Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jan 21 2025

Epic night. Trump EOs. Culture shift. Julie Kelly on J6 pardons.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
In the Trump Administration two point zero kicks off right now.
We are very excited to be with all of you.
I have returned to South Florida. Clay is still in
our nation's capital. I would say we were out late partying,

(00:23):
but that would be untrue because I went to bed
early because I'm boring Clay. However, was rocking out. Clay
and the lovely miss Laura. We're having a fantastic time.
Karen and I had an early flight. The celebrations, the
feeling all across DC was incredible. It was indeed electric.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
It was a tremendous outpouring of both relief and joy.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Big things have happened last twenty four hours. We will
lay out much of that for you. Momentarily. You have
the pardoning, partnering or commutation of J six individuals. Well,
he's just pardon them, right, So it's just parting across
the board. So the partning of J six individuals, which

(01:12):
was a you know, emotional We'll talk to Julie Kelly
about that. In the second hour, Trump coming out of
the gates, Clay with a lot we should get to
all these executive orders. That's the main, the mainstay of
what policy has been put into effect already, designating the
cartels as a foreign terrorist organization, creating the Department of

(01:32):
Government Efficiency, declaring a national emergency at the southern border,
pardoning about fifteen hundred j six prisoners, signing an executive
order for clarification to define on birthright citizenship, just on
and on and on. Trump was a machine. You saw
him late night last night. What was it like, Clay,
How are you feeling about everything? I feel like we've

(01:53):
hit the ground, not just running, but in a dead
sprint with this Trump team.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Trump's a machine, and I think even his most zealous
and ardent critics would have to acknowledge the difference in
vibe between Trump yesterday and today. He's having another press
conference at four o'clock Eastern and the entire Biden last
several years, for sure, is staggering. This is not hyperbole, Buck.

(02:22):
I think that Trump has done more press availability and
more answering of unscripted questions already than Biden did in
the last year. As he was signing his executive orders,
he was accepting questions from inside of the Oval Office
about the choices that he was making. Last night, at

(02:42):
the Commander in Chief ball, Trump came out around I
think it was around eleven PM, maybe ten thirty Eastern.
He then came out at the Liberty Ball sometime after
eleven close to midnight, then went to a third different
inaugural ball last night, and he started his day pre

(03:02):
dawn in DC. So we're talking about a guy going
nearly twenty four hours straight. Buck, he took the mic,
he addressed the thousands of people at both of those
inaugural balls, and I believe Fox News carried that commentary live.
I've never seen anything like it. And more importantly, I

(03:25):
think Buck, he's making all the right decisions, and he
understands that he's really got And I know we talk
about eighteen months. I know we talk about two years
until the midterms where you're guaranteed to have the House
and the Senate, but really out of the gate on
the dead fast sprint, he's got six months. Right by
the time you get to the summer, it's likely that

(03:47):
things get bogged down. Really, he needs this first six
months to get absolutely the country put on the right
foot and establishing the dominance of what this can be.
And I think they realize they don't have a lot
of time to spare, and so they're going full bore.
And I just think it's incredible and it's you know,
both so socially culturally everywhere it was. It's amazing to

(04:10):
see also the switch in corporate America totally, how it's
no longer acceptable to to exclude or denigrate half of
the country for a lot some companies are still doing
it for a lot of big companies. Even saw some
sponsors last night at Sundy's inaugural balls that you absolutely
would not have seen before. So there has been a

(04:34):
massive cultural alongside the political shift. But let's get to
the pardons for a moment here at Clay because for
a lot of people, you know, this is a big
promise made and a big promise kept. J six prisoners
were treated completely unfairly by the d C, as Julie
Kelly calls it, the DC gulag system. People locked up

(04:56):
for far longer than you know, other instances of people
getting into a riot situation with police, people locked up
for completely non violent crimes long, I mean, lives destroyed.
Here is Trump last night pardoning. This has cut four
partying about fifteen hundred j six prisoners.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
First, we have a.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
List of partners and commutations relating to the best occurred.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
On January sixth, twenty two, and how many people.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Are in this. I think this order will apply in
possibly fifteen hundred.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Peoples, so this is January sixth. These are the usage, Yes,
approximately fifteen hundred for a partner full part. We'll partner
commutations full part. We have about six commutations in there. Well,
we're doing further research, so this is a big one.

(05:46):
Anything you will explain about this. We hope they get them.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
We hope they come out tonight.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Frankly, it was almost all pardons. I was right in
the beginning actually when I said pardons slash commutations. There
were some commutations meaning people have been let out of prison,
but they haven't necessarily had their entire conviction and every all,
you know, we're all clear on this. Clemency means your
punishment is reduced. Usually it means you're let out of prison.

(06:12):
Pardon means it's like you were never convicted. For legal purposes,
you get all of your rights back, you're not considered
a convicted felon. And obviously you're released if you were
in a car soral situation. So Clay, can you imagine
these and also the stakes of this election for these
individuals and their families.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
It was lives ruined or lives save for Donald Trump
to win. It's the one hundred percent right decision. As
you mentioned, we're going to talk to Julie Kelly. I'm
proud that of many different media outlets, I think we
have shined a spotlight on this even when it wasn't
very popular to do. I donated my own money to
legal defense funds for jan six. Whatever you thought about

(06:55):
the decisions. And look, we said, hey, don't riot, don't trespass,
don't commit violations. But the whole purpose of the criminal
justice system is to treat like crimes in a like manner.
And the fact that Democrats protected anybody arrested and even
provided bail money for anybody arrested during BLM and there

(07:16):
were virtually no consequences there for a four or five
months period when the entire country was under siege, when
many of the cities in your states were burning down,
when there were protesters taking over large swaths of American cities,
while all the rest of people were being told you
can't go say goodbye to your grandma and grandpa who

(07:37):
are dying in the hospital with COVID. Suddenly doctor Fauci
comes out and says, well, we can have hundreds of
thousands of people marching through the streets. I think that
was the beginning of many people out there saying this
whole COVID eras bs but buck. To me, what is
significant here is if the media is being honest based

(07:57):
on the way Trump pardoned Hunter and then five of
his brothers and sisters a Hunter. Yeah, based on the
way that that happened, there's no way they can criticize
anything associated with what Trump's doing with the January sixth individuals,
because this is not directly self interested for him, unlike Biden,

(08:19):
protecting himself and his family in an incredibly i think
unseemly manner that even CNN was saying as a stain
on his legacy, and I don't think Biden has much
of a legacy to start with.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Well, it's also grotesque for purely political motivation to go
after people for a nonviolent crime of trespass, as other
members of al Qaeda or something. I mean, to send
correct BI teams to go into their homes early in
the morning, arrest them, humiliate them, destroy their lives. They're

(08:51):
jasics defendants who ended up committing suicide because they felt
their lives were destroyed. And for that to be the
case after or the summer of twenty twenty, which you mentioned,
where there were BLM riots supported and encouraged from the
very top of the Democrat Party, including kamal Or, raising
money for defendants all across the country. This was happening

(09:15):
and for almost no punishments that we can think of
or that we can remember. Nobody was getting and there
were horrible things being done to cops all the time,
Rocks being thrown at them, punches thrown, things like that.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I mean, that's just.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Another day at a BLM riot. But the politics were
different and the Democrat Party was angry and mobilized, and
so the rules were different. Well not anymore, so that's
a big one, but there's a lot of big ones
that were signed by the president and he really, I
think it's important here, Clay really set the tone right away.

(09:49):
I mean, just for mind everybody. Biden came into office
and he tried to stop all deportations for one hundred days,
do you remember that. Oh, yes, just so everybody can
see what a difference an election can make.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
And yes, elections do have consequences.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Joe Biden comes in and effectively decides that the border is.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Wide open, or should be wide open. He then ended
up kicking it wide open later on. But that's something
that I think you can just look at to see
what a different approach you have from Trump and from
Biden from the get go, one rule of law, the
other selling out the country and doing so in a

(10:31):
way that is so egregious that it's going to take
all of Trump's team and time for the next four
years to try to make things, if not right, at
least to turn things around and.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Start to make things orderly again and lawful again at
the border. So we shall see.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
But Clay, I have to say the yes, it was
just it was fun to be there and to spend
time with you and the team and see a lot
of our friends in media at all of that, but
also so the substance I think has really set the tone.
This is an opening salvo absolutely worthy of Trump's second term,

(11:09):
that is setting exactly the right tone. Not only that
as good as Trump is going to be having already
been in DC before. I think the team that he
surrounded himself with is such a huge difference. We'll see
whether we still have the usual crazy drama from inside,
all the anonymous sources.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
The media unreliable as they.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Are, or as I tend to think, will there be
disputes and disagreements in the White House one hundred percent.
You've got really difficult decisions, and you've got people advocating
for different perspectives, and sometimes those perspectives they go public.
But I just think the elite level of talent surrounding
him is a dream team of sorts compared to what

(11:53):
he had in seventeen And Trump knows what he wants
to do, I think, from an executive perspective, far better
now than he did when he came in in seventeen.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Buck Also, I think if for anybody who is considering,
or what was considering, working for Trump in this term,
look what they did to Trump and he still came
through and won.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yep, what's the worst they're gonna do? If you work
for Trump, They're gonna prosecute you. It's gonna be It's
gonna be okay.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Trump is going to find a way through and takes
care of those He's not leaving people behind on the battlefield.
And this set has a very strong message. It's not
to say that there weren't people who crossed the line
on January sixth. There were some people who crossed the line,
but there were a lot of people who really didn't
do very much at all and were treated horribly, treated

(12:42):
like enemies of the country that they love so very much.
And Donald Trump just really gave them their lives back
last night.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
You want to talk about an awe inspiring use of
presidential power, they have been given their lives back.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
And it was you know, So.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
That's when you're out there and you're you're clinking some
I was gonna say martini glasses. It's more like red
solo cups where we were. But that's okay, that aside,
you know, but when you're when you're out there and
you're celebrating and you can point to not only something
really beautiful for the future of the country, which is
what I think is going to be very clear with
this administration, but also something really meaningful for a lot

(13:22):
of Americans, a lot of patriots who have been suffering
horribly and for with a stroke of his pen Trump
to end that suffering was an incredible thing for everyone too,
and we all as soon as it was happening. That
was what was just buzzing through. They're all these different
balls and parties all over DC, and that was one
where every just said, my gosh, he's doing it. He's

(13:44):
getting right to it, not wasting a moment. We also
want to take some of your calls if you have
any questions or any thoughts you want to share. If
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. It is a great week,
a great time for America. It's we're still just getting
used to here on Clay and Buck the doing a
show with Trump as president. We have we've both done
shows in the past separately. We did our own shows
for years where Trump was president. But now we're together
and it has been Biden, nothing but Biden, zill Now

(15:43):
and man it's funny too, I think, other than just
discussing the complete and utter failures and incompetence of Biden
here and there, and we're not going to dwell on that,
but I don't think he's going to come up very much.
I think the Biden legacy is really one of leaving
the Democrat Party in tatters on his way out, and

(16:05):
and the and the media, you know, the whole. It's
not even just the electoral win that Trump had. We've
talked about the cultural shift, the changing attitude in corporate America,
all of that factors in, but also the media has
just and I mean the lunatic Democrat media has been defanged.

(16:27):
It is they got nothing right now. I know they're trying.
Oh they're trying to say something about look at how
Elon moved his hand. Shut up, you babies. We're all
it's all we're all tired of. It doesn't work anymore.
Uh So that's I think a really big change. But
something else, Clay, and this was top of mind yesterday,

(16:47):
I think for a lot of us watching as these
executive orders got signed.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I know it's it's a team effort.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
And Trump is the guy, you know, he is the decider,
and there's a team behind him. But I think it's
pretty clear that some of the brilliant Stephen Miller's fingerprints
are on some of these early eos because of the focus.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
On the borders.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You remember, Stephen, I was a friend of the show,
was really Trump's, you know, Trump's sort of brain trust
on border issues in the first term, and what is
incredibly well versed on these issues and really sees the
big picture. The the slew of executive orders dealing with

(17:29):
the border, I think shows what a focus it's going
to be for the country, for the presidency and for
the country. Here is Trump. Let's start with this one
on This is cut five. This is on birthright citizenship
and what's going on with this play it?

Speaker 4 (17:44):
This next order relates to the definition and of birthright
citizenship under the fourteenth Amendment of the United States.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
And it's a big one.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
What about that one in the court?

Speaker 5 (17:55):
That one could be the big way a good ground,
but you could be right. I mean, you'll find out ridiculous.
We're the only country in the world that does this
with birthright, as you know, and it's just absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
But you know, we'll see. We think it. We have
a very good to ask Clay. I just it's funny.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's so trumpy to be signing something so consequent and
be like, yeah, that's a good one. Let's get that.
Let's get that one. Very very casual about it. I
know it's going to go into the courts right away.
We've discussed it a little bit. I actually think that
eventually the anchor baby scam will It might be five
to four, it might be six to three, but I
think the Supreme Court's going to say no, subject to

(18:41):
the jurisdiction. Thereof means that if you're a foreign national
from another country and you come here, you're you're subject
to their jurisdiction. You are not subject for the purposes
of the law, to our jurisdiction for citizenship purposes. Yeah,
and look, this is one that I just don't think
has gotten very much discussion, and I think Trump deserves

(19:01):
immense credit for even bringing it into the so called
Overton window of discussion. We've talked about this on the
show quite a lot. There are two primary reasons that
people come to the United States illegally. One is jobs.
You can make way more money working in the United
States than you can anywhere most of the time that
these people are coming from. Okay, so that is an

(19:21):
incentive that is actually a direct result of our incredibly
dynamic capitalistic environment for jobs.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, that's hard to remove.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Second one, though, is that people come and they come
because they want to have a baby inside of the
soil of the United States, which automatically makes their children
citizens and means you basically have a really big difficulty
in removing the parents as a result. Second one shouldn't exist.
And again some people get confused. Your mom or dad

(19:54):
being a citizen of the United States. You should be
a citizen of the United States. It's a very right.
But most countries Trump is right in the world do
not allow you to become a citizen of that country
simply because you were born there. For instance, if you Buck,
You've got a baby coming in April, which is gonna
be awesome. Your wife, Carrie incredible trooper running all over

(20:15):
Frozen DC this weekend.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
She was amazing. She's almost seven months pregnant.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
It was like five degrees outside and I was trying
to keep up with her. So if you guys, for
some reason, when you were in Spain, when you went
over there during the holidays. If you had had a
baby over there, your child wouldn't also be a Spanish citizen.
And most people out there would say, okay, that makes sense.
Just because you happen to travel somewhere and have a

(20:42):
baby should not make your child a citizen. And this
is actually, and it's important, a vestige of the colonial era,
which everybody now claims is awful, because if you wanted
somebody to get on a ship and come from England
to the New World, to the colonies, you had to
let people will know, Hey, your kid is still going

(21:02):
to be a British subject. Hey your kid is still
going to be a subject of Spain, or of France,
or of any other country with New World colonies. That's
why this exists. It is a vestige of the colonial
era and it should not exist. And most of our
compatriot countries in the industrialized world do not allow this

(21:26):
to occur. And I believe the courts should say, if
we want to do this, we have to pass a lass.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Saying bank robbery is bad.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
If you go into a bank and you steal money,
we all agree, you know, well, I think all normal
people agree that that's bad.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
That's a crime. You shouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
If you were to take that money though, and give
it to your children, you don't then get to say, well,
hold on a second, Yes I did a bad thing,
but it's not my kid's fault and they're using it
to pay for college or something. Right, No, they're going
to take the money. You're not allowed to profit from
a crime. With the Anchor baby scam, that's what happens.

(22:07):
It incentivizes people to violate US sovereignty and violate the law.
So that's why I mean. And Trump was speaking under
his breath a little bit about this, He's like, this
is absurd. Other countries don't do this. Why should we
do this? When all these.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Other countries that the Democrats love to point to and say,
look at how sophisticated they are with their like tiny
little espresso cups and whatever. They love to point to
them and say look how they do things. But on
this issue, you won't find another developed country with with
you know, a welfare.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
State that people want to be in.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Okay, I don't know about the laws in every country,
but you will not find another country where if you
just show up illegally, you know, you run across the
truly run across their border on foot and you have
a baby you get to you don't get to turn
around and say, well, now I'm that my child is
a citizen of your country.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yes, it makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
There's no reason for this to to be something that
we've even been allowing as long as we have. That's
one big part of the I know it's gonna go
to the courts, we all know that, but that battle
has to happen. That clarification is necessary now on. This
is cut one designating the Cartels as a foreign terrorist

(23:21):
organizations Cut one player.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
This is actually an executive order designating the Cartels and
other organizations to be four terrorist organizations.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's a big one, Yes, sir.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
People have wanted to do this for years, so they
are now designated as tereost organizations are and Mexico probably
doesn't want that.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
We have to do play. There are a lot of
implications of this, yes, s Yeah, a lot of implications
of this.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
It's first and foremost, I think people they start to
think about what does this mean that there's going to
be both special operations and intelligence agency activity.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Treating this, treating whatever the.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Cartels, whether there's like the Nuevo Generation cartel. I mean,
I've got to brush up on all my cartel of
my cartel updates here.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
You know, there's the Sinaloa cartel.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
But yes, there'll be the the possibility of some kind
of military action. A big part of it, though, is
how you can use the foreign terrorist Organization designation for
financial reasons, not now you're talking about it's going in
seizing assets. You know, we have a tremendous amount of
leverage in the international banking system. So there's a bunch
of things, a bunch of tools that this brings to bear. This, though,

(24:48):
could get really messy, really fast, really violent, really fast.
I remember what it was like in the latter part
of the Bush administration. And remember when Mexico's President Vicente Fox.
There were tens of thousands of people who were dying
in the cartel wars at that time in Mexico. Not
Americans but occasionally Americans, but it was almost all Mexicans

(25:10):
dying in that crossfire. Really taking on the cartels is necessary,
but it's also a major challenge.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yes, and so much of this is not only about
what we do.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
It's about putting Mexico on notice that if they don't
clean up some of their act, there are gonna be consequences.
And I don't think you can understate this. Remember, Buck
remain in Mexico was really sort of a compromise that
was reached between you can correct me if I'm wrong
on this, VINCENTE. Fox at the time, and Donald Trump

(25:46):
because Mexico was basically just funneling anybody who came into
their country, basically waving the green flag and letting them
continue to our border. And as soon as people started
getting stuck in Mexico, Mexico was not giving as much
clarity and ease of transgress to anyone trying to get
to our country, and that bottleneck filtered all the way down. Look,

(26:10):
so much of this is just letting people know, Hey,
you can't go to America. Check into a hotel in
New York City, get free Wi Fi and free meals,
and the American taxpayer is going to pay for it.
And as soon as that incentive structure is removed and
people begin to see it Buck, then the consequences of

(26:30):
their decision making changes tremendously. Remember the guy right after
Biden got inaugurated, the guy coming across the border in
a Biden T shirt. You don't even see Biden t
shirts anymore. And I remember seeing him interviewed and he said,
why are you coming, and he basically said, because Joe
Biden wants us to come. That was the message we
all shared with those individuals, and Trump's actions have finally

(26:52):
started to punch back on that.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yes, and also Trump deciding, you know that we don't
actually have to live in a country where we have
over one hundred.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Thousand people dying of drug overdose every year, and I
think a lot of it, it should be remembered, is
actually poisoning people. Because they don't they'll they'll take what's
called the hot batch.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
They the cartels will.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Adulter rate what you you know, you think you're getting
an illegal drug, right, you think you're getting a fentanyl
on the black market, but they mix things into it
makes it particularly lethal. They will change things such that there's.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
A much higher, you know, concentration of the drug. Anyway,
people die from it. Trump says enough, he says we're
not going to do this anymore. He says, we're not
going to just say, well, I guess this is what living,
you know, next to Mexico means we're going to have
these cartels that are pushing billions of dollars of poison
into our communities. And we always focus on the fatalities

(27:59):
for obvious reasons. But for every person who dies of
a drug overdose, think of the devastation that the family suffers.
Think of just all the loss of productivity and the
loss of future, loss of future years of life. So
it's a big move what Trump has done here. And
I think that going for the border clay right from
the outset makes a lot of sense and is putting

(28:23):
them on a pathway right off the bat to tackle
the most important issues from what he promised from the
campaign and from his first term. Yeah, Buck, and your
point on the fentanyl is a really good one. Remember,
a lot of people are dying because they're not even
trying to take fentanyl. It's just laced in other products.
In other words, a lot of Americans are getting poisoned

(28:44):
thinking they're taking something else. And then because we're not
talking about the greatest safeguards, often times when it comes
to creating this product and it's laced into other drugs
that someone would never have taken. Sometimes not even you know,
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(29:07):
there are people out there who use cocaine. You can say, hey,
that's not a smart move, but because of the lacings
that are associated with it, they now are having to
test that right. And so I think poisoning actually should
be talked about more as a cause of death as
opposed to overdose. Because an overdose is an intentional in
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(29:29):
are dying and never even knowing that they were taking
the risk that they were by using that product. And
I think that's why poisoning, to describe some of these
hundred thousand desks deaths, is actually much more apropos and
that becomes much more akin to a murder.

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Speaker 3 (30:59):
We are reacting to a dynamic first twenty four hours
of the Trump presidency as he continues to implement so
many of the different promises he has made during the
course of the campaign, among them freeing essentially all of
the January sixth prisoners from all of their criminal related issues,

(31:21):
treating them basically the same as everybody who was involved
in the BLM riots for much of twenty twenty. You
got a crazy story that they are trying to, I
would say, manufacture out of completely nothing in accusing Elon
Musk of making a Hitler salute. They really can't leave

(31:44):
the Hitler angle. Even though Trump won record number of
Jewish voters, and if Israel were able to vote, Trump
would have won on the same kind of manner as
he won Wyoming or West Virginia. That is, Trump is
wildly popular all throughout Israel, and Trump is instrumental in

(32:07):
getting all of the hostages back, including bringing some of
the hostage families on stage with him yesterday at the
Capitol One Arena during his post inauguration rally. All of
that underway, But Buck, you hit on something that I
think is really significant, and that is the culture, the business,
the sports world suddenly getting in line behind Trump. And

(32:31):
I was thinking about this last night, Buck, as I
watched at the inaugural ball. The village people come out
to perform YMCA and Trump dancing along with it at
the ball.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
But you combine that with all.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Of the different musicians, all of the different athletes, all
of the different CEOs and business executives, and we have
witnessed a transformative cultural movement the likes of which we've
never seen before. In twenty seventeen, it was we've got
to isolate Trump, put on our vagina hats and claim
that he isn't a legitimate president. And now there's virtually

(33:09):
no resistance and in fact, business, culture and sports are
lining up behind Trump the likes of which we've never
seen before.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's remarkable, Clay, and it's something that I think also
just goes to what a complete victory it is for
Donald Trump right now.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
And really the MAGA movement.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I mean, it's Trump as the leader of it, But
there's been so much that Trump supporters have had to
put up with. I mean, we're talking about the severity
and the insanity of the treatment that the j six
prisoners received, but I just mean every day Trump supporters
who have had companies trying to push trans stuff on

(33:52):
their kids and have been told, you know that they
better mask up. But if they're going to come inside
the business, and I've been told that their business is
not even welcome in some places, right. I mean, they've
gone after firearms manufacturers, they've been debanking people, I mean,
all of this stuff, all these underhanded, dirty tricks that

(34:13):
Democrats have been pulling four years. Oh, there's a shift now,
there's a change in not just the momentum, but in
the power structure in this country. And everybody feels it.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
And the bad people out there, those who have used
their power for censorship, for deplatforming, for undermining, for attacking
small businesses because they didn't like their politics, they know
that the old days of getting away with the worst
of that, they're at least for right now on hold.
So I think that's very powerful, no doubt. And you

(34:50):
and I let me take people into the inaugural ball situation.
I mean it was there's thousands and thousands of people,
lots of a celebratory mood there, but you, you and
I ended up in an area called the DraftKings and
Fandual Lounge. And I want to kind of take people
into the cultural shift that I have witnessed in my

(35:11):
own experience and why it was so staggering to me
last night. So they had the Ohio State Notre Dame
game on there. Congratulations to Ohio State winning the national championship.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
But we were standing there. There's seats, tables, everything else.
And I told you this, Buck, but I think it's
important for the audience to hear it too. FanDuel, we
were the out meaning OutKick the site that I ran.
We were one of their biggest affiliates, if not their
biggest affiliate. We made them This is one hundred percent true.

(35:44):
We made them millions of dollars on so many different days,
tens of millions of dollars in twenty twenty with sports
gambling going legal all over the country. In fact, my
company personally, just to kind of give you an idea,
out Kick on Super Bowl twenty twenty one, we made
two million dollars. FanDuel stroked us a check just on

(36:08):
that day for two million dollars. We made them tens
of millions of dollars. Here's what happened. They were really
upset because they had a woke marketing department. I sold
out Kick to Fox. FanDuel and DraftKings both said Klay
Travis is too much of a Trump supporter in the
wake of jan six, twenty twenty one, and the wake

(36:29):
of me endorsing him and the comments that I was
making publicly, they said, we can't work with him anymore.
FanDuel and DraftKings sports gambling companies. This is one reason,
by the way, we're partner with price Picks. To their credit,
FanDuel and DraftKings said, also, Clay's two outspoken when he
says that men pretending to be women shouldn't be playing

(36:52):
in women's sports. We think that's offensive. We're worried about
our brand being connected with him. Just telling you all
what happened behind this. Suddenly Trump wins the twenty twenty
four election popular vote. Buck, they show up and have
a sponsorship that is going on inside of the Trump inauguration.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
They've got their own area.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
FanDuel and DraftKings are trying to be like, hey, we're
big Trump people now, and to me, this culture a
lot of it. I want you guys to remember who
actually had your back and don't allow these companies to
suddenly come running in. I'll give you another example, Buck,
this happened last night. I couldn't believe it happened. During
the Ohio State Notre Dame game. Suddenly, ESPN, which has

(37:43):
been wildly anti Trump for years, decided they were going
to share a message. We've got some of the audio
for you of Trump addressing everybody watching that game last night.
I almost fell out of my chair, buck when I
saw that this happened. Play that cut.

Speaker 8 (37:59):
Starting now, We're going to bring America back and make
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Speaker 1 (38:04):
Prouder than ever before.

Speaker 8 (38:06):
We will have a nation filled with compassion, strength, and
exceptionalism to our power and might. We will stop wars
and we will lead the world to peace. We will
be respected again, and we will be admired again, admired
like we haven't been in many, many years. We'll put
America first, and by doing so, we're going to make

(38:28):
America great again. In less than three months ince the election.
You have already seen it happen, and you can feel
the excitement, and you can see the confidence and spirit
returning to our nation. Together, we're going to lead our
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(38:49):
watching tonight, I know it's been a long and difficult journey.
It's been a long season, but you have two tremendous
teams and get to the game and go out and
fight hard and fight fear and let the better team win.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Okay, Buck For anybody who's seeing the ESPN or FanDuel
or DraftKings, I'm talking about the culture of sports changing
overnight with Trump. It's extraordinary. I honestly can't believe some
of what I'm seeing, the degree to which they're just
all now like, hey, we love Trump, Hey go Trump.
I mean, it's remarkable.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
I think that there are a lot of people on
the corporate and cultural side of things who maybe they
didn't personally go along with this in terms of their beliefs,
they didn't really want to. Now I can't give you
what the percentages are here, but I'm just saying I
think there are some who were worried about crossing the Democrats. Yes,

(39:46):
and so it was more out of fear. And by
the way, I know that this existed some companies, and
Clinn and I have talked about some of the companies
where we know people running them where this has been
the case. There have been there have been times where
companies and and you know, media outlets, whatever it may be,
have made decisions because they were afraid of crossing Democrats,

(40:08):
and I think that now what they see is they
don't have to be afraid anymore. They're they're not having
to look over their shoulder for Oh, I'm going to
get some audit from Biden's irs because I have you know,
somebody in my company is pro Trump or you know.
This is a shift that has effects that are downstream

(40:31):
of the election and will affect I think the next election,
because this is this goes beyond just one political cycle.
This is a change in the cultural and commerce feeling
of the country right now, which is a remarkable turnabout
when you think about how we went from in twenty

(40:52):
twenty the Amazon shutting off parlor, Trump kicked off of
social media company, you know, all the social media companies
saying basically, you can't you can't question the election results.
You can't say that the vaccines don't stop the spread,
which they didn't, by the way, you can't say these things.

(41:15):
And now we're at a place where, hold on a second,
free speech may have come back, free enterprise may be
respected as something that does not have to be run
by the woke mob.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
First.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
I mean, this is all enormously important and a massive change.
And then, by the way, you know what you were
talking about, Clay, is not only can people lose some
of the fear of being targeted by democrats. I think
now there are democrats who are saying a lot of them,
a lot of them in the corporate world, who are saying,
I don't know Trump's maybe he's pretty cool, id of

(41:49):
like this Trump guy. Maybe I don't want to be
on the wrong side of the Trumpster.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Well, I think what it also represents is we saw
buck here, face to face what the actual resistance looks like.
And I think a lot of these CEOs now are
looking around and they're like, am I gonna let some
purple haired crazy person who has no real job beating
on a drum walking around in a vagina hat dictate

(42:16):
the direction that my corporate policy goes to. And remember,
all we've ever argued is, hey, try to appeal to everybody.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
If you're a car company, I don't want only to
sell the Democrats. I don't only want to sell the Republicans.
If you're a restaurant or an airline, you want to
address the biggest possible market. And when I saw a
FanDuel of DraftKings. Last night we walked in. I told
you I I just couldn't believe it that they could
go from Clay Travis can't talk about the fact that

(42:45):
there's only two genders and that men shouldn't be able
to compete in women's sports because for branding purposes, that
makes him toxic, even though what is it, ninety ten
sports fans agree with me, and then they suddenly go, hey,
we're proud to be a present sponsor of the Donald
Trump inauguration. You know what Trump said when he came
out on the stage at the ball Liberty Ball last night, Hey,

(43:07):
there's only two genders.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
We got to get men out of women's sports.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
So it's just like he's saying the same thing that
I said for years and that many of you rationally
have been saying. And these corporations now are going to
try to pretend they've always been in line with your
values all along. And look, I think it's better the
direction we're going, But it's head spinning for me to
see how people like you and me were treated for
what we said about COVID, or what we said about

(43:32):
men and women's sports, or what we said about voting
for Donald Trump to now all of a sudden, Amazon
who tried to shut down the ability of parlor to
even exist because they were upset about them being too
Trump supporting, to suddenly Jeff Bezos sitting at the inauguration,
to Mark Zuckerberg, who took away Trump's account, sitting front

(43:53):
row at the inauguration. It's crazy Bezos' wife as zucker Bello, Hello, Hello,
boobs are back, buck.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
That's why a lot of people I saw at the
at the at the ball last night.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
First of all, a lot of boobs at the ball,
so I don't think boob's ever left, but a lot
of dudes coming up saying, hey, Clay, still love your
I got a lot of fist pounds at the at
the event last night, So Lauren san Che bet Jeff
Bezos would give me a fifth pound. Now he wanted
to kick me off the internet. Now he's got a
little bit testosterone. He likes boobs again.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
We come back, we will. We'll have a little bit
of fun with you.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
We got Julie Kelly, who I think deserves a massive
amount of attention for all the work that she did,
joining us at the bottom of the hour to talk
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Speaker 2 (46:32):
Welcome back in to play and Buck just going to
be Buck for the rest of the show. Here in Florida,
Clay flying back to Tennessee. We got Julie Kelly with
us now to talk about the Jay six releases, commutations, pardons,
all of it. She is the author of a declassified
on substack. Go subscribe. Julie, I hear you a little

(46:53):
under the weather. Thanks for powering through for us here.
We just felt like, give them what's going on with
the pardons and commutations, the releases. You're the person we
wanted to talk to just first off, what have you
been hearing from the families and bring us into what
it's like as they're finding out in real time that
Trump has given them their lives back.

Speaker 9 (47:16):
Well, Buck and I regardless of how I feel and
never sick, so of course today would be the first
day in like, you know, thirty years. But anyway, I
want to thank you, and I want to thank Clay,
because you guys were instrumental in getting this message out.
The travesty of the j sixers, their plate, the abusive
prosecution of them, incarceration. So this has been really a

(47:38):
team effort, and I wanted to think, I want to
think both of you. Also, how did you guys get
such hot lives? I saw photos from the ball.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
You know, we do it weekend. I appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
So anyway, I wanted to thank both of you. And
there was just a historic day. I mean, this full
pardon that the President issued last night, getting my phone
blowing up with texts that people were already being released,
mothers who were crying that their sons are coming home.
So I just really have to commend and thank President

(48:13):
Trump because but this was not an easy decision to
make at all. This got a lot of pushback from
Republicans in Congress. You had US senators during Pam Bondi's
confirmation hearing Lindsay Graham and Tom Tillis coming flat out
to saying they opposed pardons for those who allegedly beat
up cops. And Tom Tillis even today saying denouncing these

(48:38):
pardons and saying he wants new federal laws for killing
police officers. No police officer was killed on January sixth,
So this is the sort of political opposition that the
President had to deal with. But nonetheless, I know he
was personally committed to this, and he took a very bold,
courageous move yesterday. I think that there will be more

(49:00):
to come on this because he really wants all of
these people and their families made whole. After the Biden,
Marrick Garland, DOJ did everything they could to try to
destroy them.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
And so last night were there people I mean I
was seeing some video on social media at the ball,
so there was a lot of things going on and
people were being released as of midnight. Is that how
how did it actually go down?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Correct?

Speaker 9 (49:28):
So some of them started getting released last night. And
you know, keep in mind, as you probably know, books Buck,
but your listeners, these people are in the hardest federal
prisons across the country Texas, Philadelphia, in New York City.
This is where we put really dangerous repeat criminals, not

(49:49):
someone who scuffled with the police officer during a political protest.
So yeah, some of were being released, you know, in
the wee hours of the morning, and the families were
kind scrambling to figure out how to go get them,
because of course there are hundreds, maybe thousands of miles away.
We do see today and I'm sure you've seen this too, book,
the DC Gulag, of course, waiting till the very last minute,

(50:13):
delaying as long as they possibly can. Defendants, including women
who are in that hellhole waiting to get released. And
I think some members of Congress have already gone there
to try to figure out what's going on. But that
is really the Gulag, the center of the torment of
these J sixers. But nonetheless, they will be free, they

(50:35):
will be home, and I think more to come to
make them whole and hopefully also hold accountable the monsters
in the DJ and FBI and federal courthouse who did
this to these people.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Is there anyone who is supposed to be out among
J six prisoners who is not out? That was another
thing that I was seeing, but I wasn't sure. And
I know that you're following all this very closely. It
would seem to me the President says you're out, You're
out right. I mean, there shouldn't be any There should
be no question, there's no This is a great chain

(51:11):
of command, presidential pardon issue or commutation issue. So is
anyone still waiting to be released or is everybody out
who's supposed to be out?

Speaker 9 (51:21):
My understanding is there are still some who are being
released who are waiting to be released, especially at the
DC Gulag. Now, the DC Gulag is sort of the
holding pen for defendants who are going on trial, so
they are transferred there from other federal prisons they've been
detained under pre trial detention, or they're in prison they've

(51:42):
been convicted and taken into custody. That's kind of the
holding pen where they all stay before they have to
go to the courthouse a few blocks away for whatever proceeding.
So there's a mix of defendants in there that could
be the hold up because some are there who are convicted,
some are there who are on trial and have not
been convicted, some are there waiting to be sentenced. So

(52:04):
if they're blaming it on paperwork, doesn't matter. These people
should immediately have been released last night, deal with the
paperwork later. So it just continues throughout the day. And
I know there are actually people J sixers who were
released from prison last night, say in Philadelphia, who went
right to the DC gulags and they're they're already helping

(52:26):
in any way that they can to get these J
sixers out of gulag. So there might be some more
drama there this afternoon. We'll keep an eye on it.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
And I also just think Julie, because it's easy for
people to you know, so much going on to forget
about some of what went on here, and and yes,
this is a this is a happy moment, and it's
an incredible move by President Trump, and I you know,
first and foremost, this is just such a relief and

(52:54):
such an incredible uh decision by the by the new
president to do this. But I think it's important to
also have that perspective of people were held in What
was the longest that you remember somebody being held in
solitary confinement as a JAY six prisoner before trial?

Speaker 9 (53:12):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Was it over a year? Was it fourteen months? I mean?

Speaker 3 (53:15):
And what was some of the treatment that some of
the non violent JA sixers were receiving in that DC gulag.

Speaker 9 (53:22):
So the members of the Proud Boys who went to
trial in December of twenty twenty two, many of them
had been in custody since January or February of twenty
twenty one, so almost two years before they went to trial.
And these are non violent charges obstruction of an official
preceding the ridiculous seditious conspiracy statute, which is reserved for

(53:47):
real terrorists, not people organizing to go to a political protest.
So those were the most abused, I believe but there
were others who were imprisoned for a year fifteen eighteen
months before going to trial, and the real outrage there
buck two yes, and held in solitary confinement because of

(54:08):
alleged COVID rules, especially at the Gulag, where people were
transferred from all over the country to go to the
DC Gulag just to torment them. There weren't court proceedings
in person, corp proceedings going on in Washington in twenty
twenty one. They transferred them there, sometimes four or five
different stops along the way at other federal prisons, finally

(54:29):
making it to the DC Gulag, where they had a
special section of the DC prison system set aside for
Trump's supporters. I mean, this is the sort of thing
you read about in Binano republics, not in the United States.
And yes, held in solitary consignment, denied access to their family,
denied access to their attorneys. So we are going to

(54:52):
start hearing the horror stories now that these people have
been released, about what has happened to them during the proceedings,
and of course while they were in custody in these violent,
dangerous fettle of prisons.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Were you hearing directly really from some of the families
as they were finding out that this was real.

Speaker 9 (55:14):
Yes, yes, And that's the first time I started hearing
we're from defendants and from family members. Oh my god,
you know so and so is coming home. I can't
believe this is and I kind of didn't believe it either.
I thought, okay, the pardon, then there will be a
process for getting people out of jail. And it was

(55:35):
happening instantaneously. I believe that the President and I think
his acting DOJ officials, as soon as they took office,
started notifying the Bureau of Prisons in US Marshalls that
this was going to happen and to prepare to release
these defendants. So it was already sort of in motion
before the President signed that pardon order. Last night, I

(55:58):
think it was seven o'clock Eastern time.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Speaking of Julie Kelly, Declassified is her substack which you
can all subscribe to. She did so much great work
by looking into publicizing advocating for J six prisoners with
her substack and by coming on shows like this one
and now, Julie, what I want to know from you
is what do you want to on this issue?

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And we can expand this a bit more broadly into
just also.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Cleaning up the DOJ and making sure that we don't
see more of what we saw here with JA six
prisoners and a whole bunch of other things as well,
with the weaponization of the Justice Department.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
What do you want to see going forward? What does
justice look like to you, and what does cleaning up
DJ look like to you?

Speaker 9 (56:46):
Well, I will tell you, Buck, I did talk to
the President last week for a lengthy amount of time
about this issue. So obviously he was very adamant about pardons,
and also, as we saw with the other executive order yesterday,
cleaning up the Department of Justice, not just of course
what they did to him, but what they did to

(57:07):
Peter Navarro and to Steve Bannon and trying to destroy
Jeff Clark and John Eastman his attorneys, and then of
course to J sixer. So I think he's also very
committed to exposing everything that went down in his prosecution,
the other prosecutions, the J six one, as well, how
the FBI was involved, what they did these armed you know,

(57:30):
pre dawn armed raids for non violent offenders, terrorizing families
and their entire communities. So he you know, this is
just the start. Let's put it that way. This is
just the start of accountability and transparency and all of
the things that I think resulted in President Trump's when

(57:53):
repelling the law fair dangerous, lawfair, and a DJ that
has no can people.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Have no trust in Julie.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
One more for you before we let you get back to,
you know, relaxing and resting and getting ready for.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Yeah, the the last minute, Given how you've had to
fight through all.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
Of this, this.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Insanity from the Democrat doj under Biden pushing for the
most extreme prosecutions possible of JA six defendants and all
the rest. What was it like to see, just as
he's scurrying away from the spotlight, Biden pardon his immediate
family members, along with Fauci and Jay six committee people,

(58:41):
et cetera, but particularly the Biden crime family.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
What was that like for you?

Speaker 9 (58:46):
I mean, we were all waiting for that to happen, right,
we knew it was coming, but here was you know,
eleven forty five or so Eastern time. He was going
to wait till the very last minute, which he did
to pardon all of his family members, giving credence to
what we all know is that that is the Biden
crime family crime racket, and I think we will learn

(59:08):
more about that, all of the business deals that the
Biden family initiated and were engaged in with some of
our foreign adversaries, and then funneling that to Joe Biden
despite all of his protestations to the contrary. But I
will say, if you walk back to J six, that
also justifies, I think really adds fuel to the fire

(59:29):
that the J six committee was also a criminal operation
and we know that they were engaged in criminal conduct,
destroying evidence, supporting perjury, obstructing investigations, so we know that
that's the case, and then pardoning before I call J
six celebrity cops Aqualllmagannell, Mike Fanone, Daniel Hodges, and Harry

(59:54):
Dunn who committed perjury not just during that July twenty
one televised perform where they were all crying and lying
about their injuries, but also lying under oath as witnesses
and victims in J six court proceedings, begging judges to
throw the book at JA sixers based on injuries and
trauma that they never sustained. So that I think is

(01:00:17):
a real travesty you too, Julie Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Everybody, Julie, I know, the families and the J six
defendants themselves appreciate your work, as does this audience, and
it must feel good to see how it all came
together finally in the end.

Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
Thank you so much, Thank you Buck, thanks for all
your help and covering my work.

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