet with reality. It's
a religion for them. We criticize the finale of Yellowstone.
This is well, I'll come back and give some praise.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Taylor shared in has been a fantastic producer of new
television shows, and he gets this in that on his
shows he often will allow a liberal perspective on the environment.
He did this with yellow Stone, where they had the
uh sort of left wing activist protesting against against ranches
(47:07):
and cattle and the entire Montana industry there. And here
he's got a woman who's out there making and sharing
left wing arguments. You said something that I think is
really important, and I try to win this argument in
my house that it doesn't necessarily go that well. Recycling
is almost one worthless. Whatever we spend on recycling actually
(47:34):
causes more use of energy to collate the recyclable materials
than just throwing things away and building things anew very often,
so the time that you spend going out and putting
your papers in one recyclable bin and your plastics in another,
and all this stuff is almost entirely worthless and doesn't
(47:57):
make any difference at all for the larger environment.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
I just want to say it. It's the truth. It's
like no one will talk about it.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
And the other thing that this landman thing does a
great job of is everything that is supposed to be
renewable energy, whether it's solar panels, whether it's windmills, all
of it requires more energy than the energy energy that
we have now.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
And this is also hugely important.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
When we don't use American oil and gas, we're actually
having to go and consume the oil and gas which
is actually less environmentally friendly that's produced by foreign governments
that often don't support basic human rights.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So this is you've got a real window into the
mindset of all this. With the Keystone Excel pipeline and
with the Keystone Excel pipeline. What you saw was even
by the Obama administration's own State Department review. The oil's
coming out of the ground. It's just a question of
(48:57):
do a pipe it west for the Asian market or
do you pipe it across the US and we get
benefit from the transit fees and also just from you know,
secure access to energy that is going to be going
to a US port. And even though this is the
key thing, the CO two impact is going to be
the same either way. We just don't want to sully.
(49:20):
The Obama administration shuts down the keystonoxil pipeline because they
don't want to sully their hands with it. That's so
it's not even about the environment. It's I don't want
to be involved with the dirty oil stuff. And so
even though it's not going to change anything, we shouldn't
benefit from it. Again, it's it's this is like, you know,
it's like a religious thing. It's like, you know, I
can't touch this, uh, you know, this form of food
(49:42):
because I'm told that it's dirty or it's bad. I mean,
there's no scientific basis for this.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Let me climb out my soapbox again. All the people
that are worried about the environment and recycling and all
this stuff. They should actually be having kids because the
real threat to the world going forward is global mass
population collapse. So this is very often what happens with humans.
(50:07):
We get fixated on dangers that aren't actually the dangers
that we should be worried about, and we ignore this
looming danger that is far more significant, which is and
these people are the number one PI. If you have
convinced yourself that the world is going to end because
of climate change, you're unlikely to have kids, and so
(50:29):
all these people buck. If you look at the trajectories
of population over the next eighty years or so, the
global population is going to collapse by about half over
the next eighty two one hundred years based on the
data that we have right now. That's the real threat
to human civilization. In many of these most advanced countries Italy, Japan,
(50:51):
where they have incredible cultures and civilizations, they're actually collapsing
the fastest. That is, the most advanced civilized societies, which
have the greatest history, are the ones that are declining
on the most rapid fashion.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
Also. But look for bringing it back to Biden and
the executive order in the closing days. I mean, it's
just so the whole thing's so pathetic to try and
stop offshore oil from being explored in these areas. You know,
this is going on, and it goes on all the
world and it's fine and it's safe. It would be
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like saying we can't have an airline industry because occasionally
there's an airline crash, and that's effectively what you're doing.
What is the problem with the offshore drilling. The problem
with the offshore drilling, they'll tell you is well, there
can be an there can be an accident. Okay, well
that's true of a lot of things. And so really
what it is is they just don't want They don't
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want to do it because they have an ideological aversion
oil bad. It's like a child. They don't think about
it beyond that oil bad. Don't do oil. And you
go a whold on a second, you need oil, we
all need oil, and they go, yeah, but oil bad,
No offshore drilling. It's like the mob mentality for people
(52:07):
who have replaced actual belief in God with belief in
Mother Earth.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Do you remember the big story which a lot of
people don't even get of what was producing the electricity
that was going to be funding providing the juice for
so many electric vehicles. In one part, I think it
was Michigan. It was a coal plant, so they were
going to be increasing the amount of coal that they
were using so that they could provide the electricity to
charge vehicles. And people said, you know, actually, it would
(52:34):
be far more efficient from an economic perspective if we
just use gas as opposed to using coal to create
electric charging opportunities. So, look, a lot of these people
don't want to go into the actual details behind it.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
It doesn't work. It's actually not a very big threat
for the world. In fact, it's.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
I'm not sure it's in the top twenty things that
I care about right now. And and I understand that
a lot of people have bought into this idea. Oh
my goodness, you know, rising seas, we're going to die. Yeah,
we're not.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
Well, what you touch on is a unique thing about this,
this the climate climate issue, whatever they however you want
to talk. Remember, they were calling a climate catastrophe for
a while. That was what they were trying to say,
and that doesn't really work for them. And that's after
they went from global warming to climate changes. We all know, Oh,
climate disruption. I'm sorry, that's what it was, climate disruption. Usually, Clay,
we disagree with the others. There's we can agree there's
(53:27):
a problem, and we disagree about how to fix the problem.
Like we can agree that there's you know, there's too
much crime, and we say, well, the criminals are the problems,
the criminal justice system coddling them, and they say no,
it's guns, and their argument is garbage. But whatever with this,
there's no problem, correct, Like they think there's a problem.
I don't see a problem at all. And that's why
it's really hard to even have a conversation with them.
(53:49):
And then they say like, well, you're bought off by
big oil, which is delusional, right, because clearly that's not
you know, that sounds great. I wish, but I'm not.
I we're happy to do it, but so far we
haven't been bought up by bigger If Exxon wants to
start doing live reads, we'll do exon live reies, no problem.
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