March 18, 2025 • 56 mins
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive into a range of hot topics, starting with President Trump's announcement about releasing 80,000 unredacted documents related to the JFK assassination. They discuss the potential implications and the public's reaction to this significant disclosure. The conversation then shifts to President Trump's decision to end Secret Service protection for Hunter and Ashley Biden, highlighting the excessive number of agents previously assigned to them and questioning the necessity of such measures.
Senior White House aide Stephen Miller intellectually crushes mainstream media host. President Donald Trump's call with President Vladimir Putin, emphasizing the potential for a ceasefire in Ukraine and the broader implications for U.S.-Russia relations. The hosts analyze the statement released by the White House, highlighting the importance of peace efforts and the potential economic benefits of ending the conflict.
The hour also features an insightful interview with Josh Hammer, senior editor at large of Newsweek, about his new book, "Israel and Civilization: The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West." Hammer discusses the end of the ceasefire in Israel and the renewed posture toward Hamas, emphasizing the critical role of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He also explores the broader implications of U.S.-Israel relations and the importance of a strong alliance between the two nations. Hammer's book delves into the historical and biblical foundations of Western civilization and argues for the continued support of Israel by both Jews and Christians.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition off the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now thanks to the guy
who high five to me on the way out of
the gym today. Clay says he listens every day, loves
the show. I wish I could have stayed longer, but
I was like, I gotta go do the show. So
it was a close one had to run home, but
I got here and we have a lot to get
(00:22):
into today. President Trump announcing eighty thousand documents on the
assassination of JFT will be released, and he has asked
that the files not be redacted. I can't imagine how
there would be any justification to continue a redaction at
this point, but we shall see what is released. Eighty
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remember eighty thousand pages. So anybody who within minutes of
this thing of the document drop says I know who
killed JFK. Just grain of salt, like, let's see what's
actually in this thing. I know. I'm not going to
take out my wampwomp button quite yet on it. We'll see,
but I am in wait and see mode for sure.
President Trump has announced that Hunter and Ashley Biden will
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no longer have Secret Service protection. They had Clay eighteen
and thirteen agents. Assignments are crazy, respectively. Hunter Biden had
eighteen Secret Service agents. Eighteen Secret Service agents. Like this
is outrageous, outrageous. I mean this, you know, if you're
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the president. The way they usually do this is they
start to fade it out. I mean presidents, I guess
former presidents. I think once you get past two terms,
you really don't need a Secret Service detail anymore. I'm
a little bit of a maybe a radical on this
whole thing. I think people just need to like get
a grip. It's okay. You know, no one cares that
you were president three presidents ago that much. You know,
(01:47):
like don't don't go to Moscow on vacation and you'll
be fine. So anyway I find this, I think we've
gotten way too much of a praetorian rialse. It was
eighteen That is crazy. I mean that that is this
guy was traveling with a platoon of Secret Service agents
in case what I mean, think about and think about
(02:09):
what they probably saw too. Don't even get me started.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Also, to your point, it's not I mean he lived
in Malibu. I mean, do we think that he was
in perpetual danger from all of the super libs in Malibu,
like that they were going to.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Do something to him. No, this is this is just
so that you can have a you can have a
taxpayer funded chauffeur and and security. And you know, I
want to know what all these guys are doing all
the time. It's the whole thing is completely outrageous. And
and this this thing, you know, we allow presidents to
determine really what the presidents get, and these guys have
(02:45):
way too much. It's it's it's crazy. The former presidents,
some of them have just I think, like Nixon said,
I don't even really I want to get my own
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I wouldn't want I mean, I doesn't feel to me
like it would be very much fun to have have
security with you. I mean, we've had to have security
for some events. Obviously, when somebody wanted to kill me,
we had security. So we have security off and on.
I'm not knocking the idea, but it isn't A eighteen
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agents is for someone who has ever had security is
a absolutely insane number. And I remember, if I recall,
maybe we'll talk to Miranda Devine about this tomorrow, because
she really kind of broke this story on the New
York Post. But Buck, it also was the case that
I believe that Secret Service was renting a high end
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mansion next door to him to use as the base
to be able to protect Hunter when he was living
in the Sugar Daddy's house in Malibu.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, the whole thing is outrageous. Man, This is completely unjustifiable,
and I think that it's the right move. Look, presidents,
you know, they need to be protected, especially this president,
need to be protected with whatever is required. But you know,
if you were just the most recent president, Okay, but
your family, Ashley Biden, give me, give me a break,
all right. You know you got to live with a
(04:07):
certain degree of just life is uncertain. I'm sorry, Like,
you can't go around twenty Secret Service agents the rest
of my life, please, all right. So anyway, that's something
we can talk a little more about. Cease fire between
Israel and hamas is over Israeli jets have been striking Gaza,
and the Israelis are just saying they're not waiting for
they're not waiting for hostages anymore. Enough is enough that
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judge who ordered the planes to turn around with the trend.
De Aragua members on it is really digging in and
getting crazier and crazier, which which we will make some
sense of today. And yes, oh and then we have
what's going on right now? Why don't we jump into
this one because I think it ties into everything. Trump
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has been on the phone this morning with Vladimir Putin,
and remember Klay last week, the conversation was, Oh, it's
too early, and there's so so many conditions, and really
downplaying that Trump was even likely or is even possible
he could get any kind of a breakthrough if this results,
If this call results in a ceasefire, and we should
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know pretty imminently. I think if at least a ceasefire
has been preliminarily agreed to, does the media cover it
as a breakthrough or do they cover it as well?
We won't really know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, Look, the ceasefire in general is now ended in
the Middle East, right, so ceasefires are not perpetual, never
ending ceasefire realities. But I do feel like if they
start the ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia, tell me if
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you agree with this, at least during Trump's remaining term
in office, Vladimir Putin will not invade Ukraine anymore. Do
you feel good about that, like if you had to
predict based on what we saw in the first turn
when he didn't invade, and whatever you feel about this,
I do believe that Trump and Putin have a somewhat
(06:08):
decent relationship that actually is brought together by the total
why that Russia won Trump the twenty sixteen election. Trump
knows that's not true, Putin knows that's not true. We
and by the way, the United States, I'm curious if
you would agree with this, Buck probably spends more money
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trying to influence foreign elections than any country in the world.
So the idea that we're gonna be like grabbing our
pearls and falling on to a fainting couch that other
countries would in some way seek favor in our own
elections when we are, I believe, probably the biggest manipulator
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of international elections of any country in the world. But
they didn't have any massive impact. The whole Russia collusion
story was a lie. The money that Russia spent on
Facebook ads was a pinprick of what was spent, like
one hundred and k of billions of dollars that were spent.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Hardly anyone saw them. They were poorly designed.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
My point on this is, I think the Trump Putin
relationship is actually closer because of the lies that they
both went through there. I don't feel like if we
get a ceasefire, Putin will violate it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Am I crazy in your mind?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
As a former CIA analyst put your CIA analyst hat
on here, how would you assess the likelihood?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think you have to add to that that these
are two men who recognizing each other historic figures and
alpha dogs, so to speak. I think that that's that
shouldn't be underestimated. That there is some degree of respect
between these two. I don't know if it would be affection,
(07:54):
but it's respect, you know. I'm not sure they like
each other, but they definitely look at each other as
two guys who, like I said, they're historic, they are
men of the moment. And yes, I think that if
there is a ceasefire that is agreed to. I think
that Putin knows that making Trump look silly is a
dangerous thing to do, meaning that there would be real
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consequences for Russia that he does not want. And I
think that he that Putin recognizes that is true. Now
that was not true in the same way obviously under
Biden when he invaded on Biden's watch and did all
this stuff. So we are in a better situation. I
think that you know, they'll be there'll be some negotiating
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that happens here. This is not going to be everyone
comes out of this phone call today high fiving and
the war is over, and you know Russian, Russian and
Ukrainian soldiers are going to be kissing ladies out in
the street in jubilation. That's not going to happen, unfortunately.
But I think that you might get to, you know,
a couple of points have to be agreed to, and
then there'll be a ceasefire for thirty days and then
(09:00):
we'll see and the ceasefire is going to be a
rolling process. Look, the same thing has been true with
the Israeli ceasefire which just ended. The Israeli said, okay,
we'll do a ceasefire and we have these conditions and
this is what we expect, and Hamas, because it's a
psychopathic terrorist organization, violates the conditions, won't give back the hostages,
so then fighting resumes. You may see something similar with
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Russia and Ukraine. But to your point, overall I think
is true, which is you're not going to have Trump
say I think we've got a ceasefire for thirty days,
and then ten days into it, Vladimir Putin is pulling
some nonsense, you know, firing missiles into Kiev and acting
like he can get away with whatever he wants, because
(09:44):
there will be consequences when Trump is the commander in chief, financial,
maybe diplomatic, maybe maybe other stuff. But Trump's not going
to allow that to go unpunished. Yeah, you're I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And look, I am just genuinely curious how the media
will cover it. I saw I was reading over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I don't know if you saw it. They do this
grid Iron dinner where everybody in the media comes and
they and they make their usual jokes. And your boy,
Governor Wes Moore of Maryland got up and made all
these jokes about Russia and Trump and how Trump is
putin stooge, and everybody was just rolling over laughing. And
(10:29):
it feels to me such an antiquated joke to be making.
But I would almost guarantee for you that whatever the
peace agreement or ceasefire is reached between Ukraine and Russia,
that it will somehow be used as evidence that Trump
is the Manchurian candidate for Vladimir Putin. And I say
(10:50):
that because they don't seem to be able to come
up with any other new lines of attack. Is that
kind of interesting? Like Trump is in awe right now?
And leave aside the fact that the Democrat Party has
lit itself on fire. Lowest approval ratings going all the
way back for NBC and CNN as long as they've
been doing those polls right literally have never been lower.
(11:13):
But the thing that maybe surprises me the most is
they buck They can't even come up.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
With any new lines of attack.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
They tried the oh it's president elon and everybody was like, yeah,
that's not really working right because you told us he's
a dictator. So is he a dictator or is he
actually just the stooge of someone else? Like they're actually
mixing messages. They can't even figure out what their.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Attack angle is on Trump right now. It is deep
in the recesses of the Democrat mind right now. But
I really do believe that there is a widespread quiet
panic that they will never address and they will never accept,
But it's in the back of their minds. And it's saying,
(12:00):
maybe you were just wrong about this top to bottom.
Maybe you were just wrong about this guy in every respect,
and he's actually going to be great for the country,
and you did everything possible to ruin and destroy him,
and he just kept on coming and it's going to
benefit not just his voters but America. These you know
(12:21):
people we saw this with COVID. People would rather look
like morons than accept that they were really wrong on
something they were very dug in on. And you're even
seeing some of these people, I think you're right, Buck, Privately,
they're having light bulbs go off and they're thinking, what
(12:41):
if I was actually on the wrong side of history, right,
because remember how long they hit us with that all
through you're enabling, you're platforming, you're on the wrong side
of history. I don't hear wrong side of history arguments
really anymore. Let's we can just take stock of this
for a minute, they said, And it was a widespread
narrative across the entire Democrat Party from the top down
(13:03):
from Kamala to who is the guy who was their
vice president, Tim Walls, all these people they said he
was a fascist and that he was Hitler like that
he was America's Hitler. Here we are it's not even
two months in. He's bringing an asterisk. He's let an
astronauts come back from outer space while Biden left them
up there stranded for political reasons. He secured the border,
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which every country should be allowed to do. When every
Democrat said they wanted to do, they were lying. He's
trying to get rid of government waste, fraud and abuse.
He's trying to end a horrific meat grinder of a
war that has got hundreds of thousands of casualties and
no end in sight. Does any of this sound like
Hitler stuff? Like where's the scary fascist stuff? Yeah, he's
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got the richest man in the world working for free
to try to stop waste and fraud. So the price
of eggs will come down. And wow, guess what the
price of eggs is already coming down? Clay, Remember when
two weeks ago it was hasn't he brought the price
of eggs down?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm literally looking right now from our friend Libs of
TikTok Buck. Price of eggs since he entered office has
collapsed by fifty percent. I mean their attack angles. According
to her January twenty first, twenty twenty five. And I
will let me be clear, because I always get egg emails.
People are like, it costs this at my store of like, okay,
(14:23):
I'm not an expert at what.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You paid for eggs this morning?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
All right, But according to Hya at Libs of TikTok,
six dollars fifty five cents was the average cost of
a dozen eggs when Trump entered office on January twenty first,
they now cost three dollars in twenty two cents. That's
half right, just and I apologize if you paid four
to sixty this morning. I don't need you to email
(14:48):
me about what the Safeway cost in your hometown. I'm
just telling you nationwide, that's the average.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now you know what they're gonna have to explain to
us on Morning Joe, though, You know who is really
opposed to eggs costing too much? Hitler? Just like Hitler
bringing the price of eggs down. Hitler. I always love you.
Know when we were at mar Lago with Trump and
he insisted that we get milkshakes because Marlon will make
(15:13):
the best milk. Classic, classic, classic Hitler move, just total
Hitler move. You know we're getting everyone milkshakes high fives
for everybody, just like Hitler would have done.
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Speaker 1 (16:49):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Occasionally you
see a butt kicking on cable news that involves so
much knowledge, It is so erudite, so exceptional, that you
feel like everybody was done a favor by this. The
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anchor who gets completely crushed by the guests, who knows
a lot more, the audience, including audience that does not
like the conservative guests because at least they're learning something,
and all of us get to just cheer and clap
and laugh about how the whole thing went down. Stephen Miller,
we should put this up on clayanbuck dot com. In
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a nine minute long segment that was essentially about whether
this judge who decided that he would tell planes in
the air that they had to turn around, think about
the authority, Think about the power that this judge thinks
that he has. The plans have already left. I am
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ordering those planes to turn around and come back to
the United States. One. There are one hundred of federal
district district judges across the country, hundreds of them. One
of them can just be like, I disagree with this
move by the president. He has to bring the planes home.
Oh okay. Stephen Miller had an exchange with one of
(18:15):
the is a Casey Hunt Is that right? I think
I don't even know who's on Casey point. Yeah, Tomato,
Tomato right, So I'm not sure. But he had an
exchange with a CNN anchor. We wanted to hear some
parts of this. We broke it up for you. It's
nine minutes long. The whole thing's up at Clay and Buck.
But Stephen Miller was taking no prisoners on this one.
One of his best. He's had many good moments on TV,
(18:37):
but one of his very best. The school bus was
parked out front and school is in session. Play play
clip one. This judge violated the law.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
He violated the we have in this country. Because that
does seem to same these same district court judges didn't
do a damn fit stop Joe Biden from flooding this.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Nation with millions of millions.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Do these district court judges didn't issue any injunctions to
save the lives of Joscelyn Hungary oral courts.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That's that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
What I'm saying is that what you said, there's a
separation of powers. The judiciary exercises student and you are
here to see.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I will do.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
You're here to speak. I will answer that one simple question.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Ready, here we go. Under a proper reading of the constitution,
district court judges provide relief to individual plaintiffs seeking relief.
District court judges do not have the authority as a
general matter to enjoin the functioning of the executive branch,
but their authority is at its lowest point when the
president is exercising his powers as commander in chief. And
(19:45):
I asked you a question you never answered it. Can
a judge enjoined troop movements overseas? Can a district court
judge and join treat movements overseas? Yes, sir, I am
not going to get into the Just say no, and
then you'll know that I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
D I like that. I'm gonna steal that. And for
the next time.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I get into an argument with my wife I don't
know if Steven uses that one with his lovely wife Katie.
Just say no so that you'll know that I'm right
is probably not a marital argument tactic that works well.
But it's phenomenal television, Buck. I mean, that was just
a whipping.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Here's here's what is at the core of the and
again it's it's nine minutes, which were not We can't
play the whole thing on air, but you can go
to Clayanbuck dot com. We'll have it up there for
if you want to see it in one place. It's
worth watching if you can. It's nine minutes and and
what's at there's a lot of things that are an issue,
but really at the core if the whole thing, Clay
is these judges. First of all, we talk about the
number because you can tell this is how partisan leftists,
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some of whom are judges, have decided that they're going
to oppose Trump. They're just going to stop him from
doing things that as president he has the right in
the authority to do. They're just going to say no,
you can't do that, and they'll eventually get overturned by
the Supreme Court and they know that, but they're just
going to keep trying to stop him. If if, if
a judge is allowed to tell the president when he
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has used executive authority to expel non citizens from the
United States, you have to turn the plane around. Can
a judge say you can't bomb the Hohufi's in Yemen?
You have to turn those missiles around, or you have
to turn those planes around? Like where does it stop
and start?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I think that's why Stephen Miller's argument is so persuade persuasive. Also,
I'm gonna circle back to that in a sec Buck,
But this is I think emblematic of why Trump two
point zero is so much more successful than Trump one
point zero was Trump got his fighters, and he put
his team together and they are a dream team of
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advisors of an incredibly high intellect. How many IQ points
do you think the difference between Stephen Miller and that
CNN anchor was Buck twenty?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, this is there's a miss there's a mismatch here.
There is a mismatch to be.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Sure, and there is a high level of intellect sctual
heft that did not exist on the same level for
Trump one point zero. And I think when you hear
the Trump team make their arguments, and you see how
well they can slap down the counter arguments. It is
incredible how much difference there is, and not only intelligence,
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but also comprehension of the issues. Now, let me circle back,
because I think this is an important part of the
larger story here. What Stephen Miller is pointing out is
that federal district court judges do not have the authority
to micro manage the power of the executive branch. Trump clearly,
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and even the CNN anchor didn't argue, Trump clearly has
the ability to, as you pointed out, order strikes against
the huties, or to decide that he wants to in
some way move around brigades inside of Europe or in
the United States. There isn't an ability of a federal
district court to challenge it. And Democrats are so desperate
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to restrain Trump that what you really have and this
is why the Supreme Court needs to look at this
is a distinction between the Supreme Court reviewing and the
judiciary reviewing the acts of the executive to determine whether
or not they are constitutional in a big picture sense
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and micro managing on a day to day basis the
individual actions that the executive orders and what they're trying
to do. And this is what I sat was pointing
out yesterday, arguing about birthright citizenship is the province of
the judiciary. That's a big picture thing. Trump said, executive authority. Hey,
I'm interpreting the fourteenth Amendment this way. Courts are going
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to have their take. I actually think that's going to
be a challenge for Trump, even at the Supreme Court.
But Trump has the clear ability to make decisions as
it pertains to border security, which is the same thing
that Biden was allowed to do, unfortunately to the detriment
of the country. And so Stephen Miller is just destroying
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this argument that this left wing CNN host is trying
to make it. You know, this buck from television. There's
probably some frantic producer in her ear trying to give
her this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, they're trying to bail her out. And this also, though,
I think, goes to what the administration learned from the
first term to this term, and that is the process
is the punishment. Delay is the game, and they can't
allow that to happen. A big part of people will
say this and they don't like when I point this out,
but then they always admit that I'm right. Like I'll
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hear people on the right of vote for Trump say, well,
you know, Russia collusion. It didn't work. I mean, it
didn't get all the way, but it certainly slowed down
and jammed up and messed up the administration in twenty
seventeen to have to deal with all the nonsense and
the media and the lawyers and the depositions and everything else.
Here's Stephen Miller saying, we see what we see the
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game here. If every person that Trump is going to
deport who is an illegal gets a federal judge saying no,
you can't do that. You know this, then the whole
thing just collapses. Is cut to play it?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
How are you going to expel illegal alien invaders from
our country who are raping little girls, who are murdering
little girls. If each and every deportation has to be
adjudicated and a district court judge, and that means you
have no country. It means you have no sovereignty, It
means you have no future. It is fundamentally incompatible to
have a country and have individual expulsions adjudicated by a
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single distract court judge.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm just trying to figure out the system, do you,
Because what does the Trump administration believe, because we do
have separation of powers in this country.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I hear what you're saying, Yes, poweriary, you're fearing Stevens.
Let the executive function is the separation of power. That
is the see to ignore the judge's order here because
you thought you could. So the judges and the actions
taken by the Departments of the Defense, Justice, and Homeland
Security are not in conflict. And the department just has
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been clear that they are not in conflict.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
See. The whole thing here with the CNN anger to
be clear is they want the administration to say, well,
they're just ignoring judges, and then that becomes oh my gosh,
you know, constitutional crisis and all the rest of it.
But in reality, the judge's order was insane. Okay, yes, plane,
plane in flight, turn the plane around. As Steven he
even went in up to point this out. He's like,
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do they know what route the plane is on? This
is a national security issue. It's got a bunch of
trend to Aragua terrorists on it. You're just going to
change the route? Do you know? You know who's meeting
the plane on the other side? What you know. The
whole thing it is, it is insane that this judge
did this. But if you go and you look at him,
he's got a super anti Trump, lunatic wife. He was
(26:51):
involved with the Russia collusion fives and nonsense. He's an
anti Trump hashtag resistant psycho. It's like a member of
what's that group, the the Lincoln Project or whatever it
is that the Lincoln Project has a judge and it's
this guy.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, and look, this is the angle. I told you
that this is the angle they're gonna try to take yesterday.
They're very clearly going to try to avoid arguing against
what Trump did in terms of the deportation, and instead,
buck they're going to argue he's a dictator. He's defying
(27:25):
court orders.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
They're not going to talk about whether the court order
was legitimate. They're not going to talk about what the
court order actually did or would have required, which is
bringing felons back into the country. They're going to talk
about the fact that he defied an order. And I'll
tell you what they're also going to do. And we
told you this was coming, but prepare yourself. Trump is
(27:47):
not going to be flawless on the deportations. I'm just
telling all of you this, He's not going to be flawless.
They're gonna get the wrong guy. They're gonna it's it's
impossible to be one hundred percent accurate. And what they're
going to do is they're going to find that anecdote,
that guy who was misidentified, and they're going to turn
him into a national symbol of Trump's authoritarianism. And this
(28:12):
is why anecdotal stories buck are often unfair because the
anecdote should be representative of the larger story.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
People connect on a story basis.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
When an anecdote is the outlier, which is what happened
with BLM, most people will have great relationships and interactions
with police. One thing goes bad, and this is indicative
of how every black person in America is taught, is treated,
and so it's fundamentally unfair.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's propaganda. This is what they're trying to do right now.
This Mackmood Khalil guy. What you're saying is what they're
trying to do right now now. Machmood Khalil is for
a lot of us not sympathetic at all. So that's
the only difference. But they've tried to rally around this
guy and say that he is the first example of
Trump's overreach and authoritarianism and all the rest of it. Yeah,
(29:00):
I mean, try try not to have some pro homast
you hating miniac as your as your standard bearer, and
things will probably be better off for the Democrats. But
we'll see, once again with Trenda Raguwall, you have Democrats
going to the mat to defend really the worst of
the worst, the worst of the worst. And that's the
other part of this too, Clay, Like, we're arguing about
this on the on the legal grounds and the constitutional grounds.
(29:22):
For a lot of people, it's just you know, I
just don't want these these scumbag gang members who aren't
even allowed to be in the country in the first place,
to be here anymore. And whoever gets rid of them,
I like that, get them out of the country. You know,
Trump understands that aspect of this too. There's no there's
no normal person who's like, you know what, we really
need more trying to Iragua hitman in America. That would
(29:45):
be good. Let's have more of that. So yeah, he's
he's forcing them to uh to to take some very
unpopular stands but Democrats again run up the scoreboard. Everybody.
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Speaker 2 (31:04):
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Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
A report on what Trump and Putin spoke about is
now out. I'm reading this from Caroline Levitt, who posted
this on social media. Today, President Trump and President Putin
spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire in
the Ukraine War. Both leaders agreed this conflict needs to
(31:30):
end with a lasting peace. They also stress the need
for improved bilateral relations between the United States and Russia.
The blood and treasure that both Ukraine and Russia have
been spending in this war, would we better spent on
the needs of their people. Conflicts should have never started
and should have ended long ago with sincere and good
(31:52):
faith piece efforts. Again, I'm reading from the statement, the
leaders agreed the movement to peace will begin with an
energy and an infrastructure cease fire, as well as technical
negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea,
full cease fire and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately.
(32:14):
In the Middle East, the leader spoke broadly about the
Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent
future conflict. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation
of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure
the broadest possible application. The two leaders shared the view
(32:34):
Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel,
and the two leaders agreed a future with an improved
bilateral relationship between the US and Russia has huge upside,
including enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has
been achieved. That is the statement that was just released.
(32:56):
On the call between Putin and Trump. Up a little
bit earlier, we were talking about when was the last
time Biden talked. Biden had not spoken to Putin since
the invasion of Ukraine. He did speak to him in
twenty twenty one. Just to FYI. We were asking. I
was whether they had spoken while Biden was in office.
(33:17):
It happened in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I think all of that is moving in a very
favorable direction. I guess the question out here and again
that is the statement we just released that was just
released by the White House. If Trump is able to
actually get peace in Ukraine, wouldn't he deserve the Nobel
Peace Prize? Like in an honest, legitimate world. Wouldn't this
(33:45):
be the very definition of what a mediator and or
leader who was not directly involved in the conflict should
receive for ending a conflict of this significance.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yes, of course, But the Nobel Peace Prize has gone
to Barack ob for doing nothing. I think Yaser Erafat
got it at one point. You look at the people
who've gotten the Nobel Peace Prize and it has unfortunately
become a a bit of a political joke in a
lot of ways. So I know your point is well taken,
which is that this would be a momentous, momentous diplomatic
(34:19):
win and not just a win for humanity. I mean truly,
when I don't know how many of you have watched,
there's a lot of video out there about what's going
on on the Ukraine Russia front and what these soldiers
are going through. It is trench warfare. They have drones
that are flying in at them and blowing people up.
(34:43):
Every day, They've got artillery rounds blowing up all around.
I mean, it's you've got guys that are storming trenches
and you know, machine gunning each other at close range.
Like it's horrible stuff that's happening day in and day
out over there. And bringing this to an end, it
would be such a win. And it's very frustrating, is
(35:05):
even the right word. It's grotesque when you see these
people that are saying, but Trump is just throwing in
the towel. What are these people think is going to happen?
You know, at some point it feels like the Slava
Ukrainian people really just feel like if they string this
thing out long enough, maybe we'll have American sent over
there to do the fighting for them, which is an
absolute red line for you, for me, and I know
(35:27):
for everybody listening. I mean, that's just completely beyond the pale.
We should not lose a single American life, a single
American finger fighting over who's in control of the eastern
portion of Ukraine. And in the meantime, there's nothing to
be gained in the long run for Ukraine continuing to
fight and lose its entire able bodied male population, when
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there's the possibility that you could still have a country
that is functioning, a country that has a homeland for
the Ukrainian people, and wouldn't be in the midst of
it a horrible and bloody war. Like I said, Clay,
it used to be that the Democrats were supposedly the
peace party. They were really the undermine America during time
of war party. That's actually more accurate, but they would
at least go through the motions of pretending that they
(36:13):
didn't want, you know, don't go after Saddam in the
first war, don't go after Saddam in the second ward.
Don't you know? They were the ones that were saying
we and maybe they're right about the second one, but
we shouldn't be fighting these wars, except when it comes
to wars like this where there's some humanitarian interest and
no real American interest at stake. So I think that
(36:33):
if Trump was able to pull this off, it's a
huge win all around. And again it brings us back
to yes, Trump out there negotiating to end wars and
stop bloodshed, just like Hitler would have done. I would
also point out, if we could get a ceasefire, the
price of gas would drop immediately in a significant fashion.
(37:00):
Trump sees that he knows all this stuff with Russia
has hurt us economically, probably in the West, more than
it's hurt Russia. Russia doesn't really care.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And even the opening backup of the Black Sea would
dramatically decrease prices for a variety of goods, including is am.
I correct that Ukraine is one of the largest wheat
producing countries in the world, and that you know, you know,
the amount of goods that the grain is used to
(37:29):
produce has also driven up the cost. And I've been
told that because of the shipping costs associated with the
dangers of the Black Sea. The other thing is Trump
has attacked the huties in the Red Sea area, right
that is also driven up the cost of goods being
shipped around the world. So while there is a great
(37:51):
focus on tariffs and what the impact of the cost
of goods could be for tariffs, I think in Trump's
internal calculation, he is seeing the ending of the wars
to the extent that we can keep them ended. And
I know they've reignited right now in the Middle East,
But if you could end the war in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
This summer. I think you would see a massive deflationary
movement on a variety of the price of goods, in
particular oil and gas. You know, there is there is
a historical mirror image here perhaps, or there's echoes of
when Reagan came into office. Vulkar had to tighten things,
(38:33):
tighten things at a level that way beyond what we've
seen so far in terms of how high rates had
to go. And yeah, I mean there was essentially a recession.
Reagan more or less inherited that recession, but you had
to you had to get the you know, you had
to clear the system out, you had to get things
under control, and there was a little bit of economic
(38:56):
pain that the country had to go through early on,
and then one years of boom and prosperity afterwards. Right, So,
if this is a Reagan moment for Trump on the economy,
and I think there are a lot of reasons to
believe that it could be and that it will be.
The historical analogy here is very favorable. But it might
(39:17):
take a year, eighteen months something like that for things
to really get cooking the way they would like them to.
You cannot fix a problem that others refuse to fix
and expect that there's not going to be some discomfort
along the way, because why wouldn't they fix it if
that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
This is, though, a very good sign. I think it's
hard to spin it as a bad sign. It'll be
interesting to see what the larger media ecosystem says about this. Remember,
Ukraine has effectively already agreed to a thirty day ceasefire,
and it sounds like Russia is willing to potentially get
(39:55):
involved as well.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Let's say, let's just go through a best case scenario
for those of us who are adults, and then I'll
tell you what the Libs will say and how they'll
play this. Right, Let's assume that this ceasefire goes forward,
and maybe it doesn't, and maybe, you know, maybe Trump
ends up having to drop the hammer on Putin with
a whole lot more economic warfare stuff, and that's all possible. Okay,
we don't know. We don't get ahead of ourselves here,
(40:18):
but if you're gonna wargain this out a little bit, uh,
Let's assume, Clay, that the ceasefire goes forward and it
is durable, and we go into at every phase of
the ceasefire. You know, you'll be hearing from Democrats Putin
got too much of what he wanted, and he could
break the ceasefire any moment. Putin got too much of
what he wanted, and he could break the ceasefire any
(40:40):
You're gonna hear that over and over for months and
months and months, so that by the time it's clear
that this conflict, if this happens, this conflict actually has
ceased to be the war, the meat grinder of humanity
that it has been. They're just hoping to play this
out so that nobody even realizes that Trump is well,
you know, if you extend this out and complain about
(41:02):
it the whole time, it denies him, at some level
the victory, the political victory at least to some that
he would be winning by ending this thing. You see
what I mean. They complain, They say, we don't know yet,
we don't know yet, and they keep doing that until
eventually when it's clear, oh no, Trump actually pulled off
something of a diplomatic miracle here, people will have moved
(41:23):
on to other things that I think that's how they
play it because they're never going to say, wow, he's
a brilliant statesman, and he saved thousands and thousands of
lives and had the economy boom because of it.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
It is a really good sign that they are talking.
I think again, we read you the read out on
the report. I am cautiously optimistic. I like to be
able to look at polymarket. It has now buck the
chances of a ceasefire by May one at sixty percent.
(41:55):
You know, you can go take either side on this
on this prediction market, right, It's kind of interesting to
look at, but that is a small favorite that we
may have a ceasefire in Ukraine by May one. The
other reason, the timing matters on this a lot buck,
and I do think it's worth, you know, reinforcing this
on a regular basis. Typically as it gets warm in Ukraine,
(42:18):
the armies are better able to move and the overall
fatality rates increase. It's still the midst of winter over
there right now, but moving the fighting scenes essentially the
same thing was true in Afghanistan when when the mountain
passes melt down and it's easier to you know, to
move around, you get more fighting and more shooting. So
hopefully if there is a ceasefire, they could get a
(42:39):
ceasefire in place by the time it starts to warm
up there, so that we can limit the overall amount
of death that might be occurring. And again to your point, yes,
very hilarian of Trump to try to end the largest
war in Europe since World War Two. It's exactly what
Hitler would have done if he had been in a
(43:01):
position of prominence in America. And obviously we're ridiculing the
absurdity of that.
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Speaker 1 (44:54):
Our friend Josh Hammer joins us now senior editor at
Large of Newsweek and host of The Josh Hammer Show.
He's got a new book released today. He's coming out
on the show to tell everybody about it. Israel and civilization,
the fate of the Jewish nation and the destiny of
the West. Already doing great numbers on Amazon. Go get
(45:16):
your copy today, mister Hammer. Great to have you with us, Sir.
I wanted to get your take first if I could,
before we dive into the book, which everyone should go
get a copy of. I know it's doing great so far,
the end of the ceasefire in Israel and the new
posture or the renewed posture perhaps toward Hamas. What do
you make of it?
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Well, but great to join you in Thanks for the
book support. Look to me, the ball is clearly in
Benjamin ninten Yaho's court, Buck, I mean, Donald Trump is
all in for US as relations. He's used the rhetoric
of give them hell to pay. He's made it very
clear that he and his cabinet are going to stand
shoulder to shoulder with the Israeli governments when it comes
to diplomacy, when it comes to the military, when it
(45:59):
comes to trying to eradicate the entirety of the Hamas
political and military cancer from the Gaza's trip. So for
some weeks now, Buck, I've been saying, the ball is
in Nityahu's court. I mean, Biebe has basically lived his
entire adult life for moments just like this. He has
led his entire adult life to wait for the opportunity
to go in and do what needs to be done,
(46:21):
so to speak, whether it's in Gaza, whether it's in
Lebanon and has Baalah he did that partially last summer actually,
or whether it's really the grand threat of all in
the region, which of course is the Islamus regime in Tehran.
So I'm not surprised that the ceasefire broke. Frankly, Hamas
only has itself to blame. I mean, with a medieval
Islamis death cult, they had any number of opportunities to
(46:42):
avoid this outcome. They completely brought this upon themselves, and frankly,
this is a necessary thing that has to happen or
if there to be any resolution whatsoever in the.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Region, congrats on the book. I know all the work
that goes into that. I hope you're having a good
time with it officially being out. What is the ultimate goal?
Do you think when it comes to Gaza? What should happen,
what's likely to happen, what does history suggest should happen.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
It looks like Donald Trump has a certain vision in mind.
I mean, he wants the United States to take over Gaza.
I will be I'll be honest with you. That was
not on my personal bingo card. I'm not sure that, frankly,
that it was on Bibi Netanyahu's bingo card. I mean,
you look at his facial expression at the joint press
conference when Donald Trump announced that to the world. It
was quite humorous to look at the way that Netanyahu
and the Israeli officials in the room reacted to that.
(47:32):
I'm open to being persuaded of that. That's not entirely
what my first guest would have been, But look, in
my heart of hearts, I would love to see the
Arabs there find a permanent home in Jordan or Egypt,
which seems to be Donald Trump's preferred approach, and for
Israel to go ahead and take it over. Realistically speaking,
I think the most likely way that this ultimately ends
is you get some sort of consortium of the more
(47:53):
moderate Sunni Arab states, the Saudi's and Moradis, Bahraini's, maybe
the Egyptians if they're willing to play ball, and they
kind of go in there jointly together and try to
make sure that Islamism and jihadism will not be the
way forward there. But that's going to entail some sort
of American Israeli or some sort of joint presence there
even with that, because frankly, even these guys, the more
(48:15):
moderate forces, I'm not sure just how much we can
trust them for the mintal long term Josh.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
For people who don't know, I was over in Israel
in December, the amount of Immen's popularity for Trump in
Israel is off the charts. In fact, Trump, if they
Israel had had a vote in the American presidential election,
would have won like he did in West Virginia or Wyoming.
What do you think Israelis believe when they see that
(48:41):
Trump is being attacked by Democrats here as Hitler.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Well, Clay, I'll tell you exactly what Israelis believed, because
I happened to be married to one, and I happen
to have in laws here in Florida where I live.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Who are them?
Speaker 5 (48:54):
And I taught them every day. The Israeli people are
about the Trumpiest people in the basically the entire world.
I'm not sure if there's a single foreign country where
Trump has a higher approval rating than the state of
Israel for a very clear and compelling reason, which is
that Donald Trump is the most pro Israel. Frankly, he's
the most pro Jewish president in American history there. And
(49:16):
you know, this is something of an issue that I
think a lot of people here, even on the Rights
don't fully understand, is how can American Jews vote disproportionately
so much for the Democratic Party while Israeli Jews are
so supportive of the Republican person in this case, that
would be Donald Trump. I actually talked about that quite
a bit in the book Israel and Civilization, and it's
(49:36):
maybe a longer and more complicated conversation there. But the
Israeli people in general are emphatically pro Trump. They even
named the town after him. Clad there's literally a town
in the Goal On Heights called Trump Heights, Ramat Trump
would be the Hebrew word. I know it because I've
been there. I actually drove by, got out of the car,
took a selfie on the side of the road there
with the road sign ramat Trump.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
So they're all in.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
They're all in for President Trump there, and as they
should because Donal Trump is deeply supportive of the state
of Israel.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
All right, let's talk about the book Josh out today,
Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation and
the Destiny of the West by Josh Hammer. What do
people need to know and why should they pick up
their copy?
Speaker 5 (50:15):
So, Buck, the book Israel and Civilization, both fortunately and unfortunately,
I think could not possibly be timelyer. I'm a little biased,
but I happen to think that that it is very timely.
On the one hand, Buck, you have the woke left,
which is obviously a horrific, cancerous actor. But there is
an increasing portion even of people on the nominal rights,
(50:36):
not a loud portion, but there are some people that
are really calling for the US to abandon Israel. And frankly,
I think deep down on these people's hearts, what they
really want to do is ultimately to convince American Christians
to just leave the Jewish shade and leave the Jewish
people behind. So I took upon myself to write this
book basically calling for Jews and Christians alike to lock
arms and stand shoulder to shoulder like never before, and
(50:58):
to fall in love with the biblical inheritance again, because
it actually is that ecumenical biblical inheritance that frankly founded
this country, going back in seventeen seventy six, Thomas Jefferson,
Benjamin Franklin, they wanted the National Seal of the United
States to be Moses partying in the Red Sea. Abraham Lincoln,
my own favorite figure in American history, described famously Americans
as an almost chosen people, using that covenantal language from
(51:21):
the Hebrew Bible. The Liberty Bell in Philadelphia literally has
a scriptural quote from the Book of Leviticus right on
the outside of it there. So the book is kind
of painstakingly arguing that's so much what we take for
granted today when it comes to our law, politics, morals, ethics,
and so forth, really does go back to Scripture and
that we cannot abandon that. But the book is also
relevant buff because I make a very clear maga America
(51:44):
first hard headed realist case for US Israel relations and
the importance of US Israel ties. You have a lot
of people that are screaming, oh, the Israel issue. Oh,
it's an old neo con neo conservative issue. It's an
old Bush administration, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld issue. Sorry, but
the answer is no, that's not what it is. Donald
Trump is not a neo conservetive. He is a foreign
policy realist, and he's the most pro Israel president in
(52:07):
American history. There if you want to focus disproportionately on China,
which I think America needs to do, because again I'm
a realist who believes in limited resources, the question is
how do you secure American interest in the Middle East
while allowing you to extra kate resources to the Indo Pacific.
And the obvious answer, which Trump and BB got to
in the Abrahamic Cords, is to empower and embolden our
(52:29):
allies in the region to secure that region in a
way there were downs to all of our interests. So
I think that this explicitly realist case for Us' relations
is very timely and very important. But it's all in
there Israel and civilization, the fate of the Jewish Nation
and the Destiny of the West Amazon, Barnes and Noble,
wherever you get your.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Books, Josha, when you look at the history and I
got your book and I was looking through it, and
I was fascinated because again, I just came back from Israel.
How optimistic are you about peace in the Middle East?
Because for thousands of years it hasn't happened. Are you
optimistic that in the lifetime of the people that are
listening to us right now, we could have some form
(53:07):
of peace in the Middle East?
Speaker 5 (53:09):
Yes, and no, I think that there that there is
such a thing as a as a more tranquil regions,
as a more peaceful region that is less prone to
violent eruptions of jihadism. Frankly, Clay, that's ultimately going to take.
It's going to have to take the Iranian regime to go,
because the Irani regime currently is is the head of
the sink. They are the source of virtually all of
(53:29):
the violent jihad that that goes across the Middle East. Now,
to be clear, I'm not saying that America needs to
go and start toppling the Ayatola. That's not my stance,
but somewhere, some way or another, whether it comes from
sanctions or the or the Mike Pompeo esque maximum pressure campaign,
that regime is going to have to go. So at
some point, God willing in a post Islamic republic Aroan
(53:50):
there where jihad is on the decline, then yes, I
think the Middle East could be a lot more stable
than it is today.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Has Blah, the.
Speaker 5 (53:57):
Hoofis Hamas, all these forces would be subdued, if not
made completely extinct without their major benefactor in Tehran. On
the other hand, you still do have the issue of Islam,
and there are very real questions I think are worth
asking and exploring as to the extent to which Islam
will ever itself, even any more moderate form, ever be
comfortable fully with a Jewish state there in the heart
(54:20):
of the Middle East. And I don't really fully know
the answer to that, but I do think that after
Iran goes and God willing going to be at some
points again, not that the US has to topple them,
but at some point that regime is going to have
to go at some point, Clay, after that, I think
things will definitely be better, if not fully solved.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Israel and civilization the Fate of the Jewish Nation and
the Destiny of the West. Josh Hammer is the author.
Go get your copy of the book today. Hammer time.
Great to have you, my friend. Thanks for being here, gentlemen,
my pleasure. Thank you so much. Many people will use
the word disruption to describe the beginning of twenty twenty five.
It's appropriate. We elected a president to disrupt the deep state,
(54:55):
to remove roadblocks and reduce the size of government. But
there are bound to be other disruptions well, and they
could hit the financial markets, the housing markets, the whole
range of things. So I invited somebody with great experience
covering the financial markets, somebody with a great track record
for predictions in this space, to talk to me in
a videotaped interview that we've posted online. While I might
have helped to organize the online video event, it was
(55:16):
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Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition off the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off right now thanks to the guy
who high five to me on the way out of
the gym today. Clay says he listens every day, loves
the show. I wish I could have stayed longer, but
I was like, I gotta go do the show. So
it was a close one had to run home, but
I got here and we have a lot to get
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into today. President Trump announcing eighty thousand documents on the
assassination of JFT will be released, and he has asked
that the files not be redacted. I can't imagine how
there would be any justification to continue a redaction at
this point, but we shall see what is released. Eighty
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remember eighty thousand pages. So anybody who within minutes of
this thing of the document drop says I know who
killed JFK. Just grain of salt, like, let's see what's
actually in this thing. I know. I'm not going to
take out my wampwomp button quite yet on it. We'll see,
but I am in wait and see mode for sure.
President Trump has announced that Hunter and Ashley Biden will
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no longer have Secret Service protection. They had Clay eighteen
and thirteen agents. Assignments are crazy, respectively. Hunter Biden had
eighteen Secret Service agents. Eighteen Secret Service agents. Like this
is outrageous, outrageous. I mean this, you know, if you're
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the president. The way they usually do this is they
start to fade it out. I mean presidents, I guess
former presidents. I think once you get past two terms,
you really don't need a Secret Service detail anymore. I'm
a little bit of a maybe a radical on this
whole thing. I think people just need to like get
a grip. It's okay. You know, no one cares that
you were president three presidents ago that much. You know,
(01:47):
like don't don't go to Moscow on vacation and you'll
be fine. So anyway I find this, I think we've
gotten way too much of a praetorian rialse. It was
eighteen That is crazy. I mean that that is this
guy was traveling with a platoon of Secret Service agents
in case what I mean, think about and think about
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what they probably saw too. Don't even get me started.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Also, to your point, it's not I mean he lived
in Malibu. I mean, do we think that he was
in perpetual danger from all of the super libs in Malibu,
like that they were going to.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Do something to him. No, this is this is just
so that you can have a you can have a
taxpayer funded chauffeur and and security. And you know, I
want to know what all these guys are doing all
the time. It's the whole thing is completely outrageous. And
and this this thing, you know, we allow presidents to
determine really what the presidents get, and these guys have
(02:45):
way too much. It's it's it's crazy. The former presidents,
some of them have just I think, like Nixon said,
I don't even really I want to get my own
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I wouldn't want I mean, I doesn't feel to me
like it would be very much fun to have have
security with you. I mean, we've had to have security
for some events. Obviously, when somebody wanted to kill me,
we had security. So we have security off and on.
I'm not knocking the idea, but it isn't A eighteen
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agents is for someone who has ever had security is
a absolutely insane number. And I remember, if I recall,
maybe we'll talk to Miranda Devine about this tomorrow, because
she really kind of broke this story on the New
York Post. But Buck, it also was the case that
I believe that Secret Service was renting a high end
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mansion next door to him to use as the base
to be able to protect Hunter when he was living
in the Sugar Daddy's house in Malibu.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, the whole thing is outrageous. Man, This is completely unjustifiable,
and I think that it's the right move. Look, presidents,
you know, they need to be protected, especially this president,
need to be protected with whatever is required. But you know,
if you were just the most recent president, Okay, but
your family, Ashley Biden, give me, give me a break,
all right. You know you got to live with a
(04:07):
certain degree of just life is uncertain. I'm sorry, Like,
you can't go around twenty Secret Service agents the rest
of my life, please, all right. So anyway, that's something
we can talk a little more about. Cease fire between
Israel and hamas is over Israeli jets have been striking Gaza,
and the Israelis are just saying they're not waiting for
they're not waiting for hostages anymore. Enough is enough that
(04:30):
judge who ordered the planes to turn around with the trend.
De Aragua members on it is really digging in and
getting crazier and crazier, which which we will make some
sense of today. And yes, oh and then we have
what's going on right now? Why don't we jump into
this one because I think it ties into everything. Trump
(04:50):
has been on the phone this morning with Vladimir Putin,
and remember Klay last week, the conversation was, Oh, it's
too early, and there's so so many conditions, and really
downplaying that Trump was even likely or is even possible
he could get any kind of a breakthrough if this results,
If this call results in a ceasefire, and we should
(05:11):
know pretty imminently. I think if at least a ceasefire
has been preliminarily agreed to, does the media cover it
as a breakthrough or do they cover it as well?
We won't really know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, Look, the ceasefire in general is now ended in
the Middle East, right, so ceasefires are not perpetual, never
ending ceasefire realities. But I do feel like if they
start the ceasefire in Ukraine with Russia, tell me if
(05:45):
you agree with this, at least during Trump's remaining term
in office, Vladimir Putin will not invade Ukraine anymore. Do
you feel good about that, like if you had to
predict based on what we saw in the first turn
when he didn't invade, and whatever you feel about this,
I do believe that Trump and Putin have a somewhat
(06:08):
decent relationship that actually is brought together by the total
why that Russia won Trump the twenty sixteen election. Trump
knows that's not true, Putin knows that's not true. We
and by the way, the United States, I'm curious if
you would agree with this, Buck probably spends more money
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trying to influence foreign elections than any country in the world.
So the idea that we're gonna be like grabbing our
pearls and falling on to a fainting couch that other
countries would in some way seek favor in our own
elections when we are, I believe, probably the biggest manipulator
(06:50):
of international elections of any country in the world. But
they didn't have any massive impact. The whole Russia collusion
story was a lie. The money that Russia spent on
Facebook ads was a pinprick of what was spent, like
one hundred and k of billions of dollars that were spent.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Hardly anyone saw them. They were poorly designed.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
My point on this is, I think the Trump Putin
relationship is actually closer because of the lies that they
both went through there. I don't feel like if we
get a ceasefire, Putin will violate it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Am I crazy in your mind?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
As a former CIA analyst put your CIA analyst hat
on here, how would you assess the likelihood?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I think you have to add to that that these
are two men who recognizing each other historic figures and
alpha dogs, so to speak. I think that that's that
shouldn't be underestimated. That there is some degree of respect
between these two. I don't know if it would be affection,
(07:54):
but it's respect, you know. I'm not sure they like
each other, but they definitely look at each other as
two guys who, like I said, they're historic, they are
men of the moment. And yes, I think that if
there is a ceasefire that is agreed to. I think
that Putin knows that making Trump look silly is a
dangerous thing to do, meaning that there would be real
(08:17):
consequences for Russia that he does not want. And I
think that he that Putin recognizes that is true. Now
that was not true in the same way obviously under
Biden when he invaded on Biden's watch and did all
this stuff. So we are in a better situation. I
think that you know, they'll be there'll be some negotiating
(08:39):
that happens here. This is not going to be everyone
comes out of this phone call today high fiving and
the war is over, and you know Russian, Russian and
Ukrainian soldiers are going to be kissing ladies out in
the street in jubilation. That's not going to happen, unfortunately.
But I think that you might get to, you know,
a couple of points have to be agreed to, and
then there'll be a ceasefire for thirty days and then
(09:00):
we'll see and the ceasefire is going to be a
rolling process. Look, the same thing has been true with
the Israeli ceasefire which just ended. The Israeli said, okay,
we'll do a ceasefire and we have these conditions and
this is what we expect, and Hamas, because it's a
psychopathic terrorist organization, violates the conditions, won't give back the hostages,
so then fighting resumes. You may see something similar with
(09:23):
Russia and Ukraine. But to your point, overall I think
is true, which is you're not going to have Trump
say I think we've got a ceasefire for thirty days,
and then ten days into it, Vladimir Putin is pulling
some nonsense, you know, firing missiles into Kiev and acting
like he can get away with whatever he wants, because
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there will be consequences when Trump is the commander in chief, financial,
maybe diplomatic, maybe maybe other stuff. But Trump's not going
to allow that to go unpunished. Yeah, you're I think
you're right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
And look, I am just genuinely curious how the media
will cover it. I saw I was reading over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
I don't know if you saw it. They do this
grid Iron dinner where everybody in the media comes and
they and they make their usual jokes. And your boy,
Governor Wes Moore of Maryland got up and made all
these jokes about Russia and Trump and how Trump is
putin stooge, and everybody was just rolling over laughing. And
(10:29):
it feels to me such an antiquated joke to be making.
But I would almost guarantee for you that whatever the
peace agreement or ceasefire is reached between Ukraine and Russia,
that it will somehow be used as evidence that Trump
is the Manchurian candidate for Vladimir Putin. And I say
(10:50):
that because they don't seem to be able to come
up with any other new lines of attack. Is that
kind of interesting? Like Trump is in awe right now?
And leave aside the fact that the Democrat Party has
lit itself on fire. Lowest approval ratings going all the
way back for NBC and CNN as long as they've
been doing those polls right literally have never been lower.
(11:13):
But the thing that maybe surprises me the most is
they buck They can't even come up.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
With any new lines of attack.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
They tried the oh it's president elon and everybody was like, yeah,
that's not really working right because you told us he's
a dictator. So is he a dictator or is he
actually just the stooge of someone else? Like they're actually
mixing messages. They can't even figure out what their.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Attack angle is on Trump right now. It is deep
in the recesses of the Democrat mind right now. But
I really do believe that there is a widespread quiet
panic that they will never address and they will never accept,
But it's in the back of their minds. And it's saying,
(12:00):
maybe you were just wrong about this top to bottom.
Maybe you were just wrong about this guy in every respect,
and he's actually going to be great for the country,
and you did everything possible to ruin and destroy him,
and he just kept on coming and it's going to
benefit not just his voters but America. These you know
(12:21):
people we saw this with COVID. People would rather look
like morons than accept that they were really wrong on
something they were very dug in on. And you're even
seeing some of these people, I think you're right, Buck, Privately,
they're having light bulbs go off and they're thinking, what
(12:41):
if I was actually on the wrong side of history, right,
because remember how long they hit us with that all
through you're enabling, you're platforming, you're on the wrong side
of history. I don't hear wrong side of history arguments
really anymore. Let's we can just take stock of this
for a minute, they said, And it was a widespread
narrative across the entire Democrat Party from the top down
(13:03):
from Kamala to who is the guy who was their
vice president, Tim Walls, all these people they said he
was a fascist and that he was Hitler like that
he was America's Hitler. Here we are it's not even
two months in. He's bringing an asterisk. He's let an
astronauts come back from outer space while Biden left them
up there stranded for political reasons. He secured the border,
(13:26):
which every country should be allowed to do. When every
Democrat said they wanted to do, they were lying. He's
trying to get rid of government waste, fraud and abuse.
He's trying to end a horrific meat grinder of a
war that has got hundreds of thousands of casualties and
no end in sight. Does any of this sound like
Hitler stuff? Like where's the scary fascist stuff? Yeah, he's
(13:48):
got the richest man in the world working for free
to try to stop waste and fraud. So the price
of eggs will come down. And wow, guess what the
price of eggs is already coming down? Clay, Remember when
two weeks ago it was hasn't he brought the price
of eggs down?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'm literally looking right now from our friend Libs of
TikTok Buck. Price of eggs since he entered office has
collapsed by fifty percent. I mean their attack angles. According
to her January twenty first, twenty twenty five. And I
will let me be clear, because I always get egg emails.
People are like, it costs this at my store of like, okay,
(14:23):
I'm not an expert at what.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You paid for eggs this morning?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
All right, But according to Hya at Libs of TikTok,
six dollars fifty five cents was the average cost of
a dozen eggs when Trump entered office on January twenty first,
they now cost three dollars in twenty two cents. That's
half right, just and I apologize if you paid four
to sixty this morning. I don't need you to email
(14:48):
me about what the Safeway cost in your hometown. I'm
just telling you nationwide, that's the average.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Now you know what they're gonna have to explain to
us on Morning Joe, though, You know who is really
opposed to eggs costing too much? Hitler? Just like Hitler
bringing the price of eggs down. Hitler. I always love you.
Know when we were at mar Lago with Trump and
he insisted that we get milkshakes because Marlon will make
(15:13):
the best milk. Classic, classic, classic Hitler move, just total
Hitler move. You know we're getting everyone milkshakes high fives
for everybody, just like Hitler would have done.
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Speaker 1 (16:49):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Occasionally you
see a butt kicking on cable news that involves so
much knowledge, It is so erudite, so exceptional, that you
feel like everybody was done a favor by this. The
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anchor who gets completely crushed by the guests, who knows
a lot more, the audience, including audience that does not
like the conservative guests because at least they're learning something,
and all of us get to just cheer and clap
and laugh about how the whole thing went down. Stephen Miller,
we should put this up on clayanbuck dot com. In
(17:31):
a nine minute long segment that was essentially about whether
this judge who decided that he would tell planes in
the air that they had to turn around, think about
the authority, Think about the power that this judge thinks
that he has. The plans have already left. I am
(17:52):
ordering those planes to turn around and come back to
the United States. One. There are one hundred of federal
district district judges across the country, hundreds of them. One
of them can just be like, I disagree with this
move by the president. He has to bring the planes home.
Oh okay. Stephen Miller had an exchange with one of
(18:15):
the is a Casey Hunt Is that right? I think
I don't even know who's on Casey point. Yeah, Tomato,
Tomato right, So I'm not sure. But he had an
exchange with a CNN anchor. We wanted to hear some
parts of this. We broke it up for you. It's
nine minutes long. The whole thing's up at Clay and Buck.
But Stephen Miller was taking no prisoners on this one.
One of his best. He's had many good moments on TV,
(18:37):
but one of his very best. The school bus was
parked out front and school is in session. Play play
clip one. This judge violated the law.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
He violated the we have in this country. Because that
does seem to same these same district court judges didn't
do a damn fit stop Joe Biden from flooding this.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Nation with millions of millions.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Do these district court judges didn't issue any injunctions to
save the lives of Joscelyn Hungary oral courts.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That's that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
What I'm saying is that what you said, there's a
separation of powers. The judiciary exercises student and you are
here to see.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I will do.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
You're here to speak. I will answer that one simple question.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Ready, here we go. Under a proper reading of the constitution,
district court judges provide relief to individual plaintiffs seeking relief.
District court judges do not have the authority as a
general matter to enjoin the functioning of the executive branch,
but their authority is at its lowest point when the
president is exercising his powers as commander in chief. And
(19:45):
I asked you a question you never answered it. Can
a judge enjoined troop movements overseas? Can a district court
judge and join treat movements overseas? Yes, sir, I am
not going to get into the Just say no, and
then you'll know that I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
D I like that. I'm gonna steal that. And for
the next time.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I get into an argument with my wife I don't
know if Steven uses that one with his lovely wife Katie.
Just say no so that you'll know that I'm right
is probably not a marital argument tactic that works well.
But it's phenomenal television, Buck. I mean, that was just
a whipping.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Here's here's what is at the core of the and
again it's it's nine minutes, which were not We can't
play the whole thing on air, but you can go
to Clayanbuck dot com. We'll have it up there for
if you want to see it in one place. It's
worth watching if you can. It's nine minutes and and
what's at there's a lot of things that are an issue,
but really at the core if the whole thing, Clay
is these judges. First of all, we talk about the
number because you can tell this is how partisan leftists,
(20:42):
some of whom are judges, have decided that they're going
to oppose Trump. They're just going to stop him from
doing things that as president he has the right in
the authority to do. They're just going to say no,
you can't do that, and they'll eventually get overturned by
the Supreme Court and they know that, but they're just
going to keep trying to stop him. If if, if
a judge is allowed to tell the president when he
(21:03):
has used executive authority to expel non citizens from the
United States, you have to turn the plane around. Can
a judge say you can't bomb the Hohufi's in Yemen?
You have to turn those missiles around, or you have
to turn those planes around? Like where does it stop
and start?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I think that's why Stephen Miller's argument is so persuade persuasive. Also,
I'm gonna circle back to that in a sec Buck,
But this is I think emblematic of why Trump two
point zero is so much more successful than Trump one
point zero was Trump got his fighters, and he put
his team together and they are a dream team of
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advisors of an incredibly high intellect. How many IQ points
do you think the difference between Stephen Miller and that
CNN anchor was Buck twenty?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, this is there's a miss there's a mismatch here.
There is a mismatch to be.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Sure, and there is a high level of intellect sctual
heft that did not exist on the same level for
Trump one point zero. And I think when you hear
the Trump team make their arguments, and you see how
well they can slap down the counter arguments. It is
incredible how much difference there is, and not only intelligence,
(22:19):
but also comprehension of the issues. Now, let me circle back,
because I think this is an important part of the
larger story here. What Stephen Miller is pointing out is
that federal district court judges do not have the authority
to micro manage the power of the executive branch. Trump clearly,
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and even the CNN anchor didn't argue, Trump clearly has
the ability to, as you pointed out, order strikes against
the huties, or to decide that he wants to in
some way move around brigades inside of Europe or in
the United States. There isn't an ability of a federal
district court to challenge it. And Democrats are so desperate
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to restrain Trump that what you really have and this
is why the Supreme Court needs to look at this
is a distinction between the Supreme Court reviewing and the
judiciary reviewing the acts of the executive to determine whether
or not they are constitutional in a big picture sense
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and micro managing on a day to day basis the
individual actions that the executive orders and what they're trying
to do. And this is what I sat was pointing
out yesterday, arguing about birthright citizenship is the province of
the judiciary. That's a big picture thing. Trump said, executive authority. Hey,
I'm interpreting the fourteenth Amendment this way. Courts are going
(23:46):
to have their take. I actually think that's going to
be a challenge for Trump, even at the Supreme Court.
But Trump has the clear ability to make decisions as
it pertains to border security, which is the same thing
that Biden was allowed to do, unfortunately to the detriment
of the country. And so Stephen Miller is just destroying
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this argument that this left wing CNN host is trying
to make it. You know, this buck from television. There's
probably some frantic producer in her ear trying to give
her this.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, they're trying to bail her out. And this also, though,
I think, goes to what the administration learned from the
first term to this term, and that is the process
is the punishment. Delay is the game, and they can't
allow that to happen. A big part of people will
say this and they don't like when I point this out,
but then they always admit that I'm right. Like I'll
(24:41):
hear people on the right of vote for Trump say, well,
you know, Russia collusion. It didn't work. I mean, it
didn't get all the way, but it certainly slowed down
and jammed up and messed up the administration in twenty
seventeen to have to deal with all the nonsense and
the media and the lawyers and the depositions and everything else.
Here's Stephen Miller saying, we see what we see the
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game here. If every person that Trump is going to
deport who is an illegal gets a federal judge saying no,
you can't do that. You know this, then the whole
thing just collapses. Is cut to play it?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
How are you going to expel illegal alien invaders from
our country who are raping little girls, who are murdering
little girls. If each and every deportation has to be
adjudicated and a district court judge, and that means you
have no country. It means you have no sovereignty, It
means you have no future. It is fundamentally incompatible to
have a country and have individual expulsions adjudicated by a
(25:35):
single distract court judge.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm just trying to figure out the system, do you,
Because what does the Trump administration believe, because we do
have separation of powers in this country.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I hear what you're saying, Yes, poweriary, you're fearing Stevens.
Let the executive function is the separation of power. That
is the see to ignore the judge's order here because
you thought you could. So the judges and the actions
taken by the Departments of the Defense, Justice, and Homeland
Security are not in conflict. And the department just has
(26:06):
been clear that they are not in conflict.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
See. The whole thing here with the CNN anger to
be clear is they want the administration to say, well,
they're just ignoring judges, and then that becomes oh my gosh,
you know, constitutional crisis and all the rest of it.
But in reality, the judge's order was insane. Okay, yes, plane,
plane in flight, turn the plane around. As Steven he
even went in up to point this out. He's like,
(26:30):
do they know what route the plane is on? This
is a national security issue. It's got a bunch of
trend to Aragua terrorists on it. You're just going to
change the route? Do you know? You know who's meeting
the plane on the other side? What you know. The
whole thing it is, it is insane that this judge
did this. But if you go and you look at him,
he's got a super anti Trump, lunatic wife. He was
(26:51):
involved with the Russia collusion fives and nonsense. He's an
anti Trump hashtag resistant psycho. It's like a member of
what's that group, the the Lincoln Project or whatever it
is that the Lincoln Project has a judge and it's
this guy.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, and look, this is the angle. I told you
that this is the angle they're gonna try to take yesterday.
They're very clearly going to try to avoid arguing against
what Trump did in terms of the deportation, and instead,
buck they're going to argue he's a dictator. He's defying
(27:25):
court orders.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
They're not going to talk about whether the court order
was legitimate. They're not going to talk about what the
court order actually did or would have required, which is
bringing felons back into the country. They're going to talk
about the fact that he defied an order. And I'll
tell you what they're also going to do. And we
told you this was coming, but prepare yourself. Trump is
(27:47):
not going to be flawless on the deportations. I'm just
telling all of you this, He's not going to be flawless.
They're gonna get the wrong guy. They're gonna it's it's
impossible to be one hundred percent accurate. And what they're
going to do is they're going to find that anecdote,
that guy who was misidentified, and they're going to turn
him into a national symbol of Trump's authoritarianism. And this
(28:12):
is why anecdotal stories buck are often unfair because the
anecdote should be representative of the larger story.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
People connect on a story basis.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
When an anecdote is the outlier, which is what happened
with BLM, most people will have great relationships and interactions
with police. One thing goes bad, and this is indicative
of how every black person in America is taught, is treated,
and so it's fundamentally unfair.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's propaganda. This is what they're trying to do right now.
This Mackmood Khalil guy. What you're saying is what they're
trying to do right now now. Machmood Khalil is for
a lot of us not sympathetic at all. So that's
the only difference. But they've tried to rally around this
guy and say that he is the first example of
Trump's overreach and authoritarianism and all the rest of it. Yeah,
(29:00):
I mean, try try not to have some pro homast
you hating miniac as your as your standard bearer, and
things will probably be better off for the Democrats. But
we'll see, once again with Trenda Raguwall, you have Democrats
going to the mat to defend really the worst of
the worst, the worst of the worst. And that's the
other part of this too, Clay, Like, we're arguing about
this on the on the legal grounds and the constitutional grounds.
(29:22):
For a lot of people, it's just you know, I
just don't want these these scumbag gang members who aren't
even allowed to be in the country in the first place,
to be here anymore. And whoever gets rid of them,
I like that, get them out of the country. You know,
Trump understands that aspect of this too. There's no there's
no normal person who's like, you know what, we really
need more trying to Iragua hitman in America. That would
(29:45):
be good. Let's have more of that. So yeah, he's
he's forcing them to uh to to take some very
unpopular stands but Democrats again run up the scoreboard. Everybody.
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Speaker 2 (31:04):
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Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
A report on what Trump and Putin spoke about is
now out. I'm reading this from Caroline Levitt, who posted
this on social media. Today, President Trump and President Putin
spoke about the need for peace and a ceasefire in
the Ukraine War. Both leaders agreed this conflict needs to
(31:30):
end with a lasting peace. They also stress the need
for improved bilateral relations between the United States and Russia.
The blood and treasure that both Ukraine and Russia have
been spending in this war, would we better spent on
the needs of their people. Conflicts should have never started
and should have ended long ago with sincere and good
(31:52):
faith piece efforts. Again, I'm reading from the statement, the
leaders agreed the movement to peace will begin with an
energy and an infrastructure cease fire, as well as technical
negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea,
full cease fire and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately.
(32:14):
In the Middle East, the leader spoke broadly about the
Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent
future conflict. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation
of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure
the broadest possible application. The two leaders shared the view
(32:34):
Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel,
and the two leaders agreed a future with an improved
bilateral relationship between the US and Russia has huge upside,
including enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has
been achieved. That is the statement that was just released.
(32:56):
On the call between Putin and Trump. Up a little
bit earlier, we were talking about when was the last
time Biden talked. Biden had not spoken to Putin since
the invasion of Ukraine. He did speak to him in
twenty twenty one. Just to FYI. We were asking. I
was whether they had spoken while Biden was in office.
(33:17):
It happened in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I think all of that is moving in a very
favorable direction. I guess the question out here and again
that is the statement we just released that was just
released by the White House. If Trump is able to
actually get peace in Ukraine, wouldn't he deserve the Nobel
Peace Prize? Like in an honest, legitimate world. Wouldn't this
(33:45):
be the very definition of what a mediator and or
leader who was not directly involved in the conflict should
receive for ending a conflict of this significance.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yes, of course, But the Nobel Peace Prize has gone
to Barack ob for doing nothing. I think Yaser Erafat
got it at one point. You look at the people
who've gotten the Nobel Peace Prize and it has unfortunately
become a a bit of a political joke in a
lot of ways. So I know your point is well taken,
which is that this would be a momentous, momentous diplomatic
(34:19):
win and not just a win for humanity. I mean truly,
when I don't know how many of you have watched,
there's a lot of video out there about what's going
on on the Ukraine Russia front and what these soldiers
are going through. It is trench warfare. They have drones
that are flying in at them and blowing people up.
(34:43):
Every day, They've got artillery rounds blowing up all around.
I mean, it's you've got guys that are storming trenches
and you know, machine gunning each other at close range.
Like it's horrible stuff that's happening day in and day
out over there. And bringing this to an end, it
would be such a win. And it's very frustrating, is
(35:05):
even the right word. It's grotesque when you see these
people that are saying, but Trump is just throwing in
the towel. What are these people think is going to happen?
You know, at some point it feels like the Slava
Ukrainian people really just feel like if they string this
thing out long enough, maybe we'll have American sent over
there to do the fighting for them, which is an
absolute red line for you, for me, and I know
(35:27):
for everybody listening. I mean, that's just completely beyond the pale.
We should not lose a single American life, a single
American finger fighting over who's in control of the eastern
portion of Ukraine. And in the meantime, there's nothing to
be gained in the long run for Ukraine continuing to
fight and lose its entire able bodied male population, when
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there's the possibility that you could still have a country
that is functioning, a country that has a homeland for
the Ukrainian people, and wouldn't be in the midst of
it a horrible and bloody war. Like I said, Clay,
it used to be that the Democrats were supposedly the
peace party. They were really the undermine America during time
of war party. That's actually more accurate, but they would
at least go through the motions of pretending that they
(36:13):
didn't want, you know, don't go after Saddam in the
first war, don't go after Saddam in the second ward.
Don't you know? They were the ones that were saying
we and maybe they're right about the second one, but
we shouldn't be fighting these wars, except when it comes
to wars like this where there's some humanitarian interest and
no real American interest at stake. So I think that
(36:33):
if Trump was able to pull this off, it's a
huge win all around. And again it brings us back
to yes, Trump out there negotiating to end wars and
stop bloodshed, just like Hitler would have done. I would
also point out, if we could get a ceasefire, the
price of gas would drop immediately in a significant fashion.
(37:00):
Trump sees that he knows all this stuff with Russia
has hurt us economically, probably in the West, more than
it's hurt Russia. Russia doesn't really care.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And even the opening backup of the Black Sea would
dramatically decrease prices for a variety of goods, including is am.
I correct that Ukraine is one of the largest wheat
producing countries in the world, and that you know, you know,
the amount of goods that the grain is used to
(37:29):
produce has also driven up the cost. And I've been
told that because of the shipping costs associated with the
dangers of the Black Sea. The other thing is Trump
has attacked the huties in the Red Sea area, right
that is also driven up the cost of goods being
shipped around the world. So while there is a great
(37:51):
focus on tariffs and what the impact of the cost
of goods could be for tariffs, I think in Trump's
internal calculation, he is seeing the ending of the wars
to the extent that we can keep them ended. And
I know they've reignited right now in the Middle East,
But if you could end the war in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
This summer. I think you would see a massive deflationary
movement on a variety of the price of goods, in
particular oil and gas. You know, there is there is
a historical mirror image here perhaps, or there's echoes of
when Reagan came into office. Vulkar had to tighten things,
(38:33):
tighten things at a level that way beyond what we've
seen so far in terms of how high rates had
to go. And yeah, I mean there was essentially a recession.
Reagan more or less inherited that recession, but you had
to you had to get the you know, you had
to clear the system out, you had to get things
under control, and there was a little bit of economic
(38:56):
pain that the country had to go through early on,
and then one years of boom and prosperity afterwards. Right, So,
if this is a Reagan moment for Trump on the economy,
and I think there are a lot of reasons to
believe that it could be and that it will be.
The historical analogy here is very favorable. But it might
(39:17):
take a year, eighteen months something like that for things
to really get cooking the way they would like them to.
You cannot fix a problem that others refuse to fix
and expect that there's not going to be some discomfort
along the way, because why wouldn't they fix it if
that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
This is, though, a very good sign. I think it's
hard to spin it as a bad sign. It'll be
interesting to see what the larger media ecosystem says about this. Remember,
Ukraine has effectively already agreed to a thirty day ceasefire,
and it sounds like Russia is willing to potentially get
(39:55):
involved as well.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Let's say, let's just go through a best case scenario
for those of us who are adults, and then I'll
tell you what the Libs will say and how they'll
play this. Right, Let's assume that this ceasefire goes forward,
and maybe it doesn't, and maybe, you know, maybe Trump
ends up having to drop the hammer on Putin with
a whole lot more economic warfare stuff, and that's all possible. Okay,
we don't know. We don't get ahead of ourselves here,
(40:18):
but if you're gonna wargain this out a little bit, uh,
Let's assume, Clay, that the ceasefire goes forward and it
is durable, and we go into at every phase of
the ceasefire. You know, you'll be hearing from Democrats Putin
got too much of what he wanted, and he could
break the ceasefire any moment. Putin got too much of
what he wanted, and he could break the ceasefire any
(40:40):
You're gonna hear that over and over for months and
months and months, so that by the time it's clear
that this conflict, if this happens, this conflict actually has
ceased to be the war, the meat grinder of humanity
that it has been. They're just hoping to play this
out so that nobody even realizes that Trump is well,
you know, if you extend this out and complain about
(41:02):
it the whole time, it denies him, at some level
the victory, the political victory at least to some that
he would be winning by ending this thing. You see
what I mean. They complain, They say, we don't know yet,
we don't know yet, and they keep doing that until
eventually when it's clear, oh no, Trump actually pulled off
something of a diplomatic miracle here, people will have moved
(41:23):
on to other things that I think that's how they
play it because they're never going to say, wow, he's
a brilliant statesman, and he saved thousands and thousands of
lives and had the economy boom because of it.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
It is a really good sign that they are talking.
I think again, we read you the read out on
the report. I am cautiously optimistic. I like to be
able to look at polymarket. It has now buck the
chances of a ceasefire by May one at sixty percent.
(41:55):
You know, you can go take either side on this
on this prediction market, right, It's kind of interesting to
look at, but that is a small favorite that we
may have a ceasefire in Ukraine by May one. The
other reason, the timing matters on this a lot buck,
and I do think it's worth, you know, reinforcing this
on a regular basis. Typically as it gets warm in Ukraine,
(42:18):
the armies are better able to move and the overall
fatality rates increase. It's still the midst of winter over
there right now, but moving the fighting scenes essentially the
same thing was true in Afghanistan when when the mountain
passes melt down and it's easier to you know, to
move around, you get more fighting and more shooting. So
hopefully if there is a ceasefire, they could get a
(42:39):
ceasefire in place by the time it starts to warm
up there, so that we can limit the overall amount
of death that might be occurring. And again to your point, yes,
very hilarian of Trump to try to end the largest
war in Europe since World War Two. It's exactly what
Hitler would have done if he had been in a
(43:01):
position of prominence in America. And obviously we're ridiculing the
absurdity of that.
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Speaker 1 (44:54):
Our friend Josh Hammer joins us now senior editor at
Large of Newsweek and host of The Josh Hammer Show.
He's got a new book released today. He's coming out
on the show to tell everybody about it. Israel and civilization,
the fate of the Jewish nation and the destiny of
the West. Already doing great numbers on Amazon. Go get
(45:16):
your copy today, mister Hammer. Great to have you with us, Sir.
I wanted to get your take first if I could,
before we dive into the book, which everyone should go
get a copy of. I know it's doing great so far,
the end of the ceasefire in Israel and the new
posture or the renewed posture perhaps toward Hamas. What do
you make of it?
Speaker 5 (45:38):
Well, but great to join you in Thanks for the
book support. Look to me, the ball is clearly in
Benjamin ninten Yaho's court, Buck, I mean, Donald Trump is
all in for US as relations. He's used the rhetoric
of give them hell to pay. He's made it very
clear that he and his cabinet are going to stand
shoulder to shoulder with the Israeli governments when it comes
to diplomacy, when it comes to the military, when it
(45:59):
comes to trying to eradicate the entirety of the Hamas
political and military cancer from the Gaza's trip. So for
some weeks now, Buck, I've been saying, the ball is
in Nityahu's court. I mean, Biebe has basically lived his
entire adult life for moments just like this. He has
led his entire adult life to wait for the opportunity
to go in and do what needs to be done,
(46:21):
so to speak, whether it's in Gaza, whether it's in
Lebanon and has Baalah he did that partially last summer actually,
or whether it's really the grand threat of all in
the region, which of course is the Islamus regime in Tehran.
So I'm not surprised that the ceasefire broke. Frankly, Hamas
only has itself to blame. I mean, with a medieval
Islamis death cult, they had any number of opportunities to
(46:42):
avoid this outcome. They completely brought this upon themselves, and frankly,
this is a necessary thing that has to happen or
if there to be any resolution whatsoever in the.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Region, congrats on the book. I know all the work
that goes into that. I hope you're having a good
time with it officially being out. What is the ultimate goal?
Do you think when it comes to Gaza? What should happen,
what's likely to happen, what does history suggest should happen.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
It looks like Donald Trump has a certain vision in mind.
I mean, he wants the United States to take over Gaza.
I will be I'll be honest with you. That was
not on my personal bingo card. I'm not sure that, frankly,
that it was on Bibi Netanyahu's bingo card. I mean,
you look at his facial expression at the joint press
conference when Donald Trump announced that to the world. It
was quite humorous to look at the way that Netanyahu
and the Israeli officials in the room reacted to that.
(47:32):
I'm open to being persuaded of that. That's not entirely
what my first guest would have been, But look, in
my heart of hearts, I would love to see the
Arabs there find a permanent home in Jordan or Egypt,
which seems to be Donald Trump's preferred approach, and for
Israel to go ahead and take it over. Realistically speaking,
I think the most likely way that this ultimately ends
is you get some sort of consortium of the more
(47:53):
moderate Sunni Arab states, the Saudi's and Moradis, Bahraini's, maybe
the Egyptians if they're willing to play ball, and they
kind of go in there jointly together and try to
make sure that Islamism and jihadism will not be the
way forward there. But that's going to entail some sort
of American Israeli or some sort of joint presence there
even with that, because frankly, even these guys, the more
(48:15):
moderate forces, I'm not sure just how much we can
trust them for the mintal long term Josh.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
For people who don't know, I was over in Israel
in December, the amount of Immen's popularity for Trump in
Israel is off the charts. In fact, Trump, if they
Israel had had a vote in the American presidential election,
would have won like he did in West Virginia or Wyoming.
What do you think Israelis believe when they see that
(48:41):
Trump is being attacked by Democrats here as Hitler.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Well, Clay, I'll tell you exactly what Israelis believed, because
I happened to be married to one, and I happen
to have in laws here in Florida where I live.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
Who are them?
Speaker 5 (48:54):
And I taught them every day. The Israeli people are
about the Trumpiest people in the basically the entire world.
I'm not sure if there's a single foreign country where
Trump has a higher approval rating than the state of
Israel for a very clear and compelling reason, which is
that Donald Trump is the most pro Israel. Frankly, he's
the most pro Jewish president in American history there. And
(49:16):
you know, this is something of an issue that I
think a lot of people here, even on the Rights
don't fully understand, is how can American Jews vote disproportionately
so much for the Democratic Party while Israeli Jews are
so supportive of the Republican person in this case, that
would be Donald Trump. I actually talked about that quite
a bit in the book Israel and Civilization, and it's
(49:36):
maybe a longer and more complicated conversation there. But the
Israeli people in general are emphatically pro Trump. They even
named the town after him. Clad there's literally a town
in the Goal On Heights called Trump Heights, Ramat Trump
would be the Hebrew word. I know it because I've
been there. I actually drove by, got out of the car,
took a selfie on the side of the road there
with the road sign ramat Trump.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
So they're all in.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
They're all in for President Trump there, and as they
should because Donal Trump is deeply supportive of the state
of Israel.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
All right, let's talk about the book Josh out today,
Israel and Civilization, The Fate of the Jewish Nation and
the Destiny of the West by Josh Hammer. What do
people need to know and why should they pick up
their copy?
Speaker 5 (50:15):
So, Buck, the book Israel and Civilization, both fortunately and unfortunately,
I think could not possibly be timelyer. I'm a little biased,
but I happen to think that that it is very timely.
On the one hand, Buck, you have the woke left,
which is obviously a horrific, cancerous actor. But there is
an increasing portion even of people on the nominal rights,
(50:36):
not a loud portion, but there are some people that
are really calling for the US to abandon Israel. And frankly,
I think deep down on these people's hearts, what they
really want to do is ultimately to convince American Christians
to just leave the Jewish shade and leave the Jewish
people behind. So I took upon myself to write this
book basically calling for Jews and Christians alike to lock
arms and stand shoulder to shoulder like never before, and
(50:58):
to fall in love with the biblical inheritance again, because
it actually is that ecumenical biblical inheritance that frankly founded
this country, going back in seventeen seventy six, Thomas Jefferson,
Benjamin Franklin, they wanted the National Seal of the United
States to be Moses partying in the Red Sea. Abraham Lincoln,
my own favorite figure in American history, described famously Americans
as an almost chosen people, using that covenantal language from
(51:21):
the Hebrew Bible. The Liberty Bell in Philadelphia literally has
a scriptural quote from the Book of Leviticus right on
the outside of it there. So the book is kind
of painstakingly arguing that's so much what we take for
granted today when it comes to our law, politics, morals, ethics,
and so forth, really does go back to Scripture and
that we cannot abandon that. But the book is also
relevant buff because I make a very clear maga America
(51:44):
first hard headed realist case for US Israel relations and
the importance of US Israel ties. You have a lot
of people that are screaming, oh, the Israel issue. Oh,
it's an old neo con neo conservative issue. It's an
old Bush administration, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld issue. Sorry, but
the answer is no, that's not what it is. Donald
Trump is not a neo conservetive. He is a foreign
policy realist, and he's the most pro Israel president in
(52:07):
American history. There if you want to focus disproportionately on China,
which I think America needs to do, because again I'm
a realist who believes in limited resources, the question is
how do you secure American interest in the Middle East
while allowing you to extra kate resources to the Indo Pacific.
And the obvious answer, which Trump and BB got to
in the Abrahamic Cords, is to empower and embolden our
(52:29):
allies in the region to secure that region in a
way there were downs to all of our interests. So
I think that this explicitly realist case for Us' relations
is very timely and very important. But it's all in
there Israel and civilization, the fate of the Jewish Nation
and the Destiny of the West Amazon, Barnes and Noble,
wherever you get your.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Books, Josha, when you look at the history and I
got your book and I was looking through it, and
I was fascinated because again, I just came back from Israel.
How optimistic are you about peace in the Middle East?
Because for thousands of years it hasn't happened. Are you
optimistic that in the lifetime of the people that are
listening to us right now, we could have some form
(53:07):
of peace in the Middle East?
Speaker 5 (53:09):
Yes, and no, I think that there that there is
such a thing as a as a more tranquil regions,
as a more peaceful region that is less prone to
violent eruptions of jihadism. Frankly, Clay, that's ultimately going to take.
It's going to have to take the Iranian regime to go,
because the Irani regime currently is is the head of
the sink. They are the source of virtually all of
(53:29):
the violent jihad that that goes across the Middle East. Now,
to be clear, I'm not saying that America needs to
go and start toppling the Ayatola. That's not my stance,
but somewhere, some way or another, whether it comes from
sanctions or the or the Mike Pompeo esque maximum pressure campaign,
that regime is going to have to go. So at
some point, God willing in a post Islamic republic Aroan
(53:50):
there where jihad is on the decline, then yes, I
think the Middle East could be a lot more stable
than it is today.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Has Blah, the.
Speaker 5 (53:57):
Hoofis Hamas, all these forces would be subdued, if not
made completely extinct without their major benefactor in Tehran. On
the other hand, you still do have the issue of Islam,
and there are very real questions I think are worth
asking and exploring as to the extent to which Islam
will ever itself, even any more moderate form, ever be
comfortable fully with a Jewish state there in the heart
(54:20):
of the Middle East. And I don't really fully know
the answer to that, but I do think that after
Iran goes and God willing going to be at some
points again, not that the US has to topple them,
but at some point that regime is going to have
to go at some point, Clay, after that, I think
things will definitely be better, if not fully solved.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Israel and civilization the Fate of the Jewish Nation and
the Destiny of the West. Josh Hammer is the author.
Go get your copy of the book today. Hammer time.
Great to have you, my friend. Thanks for being here, gentlemen,
my pleasure. Thank you so much. Many people will use
the word disruption to describe the beginning of twenty twenty five.
It's appropriate. We elected a president to disrupt the deep state,
(54:55):
to remove roadblocks and reduce the size of government. But
there are bound to be other disruptions well, and they
could hit the financial markets, the housing markets, the whole
range of things. So I invited somebody with great experience
covering the financial markets, somebody with a great track record
for predictions in this space, to talk to me in
a videotaped interview that we've posted online. While I might
have helped to organize the online video event, it was
(55:16):
my dad, Mason Sexton Senior, that made the predictions possible
about these disruptions ahead. This is my father's area of expertise,
the financial markets and how they affect everyday Americans. I
think you'll find it most beneficial. My dad has made
his living researching and predicting the stock market for decades,
and when he is right. He is writ in a
big way. Jewish credit. My dad created a name for
(55:37):
himself back in the day on Wall Street when he
called the crash of eighty seven in advance on television.
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