May 7, 2025 • 56 mins
RINO Thom Tillis
A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to critiquing Senator Thom Tillis of North Carolina for his refusal to support Ed Martin, Trump's nominee for US Attorney for Washington DC. The hosts argue that Martin's work defending January 6th defendants should not disqualify him from the position and express disappointment in Tillis's stance. They invite Tillis to explain his decision on the show, emphasizing the importance of the US Attorney role in DC.
NC Residents sound off on Senator Tillis
The hosts also discuss the broader implications of Tillis's decision, comparing it to past political maneuvers and expressing frustration with Republican senators who betray their base. They highlight the need for strong leadership and accountability within the party.
Another Disney Blunder
The guys get into a heated discussion about Florida's "Parental Rights in Education" bill, often misrepresented as the "Don't Say Gay" bill. Clay and Buck criticize Disney's reaction to the bill, highlighting the company's hypocrisy as it plans to open a new theme park in Abu Dhabi, a country with severe anti-LGBTQ+ laws.
The conversation also touches on broader issues of gender identity and indoctrination in schools, emphasizing the ideological battles surrounding these topics. The hosts play audio clips from ESPN's controversial moment of silence in solidarity with LGBTQ+ communities, contrasting it with Disney's actions in the UAE. They argue that the left's approach to these issues is inconsistent and driven by power dynamics.
Raymond Arroyo
Fox News Analyst Raymond Arroyo discusses the ongoing process of selecting the next Pope from the Vatican City. He explains the historical and procedural aspects of the conclave, including the seclusion and voting methods of the cardinals. Arroyo highlights the significance of the event for both Catholics and non-Catholics, noting the ancient traditions and rituals involved. He also touches on the potential candidates for the papacy, contrasting the progressive and traditional factions within the Church. The interview provides insights into the complexities and expectations surrounding the election of the new Pope.
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you know, because I think we do a fair amount
of high fiving the team, so to speak, for the
administration so far doing a great job, which they are,
and a lot of members. I think we had a
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great conversation with Senator ramp Paul yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I was really.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Pleased to hear him explain he's not opposed to all tariffs,
but he doesn't think that blankets harrif's you. He wants
it targeted and precise. He understands we're not in some
free trade shangri la. You know, we're not in the
xenad of free trade. But he also doesn't want things
to escalate unnecessarily. Anyway, we do a lot of good
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work is being done. We want to tell you about that.
The administration wants to tell you about that. But we
also sometimes have to have a conversation when someone on
our team, so to speak, Team Republican comes up way
short and Clay and I have been looking into looking
into what's happened here with Senator Tillis in North Carolina.
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We have a lot of North Carolina listeners. He made
it clear yesterday that he would not support ed Martin,
who was Donald Trump's nominee for US Attorney for Washington, DC.
And so essentially he went and said, I will not
I will not go forward with this. I will not
be willing to support Tom Tillis is not willing to
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support Trump's US attorney for DC. This is a really
important position. This is not just something that is another
US attorney. Some US attorneys are more important than others
in terms of the kinds of cases politically that they handle.
But Clay, before we dive into this, this is what
Senator Tillis, a Republican mind, you had to say about
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why he will not allow Ed Martin Trump's nominee no
longer former nominee.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I guess for US Attorney d C. Play two.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been
in prison for some period of time. Whether it thirty
days or three years is debatable.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the
building on January the sixth, and that's probably where most
of the friction was. Mister Martin did a good job
of explaining how there were people that probably got caught
up in it, but they made the stupid decision to
come through a building that had been breached and that
the police officers and others were saying stay away.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So the difference wasn't that they should be charged in
my estimation, it's by how much. That's an argument I'm
willing to have. But we have to be very very
clear that what happened on January the sixth was wrong.
It was not prompted are created by other people to
put those people in trouble. They made a stupid decision,
and they disgraced the United States.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I've never heard Tom Tillis speak this angrily about anything
else with this kind of force. I am so ticked
off by this Clay. He's saying that that basically taking
the position that because ed Martin worked as an attorney, Right,
we all know about what happened with John Adams and
the British and the Boston massacre and defense Edmond worked
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as an attorney on behalf of j six people who
were treated horrifically unfairly by the system, and now we
have a Republican senator blocking him from being US attorney
Trump's pick in the maybe the most important seed in
all of DC, in all of the country.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I think it's unacceptable and I don't even know
we've reached out. We should say to Tom Tillis's office. Yeah,
I want him on the show. I want him on
the show. I want to have it out with him
on this January they needed to be punished more severely. Well, look,
I've donated money to the Defense Fund for January sixth defendants.
We've had Julie Kelly on the show probably more than
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almost any single guest.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Tom Tillis would say, you shouldn't be able to be
a US attorney play anywhere in the country, even though
you're a lawyer and you know a lot of excellent
things about you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We don't have to get into that right that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But yeah, look, I mean I think that Tom Tillis
should come on the show. We have extended an invite
to him to explain this decision, and I'll just kind
of continue to hammer my perspective on this. President won
a victory landslide. Every all fifty states moved more conservative.
(04:41):
He won all seven battleground states, including North Carolina, by
a substantial amount. I'm confident that Trump is more popular
in North Carolina than Tillis is. And this particular appointment,
as you just laid out, is very important relative to
the power that it yields. Trump is making Washington, d c.
(05:03):
Better in conjunction honestly with Muriel Bowser, who showed up
for the White House event announcing that the draft would
be taking place there, Buck, I was just up in
a couple months ago. I'm gonna be up. You're going
to be up in June. I was just up two
weeks ago. I think that that DC is and you
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lived there. I went to college there. We spent a
lot of time in the over the past several decades there.
They are making it safer, they are starting to put
violent criminals in prison.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But make no mistake.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
When Joe Biden came into office, they decided through the
US Attorney's Office in DC, that they were going to
drop almost all serious felony charges of a violent nature
to misdemeanors, except they were going to elevate a lot
of misdemeanors related to January sixth to felonies. So was
it just that they went soft on crime. It's that
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in this per particular office, they went soft on crime
on actual danger that people faced in the day to
day lives in DC, while drastically over punishing people who
found themselves in any way affiliated with January sixth.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Some as you pointed out, then we pointed on the.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Show, just people who walked inside open doors grandmas with
selfie sticks were being put in solitary confinement, being locked
up for potentially years, and a DC gulag, and nobody
talked about it. This appointment is very important. The idea
that Tillis would be saying, oh, January sixth was somehow Look,
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I'm not defending January six but in the context of
how BLM rioters and protesters were treated for months, January
sixth was very different. Treatment in DC and other places
and we need some semblance of justice to return. I
think that this is an easy decision. Ed Martin should
be in and I think it's shameful that there would
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be a Republican senator stopping it from happening. Frankly, I
know that North Carolina is a competitive state, and people
will make the argument, oh, well, maybe Tillis.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Is you know the best we can do. No, it's
not Maine.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You can do better than Tom Tillis, because this is
a guy who doesn't know what time it is, doesn't understand,
or I should say, lacks the courage to be in
the fight the way that he needs to be right now.
His problem, apparently with Ed Martin is that as an
interim US Attorney, Martin opened up an investigation into the
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DC hand la DC US Attorney's office handling of J
six cases, and there were some federal prosecutors who were
fired during during that you know, that period, and I
think it all should have been fired. I think that
using your office to destroy American citizens to make some
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kind of political point when they haven't done anything bad
or really bad, you know, depends on who we're talking
about here, right, Yeah, I mean, am I pro trust passing. No,
I'm not pro trespassing. I think you could get a fine.
You know, it depends on who. Now are you able
to punch cops in the face and get away with it? No,
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unless you're a Democrat Biden voter, then it's okay to
punch cops in the face.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You just have to say you're doing it. For George Floyd, we.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Have all seen the way that this game was played
and we are furious about it. And I think what
Tom tillis to me, Clay, this is like somebody who
was you know, supported like faucyite vaccine mandates. This is
a one and done for me. To stand in the
way of a of a solid choice from the Trump
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administration to clean up the obvious weaponization of the DCUs
Attorney's office is outrageous. It's cowardly. And I just hope
that people we got a lot of North Carolina listeners.
I hope they remember. I hope they spread the word
you can do better than Tom tillis some of the worst.
Hat tip our friend Jesse Kelly on this. He's totally right.
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The war Republican betrayals of the base come from Republicans
who are in red and sometimes very red states.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yes, and they get away with it. I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean it's partly because when you get elected, people
don't really pay attention to what you do.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This is the truth.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
When you win in a red state, and Jesse's been
on this for a while, primary turnout it's almost non existent.
We'll see what happens in the state of Texas because
there is probably going to be a huge red state
primary battle between John Cornyn and Ken Paxton, and we
will see how exactly that all shakes out. But I
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think there may well be Tellis challengers in North Carolina.
And I just for the life of me, I don't
understand how in the world this could have occurred, which
is why we've offered him an opportunity to come on.
It feels buck to me, very personal, as if there
is something that is not being said public that actually
(10:01):
is motivating this privately. Does that make sense to you
because arguing, hey, he was too lenient on Jan six
protesters and therefore I can't support him to be US
attorney when he's otherwise very well qualified doesn't add right.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's you have to look at this from the perspective
of a quizzling and it's not smart for the quizzling
to do this unless there's something where you unless he
thinks that he's going to be able to just edge things.
He's up for reelection in twenty six So but I
don't think anyone is.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I don't think anyone cares.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
About uh, you know, like, I don't think this would
be a strike against it with any Republican in North
Carolina or even independent voters.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't understand how that would be even for his
own political viability. This doesn't add up to me because
it doesn't seem to me to be a significant enough
issue that it would motivate turnout either way.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, there might, there may be. There may be something
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Speaker 3 (12:12):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck calling out
Senator Tillis, we're blocking Trump's former now that's been withdrawn
nominee for the US Attorney. He was interim US Attorney
in DC and they wanted to get him voted in
on a permanent basis, and Tillis said, nope, you're too
nice to j six defendants to Ed Martin.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And so here here we are.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I can see are, like I said, all along a
lot of North Carolina listeners, and I'm not a surprise
they are unhappy with what the senator who's supposed to
represent them has done. Here we have Sean in Asheville,
North Carolina, where my some of my in laws live.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
What's going on, Sean, hey man, thank you for taking
my call, just you know, steal with Kevin from Helene here?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah? How is it? How is it there now?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Sorry to cut you off at how is it for
people in the Asheville area? How much support are you getting?
Is there enough help in the Trump era?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So far?
Speaker 7 (13:10):
I think it is is better now than initially. I mean,
the the first couple of weeks was like pure chaos.
No one was doing anything. My local town officials did
absolutely nothing. I mean we were without water like three weeks.
They had no distribution centers, they didn't come around with
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loud speakers in the police cars. And I live in
a very small town just north of Ashville, and none
of that was happening. But then things started to open
up a little bit better. It's been better since Trump
has gotten in. Actually have gotten some actual response from
FEMA after it came to light that maybe if you
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had a Trump sound in your yard that they you know,
they turn away. But I mean, as I look out
my front wind, I have a pile of root balls
because you can't haul those offer like two thousand pounds apiece.
I can't pick them up and get them down of
the roadway. And it's been you know, they keep saying, well,
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we'll get back to you if we can help you
with that. And I'm you know, thirty thousand dollars into
grading equipment trying to get these things out of here,
and still no help. So it's coming, but it's very slow.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Okay, Well, hopefully people are listening in the Trump team
and they are going to continue to give you guys resources.
But I wanted to know how things were going there.
Thank you for that feedback. Now, just wanted to tell
us also about Tom Tillis.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah, you know, and I've already called his office. I
have been a long time supporter of Tillis, but I
can't understand the logic. I mean, I'm not an attorney.
But my understanding is is that every every person is
in us to a proven guilty and they have the
right to legal counsel, which this attorney provided to them.
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I don't think it's the attorney's responsibility, and you guys
can straighten me out if I'm wrong. I don't think
that attorney has to decide, Oh, I can only represent
a person that's going to fall on this side or
that side. Their job is to represent that person to
the best of their abilities within the legal specifications and
the parameters. So yes, I don't know what he's knickers
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in a ward for, but I am certainly extremely disappointed,
and I've already called his office and let him know that,
you know, no more he must be. The only logic
I can come to is he's part of the swamp.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, thank you for the call. Is take a couple
more of these calls here in North Carolina. But you
and I, it just doesn't add up to me. And
this is why I would like him to come on
the show, would explain there has to be something else
other than this that is truly motivating the decision.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Remember remember when Mitt Romney was marching with a mask
on outside outside behind you with his mask on. He
was like, I'm here because Black Lives Matter. It's like, really, Mitt, really,
this is what it's come to with you. You're part
of the BLM march with your mask on?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Really? Yes, you know? And it turned out we learn
who Mitt Romney really was.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So yeah, no, I mean and maybe it's just that
Dave and Outer Banks, North Carolina, what's your take?
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Hey, great show, guys, Miss Rush, but you guys are
doing a great job. My take and Tillis, as I've
called his office. It took me two days to get through,
and I spoke to spoke to his one of those
people going to get a response. But I want to
remind you guys that the North Carolina Republican Party censored
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Tom Tillis in twenty twenty three for his banking of
g LGBTQ plus rights, immigration and gun violence palaces. He
was back in the red Flag law, and he was
against moving military funds military construction funds from that to
the building or of the border wall. We have never been,
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Tilli sends. My wife and I only voted for him
because President Trump backed him and said he had turned
a corner.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
Well, I think he's.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Going to turn around and has gone back to his
little ways. He doesn't show up at our conventions. He
never comes to the eastern portion of North Carolina, and
we're through with him.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Do you think you might get primaried.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
We're looking for somebody.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I figured you might be, well, you know, put up.
You're putting the word out to a lot of people
listening right now. I'm sure there's some exceptional patriot out
there in the state of North Carolina who may want
to give them better representation in the Senate. Sharon in Raleigh,
North Carolina, you're up next.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
And listened to your show, and I just wanted to
voice the same sentiments that the gentleman just basically stated.
Mister Tillis sends out emails to his constituents and ask
about how he's doing, how he wants to, you know,
how we think he needs to proceed. And I feel
like most everybody's probably given him the indication that we
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want him to support mister Trump. And as you stated earlier,
I think this is to do with the upcoming re
election issue, and I feel like he needs to reconsider
his position and I'm hoping I called him up the
message an not hear back from him, and I've also
told him, but I think he needs to call your show.
He needs to voice why he needs to stands this
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way if as constituents we need to understand. But what
you stated, it makes no sense basically because anybody that
supported Trump is aware of the January sixth issue, and
like you said, it really just doesn't It's not logical
for his decise.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It feels like it feels a bit sharing to me,
like moral preening or some kind of just vain show
voting maneuver. I don't get it. I mean, and maybe
he thinks it'll do better for him in re election somehow,
but that's a political calculation that I can't square. I
don't see that. So to me, it just feels like
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it just feels like really bad judgment. I think that's
the easiest way to put it. Thank you for calling in, Sharon.
We'll take one more here. Alan in eastern North Carolina.
What's going on?
Speaker 11 (19:29):
Yeah, I've always thought of Tom Tillis as a Rhino,
but I covered I used to work in the local
news here and I covered him when he was first
running for the Senate. At the time, it was held by
a Democrat. De seat, and so people were excited about him,
but he was.
Speaker 12 (19:46):
A John McCain, a Republican. John McCain came here and
campaign for him. And it just seems like ever since
he's been in there, he's been at opposition with Trump
on a lot of things. Even he changed his vote
on dozens of things.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It seems like, yeah, thank you, thank you. I just
don't get it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And again, open invite to Tom Tillis to come on
and explain this guy. Ed Martin is already the acting
director of the office, so he's already doing the job.
It feels personal to me. And sometimes senators have personal
conflicts with individuals that otherwise would be confirmed. That's not
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necessarily uncommon. But the rationale that he has provided so
far to me is not compelling as to why Ed
Martin shouldn't be able to get this job. And again,
this is a very important job when it comes to
who's in charge of justice in Washington, d C. He's
come in and tried to clean up the office. He's
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fired a bunch of people that he thinks are two
left wing in their prosecutorial bases.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I think here's a good data point to a into this.
They made damn sure that every J six K stayed
in the DC US Attorney's docket because they didn't want to.
They didn't want anam to get a fair trial. Yes, right,
So what does that tell you They knew that it
was like the legal wood chipper for anybody who had
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been been involved with Trump J six any of that. Well,
clearly there's a problem there when the when the weaponized
Justice Department, or rather when the weaponization of justice is
so consolidated that they clearly would rather have everybody who
was I think there was not a single change of
venue Clay was there. I'm not aware of a single
change of venue out of the District of Columbia. It
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was not almost because they knew, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They knew that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
It was just it was a an assembly line of
destroying and humiliating Trump voters who were at the Capitol
on January sixth. That was the whole point of what
the U. S. Attorney's Office was doing. And all the
people who got fired deserved it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And by the way, I said, and I still would
echo this, they need to give everybody who gets charged
with federal crimes the opportunity to take those cases to
their actual location that is your particular domicile. You shouldn't
be able to prosecute someone in Washington, d C. Without
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them being able to remove it federally to their local jurisdiction.
That to me, would be one way to try to
take away some of the power that Democrats have embedded
in the DC court system in general. But in the meantime,
here's a question for you, and maybe some of you
can find them. Did any nominee that Joe Biden put
forward not get confirmed by Democrats? Did this happen anywhere
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to Joe Biden? Did any major office in the Department
of Justice that Joe Biden wanted an appointment confirmed? Did
any Democrat senator stand up and say no, I won't
allow this. Elections this is when Barack Obama got right
have consequences. One of those consequences is the president should
get to pick the people that he wants to represent
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him in important offices.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I'm also gonna says I don't like this blue slip thing,
which I know Thoon has said he's going to.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
He's going to, you know, agree to.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
This is just when the Senate Judiciary Committee has this
practice of making sure that the senators in the home state,
they get a blue piece of paper to put their
opinion of the nominee on.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And so.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
You you know, why do we do this Because I'm
gonna tell you something. The Democrats get through their communist
left wing legislate from the bench people under the guise
of remember Tom Tillis voted for Merrick Garland.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I know it's like Merrick Garland is okay with me?
Aok Merrick. But this is the thing. We always get
screwed by this game of oh.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, we have this idea that there's gonna be a
you know, we're gonna cool things down with the blue
slip process. We should be you know, letting the freight
train loose here. We should not be slowing things down
for these Democrats, not now, not after what happened.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
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Speaker 2 (25:36):
I'm sending these two Producer Greg right now. I know
he is listening. I want to add this audio because
I think it kind of epitomizes how lost much of
our media has become. But I don't know how many
of you know this story, so let me give you
a little bit of background. Buck, you may or may
not know the story. Three years ago, uh Florida passed
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that don't say the so called don't say Gay bill
in the state of Florida. Disney sued and it turned
into a major cultural flashpoint, such that Live on air
on ESPN, which is owned by Disney, they paused to
have a moment of silence in allyship with LGBTQI people
(26:23):
who were upset by this.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Can I just also point out the media went full
throttle so that they could convince people the bill is
that parental Rights and Education bill. It's HB fifteen fifty seven,
correct parental rights and education. No where does it say
you can't say gay, and it's not even the name
of the bill. So it was a pure propaganda operation.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Completely accurate.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And I'm glad you brought that up because I was
gonna hammer this home because I think it has been
discussed recently as we've been talking about what books. Remember
they had the Supreme Court argument and even some people
on the left were like, man, that it's crazy that
you would be reading these books to kindergarteners. All the
Florida bill did, Ron Desantems one hundred percent right on this.
(27:09):
All the bill did was say there will be no
sex or gender instruction for kindergartener, first, second, third grade kids.
I would even argue, I've got a fourth grader, he's ten.
I think you could expand it probably to fourth and
fifth grade, two until a kid gets to puberty ish age.
(27:32):
Fifth grade, sixth grade I think is certainly early a
little bit, but at least that's in the vicinity of
when kids might become aware of puberty. Why in the
world would any public school need to be teaching gender,
sex based in any way issues to classrooms.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Well, you know, it's it's a question that we actually
have to keep answering, right, it's not a rhetorical question.
Why do they want to do this because it's a
doctrinate because it actually goes to the core ideology, the
core of the ideology they're trying to present, which is
that and this it does not make sense. But a
lot of things don't make sense that people ardently believe, right,
(28:14):
you know, democrats think socialism is going to work this
time anyway. A lot of things don't make sense. But
one of them is that doctors get the gender of
the baby wrong. And so it starts from the very
youngest age that somehow they can like reverse bioengineer this,
and they need to get people as young as possible
(28:37):
because otherwise it's too clear that this is a choice
or this is a psychological condition that develops as you
get older. They want this to be it is like
it is like skin color. It is an immutable thing
that you must understand. Is a is you know, a
person is that way and there's no change again, and
(28:59):
so we must all respected equally.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It is not like skin color as we know.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It is in fact, not a physical manifestation at all,
even though there are people who are intersex, but that
is not what transgenderism is.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And now we get to why they want.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
To push it so early, and why they want to
push it on such young kids, because Clay in their
mind also, this is not about sex. This is about
civil rights. This is a civil rights issue. This is
like training anti racism into second graders.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Well, we got an audio clip for that, but I
think many people don't know this happens. So the reason
why I'm bringing it up today is Disney has announced
this morning that they are going to be building a
brand new theme park, New Disney World, Disneyland, whatever it is,
in Abu Dhabi, and in Abu Dhabi in the country
(29:52):
of the UAE. I believe you're better at geography than me.
I looked it up. In the UAE, you can be
beheaded if you are gay. So not exactly an expansive
view of human sexuality in the UAE. In the UAE,
you could probably say gay, but then you might be beheaded, yes,
(30:13):
the bad part. Okay, So over this Florida bill, which,
as Buck Rightley points out, was misattributed to a don't
say gay bill, it just said kindergarten, first second, third
graders can't be gender instructed Disney, and I don't think
this got enough.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Tension, which owns ESPN.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They had a moment of silence live on the air
during a women's basketball game.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is l Duncan.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I have tagged her on Twitter to ask when we
should expect the moment of silence over the new theme
park that Disney is opening an Abu Dhabi. But listen
to what you could have tuned in just to watch
a women's college basketball game on ESPN. This is what
you would have heard. This is what they did over
the Florida Bill. Listen Cut twenty.
Speaker 14 (31:01):
Six legislation happening in Florida and across other states as
well that are targeting our LGBTQI plus communities. Many of
our colleagues here at ESPN have planned and organized a
walkout that will be happening at three pm Eastern today.
And to be honest with you, we thought we were
going to come here today and really celebrate a sport
that has meant so much and done so much, including
(31:23):
for so many in the LGBTQI plus communities. But we
understand the gravity of this legislation and also how it
is affecting so many families across this country. And because
of that, our allyship is going to take a front seat,
and with that, we're going to pause in solidarity.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Okay, I'm going to play another cut for you that
I've had them introduced Buck. This is during the women's
NCAA basketball tournament you tune it in. It was South
Carolina and Howard are playing. You are a parent and
you're like, hey, I want to watch this basketball game
with my little girl or my little boy.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You put on sports. That is what you saw. Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
This was their reaction to the Florida Bill. Now Disney
is building a theme park in Abu Dhabi where theoretically
you could be beheaded if you are gay. What is
the necessity that ESPN must undertake here? Now, Buck, first off,
do we need to do a fact finding mission? Is
this going to be like clan Buck's excellent Abu Dhabi adventure?
Do we have to show up to this new Is
(32:24):
Minnie Mouse going to be wearing a Burco?
Speaker 9 (32:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
How does this go? It's a fabulous question. And let
me say this.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I don't begrudge companies that are global in nature deciding
to try and reach the largest global audience. What I
am opposed to is when you wag your finger and
lecture all of us in America and then your company
engages in behavior which is far worse than what you
(32:52):
are complaining about occurring here, and you are shut up
and you say nothing at all about it.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, what you see is with the the ideology of
the left in America. It's all about power dynamics and
who they think they can bully, and in this country
they can bully, particularly what they view as a as
a predominantly Christian and majority white, although you know it's
(33:19):
not not a huge majority. But they think that they
can bully them as much as they possibly want to
do absolutely anything that they want, and we may comply,
like we might actually just completely. That's why the gender thing,
for example, matters so much to them, because if they
can get us to say that, you know what, that
six foot eight, two hundred and fifty pound dude who
thinks he's a woman because he grew his hair a
(33:40):
little long, hasn't gotten a haircut in a while and
is dunking on all the chicks on the basketball court
and scoring one hundred and forty points a game. That's good.
That's civil rights, that's progress. If they can make us
do that, they can make us do absolutely anything. But
they know that they can't actually pull this stuff off.
Clay in China, they can't pull it off. In the
Middle East, they can't pull it off. In Africa, they
(34:02):
can't pull off the wokeness routine in countries or and
or continents where overwhelmingly it's one non white and two
it's gonna be rejected. They're gonna say no, that's crazy
to us. So well, the whole thing is a scam.
They don't actually mean what they say on the left. Okay,
this is even crazier, Buck, This is the game itself.
(34:23):
So I just played the introduction of ESPN saying we're
gonna have a moment of silence.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
This is the game broadcasters. I've never seen or heard
this happen anywhere. This is on ESPN's broadcast. You are
sitting down to watch South Carolina Howard women's college basketball tournament.
And this is what the two game broadcasters said right
after L. Duncan tossed it to them. While the game
(34:50):
is going on itself. Listen to cut twenty seven Cortey.
Speaker 15 (34:53):
Lyle Carrolin pac Now. Normally at this time we would
take a look back at the first half, but there
are things bigger than basketball that need to be a
dressed at this time. Our friends, our family, our co workers,
the players and coaches in our community are hurting right now,
and at three o'clock, about eight minutes ago, our LGBTQIA
plus teammates at Disney ask for our solidarity and support,
(35:17):
including our companies support in opposition to the Parental Rights
in Education bill in the state of Florida and similar
legislature across the United States.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
And a threat to any human rights is a thread
to all human rights. Today, at this time, Courtney and I,
we're going to take a pause from our broadcast to
show our love and support for our friends, our families,
and our colleagues.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
The game is going on right now, and that's the
way it can you believe.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I don't think this.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Got enough attention when it happened. This was a couple
of years ago. But this morning, when I saw the
Abu Dhabi news, I couldn't help but think, well, this
is interesting, right if you're so opposed to the Florida bill,
which buck you rightly pointed out, all it did was
say kindergarten, first, second third graders were not gonna instruct
(36:11):
an education related to sex, wasn't gay, trans anything else,
which overwhelming majorities of parents support, And that was their
reaction to the Florida bill. Well, now they're building an
entire theme park in a country that believes gay people
should be beheaded. And I just think it illustrates the
depths of the hypocrisy that there will not be a
(36:34):
sentilla of noise that comes out of ESPN over this
Disney corporate decision.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I mean, you're talking about gay people, but what do
you think, how do you think it goes for you?
And Abi Abu Dhabi? If you walk around and you're like, no,
I'm actually a they, I don't think it's what there's
the authorities. I don't think first of all, it's an
authoritarian state. They detain people, they torture people to do
whatever they want. I mean, it's a nice place to visit.
If you're an American or European, you got a lot
of money, Just don't step out of line at all,
(37:00):
and don't talk about politics to anybody.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, I mean you think you walk.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Around, you're like, you know, my name, my name is
in Steve, it's actually Sally, and like you have to
use the preferred pronouns. I don't even know what they
would do with you, but it would be really bad.
They would not like imply the gaze for Gaza. They
would definitely take you for a tour of their of
their upper deck and then the of the of the
rooftop and then they would throw you off of it. Well,
you know, the American left is is unseerious about on
(37:27):
a global scale, l g B, t Q, I A
plus rights. Uh, because they just the Muslim world by
and large is allowed to do whatever they want and
with with almost no with no protests, no nothing. They'll
never even leftists in America won't even say that.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The the mother load.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Of oppression when it comes to gender and lgbt U,
t Q and all that the mother load of I mean,
the real is the Islamic world. They will never talk
about that.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
By the way, as a guy who isn't really as
you point out a lot diehard sports fan, can you
believe that that exists, that that audio on a sports
broadcast network, that that video, that that would have even occurred?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Does that just blow your mind? It blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Even though I know how crazy these people are, the
fact that happens still blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I think a lot of sports viewers, which.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I can't speak to, be one much, you know, but
I think that Clay, they just get They're just used
to just tuning. It's like when actors used to give
their opinions on things, and I'm like, I just want
to see your movie.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
If it's good, just shut up. I don't want.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I feel like a lot of sports viewers have gotten
used to and maybe now this is changing.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
All right.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
They're doing some you know, idiotic thing and oh like,
what are we going to do? And now just show
me my sports? You know they tune it out.
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You don't know, What's you don't know? Right on the
Sunday Hang With podcast.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
And we are joined by Raymond Arroyo of Fox News,
and he comes to us from Rome itself, where we
know the next Pope is being chosen by the conclave.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Raymond, great to have you back on the program.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
Oh, always enjoyed being with you guys. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's appreciated.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
With traffic here.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh yeah, Well, well, we're sorry to take you away
from some delicious nyuki and I'm sure a cappuccino with
perfect froth. But what is going what is going on
here with the whole process to choose the next pope
the leader of the Catholic flock?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Take take us.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Into everything You're you're finding out everything that's going on
because a lot of people, I'm just gonna say this, Raymond,
even some of the Catholics listening don't know that much
about the process itself and what's going on here.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
Well, it's a mysterious process and that's part of the fun.
And look for non Catholics, I said this morning Daryalla
Coverage at Fox, this is the root of Christianity. Whether
you're a Lutheran, Episcopalian, Evangelical, or Catholic, the fact is,
if you believe in Jesus Christ. The mass that these
cardinals held today was right over the tomb of Saint Peter,
(41:16):
which in the fifties they dug up the basement of
Saint Peter's and found the first of all, there's another
church down there. There's a third century Constantine basilica beneath it,
and then beneath that is a graveyard like an above
ground cemetery like we have in New Orleans, and they
found the bones of Saint Peter there. So it is
upon the bones of Saint Peter where the mass was
held today to choose the successor of Saint Peter two
(41:40):
thousand plus years later. I mean, it's a kind of
incredible thing when you step back and look at it.
So one hundred and thirty three men from something like
eighty different countries went into this conclave just this afternoon
here in Rome a few hours ago. And this is
an ancient tradition. And the beautiful thing about Christianity is
through the ages, through the millennia, all these little rituals
(42:02):
are picked up in traditions, practices, and devotions, and the
Catholic Church has a wonderful way of kind of preserving
them and pushing them into the future. The conclave practice,
this all started because in about twelve seventy four they
couldn't elect a pope. It took the conclave was dragging
on for three years. They couldn't make a decision, so
(42:22):
I think it was polled. Gregory the tenth decided to
lock the cardinals in a private place with no contact
with the outside world, Deprive them all of that nolchi
and cappuccino you mentioned earlier, no food for them, and
kind of made them uncomfortable. So they would come to
a decision, and they did so that became the new
rule of electing a pope. It went into seclusion. It
(42:44):
was kind of like a retreat. It wasn't It was
spartan and it kind of forced them to focus on
the thing at hand. That's what we're watching now. One
hundred and thirty three cardinals are going to choose one
of their own, but it could be any baptized Catholic
male to be the vote, and they're in the Sistine
Chapel now. In fact, we're expecting smoke any minute.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Now.
Speaker 9 (43:04):
My guess is first ballot is usually black, meaning you
don't have a pope white smoke you probably won't see
until Friday at the earliest of I think it could
drag on longer.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, that's the question I was going to ask you, Raymon,
and thank you for joining us from the Vatican City.
As the pope is being selected, what is the expectation
you said Friday you think will know? How does the
vote process take place? I think they're doing one What
is it about seven pm or eight pm? I guess
in Rome right now they're doing one vote. They're doing
(43:39):
one this afternoon, and then how will it work there's
a vote every morning or multiple votes every morning and
every afternoon going forward. What should we expect assuming they
don't pick one now.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Yeah, they only do one vote. On the first day
of conclave. They went in, they prayed, they all did
their odes, they sat down, got to kind of know
the process. Took a vote around four o'clock. They're counting it.
They have six people that count the vote claim, which
is unbelievable. They three of them scrutinize it, make sure
the vot's authentic, nobody forged the signature or dropped too
many votes in. Then the other guys double check it,
(44:10):
and then it's red. It's read aloud. So you can
imagine how long that takes with one hundred and thirty
three people. But at seven seven point thirty, they start
lighting up the stoves. They take those ballots to burn them,
and that's where the black or the white smoke comes.
Tomorrow and the days that succeed, there'll be two votes
in the morning, two votes in the evening in the afternoon,
so you'll get two smoke stacks going up to indicate
(44:33):
whether or not they've come to a decision. But when
you've got one hundred and thirty three guys who don't
know each other. You see, Cardinals used to meet every year,
the College of Cardinals would meet. Pope Francis ten years
ago had a conference on the family where he wanted
to do some wacky things and the cardinals started talking
back to him. He didn't like that, so he canceled
the annual meeting of a college of cardinals. They haven't
(44:56):
met in ten years, and he appointed one hundred and
eight of the one hundred thirty three men in this conclave.
So they literally don't know each other, haven't met each other,
and they don't know each other's concerns. So the last
week or so twelve days has been about getting to
know each other and figuring out what they believe is
the next step to the church. And it's a battle
(45:16):
someone to continue the Francis line, which is more progressive,
you know, focused on kind of loosening the bounds of
the doctrine, dispensing with the things of the past. And
then you have the other block that wants tradition or
return to eternal values, back to basics, and get rid
of some of the chaos and the lack of clarity
we've seen over the last twelve years. And we'll see
(45:37):
who comes out the winner here.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
The fact well, that's works where I wanted to go
next with you Raymore speaking of Raymond and Royal from
Fox News. He is in Rome right now, covering the
conclave very closely, and we're going to be finding out
about a.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
New pope here. You said, what by Friday? Probably so
couple of more days.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (45:55):
If it goes to Saturday, we're in trouble because that's
a day of pause in the car the constitution, if
you do three d days of voting, you don't have
a pope. But they have to pause for a day
and pray and meditate, which means voting would resume on Sunday.
I hope that's not the case because I'm leaving on Sunday.
I'll watch them.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well, I was gonna say, I mean it could be
you know, you could be on the India Pakistan border
or something right now, right, I mean, you know tough,
it's not such tough duty. You know you're gonna be
on a vespa. You're going to be seeing the site.
It would be very nice.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
But tell me tell me this feel aroundemy.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Some of the top options that are being discussed. I
hear a lot about a cardinal Sarah. Tell me some
of the top contenders right now. And you know you
got into this a little bit, but what some of
the different directions would be based upon who some of
those top candidates are for the church.
Speaker 9 (46:43):
Well, you know, I have a podcast and we've been
doing this every day daily reports. It's a Royal Grande
show on YouTube. And I have this conclave crew and
it's a priest and a historian and three of us
kind of go through all the gossip we heard that
day and the candidates. So that's at a Royal Grande
show on YouTube. And some of the people we discussed.
There's a Cardinal tag Lay from the Philippines. He's kind
(47:05):
of an Asian Pope. Francis happier, more buoyant, but he's
the same line. He believes that Vatican two, the more
modern approach, is the way to go, and that we
should loosen some of these moral bonds on whether it
be marriage or the LGBT community. He liked to see
a more open approach. You have a Cardinal Paroline. Now,
(47:28):
this guy is the Secretary of State at the Vatican.
He's the guy who drafted the China Deal, the hidden
China Vatican Deal, which literally handed faithful Catholics and not
only Catholics Bible churches, but tons of people over faithful
people to the chicoms. They rounded them up. They've shut
down churches the Vatican. Why they got into this deal,
(47:50):
no one can figure. They also allowed the Chinese to
choose their bishops, two of which they appointed after the
Pope died. Okay, So Cardinal Peroline is a guy with
a lot of clouds over his record that will probably
damn his candidacy. He's also involved in a lot of
financial chicaner here a four hundred million dollar land deal
(48:10):
that went belly up in London, so he will probably
not make it out of the gate. But he's the
number one liberal candidate, if you will, the progressive candidate
to continue Francis's legacy. On the other side, Cardinal Robert Sarah,
who you mentioned, a priest from Nigeria, an incredible man.
Both of his parents were converts, an African cardinal who
(48:34):
headed up the liturgy office at the Holy See and
got into problems with Pope Francis over the old Latin Mass,
which France has outlawed. Cardinal Robert Sarah did not want
that to happen, so Francis booted him out. He's a
huge favorite of the more traditional cardinals. I think though,
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at the end of the day, you need somebody who
can both reform this bureaucracy, clean up the financial problems
the church is broke here, that's the reality, and revived
the faith in a winning way. I keep looking at
a man I know, I've known him for twenty five years,
Cardinal Pierre Baptista Pizza Bala. Try saying that's four times fast.
Pizza Bala is the Jerusalem patriarch. He's a Franciscan, He's
(49:19):
lived in the Holy Land for thirty five years, a
sturdy man from the farming country in northern Italy, but
a prayerful man who believes the Word of God should
be the center of our lives. And he's cleaned up
all the financial problems there and navigated this landmine of
Israel and the Palestinians. And when, in fact, when Hamas
(49:41):
took those hostages, he offered his life in exchange for
the hostages. That will, I think tip the balance for
him if they need a compromise candidate. It's kind of
like Trump getting shot in Butler that was the end
of the campaign. I feel that way about Pizza Bala
as well.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
All right, so this is maybe going to damn me too.
A ternal flames here, But you can you can bet
on who the next pope is going to be. And Raymond,
I don't know if you've paid attention to this, but
here are you just mentioned?
Speaker 9 (50:12):
It's excommunicable. We can't do it, but that others can't
but we can't. It's literally an excommunical crime if you
bet on the on the papacy. Do you know that?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Oh? Do you really?
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Clay was trying to get me excommunicated, Raymond. He wanted
me to be a heathen.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
All right, well then, you guys, I'm here to save you.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I'm not Catholic, so I can't be excommunicated here. So
I'm going to tell you the favorites according to the
gambling market.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
There's still time, There's still time. Okay, Well then I
might be ending that forever.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Now the Southern Baptist can be happy because I'm shutting
the door on being Catholic. Here are the four favorites
according to polymarket right now, Pietro, Perilyn and I'm probably
going to mispronounce the names, but you said you thought
he was Yeah, you you three of these names. That's
that's what I was impressed by. It says that you
(51:04):
think he's got too many scandals. In his background. Tagol
Or Tagola nineteen point yep, Tagli, you know you mentioned
Pizza Bella, who was the individual you were just talking about.
He's the fourth most likely, the only one you didn't mention.
I'm going to put you on the spot here, Mateo,
(51:25):
Zoopy or Zuppy, what do you know about him? If anything,
he's third most likelyto Mateo.
Speaker 9 (51:31):
Zupi is an Italian cardinal, very much in line with
the Pope France's vision of things. He's a liberal, He's
been very open to the LGBT community. Look, Clay, when
you have young people, we just saw this at Easter,
and Buck will back me up on this. Young people
are flooding into the Catholic Church, not only cathol Church,
other Communists too, but particularly the Catholic Church. And it's
(51:52):
young men because they've they've found their way into the
faith through the Internet and reading, and they're looking for
something eternal, inc the truth of Christ and the Gospel.
I don't think you're going to get that from a
guy like Zoopie or Tagle, who basically pushing a line
that we just have to be more like the world
and less like the apostles. You want an apostle. So
(52:13):
my guess is, if I were a betting man, and
I'm not because I don't want to get excommunicated, I
would put my money on somebody like Pizza Bala, because
I think both the right and the left candidates are
going to go down and they're going to need a compromise,
and that guy's story is so compelling, I think it
might just win the day.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Outstanding stuff, Raymond for coming right to us from the
Vatican City. If there are immediate results or something like that,
don't hesitate to call us back in if you were
there in the Vatican City to report live.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
I'd love to have you on next couple of days
if that happens.
Speaker 9 (52:47):
Yeah, call me anytime.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
I'm here.
Speaker 9 (52:49):
I'll be smokestack watching until I hope Friday and then
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Thing, isn't that basically, And I'm gonna probably get religious
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Eighth decided that he wanted to get married and they
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that basically the existence of that faith? Yes, that is
the history. That is the history of the Church of England.
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Not a good dude. So so that.
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Is the founding history of the Church of England. That's
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Yeah, the Church of England is always headed by the
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
I was really.
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Pleased to hear him explain he's not opposed to all tariffs,
but he doesn't think that blankets harrif's you. He wants
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work is being done. We want to tell you about that.
The administration wants to tell you about that. But we
also sometimes have to have a conversation when someone on
our team, so to speak, Team Republican comes up way
short and Clay and I have been looking into looking
into what's happened here with Senator Tillis in North Carolina.
(01:28):
We have a lot of North Carolina listeners. He made
it clear yesterday that he would not support ed Martin,
who was Donald Trump's nominee for US Attorney for Washington, DC.
And so essentially he went and said, I will not
I will not go forward with this. I will not
be willing to support Tom Tillis is not willing to
(01:49):
support Trump's US attorney for DC. This is a really
important position. This is not just something that is another
US attorney. Some US attorneys are more important than others
in terms of the kinds of cases politically that they handle.
But Clay, before we dive into this, this is what
Senator Tillis, a Republican mind, you had to say about
(02:11):
why he will not allow Ed Martin Trump's nominee no
longer former nominee.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I guess for US Attorney d C. Play two.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been
in prison for some period of time. Whether it thirty
days or three years is debatable.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the
building on January the sixth, and that's probably where most
of the friction was. Mister Martin did a good job
of explaining how there were people that probably got caught
up in it, but they made the stupid decision to
come through a building that had been breached and that
the police officers and others were saying stay away.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So the difference wasn't that they should be charged in
my estimation, it's by how much. That's an argument I'm
willing to have. But we have to be very very
clear that what happened on January the sixth was wrong.
It was not prompted are created by other people to
put those people in trouble. They made a stupid decision,
and they disgraced the United States.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I've never heard Tom Tillis speak this angrily about anything
else with this kind of force. I am so ticked
off by this Clay. He's saying that that basically taking
the position that because ed Martin worked as an attorney, Right,
we all know about what happened with John Adams and
the British and the Boston massacre and defense Edmond worked
(03:30):
as an attorney on behalf of j six people who
were treated horrifically unfairly by the system, and now we
have a Republican senator blocking him from being US attorney
Trump's pick in the maybe the most important seed in
all of DC, in all of the country.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I think it's unacceptable and I don't even know
we've reached out. We should say to Tom Tillis's office. Yeah,
I want him on the show. I want him on
the show. I want to have it out with him
on this January they needed to be punished more severely. Well, look,
I've donated money to the Defense Fund for January sixth defendants.
We've had Julie Kelly on the show probably more than
(04:10):
almost any single guest.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Tom Tillis would say, you shouldn't be able to be
a US attorney play anywhere in the country, even though
you're a lawyer and you know a lot of excellent
things about you.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We don't have to get into that right that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But yeah, look, I mean I think that Tom Tillis
should come on the show. We have extended an invite
to him to explain this decision, and I'll just kind
of continue to hammer my perspective on this. President won
a victory landslide. Every all fifty states moved more conservative.
(04:41):
He won all seven battleground states, including North Carolina, by
a substantial amount. I'm confident that Trump is more popular
in North Carolina than Tillis is. And this particular appointment,
as you just laid out, is very important relative to
the power that it yields. Trump is making Washington, d c.
(05:03):
Better in conjunction honestly with Muriel Bowser, who showed up
for the White House event announcing that the draft would
be taking place there, Buck, I was just up in
a couple months ago. I'm gonna be up. You're going
to be up in June. I was just up two
weeks ago. I think that that DC is and you
(05:24):
lived there. I went to college there. We spent a
lot of time in the over the past several decades there.
They are making it safer, they are starting to put
violent criminals in prison.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But make no mistake.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
When Joe Biden came into office, they decided through the
US Attorney's Office in DC, that they were going to
drop almost all serious felony charges of a violent nature
to misdemeanors, except they were going to elevate a lot
of misdemeanors related to January sixth to felonies. So was
it just that they went soft on crime. It's that
(05:59):
in this per particular office, they went soft on crime
on actual danger that people faced in the day to
day lives in DC, while drastically over punishing people who
found themselves in any way affiliated with January sixth.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Some as you pointed out, then we pointed on the.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Show, just people who walked inside open doors grandmas with
selfie sticks were being put in solitary confinement, being locked
up for potentially years, and a DC gulag, and nobody
talked about it. This appointment is very important. The idea
that Tillis would be saying, oh, January sixth was somehow Look,
(06:37):
I'm not defending January six but in the context of
how BLM rioters and protesters were treated for months, January
sixth was very different. Treatment in DC and other places
and we need some semblance of justice to return. I
think that this is an easy decision. Ed Martin should
be in and I think it's shameful that there would
(06:57):
be a Republican senator stopping it from happening. Frankly, I
know that North Carolina is a competitive state, and people
will make the argument, oh, well, maybe Tillis.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Is you know the best we can do. No, it's
not Maine.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You can do better than Tom Tillis, because this is
a guy who doesn't know what time it is, doesn't understand,
or I should say, lacks the courage to be in
the fight the way that he needs to be right now.
His problem, apparently with Ed Martin is that as an
interim US Attorney, Martin opened up an investigation into the
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DC hand la DC US Attorney's office handling of J
six cases, and there were some federal prosecutors who were
fired during during that you know, that period, and I
think it all should have been fired. I think that
using your office to destroy American citizens to make some
(07:50):
kind of political point when they haven't done anything bad
or really bad, you know, depends on who we're talking
about here, right, Yeah, I mean, am I pro trust passing. No,
I'm not pro trespassing. I think you could get a fine.
You know, it depends on who. Now are you able
to punch cops in the face and get away with it? No,
(08:11):
unless you're a Democrat Biden voter, then it's okay to
punch cops in the face.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You just have to say you're doing it. For George Floyd, we.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Have all seen the way that this game was played
and we are furious about it. And I think what
Tom tillis to me, Clay, this is like somebody who
was you know, supported like faucyite vaccine mandates. This is
a one and done for me. To stand in the
way of a of a solid choice from the Trump
(08:38):
administration to clean up the obvious weaponization of the DCUs
Attorney's office is outrageous. It's cowardly. And I just hope
that people we got a lot of North Carolina listeners.
I hope they remember. I hope they spread the word
you can do better than Tom tillis some of the worst.
Hat tip our friend Jesse Kelly on this. He's totally right.
(08:59):
The war Republican betrayals of the base come from Republicans
who are in red and sometimes very red states.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yes, and they get away with it. I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I mean it's partly because when you get elected, people
don't really pay attention to what you do.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
This is the truth.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
When you win in a red state, and Jesse's been
on this for a while, primary turnout it's almost non existent.
We'll see what happens in the state of Texas because
there is probably going to be a huge red state
primary battle between John Cornyn and Ken Paxton, and we
will see how exactly that all shakes out. But I
(09:39):
think there may well be Tellis challengers in North Carolina.
And I just for the life of me, I don't
understand how in the world this could have occurred, which
is why we've offered him an opportunity to come on.
It feels buck to me, very personal, as if there
is something that is not being said public that actually
(10:01):
is motivating this privately. Does that make sense to you
because arguing, hey, he was too lenient on Jan six
protesters and therefore I can't support him to be US
attorney when he's otherwise very well qualified doesn't add right.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's you have to look at this from the perspective
of a quizzling and it's not smart for the quizzling
to do this unless there's something where you unless he
thinks that he's going to be able to just edge things.
He's up for reelection in twenty six So but I
don't think anyone is.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I don't think anyone cares.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
About uh, you know, like, I don't think this would
be a strike against it with any Republican in North
Carolina or even independent voters.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I don't understand how that would be even for his
own political viability. This doesn't add up to me because
it doesn't seem to me to be a significant enough
issue that it would motivate turnout either way.
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Speaker 3 (12:12):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck calling out
Senator Tillis, we're blocking Trump's former now that's been withdrawn
nominee for the US Attorney. He was interim US Attorney
in DC and they wanted to get him voted in
on a permanent basis, and Tillis said, nope, you're too
nice to j six defendants to Ed Martin.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
And so here here we are.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I can see are, like I said, all along a
lot of North Carolina listeners, and I'm not a surprise
they are unhappy with what the senator who's supposed to
represent them has done. Here we have Sean in Asheville,
North Carolina, where my some of my in laws live.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
What's going on, Sean, hey man, thank you for taking
my call, just you know, steal with Kevin from Helene here?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah? How is it? How is it there now?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Sorry to cut you off at how is it for
people in the Asheville area? How much support are you getting?
Is there enough help in the Trump era?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So far?
Speaker 7 (13:10):
I think it is is better now than initially. I mean,
the the first couple of weeks was like pure chaos.
No one was doing anything. My local town officials did
absolutely nothing. I mean we were without water like three weeks.
They had no distribution centers, they didn't come around with
(13:33):
loud speakers in the police cars. And I live in
a very small town just north of Ashville, and none
of that was happening. But then things started to open
up a little bit better. It's been better since Trump
has gotten in. Actually have gotten some actual response from
FEMA after it came to light that maybe if you
(13:53):
had a Trump sound in your yard that they you know,
they turn away. But I mean, as I look out
my front wind, I have a pile of root balls
because you can't haul those offer like two thousand pounds apiece.
I can't pick them up and get them down of
the roadway. And it's been you know, they keep saying, well,
(14:15):
we'll get back to you if we can help you
with that. And I'm you know, thirty thousand dollars into
grading equipment trying to get these things out of here,
and still no help. So it's coming, but it's very slow.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Okay, Well, hopefully people are listening in the Trump team
and they are going to continue to give you guys resources.
But I wanted to know how things were going there.
Thank you for that feedback. Now, just wanted to tell
us also about Tom Tillis.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
Yeah, you know, and I've already called his office. I
have been a long time supporter of Tillis, but I
can't understand the logic. I mean, I'm not an attorney.
But my understanding is is that every every person is
in us to a proven guilty and they have the
right to legal counsel, which this attorney provided to them.
(15:08):
I don't think it's the attorney's responsibility, and you guys
can straighten me out if I'm wrong. I don't think
that attorney has to decide, Oh, I can only represent
a person that's going to fall on this side or
that side. Their job is to represent that person to
the best of their abilities within the legal specifications and
the parameters. So yes, I don't know what he's knickers
(15:32):
in a ward for, but I am certainly extremely disappointed,
and I've already called his office and let him know that,
you know, no more he must be. The only logic
I can come to is he's part of the swamp.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, thank you for the call. Is take a couple
more of these calls here in North Carolina. But you
and I, it just doesn't add up to me. And
this is why I would like him to come on
the show, would explain there has to be something else
other than this that is truly motivating the decision.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Remember remember when Mitt Romney was marching with a mask
on outside outside behind you with his mask on. He
was like, I'm here because Black Lives Matter. It's like, really, Mitt, really,
this is what it's come to with you. You're part
of the BLM march with your mask on?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Really? Yes, you know? And it turned out we learn
who Mitt Romney really was.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So yeah, no, I mean and maybe it's just that
Dave and Outer Banks, North Carolina, what's your take?
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Hey, great show, guys, Miss Rush, but you guys are
doing a great job. My take and Tillis, as I've
called his office. It took me two days to get through,
and I spoke to spoke to his one of those
people going to get a response. But I want to
remind you guys that the North Carolina Republican Party censored
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Tom Tillis in twenty twenty three for his banking of
g LGBTQ plus rights, immigration and gun violence palaces. He
was back in the red Flag law, and he was
against moving military funds military construction funds from that to
the building or of the border wall. We have never been,
(17:14):
Tilli sends. My wife and I only voted for him
because President Trump backed him and said he had turned
a corner.
Speaker 9 (17:22):
Well, I think he's.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Going to turn around and has gone back to his
little ways. He doesn't show up at our conventions. He
never comes to the eastern portion of North Carolina, and
we're through with him.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Do you think you might get primaried.
Speaker 9 (17:38):
We're looking for somebody.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I figured you might be, well, you know, put up.
You're putting the word out to a lot of people
listening right now. I'm sure there's some exceptional patriot out
there in the state of North Carolina who may want
to give them better representation in the Senate. Sharon in Raleigh,
North Carolina, you're up next.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
And listened to your show, and I just wanted to
voice the same sentiments that the gentleman just basically stated.
Mister Tillis sends out emails to his constituents and ask
about how he's doing, how he wants to, you know,
how we think he needs to proceed. And I feel
like most everybody's probably given him the indication that we
(18:20):
want him to support mister Trump. And as you stated earlier,
I think this is to do with the upcoming re
election issue, and I feel like he needs to reconsider
his position and I'm hoping I called him up the
message an not hear back from him, and I've also
told him, but I think he needs to call your show.
He needs to voice why he needs to stands this
(18:43):
way if as constituents we need to understand. But what
you stated, it makes no sense basically because anybody that
supported Trump is aware of the January sixth issue, and
like you said, it really just doesn't It's not logical
for his decise.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It feels like it feels a bit sharing to me,
like moral preening or some kind of just vain show
voting maneuver. I don't get it. I mean, and maybe
he thinks it'll do better for him in re election somehow,
but that's a political calculation that I can't square. I
don't see that. So to me, it just feels like
(19:19):
it just feels like really bad judgment. I think that's
the easiest way to put it. Thank you for calling in, Sharon.
We'll take one more here. Alan in eastern North Carolina.
What's going on?
Speaker 11 (19:29):
Yeah, I've always thought of Tom Tillis as a Rhino,
but I covered I used to work in the local
news here and I covered him when he was first
running for the Senate. At the time, it was held by
a Democrat. De seat, and so people were excited about him,
but he was.
Speaker 12 (19:46):
A John McCain, a Republican. John McCain came here and
campaign for him. And it just seems like ever since
he's been in there, he's been at opposition with Trump
on a lot of things. Even he changed his vote
on dozens of things.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
It seems like, yeah, thank you, thank you. I just
don't get it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
And again, open invite to Tom Tillis to come on
and explain this guy. Ed Martin is already the acting
director of the office, so he's already doing the job.
It feels personal to me. And sometimes senators have personal
conflicts with individuals that otherwise would be confirmed. That's not
(20:31):
necessarily uncommon. But the rationale that he has provided so
far to me is not compelling as to why Ed
Martin shouldn't be able to get this job. And again,
this is a very important job when it comes to
who's in charge of justice in Washington, d C. He's
come in and tried to clean up the office. He's
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fired a bunch of people that he thinks are two
left wing in their prosecutorial bases.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
I think here's a good data point to a into this.
They made damn sure that every J six K stayed
in the DC US Attorney's docket because they didn't want to.
They didn't want anam to get a fair trial. Yes, right,
So what does that tell you They knew that it
was like the legal wood chipper for anybody who had
(21:19):
been been involved with Trump J six any of that. Well,
clearly there's a problem there when the when the weaponized
Justice Department, or rather when the weaponization of justice is
so consolidated that they clearly would rather have everybody who
was I think there was not a single change of
venue Clay was there. I'm not aware of a single
change of venue out of the District of Columbia. It
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was not almost because they knew, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They knew that.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
It was just it was a an assembly line of
destroying and humiliating Trump voters who were at the Capitol
on January sixth. That was the whole point of what
the U. S. Attorney's Office was doing. And all the
people who got fired deserved it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And by the way, I said, and I still would
echo this, they need to give everybody who gets charged
with federal crimes the opportunity to take those cases to
their actual location that is your particular domicile. You shouldn't
be able to prosecute someone in Washington, d C. Without
(22:17):
them being able to remove it federally to their local jurisdiction.
That to me, would be one way to try to
take away some of the power that Democrats have embedded
in the DC court system in general. But in the meantime,
here's a question for you, and maybe some of you
can find them. Did any nominee that Joe Biden put
forward not get confirmed by Democrats? Did this happen anywhere
(22:42):
to Joe Biden? Did any major office in the Department
of Justice that Joe Biden wanted an appointment confirmed? Did
any Democrat senator stand up and say no, I won't
allow this. Elections this is when Barack Obama got right
have consequences. One of those consequences is the president should
get to pick the people that he wants to represent
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him in important offices.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
I'm also gonna says I don't like this blue slip thing,
which I know Thoon has said he's going to.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
He's going to, you know, agree to.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
This is just when the Senate Judiciary Committee has this
practice of making sure that the senators in the home state,
they get a blue piece of paper to put their
opinion of the nominee on.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And so.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
You you know, why do we do this Because I'm
gonna tell you something. The Democrats get through their communist
left wing legislate from the bench people under the guise
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Speaker 1 (23:46):
I know it's like Merrick Garland is okay with me?
Aok Merrick. But this is the thing. We always get
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Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well, we have this idea that there's gonna be a
you know, we're gonna cool things down with the blue
slip process. We should be you know, letting the freight
train loose here. We should not be slowing things down
for these Democrats, not now, not after what happened.
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Speaker 2 (25:36):
I'm sending these two Producer Greg right now. I know
he is listening. I want to add this audio because
I think it kind of epitomizes how lost much of
our media has become. But I don't know how many
of you know this story, so let me give you
a little bit of background. Buck, you may or may
not know the story. Three years ago, uh Florida passed
(25:58):
that don't say the so called don't say Gay bill
in the state of Florida. Disney sued and it turned
into a major cultural flashpoint, such that Live on air
on ESPN, which is owned by Disney, they paused to
have a moment of silence in allyship with LGBTQI people
(26:23):
who were upset by this.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Can I just also point out the media went full
throttle so that they could convince people the bill is
that parental Rights and Education bill. It's HB fifteen fifty seven,
correct parental rights and education. No where does it say
you can't say gay, and it's not even the name
of the bill. So it was a pure propaganda operation.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Completely accurate.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And I'm glad you brought that up because I was
gonna hammer this home because I think it has been
discussed recently as we've been talking about what books. Remember
they had the Supreme Court argument and even some people
on the left were like, man, that it's crazy that
you would be reading these books to kindergarteners. All the
Florida bill did, Ron Desantems one hundred percent right on this.
(27:09):
All the bill did was say there will be no
sex or gender instruction for kindergartener, first, second, third grade kids.
I would even argue, I've got a fourth grader, he's ten.
I think you could expand it probably to fourth and
fifth grade, two until a kid gets to puberty ish age.
(27:32):
Fifth grade, sixth grade I think is certainly early a
little bit, but at least that's in the vicinity of
when kids might become aware of puberty. Why in the
world would any public school need to be teaching gender,
sex based in any way issues to classrooms.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Well, you know, it's it's a question that we actually
have to keep answering, right, it's not a rhetorical question.
Why do they want to do this because it's a
doctrinate because it actually goes to the core ideology, the
core of the ideology they're trying to present, which is
that and this it does not make sense. But a
lot of things don't make sense that people ardently believe, right,
(28:14):
you know, democrats think socialism is going to work this
time anyway. A lot of things don't make sense. But
one of them is that doctors get the gender of
the baby wrong. And so it starts from the very
youngest age that somehow they can like reverse bioengineer this,
and they need to get people as young as possible
(28:37):
because otherwise it's too clear that this is a choice
or this is a psychological condition that develops as you
get older. They want this to be it is like
it is like skin color. It is an immutable thing
that you must understand. Is a is you know, a
person is that way and there's no change again, and
(28:59):
so we must all respected equally.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
It is not like skin color as we know.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It is in fact, not a physical manifestation at all,
even though there are people who are intersex, but that
is not what transgenderism is.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And now we get to why they want.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
To push it so early, and why they want to
push it on such young kids, because Clay in their
mind also, this is not about sex. This is about
civil rights. This is a civil rights issue. This is
like training anti racism into second graders.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Well, we got an audio clip for that, but I
think many people don't know this happens. So the reason
why I'm bringing it up today is Disney has announced
this morning that they are going to be building a
brand new theme park, New Disney World, Disneyland, whatever it is,
in Abu Dhabi, and in Abu Dhabi in the country
(29:52):
of the UAE. I believe you're better at geography than me.
I looked it up. In the UAE, you can be
beheaded if you are gay. So not exactly an expansive
view of human sexuality in the UAE. In the UAE,
you could probably say gay, but then you might be beheaded, yes,
(30:13):
the bad part. Okay, So over this Florida bill, which,
as Buck Rightley points out, was misattributed to a don't
say gay bill, it just said kindergarten, first second, third
graders can't be gender instructed Disney, and I don't think
this got enough.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Tension, which owns ESPN.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
They had a moment of silence live on the air
during a women's basketball game.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is l Duncan.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I have tagged her on Twitter to ask when we
should expect the moment of silence over the new theme
park that Disney is opening an Abu Dhabi. But listen
to what you could have tuned in just to watch
a women's college basketball game on ESPN. This is what
you would have heard. This is what they did over
the Florida Bill. Listen Cut twenty.
Speaker 14 (31:01):
Six legislation happening in Florida and across other states as
well that are targeting our LGBTQI plus communities. Many of
our colleagues here at ESPN have planned and organized a
walkout that will be happening at three pm Eastern today.
And to be honest with you, we thought we were
going to come here today and really celebrate a sport
that has meant so much and done so much, including
(31:23):
for so many in the LGBTQI plus communities. But we
understand the gravity of this legislation and also how it
is affecting so many families across this country. And because
of that, our allyship is going to take a front seat,
and with that, we're going to pause in solidarity.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Okay, I'm going to play another cut for you that
I've had them introduced Buck. This is during the women's
NCAA basketball tournament you tune it in. It was South
Carolina and Howard are playing. You are a parent and
you're like, hey, I want to watch this basketball game
with my little girl or my little boy.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
You put on sports. That is what you saw. Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
This was their reaction to the Florida Bill. Now Disney
is building a theme park in Abu Dhabi where theoretically
you could be beheaded if you are gay. What is
the necessity that ESPN must undertake here? Now, Buck, first off,
do we need to do a fact finding mission? Is
this going to be like clan Buck's excellent Abu Dhabi adventure?
Do we have to show up to this new Is
(32:24):
Minnie Mouse going to be wearing a Burco?
Speaker 9 (32:26):
Like?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
How does this go? It's a fabulous question. And let
me say this.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I don't begrudge companies that are global in nature deciding
to try and reach the largest global audience. What I
am opposed to is when you wag your finger and
lecture all of us in America and then your company
engages in behavior which is far worse than what you
(32:52):
are complaining about occurring here, and you are shut up
and you say nothing at all about it.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, what you see is with the the ideology of
the left in America. It's all about power dynamics and
who they think they can bully, and in this country
they can bully, particularly what they view as a as
a predominantly Christian and majority white, although you know it's
(33:19):
not not a huge majority. But they think that they
can bully them as much as they possibly want to
do absolutely anything that they want, and we may comply,
like we might actually just completely. That's why the gender thing,
for example, matters so much to them, because if they
can get us to say that, you know what, that
six foot eight, two hundred and fifty pound dude who
thinks he's a woman because he grew his hair a
(33:40):
little long, hasn't gotten a haircut in a while and
is dunking on all the chicks on the basketball court
and scoring one hundred and forty points a game. That's good.
That's civil rights, that's progress. If they can make us
do that, they can make us do absolutely anything. But
they know that they can't actually pull this stuff off.
Clay in China, they can't pull it off. In the
Middle East, they can't pull it off. In Africa, they
(34:02):
can't pull off the wokeness routine in countries or and
or continents where overwhelmingly it's one non white and two
it's gonna be rejected. They're gonna say no, that's crazy
to us. So well, the whole thing is a scam.
They don't actually mean what they say on the left. Okay,
this is even crazier, Buck, This is the game itself.
(34:23):
So I just played the introduction of ESPN saying we're
gonna have a moment of silence.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
This is the game broadcasters. I've never seen or heard
this happen anywhere. This is on ESPN's broadcast. You are
sitting down to watch South Carolina Howard women's college basketball tournament.
And this is what the two game broadcasters said right
after L. Duncan tossed it to them. While the game
(34:50):
is going on itself. Listen to cut twenty seven Cortey.
Speaker 15 (34:53):
Lyle Carrolin pac Now. Normally at this time we would
take a look back at the first half, but there
are things bigger than basketball that need to be a
dressed at this time. Our friends, our family, our co workers,
the players and coaches in our community are hurting right now,
and at three o'clock, about eight minutes ago, our LGBTQIA
plus teammates at Disney ask for our solidarity and support,
(35:17):
including our companies support in opposition to the Parental Rights
in Education bill in the state of Florida and similar
legislature across the United States.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
And a threat to any human rights is a thread
to all human rights. Today, at this time, Courtney and I,
we're going to take a pause from our broadcast to
show our love and support for our friends, our families,
and our colleagues.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
The game is going on right now, and that's the
way it can you believe.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I don't think this.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Got enough attention when it happened. This was a couple
of years ago. But this morning, when I saw the
Abu Dhabi news, I couldn't help but think, well, this
is interesting, right if you're so opposed to the Florida bill,
which buck you rightly pointed out, all it did was
say kindergarten, first, second third graders were not gonna instruct
(36:11):
an education related to sex, wasn't gay, trans anything else,
which overwhelming majorities of parents support, And that was their
reaction to the Florida bill. Well, now they're building an
entire theme park in a country that believes gay people
should be beheaded. And I just think it illustrates the
depths of the hypocrisy that there will not be a
(36:34):
sentilla of noise that comes out of ESPN over this
Disney corporate decision.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I mean, you're talking about gay people, but what do
you think, how do you think it goes for you?
And Abi Abu Dhabi? If you walk around and you're like, no,
I'm actually a they, I don't think it's what there's
the authorities. I don't think first of all, it's an
authoritarian state. They detain people, they torture people to do
whatever they want. I mean, it's a nice place to visit.
If you're an American or European, you got a lot
of money, Just don't step out of line at all,
(37:00):
and don't talk about politics to anybody.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, I mean you think you walk.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Around, you're like, you know, my name, my name is
in Steve, it's actually Sally, and like you have to
use the preferred pronouns. I don't even know what they
would do with you, but it would be really bad.
They would not like imply the gaze for Gaza. They
would definitely take you for a tour of their of
their upper deck and then the of the of the
rooftop and then they would throw you off of it. Well,
you know, the American left is is unseerious about on
(37:27):
a global scale, l g B, t Q, I A
plus rights. Uh, because they just the Muslim world by
and large is allowed to do whatever they want and
with with almost no with no protests, no nothing. They'll
never even leftists in America won't even say that.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The the mother load.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Of oppression when it comes to gender and lgbt U,
t Q and all that the mother load of I mean,
the real is the Islamic world. They will never talk
about that.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
By the way, as a guy who isn't really as
you point out a lot diehard sports fan, can you
believe that that exists, that that audio on a sports
broadcast network, that that video, that that would have even occurred?
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Does that just blow your mind? It blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Even though I know how crazy these people are, the
fact that happens still blows my mind.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
I think a lot of sports viewers, which.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I can't speak to, be one much, you know, but
I think that Clay, they just get They're just used
to just tuning. It's like when actors used to give
their opinions on things, and I'm like, I just want
to see your movie.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
If it's good, just shut up. I don't want.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I feel like a lot of sports viewers have gotten
used to and maybe now this is changing.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
All right.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
They're doing some you know, idiotic thing and oh like,
what are we going to do? And now just show
me my sports? You know they tune it out.
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Sunday Hang With podcast.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
And we are joined by Raymond Arroyo of Fox News,
and he comes to us from Rome itself, where we
know the next Pope is being chosen by the conclave.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Raymond, great to have you back on the program.
Speaker 9 (40:20):
Oh, always enjoyed being with you guys. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It's appreciated.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
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Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh yeah, Well, well, we're sorry to take you away
from some delicious nyuki and I'm sure a cappuccino with
perfect froth. But what is going what is going on
here with the whole process to choose the next pope
the leader of the Catholic flock?
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Take take us.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Into everything You're you're finding out everything that's going on
because a lot of people, I'm just gonna say this, Raymond,
even some of the Catholics listening don't know that much
about the process itself and what's going on here.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
Well, it's a mysterious process and that's part of the fun.
And look for non Catholics, I said this morning Daryalla
Coverage at Fox, this is the root of Christianity. Whether
you're a Lutheran, Episcopalian, Evangelical, or Catholic, the fact is,
if you believe in Jesus Christ. The mass that these
cardinals held today was right over the tomb of Saint Peter,
(41:16):
which in the fifties they dug up the basement of
Saint Peter's and found the first of all, there's another
church down there. There's a third century Constantine basilica beneath it,
and then beneath that is a graveyard like an above
ground cemetery like we have in New Orleans, and they
found the bones of Saint Peter there. So it is
upon the bones of Saint Peter where the mass was
held today to choose the successor of Saint Peter two
(41:40):
thousand plus years later. I mean, it's a kind of
incredible thing when you step back and look at it.
So one hundred and thirty three men from something like
eighty different countries went into this conclave just this afternoon
here in Rome a few hours ago. And this is
an ancient tradition. And the beautiful thing about Christianity is
through the ages, through the millennia, all these little rituals
(42:02):
are picked up in traditions, practices, and devotions, and the
Catholic Church has a wonderful way of kind of preserving
them and pushing them into the future. The conclave practice,
this all started because in about twelve seventy four they
couldn't elect a pope. It took the conclave was dragging
on for three years. They couldn't make a decision, so
(42:22):
I think it was polled. Gregory the tenth decided to
lock the cardinals in a private place with no contact
with the outside world, Deprive them all of that nolchi
and cappuccino you mentioned earlier, no food for them, and
kind of made them uncomfortable. So they would come to
a decision, and they did so that became the new
rule of electing a pope. It went into seclusion. It
(42:44):
was kind of like a retreat. It wasn't It was
spartan and it kind of forced them to focus on
the thing at hand. That's what we're watching now. One
hundred and thirty three cardinals are going to choose one
of their own, but it could be any baptized Catholic
male to be the vote, and they're in the Sistine
Chapel now. In fact, we're expecting smoke any minute.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Now.
Speaker 9 (43:04):
My guess is first ballot is usually black, meaning you
don't have a pope white smoke you probably won't see
until Friday at the earliest of I think it could
drag on longer.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, that's the question I was going to ask you, Raymon,
and thank you for joining us from the Vatican City.
As the pope is being selected, what is the expectation
you said Friday you think will know? How does the
vote process take place? I think they're doing one What
is it about seven pm or eight pm? I guess
in Rome right now they're doing one vote. They're doing
(43:39):
one this afternoon, and then how will it work there's
a vote every morning or multiple votes every morning and
every afternoon going forward. What should we expect assuming they
don't pick one now.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Yeah, they only do one vote. On the first day
of conclave. They went in, they prayed, they all did
their odes, they sat down, got to kind of know
the process. Took a vote around four o'clock. They're counting it.
They have six people that count the vote claim, which
is unbelievable. They three of them scrutinize it, make sure
the vot's authentic, nobody forged the signature or dropped too
many votes in. Then the other guys double check it,
(44:10):
and then it's red. It's read aloud. So you can
imagine how long that takes with one hundred and thirty
three people. But at seven seven point thirty, they start
lighting up the stoves. They take those ballots to burn them,
and that's where the black or the white smoke comes.
Tomorrow and the days that succeed, there'll be two votes
in the morning, two votes in the evening in the afternoon,
so you'll get two smoke stacks going up to indicate
(44:33):
whether or not they've come to a decision. But when
you've got one hundred and thirty three guys who don't
know each other. You see, Cardinals used to meet every year,
the College of Cardinals would meet. Pope Francis ten years
ago had a conference on the family where he wanted
to do some wacky things and the cardinals started talking
back to him. He didn't like that, so he canceled
the annual meeting of a college of cardinals. They haven't
(44:56):
met in ten years, and he appointed one hundred and
eight of the one hundred thirty three men in this conclave.
So they literally don't know each other, haven't met each other,
and they don't know each other's concerns. So the last
week or so twelve days has been about getting to
know each other and figuring out what they believe is
the next step to the church. And it's a battle
(45:16):
someone to continue the Francis line, which is more progressive,
you know, focused on kind of loosening the bounds of
the doctrine, dispensing with the things of the past. And
then you have the other block that wants tradition or
return to eternal values, back to basics, and get rid
of some of the chaos and the lack of clarity
we've seen over the last twelve years. And we'll see
(45:37):
who comes out the winner here.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
The fact well, that's works where I wanted to go
next with you Raymore speaking of Raymond and Royal from
Fox News. He is in Rome right now, covering the
conclave very closely, and we're going to be finding out
about a.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
New pope here. You said, what by Friday? Probably so
couple of more days.
Speaker 7 (45:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (45:55):
If it goes to Saturday, we're in trouble because that's
a day of pause in the car the constitution, if
you do three d days of voting, you don't have
a pope. But they have to pause for a day
and pray and meditate, which means voting would resume on Sunday.
I hope that's not the case because I'm leaving on Sunday.
I'll watch them.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well, I was gonna say, I mean it could be
you know, you could be on the India Pakistan border
or something right now, right, I mean, you know tough,
it's not such tough duty. You know you're gonna be
on a vespa. You're going to be seeing the site.
It would be very nice.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
But tell me tell me this feel aroundemy.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Some of the top options that are being discussed. I
hear a lot about a cardinal Sarah. Tell me some
of the top contenders right now. And you know you
got into this a little bit, but what some of
the different directions would be based upon who some of
those top candidates are for the church.
Speaker 9 (46:43):
Well, you know, I have a podcast and we've been
doing this every day daily reports. It's a Royal Grande
show on YouTube. And I have this conclave crew and
it's a priest and a historian and three of us
kind of go through all the gossip we heard that
day and the candidates. So that's at a Royal Grande
show on YouTube. And some of the people we discussed.
There's a Cardinal tag Lay from the Philippines. He's kind
(47:05):
of an Asian Pope. Francis happier, more buoyant, but he's
the same line. He believes that Vatican two, the more
modern approach, is the way to go, and that we
should loosen some of these moral bonds on whether it
be marriage or the LGBT community. He liked to see
a more open approach. You have a Cardinal Paroline. Now,
(47:28):
this guy is the Secretary of State at the Vatican.
He's the guy who drafted the China Deal, the hidden
China Vatican Deal, which literally handed faithful Catholics and not
only Catholics Bible churches, but tons of people over faithful
people to the chicoms. They rounded them up. They've shut
down churches the Vatican. Why they got into this deal,
(47:50):
no one can figure. They also allowed the Chinese to
choose their bishops, two of which they appointed after the
Pope died. Okay, So Cardinal Peroline is a guy with
a lot of clouds over his record that will probably
damn his candidacy. He's also involved in a lot of
financial chicaner here a four hundred million dollar land deal
(48:10):
that went belly up in London, so he will probably
not make it out of the gate. But he's the
number one liberal candidate, if you will, the progressive candidate
to continue Francis's legacy. On the other side, Cardinal Robert Sarah,
who you mentioned, a priest from Nigeria, an incredible man.
Both of his parents were converts, an African cardinal who
(48:34):
headed up the liturgy office at the Holy See and
got into problems with Pope Francis over the old Latin Mass,
which France has outlawed. Cardinal Robert Sarah did not want
that to happen, so Francis booted him out. He's a
huge favorite of the more traditional cardinals. I think though,
(48:54):
at the end of the day, you need somebody who
can both reform this bureaucracy, clean up the financial problems
the church is broke here, that's the reality, and revived
the faith in a winning way. I keep looking at
a man I know, I've known him for twenty five years,
Cardinal Pierre Baptista Pizza Bala. Try saying that's four times fast.
Pizza Bala is the Jerusalem patriarch. He's a Franciscan, He's
(49:19):
lived in the Holy Land for thirty five years, a
sturdy man from the farming country in northern Italy, but
a prayerful man who believes the Word of God should
be the center of our lives. And he's cleaned up
all the financial problems there and navigated this landmine of
Israel and the Palestinians. And when, in fact, when Hamas
(49:41):
took those hostages, he offered his life in exchange for
the hostages. That will, I think tip the balance for
him if they need a compromise candidate. It's kind of
like Trump getting shot in Butler that was the end
of the campaign. I feel that way about Pizza Bala
as well.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
All right, so this is maybe going to damn me too.
A ternal flames here, But you can you can bet
on who the next pope is going to be. And Raymond,
I don't know if you've paid attention to this, but
here are you just mentioned?
Speaker 9 (50:12):
It's excommunicable. We can't do it, but that others can't
but we can't. It's literally an excommunical crime if you
bet on the on the papacy. Do you know that?
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Oh? Do you really?
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Clay was trying to get me excommunicated, Raymond. He wanted
me to be a heathen.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
All right, well then, you guys, I'm here to save you.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
I'm not Catholic, so I can't be excommunicated here. So
I'm going to tell you the favorites according to the
gambling market.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
There's still time, There's still time. Okay, Well then I
might be ending that forever.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Now the Southern Baptist can be happy because I'm shutting
the door on being Catholic. Here are the four favorites
according to polymarket right now, Pietro, Perilyn and I'm probably
going to mispronounce the names, but you said you thought
he was Yeah, you you three of these names. That's
that's what I was impressed by. It says that you
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think he's got too many scandals. In his background. Tagol
Or Tagola nineteen point yep, Tagli, you know you mentioned
Pizza Bella, who was the individual you were just talking about.
He's the fourth most likely, the only one you didn't mention.
I'm going to put you on the spot here, Mateo,
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Zoopy or Zuppy, what do you know about him? If anything,
he's third most likelyto Mateo.
Speaker 9 (51:31):
Zupi is an Italian cardinal, very much in line with
the Pope France's vision of things. He's a liberal, He's
been very open to the LGBT community. Look, Clay, when
you have young people, we just saw this at Easter,
and Buck will back me up on this. Young people
are flooding into the Catholic Church, not only cathol Church,
other Communists too, but particularly the Catholic Church. And it's
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young men because they've they've found their way into the
faith through the Internet and reading, and they're looking for
something eternal, inc the truth of Christ and the Gospel.
I don't think you're going to get that from a
guy like Zoopie or Tagle, who basically pushing a line
that we just have to be more like the world
and less like the apostles. You want an apostle. So
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my guess is, if I were a betting man, and
I'm not because I don't want to get excommunicated, I
would put my money on somebody like Pizza Bala, because
I think both the right and the left candidates are
going to go down and they're going to need a compromise,
and that guy's story is so compelling, I think it
might just win the day.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Outstanding stuff, Raymond for coming right to us from the
Vatican City. If there are immediate results or something like that,
don't hesitate to call us back in if you were
there in the Vatican City to report live.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
I'd love to have you on next couple of days
if that happens.
Speaker 9 (52:47):
Yeah, call me anytime.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
I'm here.
Speaker 9 (52:49):
I'll be smokestack watching until I hope Friday and then
we can.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
All go home.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
Excellent, excellent voice imposter for us and Clay. You know,
my dad is an Anglican, so I'm actually split by parentage,
so he's an Anglican like Church of England type and
or you know, Episcopalian.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
Say, I think it's the same.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Thing, isn't that basically, And I'm gonna probably get religious
people off now. Isn't that basically just when Henry the
Eighth decided that he wanted to get married and they
split the Church of England from the Catholic Faith. Isn't
that basically the existence of that faith? Yes, that is
the history. That is the history of the Church of England.
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Is Henry the Eighth not a great guy, wanted to
get remarried again, definitely be headed a wife.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Not a good dude. So so that.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Is the founding history of the Church of England. That's
what I thought, just wanted to make it. Which now
that that low i Q pretentious weirdo.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
What's his name, King Charles is the head of He's
the head of the Church of England.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Oh I know.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yeah, the Church of England is always headed by the
by the king because the King wanted to marry a
new woman and decided that he needed to leave the
Catholic Faith. That's right, right, I've got the religious background there,
I think.
Speaker 3 (54:04):
So all the angry Episcopalians, but honestly, you're not gonna
be angry about this. You could send your ire at
Clay for just talking about the historical record.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
But that was cool.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
Raymond Royo right from the Vatican city as we wait
to see who the next pope is going to be.
And you found out that I've now been excommunicated from
the Catholic faith because I've shared the latest gambling odds
on the pope. And it was interesting that Raymond had
broken down three of them as the potential likely popes.
Speaker 3 (54:31):
You're like the Beelzebub of the Clay and Buck show,
you know, tempting our audience to place place wagers that
would damn them for eternity. Clay, Well, I'll be honest.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
You know, the Southern Baptists believe that basically you can
be forgiven for anything. So so yeah, we well term
you know, you asked for forgiveness, you get it, President Trump,
remember Bill Clinton, big Southern Baptist. President Trump, a lot
of forgiveness there. President Trump didn't say it first, but
he said it loudest. His words were something to the
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