Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 28 2025 - The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I
believe it is day ninety nine of the Trump administration,
two point zero day one hundred. Tomorrow, we got some
special guests scheduled to come your way Tomorrow. Should be
a lot of fun as we break down all of that.
But there are a ton of stories out there that

(00:21):
I think you guys are going to enjoy. Buck's favorite
football player, Sequan also known as Saquon Barkley, hanging out
with Trump. There's some good quotes from that, and I
believe during the course of today's program, the Philadelphia Eagles,
of whom Saquon is a star player four, will be

(00:43):
visiting the White House to celebrate their Super Bowl championship.
We'll see if there's any fireworks that come out of that.
The White House one hundred different images of violent criminals
who have been arrested. Tom Homan and Caroline Levitt had
a conference already this morning in the White House to
start off Monday and hit the ground running. And over

(01:07):
the weekend was the White House Corresponden's Dinner. All of
the festivities where people in Washington pat each other on
the back over what an amazing situation that they have
created based on their coverage of the past year, and
I wanted to make sure that we covered the fact

(01:30):
that this show Buck when needs be a good, actual,
honest media analysis. We talked on this program about Biden's
clear mental and physical decline for years with this audience,
such that you and I were both attacked by the
people celebrating at the White House Correspondence Association for being

(01:52):
unfair and dishonest and being engaged in cheap fakery for
those comments and discussions.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Very beginning of when you and I teamed up together,
I think, coming up on four years ago this June,
we were talking about the Weekend at Bernie's, and in fact,
I believe you kept saying Weekend at Bernie's two. I
didn't even realize there was a sequel. For those who
don't know, that is a movie that is absurd from
the eighties but kind of a cult classic in its absurdity,

(02:21):
where a guy is dead and they carry the dead
body around to pretend he's alive and shenanigans ensue. So
how is it that you're saying Weekend at Bernie's two
starting in twenty twenty two, and they didn't figure this Outclay,
How is that possible?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Not only did they not figure at out, Buck, they
claim it was impossible for them to have known, even
though every single one of you out there listening four
years has heard on this program us playing a variety
of different clips which demonstrated quite clearly that Biden didn't
have the mental or physical cognition in order to do
the job of president of the United States. On June

(03:00):
twenty seventh, when Biden came out for that disastrous debate performance,
all arguments to the contrary ceased, and overnight everyone suddenly said,
oh wow, Biden can't be president, and they actually awarded
This is unbelievable. But I think it's important for all
of you to understand they didn't award. Have you ever

(03:21):
gotten an award for this? Buck? Has anybody ever said, hey, Buck,
you know you were so great for pointing out Biden
didn't have the mental or physical capability to be president.
Just making sure you have not received any award for that, right.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I just always assumed in this business, Clay, that we
would never get awards.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
That that's not a thing.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
If you are a right of center, you don't even
consider that there's an award you're going to get. I
have never gotten an award for anything in my entire
media career, but certainly not for honestly pointing out that
Biden did not have the capability to be president.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
The reason why I bring that up, Buck and I
somehow were missed, missed our award. They this is amazing.
The White House Correspondence Association decided to give an award
to a guy who started saying in twenty twenty three,
very minimally, hey, maybe Joe Biden isn't on top of
his game. And he showed up. This guy, Alex Thompson.

(04:18):
And Alex Thompson showed up and addressed the assembled press
and took applause for being a truth teller. Now again,
Fox News, for years, to be fair, has tons of
people on air who have been saying Biden isn't mentally
or physically able to be president. NBC News wrote an
entire article calling me a disinformation and misinformation expert for

(04:44):
saying Biden didn't have the physical or mental capability to
be president. Buck. In June of twenty twenty four, somebody
pulled that article up.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
You'd be a purveyor of disinformation though, right, like an
expert in disinformation would be the person lying about Joe
as part of the disinformation campaign. Right, They'd say, I'm
a disinformation expert and Clay is lying about it. This
is people, forget. One of the original great moments of
Trump Jitsu, if you will jiu jitsu via Trump, was

(05:15):
when they used fake news against Trump and he just
turned it around. He's like, you guys are fake news
and they had a total meltdown. The same thing has
happened with the disinformation experts Clay about Biden's mental acuity,
because they were doing exactly what they did to you.
They put people out there whose expertise was spotting intentional lies,

(05:35):
and they were intentionally lying about Biden's mental capacity.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
In their role as disinformation experts. I just found it buck.
June thirteenth, twenty twenty four, two weeks in advance of
Biden falling on his face NBC News, a post on
x from Clay Travis, a conservative talk radio host, said
Biden just goes wondering off and that other national leaders

(06:02):
are quote babysitting our president in Italy. His post received
one point one million million views. In a follow up
post Friday, Travis said he stood by his view Biden
is not mentally fit to be president. The rnc's and
Travis's post didn't have community notes, though they had been proposed.

(06:23):
This was June thirteenth, NBC News attacking me for saying
Biden didn't have the mental or physical capacity to be president.
All right, here is Alex Thompson taking his bow as
everyone cheers the fact that he minimally suggested that Biden
might not be able to be president. Here is I

(06:44):
believe it's cut one.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
We myself included, missed a lot of this story, and
some people trust us less because of it. We bear
some responsibility for faith in the media being.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
At such lows. I say this because.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Acknowledging errors builds trust, and being defensive about them further
erodes it.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
We should have done better.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I believe our mission is vital in a world where
people are struggling to figure out what's true, and people
with power are not telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
They are clay.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
They are systematically lying about lying about Biden's mental health. Now,
meaning this game of we missed it. We didn't do
the greatest job. Oh, we should have looked a little
more closely.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
That is not what happened.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
They knew, and they shut their mouths about it and
actually went to the active side of lying, and they
pretended like Joe Biden was fine.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
That's why Why.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Else would you know Joe Scarborough's making millions of dollars
a year to be a Jacke on television? Why else
would he go on TV and say months before the
debate that Biden is not sharp, not okay, the sharpest
version he has ever been in his life, in his
eighty years of life. This is the best Biden has
ever been. That is what one of their biggest hosts said.

(08:17):
You only say that when you have the marching orders
from the top and across the board that this is
the guy. Everybody shut up, everybody go along with this.
So you know they can't even be honest about their dishonesty.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Is really where we are.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
They all were in on it, and now they're trotting
out some kind of you know, low tease. You know,
soy drinking journals from inside the belt had gone, Oh
we didn't really live up to our journal, live up
to it.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
You were part of the con. You were one of
the absolute you know, accomplices in this. I think that's
important and I jotted down as that speech was being made,
as we were playing the audio for you, and I
watched it over the weekend. An error, that's what they

(09:06):
call this, an error, and we missed a lot of
the story. And error is unintentional. And I think you're
hammering on this, but it's very important. If you are
playing shortstop and you intend to fill the ground ball
and you have it go off your knee instead, or
it goes between your legs, it's assigned as an error,
but it's unintentional. We don't presume that on the baseball

(09:30):
field somebody is trying not to make an out. This
was intentional. It was not a miss. It was not
an error. These journalists in quotation marks were propagandists of
the party in power, and they refused to hold accountable
the party in power because overwhelmingly they agree with the

(09:53):
politics of the party in power. Now, Trump has an
adversarial relationship with the majority of the press. I actually
don't mind that, because if there was a consistent adversarial
relationship with the press, I would actually think that would
be somewhat encouraging, because the job of the press should
be to speak truth to power, regardless of who is

(10:15):
in power. When you are claiming that you're an unbiased journalist,
call balls and strikes. Sometimes it's a strike, sometimes it's
a ball. But the attempt now to rewrite history and
try and say, oh, it was just an error. We
missed a lot of the story. No, you actively lied
to cover up the truth. And I will say this,

(10:37):
he was right that the media basically destroyed themselves in
the process. And you know what also has happened, Buck,
there's a graphic out from Axios. Coverage of misinformation and
disinformation has almost vanished. Now. They basically have just acknowledged
that given COVID and now the Biden cover up, they
have no ability to do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
You have to also this this White House correspondence dinner,
this pseudo meya culpel, but not even really, you know,
it's really just, oh gosh, guys, we need to rally
and do a little better next time.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's like they were in the big game and they
lost by a touchdown. No, they were trying to pay
off all the refs and they got caught their scumbacks. Okay,
that's what happened. The people in that room who were
trying to pretend like, hm, we should have done better. No,
they were propagandas they were liars, and it didn't work.
But I think the context that must always be remembered
here is that this didn't just happen Clay. They because

(11:35):
of COVID, and because of the unholy alliance between the
left wing social media companies, the dominance still of the
Democrat A line, corporate media and Corporate America working all
together here, they got drunk with power. They managed to
do this in twenty twenty. The Hunter Biden laptop, which

(11:56):
came after all the lives about COVID, which came after
all the lies about the.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Well, COVID is part of this.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
But as I said, the Wuhan lab and the leak,
and and then all the stuff about Lockdown's Clay, they
basically got steps away from an authoritarian information control, authoritarian
information control that they could wield at will. And they
thought they they could do it one more time. They
thought they could pull it off again. They got caught
with their hand in a cookie jar. This wasn't a

(12:24):
close but no, this wasn't a close but no cigar
get you know, old school try kind of thing. This
was their liars their scum. They didn't manage to pull
it off. Thank you Trump for beating all this nonsense.
And now they want us to pretend like they have
any integrity or any honor. They don't and I won't.
And that's where we are. It's not gonna change.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Amen, and we will come back and continue to break
this down. Buck. I can't wait to hear his reaction
to his boy Sequan and their new found friendship between
Sequon obviously Saquon, because somebody's gonna correct me on pronunciation.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I mean, as I've said, oh, he's bet On Sequan,
and it was he playing golf with Trump, I would
say that he'd probably beat Trump, just because you always
got a bet On Sequan.

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Speaker 1 (14:24):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
Monday edition of the program we played for you, the
White House Press Corps saying, man, we missed a lot
of the story, there were errors. How could we have
ever managed to not correctly do the story? And Caroline
Levitt eight thirty am Eastern they had a press conference

(14:48):
credit to them right and early to set the agenda
of the week, and Caroline Levitt was asked about that
happening over the weekend, and this was her response.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Cut to with that assessment from Alex Thompson, who, I
understand want an award for writing a story months and
perhaps years after the American people already knew that story
to be true. Millions of Americans watched our mentally and
competent president struggle with his day to day duties of
this office. We watched our country be ran into the
ground as a result, and nobody in the media wanted

(15:20):
to write about that talk about it. There were many
many reporters, I will say right leaning reporters who did
talk about that, who didn't get awards, didn't get coverage.
In fact, they were land masted for their coverage. And
I remember being on President Trump's campaign talking about Joe
Biden's clear mental incompetence and being accused by people in
this room of manufacturing deep fake videos, trying to persuade

(15:42):
the public into not believing what they saw with their
own eyes for many years. And I think it's about
time the legacy media finally admits that was one of
the greatest cover ups and scandals that ever took place
in American history. And certainly it did contribute to the
decline and the trust that Americans have for the legacy media.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well said by Caroline Levitt bright And early this morning
when she was asked about the comments made by Alex Thompson. Now,
have we had Alex on the show? I think we
might have. I don't know, Ali, if he has the
book with Jake Tapper right, yes, but he's been, to
his credit as media outlet figures go, he's been fairer,

(16:24):
which is why they gave him the award than the
average one was. And if he had written the book
on Biden's deterioration, I would have said, Okay, I can
see at least he's been willing to write that on
some level. I wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I give zero credit, Lay, I give zero credit. I
think that this is we should not even fall into.
He's the least bad of horrible, horrible lying journals. That's
not a good thing still, right. I mean I hear
you in that he is he did it early enough
that there was some pushback. There could have been some
pushback from his side. Clay, you and I have been

(17:03):
making jokes about dragging a Bernie.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
You know, Weekend at Bernie's Weekend at Bernie's two is
a good test. When did we first reference or when
did I first reference the Weekend at Bernie's two. That
would be a good sense for when we've been hammering it.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Find out when I made a reference to El Sid,
which also the Charlton Heston movie which you will all recall.
There's a scene where Elle Sid the Spanish Uh you
know Rayconquista hero is like riding riding out on a
horse at the end when he's dead. I mean, these
are things we're talking about, how Biden. We're openly mocking this.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
With no fear of anyone saying, hey, he's actually really
smart and fine.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Like for years, yes, for years we're saying this, and
obviously if it weren't true, I never said this about Obama.
You never said this about Obama. This wasn't like something
we say, you know, they say every Republican is dumb,
every republic it's so childish, but that's what they do.
We don't say every Democrat has dementia.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
It was just this guy.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
In fact, I've never said Bernie Sanders, who's even older
than Biden. I think or maybe they're the same age,
they're close, whatever, I think he's older.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Is he older? But Bernie's eighty three, he's older than Biden.
He's older.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I've never said Bernie Sanders clearly has dementia. I've said
he's probably too old for the job, which I think
everyone knows. But it was, you know, he doesn't have
scrambled eggs moments.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
We've been saying this for years.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
How can you get credit for saying something that has
been obvious to everybody who is not a Democrat trying
to advance their partisan agenda the whole time? And you know,
I just I get so I feel like we give
no credit on this. I give no Okay, we have
to have maybe we should have them on. They can
try to argue their case, but I'm I am not snack.
Tapper gets no credit. That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
If Alex Thompson had written the book by himself. I
would say, okay, he at least back in twenty twenty
three did write a story saying Biden's mental and physical
and he got remember the Wall Street Journal wrote it
to and everybody lined up and said it's so untrue.
I think that was when the Joe Scarborough infamous this

(19:07):
is the best version of Biden there's ever been, which
I think ended his career, honestly, because I think even
for the the diehard MSNBC viewers. And then he begged
to go meet with Trump and he went down to
mar A Lago and kissed the ring. I mean, his
career I think is over.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Can I tell you my I never thought he's a
talented guy. By the way, I don't understand what the
appeal of the interest is other than a former Republican
who trash is Republicans all day for the amusement of
stupid Democrats. But I would say, Clay, as you look
at the way that this story unfolded, it was more

(19:45):
and more obvious all along, and yet there weren't more
and more Democrats coming forward to say it.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I mean, think about the this is like cult of
Mao or cult.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Of Stalin level obedience when you have something that we
would all have to agree is utterly reckless. I mean,
to have a commander in chief, to have the President
of the United States, the most powerful man in the world,
have a brain that does not function properly and.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Is obvious to everybody who is paying attention.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
To have been a part of that is a disgrace
that you can never come back from.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
And what I think is I would actually respect these
guys more if they came forward and they said, you
know what, sometimes you got to tell a lie in
order to, you know, support a bigger, better agenda. I
thought that Donald Trump was hitler and going to destroy
the country. So I lied to your faces about Biden's
dementia because I thought that was the lesser evil. Pretending

(20:41):
they were too stupid to notice is insulting to me,
and I reject it.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Would have they ever admitted remember when Biden would call
on them and he was given a list and he
would just go through the list. Have they ever explained
that in any way? I mean the White House Correspondence Association,
because they're supposedly hold speaking truth to power. And again,
I think the idea that Jake Tapper wrote a book

(21:10):
about the cover up is one of the craziest, most arrogant,
most dishonest things that we have ever seen someone on
television do, because he had a platform on CNN where
he could have clearly called into question Joe Biden's mental
and physical acuity, and he never did it, never did

(21:32):
it on the air until June twenty seventh happened and
the suddenly, oh my goodness, he's not very good.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
And do you know how we know he never did it.
If it had happened, it would have caused a stir.
We would have played exactly it would you would have
heard it on this show because we would have said, look,
we call balls and strikes. We've done it with Fetterman
with some of the Israel stuff, right, We said, look,
Fetterman still votes with Chuck Schumer on it.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Everything. Can't trust Fedterman.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
But when he says something smart, we're not gonna lie
to you and say he hasn't or you know, said
something that's honest and moral, We're gonna say, look, he
said something honest and moral. Anyone in the Democrat side
who had come forward and said, who was the reporter?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Was it Dasha Burns, it was, Yeah, that was the
one who, to her credit, NBC did the interview with Fetterman,
and everybody was furious at her for saying, yeah, he
couldn't basically do the job right, but that.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
But that just showed you the level of cult like
obedience demanded of people whose entire presentation of themselves is
speaking truth to power, and we won't they play. It's
like if you were at a hospital and the doctors
and nurses poisoned all the patients, like they completely violated

(22:51):
the core tenant supposedly of their profession and now they're
giving us a meek.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
You know, we could have done a better job. No, oh, no,
they did the job.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
It's just like I said Clay about the fifty one
intelligence officers. Everyone says, oh, but you know they got
it wrong. They didn't get it wrong. The job was
to lie, and they knew the job was to lie,
and the job worked because Biden got the pass on
the you know, on the Hunter Biden laptop, in part
with all the help from the social media because of it. Right,

(23:25):
when your job is to lie and you do it,
you don't then get to turn around and say, oh,
I just made a good faith a good faith error, right.
I mean, it's like I said about sports stuff. If
you've paid off the refs and you got caught, don't
tell me that you did your best. Okay, that's not
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
An error is unintentional, and I think to your point,
all of this was directly intentional. When does the book
come out from Tapper? I'll find out, Guys, do you
I'm gonna put this to you. I'm gonna put this
to you because I don't like, generally, I don't like
to use the term platform. I don't like platforming democrats

(24:05):
who I think are just gonna come on here and
be deeply dishonest. So I'm i I'm open to the
Alex guy because he did and Clay Clay's a little
I'm even more, you know, just the whole White House Correspondent,
the whole thing like just sets me off. These people
are all such frauds.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Clay's a little more willing to tolerate or or I
should say, to give some credit to Alex.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
My standard is so low that if you are something
other than a crazy left wing propagandist, I will give
you credit for being anything a little bit to towards
the center from left wing propagandist like Joe Scarborough is
the worst. And then I think we should have Jake
Tapper on because I don't think he can defend him.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
This is a this is amazing by the way, we're
gonna play this. We're gonna play this for him. Okay,
we're gonna play this. We're gonna have I think we're
gonna have you guys call in emailing. Are you okay
with us having on these people that are supposed to
represent this new book that that's gonna tell us about
how they missed this. They're gonna tell that. You know,
I want to hear from you, really give us a
sense if you want them to come on. I've already

(25:07):
told Clay there are you know, look, it's radio. If
you invite someone into your house, you have to maintain
decorum and be respectful. But I'm not going to have
them on and then say, you know, you guys, congrats
on the you're really you know, speaking, No, I'm gonna
say I think your frauds. Explain to me why you're not.
I'm just gonna be very transparent and straightforward about that
because I do and again more so on the Tapper

(25:29):
side than on the other one. But Clay to our
point about this, because I remembered this. I remembered it
so much that I actually went to see like I
think I watched the trailer Weekend at Bernie's two, and
I was like, can I sit through this? Wee get
at Bernie. It's not a good movie, just to tell
you guys, it's not. It's a funny premise for five
minutes and then it's just preposterous. In August of twenty

(25:52):
twenty one, Okay, we had been on the air together
two months. The quote here we should we should pull this,
pull the audio on this. But Buck, that's me.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Who do you think the most powerful person is? We
talk about this a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Clay refers to this as the Weekend at Bernie's presidency. Clay, Yes, Buck,
I've called it that and many others. It's obviously a
trojan horse presidency for the last which is I think
playing out in a way that we anticipated. Clay, that's
in twenty twenty one, we're saying it's a presidency where
they're carrying around a dead body pretending it's alive. Obviously metaphorical.

(26:28):
But the point is who didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
A lot of people on the left because there were
people like Jake Tapper who refused to speak the truth.
And I think we should have him on because I
think he should have to explain to all of you
why suddenly he can write a book about Biden's decrepitude
but he never talked about it on his show during
the entire Biden presidency until June twenty seventh. Happened when

(26:56):
everybody suddenly had the ability to acknowledge what all of
a could see with our plaint eyes.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, I'm familiar with some of Tapper's work. I
was at CNN.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
I will I will keep this out of the personal level.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'll keep this away from the personal to purely the
sort of professional presentation of someone's of their work. His
whole thing is he's a guy who will even though
he's a Democrat, which he will argue and say he's not,
and all of you and we will laugh, but he
will say he's not. He will say that he's an
independent journalist, trust me, he's a Democrat, but that he occasionally, occasionally,

(27:30):
you know, five percent of the time, will break with
his own side on something so that he has more
gravitas to push the other stuff for the Democrats. Right,
that's the whole game. This is the annihilation of that
as a brand for anyone. If you went along with
the Biden hoax, you're done. Okay, you're done. Nobody should
believe anything that you say, which is why I think
there's this effort to rehabilitate. This book comes out next month.

(27:52):
If you and the audience are okay with it, we
will have them on and it will be and I
will let them know beforehand. Ali, we don't do what
they do with places like end be like. Look, the
guys are very skeptical. They think they are frauds, and
they're willing to hear you out on this. I shouldn't
say they because Alex Clay Clay points out that guy
did try. I don't think he tried very hard, but
he wrote one story in four years and he did

(28:13):
get some heat for it, and it was a real story. Okay,
But Tapper, coming on here, we're gonna have to address
this in a very straightforward way, and we'll tell them
ahead of time too. Tell us the days where you
were talking about Biden's dementia. We'll pull those clips and
have them ready because I don't want someone coming on
this show and saying I talked about this a lot.
I was, you know, in this vague Oh I was.
I was, you know, just following the fact. So uh yeah,

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Speaker 2 (30:01):
Weeknight, let's talk about what's going on right now with
the administration and the agenda of securing our borders, enforcing
our immigration laws, and making America safe again. You will
see that over the weekend there were a number of
stories that deal specifically immigration. One Clay mentioned, which is

(30:23):
that the White House has put up posters of criminal
illegal alien which are set up on the White House
lawn with big photos so in the background of the
hits that reporters do at the White House, they will
see some of these posters Clay, which is one way
I think of helping to get the message across that

(30:46):
the administration is taking this quite seriously. The administration has
no intentions of backing off of this policy and is
really just in the opening phases of it. Here's White
House Press Secretary at Caroline let This has cut three
who are saying exactly that this is just the beginning
of what they have planned play.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
We are in the beginning stages of carrying out the
largest deportation campaign in American history. Over this past weekend,
it was announced that through Operation Title Wave, a joint
effort between ICE, Miami and Florida law enforcement agencies, nearly
eight hundred illegal aliens were arrested during the first four
days alone. Operation Title Wave is a preview as what

(31:28):
is to come around this country, large scale operations that
employ our state and local enforcement partners to get criminal
illegal aliens off our streets. As always, President Chump and
our entire administration are grateful for the courageous law enforcement
officers who are putting their lives on the line every
single day to protect their fellow Americans and to keep
our countries safe.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Clay, this is, as she said, just the early stages
of this. There's going to be a whole lot more.
I'll talk in a moment here. We can get into
the storyline and that they put to Marco or Rubio
on the Sunday Shows that you're deported like a five
year old with cancer, and we'll discuss the response to that. Actually,

(32:09):
they deported a woman, a mother who's not supposed to
be here, and they let her take her child with her,
which is what is the alternative to that?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Or the alternative is you're.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Going to deport the mother and the child is going
to stay in America, then we'd be accused of like
federal government kidnapping or something. But we can get back
into that here in a moment. First off, I thought
this was a really important observation. I know you just
talked to Tom Holm and Clay last week you had
an interview with him in DC. This is a guy

(32:43):
who understands the moment and knows what is necessary here
for the country to move forward and for the right
things to happen on immigration. And he's been doing this
a really long time, which gives him the perspective of
somebody who can without question that this is meaning. What

(33:03):
Biden did was the biggest betrayal of the American people
and our sovereignty on the immigration issue ever ever, certainly
in his lifetime, and I think you would have to
argue that we have ever seen this has cut six.
He says, he worked for six presidents, and what Biden
did unpresidented play it.

Speaker 8 (33:23):
I worked for six presidents, starting Ronald Reagan. Every president
ever worked for it. Took border security seriously, because you
can't have national security if you don't have strong border security.
Even President Obama and President Clinton took some steps to
secure the border because they understood national security. It was important.
Joe Biden was the first president in the history of
this nation who came in office and unsecured a border

(33:45):
on purpose. That's just a fact. We handed the Biden
administration after President Trump's first administration. We handed Biden administration
the most secure border in my lifetime, and he unsecured
it on purpose.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Just like the Biden cover up. It wasn't a mistake,
it was a decision.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I would like to know who made the decision, because
this is why I think Biden's decrepitude matters, because ultimately,
all you're doing when you elect a president is saying,
I trust this person to make some of the most
difficult judgment calls in the world. This person is who

(34:27):
I want sitting there when. And you know this, Buck,
because you've made these arguments in the Oval Office when
you were still working with the CIA, where you have
two really smart guys or gals sitting across from you,
arguing two different perspectives, and ultimately you have to make
the call as to which one of them has the

(34:47):
better argument, who has the best judgment Who actually made
these choices inside of the Biden White House? And I
would like that to be known because I would like
for that person to answer for opening the border wide
open like this. For instance, Buck, do you think they
just miscalculated and didn't realize how many illegals were going

(35:11):
to come across because they suddenly panicked obviously in an
election year, but by that point there had already been
ten million illegals come across the border. What was their
ultimate aim and how did they think it was going
to play out? Because even by standards of Blacks border security,

(35:32):
they took it to a level we had never seen before,
and unfortunately all of us are going to be paying
the price for that failure for years and years to come.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I think that their plan was the one to two
punch of the flood the zone, flood America with as
many illegals as fast as you possibly can, so that
the weight of the issue then becomes unavoidable, and there's
a narrative of we have no choice but in the
second Democrat term, which they were expecting for Biden and

(36:04):
I guess maybe even for kam Law, but they thought
they would get because of the problem or remember now
it seems crazy, they brought criminal four different criminal cases
against Donald Trump. They thought they had him finished off
by making him the first criminal president in history. Right,
This was the whole plan. So they assumed, I think Clay,
they would have had four more years and then that

(36:25):
Democrat president would have even via executive means if necessary,
you know, finding some way to give them the document,
you know, whatever it is that they had to do
to effectuate a mass amnesty. I truly believe that that
was the plan because Tom Homan, I've never heard Tom
Holman say something that wasn't straight on the money on

(36:47):
this issue. And when he says, I worked for six presidents.
Biden's team did this intentionally.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
It's gospel.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
They did this on purpose, and the only way they
would do it on purpose is the But they had
a plan beyond just letting them in, which was to
make them stay forever and create a permanent Democrat majority
in the process, people dependent on the state, people who
are going to view the Democrat Party as their saviors,

(37:14):
as you know, bringing them into the country. And that
was the game. And Donald Trump has saved the country
from this. But it is a reprieve. It is not salvation.
It is four years to figure out what to do
about it. Right, It's not like the issue is gone.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
And the problem that we have And this is what
I talked about with Tom Homan and this is I
think the biggest story structurally associated with the border. Our
laws allowed Biden to let in ten million illegals and
there was virtually no stopping it. Now those ten million
illegals are here. Tom Homan Buck said that he thinks

(37:49):
the number of illegals in the country is roughly twenty million.
How do you get those people out? Because right now
the laws that we have to put in play that
would allow us to deport those people are incredibly time consuming,
and so the best possible case scenario is you can
deport about three hundred and fifty thousand people a year

(38:13):
right now under the pace with which we are deporting people.
If that's true, If that's the number, it would take
thirty years roughly to get all of the illegals that
Biden let in out of the country. And that's assuming
that we keep the same protocols in place. This is
why we have to change the way that we deport

(38:35):
and this is why I think there was a cold
calculus behind the Democrat decision. It was once they get
in here, it's almost impossible for them to get them out.
And that's a problem because we have a different standard
for illegals getting in than we have for getting the
illegals out. And that disconnect means Democrats are playing the

(38:57):
long game. They feel like those people are never going
to leave and we're never going to be able to
force them out.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I mean, look at what this judge did in Milwaukee,
which got a lot of attention and we talked about
it on Friday, violating the law as a judge and
thwarting the efforts of immigration enforcement officers, because you're so convinced,
as somebody who's supposed to be not just knowledgeable in
the law, but administering justice through the law day in

(39:24):
and day out, that this country has no right to
have the immigration laws that it does, and that you should,
as a judge, supersede those laws. Somehow there's a greater
moral authority. I mean, this judge, this woman in judicial robes,
you get the sense she thinks she's operating in some
higher moral plane. You know, like like this is going

(39:46):
going back in our country's history, and she's somebody who's
you know, operating the underground railroad or something and letting
people get to freedom. You say to yourself, hold on
a second, is that really what you do? You think
that our immigration laws are deeply immoral? Because if Democrats
really think that the same way that obviously slavery was
deeply immoral, they should make that case openly. The problem

(40:09):
is if they made that case openly play, then they'd
be telling everybody in this country, America has a claim
to your labor, to your money, to your life. Perhaps
even if you are called into service if this country
were attacked as an American, but anybody can come here
whenever they want and stay as long as they want,
and they can live by a separate set of rules

(40:29):
as long as they didn't start out as an American.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
That's a just regime. That's fair.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
You're talking about the dissolution of the country over a
not too long a timeline.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
And the question is the only thing that makes sense?
Remember when you weren't even allowed to say this. I
think they tried to. The only thing that makes sense
is they think these people are going to become citizens,
and if they become citizens, they're going to vote Democrat.
That's the only argument for why this is occurring. That
they are playing the long range generational game of these

(41:03):
illegal immigrants are going to come into the country and
they are going to give us political power also, And
this is something else I would encourage the Trump administration
to do. I know we have the birthright citizenship case. Buck,
what's your take on this, because I think it's the
other aspect of this that's really important that doesn't get
discussed enough. For purposes of the census for the House

(41:24):
of Representatives, they count illegal immigrants as part of the
overall seven hundred thousand ish people that each Congressman represents.
By doing so, Democrats are stealing about ten House seats
because even though these theoretical illegal immigrants can't vote, they

(41:48):
count for purposes of census apportionment. And so if you
are a sanctuary city and you have two hundred thousand
illegal immigrants in your in your district, you have five
hundred thousand legal citizens, based on my understanding of how
the law is being applied right now, two hundred thousand
non citizens. But they would still combine for a district

(42:10):
of seven hundred thousand, And that's a in a basically
roughly even house, that's a benefit of about ten seats
in the House. California, in our youth even was a
pretty reliably read Republican stronghold of all the best things
about America, and the Democrats let the place get completely

(42:31):
flooded with illegals. They flipped it to a forever Democrat supermajority,
and now still a beautiful state. We love our California listeners,
thank you for maintaining sanity behind enemy lines. It is
run by progressive lunatics, and now they're losing hundreds of
thousands of people a year or over a course of
years because they can't stand to be there anymore. It's

(42:53):
just the microcosm of what they want to do to America.
Same thing, flood zone.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
With illegals, people who are going to need state resources
and help. They're going to make sure that the Democrats
day in power forever and then and then it's you know,
the whole country gets run like California from the federal level.
That's the whole plan, right, I mean, I don't think
it's more complicated than that. They want to use the
California model for America. I think that's totally true. I
think that's a good analogy. We'll take some of your calls,

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Speaker 2 (45:13):
Just an update on this. I talked to you about
this last week. India and Pakistan could go to war
any minute. That could happen. It would probably be an
encoursion in part of you know, in a.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Limited battlefield space. But these are.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Two countries with considerable militaries that hate each other and
have nuclear weapons, and they've been gearing up for this
kind of a fight for a long time. So just
something worth noting. India has cut off water from the
Indus River to Pakistan, which is necessary for all of
its irrigation for agriculture, which is a huge part of

(45:53):
the economy, and Pakistan needs to feed itself. But Pakistan,
according to India, was behind this terrorist attack in Kashmir
that killed dozens of people. I think it was twenty
six people killed and they've had enough. So yeah, it
is things are escalating over there. We will continue to
keep an.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Eye on that.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I was thinking about it also because Marco Rubio over
the weekend was on the Sunday shows, and I think
you know Rubio, you got to get this guy a
lot of credit. He had a tough campaign against Trump
in twenty sixteen, and now he has become really one
of the in the early days here one of the
indispensable members of this Trump cabinet and has not missed

(46:36):
a step. From what I can see, is one of
the He got a one hundred or ninety nine. Maybe
there was somebody who's gone that day, but basically everybody
in the Senate voter for his confirmation, even as Democrat colleagues.
And you don't hear any you don't hear any blunders. Really,
you don't hear any criticism of Marco from anybody who
knows anything. You only hear people talking about how this

(46:58):
is a role that he has. Really he's really kind
of grown into the role I feel like or in
risen to this occasion as Secretary of State and doing
a very strong job. Let's get into some of what
they tried to go at him with here, Clay over
the weekend. First off, I mentioned this in the first hour,
but they are these stories about deportations of people who
have children and the children go with them, and guess

(47:20):
what the media says, We're deporting children, right, this is
how and Clay, this is what we thought all along.
You know, the MS thirteen gang member thing is a
tougher that's a tougher field to plow, right, that's a
tougher situation here.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
But the kids abuell you know, whoever it is.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
You know, that's where you start to say, Okay, they're
pulling on people's heartstrings here. Yes, I think this is
where they miscalculated, Buck, because they should have waited till
a story like this as opposed to trying to make
a Breio Garcia the face of everything wrong with Trump's deportation.
Now they pivoted, I think because they're recognizing, hey, maybe
a wife beating, human trafficking, illegal gang member allegedly. We

(48:03):
know he's illegal, but all those other things there's ample
evidence of as well, was not the guy we should
have made the focal point of our entire opposition to
the immigration policy. So they now, I think Buck are
trying to pivot because they're recognizing that that was a
flawed strategy. Yes, here is Ruby though, talking about what
really happened, and he's straight up saying media is no surprise,

(48:26):
media is lying to you about the deportation of children
play twenty four.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
That's a misleading headline. Okay, three US citizens ages four,
seven and two were not deported. Their mothers, who are
legally in this country, were deported. The children went with
their mothers. Those children are US citizens, they can come
back into the United States. So there's their father or
someone here who wants to assume them. But ultimately who
was deported was their mother. Who's their mothers who were
here illegally. The children just went with their mothers. But

(48:53):
they wasn't like you guys make it sound like ice
agents kick down the door and grabbed the two year
old and threw them on an airplane. That's misleading. It's
just not true.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
And that's the point, right, they were misleading on purpose.
They're deporting US citizen children. Well, the alternative would be
sending the mom out of the country, and then the
story would be they're separating families. They're taking small children
and not letting them ever see their mothers again, because
you know, okay, so do we want family, you know,

(49:25):
family staying together or not.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
This is also the challenge with birthright citizenship at some level,
and this is why it has to be addressed, and
this is why I said, I would layer on top
of it the fact that the birthright citizenship has to
be addressed with larger questions about American immigration policy. But

(49:49):
why in the world are we allowing people who commit
crimes to be here illegally to then be able to
have children that become American citizens. Most of the universe
buck You don't get to commit one crime and then
layer it with a benefit. And this would be an analogy. Right,

(50:12):
you don't get to and this is serious, right, But
if you commit a crime and someone dies, right, you
don't get to then get the life insurance policy. Right,
if they can prove that you committed a crime in
order to get the benefit, you lose your ability to
the benefit. Why would we allow This is very logical

(50:34):
to me, and much of the law would agree with me.
You don't get the benefit of a crime. But in
the case of illegal immigrants coming here, they do get
the benefit of the crime, which is they're here they
shouldn't be here, and then they have a child and
so their illegal act has led to a benefit being

(50:55):
conveyed to them. Why in the world is that remotely legal?
And so again, I know the Supreme Court's going to
hear it. I think there are many complicating aspects of
birthright citizenship, but ultimately we're talking about deportations now. The
big challenge is Republicans who want to deport are not
going to be in power for the next thirty years.

(51:18):
I'd love for that to be the case. Not going
to happen. There will be Democrats, and when those Democrats
come in Buck, I think there's a very strong likelihood that,
like Biden, they just open the border wide open again
and ten million more illegals come in and the Darien
Gap is flooded again. And this is the reality. And
a lot of people in Latin America and around the
world know. They'll wait, we saw it happen when the

(51:39):
guy come in with the Biden T shirt on. Remember,
as soon as he won, Biden wants us to come.
They understand incentive structure jobs are a tough incentive to
eliminate because it's a sign of how good and vibrant
our economy is. But birthright citizenship it shouldn't exist. We
really have to have a more honest conversation about this
because you're encouraging people to commit by giving them a

(52:01):
benefit as a result of committing that crime.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I think it's very important to remember all of the
things that come along with the mass of illegal entry
into the country. We were talking about, Yes, sovereignty, Yes,
the social and political fabric of our country being stretched
to the breaking point by people arriving who have all
of the same claims to this country according to Democrats,

(52:24):
as those who are here and those who have built
the country, and those who are actual Americans. But beyond that,
all you have to do is go talk to anybody
in border patrol. They'll tell you because of the overwhelming
numbers at the border, they couldn't even begin to put
a dent in the fentanyl importation, you know, illegal fentanyl
trade into the country, which is killing large numbers of Americans.

(52:46):
And remember, for the fentanyl that that causes overdoses is
also causing addiction, which is destroying families and job loss
and causing crime from addicts wanted to go out and
feed the habit and destroying neighborhoods because of the consolidation
of the attics in certain areas of cities. I mean,
you know, it's all of this that happens, and the

(53:06):
border plays directly into all of it. Right there are
people who are oding, There are criminals who are stealing.
There are these things that are happening in Chicago because
of our wide open border in El Paso and McCallen
and you know, not anymore but under Biden. Right, So
there's all of this stuff that happens because of the decision.

(53:30):
As we've been talking about, the decision that Biden made
was a decision to bring all these secondary second order effects, right,
these other things that come forward that are really bad,
and people need to understand it's really bad for the
American people. And this is why what Trump is doing.
There's so much that comes from this. It's almost like

(53:51):
broken windows policing in a city to so all of
a sudden, the businesses come back. And I live this
in New York City, right, broken windows policing, the Giuliani miracle.
All of a sudden, you know, women are jogging at
night and they feel safe, and new businesses are opening,
and real estate development happens. When you don't have a
wide open border, all of a sudden, there's more resources
to go after the cartels, not as many overdoses, not

(54:14):
as much organized drug crime in cities, and so on
and so forth. There's so much that comes from this.
I would also I think this is important. I bet
you get these emails, in these comments and these reach
outs to on this front. There's a different way of
defining deportation because every time I say, hey, three hundred

(54:34):
and fifty thousand, that's roughly the pace.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I hope we can increase it. But obviously that's a
penprick of the ten million illegals that came in. People
will send me links and they'll say, oh, that's not true.
So and so deported this number a lot of times historically,
meaning in the last twenty five or thirty years, the
way deportation has been counted is people being rejected at
the border. That is different than people who have inter

(55:00):
the country and are then sent out. A lot of
times when they say, oh, Obama was deporter in chief,
according to what I've been told, that's because there were
people being rejected trying to enter the country, which was
counted as a deportation. What we're talking about is there
are twenty million illegals physically in our country right now.

(55:23):
That's according to Tom Homan, roughly twenty million, over ten
million of those came in during the four years that
Biden was here. In order to get those twenty million out,
you have to physically get them here. There's two ways,
right they could leave voluntarily, which hopefully maybe some are
starting to do, although Tom Holman told me the numbers
reflect maybe around five thousand that they know of deciding

(55:44):
to go back. Otherwise, you have to get these people,
gather them and take them out of the country, which
is very time consuming, which is very costly, and right
now we're on a pace to do about three hundred
and fifty thousand of those a year. You do the math,
and even if you did three hundred and fifty thousand
of those for a year long into the future, you're

(56:06):
talking about needing thirty years in order. And that's assuming
no new illegals are coming in. You're talking about thirty
years to get those people out of the country. Democrats
know that that is highly unlikely because again, if they
win elections, they're going to add in millions more. That's
what they have put the roadblock in. That's why they're
doing it.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
So I remember doing shows on this clay a decade ago,
and it was so dishonest what they were doing at
the time. But what you mentioned is absolutely true, which
is that while they were saying this is around twenty fourteen,
so Obama's turning. You know, this is when they were
trying to get the amnesty bill through, They're saying, Obama
is the deporter in chief. Look at these deportation numbers.

(56:45):
He takes the border seriously. The whole thing was a ruse.
It was a fraud. And what they did was they
changed the official statistic. Instead of what had been just
termed catch and release and not counted in the figures,
which is, you get caught on the border, they put
you on a bus, and you're back across the border,

(57:06):
end of story. Anybody that fell into that category was
now considered a quote deportation. Meanwhile, this is the other
part of it. I know you articulated this. The actual
number of people who were in the American interior, not
at the border, who were being deported year in and
year out under the Obama administration up to twenty fourteen

(57:26):
when they were trying to do this cratered down fifty percent,
give or take. So they just decided to stop enforcing
immigration law in America and change the way that they
counted the day to day border patrol operations at the
border to make it seem like they were doing a
job that they weren't actually doing it all classic Obama,

(57:48):
that was the whole move. And you know, sir, people
figure that out. Though, I will say Republicans at that
time lit up the congressional switchboards and people realized that
the amnesty bill was a total disaster, in part because
when this swindle came out, everyone goes, oh, so you're
just lying to us, You're just and all we're going
to get is amnesty. No, no enforcement's going to really happen,

(58:09):
which was true.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
And again this is where I would say Congress does
need to act because we at least need to try
to put in place opportunities to stop the next Democrat
president from coming in and doing exactly what Joe Biden did,
which was just get his pen out, reverse every policy
that was in place with Trump, and wide open the borders.

(58:32):
We need to try and stop that from becoming a possibility.
If who knows, AOC is suddenly god forbid elected president
and then gets stakes the oath of office in twenty
twenty nine, do you think she wouldn't just wide open
the border as soon as she got there. Of course,
she would.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
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(59:09):
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