Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Mar 17 2025 - The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Excited to be
back with all of you. I was with my kids
on spring break last week. Had an awesome time out
in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, and also in San Francisco, believe
it or not, visiting colleges with my oldest and then

(00:22):
skiing with the family. I do not ski, Buck, but
Laura Travis is an adroit, adept skier, and so are
the Travis boys.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
So anyway, they were out on the slopes. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I met a lot of our listeners all over Steamboat
Springs in particular, which is a big spring break destination
evidently for a lot of Clay and Buck listeners. So
that was a lot of fun, really cool place I'd
never been before, and we had an awesome time out there.
So thanks for all the hospitality in Colorado. It was funny. Buck,

(00:57):
my oldest, we were in San Francisco. We went all
over the place, and as soon as we got Steamboat Springs,
everybody knew us, and he was like bat dad. Nobody
in San Francisco was like coming up and saying hi
to you at all. And then as soon as we
landed in Steamboat Springs, Colorado. Everywhere we went people were

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big fans, So we maybe need to bump the numbers
up a little bit in San Francisco behind them lines there,
but all over Colorado, we have a lot of people
listening out there all every single day.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I visited you in Nashville recently and.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I didn't even get fully out of the entryway of
the airport, like when you're walking and you see the
seats and stuff, and we had some clay and buck.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Listeners want to take a photo right away.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yes, I was like, this is God's country, obviously it
is clearly, so I appreciate everybody out there. We also
want to welcome right off the top here dozens and
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Speaker 2 (01:58):
More and more are rolling in.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
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we're gonna have a lot of fun with you. Let's
dive into some of the stories that are out there.

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By the way, our friend Congressman Jim Jordan will join
us at the top of the third hour for the
absolute latest on the budget machinations. I'm sure you talked
quite a lot about this last week, Buck, as we
every six months or so have the will they or
won't they shut down the government story, and inevitably it
all gets resolved. He's also trying to get Congress to

(03:06):
move on clarifying that one district court judge cannot just
override the president on executive prerogative issues that effectively that
could paralyze the government, and we're seeing attempts to do
that right now, and so there's legislation that is making
its way through that the House is working on to

(03:27):
that end. He can speak about that, he will. Yeah,
we talked, We told everybody this is important. I think
Buck that actually opposition to Trump wouldn't be primarily coming
from the Democrat Party. Necessarily, it would be individual judges
who are with the stroke of a pen, trying to
take away President Trump's executive authority. And ultimately we are
headed for a I think monstrous decision from the Supreme

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Court at some point which attempts to weigh out the
scope of executive authority and judicial review, which, to be
fair for those of us who are legal nerds, is
a dispute and a debate that has been occurring all
the way back to Marbarry versus Madison, which was one
of the seminal Supreme Court cases in the early nineteenth century.

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So I think we are headed for a blockbuster Supreme
Court decision as it pertains to the resistance in the
judicial community, and we'll dive into that as well. Also,
Buck is going to fill out a bracket. The NCUBA
Tournament is set. Congratulations to fans of the Florida Gators,
of the Auburn Tigers, Houston Cougars, and also the oh Man,

(04:39):
this is now I'm falling Apartpuck here the overall number
one seeds of the NCUBLEA Tournament, the Duke Blue Devils
as well everybody out there. Those are the four number
one seeds. My University of Tennessee, fifth overall, top two
seed Alabama Crimson Tide. Buck's favorite team as always unless
he is endorsing the Auburn Tigers is the six seed

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out there if you just count straight through four into
the top two seeds of the next round, all right,
and fourteen Southeastern Conference teams, my buddy Greg Sanki, commissioner
of the SEC, having an incredible season. That is the
most NCAA Tournament teams, including bucks wife's alma mater, the
Florida Gators, who are a one seed.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
All right.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Now, The difference in carrying me is Carrie always roots
for the Gators, whereas I root for whichever team is
most beloved by wherever I am. Or Alabama, if I
just know they're going to win, you are on the
You are always rooting for the home team at any
venue that you have, you have attended. And for those
who don't know, Buckett never been to a college football

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game until we started doing this show, and now he
is a college sports savant. So he's going to fill
out a bracket. I'm going to fill out a bracket.
Almost all of you out there listening right now, I
bet we'll be filling out a bracket. Spoiler alert. I've
got the Florida Gators winning the NCAA Tournament. I think
they are the best team in college basketball right now.
But we will post our brackets for you at Clay
and Buck. Buckett never filled out a bracket?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Did you do it? Last year?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Was the first time that you had ever filled out
an NCAA tournament bracket in your life?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Is correct? Last year or the year before was first time?
Every year?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So Saint John's, Saint John's New York City also a
top seed with Rick Patino in your home state of
New York and your home city of New York City.
So the East coast well represented by Saint John's. Also
Michigan States, and I'll give the top eight seeds out there.
All right, let's go into this story, Buck, because I
do think it's it's really.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Fascinating in many ways.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
After the twenty twenty four election loss, you and I
came on and we said, Okay, what are Democrats going
to decide? How are they going to analyze this defeat?
All fifty states? They did worse than they did in
twenty twenty. Trump wins the popular vote. He wins the
best Republican election victory when you consider Senate House and

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the White House going all the way back to nineteen
eighty eight. Kamala Harris as one and a half billion
dollars buck to spend, which is one of the most
dollar figures in one hundred days that we've ever seen.
They got their message out. They tried to argue, oh,
we have a messaging problem, not a message problem, right,

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In other words, people aren't hearing our arguments. That's why
we're losing. No, Actually, I think the results show that
people are hearing your arguments, and that, in fact, is
what the problem is. It's not a messaging issue. It's
that your message stinks. And so when you look at this,
I want to let you hear this. Both NBC News

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and CNN came out with polls over the weekend that
told the exact same story, and that story was the
Democrat Party has never been in the history of all
these polls going back to nineteen ninety and nineteen ninety two,
less popular than it is today. Let's start with the

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cn Repole poll results. This is on air CNN saying
staggering brutal reality of Democrat disapproval.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
This is Cut twelve, a.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Brand new exclusive CNN poll that paints a brutal reality
for Democrats as they struggle to mount a unified opposition
to President Trump. American's favorable views of the Democratic Party
brand are at a record low, just twenty nine percent.
That's compared to thirty six percent for Republicans. It is
the lowest ever recorded for Democrats and CNN polling going

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back more than thirty years. As you can see, the
party's numbers dropping a staggering twenty points in just four years.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, that's CNN and might say, Okay, maybe this is
an outlier. I think many of you out there are
probably saying, who in the world are the twenty nine
percent that actually approve this is the cadre of crazy,
broken brain left wingers that we talk about on a
regular basis. Basically seventy five percent of the country region
acting them right now. But NBC also had a staggering result,

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and they talked about it on your favorite show, Morning Joe.
This is Mika Brzhinski saying the Democrat Party has never
been less popular in the history of their polling as well.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Listen, cut back.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Let's start with the new polling that shows the Democratic
Party has preached an all time low in popularity. The
latest NBC News national poll finds that a majority of
registered voters fifty five percent have a negative view of
the party, while twenty seven percent, just over a quarter
of registered voters have a positive view of the party.
That's the party's lowest rating in NBC News polling dating

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back to nineteen ninety. Meanwhile, though, a new CNNSSRS poll
finds the Democratic Party's favorability rating at just twenty nine percent,
a record low going back to nineteen ninety two and
a drop of twenty points since January of twenty two,
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, I think there are a lot of reasons why
this is happening, Buck, but the primary one is Democrats
are wrong on every single issue. And I think what
you're seeing is there's a certain legacy approval where people
just say, I'm a Democrat, I'm gonna support them. But
it isn't that high when you're talking twenty seven percent

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positive on NBC, twenty nine percent positive on CNN, and
both to post record lows at the exact same time.
They have nothing to offer their own side at this
point in time, which I've never seen anything quite like
this before. Yes, they just lost, but they lost in
twenty sixteen, and that was emotionally devastating for them. Nonetheless,

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right away, I mean after election Day, the maniacs were
in the streets, truly in the streets. I saw them
in New York City hashtag resistance. We're gonna do everything.
We're gonna have the media and the intelligence community in
the and everybody working to hamstring Trump in every way possible.
Don't worry. They promised, will make sure that we get

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revenge on him, will stop his agenda and get revenge
on him.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Well, guess what.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
They can't stop his agenda really now. The only thing
they've been able to do is with the judges. They
can't stop him from becoming president anymore. And I think
there are days of promising that Trump is going to
pay the price for standing in the way of the
left wing destruction of the country. I think those days
are gone, and I think that what we're seeing is
the recognition among the left wing home team that the

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people that they've put on the field have absolutely failed them.
I have not seen anything like this since Obama beat
McCain in two thousand and eight. And even then, it
wasn't long before Obama's radicalism and the recognition of the
growth of government led to the Tea Party, and you know,
things got going very quickly. Maybe the Democrats will get

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their act together this time around, Clay, But I think
the problem is they can't even find people to rally
around right now. Actually, step back from that, they can't
find ideas to rally around. Yeah, that's you know, okay.
Obama won in two thousand and eight. You had a
huge financial collapse, you have the problems of the Iraq
and Afghanistan wars. He was very lucky with the timing

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in a lot of ways. He comes in Republicans still
believed in what they had believed in before. Maybe they'd
learned some painful lessons about interventionism, but it wasn't oh
my gosh, nobody thinks that we should have a secure border.
In fact, Obama won on traditional marriage and a secure
border and cutting waste in government. He pushed ideas to
become president that he didn't believe in at all, but

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those were popular ideas. The problem Democrats face right now
is the party was hired, their party was hijacked, meaning
they were in control. Right It wasn't just a faction.
The faction had seized the cockpit of the plane by
the lunatics, and they won't move off these lunatic ideas.
The ideas are not popular that they push. Can let's

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talk about this when we come back for a moment.
Can you think it's it's unheard of, I think for
a party to destroy itself like this such that.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Can you even think of anything that.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Democrats are right on right now? I mean, it's fairly
commonplace for people out there to say, hey, you know,
I agree with the Republicans on this, the Democrats on that.
That's how elections are decided right now. I can't even
think of anything that Democrats are right on right now
where I look at it, you know, say, hey, you

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know what, maybe the evidence, maybe the data, maybe the
argument itself is a little bit more on their side
than on the Republican side. I don't even know where
they fight right now, because they're fighting on such unpopular
ground that the vast majority seventy five percent of Americans
roll their eyes at. Trump has absorbed some of the

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best ideas that were not left wing entirely, but had
a lot of support on the left ideas like hey,
the working class in this country needs to not be
fed into the financial wood chipper so that we can
get cheap stuff from China. Right, that used to be
more of a center left issue in the Bush era

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Republican Party. When you say this, now, I think there's
always this rejection. Oh no, that's not no, No, I'm
not talking about Trump's Republican Party, which is what it
has been for a decade. Now, I'm talking about before that,
even some of the health stuff. Look at RFK Junior,
look at non interventionism, non interventionism which I think Tulsi
Gabbard represents in some way in this new Trump administration,

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among others. But Clay, non interventionism used to be considered
part and parcel of the peace movement in many ways
in this country, right or the people that like the
code Pink types almost And now we know that was
all a fraud. Whole other conversation, So yes, we will
talk more about about that. And also team pulled Bill
maher Batia sunger Argum. Did you see I saw it

(15:03):
over the weekend. Yes, we should pull that if we
don't have it. She talked to Bill said, don't you
regret voting for Trump? And she just which I was
shocked he went in that direction, because no, actually, Trump
voters are all doing backflips. They don't regret it at all.
They the problem is they're hoping they don't pull a
hammy when they do the backflip. Like I've never seen
so many happy Trump voters in my life. We should

(15:25):
get into that here and just a little bit. You know,
there's a compelling video online that talks about a prediction,
a prediction of disruption to our economy in the future. Look,
I'm hoping it doesn't happen, but I certainly trust the
person who made the prediction because it's my dad, Mason
Sexton Senior. This is my father's area of expertise the
financial markets and how they affect everyday Americans, and I

(15:46):
think it could be really helpful for you growing up.
My dad was a stock market guy, and he became
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He nailed it, and since then he's been advised some
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Speaker 2 (16:20):
You ain't imagining it.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
The world has gone insane.

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Speaker 7 (16:32):
Clay.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
I want to get to a couple of things here.
One was the exchange on Bill Maher where he asked
I think he threw he was I think he thought
he was throwing a fast pitch down the middle, and
it got absolutely walloped into the upper deck with the
question about do you feel bad about voting for Trump?
Now to someone who voted for Trump. We'll get to

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that first, though. I did want to get your take
on this, you know last week. First, last week, Trump
made a bunch of references to Canada as the fifty
first state. He does not seem to be budging off
of that one. I believe it is Trump trolling. I
do not have any real thought that the Canadians are
going to become the fifty first state. There's no process

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through which that would happen. But then there's this, and
I don't know if this is trolling or a combination
of serious and trolling, but it's seems to be.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
A big deal. This is from his truth social Donald J. Trump.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
The pardons that sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect
Committee of political thugs and many others are hereby declared void, vacant,
and of no further force or effect because of the
fact that they were done by auto pen In other words,
Joe Biden did not sign them, but more importantly, he

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did not know anything about them. The necessary pardoning documents
were not explained to or approved by Biden. He knew
nothing about them, and the people that did may have
committed a crime. Therefore, those of the Unselect Committee who
destroyed and deleted all evidence obtained by their two year
witch hunt of me and many other innocent people should

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fully understand that they are subject to investigation at the
highest level. The fact is they were probably responsible for
the documents that were signed on their behalf without the
knowledge or consent of the worst president in the history
of our country. Crooked Joe Biden, what do you make
of this?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
I don't think that this is one the Canada thing.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
I think is Trump just having fun and doing what
Trump does and getting a little negotiating leverage. Maybe I
don't think that he's kidding about this. I think he's
quite serious. It's super weird. Let's just say that, whatever
you think about Trump, he has made a very calculated
decision to basically sign all of his executive orders directly

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in front of the media, a fix his signature, have
people explaining to the symbol media what the orders that
he is signing do, and then he's oftentimes held them up,
He's passed out pins. He has made it very clear
that he is acting on his authority as the president
of the United States. What rational basis would there be

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for an autopen to be signing executive orders of this
level of significance? And Buck, you'll know this, and I've
bet a lot of people out there certainly have experienced this.
I'm not talking about like you wrote a letter of
your congressman and they like stamp it or fix an
autopen at the signature, you know, to a letter. I'm
talking about when you are acting with the full force

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of legal authority, to have an autopen doing it as
opposed to Biden himself doing it is extremely strange, and
I do think it raises the question, was Biden aware
of many of the acts that were being undertaken by
the executive branch under his duly elected authority?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Why would you?

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I mean, I think it's like, leave aside whether you
agree with the decisions that Biden made, because obviously a
lot of these we don't agree with. Why would you
need to do it via auto pin? I mean, it's
actually a super interesting question. I think that demands a

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real answer. And I don't think it's crazy of Trump
to say if Biden wasn't himself sitting like he should
have to sign the Executive Authority actor like that doesn't
seem like a crazy perspective to take. Right, Well, this
is where things get interesting here, because Biden was somebody

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that we all know now and this is uncontroversial, had
cognitive issues, right, I mean, had dementia. Basically, you had
to be president with dementia. And this is something I
used to say about Reagan all the time. They bring
up that they would say that Reagan had Alzheimer's, right,
that was just meant to be smirch Reagan's legacy, and
this is something that Democrats through the nineties into the

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two thousands. Look, Reagan had Alzheimer's. But what Trump is
going after here is he's saying that you can't. While
advisors can push policies to Biden and he can sign
off on it, the power of pardon comes from the
president as a person, and if he does not know
of and does not sign off on a pardon, it

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is not possible for anyone else to do so. So
if there was an auto pen like if these signatures
that were autopen were also correlated with pardons that Biden
did not himself approve, then you could consider it.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
To be void. Essentially.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
That's the idea, Now, can you here? I think the
challenge with this is how would you prove this? I
don't know how you could prove it. And Democrats are
going to say that of course Biden knew, and of
course Biden approved of all of this. And there is
no place in the Constitution or in case law that
I'm aware of where a pardon can be. The pardon

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power is considered to be absolute right, pardons can't be
undone because then there's no such thing as a pardon power.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
So I don't really see where this is going. It
might just be trolling, but Trump is pretty serious about it.
Here is where Buck I would say, and we said
this on the show at the time that it occurred.
Here is where I do think Trump could challenge many
of these Biden pardons. Is it legal to actually preemptively

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pardon someone? That to me is a very valid question
that the Supreme Court should have to address, because most
of the people that Biden pardoned have not actually been
charged with any crime, and so to me, the auto
pin aspect of this of this allegation by Trump is intriguing.

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I would actually layer it though with on top of this,
which I think is the far more significant argument, does
the president really have the power to preemptively pardon people
from being charged with crimes, potentially for actions going back
a decade Again, almost all presidential pardons historically have been

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for duly adjudicated cases. That is the ostensible purpose of
the pardon. Right, you have been convicted of a crime,
you are, in the President's opinion, worthy of clemency, and
therefore you are going to be given it after a
duly adjudicated process, just saying, hey, for a decade of actions,

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you are unable to be charged with any crime, and
I am preemptively pardoning you. To me, that's the angle
that they should be going after, because I don't think
that should be legal. It should at least be known
what you're being pardon. That's the entire purpose also, right,
because there's reason, there was thinking behind this, right that there.

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It wasn't just it didn't just come out of nowhere,
that there was this idea that the president should have
this very important authority.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
This is this goes.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
To decisions made after the Civil War, for example, how
do you handle the Confederacy right? How do you bring
you know, there were people that wanted there to be
much more severe punishments for some of the particularly the leadership,
but it was decided, well, no, we're going to bring
the country together, and so there was clemency, there were pardons,
there were decisions made.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
You know, you can.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
See how at baseline there is a need for presidential pardon,
or rather why people would think there's a need for
presidential pardons. What about if somebody just started saying, you know,
what anybody who works for me, you get a you
get a total get out of jail free card for
anything you've done over the last ten years.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (25:00):
Mean?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah? Is that okay?

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Can you can you just write something that says I
Joe Biden or have somebody else write it and pretend
they're Joe Biden. I Joe Biden hereby sweep away any
crime committed by any member of my administration for the
last decade?

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Are anyone who worked for me in you know, in
in the White House?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Is that the use of pardon power? I mean, there
have to be some limits. And I think that when
you're talking about preemptive to your point, preemptive pardoning. Is
this also goes to can the president pardon himself? Legitimate
questions that people have been asking for a long time. Yeah,
and again, I don't know that very many people have

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really spent a lot of time on it. You and
I talked about it because I think it's such an
interesting question.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Also, it presumes guilt. That's the other aspect of this.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
If I said to you, if I said right now,
if the President called me up and he was like, Clay,
you need a pardon for the last decade of your activities.
I would say, no, I don't think that I've done
anything that would be criminal in nature. When you pardon
the entire p number of your family, it suggests that
there have been a lot of criminal actions that have
occurred when you are doing it preemptively. Again, you and

(26:15):
I were not surprised. A lot of the nation was
when Hunter Biden got his pardon. But the pardon for
the conviction that Hunter Biden got in Delaware and also
for his tax related charges, is very, very valid in
my opinion. Right, you might not agree with it, but
the president's authority to pardon in that context seems quite clear.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Legally.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Does the president have the ability to just say to
his brother, hey, you're protected from all crimes for the
last decade.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Does the president have the ability to say, for Liz
Cheney or doctor Fauci or any of these other individuals, hey,
you're protected for the last decade from any charges that
any future administration might try to put on on you. No,
that's not constitutionally permissible.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It also creates a a real sense that some people
are above the law because there can't even be any
public feeling about what somebody is being pardoned for if
it's a sweeping pardon that. I mean, here's the other thing.
Could you be pardoned for any future, un yet future,
not yet described or committed acts. I don't think so.

(27:21):
I don't think anybody will be okay with that, because
now you're just saying that somebody hasn't there's no legal
authority of the federal government over an American citizen. So
clearly it can't be any future act that you commit.
It would have to be a thing already done. And
I do think there is grounds to say you have
to at least say what the thing is, right, because
what happened here was, for example, Hunter Biden was pardoned.

(27:44):
It should have it should have had to say Hunter
Biden has pardoned for tax evasion, for you know, for bribery,
for money laundering, you know, for the following things, and
you know, instead the system. I mean, maybe that's not
how it's generally done, but I think that's how it
should be done. You have to you should have to
be pardoned for a thing that people are aware of.
It can't just be like, yeah, you're good, nothing you

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can do whatever you want, you know, I mean think
about that as well. You could find out in the
case of Hunter Biden, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Maybe some stuff went on that we don't even know
about that was really bad, and then you can't you
can't charge them for that either. It's it's not I
am confident that this is not permissible, and it's why
I said I would challenge it. To me, the auto
pen thing is an additional layer to it, but to me,

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it feels much more worthy of legal challenge to try
to argue, hey, this is one hundred percent permissive. So
do you think Trump is going to see this one through?
Do you think do you think he's he's real deal
on this one he wants to push this. I think
it actually is less likely to be Trump who is
die hard on this, But I do think there are

(28:52):
some people in the administration who see this legally as
being untenable and want to challenge it going forward. It also,
by the way, is the opposite of executive overreach. You know,
all the people who were saying, oh Trump's a fascist,
Oh Trump's a dictator. No, the dictator would be the
person who's saying, hey, all, my whole family is protected
from criminal charges for a decade. I'm signing this as

(29:16):
I go out. I bet Joe Biden actually signed the
Hunter Biden pardon, by the way, really question also on
the autopen was there something in Joe Biden's ability to
hold a pen that made an auto pen necessary? In
other words, is it possible that his overall ability to

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Speaker 1 (30:58):
All right, welcome back into and a couple of thanks
here on the border situation. First off, Tom Holman trying
did not sound like I have a man crush on
Tom Holman. But he is doing phenomenal work, and he's
the right man for the job, and he's a patriot
who's serving his country incredibly well.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Uh here he is. When a reporter asks about this.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Alien acts, a law that has been used to send
these trend to Aragua guys out. A reporter asked Tom
Holman about the two hundred year old law that's what
he said twenty.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
Eight claims year old law to circumvent law not as
old as constitution.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
We still pay attention to that, don't we. I like
that it's not as old as the Constitution, and we
still care about that. Clay notice old law like the
Logan Act to jam up which was never used and
is actually probably unconstitutional on it in itself, to jam

(31:57):
up General Flynn.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Media is all about it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
This law used to get you know, rapist murderers and
gang member thugs out of the country.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Media is crying about due process for illegals. We met Tom.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Homan on the show a ton and obviously his voice
is great because he sounds like the guy.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Who should be in charge of the border.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
This is one of those things that I do think
Trump is right about in a television era, the central
casting element of the person who is the communicator in
chief of a particular issue and decision. Tom Homan both
looks and sounds like the grizzled veteran who should be
in charge of making sure that our border is safe.

(32:39):
Like if you asked me to like central cast, if
we were doing a television show or a movie and
you said, hey, who's the guy what does the guy
look like who's going to shut down the border? I
would say, Oh, it's a guy like Tom Homan, and
his responses when these questions get yelled out are extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
This is going megaviral. We just played for you.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
But remember Buck for years. Tom Holman came on this
show and he said, it's really simple. If President Trump's
in office, he will shut down the border, just like
we shut down the border in the first term. And
Tom Holman's in office, and again they have shut.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Down the border.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
And I do think you will sometimes know when Trump
has huge wins because stories just disappear. They don't give
him credit. Really, they just kind of stopped talking about
an issue. For instance, the price of eggs. Buck has
evidently plummeted in the last ten days or so, and

(33:35):
it's back down to a normal level price of eggs.
I'm not an expert on egg pricing, but my understanding
is that they have essentially come back down to a
normal ish price. Story's gonna vanish. For years as the
price went up, nobody talked about it. Trump's in office
fifty days, suddenly he owns the price of eggs. I'll

(33:55):
tell you another one. The stock market. I was out
last week, rough week for the stock market. Suddenly Trump
is responsible for every day's activity in the stock market.
When it comes back up, and it will come back up,
the story will just vanish. They only have these short
lived little narrative arts. Suddenly everybody in the Democrat Party

(34:19):
cares about where the stock prices are. Look, I want
the stock market to go up. My advice to you
in general is the same advice that I follow. Buy
index funds. I buy s and p five hundred index funds.
On average. Historically every ten years they double. The more
time you pay attention to stock market prices, the more

(34:40):
likely you are to respond emotionally and make decisions to
sell low and buy high, because that's how most people think.
Oh the prices keep going up, Oh I'm going to buy.
Oh the prices are going down. Oh I'm going to sell.
What is the great line? For more and Buffett? Be
greedy when others are fearful, and be fear full when

(35:00):
others are greedy. Honestly emotional aspects of how to judge
this and Look, the stock market was a disaster for
the first two years of Biden, but the overall American
economy is such that even when you have a bad president,
and I think Biden was the worst president in any

(35:20):
of our lives, the stock market didn't completely collapse because
there were enough red states out there making great decisions,
and enough red state governors to help to allow their
states to be growing dynamically, even while the federal government
policies actually made it more difficult for in general companies

(35:41):
to succeed. So I do think the way these narratives
just vanishbuck is super interesting in the context of Trump's successes.
You don't hear them trumpet them, They just vanish.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
And I had mentioned this before, and I did want
to play it for everybody's they could hear it, which
is when Bill Maher I was surprised he went in
this direction. Look, Bill's a pretty Bill's a savvy guy,
and he's realized that. And he knew before the election too.
I think where the Democrat Party was going, which was
off a cliff into a brick wall, pick your metaphor.

(36:14):
He knew this because they went crazy and he was
trying to tell them to stop. He's so crazy, stop
being so crazy, and they wouldn't listen. I was surprised though,
that he went in the well, now Trump is This
is the thing with Bill. He can be reasonable even
if he's wrong, like he's wrong on climate change in
my mind, but you can talk to him about it

(36:36):
somewhat Trump. He despises Trump like he has he is
Trump arrangement syndrome. Truly, he has a Trumped arrangement syndrome.
And he took the approach with one of his guests
who is a former leftist or center left I should say,
a former Democrat who has come over to the Trump
side as a Trump voter. And he's like, well, don't

(36:57):
you feel like you shouldn't have voted for Trump now
that we've seen what's going on? And I was shocked.
Here is how she explained this. This is Batya Hunger
Sargan on Bill Maher. This is cut twenty five.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Play it.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
And I'm just wondering what you think now we're approaching
two months in. I mean, you must have a feeling
in your gut.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Look Linia, and tell me you don't that this is
really going badly and I shouldn't have thrown my lot
in with this team.

Speaker 7 (37:25):
Oh no, I feel the opposite, all.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Right, tell me why.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
I'm so sorry?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Bill, No, No, tell me why.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
No, I feel so proud of I mean, I was
never a Republican or a conservative. I was a leftist
and I am still a leftist. I'm just a maga
leftist now, because.

Speaker 9 (37:42):
That makes no sense.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Exactly.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
I raised you, Yes, when I look at what President
Trump ran on and the agenda that he's enacting right now,
he took a Republican part that was built on social conservatism,
foreign interventions and wars and free trade and free markets,
and he basically took an AX to all of those.
During the campaign he said, look, I mean he's pretty

(38:14):
pro gay, that's pretty obvious. He appointed the highest ranking
out gay person, Scott the cent our secretary of Treasury,
which is incredible, and he sidelined the pro life wing
of his party. Okay, so he believes abortion should be
legal for twelve weeks.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
That's not actually really where he is on it.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
But the point here is, Clay, you know, we could
talk about the abortion thing in more detail, but the
point is the don't you feel badly about how Trump
is doing so far? For Trump voters is still a
total misread of where Trump voters are, which is, I
think for most of us who were expecting it to

(38:53):
be good or very good.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
It is excellent.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
It has actually exceeded the expectations of those who had
had high expectations. So the notion that anybody would regret
it who voted for Trump, I just think this goes
to Democrats aren't paying attention to the mood of the country,
or they're just connected from the mood of the country.
They just can't tell. Look, if Trump were in any
way experiencing a backlash or regret, Democrats, as we started

(39:21):
off the show talking about, wouldn't be at historic lows
of approval.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
In general, the.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Approval rating of the Democrat Party would not have collapsed
if the Republican president were wildly unpopular. I don't think
anybody anybody regrets their decision about Trump.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
And look, I mean buck just quickly. There is a
very good chance.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I think we're going to get a ceasefire in Ukraine
and end that war between Russia and Ukraine within the
first hundred days of Trump's presidency. We have a ceasefire
right now in the Middle East. It's tenuous, hopefully it holds.
That's because of Trump. As we just laid out, potentially
the fewest illegal border crossings since nineteen sixty seven.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
At our southern border.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
We have inflation hitting a four year low last week,
and we have violent crime overall on decline in many
different cities across America, and bad guys being put behind
bars and kicked out of the country when they have
no business being here. Again, the stock market is basically

(40:28):
the only thing you can point to right now if
you are a Democrat and say.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Oh, it's not going well.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
But the stock market is basically right now as we speak,
the exact same level S and P five hundred.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
That it was on election day.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
So really six months, I mean, you have corrections constantly,
stock prices go up and down, and the fact that
we're sitting and I saw a clip from you and
I watched it over the last week, Buck where you
were laying out, Hey, we've had a sugar high in
the way that much of the government has been dealt
with in terms of the money that's just been the
spigot that's been being paid by Democrats. And there may

(41:06):
be a little bit of a retrenchment as people recognize
that that sugar high is going away.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I did say that last week. Thank you for noting it, and.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
The Treasury Secretary was on TV this morning, This is
Cut nine. Scott Bessant was saying, that's exactly what has happened.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Everybody. We need to face reality play nine.

Speaker 9 (41:25):
Top ten percent of Americans are forty or fifty percent
of consumption and that is an unstable equilibrium. The bottom
fifty percent of working Americans have gotten killed. We are
trying to address that. We're trying to get rates down.
And could we be seeing this economy that we inherited

(41:45):
starting to roll a bit?

Speaker 8 (41:47):
Sure?

Speaker 9 (41:48):
And look, there's going to be a natural adjustment as
we move away from public spending. The private spending, the
market and the economy have just become hooked, come addicted
to this government spending, and there's going to be.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
A detox period, detox period.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Of course, there's going to be a detox period when
you've been spending beyond your means. If you've been running
to the mall, I guess, does anything really go to
the mall anymore to spend a on money? But if
you've been running to the mall spending ten grand a
month on your credit?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Life? Does okay? My mother and my mother in law,
does I think? Yes?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I just want I just wonder, like, at what point
they're going to name a chair or something after my
wife at Costco? You know, like, at what point does
she get that honor for spending as much at Costco
as she does.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I'll tell you this, buck.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
You know, I went downstairs to get my smoothie for lunch,
and I look down and we have a big Costco
chili ready for dinner tonight. And I'm already excited about
having Costco chili. It's my I don't shop I shop
at Amazon, and I shop at Costco. That's like ninety
nine percent of where I buy anything. I love every
I'm like your wife. I love every time I get
to go into a Costco. It's just always a glorious experience.

(42:57):
It's funny too. Ive said, Honey, do you want me
to go with you? And she's like, no, it's fine.
I'm like, oh, It's like it's like she doesn't want
me to spoil it by, you know, asking my my
ignorant Costco questions or anything like this is her place,
this is her this is her field trip that she
gets to go on once a week and load up
the entire suv full of things from Costco.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
So but look at you a bundle of money in
the process, as one does.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
She's saving me nothing but money. It's almost like everything
she buys is free because of all of the savings.
And those of you who are familiar with wife or
girl math are familiar with how that actually goes. She's
doing me a favor by bringing home those big jars
of whatever it is because it's such a good deal.
That's exactly right. That's how girl math works. It's gone

(43:41):
popular on TikTok. We've talked about this before, where women
will go on and say, look at how much I saved,
and then you know they sometimes try to talk to
the men in their lives like that's not actually no,
But girl math is you don't spend money, you only
save money. So something's half off. You have saved a
massive amount in the process. So this is the COSTCO

(44:04):
is the perfect example of this. Yes, but back to
the economy overall, this is not a surprise to the
administration that there would be a little bit of a
disruption in the market, because if you're going to cut
the spigot off of tremendous spending from the federal government,
and the expectation that this will just continue. You know,

(44:24):
there is you could pay a lot of people to
do nothing, and a lot of people are making money.
The point is we don't want that to continue to happen. Yeah,
so there'll be a little bit of a disruption there.
And that is the only thing that you can point to,
basically the stock market, the S and P five hundred
down like fifty one hundred points, I think in the
last six months. The only thing you can point to

(44:46):
and be unhappy with, I think, and certainly that's why
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Speaker 1 (47:05):
We want to say thanks, by the way, to all
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Speaker 2 (47:15):
We appreciate you.

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We've gone over five hundred in affiliates, massive number, all
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running around the nation, trying to make sure that we
are on the right track. Our friend, Congressman Jim Jordan,
Great State of Ohio Congressman, how are things going.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
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Speaker 8 (47:35):
You've that good to be good to be with you guys,
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Speaker 2 (47:44):
So far, so good four years in.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Let's dive into what you're focused on right now, which
is the federal district court judges have emerged as the
primary resistance to Trump's authority in the United States. The
Democrat Party has collapsed. We were talking about the overall
approval ratings hitting all time lows at NBC and CNN.

(48:09):
What do you think about these federal district court judges
and what do you think should be done to stop
one judge who is oftentimes an Obama appointee, from trying
to keep President Trump from being able to enact the
executive actions that the American people put him in office
to do.

Speaker 8 (48:30):
Yeah, I think several things. You know what, we have
oversight of Article three courts, so we're looking at all
this so there's sort of this the general oversight function,
and then there's legislation that we can do. And I'm
telling Buck, I listened, we were driving this morning and
I heard I heard your show from Friday we were
playing as your head off to the meeting, and you

(48:50):
were talking about this issue, and we passed this bill
to I think two or three weeks ago out of committee.
We're going to try to get it through the House.
But the bill said, look, you if you have some
judge in tim Buck to California who issues are ruling,
it doesn't apply nation why, it applies to the parties
of the case, the parties in the case in that

(49:11):
respective jurisdiction. And so you limit the ability. What has
it been I think fifteen times in eight weeks. Actually
it'd be a shorter period of time than that, even
six seven weeks, where fifteen different occasions where some some
federal judge has had a nationwide injunction against some actions
taken by President Trump, either executive order or some of
the dose things that have taken place. So and I

(49:34):
think of the whole four years of Joe Biden was
like thirteen or fourteen. So we think this makes sense.
And then we're also just looking at our general oversight
of this this whole thing. And of course the biggest example,
while it was not a nation wide injunction, but the
example that tront and center on everyone's mind is this judge,
Judge Bosberg, who said no, no, No, it's better to
bring hardened criminals back to the country, gang members back

(49:56):
to the country than to send them away, which I
think is just underscores how ridiculous some of this stuff
is that we're seeing from these judges.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Congress and Jordan appreciate you being with us. So clearly
we agree that reigning in the hashtag resistance universal injunction
happy judiciary is constitutionally necessary. I have a feeling the
Democrats in the Senate, however, will be unwilling to go
along with this. So is this mostly just a function

(50:25):
of making the argument in front of the American people
that this should be done. So at least when Democrats
are claiming that this is the way it has to be,
the Trump administration can turn around and say, one, we disagree,
and two it's Democrats who are refusing to clarify this.
So of course it's going to have to make its
way up to the Supreme Court because we know they'll

(50:46):
complain about that too.

Speaker 8 (50:47):
Yeah, I mean, we could have taken a course. There's
other legislation that we're looking at where you would do
some extability review. So if it stays the same, so
some judge, some federal district judge can issue ruling has
nationwide implication, and then you get some expedited review, some
three judge panel then on this so you could do it.
You can do that route as well. We'll look at
that legislative if that makes sense. But the idea is

(51:09):
to get an answer quickly and not have these judges
and the Democrats forum shopping. But I would back up
a second. I think, really what this is about is
the left doesn't want to trust the individual who was
elected to make decisions. The left says, no, no, no, we
got to go to the judges. We got to go
to the experts in the government, of bureaucrats who were

(51:31):
so much smarter than we the people. It's the whole
reason they thought doctor Fouci should run the world a
few years ago. It's not trusting in the guy who
put their name on the ballot, was elected and his
Article two, section one. I always point to this. The
very first sentence in Article two of our constitutions says
executive power shall be vested in a president of the
United States. The Democrats don't like that. They want the

(51:53):
experts to run things, and then they want to go
to the courts to run things. They don't like the
guy that the people put in power. So ultimately that's
where about. And then we're trying to figure out a
way to make sure that the people get their wishes
done as it was reflected in the election. On November fifth, we're.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
What is the latest that you can tell us about
the big beautiful bill that I know is working its
way through, the reconciliation bill that would deal with taxes,
that would deal with the border, I believe everything else.
What's the absolute latest there? People should know? What's the
timeframe look like? How do you see it going?

Speaker 8 (52:29):
Well? I think good, especially now that we've got to
ceer done. You know, no one thought we could really
get that done, and everyone you thought there were going
to be some kind of fight on But when we
framed it up with this just flat funding maybe saving
a few dollars like we did. Now that that's off
the table, I think we can turn to implementing the
dose cuts, doing the reconciligation that the American people elected

(52:51):
us to do. The speakers indicated he wants to may
timeframe on this to try to get this all done.
I think that'd be great if we can make it
happen that quickly, getting some certainty on the tax code,
getting some certainty on energy policy, getting the revenue and
resources to Tom Homan and President Trump's team to make
sure they can continue to secure our border. I think
that makes all the sense in the world. But that

(53:13):
victory last week was good. I saw Senator Murphy Democrat
Center from Connecticut on TV yesterday and he said, this
was the first time that the government spending bill wasn't
negotiated in a bipartisan fashion, didn't have bipartisan buy it.
You know what else it was. It was the first
time we passed the spending bill where we didn't spend
more money. Maybe there's a correlation there, maybe there's some

(53:34):
truth to us do it this way, so they were
not spending more money. So I thought that was a
big win for us. And now we're set to implement
the dose cuts that the Trump administration and Elon and
his team have put together along with this reconciliation package,
and let's hope we can get it done by the
spring here by May, and then get on with the

(53:55):
economy growing like we wanted to grow.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Congress and Jordan, you may have seen this a couple
of days ago, FBI Director Cash Patel, I'll share this quote.
I want to address the alarming rise in swatting incidents
targeting media figures. The FBI is aware of this dangerous trend,
and my team and I are taking action to investigate
and hold those responsible accountable. There have been a number
of people, this is the reports are out there who

(54:18):
have had this swat incident. A swatting incident's happen, and
for anyone listening, it's where someone calls in a hoax,
high threat situation to law enforcement, says, oh, here's the address.
There's somebody barricaded with a gun, holding a hostage, and
sometimes swat shows up and goes in heavy through the door,

(54:38):
and it's very dangerous. My understanding is that, yes, of
course this is against the law, but there's no specific
law that's brought to BAAR federal law targeting. I'm usually
not in favor of more laws, but is anyone in
the Congress considering an anti swatting law specifically to address
this so that it's very clear, Hey, if you because

(54:59):
someone could get killed this has there have been lethal
incidents in the past with this.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
Yeah, no, Kidd and UH, if legislation is needed to
clarify that, we're certainly open to doing that. That that
makes sense to me. You know, this is this is
dangerous stuff. And you start messing around with this kind
of stuff for political reasons because you want to go
get you know, to someone on the other party or whatever.
I know our colleague, I think Marjorie Taylor Green has
been squatted several times. So if you're doing this for

(55:26):
political stuff, this is there should be prosecution, just like
if your UH Attorney General Bondi has talked about this,
if you're if you're these folks in these cities, these
sanctuary cities, and you're tipping off the bad guys when
ICE is coming to try to do their job and
you're making it difficult for ICE agents to implement and
and and force federal law.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
And dangerous for them because some of these bad guys
can set up ambush.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (55:52):
Yeah, well we saw this happen in Detroit or ecue
me in Denver. The sanctuary city policies out there were
they let this guy go, this Abraham Gonzalez. They let
him go even though I had said, hey, if you're
going to release this guy, we know you got him.
He's in for aggravated assault. He stole a car. If
you're going to release him, give us forty eight hours
notice so we can come to the jail and pick

(56:13):
him up in your county jail, in your city jail.
And they said no. They released him to the street,
and then they got to go arrest him on the
streets and as a result, on Ice agent got assaulted.
It's like, that's what happens when you have this crazy
left wing sanctuary city policy. So if it's that or
sweating or whatever, let's make sure that we protect the
safety and allow and if you're engaged in that kind

(56:35):
of stuff, you should be prosecuted for goodness sake.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Jim at New York Times this morning said, right now,
we're on pace for the lowest amount of border crossings
since nineteen sixty seven. I knew you had faith that
Trump and Tom Holman and Christine Home and everybody else
out there could get this thing solved.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Did even you?

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Are you even astounded by how quickly he has managed
to turn the southern border into a secure zone.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Yeah, I am. And it's it's it's truly a reflection
of leaders and you know, we all know. Leadership makes
a difference. And when you come in and say you
you reverse exactly what Biden said, No more, no more
building the wall, no more remain in Mexico, and when
you get here, you will not be detained. You will
be released. And President Trump came in and said, We're
going to flip those exactly one hundred degrees. We're going
to continue building the wall. We're going to make you

(57:25):
wait in Mexico while we evaluate your claim. And when
you get here, there is no way you will be released.
You will be you will be detained and sent back.
And anyone else who came here, we're going to find
you and send you back if you're not if you're
not supposed to be here. When you come in with
that kind of attitude, and Tom Holman is certainly reflective
of that attitude and you do those things, it's amazing
what happens. Lowis encounters, I think ever, as you pointed out,

(57:46):
play but I got admit it's the It's even faster
and better than I thought they could do it, which
is again a testament to the leadership of President Trump
and his team.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Congress and Jim Jordan Away appreciate making the time for
a sir, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
No, I was just gonna give you a chance because
it's in.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
C double I know what we're going to now, Yes,
we we're saving the republic slash.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Let's talk sports. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Uh Buck is going to fill out a bracket, which
he's rarely done before. But I also know the wrestling
in C double A tournament is underway, I believe. And
you are a former Uh yeah, you are a die
hard on that front. What should people know about the
n C double A tournament for the men out there
that everybody's gonna be watching this weekend, and also wrestling.
I'll give you an opportunity to to flex your muscles.

Speaker 8 (58:33):
Yeah, and wrestling Tennsey is gonna win again, unfortunately, but
there'll be lots of there'll be there'll be a strong
competition for runner up. You know, the Buck guys that
will be good. Hawkeyes are good. There's other a lot.
I mean, it's all big ten. Then there's a few
teams from the from the twelve we'll coom. The state
will be solid, so we'll see how that goes. We're
going to go for the finals. I think it's in
Philadelphia will be there for the final night basketball. I'm

(58:56):
always hearing for the Badgers, uh, you know, even though
they got beat yesterday, and that ten final chair for
the Badgers, which is where I went to school. So
we'll see. I don't even know what. I haven't looked
at the brackets yet, though today I assume the Badger's
got a pretty high seed.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Three.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
You're a three seed, so you're in pretty good set
up to play Alabama in the sweet sixteen if you
make it.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
There, there we go, there we go. Well. So I'll
probably in my bracket I usually have. If wisconsinin the tournament,
I usually have them gone to the final four at
some point, so I'm sure I'll have that my bracket
this time too.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Outstanding stuff.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
You have a good work, Congressman, and we appreciate you.

Speaker 8 (59:30):
You bet take care.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
I mean, he's fabulous in many respects. But I do
love that when he's out on the road, Like you said, Buck,
he was listening to you on Friday, He's like, Hey,
let me go ahead and hop on and talk about
everything going on out there in the world.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
On the series. Do you agree with me?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
There should be a you know, you're a lawyer, there
should be an anti swatting law because I know that
there are there are violations of law in swatting, but
it makes it easier for prosecutors if it's you did
the following things are covered under this specific statute, which
is trying to prevent because right now it's you know,
interstate threats, it's false report. It's a bunch of different things.

(01:00:10):
But you know, I know there's from terrorism prosecutions, like
when there's one thing you can hit people with, like
when it's material support to terrorist group, tenures in federal prison.
It's a lot easier than trying to cobble together a
multi statute prosecution. It also simplifies and makes people aware
of what dangers there's a political component to it or

(01:00:31):
an awareness component as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah, and you just shouldn't do this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I mean, it's it's dangerous and uh, it's just awful.
I mean, there are a lot of things out there
where you can say, we talked about this with death threats. Unfortunately,
we got some at the house during the election season,
Like I think you should. There are several things that
are sort of new because people haven't had access to
direct messages and social media and cell phones everything else

(01:00:58):
that are new crimes that we need to prosecute to
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this is not a prank. This is not something you
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