March 4, 2025 • 61 mins
Ukraine peace? Sen. Majority Leader John Thune. Uncle Bill with some inside baseball on Trump. How many of you can relate to this scenario?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I hope all
of you are having a fabulous Tuesday. News coming, as
it often does during the Trump regime, at a rapid fashion.
We will dive into all of it here momentarily. Reminder,
Trump is also speaking tonight in front of a joint
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session of Congress, a usual State of the Union, although
I think in the year after the election it's not
officially called the State of the Union, but that is
what will be going on tonight and many will be
watching to see what the President says. Let me give
you a little bit of a roadmap we're headed. Senate
Majority Leader John Thune going to be on with us
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at the bottom of this hour. Every single Democrat senator
voted against men being prohibited from playing in women's sports.
In other words, they support men who identify as women
being able to compete in women's sports. Every single Democrat senator.
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It's crazy. Our friend Bill O'Reilly will join us at
the top of the next hour. That is where we
are headed. But Buck, the biggest news that is out
there in the last hour, Zelensky has decided to ben
the need to Donald Trump and beg for peace. Let
me read a little bit of what he said. I
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would like This is Zelenski's Twitter account. I would like
to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us wants
in endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the
negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer.
Nobody wants peace more than the Ukrainians. My team and
I stand ready to work under President trump strong leadership
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to get a piece that lasts. We value how much
America has done. Our meeting in Washington at the White
House on Friday not go that way. It was supposed
to be regrettable that it happened this way. It's time
to make things right. We would like future cooperation and
communication to be constructive. Regarding the agreement on minerals and Security,
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Ukraine is ready to sign it anytime and in any
convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward
greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope
it will work effectively. All Right, Friday, the blow up, Tuesday,
the apology again, that statement a little bit longer, Buck,
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What do you think people should take from this situation
that we are currently in with Ukraine? And where do
we go from here?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, Trump is doing what he does, which is a
non traditional approach to try to solve problems.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And I think that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
The people who have at every step of the every
step of the way question came under him said he's crazy,
he said he's a dictator, are doing what they always do,
which is more of that. When you look at what
has already occurred, it does seem to be that Trump
is using the leverage that he should use on issues
that matter to get us to a better resolution. All
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that really counts, and this is contra the diplomacy, State Department,
Foreign policy consensus mindset. All that really matters is the results, right,
All that really matters is when something happens in response
to a decision, an action and agreement that Trump has taken.
How we get there, I think is far less important.
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And so, yes, was it a little bit of a
surprise to see that dust up in the Oval office?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Do I think that Zelensky was the one who instigated it? Largely? Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And now are we back in a place where Zelenski
is saying all the things that we wanted to hear
from him the.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
First time around? Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So that to me indicates that Trump is on the
right track. I also think that this is forced out
into public view, that the people who just are all
about the Ukrainian fight and don't ever go beyond Ukraine
is the good guy, Russia is the bad guy, are
being forced to justify in public, what exactly is your
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plan if this war goes on for another five years?
In what way is Ukraine in a better position then
than they are in now? Russia has more men, more material,
more North Korean troops, I might add, pouring in. Russia
has allies who are working directly in this fight, and
we refuse to do that. That is our redline. So
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how is Ukraine going to be in a better position
other than losing a lot of our money and a
lot of their men. They don't have an answer to this.
Trump knows that. So we're trying to get to where
we are with the deal now, Clay, if the negotiations
were to break down because what Putin wants is just
so unthinkable, is so beyond the pale, well at least
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we would know that, right at least then we can
have a conversation. Okay, Putin really is being crazier than anticipated.
On this, So maybe he does need to suffer the
consequences a little bit more or whatever, But right now
there's no reason to believe that the option that the
Ukraine hardliners want to take is better.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Look where we are right now, and my wife has
been fired up about this, so she will not stop
talking about it. I do think that the United States
has created much of this mess, meaning the invasion, the
battles over territory, and all that's happening now is Trump
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is trying to clean up the mess. Right You go
back to the agreement when Ukraine gave up their nukes,
there was some form of protection agreement entered into and
Ukraine took it as the United States won't let Russia invadas.
Obviously Obama did not take it that way. Biden did
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not take it that way. Russia has for a long
time not wanted NATO on its border. We have continued
to expand NATO to Russia's border, and I think this
war is actually a result of much of the failure
of American policy, both as it pertains to Ukraine and
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to Russia significantly, buck none of which Trump was involved
in remotely. So he is now in this mess where
he is trying to end up in a situation where
he's trying to put this all back right, and so
the United States is not blameless here. We want to
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be saying, oh Slava Ukraine. Ukraine is the hero and
Russia is the villain. America is not coming to this
situation with clean hands. We have, in many ways created,
I believe, a total mess, and now Trump is trying
to clean it up, and so I hope that we
can get a ceasefire here and that people can stop dying.
(07:14):
My concern, Buck is, now we're moving into okay, what
does the negotiated piece look like? What does a ceasefire
look like? It seems to me, and I'm curious if
you would agree with this that to a large extent,
wherever the lines are drawn now where the stellmate has
basically come to exist, it feels to me like Russia
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is going to get a large percentage of those eastern
parts of Ukraine. Where exactly that line is drawn will
be a huge debate. And then I hope that Russia
doesn't decide to invade again. I don't think it will
happen with Trump in office. But my concern is if
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Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom or whomever the Andrew Cuomo.
If one of those guys or gals were to win
in twenty twenty eight, I think Putin would go right
back to invading again, because I'm not sure he would
respect the Democrats, as he has shown he did not
respect Obama and as he has shown he did not
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respect Biden.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Are There's some very fundamental questions here that I think
Trump sees properly, and one of them is.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Do we care enough?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Do we as Americans care enough about who's in control
of twenty five percent or so fifteen twenty percent of
Ukraine that we're willing to lose American soldiers and spend billions,
perhaps even trillions of dollars, never mind the possibility of
a nuclear nuclear exchange, which is the euphemism, of course
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we use for nuking each other's militaries in the theater,
which would be horrifying. Are we willing to do those things? No,
we're not, And so at some point level, this is
all just I think a recognition that there's going to
be an ability that Russia has in its sphere of
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influence here or to expand its sphere of influence here
because it's not a NATO country, and because we don't
want to do their fighting for them, and so there
are limitations on what we're willing to do. There are
also limitations on the timeframe in which we're willing to
continue doing what we are already doing in terms of
the money and materil and training and everything else that
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we have been giving them. This is a messy situation.
It's terrible how much life has been lost here. You
brought up Clay, and this is true. You go back
to the you know, the Maidan and Yanakovich and the
efforts to figure out who's going to be in charge
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of Ukraine, stretching back now over a decade, the West
backing one side, Russia backing another. You know, we've been
playing with this as some kind of a proxy territory
for much longer than there have even been bullets flying
over there. So to get this thing to be no
longer a festering sore, but to be in a position
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where there's an agreement going forward, you know, as far
as the Russians are concerned, look at the dismemberment that
the Soviet Union suffered into all these different countries and
all these breakaway republics. For them, the notion that the
map is now and forever going to remain the map
is laughable, clearly, and they very much feel that way,
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and that's why they've been willing to go to this extent.
And you'll notice that no one even talks anymore about
how Putin's going to be overthrown or all this. People
said moronic stuff, and I mean us senators, I don't
have to name them, I could name them in the
very beginning of this conflict, delusional about how we'd be
able to defeat the Russian war machine in this theater
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without actually engaging US military forces in the process. So
we just want this whole thing to end. I think
there's tremendous frustration with it. I think it also Clay
comes out of fighting in multiple decades long counterinsurgency g
WATT wars in the Mid East that what did we get?
What did we get in Afghanistan? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's a really tough one to answer. What did we
get in Iraq?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Even isn't it funny? Afghanistan was the good war. We
basically got nothing. We ended up killing Bin Laden in
Pakistan everybody, So you know, we didn't really get very
much for our Afghanistan efforts, did we?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And then you look.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
At Iraq and you know it's marginal right now that
it's better now than it was under Saddam Hussein. So
there's been there's been a lot of reason for us
to see what's gone on with the US foreign policy
and military interventions and say, have we learned the lesson Clay?
And I think that's I think that's Trump's fundamental guiding
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principle on this. Have we learned the lesson?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Do you think we have? I'm not sure that we
have that we haven't. Actually, I think that's a very
good yes. I think that. Unfortunately, there are a lot
of people still who think, oh, no, you don't understand
we could do this.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
And I don't know if they've just been playing too
much call of duty or I don't get it. I
don't know why they would think that this is going
to be something that we want to get deeper and
more involved in. I do not care who is in
charge of CRIMEA, meaning I do not care enough that
I want to sacrifice a single American or any American
interest for CRIMEA. For Don bas or Lahnsk and Donetsk.
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In these places, I do not care. Now that doesn't
mean I don't care about the suffering of the people there.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But Clay, I care about the suffering the people in
South Sudan as well, which is going through yet another
mass genocide situation and slow motion. But we're not about
to land troops there either.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Here's do you agree with me on a positive side
if we can get a cease fire. I actually feel
like Vladimir Putin will not invade Ukraine further while Trump
is in office. Do you agree with that that he
respects Trump enough that he won't do it? I do.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think that he recognizes that. You know Trump, Trump
is willing to upset the Apple card. You don't want
to tick him off. No one even thought Biden was
leading the country, So who cares, doesn't matter what he says.
So the concern is not necessarily the next three years.
It's again, well, you and I've been talking about and
I think it's something that everybody out there needs to realize.
You can believe that Trump is amazing and doing phenomenal
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things than we do. Guys, four years is not enough
to fix a lot of what ails the United States
We've got to stick and stack several different wins together,
one after the other. And that's why I'm already kind
of focused on what happens in twenty six next year,
and what happens in twenty eight, because as enjoyable as
every single day is with Trump in office right now,
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and a lot of our enemies out there are going
to be sitting around hoping that they can get President
Kamala Harris or President Gavin Newsom or President Andrew Cuomo,
whoever the Democrats are going to elevate to run.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We got to stack together a lot of different wins
because the problems we have are so substantial.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
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Speaker 1 (15:35):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We got
a lot to talk about with this man. The Senate
majority leader from South Dakota, John Thune. Appreciate him joining
us right now. Big night on Capitol Hill with Trump
addressing Congress. We'll get to that in a moment, but Senator,
appreciate you making the time. I wanted to start with this.
I still can't believe this is real. Every single Democrat
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center opposed a bill that would keep men from competing
in women's sports. That is, every Democrats senator that voted
were you can you believe this has become a political issue.
And given the fact that seventy nine percent of Americans
agree men should play men's sports women should play women,
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including sixty seven percent of Democrats, what in the world
are Democrats thinking on this bill?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Right? Well, you get good question, guys. I mean, I
just it's mind blowing to me that this has become
a political issue where the Democrats are so tethered to
their I guess transgender ideological political base that they're willing
to throw common sense out the window. I mean, this
is just to me almost incomprehensible that we even having
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this conversation. It's, you know, having biological males as the
opponents of young women, and is both fundamentally unfair and
it's potentially dangerous, honestly, And so you know, Coach Hubberville,
Tommy Tubraviille, the senator from Alabama, led this on the floor.
We had a vote on it last night, and you
are correct. Every single Democrat to the person voted against it.
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And it's an eighty twenty issue, as you point out,
with the American people. So I just I can't explain it.
I think they did there was no lesson learned from
the election. I think it's common sense issues like this
that the American people expect their leaders to act on,
and they just block voted against it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What can you say, Senator Thune when they vote against it? Though?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Are they claiming publicly? I'm just wondering because this has
just happened, and it's hard to believe that they just
did this for a lot of us. But I guess
if you've been paying attention to Democrats, insanity is not
new to them. But are they saying there's some problem
in the text of the bill or some procedural or
are they openly just saying we think dudes should be
able to play against ladies and that's the way it
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should be.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's really honestly the substance
of it. You know, you could say that the bill
could be changed this here that way, but it's there.
It's really very straightforward. And you know, I mean, and
there was a day when Democrats would have been, you know,
quick to defend Title nine and and here we are.
But you know, I mean, this is again I had
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I mentioned this from the floorya to day, but I
had a business professor and graduate school who used to say,
some things are just intuitively obvious, and and I think
this is one of those things that's intuitively obvious to people.
And I, you know, something obviously feel strongly about. I'm
as a father of two women who played sports, and
you know, one of whom is in our high school
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and college hall of fame. I just I can't imagine
a world where you would have guys competing against women
and taking away opportunities not only to excel in their
and their field and their sport, but also for college
scholarships and things that this has serious dounstream consequences. But
the Democrats on a substance level, on a political level
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seem to have made a decision that they would rather
defend again in ideology that is completely out of step
with the American people.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
We're talking to. Senator John Thune, explain to us, because
I'm curious myself. I don't know why a majority of
Senators voting for this, which Republicans have and which marshalled
itself last night, is not enough to make this a law.
The House passed it only two I believe Democrats voted
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for it in the House. By the way, zero senators
in the it voted for this on the Democrat side.
But you needed to get to sixty. Why explain that
for our audience.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, I know it's hard. It's an inside baseball thing here.
It's unique to the United States Senate. But under our
rules in the Senate, and this is kind of the
system that the founders standed us, it takes a super
m majority to do almost anything consequential. And this is
so sixty votes in the Senate is required to move
legislation with very few exceptions. And one of the things
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we're working on right now. You've probably heard your listeners
have probably heard too the President talk about budget reconciliation
when you have unified control of the government, in other words,
the House, the Senate, and the White House. There are
things you can do at fifty one votes in the
Senate that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do through
a procedure that is again unique to the Senate, but
on most issues, and this is an issue where you know,
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again it's a bill that we put in front of
the Senate, and this, honestly, this was just a motion
to proceed to the bill. This wasn't even this was
just to get on it, just to debate it. They
voted against even having a debate about it. And that
takes sixty as well. So it's a sixty vote threshold,
and I know that's for most Americans. Everybody's like, well,
it isn't fifty one a majority of the Senate. The
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answer is yes. But the rules of the Senate and
the history and the heritage of the Senate as such
that it requires as a supermajority on most legislation.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So what can you hopefully get done through that reconciliation process?
As some of the top agenda items we've seen this
this slew of executive orders coming out from Trump, a
lot of them we've been talking about here in the show.
We think they're doing great things. Of course, we all
also know that executive orders can be overturned by the
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next administration if in fact it's a Democrat. So legislation matters,
and we don't have a super majority. So Senator Thun,
you're the majority leader. What are some of the top
things you're hoping can get through the Senate, the House
and get signed by the President using that reconciliation process.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It's a long list, and we are going to do
everything we can and push the limits of what's allowable.
You know, there are limitations on how it can be used,
but the Democrats expanded the scope of reconciliation. They passed
two major major you know, the three trillion dollars worth
of new spending in two reconciliation bills, when they had
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unified control of the government, when they had House, Senate,
White House. So they've given us a template for how
to do it. Obviously, we have a very different agenda
than what they wanted to do, but we're united. We
want to enact all the President Trump's priorities as quickly
as possible, and that deals with the border, securing the borders,
it's bolstering our national defense, it's restoring American energy dominance
and preventing a fourtillion dollar tax increase at the end
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of the year on the American people. So you know,
we believe, and say Center Republicans believe, and I think
the President does too. And hopefully the House will get
there to make these tax cuts permanent so we don't
have to go back and deal with it again down
the road. But we're here. The Senates are ready to
enact as much as the President's agenda as we can
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through budget reconciliation, and that entails all the things I
just mentioned, And I hope that as we work through
this process, we will be as aggressive as we possibly
can to use that opportunity at a fifty one vote
threshold in the Senate as opposed to sixty to get
as much of the President's agenda done as possible.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
What's the timeframe to get that done. We've heard a
variety of different aspects out there. I heard early, Hey,
we hope to get this done by Easter. When do
you think these bills in particular are dealing with tax
cuts and the budget will be complete? As you look
at the calendar.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I think it's Easter is probably ambitious, I would say,
but I think that as we look at the kind
of the May time frame, obviously we got a deadline
that week after next March fourteenth, We've got to deal
with all the craft the Democrats left us, all the
pile up of spending. They didn't do any spending bills
last year, and so we're up against this deadline, and
we got to fund the government under the government shuts down.
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So that's the immediate concern. But then the reconciliation bill
starts with a budget resolution. Both the House and Senate
have to pass the same one, and right now we've
passed budget resolutions, but they're different. But we'll have to
we'll align those and then we will both act on it,
and then that creates that unlocks afiliation. The reconciliation is
another separate, big piece of legislation, and so it's really
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kind of a two step process, and it takes some time.
And these are complicated issues. I mean, the President wants
some things done in tax policy. We got a lot
of Senators and House members who want to see things
done in tax policy that are different than what's in
front of us. In terms of just, you know, a
strict extension of the current bill or the current tax policy.
But there are all these things as we move through,
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and these moving parts, and ultimately I tell people when
they ask me, can you do this? Can you do that?
Then in the end, it really comes down to the
two numbers that matter, two eighteen and fifty one. You
got to have two eighteen in the House. You got
to have a simple majority there, and even under reconciliation,
we still have to have fifty one goal to the Senate.
So that's the math of it, and as we think
through what we can do and can't do, it's a
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function of trying to figure out how do we get
this thing in a shape and whatever this bill looks
like that it can secure the necessary two hundred and
eighteen in the House and fifty one Senate we're.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Talking to set a majority. Leader John Thune, what do
you expect tonight? Let's shift gears to Trump's address tonight.
What do you expect to hear from the president? What
should our listeners expect to hear, and what sort of
reception do you expect to see from Democrats? I was
reading this morning that they're planning all sorts potentially of
outrageous and outlandish disruptions during the midst of this speech. Potentially,
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what do you expect, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Mean I think they will. The Democrats are I mean,
they're still in the stages of grief and they're really idle.
They they're trying to find a message, They're trying to
get some traction with something, and so far all it
is is whatever he's for, I'm going to be against.
I think that you know, Democrats right now are afflicted
with a really really bad case of Trump derangement syndrome.
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And so my assumption is that when they come tonight,
they're going to try and be disruptive. And but you know,
at the end of the day, I think American people
that's not what they want to see. I don't think
they want to see a bunch of lefty ideologues who
can't even bring themselves to vote to keep boys out
of girls sports, you know, creating a ruckus and disruptive
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to the President of the United States, who I think
will be there to talk about after four years of
you know, rising costs laws and at the southern border,
weakening of America on the world stage, and be talking
about turning the page and get our country back on track.
And I think it's a The President has a great
opportunity to present to the American people how things are
going to be in his second term, in what his
priorities are relative to the last four years under Biden.
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And you can just look already at what they've done
at the southern border, I mean, the top issue in
the last election, and this administration has been returning ordered
a short amount of time. Think about the month of February.
There were a few of the nine thousand crossings at
the southern border under Trump. That was a typical day
under Biden. I mean, this is this is how dramatically
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things have changed already as a result of President Trump's leadership.
And we want to be good partners for him and
do as much as we can to get his agenda
across the finish line, which is why we worked really
hard to get his cabinet confirmed as quickly as possible.
So it's I expect, you know, he got a decisive
mandates in the American people November, and I think he's
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going to be talking about not only what he's already done,
but what he's going to do in the four years
he has available to him to really change the direction
of this country in a way that gets it back
on track.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Majority Leader Thuon appreciate you making the time for us
on Clay and Buck. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Thanks, Thanks Clay, Thanks Block, talk to you fine out.
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Speaker 2 (29:07):
We are joined by Uncle Bill, very exciting Bill O'Reilly,
best selling author and commentator no spin news. Go check
out what he's got there. And also many many best sellers,
too many to read off on radio. But the last
one was confronting the Presidents, and you all know the
Killing series very well. He's also got the Three Americans
(29:29):
tour on kicking off of March thirtieth in Long Island.
So Bill tell us, let's let's jump into this actually,
because this was news to Clay into me. It sounds
like it's going to be a lot of fun. You
Steven A and Chris Cuomo all under one roof, all
talking to the folks.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, you guys got to get out. I got tickets
for you if you want to make the check up
to Long Island. It's an experiment. It's my production company,
and as you may know, I produced the History tour
with the Donald Trump, the Dennis Miller O'Reilly shows. We
had we got a big operation that does live stuff,
and I said, you know, I wonder if we could
(30:08):
put three really different guys together on stage and draw
a crowd that is dissimilar because today everybody's talking to
the choir, you know. And so I put this tour together.
It's going to be a blast. I mean, the show
(30:29):
is going to be fabulous. And we'll have heavy securities
overalls break out in the uh in the audience. We'll
be able to get that under control fast. But I'm
looking forward to it. You guys may have seen stephen
A and Quomo and me on News Nation. We will
be on tonight on the pre Trump speech. So it's
(30:50):
a good crew those guys are you know. I see
it differently than they do, but we all have a
sense of humor and we're respectful.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Built appreciate you coming on. I'm super intrigued to see
how this conversation goes. I'm curious on this. How would
you assess stephen A's motivations because for much of his
career he was a straight sports guy, and not to
say that he didn't have interest elsewhere, but he didn't
really step aggressively into the political arena. I would say
(31:23):
he's been on with me, We've done some conversations last
couple of years. Suddenly that has changed substantially. Now maybe
you can say, hey, twenty twenty four, it's just kind
of impossible to avoid the political arena. But to a
large extent, he had tried to avoid it. Why do
you think he's changed.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, Terry Bradshaw avoids it. So you know, look, he's
fifty seven years old, he's a very very smart guy.
He's at the top of the heap for sports. How
many you know Cleveland Cavalier games, can you call? I
mean so I think he's a little bored with it. Yeah,
(32:01):
he has an opportunity into public affairs, public policy because
he's so recognizable and articulate, and he's taken advantage of that,
and this happened before people have, you know, melded sports
with news, and I think it's a smart move on
(32:22):
his part. And he's so articulate that now the Washington
Post and all these people going, well, maybe Steven o
will run for president because the Democratic Party don't have anybody,
doesn't have anybody who run for president in four years,
so maybe it'll be Stephen A. And I told him
on the air, I said, that's because of Trump. Trump
opened up the presidency for everybody, and so Steve and
(32:47):
A has got a lot of traction with all this.
And we'll see what he's got on March thirtieth, you know,
because he's coming up against me.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Bill, if I could direct your attention here for a second,
I'm really curious what you're taking is on all this
tariff stuff. We haven't really dove into it yet today
on the show. I mean we mentioned at the top,
but we haven't really done our full segment on it.
So just by way of a prep and everybody, what
you're going to say, you got Justin Trudeau who's talking
(33:17):
tough and saying that Trump wants to take over all
of Canada destroy their economy. Mexico tariffs, China tariffs, Canada tariffs,
all this stuff. What do you make of this whole thing,
because I think it's tough to keep up with a
lot of the arguments and a lot of the specifics.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well, I know exactly what's going on because on January
tewod I sat in a cabinet meeting with President Trump
and six advisors and they discussed tarts, So I know
what's going on there. It's risky and stock markets down significantly.
(33:53):
People don't really understand what tariffs are. With Mexico. You're
basically saying you've better knock it off or we're going
to break your economy. And I understand that, and I
support that. Canada little bit different. I'm not sure what
the iyre is now. In the cabbinet meeting that I attended,
and that was at President Trump's invitation, there wasn't a
(34:17):
clear definition of why Canada and certain EU countries are
going to be punished by terms. The overarch is that
all of these countries take advantage of the United States economically,
which is true, so we buy a lot more gear
(34:38):
from them than they buy from US, and their governments
make it difficult for US to sell American products in
a lot of these countries. That really torques Trump off.
He wants that to go away, but in the meantime
he risks higher prices, and that'll be disaster for him
(35:01):
if that happens. And you know, the trade wars a retaliation.
Little Justin Trudeau is out strutting around tonight today about
what we're going to do X, Y and Z. I
expect this will all calm down, but there is damage
being done to the economy now. And I believe President
(35:22):
Trump knows that he's a gambler. He wants better deals.
But you've got to watch this on an almost hourly basis.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Bill, I agree with you on tariffs. We'll get into
that a little bit on the show. But how would
you analyze what happened Friday with Zolensky. You've known Trump
for a long time. I would even bet that sometimes
you may have gotten a little bit heated with President
Trump yourself over different perspectives that you guys may have gotten,
(35:55):
you know, crosswise on a little bit. One thing Trump
always shows is the guy doesn't hold a grudge, which
is so rare in politics. It almost doesn't exist. What
is going on here? What was your takeaway from Friday
and the subsequent reactions to that.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Okay, so again I'm right in the middle of this
because I know exactly what's happening here, and you're correct.
I mean, when I criticize President Trump, I get a
caller at tech. I got a call in the middle
of a football game at Tottenham Stadium in London in
October and he was actually yelling at me, And I said,
do you realize eighty thousand people are hearing this call
(36:34):
because I had the phone on speaker because I'm in
a stadium watching the Jets play the Vikings, and he's
yelling at me. I don't care, You're unfair, you know
that kind of thing. But you know a week later
then he's seeking my counsel, and you're right. He's not
a vindictive man when it's policy. When it gets personal, though,
(36:56):
watch out now, Zeliski has not into the personal realm.
So don't be surprised if tonight some deals annouced or
a few days from now, and then the Big Z
will be the greatest guy, because that's what Trump does.
If he wins and you give him what he wants,
(37:16):
then you are the greatest guy. And we've seen it
time and time and time again. Now was Alenski. He's immature,
That's number one. Everybody listening to Clay and Buck has
got to know that he's immature. And by that I
mean that he doesn't he's not able to control his emotions.
And if you're not able to control your emotions, you're immature.
(37:38):
So he walks into the White House and he's all
set to sign this deal. He had breakfast with eleven
senators at the head I'ms hotel in DC. I knew
about that, and this would drove me crazy when it
storry broke and the pundits go out and said it
was a setup. Remember that. Yeah, I knew that was
a lie, and I knew that anybody doing any research
(38:00):
on that would have found out what I found out.
That there was a big breakfast eleven senators Republicans and Democrats,
and there was look, just go along with Donald Trump,
do not challenge him, particularly in front of the press.
That was the invite. Every single senator gave him the
(38:22):
same advice, and he didn't take it because he got emotional.
And I understand that his country is suffering. I believe
that Zelenski wants to do well by his country. I
believe he's a corrupt midget or whatever they call him.
I don't believe that, But I don't think he's at
the status right now where he understands the big picture.
(38:45):
He's immature and he will not accept the fact that
Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. Period. They cannot win. No matter
how many billions of dollars we send them and US
sends them, they can't win. So you want this to
go on add infinitum. Then you strut around, you want
(39:08):
to settle it. You're going to have to give up
a little bit of territory, maybe eight to nine percent
of your country.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
It's Bill, can I ask you? Because I think this
is really important.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
The people that you know, you've said, you've articulated this well.
Clay and I have talked about this. We you meet Clay,
we all see this in the same way, which is
I think just reality based. The opposition to this, Is
it just opposition to Trump getting a win? Is it
just the emotions of supporting Ukraine and putting a little
flag on your Facebook page. It's too exciting for people
(39:39):
to give up because it seems to me, if Ukraine
can't win, and if we don't want to keep paying
for this for years, ad infinitum, as, you say, what
is the alternative to what Trump is trying to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Look, when you see a guy like Murphy the Senator
go out and say what he said about Trump is,
you know, part of the Kremlin or whatever. Ukraine has
nothing to do with that. Murphy is going out saying
this is what Murphy is saying. I want to destroy
Donald Trump, and I'm going to use anything and everything
(40:12):
to try to do that. Murphy doesn't know anything about Ukraine.
He has no solution to it. I mean, if if
Murphy sat across from me to you guys, know, what
would happen? Remember Barney Frank, Oh.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, okay, I do all right?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I mean I would It would take me three minutes
to reduce him to a puddle because he doesn't know anything.
But he uses this and so to many others to
try to destroy Trump. Not about Ukraine, it's about getting Trump.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I mean that is just.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
So cynical, even for Democrats. You got people just in
a meat grinder, dying in huge numbers on pok.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Side, calm Murphy up, get him on tomorrow and.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Say we'll come on.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You're right about this, come on. Of course he won't
come on. None of these guys will come on and
actually answer questions, because, to your point, we would slice
and dice him to such an extent that that they
would be done.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You have to think about it. All you have to
do is ask one question, what's the alternative? How would
you settle this? And it's quiet and that Dana Cash
on CNN. I used to respect her, She's the one
that put him on and she didn't even ask him
that question. By the way, Bill is going down to dream.
(41:31):
That's why nobody watches it.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
No, they have totally and completely collapsed. Question for you
that has nothing to do with all the serious things
you mentioned that you were over in London watching a
football game. I've done that to pretty fun, actual American football,
not soccer. Where should Aaron Rodgers go? And what if
he called you for advice instead of President Trump? What
would you tell him this to do? There's talk that
(41:54):
he's going to go to the Giants.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Now, no, he's not going to Giants. Yeah, he's through
in New York. If I were mister Rogers, who does
have some skills left. You've got to go to a
team that can protect you, and I probably would look
at some of the West Coast teams. He lives in Malibu,
(42:16):
which is not a great place to live right now
unless you have giant fire retardants.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yes, but I would.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know, I would probably go to Vegas because Brady
owns it, part of it. That's where I probably go.
You take a couple of guys with you from the
Jets receivers, and you pray that the Raider offensive line
can keep you upstanding. You know, you've got four seconds
(42:45):
to throw the ball. He can't move. You need four seconds.
He gets four, he can throw it. So that's probably
what I would do.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Bill. I'm actually really curious to hear how this thing goes.
We'll have to get you on with Steven A and
Chris Cuomo to hear how it all goes. When you guys,
he is the tour for interesting? Is the tour gonna?
Are you gonna do some extra cities or is it
just out of Long Island? Are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I might? I might do it, And we got to
see how this works. I'm shooting it, so you I'll
send you some clips. We got a three camera shoot
on it, and I got I gotta see because we're
all very busy. And you know, look, I'm ninety five
years old, drin How how long can I do this
(43:31):
around a country business? But if it goes really well,
then I'll do some other cities. But it just depends
on how it shakes. So again, it's March thirtieth, Sunday,
afternoon three because of the old people coming to see me,
and I want to keep them up too late. And
I promise this will be one of the best shows
(43:53):
that you have ever seen. It's better than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Okay, I would be their Bill, but I'm expecting a
baby within days of the event, so I think I
gotta I gotta hugger down.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
But Clay has no play has he loves to be
honest with you. Bill. I like you, but I think
i'd rather go see Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Oh you're out of your mine. You're crazy. This is
so much better. And I'm you know, I may sing,
I may oh, no, wobble a few tunes and uh,
I'm glad you're having a baby because my kid's best
thing I've ever done. My son just got it the Georgetown. Awesome,
congrats this program. Uh, he's going to be president someday.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We would not be surprised, does he is? He also
six seven because that helps in politics.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
He's six'. Five he's a lacrosse. Player but the most important,
thing he's, honest and he's kind and his personality is
not at all like, mine which makes him one lucky.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Guy bill, O'Reilly, Everybody, bill thank you so. Much as, Always,
well let's have let's talk again before the event to
make sure everybody we got a big long island. Listenership
let's make sure we get a lot of folks out
there because Then clay's going to make you go To
nashville and you know we're gonna were to take this
thing on the. Road thanks for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Time appreciate, It, mike That's bill.
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Podcasts all, right so welcome back To clay And. Buck
we had mentioned. This we'll just just spend a couple
of minutes on. This then we're gonna get into the
tariffs and the big. News BUT i JUST i think
it is interesting because we both watched this show because
our wives like the show and it's good enough that
we enjoy it. Too White lotus ON, hbo and there
(46:39):
was a scene where these. Three you can tell there
are three women of means in. There i'd say they're
all about forty five, ish, right maybe think that's about forty.
Five and they figure, out, well and they're in this
five star resort In, thailand which is where the whole
show is. Set and they figure, out wait a, second
(47:00):
once FROM, la one's From New. York one is From, Austin.
Texas Now texas obviously read But. Austin you never. Know
this is how the exchange goes play.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
IT i didn't know you went to? Church oh, yeah
we go Every. Sunday, yeah ever since we moved To.
Austin is it like a real textan, church like With bible?
Thumpers and, well the people are more conservative than LIKE
la people or Like New. York is that weird for?
(47:30):
You why would it be? WEIRD i don't.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Know IF i was just around a bunch Of texans
who voted For, TRUMP i GUESS i just feel a little.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Alienated they're nice, people really good, families. Cool but do
you ever talk politics with? Them Sometimes i'm going to get.
Awkward why would? It because, wait are you A? Republican?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
No, Wow i'm an?
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Independent But davis an? Independent since when you did not
vote For? Trump, though did? You are we really going
to talk About trump? TONIGHT i just love this same.
BUCK i have had versions of. That this like that
(48:15):
is exactly how it. Goes The libs keep digging, in
digging a little. More they're a little, outrage but they
want that. Reassurance, wait, wait, Wait i've BEEN i Mean
i've been on first dates where it was like, that
except it was, wait you you work For Glenn? Beck like,
That Glen, beck what do you do you like? Guns
And i'm, like, yes That's Glenn beck AND i love.
(48:35):
Guns and that was the. End there was no second.
DATE i bet there are hundreds of thousands of people
out there listening to us right, now maybe even, millions
that have had a conversation that is very similar to.
That because twelve million more people voted For trump in
twenty twenty four than twenty, sixteen a lot of people
(48:57):
have come on board The trump. Train AND i think
women in particular probably are responding to that because you
got THE la and let me say this. Book this
is WHY i think this is. Significant this is probably
the most popular show for entertainment people IN la And New.
York would you guess like everybody in the entertainment industry
(49:17):
in those two cities watching this, show and they aren't
playing Now, Austin texas not THE i think a lot
of you out there are Like. Austin they.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Should she should have been From dallas Or. Houston austin
would Be that did throw you. Off, yeah but, again
the vibe reed is not. Perfect but WHAT i thought
was interesting is and there's a later scene where the
women are talking about this other woman and they're like
gossiping about.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Her how in the world could she be Voting? Trump
they're not playing The trump voter as the cheap, laughs
stupid redneck un.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Intel they're not going they're not Going Tom hanks FROM
snl that's right where he really he really just it
was unfunny and took cheap shots in. It they're not
even it's just pathetic because the cheap shots don't even.
Land and it just showed that he's living in some
alternate political. Reality but, no that's that's what's so interesting
is is The trump voter. Woman if you watch this,
(50:12):
scene you, know all through the women are, like you,
know they're very, attractive they're very well. Dressed, Right so
there's no. Wealthy they're very wealthy educated. Women but The
trump voter is the most at least in this. Exchange,
now there's more episodes to. Common for all we, know
she could have like a pill addiction and be. Crazy you,
know this is you being the. Killer they could still you,
know the awful Deranged trump.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Supporter but but the way they nailed the they nailed
the dynamic of democrats for a long. Time.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Now think in any social, situation in any whether you're
in the, workplace whether you're at a you, know a friends,
barbecue a cocktail, party if they are surprised to find
A trump voter or A, republican which same thing, now
but in the midst they think that they're allowed to
take some kind of umbrage and put you through some,
(51:02):
interrogation whereas on the other, side it's, like, yeah you've
voted For, Kamala like, sorry you don't have good, judgment
but enjoy your, Burger.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Like we don't. Care, yeah that's, right that's. Right and
this reminds me Of Adam, carolla AND i guarantee you
there's a lot of our listeners In california right now
that are nodding along in a big. Way WHAT i
found In corolla mentioned this on the air with Us,
buck is that there are a lot of people who
are working on, shows the, grips the camera, guys the set,
(51:32):
builders who will come up and say, privately like, man
thank you for what you're, saying like you nailed it. Right.
Like in other, words the people standing in front of
the camera oftentimes are more outspoken politically on the. LEFT
a lot of the people that put these shows, on
that make them physically possible are Actually trump. Supporters and
(51:55):
the other thing about this is, Increasingly, buck a lot
of people who stand in front of the camera are
still kind of, hiding but they're also starting to take
like that half step out where we mentioned this with like,
comedians there are a lot of comedians out there that
Are trump supporting. COMEDIANS a lot of the people that
(52:17):
you watch and, like but they don't really Want AND
i get. It if my job was to talk to
one hundred percent of people and make them, LAUGH i
wouldn't want to come out stridently necessarily on one political
side of the equation or. Not IF i had. Everybody
this is my argument With Michael jordan back in the
Day republicans by sneakers. Too why were you not? Political,
(52:38):
Like i'm a great basketball. Player why WOULD i want
fifty percent of the population to like me less as
a basketball player because of my. Politics doesn't make any
sense to. Me BUT i do think this is a
super popular show and it is indicative of a major vibe.
Shift AND i don't know how many of you watch,
it BUT i guarantee, you if you're In New York
(52:59):
city OR la media entertainment, circles this is probably the
show that they watch more than any. Other and it
struck me On. Sunday it's Struck buck. Two we wanted
to play that for, you even if you don't watch
it as what the bibeshift can feel.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Like you, know you, know five years, ago or maybe
even two years, ago maybe even six months, ago The
trump voter in a pop culture context on AN hbo
show would have been you, know, yeah, LIKE i don't know,
anything BUT i just Love america and have my.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Flag you, know it would have been.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Mockery it would have been much more likely to be,
oh aren't They they're right to be outraged that this
woman voted For, trump or that you, know we're led
to believe she voted For, Trump whereas now what it
exposed a little more was these, libs these left wingers
are living in this delusion where they don't realize that
(53:56):
more than half the country voted For, trump and they
probably know a lot of people who voted For.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Trump not only that. Too some of you out there always,
SAY i don't know why you watch a show LIKE
i watch lots of shows where people might hate my
politics BECAUSE i THINK i can appreciate somebody's talent in
something while also recognizing that they may not have the
same opinion as. ME i don't presume that everybody is
(54:21):
going to think the exact same as. Me doesn't MEAN
i can't like a movie or a television show or
a sport for that. Matter BUT i do think that
this is emblematic of a recognition that there are a
lot of people like you and Me buck out, There
AND i bet there's a ton of women who love
(54:41):
White lotus two that almost in, FACT i go into my,
MENTIONS i, BET i bet you've had a conversation almost
identical to what those three women just had at some
point over the last eight. YEARS i think huge majorities
of the women listening to us right now who Voted
trump have had a conversation like that with their g.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
FRIENDS i think more women than, men speaking of women
who drink too much. Chardonnay Justin trudeau here he is amazing.
Transition thank. You here he is on the tariff. Issue
he was In, Ottawa canada today and he's he's very.
Upset he is not having a good one, here very
(55:23):
upset with the. Tariffs and this is what he says
is going to. Happen play.
Speaker 7 (55:26):
One they've chosen to launch a trade war that will
first and foremost Harm american. Families they've chosen to sabotage
their own agenda that was supposed to usher in a
new golden age for The United. States and they've chosen
to undermine the incredible work we've done together to tackle
(55:47):
the scourge that is, fentanyl a drug that must be
wiped from the face of the. Earth so on that,
point let me be crystal, clear there is absolutely no
justifiction or need whatsoever for these tariffs, Today, clay.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
How much of what's going? On bill O'Reilly mentioned this
earlier in The hours a great. Interview go back and
listen if you missed. It on the Clan buck. Podcast
how much of this we Know, mexico there's there's very
real national, security, fentinel economic a whole range of issues
that the tariffs touch on there that we you, know
that's its own set of. Things With, canada how much
(56:28):
of this is Just trump wants to Give Justin trudeau
a weggie and push him into the locker in front of.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Everybody you.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
KNOW i wonder how much of this is driven by
just Teaching trudeau a. LESSON i think it's an interesting.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Question the tariff debate in general is a difficult one
BECAUSE i don't know where the end goal actually rest
Buck WHEREAS i can tell, you, Hey trump definitely wants
to cease fire In, ukraine and he wants there to
be peace, there and he wants peace in The Middle,
east what is the sweat spot on the. TARIFF i
(57:01):
don't have an answer on, that RIGHT i don't have
a direct. Answer, obviously big picture it is we need
to manufacture more goods in The United. States we need
more jobs in The United. STATES i understand. That but
in terms of practical, impact what is the sweet spot
where he would, say, hey you know, what this is
where we're getting the balance that we WANT i don't know,
(57:22):
it and SO i think that is the more challenging
aspect of. THIS i do think That trump feels That
canada And mexico have taken advantage of The United states
and trade agreements for some, time AND i do think
he's accurate about, that and that we have, bled to
a large extent a lot of our manufacturing jobs as a.
RESULT i think he's correct about, that and That mexico
(57:45):
is not doing enough to stop the flow of, fentanyl
which is killing one hundred thousand people a year in
The United. States all of those things. True china of
facilitating that as. Well but what does success look like?
There success In ukraine is no more no more were people.
Dying success in The Middle east is no more. War
(58:06):
what is success on? TARIFFS i don't. Know the answer to.
That bordi of success is nobody crossing, illegally which we.
GOT i think What trump wants ultimately is reciprocity from
these countries because there are a lot of tariffs that
they have AGAINST us. Goods and this is where people
in this, argument you, know W'ERE i, Understand we're we're
(58:28):
told by the.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
The economic expert industrial complex that tariffs are, attacks and
tariffs are, bad and tariffs can't we won't help. Us right,
there there's STILL i think a pretty broad sense of
that going. On and yet why does why Does china
have all these tariffs AGAINST us? Goods why Does canada
have all these? Tariffs why does THE eu have all
these tariffs against THE us? Goods if it's so manifestly
(58:53):
not advantageous to have, tariffs why do these countries have
them against? Us And CLAY i think that also leads
to What trump wants is for them not to do.
That and so by saying and this is a little
bit like the trade war issue With. China from the
First trump, administration people kept, saying oh, no he's going
to start a trade war With. China anybody who understood
(59:14):
THE Us china trade situation would tell.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
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into both people would were playing. Hardball SO i think
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Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. I hope all
of you are having a fabulous Tuesday. News coming, as
it often does during the Trump regime, at a rapid fashion.
We will dive into all of it here momentarily. Reminder,
Trump is also speaking tonight in front of a joint
(00:21):
session of Congress, a usual State of the Union, although
I think in the year after the election it's not
officially called the State of the Union, but that is
what will be going on tonight and many will be
watching to see what the President says. Let me give
you a little bit of a roadmap we're headed. Senate
Majority Leader John Thune going to be on with us
(00:42):
at the bottom of this hour. Every single Democrat senator
voted against men being prohibited from playing in women's sports.
In other words, they support men who identify as women
being able to compete in women's sports. Every single Democrat senator.
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It's crazy. Our friend Bill O'Reilly will join us at
the top of the next hour. That is where we
are headed. But Buck, the biggest news that is out
there in the last hour, Zelensky has decided to ben
the need to Donald Trump and beg for peace. Let
me read a little bit of what he said. I
(01:27):
would like This is Zelenski's Twitter account. I would like
to reiterate Ukraine's commitment to peace. None of us wants
in endless war. Ukraine is ready to come to the
negotiating table as soon as possible to bring lasting peace closer.
Nobody wants peace more than the Ukrainians. My team and
I stand ready to work under President trump strong leadership
(01:51):
to get a piece that lasts. We value how much
America has done. Our meeting in Washington at the White
House on Friday not go that way. It was supposed
to be regrettable that it happened this way. It's time
to make things right. We would like future cooperation and
communication to be constructive. Regarding the agreement on minerals and Security,
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Ukraine is ready to sign it anytime and in any
convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward
greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope
it will work effectively. All Right, Friday, the blow up, Tuesday,
the apology again, that statement a little bit longer, Buck,
(02:36):
What do you think people should take from this situation
that we are currently in with Ukraine? And where do
we go from here?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, Trump is doing what he does, which is a
non traditional approach to try to solve problems.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And I think that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
The people who have at every step of the every
step of the way question came under him said he's crazy,
he said he's a dictator, are doing what they always do,
which is more of that. When you look at what
has already occurred, it does seem to be that Trump
is using the leverage that he should use on issues
that matter to get us to a better resolution. All
(03:17):
that really counts, and this is contra the diplomacy, State Department,
Foreign policy consensus mindset. All that really matters is the results, right,
All that really matters is when something happens in response
to a decision, an action and agreement that Trump has taken.
How we get there, I think is far less important.
(03:41):
And so, yes, was it a little bit of a
surprise to see that dust up in the Oval office?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Do I think that Zelensky was the one who instigated it? Largely? Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And now are we back in a place where Zelenski
is saying all the things that we wanted to hear
from him the.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
First time around? Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
So that to me indicates that Trump is on the
right track. I also think that this is forced out
into public view, that the people who just are all
about the Ukrainian fight and don't ever go beyond Ukraine
is the good guy, Russia is the bad guy, are
being forced to justify in public, what exactly is your
(04:19):
plan if this war goes on for another five years?
In what way is Ukraine in a better position then
than they are in now? Russia has more men, more material,
more North Korean troops, I might add, pouring in. Russia
has allies who are working directly in this fight, and
we refuse to do that. That is our redline. So
(04:41):
how is Ukraine going to be in a better position
other than losing a lot of our money and a
lot of their men. They don't have an answer to this.
Trump knows that. So we're trying to get to where
we are with the deal now, Clay, if the negotiations
were to break down because what Putin wants is just
so unthinkable, is so beyond the pale, well at least
(05:02):
we would know that, right at least then we can
have a conversation. Okay, Putin really is being crazier than anticipated.
On this, So maybe he does need to suffer the
consequences a little bit more or whatever, But right now
there's no reason to believe that the option that the
Ukraine hardliners want to take is better.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Look where we are right now, and my wife has
been fired up about this, so she will not stop
talking about it. I do think that the United States
has created much of this mess, meaning the invasion, the
battles over territory, and all that's happening now is Trump
(05:46):
is trying to clean up the mess. Right You go
back to the agreement when Ukraine gave up their nukes,
there was some form of protection agreement entered into and
Ukraine took it as the United States won't let Russia invadas.
Obviously Obama did not take it that way. Biden did
(06:07):
not take it that way. Russia has for a long
time not wanted NATO on its border. We have continued
to expand NATO to Russia's border, and I think this
war is actually a result of much of the failure
of American policy, both as it pertains to Ukraine and
(06:29):
to Russia significantly, buck none of which Trump was involved
in remotely. So he is now in this mess where
he is trying to end up in a situation where
he's trying to put this all back right, and so
the United States is not blameless here. We want to
(06:50):
be saying, oh Slava Ukraine. Ukraine is the hero and
Russia is the villain. America is not coming to this
situation with clean hands. We have, in many ways created,
I believe, a total mess, and now Trump is trying
to clean it up, and so I hope that we
can get a ceasefire here and that people can stop dying.
(07:14):
My concern, Buck is, now we're moving into okay, what
does the negotiated piece look like? What does a ceasefire
look like? It seems to me, and I'm curious if
you would agree with this that to a large extent,
wherever the lines are drawn now where the stellmate has
basically come to exist, it feels to me like Russia
(07:35):
is going to get a large percentage of those eastern
parts of Ukraine. Where exactly that line is drawn will
be a huge debate. And then I hope that Russia
doesn't decide to invade again. I don't think it will
happen with Trump in office. But my concern is if
(07:56):
Kamala Harris or Gavin Newsom or whomever the Andrew Cuomo.
If one of those guys or gals were to win
in twenty twenty eight, I think Putin would go right
back to invading again, because I'm not sure he would
respect the Democrats, as he has shown he did not
respect Obama and as he has shown he did not
(08:16):
respect Biden.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Are There's some very fundamental questions here that I think
Trump sees properly, and one of them is.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Do we care enough?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Do we as Americans care enough about who's in control
of twenty five percent or so fifteen twenty percent of
Ukraine that we're willing to lose American soldiers and spend billions,
perhaps even trillions of dollars, never mind the possibility of
a nuclear nuclear exchange, which is the euphemism, of course
(08:49):
we use for nuking each other's militaries in the theater,
which would be horrifying. Are we willing to do those things? No,
we're not, And so at some point level, this is
all just I think a recognition that there's going to
be an ability that Russia has in its sphere of
(09:09):
influence here or to expand its sphere of influence here
because it's not a NATO country, and because we don't
want to do their fighting for them, and so there
are limitations on what we're willing to do. There are
also limitations on the timeframe in which we're willing to
continue doing what we are already doing in terms of
the money and materil and training and everything else that
(09:32):
we have been giving them. This is a messy situation.
It's terrible how much life has been lost here. You
brought up Clay, and this is true. You go back
to the you know, the Maidan and Yanakovich and the
efforts to figure out who's going to be in charge
(09:52):
of Ukraine, stretching back now over a decade, the West
backing one side, Russia backing another. You know, we've been
playing with this as some kind of a proxy territory
for much longer than there have even been bullets flying
over there. So to get this thing to be no
longer a festering sore, but to be in a position
(10:14):
where there's an agreement going forward, you know, as far
as the Russians are concerned, look at the dismemberment that
the Soviet Union suffered into all these different countries and
all these breakaway republics. For them, the notion that the
map is now and forever going to remain the map
is laughable, clearly, and they very much feel that way,
(10:36):
and that's why they've been willing to go to this extent.
And you'll notice that no one even talks anymore about
how Putin's going to be overthrown or all this. People
said moronic stuff, and I mean us senators, I don't
have to name them, I could name them in the
very beginning of this conflict, delusional about how we'd be
able to defeat the Russian war machine in this theater
(10:57):
without actually engaging US military forces in the process. So
we just want this whole thing to end. I think
there's tremendous frustration with it. I think it also Clay
comes out of fighting in multiple decades long counterinsurgency g
WATT wars in the Mid East that what did we get?
What did we get in Afghanistan? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's a really tough one to answer. What did we
get in Iraq?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Even isn't it funny? Afghanistan was the good war. We
basically got nothing. We ended up killing Bin Laden in
Pakistan everybody, So you know, we didn't really get very
much for our Afghanistan efforts, did we?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And then you look.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
At Iraq and you know it's marginal right now that
it's better now than it was under Saddam Hussein. So
there's been there's been a lot of reason for us
to see what's gone on with the US foreign policy
and military interventions and say, have we learned the lesson Clay?
And I think that's I think that's Trump's fundamental guiding
(11:54):
principle on this. Have we learned the lesson?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Do you think we have? I'm not sure that we
have that we haven't. Actually, I think that's a very
good yes. I think that. Unfortunately, there are a lot
of people still who think, oh, no, you don't understand
we could do this.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
And I don't know if they've just been playing too
much call of duty or I don't get it. I
don't know why they would think that this is going
to be something that we want to get deeper and
more involved in. I do not care who is in
charge of CRIMEA, meaning I do not care enough that
I want to sacrifice a single American or any American
interest for CRIMEA. For Don bas or Lahnsk and Donetsk.
(12:31):
In these places, I do not care. Now that doesn't
mean I don't care about the suffering of the people there.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But Clay, I care about the suffering the people in
South Sudan as well, which is going through yet another
mass genocide situation and slow motion. But we're not about
to land troops there either.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Here's do you agree with me on a positive side
if we can get a cease fire. I actually feel
like Vladimir Putin will not invade Ukraine further while Trump
is in office. Do you agree with that that he
respects Trump enough that he won't do it? I do.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I think that he recognizes that. You know Trump, Trump
is willing to upset the Apple card. You don't want
to tick him off. No one even thought Biden was
leading the country, So who cares, doesn't matter what he says.
So the concern is not necessarily the next three years.
It's again, well, you and I've been talking about and
I think it's something that everybody out there needs to realize.
You can believe that Trump is amazing and doing phenomenal
(13:24):
things than we do. Guys, four years is not enough
to fix a lot of what ails the United States
We've got to stick and stack several different wins together,
one after the other. And that's why I'm already kind
of focused on what happens in twenty six next year,
and what happens in twenty eight, because as enjoyable as
every single day is with Trump in office right now,
(13:47):
it's a date certain when it comes to a close,
and a lot of our enemies out there are going
to be sitting around hoping that they can get President
Kamala Harris or President Gavin Newsom or President Andrew Cuomo,
whoever the Democrats are going to elevate to run.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We got to stack together a lot of different wins
because the problems we have are so substantial.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You just heard clet say it, and it's true. Trump
can't fix all of our problems. He's doing great stuff,
but there's a lot that is still going to be
very challenging over these next four years and are going
to be problems for years to come. The debt is
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(14:32):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We got
a lot to talk about with this man. The Senate
majority leader from South Dakota, John Thune. Appreciate him joining
us right now. Big night on Capitol Hill with Trump
addressing Congress. We'll get to that in a moment, but Senator,
appreciate you making the time. I wanted to start with this.
I still can't believe this is real. Every single Democrat
(15:59):
center opposed a bill that would keep men from competing
in women's sports. That is, every Democrats senator that voted
were you can you believe this has become a political issue.
And given the fact that seventy nine percent of Americans
agree men should play men's sports women should play women,
(16:21):
including sixty seven percent of Democrats, what in the world
are Democrats thinking on this bill?
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Right? Well, you get good question, guys. I mean, I
just it's mind blowing to me that this has become
a political issue where the Democrats are so tethered to
their I guess transgender ideological political base that they're willing
to throw common sense out the window. I mean, this
is just to me almost incomprehensible that we even having
(16:52):
this conversation. It's, you know, having biological males as the
opponents of young women, and is both fundamentally unfair and
it's potentially dangerous, honestly, And so you know, Coach Hubberville,
Tommy Tubraviille, the senator from Alabama, led this on the floor.
We had a vote on it last night, and you
are correct. Every single Democrat to the person voted against it.
(17:16):
And it's an eighty twenty issue, as you point out,
with the American people. So I just I can't explain it.
I think they did there was no lesson learned from
the election. I think it's common sense issues like this
that the American people expect their leaders to act on,
and they just block voted against it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What can you say, Senator Thune when they vote against it? Though?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Are they claiming publicly? I'm just wondering because this has
just happened, and it's hard to believe that they just
did this for a lot of us. But I guess
if you've been paying attention to Democrats, insanity is not
new to them. But are they saying there's some problem
in the text of the bill or some procedural or
are they openly just saying we think dudes should be
able to play against ladies and that's the way it
(18:02):
should be.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's really honestly the substance
of it. You know, you could say that the bill
could be changed this here that way, but it's there.
It's really very straightforward. And you know, I mean, and
there was a day when Democrats would have been, you know,
quick to defend Title nine and and here we are.
But you know, I mean, this is again I had
(18:23):
I mentioned this from the floorya to day, but I
had a business professor and graduate school who used to say,
some things are just intuitively obvious, and and I think
this is one of those things that's intuitively obvious to people.
And I, you know, something obviously feel strongly about. I'm
as a father of two women who played sports, and
you know, one of whom is in our high school
(18:44):
and college hall of fame. I just I can't imagine
a world where you would have guys competing against women
and taking away opportunities not only to excel in their
and their field and their sport, but also for college
scholarships and things that this has serious dounstream consequences. But
the Democrats on a substance level, on a political level
(19:05):
seem to have made a decision that they would rather
defend again in ideology that is completely out of step
with the American people.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
We're talking to. Senator John Thune, explain to us, because
I'm curious myself. I don't know why a majority of
Senators voting for this, which Republicans have and which marshalled
itself last night, is not enough to make this a law.
The House passed it only two I believe Democrats voted
(19:36):
for it in the House. By the way, zero senators
in the it voted for this on the Democrat side.
But you needed to get to sixty. Why explain that
for our audience.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, I know it's hard. It's an inside baseball thing here.
It's unique to the United States Senate. But under our
rules in the Senate, and this is kind of the
system that the founders standed us, it takes a super
m majority to do almost anything consequential. And this is
so sixty votes in the Senate is required to move
legislation with very few exceptions. And one of the things
(20:11):
we're working on right now. You've probably heard your listeners
have probably heard too the President talk about budget reconciliation
when you have unified control of the government, in other words,
the House, the Senate, and the White House. There are
things you can do at fifty one votes in the
Senate that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do through
a procedure that is again unique to the Senate, but
on most issues, and this is an issue where you know,
(20:32):
again it's a bill that we put in front of
the Senate, and this, honestly, this was just a motion
to proceed to the bill. This wasn't even this was
just to get on it, just to debate it. They
voted against even having a debate about it. And that
takes sixty as well. So it's a sixty vote threshold,
and I know that's for most Americans. Everybody's like, well,
it isn't fifty one a majority of the Senate. The
(20:54):
answer is yes. But the rules of the Senate and
the history and the heritage of the Senate as such
that it requires as a supermajority on most legislation.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So what can you hopefully get done through that reconciliation process?
As some of the top agenda items we've seen this
this slew of executive orders coming out from Trump, a
lot of them we've been talking about here in the show.
We think they're doing great things. Of course, we all
also know that executive orders can be overturned by the
(21:23):
next administration if in fact it's a Democrat. So legislation matters,
and we don't have a super majority. So Senator Thun,
you're the majority leader. What are some of the top
things you're hoping can get through the Senate, the House
and get signed by the President using that reconciliation process.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
It's a long list, and we are going to do
everything we can and push the limits of what's allowable.
You know, there are limitations on how it can be used,
but the Democrats expanded the scope of reconciliation. They passed
two major major you know, the three trillion dollars worth
of new spending in two reconciliation bills, when they had
(22:03):
unified control of the government, when they had House, Senate,
White House. So they've given us a template for how
to do it. Obviously, we have a very different agenda
than what they wanted to do, but we're united. We
want to enact all the President Trump's priorities as quickly
as possible, and that deals with the border, securing the borders,
it's bolstering our national defense, it's restoring American energy dominance
and preventing a fourtillion dollar tax increase at the end
(22:25):
of the year on the American people. So you know,
we believe, and say Center Republicans believe, and I think
the President does too. And hopefully the House will get
there to make these tax cuts permanent so we don't
have to go back and deal with it again down
the road. But we're here. The Senates are ready to
enact as much as the President's agenda as we can
(22:46):
through budget reconciliation, and that entails all the things I
just mentioned, And I hope that as we work through
this process, we will be as aggressive as we possibly
can to use that opportunity at a fifty one vote
threshold in the Senate as opposed to sixty to get
as much of the President's agenda done as possible.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
What's the timeframe to get that done. We've heard a
variety of different aspects out there. I heard early, Hey,
we hope to get this done by Easter. When do
you think these bills in particular are dealing with tax
cuts and the budget will be complete? As you look
at the calendar.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I think it's Easter is probably ambitious, I would say,
but I think that as we look at the kind
of the May time frame, obviously we got a deadline
that week after next March fourteenth, We've got to deal
with all the craft the Democrats left us, all the
pile up of spending. They didn't do any spending bills
last year, and so we're up against this deadline, and
we got to fund the government under the government shuts down.
(23:42):
So that's the immediate concern. But then the reconciliation bill
starts with a budget resolution. Both the House and Senate
have to pass the same one, and right now we've
passed budget resolutions, but they're different. But we'll have to
we'll align those and then we will both act on it,
and then that creates that unlocks afiliation. The reconciliation is
another separate, big piece of legislation, and so it's really
(24:05):
kind of a two step process, and it takes some time.
And these are complicated issues. I mean, the President wants
some things done in tax policy. We got a lot
of Senators and House members who want to see things
done in tax policy that are different than what's in
front of us. In terms of just, you know, a
strict extension of the current bill or the current tax policy.
But there are all these things as we move through,
(24:26):
and these moving parts, and ultimately I tell people when
they ask me, can you do this? Can you do that?
Then in the end, it really comes down to the
two numbers that matter, two eighteen and fifty one. You
got to have two eighteen in the House. You got
to have a simple majority there, and even under reconciliation,
we still have to have fifty one goal to the Senate.
So that's the math of it, and as we think
through what we can do and can't do, it's a
(24:49):
function of trying to figure out how do we get
this thing in a shape and whatever this bill looks
like that it can secure the necessary two hundred and
eighteen in the House and fifty one Senate we're.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Talking to set a majority. Leader John Thune, what do
you expect tonight? Let's shift gears to Trump's address tonight.
What do you expect to hear from the president? What
should our listeners expect to hear, and what sort of
reception do you expect to see from Democrats? I was
reading this morning that they're planning all sorts potentially of
outrageous and outlandish disruptions during the midst of this speech. Potentially,
(25:24):
what do you expect, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Mean I think they will. The Democrats are I mean,
they're still in the stages of grief and they're really idle.
They they're trying to find a message, They're trying to
get some traction with something, and so far all it
is is whatever he's for, I'm going to be against.
I think that you know, Democrats right now are afflicted
with a really really bad case of Trump derangement syndrome.
(25:49):
And so my assumption is that when they come tonight,
they're going to try and be disruptive. And but you know,
at the end of the day, I think American people
that's not what they want to see. I don't think
they want to see a bunch of lefty ideologues who
can't even bring themselves to vote to keep boys out
of girls sports, you know, creating a ruckus and disruptive
(26:12):
to the President of the United States, who I think
will be there to talk about after four years of
you know, rising costs laws and at the southern border,
weakening of America on the world stage, and be talking
about turning the page and get our country back on track.
And I think it's a The President has a great
opportunity to present to the American people how things are
going to be in his second term, in what his
priorities are relative to the last four years under Biden.
(26:34):
And you can just look already at what they've done
at the southern border, I mean, the top issue in
the last election, and this administration has been returning ordered
a short amount of time. Think about the month of February.
There were a few of the nine thousand crossings at
the southern border under Trump. That was a typical day
under Biden. I mean, this is this is how dramatically
(26:55):
things have changed already as a result of President Trump's leadership.
And we want to be good partners for him and
do as much as we can to get his agenda
across the finish line, which is why we worked really
hard to get his cabinet confirmed as quickly as possible.
So it's I expect, you know, he got a decisive
mandates in the American people November, and I think he's
(27:18):
going to be talking about not only what he's already done,
but what he's going to do in the four years
he has available to him to really change the direction
of this country in a way that gets it back
on track.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Majority Leader Thuon appreciate you making the time for us
on Clay and Buck. We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Thanks, Thanks Clay, Thanks Block, talk to you fine out.
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Speaker 2 (29:07):
We are joined by Uncle Bill, very exciting Bill O'Reilly,
best selling author and commentator no spin news. Go check
out what he's got there. And also many many best sellers,
too many to read off on radio. But the last
one was confronting the Presidents, and you all know the
Killing series very well. He's also got the Three Americans
(29:29):
tour on kicking off of March thirtieth in Long Island.
So Bill tell us, let's let's jump into this actually,
because this was news to Clay into me. It sounds
like it's going to be a lot of fun. You
Steven A and Chris Cuomo all under one roof, all
talking to the folks.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yeah, you guys got to get out. I got tickets
for you if you want to make the check up
to Long Island. It's an experiment. It's my production company,
and as you may know, I produced the History tour
with the Donald Trump, the Dennis Miller O'Reilly shows. We
had we got a big operation that does live stuff,
and I said, you know, I wonder if we could
(30:08):
put three really different guys together on stage and draw
a crowd that is dissimilar because today everybody's talking to
the choir, you know. And so I put this tour together.
It's going to be a blast. I mean, the show
(30:29):
is going to be fabulous. And we'll have heavy securities
overalls break out in the uh in the audience. We'll
be able to get that under control fast. But I'm
looking forward to it. You guys may have seen stephen
A and Quomo and me on News Nation. We will
be on tonight on the pre Trump speech. So it's
(30:50):
a good crew those guys are you know. I see
it differently than they do, but we all have a
sense of humor and we're respectful.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Built appreciate you coming on. I'm super intrigued to see
how this conversation goes. I'm curious on this. How would
you assess stephen A's motivations because for much of his
career he was a straight sports guy, and not to
say that he didn't have interest elsewhere, but he didn't
really step aggressively into the political arena. I would say
(31:23):
he's been on with me, We've done some conversations last
couple of years. Suddenly that has changed substantially. Now maybe
you can say, hey, twenty twenty four, it's just kind
of impossible to avoid the political arena. But to a
large extent, he had tried to avoid it. Why do
you think he's changed.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, Terry Bradshaw avoids it. So you know, look, he's
fifty seven years old, he's a very very smart guy.
He's at the top of the heap for sports. How
many you know Cleveland Cavalier games, can you call? I
mean so I think he's a little bored with it. Yeah,
(32:01):
he has an opportunity into public affairs, public policy because
he's so recognizable and articulate, and he's taken advantage of that,
and this happened before people have, you know, melded sports
with news, and I think it's a smart move on
(32:22):
his part. And he's so articulate that now the Washington
Post and all these people going, well, maybe Steven o
will run for president because the Democratic Party don't have anybody,
doesn't have anybody who run for president in four years,
so maybe it'll be Stephen A. And I told him
on the air, I said, that's because of Trump. Trump
opened up the presidency for everybody, and so Steve and
(32:47):
A has got a lot of traction with all this.
And we'll see what he's got on March thirtieth, you know,
because he's coming up against me.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Bill, if I could direct your attention here for a second,
I'm really curious what you're taking is on all this
tariff stuff. We haven't really dove into it yet today
on the show. I mean we mentioned at the top,
but we haven't really done our full segment on it.
So just by way of a prep and everybody, what
you're going to say, you got Justin Trudeau who's talking
(33:17):
tough and saying that Trump wants to take over all
of Canada destroy their economy. Mexico tariffs, China tariffs, Canada tariffs,
all this stuff. What do you make of this whole thing,
because I think it's tough to keep up with a
lot of the arguments and a lot of the specifics.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well, I know exactly what's going on because on January
tewod I sat in a cabinet meeting with President Trump
and six advisors and they discussed tarts, So I know
what's going on there. It's risky and stock markets down significantly.
(33:53):
People don't really understand what tariffs are. With Mexico. You're
basically saying you've better knock it off or we're going
to break your economy. And I understand that, and I
support that. Canada little bit different. I'm not sure what
the iyre is now. In the cabbinet meeting that I attended,
and that was at President Trump's invitation, there wasn't a
(34:17):
clear definition of why Canada and certain EU countries are
going to be punished by terms. The overarch is that
all of these countries take advantage of the United States economically,
which is true, so we buy a lot more gear
(34:38):
from them than they buy from US, and their governments
make it difficult for US to sell American products in
a lot of these countries. That really torques Trump off.
He wants that to go away, but in the meantime
he risks higher prices, and that'll be disaster for him
(35:01):
if that happens. And you know, the trade wars a retaliation.
Little Justin Trudeau is out strutting around tonight today about
what we're going to do X, Y and Z. I
expect this will all calm down, but there is damage
being done to the economy now. And I believe President
(35:22):
Trump knows that he's a gambler. He wants better deals.
But you've got to watch this on an almost hourly basis.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Bill, I agree with you on tariffs. We'll get into
that a little bit on the show. But how would
you analyze what happened Friday with Zolensky. You've known Trump
for a long time. I would even bet that sometimes
you may have gotten a little bit heated with President
Trump yourself over different perspectives that you guys may have gotten,
(35:55):
you know, crosswise on a little bit. One thing Trump
always shows is the guy doesn't hold a grudge, which
is so rare in politics. It almost doesn't exist. What
is going on here? What was your takeaway from Friday
and the subsequent reactions to that.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Okay, so again I'm right in the middle of this
because I know exactly what's happening here, and you're correct.
I mean, when I criticize President Trump, I get a
caller at tech. I got a call in the middle
of a football game at Tottenham Stadium in London in
October and he was actually yelling at me, And I said,
do you realize eighty thousand people are hearing this call
(36:34):
because I had the phone on speaker because I'm in
a stadium watching the Jets play the Vikings, and he's
yelling at me. I don't care, You're unfair, you know
that kind of thing. But you know a week later
then he's seeking my counsel, and you're right. He's not
a vindictive man when it's policy. When it gets personal, though,
(36:56):
watch out now, Zeliski has not into the personal realm.
So don't be surprised if tonight some deals annouced or
a few days from now, and then the Big Z
will be the greatest guy, because that's what Trump does.
If he wins and you give him what he wants,
(37:16):
then you are the greatest guy. And we've seen it
time and time and time again. Now was Alenski. He's immature,
That's number one. Everybody listening to Clay and Buck has
got to know that he's immature. And by that I
mean that he doesn't he's not able to control his emotions.
And if you're not able to control your emotions, you're immature.
(37:38):
So he walks into the White House and he's all
set to sign this deal. He had breakfast with eleven
senators at the head I'ms hotel in DC. I knew
about that, and this would drove me crazy when it
storry broke and the pundits go out and said it
was a setup. Remember that. Yeah, I knew that was
a lie, and I knew that anybody doing any research
(38:00):
on that would have found out what I found out.
That there was a big breakfast eleven senators Republicans and Democrats,
and there was look, just go along with Donald Trump,
do not challenge him, particularly in front of the press.
That was the invite. Every single senator gave him the
(38:22):
same advice, and he didn't take it because he got emotional.
And I understand that his country is suffering. I believe
that Zelenski wants to do well by his country. I
believe he's a corrupt midget or whatever they call him.
I don't believe that, But I don't think he's at
the status right now where he understands the big picture.
(38:45):
He's immature and he will not accept the fact that
Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. Period. They cannot win. No matter
how many billions of dollars we send them and US
sends them, they can't win. So you want this to
go on add infinitum. Then you strut around, you want
(39:08):
to settle it. You're going to have to give up
a little bit of territory, maybe eight to nine percent
of your country.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
It's Bill, can I ask you? Because I think this
is really important.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
The people that you know, you've said, you've articulated this well.
Clay and I have talked about this. We you meet Clay,
we all see this in the same way, which is
I think just reality based. The opposition to this, Is
it just opposition to Trump getting a win? Is it
just the emotions of supporting Ukraine and putting a little
flag on your Facebook page. It's too exciting for people
(39:39):
to give up because it seems to me, if Ukraine
can't win, and if we don't want to keep paying
for this for years, ad infinitum, as, you say, what
is the alternative to what Trump is trying to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Look, when you see a guy like Murphy the Senator
go out and say what he said about Trump is,
you know, part of the Kremlin or whatever. Ukraine has
nothing to do with that. Murphy is going out saying
this is what Murphy is saying. I want to destroy
Donald Trump, and I'm going to use anything and everything
(40:12):
to try to do that. Murphy doesn't know anything about Ukraine.
He has no solution to it. I mean, if if
Murphy sat across from me to you guys, know, what
would happen? Remember Barney Frank, Oh.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, okay, I do all right?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I mean I would It would take me three minutes
to reduce him to a puddle because he doesn't know anything.
But he uses this and so to many others to
try to destroy Trump. Not about Ukraine, it's about getting Trump.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I mean that is just.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
So cynical, even for Democrats. You got people just in
a meat grinder, dying in huge numbers on pok.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Side, calm Murphy up, get him on tomorrow and.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Say we'll come on.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You're right about this, come on. Of course he won't
come on. None of these guys will come on and
actually answer questions, because, to your point, we would slice
and dice him to such an extent that that they
would be done.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You have to think about it. All you have to
do is ask one question, what's the alternative? How would
you settle this? And it's quiet and that Dana Cash
on CNN. I used to respect her, She's the one
that put him on and she didn't even ask him
that question. By the way, Bill is going down to dream.
(41:31):
That's why nobody watches it.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
No, they have totally and completely collapsed. Question for you
that has nothing to do with all the serious things
you mentioned that you were over in London watching a
football game. I've done that to pretty fun, actual American football,
not soccer. Where should Aaron Rodgers go? And what if
he called you for advice instead of President Trump? What
would you tell him this to do? There's talk that
(41:54):
he's going to go to the Giants.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Now, no, he's not going to Giants. Yeah, he's through
in New York. If I were mister Rogers, who does
have some skills left. You've got to go to a
team that can protect you, and I probably would look
at some of the West Coast teams. He lives in Malibu,
(42:16):
which is not a great place to live right now
unless you have giant fire retardants.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yes, but I would.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know, I would probably go to Vegas because Brady
owns it, part of it. That's where I probably go.
You take a couple of guys with you from the
Jets receivers, and you pray that the Raider offensive line
can keep you upstanding. You know, you've got four seconds
(42:45):
to throw the ball. He can't move. You need four seconds.
He gets four, he can throw it. So that's probably
what I would do.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Bill. I'm actually really curious to hear how this thing goes.
We'll have to get you on with Steven A and
Chris Cuomo to hear how it all goes. When you guys,
he is the tour for interesting? Is the tour gonna?
Are you gonna do some extra cities or is it
just out of Long Island? Are you gonna?
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I might? I might do it, And we got to
see how this works. I'm shooting it, so you I'll
send you some clips. We got a three camera shoot
on it, and I got I gotta see because we're
all very busy. And you know, look, I'm ninety five
years old, drin How how long can I do this
(43:31):
around a country business? But if it goes really well,
then I'll do some other cities. But it just depends
on how it shakes. So again, it's March thirtieth, Sunday,
afternoon three because of the old people coming to see me,
and I want to keep them up too late. And
I promise this will be one of the best shows
(43:53):
that you have ever seen. It's better than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Okay, I would be their Bill, but I'm expecting a
baby within days of the event, so I think I
gotta I gotta hugger down.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
But Clay has no play has he loves to be
honest with you. Bill. I like you, but I think
i'd rather go see Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Oh you're out of your mine. You're crazy. This is
so much better. And I'm you know, I may sing,
I may oh, no, wobble a few tunes and uh,
I'm glad you're having a baby because my kid's best
thing I've ever done. My son just got it the Georgetown. Awesome,
congrats this program. Uh, he's going to be president someday.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
We would not be surprised, does he is? He also
six seven because that helps in politics.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
He's six'. Five he's a lacrosse. Player but the most important,
thing he's, honest and he's kind and his personality is
not at all like, mine which makes him one lucky.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Guy bill, O'Reilly, Everybody, bill thank you so. Much as, Always,
well let's have let's talk again before the event to
make sure everybody we got a big long island. Listenership
let's make sure we get a lot of folks out
there because Then clay's going to make you go To
nashville and you know we're gonna were to take this
thing on the. Road thanks for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Time appreciate, It, mike That's bill.
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Podcasts all, right so welcome back To clay And. Buck
we had mentioned. This we'll just just spend a couple
of minutes on. This then we're gonna get into the
tariffs and the big. News BUT i JUST i think
it is interesting because we both watched this show because
our wives like the show and it's good enough that
we enjoy it. Too White lotus ON, hbo and there
(46:39):
was a scene where these. Three you can tell there
are three women of means in. There i'd say they're
all about forty five, ish, right maybe think that's about forty.
Five and they figure, out, well and they're in this
five star resort In, thailand which is where the whole
show is. Set and they figure, out wait a, second
(47:00):
once FROM, la one's From New. York one is From, Austin.
Texas Now texas obviously read But. Austin you never. Know
this is how the exchange goes play.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
IT i didn't know you went to? Church oh, yeah
we go Every. Sunday, yeah ever since we moved To.
Austin is it like a real textan, church like With bible?
Thumpers and, well the people are more conservative than LIKE
la people or Like New. York is that weird for?
(47:30):
You why would it be? WEIRD i don't.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Know IF i was just around a bunch Of texans
who voted For, TRUMP i GUESS i just feel a little.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Alienated they're nice, people really good, families. Cool but do
you ever talk politics with? Them Sometimes i'm going to get.
Awkward why would? It because, wait are you A? Republican?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
No, Wow i'm an?
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Independent But davis an? Independent since when you did not
vote For? Trump, though did? You are we really going
to talk About trump? TONIGHT i just love this same.
BUCK i have had versions of. That this like that
(48:15):
is exactly how it. Goes The libs keep digging, in
digging a little. More they're a little, outrage but they
want that. Reassurance, wait, wait, Wait i've BEEN i Mean
i've been on first dates where it was like, that
except it was, wait you you work For Glenn? Beck like,
That Glen, beck what do you do you like? Guns
And i'm, like, yes That's Glenn beck AND i love.
(48:35):
Guns and that was the. End there was no second.
DATE i bet there are hundreds of thousands of people
out there listening to us right, now maybe even, millions
that have had a conversation that is very similar to.
That because twelve million more people voted For trump in
twenty twenty four than twenty, sixteen a lot of people
(48:57):
have come on board The trump. Train AND i think
women in particular probably are responding to that because you
got THE la and let me say this. Book this
is WHY i think this is. Significant this is probably
the most popular show for entertainment people IN la And New.
York would you guess like everybody in the entertainment industry
(49:17):
in those two cities watching this, show and they aren't
playing Now, Austin texas not THE i think a lot
of you out there are Like. Austin they.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Should she should have been From dallas Or. Houston austin
would Be that did throw you. Off, yeah but, again
the vibe reed is not. Perfect but WHAT i thought
was interesting is and there's a later scene where the
women are talking about this other woman and they're like
gossiping about.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Her how in the world could she be Voting? Trump
they're not playing The trump voter as the cheap, laughs
stupid redneck un.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
Intel they're not going they're not Going Tom hanks FROM
snl that's right where he really he really just it
was unfunny and took cheap shots in. It they're not
even it's just pathetic because the cheap shots don't even.
Land and it just showed that he's living in some
alternate political. Reality but, no that's that's what's so interesting
is is The trump voter. Woman if you watch this,
(50:12):
scene you, know all through the women are, like you,
know they're very, attractive they're very well. Dressed, Right so
there's no. Wealthy they're very wealthy educated. Women but The
trump voter is the most at least in this. Exchange,
now there's more episodes to. Common for all we, know
she could have like a pill addiction and be. Crazy you,
know this is you being the. Killer they could still you,
know the awful Deranged trump.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Supporter but but the way they nailed the they nailed
the dynamic of democrats for a long. Time.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
Now think in any social, situation in any whether you're
in the, workplace whether you're at a you, know a friends,
barbecue a cocktail, party if they are surprised to find
A trump voter or A, republican which same thing, now
but in the midst they think that they're allowed to
take some kind of umbrage and put you through some,
(51:02):
interrogation whereas on the other, side it's, like, yeah you've
voted For, Kamala like, sorry you don't have good, judgment
but enjoy your, Burger.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Like we don't. Care, yeah that's, right that's. Right and
this reminds me Of Adam, carolla AND i guarantee you
there's a lot of our listeners In california right now
that are nodding along in a big. Way WHAT i
found In corolla mentioned this on the air with Us,
buck is that there are a lot of people who
are working on, shows the, grips the camera, guys the set,
(51:32):
builders who will come up and say, privately like, man
thank you for what you're, saying like you nailed it. Right.
Like in other, words the people standing in front of
the camera oftentimes are more outspoken politically on the. LEFT
a lot of the people that put these shows, on
that make them physically possible are Actually trump. Supporters and
(51:55):
the other thing about this is, Increasingly, buck a lot
of people who stand in front of the camera are
still kind of, hiding but they're also starting to take
like that half step out where we mentioned this with like,
comedians there are a lot of comedians out there that
Are trump supporting. COMEDIANS a lot of the people that
(52:17):
you watch and, like but they don't really Want AND
i get. It if my job was to talk to
one hundred percent of people and make them, LAUGH i
wouldn't want to come out stridently necessarily on one political
side of the equation or. Not IF i had. Everybody
this is my argument With Michael jordan back in the
Day republicans by sneakers. Too why were you not? Political,
(52:38):
Like i'm a great basketball. Player why WOULD i want
fifty percent of the population to like me less as
a basketball player because of my. Politics doesn't make any
sense to. Me BUT i do think this is a
super popular show and it is indicative of a major vibe.
Shift AND i don't know how many of you watch,
it BUT i guarantee, you if you're In New York
(52:59):
city OR la media entertainment, circles this is probably the
show that they watch more than any. Other and it
struck me On. Sunday it's Struck buck. Two we wanted
to play that for, you even if you don't watch
it as what the bibeshift can feel.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Like you, know you, know five years, ago or maybe
even two years, ago maybe even six months, ago The
trump voter in a pop culture context on AN hbo
show would have been you, know, yeah, LIKE i don't know,
anything BUT i just Love america and have my.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Flag you, know it would have been.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
Mockery it would have been much more likely to be,
oh aren't They they're right to be outraged that this
woman voted For, trump or that you, know we're led
to believe she voted For, Trump whereas now what it
exposed a little more was these, libs these left wingers
are living in this delusion where they don't realize that
(53:56):
more than half the country voted For, trump and they
probably know a lot of people who voted For.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Trump not only that. Too some of you out there always,
SAY i don't know why you watch a show LIKE
i watch lots of shows where people might hate my
politics BECAUSE i THINK i can appreciate somebody's talent in
something while also recognizing that they may not have the
same opinion as. ME i don't presume that everybody is
(54:21):
going to think the exact same as. Me doesn't MEAN
i can't like a movie or a television show or
a sport for that. Matter BUT i do think that
this is emblematic of a recognition that there are a
lot of people like you and Me buck out, There
AND i bet there's a ton of women who love
(54:41):
White lotus two that almost in, FACT i go into my,
MENTIONS i, BET i bet you've had a conversation almost
identical to what those three women just had at some
point over the last eight. YEARS i think huge majorities
of the women listening to us right now who Voted
trump have had a conversation like that with their g.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
FRIENDS i think more women than, men speaking of women
who drink too much. Chardonnay Justin trudeau here he is amazing.
Transition thank. You here he is on the tariff. Issue
he was In, Ottawa canada today and he's he's very.
Upset he is not having a good one, here very
(55:23):
upset with the. Tariffs and this is what he says
is going to. Happen play.
Speaker 7 (55:26):
One they've chosen to launch a trade war that will
first and foremost Harm american. Families they've chosen to sabotage
their own agenda that was supposed to usher in a
new golden age for The United. States and they've chosen
to undermine the incredible work we've done together to tackle
(55:47):
the scourge that is, fentanyl a drug that must be
wiped from the face of the. Earth so on that,
point let me be crystal, clear there is absolutely no
justifiction or need whatsoever for these tariffs, Today, clay.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
How much of what's going? On bill O'Reilly mentioned this
earlier in The hours a great. Interview go back and
listen if you missed. It on the Clan buck. Podcast
how much of this we Know, mexico there's there's very
real national, security, fentinel economic a whole range of issues
that the tariffs touch on there that we you, know
that's its own set of. Things With, canada how much
(56:28):
of this is Just trump wants to Give Justin trudeau
a weggie and push him into the locker in front of.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
Everybody you.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
KNOW i wonder how much of this is driven by
just Teaching trudeau a. LESSON i think it's an interesting.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Question the tariff debate in general is a difficult one
BECAUSE i don't know where the end goal actually rest
Buck WHEREAS i can tell, you, Hey trump definitely wants
to cease fire In, ukraine and he wants there to
be peace, there and he wants peace in The Middle,
east what is the sweat spot on the. TARIFF i
(57:01):
don't have an answer on, that RIGHT i don't have
a direct. Answer, obviously big picture it is we need
to manufacture more goods in The United. States we need
more jobs in The United. STATES i understand. That but
in terms of practical, impact what is the sweet spot
where he would, say, hey you know, what this is
where we're getting the balance that we WANT i don't know,
(57:22):
it and SO i think that is the more challenging
aspect of. THIS i do think That trump feels That
canada And mexico have taken advantage of The United states
and trade agreements for some, time AND i do think
he's accurate about, that and that we have, bled to
a large extent a lot of our manufacturing jobs as a.
RESULT i think he's correct about, that and That mexico
(57:45):
is not doing enough to stop the flow of, fentanyl
which is killing one hundred thousand people a year in
The United. States all of those things. True china of
facilitating that as. Well but what does success look like?
There success In ukraine is no more no more were people.
Dying success in The Middle east is no more. War
(58:06):
what is success on? TARIFFS i don't. Know the answer to.
That bordi of success is nobody crossing, illegally which we.
GOT i think What trump wants ultimately is reciprocity from
these countries because there are a lot of tariffs that
they have AGAINST us. Goods and this is where people
in this, argument you, know W'ERE i, Understand we're we're
(58:28):
told by the.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
The economic expert industrial complex that tariffs are, attacks and
tariffs are, bad and tariffs can't we won't help. Us right,
there there's STILL i think a pretty broad sense of
that going. On and yet why does why Does china
have all these tariffs AGAINST us? Goods why Does canada
have all these? Tariffs why does THE eu have all
these tariffs against THE us? Goods if it's so manifestly
(58:53):
not advantageous to have, tariffs why do these countries have
them against? Us And CLAY i think that also leads
to What trump wants is for them not to do.
That and so by saying and this is a little
bit like the trade war issue With. China from the
First trump, administration people kept, saying oh, no he's going
to start a trade war With. China anybody who understood
(59:14):
THE Us china trade situation would tell.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
You we were already in a trade. War it's just.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
They were fighting it and we were getting the short
end of the. Stick, so you, know instead of a
one way trade, war all of a, sudden it turned
into both people would were playing. Hardball SO i think
that's just his baseline mentality on, this but it.
Speaker 1 (59:35):
Might get a little rocky. Year everyone AND i, WENT
i went YESTERDAY i couldn't find any eggs in the grocery.
Store have you ever see have you had that? YET
i got to probably check at a, shock you. Buck
BUT i do not do a great deal of shopping
for The travis family when it comes to. Groceries when
was the last? Time when was the last Time laura
sent you solo to the grocery store for more than
(59:56):
one or two? Things, yeah like fifteen years. AGO i,
mean Like i'm gone to buy. Diapers i'm gone to
buy LIKE i, mean she sends me with pictures of
things THAT i need to buy on an individual. Basis
BUT i don't Think i've been to the grocery store
and like filled an entire grocery cart in like maybe
(01:00:20):
in our entire. MARRIAGE i don't, know certainly in like fifteen.
Years oh, man this is this is good, stuff all.
RIGHT a week from, Tomorrow i'm doing something exciting with
my dad appearing online in a conversation you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Miss is as far more to do with my father's
expertise than. Mine but you're gonna find it really interesting
and you could benefit big. Time, LOOK i grew up
In New York, city as you, know my dad made
his living researching and predicting the stock. Market he was
good at it, too and his line of. Work you're
a hero if your predictions don't come or if your
predictions come. True if they, don't you got a fair
amount of additional homework to do and Some i'm, explaining
(01:00:53):
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(01:01:13):
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