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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Monday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off now Senco Cinco de Mayo edition. I don't
speak Spanish very well, sorry, Cinco de Mayo and play
we could all take a moment to commemorate the victory
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over the Second French Empire at the Battle of Puebla
in eighteen sixty two. I remember it like it was yesterday.
So this really has just become a holiday that Americans
have appropriated so that we can have an excuse to
drink a lot of servesa and margarito's. Because Mexicans don't
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care about this holiday very much, this has become an
American thing. We love Cinco de Mayo for the excuse
that it gives us to eat delicious food. Maybe where
some festive attire sombreros. I want as many people to
culturally appropriate as possible. I want you to post comfortably
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on your social media accounts if you have a sombrero hat,
if you potentially have a Mexican mustache that you would
like to pose with as well. We would like to
honor all of our good friends in Mexico with the
best thing that America does, which is take the best
things from the world and make them better. Do you
agree with my somewhat controversial tweet that just came to
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me this morning that Burrito's somewhat overrated, but Taqito's, which
is a deep fried taco, underrated.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So it does not surprise me that you would even
have elite and high end Mexican food taste, which the burrito.
I know, because the advertisements run all the time with
Eva Longoria's podcast advertisement, I understand where the burrito came from.
I actually am a casadella fan. I think the casadilla
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is the peak Mexican dish.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I know some of you are going to argue fijidas, well,
a lot of work and it's always you know, like sizzling,
and then you have to move things around and a complicated.
I like the casadia everything rolled together. And I'll even
specify used to be a chicken casadia guy, now all
in on shrimp cas ideas, which probably is a little
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bit healthier.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You know, I'm just gonna say I would usually like
to make fun of your taste by saying, of course
you like the Mexican version of the grilled cheese. However,
when it comes to fijidas. I've had bad fijidas I have.
Sometimes a steak is too chewy, sometimes the chicken is
way too dry. I've never had a bad casadia.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I will just say it's.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Hard to screw casandias are up there with like cheeseburgers,
chicken fingers, pizza.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
If you screw it up.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And I mean this is why kids like a lot
of times kids go with the cheesecasadia because they don't
want anything else on it, and it basically is even
closer to a grilled cheese. Then it's just really hard
to screw up a casadia if you've got to make
a choice. Now, just saying for everybody, sinko to my
enjoy however you celebrate, and we could get into some
of the discussion about cultural appropriation later. First of all,
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it's an idiotic term.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Second of all, I think that that as a notion
is rapidly fading away. And I have to say, I
wonder if we're even going to see the controversy this
fall over children wearing like a Pocahontas Halloween costume. Is
this stuff finally going to go back to normalcy where
people don't act over overreact and become hyper sensitive. Anyway,
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discussions for later in the show or perhaps another day.
Let's give you what we got on the news here,
because I know that's the first and foremost reason why
you come and hang with us. That and Clay's culinary
takes sit down with Trump, where he covered a lot
of ground on Meet the Press, talks about the border,
talks about the Trump third term. We are going to
dive into that. Trump also with some scorching truths which
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I always think of as tweets, but truth social postings
over the weekend, one on Judges, and he's almost verbatim
Clay copying what we've said so many times in the show,
which is, if Democrats can kick the border wide open
and we can't deport anybody in any meaningful numbers, including
people that have been here for.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
A year, two years, you know, three years.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
If we can't do that, the country is essentially over
because the Democrats are just going to flood the country
to the point where there's no longer sovereignty and the
rule of law has just become a joke. Well, we'll
get into that a lot of attention, and we will
spend some time on Trump's truth about reopening Alcatraz as
a prison. It's already open, Clay, You've been right.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So I was just there like a month ago, remember,
because that's when I watched the great film The Rock
with my junior in high school. We were out in
San Francisco. We toured Alcatraz. We'll get into the Rock
in a little bit, but yet, I know my friend.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Dave Brutherford Ago Dave Rutherford, who is a former Navy Seal,
has sent us a talkback about this little controversy in
that movie because the Seals just get wiped out by
the Marines. I'm sure the Marines all laugh about this
one and they're like, hah, look at the Seals. But
the Seals did not have a good showing in The Rock,
which is the most absurd movie any of us I
think have ever.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I loved it, though I'm entertaining I'm not going in
with a historical accuracy or the analysis of the gun battles,
which I'm sure the Seals are not happy about. I
think the idea of a group of Navy Seals deciding
to take over chemical weapons sorry if you spoiler alert here,
deciding to steal chemical weapons and takeover and island.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
The Marines for steal it. The Seals try to take
the island back. So the Seals are the good guys
in this movie. The Marines lay Clay. Sorry, sorry, my bad.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
They got the Seals get wiped out, yeah by the
marine fast spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, because we're used to this.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Usually when the Seals appear in the movie, it's like
the cavalry arrives. You're not used to the Seals getting
all wiped out without taking out a single bad guy.
So that's the one part of The Rock Man. So anyway,
Dave is a former Seal, he'll weigh in. We'll have
some fun on that.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I do it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
By the way, this is not a Grumpy Buck moment.
I do think The rock is a great watch. It
is just absolutely preposterous top to bottom and is kind
of a stealth James Bond movie too because of the
Sean Connery thing.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
But we shall discuss that.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
We got a lot more to dive into when we've
your talkbacks and emails from over the weekend. But let's
let's get into the Trump situation here. Let's get into
what happened in this interview with First of all, this
is we have to keep reminding everybody because if nothing
else happened Clay in the first year of a Trump presidency,
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then completely securing the border to the point where everyone
has to agree it's secured, you would think, Wow, that's
a really that's a really big win for the administration.
The only issue that I have with this, or the
only problem I can foresee, is that he secured the
border so quickly that it's now turned into Okay, what's next. Which, yes,
that's a high class problem, you could say, But it's
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amazing what they've been able to do, and evens and
Welker has to admit this. This is cut one about
border crossings.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Play this border crossings are at their lowest level ever recorded.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Is the border?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Is the border now secure?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
It's really secure? Because when you say that, doesn't that
just sound good? After being abused for years by an
incompetent president that allowed people to pour through an open border,
criminals from all over the world, murders and insane people
from mental institutions and in Santa Sanum's, isn't it a
beautiful thing when you say it's the most secure it's
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ever been in the history of our country. Isn't that
a nice statement.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It is a nice and I actually think that we
have to keep hammering that home because I think it's
indicative that you have to trust Trump on economic and
tax policy and other immigration policy choices. Because everything that
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he said he would do at the border, he did it,
and he did it in the first month, and Democrats said, basically,
this was impossible. And it is an incredible accomplishment to
have the most secure border that we've ever had in
the history of our nation. And so I don't think
we can overlook that as there are other battles that
are intensely underway right now, and I think, I mean,
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I know we talked about the stock market for several
weeks back in April. You know, the stock market is
now higher than it was at the beginning of April.
That's the S and P five hundred, the Dow, and
the Nasdaq. And if you were just calm and you
either bought more or you just put your four to
oh one k off to the side and didn't look
at it, you're doing very well. Unfortunately, I know that
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a lot of people bought high and sold low because
you let your emotions get the better of you. But
we're potentially We'll see how it goes today, Buck, I
think it would be ten straight days, which is a record,
or the last twenty years of stock market going up.
And we're basically back to where we were on election day.
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So if you didn't feel incredibly poor on election day,
and I hope a lot of you did not, then
the stock market goes up and down. But six months
later we're basically at the exact same place as we
were then, and I think that's significant and why I
hope that you stood strong and didn't bail and turn
into what did pankin? What did Trump call it? Don't
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be a pankin? Yes, don't be a panikin. Yes, he's
good with the words. Trump bigly, bigly talented when it
comes to words. We have a new tariff that got
discussed though in this interview. This is getting a lot
of attention. I think it was covered the Wall Street
Journal online today or at least on the front page,
if you will, about the movie industry in this country.
And Clay Trump has appointed as special ambassadors to Hollywood
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Mel Gibson, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And John Voight. And there is a big problem with
Hollywood right now.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
People who.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Rob Low did a podcast. I'm a Rob Low fan.
Rob Low did a podcast. Guy said, quite a career, long,
long time, and they were talking about how expensive it
is to try to make any movie in Hollywood right now,
and it's insane, but it's actually a really good microcosm.
People might say, oh, this is what's actually a huge business,
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but I might say, this is just one industry, and okay,
but what's going on when you can't make movies in
America anymore? We're the place that makes all the movies,
but we have to make them in other countries. I
think that this is important because it shows what we're
dealing with here with stupid policy, with unnecessary regulation and cost.
So Trump says they're going to be tariffs now on
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movies that are not made here.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Play two the lobby tariffs.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
What they've done is other nations just happened stealing the movies,
the movie making capabilities from the United States.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And I said to a couple of people, what do
you think.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I've bested a very strong research over the last league,
and we're making very few movies now. Hollywood is being destroyed.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
If you have an inconfident trustly in confident governor that
allows that to happen.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
So I'm not just blaming other nations, but other nations
a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Of them have stolen our movie in this and I'm saying,
if they're.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Not willing to make a movie inside the United States,
and we should have a tariff when movies that come in.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
And not only that, governments are.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Actually giving big money, I mean they're supporting them for that.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So that's sort of all right to Clay here. Let's
the audio is not great there, but you hear Trump
saying more or less saying, look, it's too expensive. On
that Rob Low podcast that I mentioned, he said that
I think it was for a lot of productions. Even
if there was an open lot in Hollywood, the actual
movie lot that no one is using. It is cheaper
to fly the entire cast to Budapest and makes the
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movie in Hungary.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
There's American production companies.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, I mean, this is a reality and Hollywood and
I actually think Trump, some of you probably are going
to think this too, may be too kind right here
and what he's doing because la is not exactly Trump
Country and Hollywood isn't either. But I think it's emblematic
of staying committed to principle over the politics here. Hollywood
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and America in general is being hollowed out now. Partly
that's because of the cost, to your point, Buck, that
Gavin Newsom has put to bear on production there. I know,
I worked on a Hollywood studio, well, a LA studio
on the Fox Lot. I've spent months and months, if
not years, of my life doing shows that are originating
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from LA, sometimes here locally in Nashville, but other times
on the lot itself. And there has been a tremendous decline.
I think the number in the New York Times I
was reading about it is something like thirty percent of
all Hollywood productions have vanished in the last couple of years.
And they're now going elsewhere. And there's a lot of
people struggling that used to work. And I'll point this
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out the people Buck, and you've you might heard Adam
Carolla telling us this. I found it to be true.
The guys and gals who build the sets and walk
around with the cameras and do the physically laborious jobs
of making movies and television, actually a lot of them
vote Republican. Because they would come up to me and
they'd be like dude, I agree with everything you're saying.
They'd say it quietly. You know a lot of times
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the people in front of the cameras don't, but the
people behind the scenes. These people are really hard working,
physical laborers oftentimes, and many of them are Trump people.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You know, my wife yesterday was tending to our baby,
little Speed, and we're flipping through because she, you know,
she's got a lot of baby chores to take care
of it. I try to help out, so I'm there
with her and we're in kind of that mode where
we're all taking a beat with the baby. We're trying
to find something on team. We're flipping through and we
get to the Schwarzenegger classic Commando, which she had never seen,
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and we proceeded to dive in. Have you ever seen Commando?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Of course, up there with the rock. In terms of
great movie, absolutely preposterous and makes no sense in any
but doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, still a great movie, but
it's the whole thing. You can tell it's shot in
the in like the either the Hollywood Hills or probably
in the valley somewhere. I mean it shot right in
the vicinity of la You can just see the topography
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and the cars all have LA license plates on and
everything else. And it's just funny because that used to
be the standard. So many of the movies we grew
up with, we're all filmed in and around southern California
because that's where Hollywood was, right. So you just you
hired a camera crew, you went to a place that
And what we've seen now is they're all making movies
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in Vancouver. Why are you going to make movies in Vancouver?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I don't think what.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Trump is doing is crazy, But beyond that, I think
people recognize that bad policy and bad decision making by
people like Gavin Newsom have really made it hard for
one of the great American industries, which is true of
the movie industry. It is one of the great. We
are totally dominant in movies and we should continue to be.
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Speaker 3 (16:21):
We're gonna get into the latest deportation plan of the
Trump team, which is going to be I think really
kind of fascinating. There also is a poll up do
you believe I could make the swim from Alcatraz to
San Francisco or would I drowned slash be eaten by sharks.
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Only eight percent of people believe I could make the swim.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Buck This is.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I just I understand that some of you are elite
swimmers out there. I just I don't think there's any
way that I would not be able to make it.
Like I could walk fifty miles today if I wanted to,
I could just keep going and swimming. I think I
would just, you know, take a little break every now.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And then, and then I would keep going.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Like I'm confident I could make this swim. But most
of you disagree. And there are a lot of flute memes.
One of you suggested I could turn my flute into
a snorkel, and a lot of you have put me
in bathing suit, which is not a flattering I am
now deluged in my mentions with photos of Clay in
a speedo playing the flute in San Francisco Bay. I
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was not expecting this.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
This is funny.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Paula Scanlon, who was Leah Thomas's teammate at the University
of Pennsylvania, has now weighed in and said that she
and Riley Gaines would be happy to help me train
for the big swim from Alcatraz. I just know I
would get eaten by a shark, I'd swear. I just
feel like this is tempting fate from a shark perspective
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more than any thing else. Uh So amazing responses so far,
lots of talkbacks. Here is Reginald from San Diego who
has already weighed in. Uh he says he swam from
Alcatraz to San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Reginald, What did Reginald say? AA? No claim buck, I.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Have done it.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I had swim from Alcatraz and San Francisco and Chap
had an hour. There was a lot of chop. It
was brutal that cotron to begun, and there were swim teams,
you know, high school boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
He and you know Speed's doing it so you don't
even have to have I.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I would definitely wear a wet suit. It was really
funny if that's true. There were high school swim teams
that would just be lapping me the whole way and
I might have to be saved. But I feel better
about it since Reginald just let me know you guys
can weigh in. I wanted to hit this buck, as
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one does, in addition to my incredible ability to swim,
which a lot of you are having a great deal
of fun with. I saw this from Bill Malugin speaking
of a guy who'd looked good into bathing suit in
an incredible transition there, and Bill Malujin this morning broke
news that I'm curious to get your reaction to buck.
We played the audio from Kristen Welker at NBC where
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they were making it clear that the border is more
secure than it ever has been before. But we talked.
I talked with Tom Homan and we've asked this question,
how many people are self deporting?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
This morning Malujin reported.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
That they are going to be willing to pay listen
to this buck for the commercial flights of illegal aliens
who self deport, and they will give them an additional
thousand dollars once they are confirmed to have left the country.
This will save American taxpayers seventy percent, as a currently
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cost DHS on average about seventeen thousand dollars to arrest, detain,
and deport someone for the US while paying for the flights,
so this would cost way less, and it's trying to
encourage people to self deport. Our friend Stephen Miller, who
was on Friday with us Bucks, said the savings are
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as much as one million dollars per illegal alien family,
given the long term costs of free welfare and public support.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Interesting idea.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Do you think it works in any way to people say, Okay,
I'll take this free flight, I'll go back home, because
there is talk that some people are here don't have
the resources to get back to the country that they
came from.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I like the idea. I think the number has to
be a bit higher, quite a bit higher for people
to and then you do get into this, so now
we're going to reward illegal behavior, you know, which is
what you are doing. That you're rewarding a legal behavior
in some way. However, the savings are without question, so okay,
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well what's more important, what's best for the country and
the taxpayer, or that we further. You know, part of
the punishment is you have to leave the countries. It's
not like people are getting away entirely with the illegal
act of entry, but I so it's a thousand dollars
they're gonna have to Those are rookie numbers. I think
they're gonna have to pump those numbers up in order
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to get to where they need to be on this.
But one of the big problems, and this is what
drives me so nuts when we have these discussions about immigration,
one of the big problems that never gets addressed is
it is existing immigration immigration law right now that you
are not allowed to be a public charge, and that
includes legal immigrants. I might ask, yes, you are not
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supposed to be able to come to this country and
be on welfare, period, Because everyone can understand that there's
a lot of poor places all over the world, and
if people can just get to America and be in
a safe place where all their bills are paid and
they don't have to do anything, they're going to want
to do that. And that's not good for the American people.
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That's not a fair a fair bargain for us. But
that law of Clay or that part of statute is
effectively ignored now. And there's all kinds of ways that
states and even federal programs, but state programs are exploited
by illegals to give them welfare. So the savings would
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be massive if you could do this I would say
this seems to be a pattern to remember with the
buyouts of federal employees. Initially it was a very very
small number, but it got a little bit bigger, a
little bit bigger. Part of this may be Clay, Okay,
they're not going to self deport right now, but if
there are dramatic increases in that deportation number, sucks that
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people believe there's a realistic.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Chance they could be deported.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Better to do it on your own terms, on your
own schedule, and get that thousand bucks. So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I think the concept in general I actually like because
it's giving someone an incentive to return. I also think
it I'm going back to their home country. I also
think it helps to address what probably is an issue
for some people. To your point, Buck that they don't
have the resources. They are a drain on the country
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and on our taxpayer dollars. But they get here and
they don't want to walk all the way back to
South America, and as a result, they may feel like
they're trapped here. If they got a free lameth flight
back home, my concern is that they would leave and
then try to come back right and you would hope
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our southern border is secure enough that that wouldn't happen,
but that then we'd be paying for them to go
back home on a vacation and then they find a
way to get back into the country. That would be
somewhat of my concern, But right now nobody seems to
be getting in, and so I like this idea. I
don't think it's at harms. Tom Holman told me that
they knew that around five thousand people had self deported
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based on the CB one app that they could track,
and he thought it was more than that. And so
I do think that there's nothing wrong with trying it,
and it eliminates, to Steven Miller's point, what could potentially
be a really long process. And Trump, I believe, answered
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that question from Kristen Welker. Well, everybody is focused on
the due process argument, but Trump's claim is very valid.
If we have to do millions of due process hearings,
there truly is no way to deport these people.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I mean, another thing they could do is say that
they will for people who self deport, you know, they'll
give them a thousand dollars and maybe they'll also waive
the restriction on being able to legally apply to the country. Now,
legally apply to the country would be that takes a
long time, and it's it's not an easy process. But
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you know, I'm just saying they may try to come
up with new incentives to get people to leave and
try to come in a legal way. Money is obviously one,
but within the process they may do they may do
some other things. Because right now, I mean, if you
overstay your visa, for example, you're not you're not able
to get another visa, and you're not going to be
able to become a Green card holder, right I mean,
if you break immigration law and then try to come
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through the legal system, you have all kinds of problems.
But if you're just illegal the whole time, Yeah, and
you just sort of get to go along with it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Here's cut seven. Here's Trump at answering that question from
Kristen Welker about due process for illegal aliens.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Your Secretary of State says, everyone who's here, citizens and
non citizens deserve due process. Do you agree, mister?
Speaker 6 (25:51):
I don't know. I'm not I'm not a lawyer. I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know it change.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
It seems it might say that, but you're talking about that,
then we'd have to have a million or two million,
or three million trials. We have thousands of people that
are some murderers and some drug dealers, and some of
the worst people on earth. That is, some of the worst,
most dangerous people on earth, and I was elected to
get them the hell out of here, and the courts
are holding me from doing it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
This is the essence of this, and this is what
we've tried to hammer home to a lot of you.
The courts are set up to allow tons of illegal
people into this country, and there is truly no mechanism
to deport millions of people from this country. The math
doesn't add up in terms of how long it takes
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to get those people out. Democrats know it. That's why
they opened up the southern border.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
They knew.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
If twenty million, which is the number Tom Holman gave me,
twenty million illegals are here in four years. Let's say
that Trump is able to deport a million people of
the people that are illegally here still here, and then
Democrats come in if they win in twenty twenty nine,
take the oath of office. You know what they'll do
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buck immediately change the immigration laws and open back up
the southern border and allow millions of more people in here.
And that's that's the challenge we're in. We have a
system where they can all come here, and our courts
don't allow us right now to get them all out.
And I like Trump's answer here because I do think
it's time. How would you answer that question structurally? Do
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twenty million illegal immigrants that shouldn't be here that we
know are not citizens, do they deserve to have hearings
in front of all of our courts. There's no way
that we could do that unless somehow we just and
maybe this is something they're thinking about, Unless Trump issues
an executive order and makes like one hundred thousand new
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immigration judges and all they do is hold these hearings
basically stamp it and they're gone. That's that to me
is the only possible of a way is if you
had a special court in some way put in place
that only focused on illegal immigration, and you could have
these hearings basically around the clock at all times, because
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otherwise there's no way to comply in our current judiciary
with due process rights as currently applied, that would lead
to these people ever being forced out of the country.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I think part of the outrage over this too is
that we've all seen that the decision, it was a
decision to let in the illegals under bid in the
first place. They didn't want to stop it. They actively
decided to do this. So it's not a problem that
Trump has inherited that everybody wishes didn't happen. It was
active sabotage of our sovereignty by the Democrats. This was
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the choice made by the Democrat Party. And we all
understand why. They think that the more illegals who come in,
the more people will be dependent on the state, and
the taxpayer resources and redistribution and the welfare state in
America will essentially turn it into a one party state
when you pilot enough people from the third world who
are going to need and desire state resources. So that's
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that's the plan, right, That's what they've been running with.
And in the meantime, we say, okay, fine, but you
can't have people in the system who say the rule
of law means that the law can be violated endlessly,
but nobody can be punished for violating the law. That
can't be the system. I mean, they can say whatever
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they want about this or that statute. But that's there's
a there's an in principle rejection of that clay that
I think is going on. And that's what's different. Now
they can point to whatever statute a statute they want.
They ignored the statutes that should have kept out the
fifteen million illegals who piled in underbided, and now they
want rule of law. You know, they created an emergency.
(29:51):
You don't get to create an emergency and then say,
hold on a second, you gotta you know, you got
to give us a proper and do notice before you
do anything about it. It's like the house is burning
down and you guys, you guys lift the match and
through the kerosene on the floor. We're not sitting around
debating how we put the fire out with you. So
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Speaker 2 (31:43):
Going for the first time by Nicole Parker, former FBI
special agency, the Foxnews contributor, Nicole, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Let's dive into this shall we story recently on You know?
It's funny friends of ours run the FBI now, Cash
Mittel and Dan Bongino.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
The deputy and the director and the FBI under their
leadership has reassigned a few agents who had been photographed
kneeling during the quote racial justice protests in twenty twenty
after the death of George Floyd. First of all, what
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happened here? Like, how could this have gone on at
the FBI in the first place? And is reassignment really
a punishment? What can you tell us about this move?
Speaker 7 (32:36):
All right? So, first of all, I was in the
Miami Division working as an FBI special agent when it's occurred.
Those pictures were taken of the agent's kneeling on June
fourth of twenty twenty, and internally at the FBI those
photos became popularly known as Nil Team six, you know,
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kind of a sarcastic play on field teams six Neil
team six instead, And it was quite catastrophic internally at
the FBI. I can tell you that agents were not happy.
That is not a proper representation of who we are
and how we should be behaving. And what they did,
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nailing to George Floyd's protesters was unequivocally wrong, and current
and retired agents were called by their actions, and it
was embarrassing to good agents. Yet people say that because
of these demotions and reassignments, there are other current and
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former FBI agents who are disgusted at their reassignments and
disgusted at the demotion. So what I can tell you
is that this is a clear example and clear demonstration
of what I witnessed at the FBI. There really are
two fbis. Okay, I call it FBI one versus FBI two,
And the way I perceive it, FBI one were solid
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FBI agents that just came to do their jobs. They
took a oath to uphold the Constitution and to protect
the American people and to put all political persuasions aside.
FBI two were those that oftentimes were in leadership roles.
It wasn't just people in DC, it was people from
the top, and it trickled all the way down to
the bottom. There were people in the support staff that
also fall into FBI two. These are individuals that use
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their law enforcement power to push their political and social agendas,
and this demonstration of them kneeling, in my opinion, is
the epitome of FBI two behavior. And FBI one was
not happy about it because that is embarrassing and shameful
behavior for an FBI one agent and.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So agents, Yeah, no, no, I was just going to say,
I thought you were finished answering that, but I was
going to remind you came on with us January second.
And I think this ties in with what you're saying
right now. Right after the terror attack in New Orleans,
they had an FBI agent go up and say that
they didn't know whether this was a terror attack. How
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much do you think the culture has already changed inside
of the FBI with Cash Hotel now in charge. In
Dan Bongino's second, based on what you're hearing so with them.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
In this clear indication that this puck of behavior is
not tolerable again. This happened in June of twenty twenty,
and they're taking action on it now, on this five
years later, I think what it shows is that cash
depel means business. Okay, President Trump won, the FBI and
DOJ were politically and socially weaponized, and there are two
fbis right now. I'm sorry there are and what cash
(35:38):
thepel and Dan Bongino and all other solid leadership, the
Trump administration, Attorney General Pambondi. Their goal is to make
one FBI. We just want one solid FBI, and they're
taking steps each and every day. Some of them are
more publicly seen, some of them are behind the scenes.
But this to me is a huge, bold move that
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indicates they mean business and people will be held accountable
and there will be tangible consequences, and without tangible consequences,
the FBI will remain two fbis. And so I like it.
I think it's a bold move. I think FBI one
is supportive of this, because again, this is not the
demonstration of who we are. We know you do not
wear your official FBI marked ballistic vests in public, making
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a political and social statement and kneeling to protesters. It
looked like those mealers were in supportive of the cause
of the George Floyd protesters. That is entirely inappropriate. You
can never make political or social statements on FBI time,
in SDI gear and especially in public, and the FBI
is to remain politically and socially neutral, and under the
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Biden administration in particular, that was not the case. How
shirts inappropriate as well. You should not wear any political
T shirt ever at the FBI.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
So when I was a CIA a long time ago,
you could see that a HR policy and some of
the analyst cadre was just becoming more and more left
wing all the time. And I think that was I
think the HR and admin was really where it started,
because you know, agency guys who had been in for
a long time were not tended not to be woke.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
But then it started to become.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
More woke and more more left wing and more ideologically
ideologically driven.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
How could this happen at the FBI?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Though, right we all watch I mean, as we're talking
about the rock before, we think of the FBI as
very by the books been in Polish all about the law.
And you got a bunch of communists running the place
under Biden. How did that happen?
Speaker 7 (37:40):
I think how it happened it's twofold. Again. There were
people that have always been at the FBI that have
not really been necessarily doing the right thing, that were
appointed to high leadership roles and physicians. I think also
the FBI and their DEI hiring to hiring standards changed drastically.
So the type of individuals that they were looking to
hire agents and supports that I would say changed drastically.
(38:02):
And so now you have just a different shift in
how the FBI used to operate versus how it is
operating now. But again immediately they are changing and increasing
the physical fitness requirements to a higher level at the FBI.
In the test they are getting rid of DEI entirely.
There were nineteen clubs and organizations if you can belete that.
How does the FBI have time for nineteen you know,
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social justice clubs. Until every single case in crime as
solved at the FBI, there's no time for that. But
that's what this last administration specifically focused on, I thought
under the Obama administration as well. But I think the
key is getting to the root of the problems. And
again we going back to the kneelers, they claim that
they were in fear of violence. They thought that, you know,
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they were in fear for their lives. I personally saw
no signs of violence or anyone being in imminent danger
of death or serious physical injury. And in fact, many
of the kneelers were clapping, they were smiling, they were cheering,
and those are hardly signs of druss or wait.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Wait, just real, real quick. The FBI people claimed they
kneeled because they were.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
Scared, correct these fbis, that's insane. They said that they
were in fear for their lives of serious violence breaking out.
But yet these and most of them are female, and
they're clapping and cheering, totally inappropriate. You don't look like
you're in fear for your life. And if you're an
FBI agent and your fear for your life because some
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protesters walk by, I can tell you I knew of
other agents at surrounding buildings because they were asked to
stand in front of posts in front of these buildings
to protect them. Other agents that other buildings weren't kneeling,
and there was no major violence breaking out of those.
I didn't see anyone charging f these agents where they
felt that their life was in serious you know, emminent
(39:46):
danger of death or serious physical injury. I'm sorry, and
I worked violent crime in Miami. If you were in
fear for your life, the FBI highly trains us at Quantico.
We go through firearms training, we go through defensive tactics training,
right extensive training. And if you weren't fear for your
life in that situation, with all due respect, you really
should not be an FBI agent because if all you're
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capable of doing is working behind a desk and you're
not able to, you know, face potential violence. We are
for law enforcement officers as FBI agents, and you need
to be able to stand on your own two feets
literally and not kneel. But again, there was no one
charging at them, laughing and smiling. And then what was
more disgusting to us internally, these agents were thinking, you know,
(40:32):
they're going to get disciplined, They're probably going to get fired.
If not, they're going to get disciplined. Not only did
that not happen, they got some of the most highly
sought after positions at the FBI. They were offered one
hundred dollars gift cards by the FBI agent's association. After
that incident, it looked like they were rewarding them. And
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that's the FBI two that I worked under, and that
is why I left the FBI, because myself and others
looked at that and we said, this is wrong, this
is embarrassing, this is shameful behavior. I want no part
of this, and America needs to know what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Uh, Nicole, thanks for coming on, and again I love
this perspective. Do you remember a moment you started enjoying
the FBI to try to catch bad guys like Buck
joined the CIA? Do you remember a moment in time
when you were working and things shifted? When did the
culture the vibe start to change as an FBI agent?
(41:28):
Do you remember a moment or was it a slow slide?
Speaker 7 (41:33):
I would say it was a slow slide, but the
defining moment that I initially noticed that the FBI was
political because I started in twenty ten. It would be
in twenty sixteen when Jim Coney got in front of
the American people on July fifth of twenty sixteen and
he said that no reasonable prosecutor would chart Hillary Clinton. Well,
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fast forward, where was the reasonable prosecutor who wouldn't charge
Donald Trump and like looking at it, and I'm thinking,
isn't that interesting. It's all about when it fits their
narrative and when it's convenient for them. But this is
not equal enforcement of the law. And for them to
say that it is, that's insulting. It's insulting to the
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American people, and it's resulting to the FBI one agents.
We're not stupid, like we knew exactly what was going
on at the FBI. So for me, I would say
July fi the twenty sixteen, when Jim Comeys got out there. Okay,
So then Jim Comy gets fired rightfully, So Christopher Ray
comes in. We're hoping that he'll be better. He wasn't.
He wasn't any better at all. And so it ramps
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up very strongly in the summer of twenty twenty when
we noticed that the FBI was doing virtually nothing to
stop these violent rioters from burning down our country. And
then fast forward to January sixth of twenty twenty one,
the FBI went full force for misdemeanors, and they did
that for four straight years. But yet when our country
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was getting burned to the ground, virtually no response Nuary
six full force. And that happened over and over and
over at the FBI. So and then the social justice
Warrior email. I started feeling like I worked for a
social justice warrior club rather than a law enforcement agency.
(43:18):
And I talked about this. My best friend was killed.
She was shot and killed in the line of duty
executing a warrant against this child predator. There was no
SWAT team for her. Yet they were liberally sending SLAT
resources in the same time frame for January sixth and misdemeanors,
but yet no SLAT team for the most violent offender
(43:39):
that the FBI takes down. And now we have two
dead FBI agents. Others were shot, but yet it was
just so blatant. And then the FBI didn't even tell
us what happened. They didn't even tell us what happened,
but yet I got a DEI email almost every single day.
Can you imagine how sad that was? My friend is dead.
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I don't know what's happened, but yet I need to
be informed that there's nineteen different clubs at the FBI
for social destinori or purposes. I wanted no part of that.
That's not why I joined and Sadly, a lot of
people like myself walked away from the bureau. But the
good part now is I do believe in redemption, and
(44:22):
I do believe that there are so many good people
still at the FBI, and the key is proper leadership
and bringing the right people on board and getting the
FBI back on track.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Outstanding stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
As always, Nicole Parker encourage you guys to follow her
on social media. Thank you for sharing your story and
thank you for giving us feedback on this. I wanted
to make sure you came on when I saw it happen.
Speaker 7 (44:45):
All right, Well, I love y'all so much, and keep
up the good work and God bless y'all.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Thank you so much. Nicole Parker will share her social
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Speaker 1 (46:15):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Is Trump
running for a third term.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
He loved to talk about it because the media gets
in a total panic over the whole thing. Although I
would just point out that what do they do really now?
They they just cover Trump. That's all. That's all that
they exist to do. Uh, and they kind of need it,
especially over at MSNBC. I tried to watch maybe this
(46:41):
is like an addiction that I can't shake. I tried
to watch a little bit of Morning Joe this morning.
Oh No, so boring.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
I know.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I went back to it, you know, you know, Morning
Joe sent me a U up text and I was like, okay, fine,
you know, I'll respond. So I try to watch. It's
so boring and worthless that I turn it off. Honestly,
in ten minutes. I couldn't even couldn't even get through
a full segment. It was just such a waste of time.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Is it fair to say that in the combination of
saying this is the best version of Biden and then
showing up to Ben the need to Trump, that basically
that show just doesn't matter anymore. I mean, yeah, the
way at this rate, at this rate, Joe and Mika
are going to be selling sham walls in about six
to twelve months. I mean, it's really it's tough. It's
tough over there, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
It's a it's a bit like watching one big slow
motion funeral for their careers. But anyway, Yeah, the media
is having a tough time. We'll talk about this Trump
third term stuff in a second. I just have a question, Clay,
just a curiosity things. I know you'll know this because
I seem to recall finding out at some point years
ago that because the NFL commissioner, they're going to do
the draft now on the lawn, so the president has
(47:43):
now we played that audio a minute ago. Doesn't the
NFL commissioner make like forty million dollars a year or
just something completely outrageous. I thought I could do that job,
and I don't even know anything about.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Football, probably more than forty million a year now. And
the way they justify it is he's the CEO basically
of the NFL. But each of the thirty two NFL
teams kicks in like a million and a half dollars,
so rounding basis like that isn't that much. But I
(48:15):
think it's the best job in sports, and I think
it is, to your point, also the easiest job in sports,
because people love football and all you have to do
is not be a complete and total moron, and you
can run that business. This is the classic thing. I
think that people always need to remember that there are
a lot of jobs out there that are really hard
(48:37):
to get and not very hard to do.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Right's like, a lot of people want the job. I'm
not saying it's easy to become that person or to
get that role, but it's not hard to do. It's
not hard to do, dude. You or I could be
you know, a tenured at Harvard professors tomorrow. Like very
hard job to get, but yeah, way easier than what
we're doing right now. And I love our jobs, our jobs.
(49:01):
I can't believe we get paid to do this, but
there are a lot of jobs out there. And I
just think NFL commissioner get just like go to meetings
and talk about sports all day and make I mean,
how many players make thirty or forty million dollars a year?
Speaker 3 (49:13):
I would increasingly more, and they would argue partly because
of his leadership, but yeah, like, if you're a star
quarterback in the NFL, now you make fifty million dollars.
A few receivers make really big money defensive ends, but
Roger Goodell is probably higher paid than ninety five percent
of NFL players, at least maybe ninety yeah, ninety five
(49:36):
is probably a good guess. And but I think the
best job. I think that is an amazing job. I
still think the best job in media relative to pay.
You know, Judge Judy makes over fifty million dollars a year.
I've talked about this before because I think it's the
best job anywhere in media. And she only works thirty
(49:56):
days a year or something. They tape all those shows
bang bang bang, so she barely has to be on
set or in studio. Otherwise she can just travel around
the world for the other eleven months out of the year.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Basically, but when some guy refuses to return the hoes
that he borrowed from his neighbor and the damages are
an excess of thirty or forty dollars, you need Judge
Judy to just be like, excuse me, sir, do you.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
I think I could do that job. I think I
could do Judge Clay. Judge Judy's eighty five years old.
I think if they let me play the role of judge.
I mean, I've got the law background. I think I
could do that gig and I might retire about I
don't even have that law background, and I could do
that gig. The easiest gig in the world, you know,
But I mean that's the best fifty million to work
(50:49):
thirty days a year, and really, I mean, that's not
a high stress job.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
You're trying to solve relatively inconsequential.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
I've read about lay. It's not even illegal. Rather, it's
not even a true court proceeding. It's binding arbitration. So
she is just in the role of arbitrator for low,
basically low stakes disputes.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
My understanding is they go and they grab the small
claims court cases that they think are interesting, get both
parties to sign that they will agree to be bound
by whatever her judgment is, and she's the art manager.
And basically all they have to do is just find
somewhat interesting cases that they think their audience will respond
well to, probably doing interviews to find out whether or
(51:32):
not the plaintiff and defendant are also entertained. I used
to watch people score back in the day with Judge Wabner.
I think Judge Wapner is the kind of the og.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
I'm he may be the goat of the of the
fake judge presiding over minor disputes with people. Because I
used to watch him too back in the day, so
I mean he was he was definitely the guy that
went that took this into the stratosphere. And then he
had Judge Joe Brown, and you had all these different
guys who were trying to be wapner. But Judy is
(52:02):
the one who's made the most money. And I'm also
not just realizing if you guys all push Clay into
actually doing this Alcatraz swim like I can't. I can't
leave my can't leave my wingman. You know, I'm gonna
have to get in a wet suit too, And I'm
not as buoyant as I used to be, so this
is a little bit concerning. I'll be honest with you. You know,
flotation is easier when you got a little extra to
love on you. So I've lost some buoyancy in the
(52:23):
last year.
Speaker 3 (52:24):
Well, I'm told that the challenge is just to avoid
getting swept out to sea, so I I you know,
that is a that's a pretty substantial I'd say, good
life lesson.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
And if we do see a big fin in the water,
the good news is I don't have to outswim the shark.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I just have to outswim Clay. So you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
I just got to figure out which direction I gotta
go in. Like some old joke about a bear in
the woods. I'm sure you've heard that one right When
the guy, yeah, that's the bear with the two hikers,
he's like, why are you taking off your hiking boots
and putting on your sneakers? Because I don't have to
outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you. Yeah,
it's true.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Speaking of runs, this is disappointing. Brian Can, governor of Georgia,
has just announced to the Atlanta Journal Constitution this is
breaking literally right now, that he will not run for
Senate in the open Georgia Senate seat in twenty twenty six. Well,
let's hope Republicans don't decide to lose a fourth winnable
(53:17):
Senate seat in that state.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
That would be nice. We'll see.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Wait, but we mentioned this third, yes, third run thing
right with the with the president, with President Trump running
for a third time. He talked about this on NBC
on their morning show Meet the Press. This has caught four.
Let's hear what the man himself said.
Speaker 5 (53:35):
The Trump organization is selling hats that say Trump twenty
twenty eight. Here Are you seriously considering a third term,
mister president, even though it's prohibited by the Constitution, or
is this about staying politically viable.
Speaker 6 (53:49):
I will say this, so many people want me to
do it. I have never had requests so strong as that.
But it's something that, to the best of my knowledge,
and not allowed to do.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
I don't know if.
Speaker 6 (54:01):
That's constitutional that they're not allowing you to do it
or anything else. But there are many people selling the
twenty twenty eight hat. But this is not something I'm
looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years
and turn it over to somebody, ideally a great Republican,
a great Republican to carry it forward.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Okay, Clay, this is Trump being real for or you know,
this is him being serious for a moment. He's like, look, guys,
like it's not not really running for a third term.
I want to have a great four years. So the
media with their he's a dictator, he's a fascist. Hey,
he just likes to poke you, just like we've said
all along, not a surprise. Here's what I think is interesting.
He doesn't say who the successor is. And I've said
(54:44):
this all along, and that's but I don't think there is.
I don't think this is in any way a judgment
on jd Vance from Trump. I think Trump so far
has has nothing but good feelings and good you know, basically,
everything that jade Van's done I think has and on
points since he's been the vice president, I don't think
he's done anything that Trump wouldn't say, great, high five.
(55:05):
It's not about that. It was interesting when she raised
this about well, are you going to be in the
game going forward? I think that Trump, as long as
he is around, is going to be in the position
of Republican kingmaker, and he wants to see how things develop.
He doesn't want to get ahead of himself and anoint
(55:25):
anybody to success or this early. Even though he has
a vice president. You know, that's kind of a tradition.
That's not really or I shouldn't say it's a tradition.
You know, vice president doesn't mean that you were the
nominee the next time around if you have two terms.
You know, a lot of people very happy with what
Marco Rubio has been doing a secretary of state. How
do you see that? Because to me, the interesting part
(55:47):
of this is more Trump positioning himself going forward. As
as kingmaker and not Trump's going to run a third time.
He's not going to run a third time.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah. I really thought it was interesting that he specifically
shouted out Jade Vance and Marco Rubio because what it
immediately made me think of buck was it took me
back to the twenty sixteen sweepstakes when Obama set down
Joe Biden and said, hey, my pick is gonna be Hillary. Now,
there's obviously not the same mental cognition related issues for
(56:19):
either Marco Rubio or JD Vance at play, but the
fact that Trump mentioned both made me kind of wonder
how much of this will be a coronation of JD Vance.
And jd has pointed out, Hey, if things go well
for three years, I think there'll be a lot of
opportunities for people who want to run. But how many
challengers will JD Vance actually end up with It's hard
(56:42):
to forecast right now, But inside of the administration, Rubio
is obviously very liked by Trump. He's got four different
jobs right now, and JD Vance was the pick. Remember,
if I don't I believe I'm correct, the final three
that Trump considered were JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and Doug Bergham,
(57:03):
and there were a lot of people pushing for Burgham
and Rubio and a lot of people pushing for Vance too,
but that seems to have been the final three that
Trump made the decision about. And I just kind of
wonder how this is gonna all shake out because he
seems to really like Rubio and he seems to obviously
really like JD.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Vance.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Is it possible those guys run together and have a
unity ticket or are we going to see another you know,
Donnie Brook like we saw in twenty twenty six, twenty sixteen,
where you have nineteen or twenty people running and you're
not sure who the who the pick's going to be.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Well, if this administration continues on the path that it's
currently on, I think that it's very likely that de facto,
the next Republican nominee will be whoever Donald Trump says
it should be. Now, does that mean that he relishes
that it's a bit like being on the Apprentice?
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Does that mean that he relishes that position or does
that mean that he likes to be the elder statesman
who gets to preside over whatever that contest looks like,
you know, be the guy who's more just kind of
overseeing it instead of having his guy or his gal. Look,
(58:15):
I know it's early for this in a sense, but
it's also not that early because in a year this
is already, this is gonna be a thing where people
are making moves. This is why after the mid term
this starts. It's gonna start. I mean, this is why
having a one term lock in for Trump means that
this conversation is gonna We're gonna be having election conversations
(58:36):
a lot sooner than would be anticipated because when you
have a first term president, when he's running again, the
assumption is that it's him and everyone knows that, and
so you don't have that same jump to position for
the primary. And I think this time around there will
be before you know it, it'll be there. And the
good news for the Republicans is, I mean truly a
(58:57):
deep bench. And the way I think you can just
see that clay As, there are a whole bunch of
people already around Trump who if they became the nominee,
a lot of MAGA people would say, fantastic, this is
carrying on the legacy. I also think it'll be interesting
on the Trump side. We've never seen Trump as a
quote unquote lame duck. That's not me taking a shot
(59:20):
at Trump. It's obviously what you're called when you can't
run for reelection. But the president still would be there
for all of twenty twenty seven and most well all
of twenty twenty eight, and yet he wouldn't be angling
for anything politically. So what does Trump, truly unbound by
any potential to run for any political office going forward?
(59:41):
Actually look like? He grips and rips quite a lot.
Now can you imagine what he would be like without
having to run for reelection? Yeah? What do the executive
orders look like when Trump's only got eighteen months left
in office?
Speaker 1 (59:51):
That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
Well, you know, what are those press conferences like when
he's got eighteen months left? It's it's already pretty mind blowing.
Do even know what eleven on the dial would be like?
Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
No doubt.
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