Daily Review With Clay and Buck - May 23 2025

Two Truths in the Race Debate Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with Clay Travis solo-hosting ahead of Memorial Day weekend, delivering a powerful monologue that blends current events, cultural commentary, and political analysis. The hour opens with a discussion on the four-year low in gas prices, which Travis attributes to the resurgence of the Trump economy. He emphasizes how fuel costs serve as a key economic indicator for everyday Americans, especially in the wake of inflation under the Biden administration. The central theme of the hour is a deep dive into the rise of identity politics and its impact on American society. Travis draws connections between recent violent incidents—including the murder of two Jewish individuals in Washington, D.C., and a fatal stabbing at a Texas high school track meet—and what he sees as a dangerous cultural shift. He argues that modern left-wing ideology has embraced a racially divisive framework, where moral judgment is increasingly based on skin color rather than individual character or actions. Travis critiques the mainstream media and progressive institutions for promoting what he calls a “pernicious racial identity politics,” asserting that this mindset has led to a reversal of civil rights-era progress. He references the October 7, 2023 Hamas attacks on Israel as a turning point for many Jewish Americans, who he says are now being unfairly categorized as oppressors due to their perceived whiteness. Karol Markowicz on Religious Racism Karol Markowitz joins to discuss rising antisemitism in the U.S. and the Jewish community’s shifting stance on self-defense and gun ownership post-October 7. The segment also touches on the tragic shooting of two Israeli-connected individuals in Washington, D.C., and the broader implications for Jewish safety and political alignment in America. Frank Siller of Tunnel to Towers Honoring America’s fallen heroes ahead of Memorial Day weekend, with a powerful and emotional conversation featuring Frank Siller, Chairman and CEO of the Tunnel to Towers Foundation. This hour delivers a heartfelt tribute to military service members, first responders, and their families, while also spotlighting impactful charitable efforts and patriotic initiatives. Frank Siller shares the origins and mission of the Tunnel to Towers Foundation, inspired by the heroic sacrifice of his brother, Stephen Siller, on 9/11. The foundation provides mortgage-free homes to Gold Star families and catastrophically injured veterans and is expanding its reach by building homeless veteran villages across the U.S., including in cities like Atlanta, Denver, Buffalo, and Puerto Rico. Siller emphasizes the importance of remembering the sacrifices made by service members and encourages listeners to support the cause by donating $11/month at T2T.org. Clay and Frank reflect on the bravery of the Greatest Generation, particularly those who stormed the beaches of Normandy, and draw parallels to the courage of post-9/11 veterans. They also discuss the upcoming 25th anniversary of 9/11 and the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, noting former President Donald Trump’s support for Tunnel to Towers and his plans to commemorate both milestones. WV Gov. Patrick Morrisey on Helping Veterans Become Teachers West Virginia Governor Patrick Morrissey joins the show to discuss his state’s new “Troops to Teachers” initiative, which streamlines the process for veterans to become educators. Morrissey highlights the leadership and life experience veterans bring to classrooms and how this program addresses teacher shortages while honoring military service. He also praises President Trump’s policies, particularly on energy independence and deregulation, and outlines West Virginia’s economic revitalization efforts, including upcoming announcements tied to the WVU-Pitt “Backyard Brawl” football game.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I know that
many of you have already started your Memorial Day weekend.
Maybe you are listening by the pool, maybe you are
listening on the golf course or on the road as
you begin your travel. Positive right off the top four

(00:24):
year low on gas prices. For those of you as
we enter the summer holiday travel season, you have never
paid less, certainly as a percentage of the inflation that
Joe Biden ran up to a large extent, than what
you are going to be paying for gas this weekend.
And that is a sign that the Trump economy is

(00:47):
beginning to pick up speed. Because I've argued for some
time on this program that the number one way most
people in America decide how the economy is going is
by what you have to pay when you fill up
your gas tank. And we are at four year lows,
and if you factor in the crazy Biden inflation, the
lows are even better because unfortunately, our dollar has been

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devalued by the twenty plus percent increase in prices that
we saw during Biden's tenure. But we got a lot
to talk about today. Buck is out, He'll be back
on Tuesday, but I am solo with you here today.
We got a bunch of guests in the back half
of the program. Carol Markowitz going to join us at
one point thirty. She is a part of the Clay

(01:31):
Travis buck Sexton Show podcasting network, and she has been
very outspoken on how anti Semitism as well as the
COVID chaos has impacted her own life. She has three
young kids. She dos podcasts normally about being a mom
with Mary Catherine Ham. We will talk with her at
one thirty Eastern about halfway through the program. Frank Siller

(01:54):
as we head into Memorial Day. Frank Siller from Tunnel
to Towers will join us in the third and then
West Virginia Governor Patrick Morrissey. That is the lineup of
guests that we are headed into discussion with in the
back half of the program. But I wanted to start
with an idea that I see linking a lot of

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different aspects of the modern culture that we are in,
and sadly, I was thinking quite a lot about it
in the wake of the murder of two innocent Jewish
people in the streets of Washington, d C. Because they
happen to have the gall to be Jewish, and that

(02:41):
you guys know, I'm a big history fan, and the
reason I love history is because nothing is ever new.
There is always a reflection in some way of a
past historical story that is in some way slightly different,
but in many ways evocative of what has happened before.

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And I want to do a little bit of a
deep dive here off the top, because I'm seeing all
these different connecting tendrils that to me are telling us
that we are on a path that we have to
reject because I don't like where it's leading us. And yes,
Trump November fifth, twenty twenty four was incredibly important, and

(03:26):
there are lines of demarcations suggesting that we are rejecting
that path. But I actually saw a connection between what
happened in Washington, d C. And what we're seeing happen
in the identity politics culture arena in which we all
live now. And so let me kind of explain exactly
where these connections are and how I see them all

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creating a situation that is not ideal for where we
are headed. October seventh, twenty twenty three, was the Deadly
day for Jews since the Holocaust. It's important because many
of the people out there who have been lecturing me

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and have been lecturing you about being on the right
side of history have actually managed, i think, quite thoroughly,
to embrace the wrong side of history. They think that
they are history's heroes and they're actually history's villains. And
what I mean by that is this identity politics, woke

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culture that was created is defined almost exclusively by the
color of your skin. And this is not new. I'm
not someone who's going to sit around and say, hey,
racism didn't exist in the past. But the idea that
you should be defined by the color of your skin,

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and that in a larger context it defines whether or
not you are good or evil in some way has
become deeply embedded in the Democrat Party now and it
has become an article of faith on the left for
sure in this country. And I think October seventh opened

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a lot of your eyes to this because suddenly Jewish
people who are the most profoundly attacked throughout history, certainly
for the last several thousand years, they found out that
because they happened to look white, that they were considered

(05:40):
to be white, and when all of the people from
Gaza came in on October seventh and slaughtered and raped
and kidnapped innocent Jewish people, I think many Jewish people
looked around and said, wait a minute, how is it

(06:01):
that we are seen as the bad guy here when
we were directly attacked on October seventh. And the only
reason why they are seen as the bad guy is
because they are seen as white and the Palestinians are
seen as brown. And in this modern identity politics world
that has been created, I was thinking about it in

(06:22):
the context of the South African white farmers who represent
seven percent of the population in South Africa. We have
not swung from if you're black in America you are
a second class citizen to equality. We have swung from

(06:44):
if you're white in America, in the minds of many
people on the left, you are a problem. And it
is a pernicious racial identity politics that has been created
where the idea is only that white people are bad
now and brown skinned people are good. And I don't

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know that anybody really elucidates this because it makes people
uncomfortable to have a conversation like this, but it actually
undergirds the entirety of what's going on in the United
States and to a large extent around the world. And
so there is this idea that if you are white,

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you are a problem and anything that is done to
you is justified if it's being done by someone who
is a minority or is seen as brown skinned. And
I don't think we're doing enough to talk about it,
and I don't think we're doing enough to have a
real conversation about it. And I think the world would

(07:52):
change immensely if we could. And I tweeted this out,
but I've been thinking about it a lot. If we
would adopt basically two truths that I believe are self evident,
and I'll start with the first. It is white, Black, Asian,
and Hispanic people are all capable of being racist. There

(08:16):
has been embedded critical race theory, this idea that only
white people can be racist. If you decided that because
of the color of your skin you could never do
anything wrong, how would that change the way that you behaved.
And we've got people hugely different backgrounds listening to us

(08:37):
right now, and you're nodding along because if you're black,
you're like, yeah, I know quite a few people who
are black racist, And if you're Hispanic, you're nodding along,
you're saying, yeah, you know, I know people who are
racist and Hispanic. And if you're Asian, you're nodding along,
you're saying, yeah, you know. In my family there there

(09:00):
are people who are racist and white people. Yeah, certainly
they are racist. White people too. All races are capable
of racism. And if you will adopt that, and a
lot of people would disagree with that, if you will
adopt that premise, the next step should be, let's judge individuals,
as kind of a famous guy said about sixty years ago,

(09:22):
on the content of their character, not the color of
their skin. And what you are seeing far too often
in America today is incident happens, and there almost immediately
is a defense of that incident based on the race
of the people involved. I was thinking about it in

(09:46):
the context of what we saw happen down in Texas.
Young black teenage kids stabs a white kid in the heart,
raises five hundred thousand dollars. I was thinking of it
in the context stuff much less serious. But some of
you probably saw this go viral. White mom in a

(10:06):
playground racially insults a young black kid, and she also
raises massive amounts of money. And the world in which
we are creating this schematic is actually in no way beneficial.

(10:27):
It's actually just taking us back to the nineteen fifties
in America and we have this idea, oh, well, we
have advanced and there's all these different aspects of life
that have changed. And that's certainly true, and there are
many positive things. But again from a historical perspective, a

(10:47):
lot of the arguments that you are starting to hear
in the United States actually sound like a lot of
the arguments that were made in the nineteen fifties in
the United States. And so when I look at what
happened in Washington, d C. When I look at the
stabbing that happened in Texas, as we're getting into this

(11:10):
Memorial Day weekend here, what I would suggest we need
to have and we should have, is a conversation about
personal responsibility, and it should be divorced from anybody's race,
because to me, the least interesting thing about someone is
the choices that they didn't make. Nobody chooses their gender,

(11:33):
I know, trust me, we all know that's mostly bs, right.
Nobody chooses their gender. Nobody chooses their race. To allow
yourself to be defined by an identity that you didn't
choose is actually, to me the antithesis of what the
United States should represent. So I'm going to open up

(11:54):
phone lines. I think probably a lot of you are
feeling this too. And this idea of deciding who is
the hero and who is the villain based on the
color of their skin is not a new one, but
it's actually dragging us back into the nineteen fifties. And
I think a lot of Jewish people are looking around

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in the wake of the double murder that happened in
cold blood on the streets of Washington, d C. And
they're seeing that these chants globalize, the intifada that all
of these college kids were part of is actually spreading,
and it's pernicious and it's nasty, and it's all rooted

(12:37):
in the concept, which is old, older than any of us,
that your guilt or innocence, that your good or evil
nature is defined not by the choices that you make,
but by the color of your skin. And I think
the legacy media is a huge part of this. Frankly,
I think a lot of left wing white people have

(13:00):
bought into this idea which is which is wild. I
don't know that we've ever seen anything like it where
one racial group decides that their race is evil. And
I just think this is a big conversation point as
we sit here rolling into Memorial Day weekend, because I'm
seeing different parts of it pop up throughout the culture.

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And heck, I even at the bottom half of this
hour will analogize it to the world of sports, and
I think a lot of you are going to say, Wow,
this is maybe more toxic than I had thought, as
it pertains to how Caitlin Clark of all people, might
be treated in the WNBA, and how to me, we

(13:46):
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Speaker 1 (16:23):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. By the way,
I want to get Carol's take on this. I have
challenged Angel Reese, who hates Caitlin Clark, to a basketball
game to fifteen after I watched Angel Reese miss like
nine consecutive layups in a basketball game last night. Ones

(16:43):
and twos. I'm forty six, six foot one eighty five.
Angel Reese is six foot three, one sixty five. This
will be interesting but Carol, have you seen this yet?
I'm texting it to you. So the Daily Wire wrote
about this and they picked a photo of the wrong
white guy.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Like they have.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
They have misidentified this is It is the racism of
the highest magnitude. They just think they can put a
white guy in a ball cap with a beard and
some do you see this? I don't even know who
that is. Do you know who that is?

Speaker 4 (17:20):
I don't know. He looks like he just won maybe
a golf something.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
So the headline is lay Travis challenges w One of
my buddies just sent me this, like who is the
white guy? They used the wrong white guy picture?

Speaker 3 (17:33):
For me?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
They got Angel Reyese right. Good for them because they've
gotten the wrong black girl. Yeah, if they gotten the
wrong black girl photo, the company wouldn't exist anymore. But
they got the wrong white guy photo. So first of all,
I don't know how much time you've spent in basketball analysis.
How do you think I would do against Angel Reese
one on one?

Speaker 5 (17:54):
See?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
This is how you try to make me care about
women's basketball.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
You would watch would you watch? Yes? Of course, and
everybody would watch this watch.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I like your quote. She plays basketball all the time.
I occasionally playing my fourteen year old in her backyard.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
That's accurate, That's one hundred percent accurate.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, I think you could take her. I think anybody
who is that folon themselves is ripe for being beat.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Well, then certainly that would be a real battle of
egos between me and Angel. I am a little bit
concerned about my tendons and my and my ankles holding up,
so I'd only be able to play one game. But
I really think that I could beat her. She's got
me on a few inches, but I have her on
I think shooting ability, which is an indictment of her.

(18:41):
She does play all the time. It's actually her job.
Do you know that you may not know this. Do
you know what the rookie salary is for WNBA players?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
I don't tell me what it is.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Seventy five thousand dollars a year. Legitimately, you get drafted
into the WNBA, they put it on television, and then
you get paid seventy five thousand dollars a year. All right, Wow,
we brought we brought you on for a variety of
serious things. You didn't know what you were walking into there.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Before we get to serious, though, I looked up that
image that they had of you. It appears to be
just a model for sunglasses.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
You like that. You can search images to see. So
they just picked a random white guy who was modeling sunglasses. Yeah. Again,
I think the company would cease to exist if they
had misidentified Angel Reese. But the fact that they have
just picked a random white guy as opposed to actually
using me is Oh. Some people are saying it looks

(19:40):
like Chris Harrison from The Bachelor, which is which is
even funnier potentially. All right, So, by the way, happy
early Memorial Day. Are you and the kids doing anything
anything special this weekend?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm at a history tournament, Clay, I'm at a history
tournament with my middle son for four days.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
So poor.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Oh yeah, it's so.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
How does the history tournament work? Is that like quiz bowl?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
It is? It is. It's a bunch of nerdy kids
all staying in one hotel, and it's quite wonderful. Obviously
I'm joking about it.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
But what percentage of the questions do you know the
answer to?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
I know approximately, Like on his regional competitions, I would
know about half at the nationals or international competitions that
he does I know, like ten percent.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
So is it world history? Like they can be asked
anything under the sun.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
It could be anything.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, did they still have the bell? Like you have
to hit later? I would like to see them you.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Have to hit the buzzer. They're tough, they're tough questions.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
This is by the way, I would I would be
super interested in this. And but four days? How many rounds?
I mean, how like that's unbelieved.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
It starts with you know, it starts with two rounds
and you have to advance and you know, so on.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
So where is the tournament part of the country.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's in Orlando, Okay, Well.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I mean there are worse places you could be. I'm
gonna be there next week to go to the new
Universal studios with my kids.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So well that's a heck of a way to spend
Memorial Day weekend. That is a very parent answer. I
have a question for you. I know you're not a
diehard sports person, but I know you're well know in general,
this idea. The reason we were talking about the Kaitlin
Clark and the reason that picture is up is I
was comparing it to Tiger Woods comes into golf and

(21:36):
everybody suddenly cares about golf. A lot of you out
there listening to me right now watch the Masters tournament
that you would have never watched if Tiger hadn't been involved.
Then you have Venus and Serena Williams come into tennis,
and the number of people watching women's tennis, especially in
the United States, skyrockets. And now you have Kaitlin Clark
and way more people are paying attention to women's basketball. Venus,

(21:57):
Serena and Tiger were in general all welcomed with open
arms by golf and tennis. My theory on why Caitlin
Clark is being disrespected and actually not welcomed at all
is because of racism and because a lot of the
black women in the WNBA don't feel like there are
any consequences for being racist. And I think it actually

(22:20):
ties in with the larger culture, unfortunately, of what we've
seen happen with Israel since October seventh, where Jews are
seen as white and so people don't actually look at
good or evil or even acknowledge their own behavior because
they feel like that is the system under which they're
viewing it. Do you see those asconnected or Am I crazy?

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Absolutely? No, I absolutely see that connection, and it's funny,
you know, funny, not funny. But my fifteen year old
daughter and I have this running joke that Jews are
whatever the worst thing is. So when it's white and
we're white, when it's not white and we're not white,
it's whatever the bad thing is. But yeah, absolutely, it's
who you're allowed to hate, who it's okay to hate

(23:00):
openly and to do bad things too openly, And it's
you're right in making that connection, because I think that's
where we are. Like some people, you're some racist, some
religions they're allowed to just talk negatively about openly, you know.
And obviously Christianity has the same issue, maybe on a

(23:22):
less intense scale, but it's the same thing. Right, You
can make fun of Christians all you want. Try to
make fun of some other religions and you're not going
to be greeted with the same level of humor.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So no, I mean, it's a great example. I didn't
think about the Christian angle, but certainly think about the Olympics.
They made fun of the Last Supper in France, which
is a Christian nation, in a way they never would
have made fun of Islam for instance.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
I mean they would have.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I mean, Charlie, hipgo. They all got killed for putting
a poster a picture up of Muhammed, but mocking in
sort of a disgusting fashion. The Last Supper is perfectly okay,
that's a good analogy too. Let me ask you this.
You after October, well, you talked about this, Buck and
I did yesterday. Buck said, Hey, I want to teach
Carol how to use guns. You've got three young kids,

(24:07):
and I think many Jewish people in the wake of
October seventh suddenly thought, even if they hadn't traditionally been
people who own guns, hey it's time to go get
guns now. We have to be able to protect our
family because the rising tide of anti Semitism is sweeping
across the world, and that certainly is connected to the
awful murder in Washington, d C. We saw. Do you

(24:28):
think that other Jews, based on your conversations, are making
this same decision when it comes to weapons, And take
us into conversations that you have had since the untimely
and unfortunate and awful murder of these two young Jewish
people in Washington, D C. What have conversations sounded like
in the Jewish community.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Well, you're absolutely right. Well, first of all, I just
want to clarify the man in the couple was actually
a Christian. He was a dedicated Christian, his mom was Christian.
He had lived in Israel, he had served in the IDF,
but he was a Christian Israel. And that's sort of
the thing here. It's that these monsters who want to
harm Jews or harm people connected to Israel, they don't

(25:08):
care if you're Jewish or not. They're going to hurt
whoever's around. They're not making calculated decisions as to who
to kill. They just sprayed bullets into people leaving an event.
It could have been anybody. So this idea that you know,
you absolutely need to protect yourself. Jewish spaces have been
amazing at it, terristically amazing at it. Had this person

(25:29):
tried to go into the event, they would have not succeeded.
But he waited outside, which is really a dangerous place
for anybody leaving an event like this. That's where the
danger would come in because he wouldn't be able to
get through the security. Having said all that, I've absolutely
seen such a shift in the Jewish community. I've written
about it in a number of different ways. I wrote

(25:50):
about it before October seventh. I wrote a column called
the New jew because I was at a comedy, a
Jewish comedy show in Miami, and it was a lot
of different Jewish and one of the Jewish comics started
talking negatively about guns and the crowd started booing her.
And I had never seen anything like it. I was
a fairly new Fluridi. And you know, I've only been
there three years. The Jewish community had long been anti guns.

(26:13):
And again this is before October seventh, this is January
twenty twenty three. So when the crowd started booing her,
I was like, Wow, something has really changed in the
Jewish world. And I hear from Jews all the time.
They're getting armed, they're getting trained, and it's really important
to do that. You know. Another thing I've written about
in terms of guns is you don't you know people

(26:35):
say I'm not a gun person. When you say that,
When you say I'm not a gun person, you're saying
I'm not a helping other people person. I want to
be the kind of person that can step in and help.
Therefore I am a gun person.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I think that is incredibly well said and all over Israel.
When I traveled in December, I saw moms carrying guns
on their hips now in a way that they never
would have before October verse seven. I like your question
of basically like who you are allowed to hate, because

(27:08):
I do think it goes to the embodiment here of
the Jewish faith is I mean Jewish people look around
and they say, we've been hated for thousands of years,
the idea that we would suddenly be and and by
the way, also have spoken up for so many other
groups that we believe have been oppressed or treated unfairly.

(27:29):
And then suddenly you look around and the people that
you have been fighting for don't have your back at all.
What has that realization been like?

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Well, it's interesting because I don't have that as much
because I'm a conservative, and I've been a lifelong conservative.
You know, I can't. I was born in the Soviet Union,
I came to America as a small child. You don't
become a liberal after that. So I was a conservative
of my whole life, and my conservative world has been
generally amazing, amazing on protecting Jews in America, I mean

(28:00):
thing on Israel in general, conservative the conservative side has
been just above and beyond. I mean, just you know,
yesterday box sexon Now your co host posted some commentary
about the shooting and just how you know America won't
stand for it, and how Jews deserve to feel safe
here and that kind of thing, and I reposted it
on my Instagram because I wanted my liberal Jewish friends

(28:22):
to see it, and I posted, you know, if this
isn't your friends today, you don't want them. And my
friends have been unbelievable. You've been unbelievable. I just I
feel such a warm embrace from the conservative side. Having
said all that, obviously there's been an uptick on the right,
all people kind of moving in a dangerous direction. I

(28:42):
think the villainization of Israel on the right has been
kind of scary, But I also think it's still very limited.
You still have the people who kind of say bad
things about Jews or say bad things about as well,
even the Candaice Owens of the world. They still kind
of have to dance around it. You know, they'll always
be like, I have no problem with Jews, I have

(29:04):
no problem with Israel. I just have a problem with
and then they'll say something like not Yahoo or something.
The democratically elected leader of Israel. So it's still far
better to be on the right than it is to
be on the left. And I understand why so many
of my liberal Jewish friends are feeling, you know, like
they've lost their bearings. They've they've stood with these people
in a variety of marches and causes and whatever, and

(29:27):
these people don't have their backs. And what I would
say to them is this is the time to get
have your eyes be open, realize who does stand with you.
The Jewish vote for Donald Trump, for example, increased by
a lot this last time. He got thirty percent in
twenty twenty. I think it's in the forties this time,
and that should keep moving up because the right is

(29:48):
a friend or friends to Jews, their friends to Israel,
and Jews in America should wake up and.

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Notice that Carol, your podcast is up. Everybody should be
checking it out if they aren't. As a part of
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We appreciate you stepping away from that to hang out
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(30:14):
the oldest, right, this is the middle one, yes, middle one?
All right, good deal. Well we'll talk again soon, but
keep up the good work.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Thank you.

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I'm going to be doing that tomorrow as I go
up to the Indy five hundred book as we kind
of are talking about the awfulness of what happened to
those two Israelis or I guess it was one Israelian one.
I think the woman was born in Kansas, if I'm
not mistaken. It is unfortunate reflective of the rise in
anti Semitism that we are seeing not only in the

(31:04):
United States but around the world. I mean, it wasn't
very long ago that the governor of Pennsylvania's house was
burned down, the Governor's mansion by someone who was trying
to stand up. They thought, for Palestine, that is completely unacceptable,
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Speaker 1 (32:31):
Welcome back in our number three Friday edition headed into
the Memorial Day weekend holiday. And certainly there's so many
of you out there with friends and family who have
made the ultimate sacrifice to protect this country and everything
that it stands for. And I've talked about this before.
We were gonna bring in Frank Siller here in a moment.

(32:51):
I don't know if he's had the opportunity to do this.
One of the greatest trips I have ever taken in
my life was I got to spend an entire day
touring the beaches of Normandy. I've talked about it on
the program before. We had a private tour guide took
the boys, all three of my boy's wife met our

(33:12):
tour guide in Normandy. He took us around to all
the beaches. So much of that area still looks the
exact same as it did eighty some odd years ago.
We toured the cemetery there where they have so many
American soldiers who are laid there in the rows of
white crosses. We bring in now Frank Siller, who lost

(33:32):
his brother on nine to eleven which is how Tunnel
to Towers came to be one of the truly great
charities that exists anywhere. Frank, I know you are a
student of American history in many ways as well. Have
you ever had that opportunity of touring the beaches of Normandy?
And if not, has there been a place outside of

(33:53):
certainly New York City where you have been raising money
and fighting back against what happened on that day on
nine to eleven, and that you have toured that has
particular resonance for you as you think about Memorial Day.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Yes, well, of course, there's so many places that we
could go to honor those who have given the made
the ultimate sacrifice, and certainly Narlington, which have been to
I mean, I take most.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yes, you should be there.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
But I was invited last year for the anniversary of
D Day to parachute into Normandy. Oh wow, And uh yeah,
I was invited by these great uh you know, the
twelve Horsemen, the guys who rode in in Afghanistan, you know,
the Special Forces Green Berets, and and I honestly, because

(34:45):
I didn't serve. I said to him, there's two reasons
why I'm not going to do this. And number one,
I said, I didn't serve, So I feel, oh, they
should do it because they're going to have me on
their plane that they were going. And we do a
lot of things together, and they helped raise a lot
of money for the foundation, and they equal over the
country for us. And I said, the second reason is
I'm not jumping out any plane. And I said, the

(35:08):
second reason might be might be the first reason. I
don't know if i'd have the courage to jump outside
the plane. That's why these heroes that that that do
these things, they're extraordinary. They're extraordinary that they have the
courage and not only just jump out of a plane,
they're jumping out out of a plane that is being
fired upon, you know what I mean. So, uh, these

(35:29):
heroes have given us our country. We have to on
this on this sacred weekend. We must remember them and
their families what they've done for us and and this
great country that we live in. So and I know
you're always preaching that to everybody, and I and I
thank you and Buck for doing it always.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Well.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
We feel fortunate to be able to talk to an
audience that has so many people who have given their
utmost along with their families to ensure the freedoms that
we all have. You mentioned not wanting to jump out
of an airplane. I've never jumped out of an airplane either,
But frank one of the baddest ass stories, and there
were a lot of those from the Greatest generation, the

(36:14):
majority of the guys that ended up in one hundred
and first Airborne and ended up jumping in many of
them on d Day. The first time they ever went
up in an airplane, they jumped out of it. Can
you imagine, like, if you, for anybody out there that
is listening to us right now, if you can remember
the first time that you were on an airplane. Many

(36:37):
of these guys are just farm kids. They hadn't hardly
been anywhere. They end up in the rangers here jumping
out of airplanes. They had never even been in airplanes before.
Think about this. You take off, You're in the sky
for the first time ever in your life, and they're like, okay, kid,
you're jumping out now. I mean, it's just a different

(36:59):
level of bravery and and balls. Frankly, then you see
almost anywhere.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Can you imagine, No, I can't imagine that. And that's
and that's why you know, we owe so much to
the Greatest Generation. I mean, God, what they did. But
you know what, you know, after the after nine to
eleven and when our men and women went over in
Afghanistan and Iraq and for that war for so many years,
you know, found out we still have the greatest generation. Uh,

(37:28):
these kids that went and you know to protect here
us here so another nine to eleven what't happened are
incredible and that's why the total of the Talents Foundation
were indebted to every single one of them, and why
we've made the promises that we've made, Clay, and you've
been to so many of our events. You see you

(37:48):
see the great heros that we have there and these
families once again have made the ultimate pay, the ultimate sacrifice.
And you know, we made a promise that you know,
goph forbid, these great heroes don't come home and they
leave behind a young family, we're going to deliver them
a mortgage free home and or if they come back
catastrophically injured, we're going to build them a mortgage free
smart home, you know, to give them back some of

(38:10):
their independence. And we've been doing that for quite a
while now. And you know this weekend, We're giving the
Way twenty five mortgage free home to some of these
great heroes that made the ultimate sacrifice in their families.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's a tremendous gesture. Especially we're sitting here now. I
think I've got the math right. We're coming up on
the twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven. Next year
will be twenty five, and I know there probably will
be even more attention being shined upon it. Can you
believe that it's been twenty four years since that day?

Speaker 6 (38:44):
No, I can't. It's you know, I look at my my,
my brother's My brother had five kids when he died
in nine to eleven when he made that heroic run
through the tunnel to the towers with his gear on
his back. And you know he had a youngest child
was nine months old. Now, that nine month old. Two

(39:04):
days ago we did a house dedication up and up
by Albany, New York, for a spun home for specialist
Mike Maynard. And he, my nephew, spoke at this. Now
he's twenty five, and he spoke, and he spoke so
beautifully about his daddy's Steve Junior, Steve Stephen still a

(39:26):
junior and I'm looking at him. I'm saying I was.
I couldn't even speak after him. I was so emotional,
And I'm saying, it's twenty four years later, but it's
so so painful, and the loss is still there. And
that's what all these families go through, not just nine
eleven families, all these gold Star families. You know that,
you know, all these police officers and firefires that die

(39:49):
around our country every year, and you know, this year
we're paying off over two hundred mortgages for these great heroes,
you know, all over the country. And you know, so
there's a big price that's he's made.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
No.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
I cannot believe it's twenty four years later, but we
must make sure that people don't forget. And you know,
on weekends like this, people I hope remember, you know.
I know they all want to have a nice barbecue,
me included. But we have this barbecue. We're we're talking
to my grandkids, you know, we're telling them all about
you know what happened. I was at a dinner last

(40:21):
night where they raised a lot of money for the
foundation they run by a guy who's a paratrooper himself
or a Vietnam War and Purple Heart recipient. And he
has this beautiful golf course country club in New Jersey,
Eagle Oaks, and he puts on this beautiful event. He
raised a half a million dollars in the Tunnel to
Dallas Foundation to make sure that we continue the work
that we do. And General Flynn was there, He was

(40:42):
the keynote speaker. And it was a it was a
beautiful night. But I had my grandchildren there. I had
my grandchildren there to make sure some of them some
are too young, but you know some of them are not.
They and they were there and they hear all these
stories of heroism. And you got to start teaching your
kids and your grandkids early on about America and why

(41:03):
we are the greatest country that ever existed.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Next year, President Trump will be in charge of the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of our declaration of independence,
really our founding as a country. Will also be the
twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven. You know President
Trump pretty well, you and I feel like I know
him pretty well at this point too. But for people
out there who don't know him, Memorial Day, what do

(41:31):
you think it means to President Trump? And what has
President Trump meant for tunnel to Towers in your experience
knowing him.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
Well, he is.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
He is a great supporter of Tunnel to Dallas. There's
no question about it. He loves what we're doing. I've
spoken to him several times about the foundation. He knows
everything about Tunnel to Tallas. This guy knows everything about
everything just about It's incredible the knowledge he has. But
he and such at a level. Let me just tell

(42:01):
you one quick story about President Trump. I got a
call around September eleventh, this past twenty twenty four, just
you know what, this past year, and he was coming
in to pay respect at ground zero and they asked
me to what she where should he go the President's

(42:23):
team and I said, you really don't need me for that,
but I'll be more than happy to help you. And
I suggested this one firehouse, which anybody that knows anything
about the sacrifice that was made would suggests this fire
house four and fifteen, which is a fire house that's
pretty close to ground zero. And so he goes.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
He goes there.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
He's found at ground zero with the reading of the names,
and we go over there and a motorcade to go
to meet the families they lost fifteen families plus at
this firehouse on nine to eleven, and he stays there
for an hour and talking to whatever families are there
that were of the fifteen that were there, holding their

(43:09):
you know, conversations with them, looking at the internal memorial
that they had inside the firehouse. He was just he
was so in tune to these families. And I'm one
of those families not from that firehouse. You know, my
brother was at Squad one. But he was so gracious
with his time and with his emotions.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
It was it was.

Speaker 6 (43:31):
Beautiful to watch. Nobody saw that. The press didn't cover that,
you know what I mean, So nobody saw that, I mean,
and he was doing all that, and that's where he
especially one on one. He's incredible about how much he
cares and if you if you've made a big sacrifice,
if you protected our country or our community, he's even
more in tune to it and and wants to help out.

(43:54):
So I know that he has big plans for the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this great country, and
I know that he wants to be part of that,
and I know he wants to help us with the
twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven. He wants to
help the Tunnel of Talis Foundation because we don't waste
people's money. You could see where it goes. It takes

(44:15):
care of mortgage free homes for these great heroes that
have done everything for us. So he is somebody I
can rely upon to help us on a mission to
do good and get the word out there to make
sure that we never forget no doubt.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
We're talking to Frank Seller, a Tunnel of the Towers.
I was with you in October of last year and
saw you raising millions of dollars at the Liberty Golf
Course in New Jersey. And then I was with you
just a couple of months ago down at Trump West
Palm Beach, and I saw you raise millions of dollars more.
You don't stop. But for people out there that are

(44:54):
listening to us and are interested in helping you to
help as many people as possible that are making sack
sometimes the ultimate sacrifice, often the ultimate sacrifice for our country,
how can they help?

Speaker 6 (45:07):
Well, it's simple, go to t TOWO t dot org.
Obviously it stands for Tunnel to Towers, So t the
number two T dot org and donate eleven dollars a month.
It's not a lot. We're not asking you to do
but a lot, but you should do something. Everybody who's listening,
it's your responsibility to do something to these great families

(45:29):
that are left behind or if they're catastrophically injured, when
we give them a mortgage free smart home, it is
your responsibility. Tunnel to Towers are made a promise that
we're going to take care of every family who dies
in the line of duty and leaves a young family behind.
We're gonna pay off their mortgages, we're gonna give a
mortgage free home, and we're gonna do that for catastrophically injured.
And now you know we're doing for homeless veterans. Over

(45:50):
ten thousand homeless veterans off the street the last two years.
I just finished. We just bought nineteen new properties. We
broke around Atlanta, brading in Florida, Memphis, Bayville, New Jersey, Harrisburg, Denver, Buffalo,
New York, Detroit, in South Carolina, Jacksonville, Florida, Orlando, Sacramento, Cleveland, Bronx,

(46:13):
West Palm Beach in Puerto Rico, We're building a homeless
veteran village in Puerto Rico, because you cannot believe how
many great heroes have served us from Puerto Rico, served
Dark Country Jackson, New Jersey, Portland, Charlotte, Kansas City, Seattle, Dallas, Austin,
Long Island, Las Vegas, and San Juan, Puerto Rico. Again,
we are doing this all over our country because there's

(46:35):
too many homeless veterans out there in the street and
it's disgusting and we can't let that be. So, you know,
we have a lot of work ahead of us, but
not eleven dollars a month. Fire Department says, many hands
makes slight work. So go to tetwo t dot org
and be part of those many hands so we could
take care of these great heroes.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Brank, I appreciate everything you do. Look forward to seeing
you again soon. And i'd encourage everybody to echo just
what he said t twot dot org and join us
in giving a little bit to help a lot.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
A bless you and God bless America.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we're rolling through
the Friday edition of the program headed into Memorial Day weekend.
I hope you guys are going to be safe wherever
you are across the country. We are joined now by
West Virginia Governor Patrick Morrissey. Appreciate him joining on with

(50:00):
us right now. And there's a lot we're going to
dive into with you, Governor, but right off the top,
you wanted to tell us all about what you've got
going on when it comes to helping veterans become teachers.
It's a very great idea, particularly here on Memorial Day
weekend as we celebrate veterans who gave the utmost. Where

(50:21):
did the idea come from, what is it like and
how is it going so far?

Speaker 7 (50:26):
Well, first of all, thank you so much for having
me on. And this is not an idea that I
came up with, but you know I'm smart enough to
learn from people who are spending a lot of time
on these topics. And for those who don't know, there
used to be a federal program of troops to teachers
provision and program a number of years ago. But we

(50:49):
had a couple of legislators who were veterans who really
were thinking a lot about different ways that our former
troops could get into the classrooms because they know that
West Virginia is the state where we have a shortage
of qualified teachers, and so a number of these veterans,
over a multi year period, kept trying to push a

(51:11):
bill that would allow veterans to get into the classroom quicker.
And as you know, a lot of times in various states,
there's a slowdown of how long did it take to
get into the classroom, have to go through eighteen different
hoops and certifications to get through. We said, look, we
need to start to move that a lot faster. And

(51:34):
so now under this new Troops to Teachers law, we
have a chance to get these veterans into the schools quicker.
We're going to bypass some of the red tape that
exists right now. I'd like to get them even quicker.
But this is a way we begin to address our
school teacher shortage. It's also a way that we reflect

(51:54):
the great experience that these veterans have.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Pretty amazing.

Speaker 7 (52:00):
You're looking for leadership, organizational skills, and knowledge.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
The ability to relate to people.

Speaker 7 (52:07):
I mean, you can't really do much better than vets.
So we thought it was a great bill. Kudos out
to Tom Willis and Bill right noouer to the people
that we're driving in the legislature, and you know, when
I heard about this bill, we got involved and we
knew that we had to tout it so that we
can get more vets into the schools.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
No doubt, West Virginia is maybe the reddest state in
the country. Now, how would you assess what West Virginians
think of the job Trump has done so far?

Speaker 7 (52:37):
Look, I think West Virginians are very happy with President Trump,
and they know that he's shaking things up in Washington, DC.
He's striving for America's energy independence, which helps West Virginia
tremendously because West Virginia is America's energy state. He's looking
for ways to take on the swamp and return power

(52:57):
back to the states and to the people. That he
has common sense, conservative ideas that we also appreciate in
West Virginia. So look, I think he's doing very very well.
You know, we had a lot of positive things in
his first term. I think it is even stronger here
in his second term of office. So I was just

(53:17):
at the White House a little bit earlier today and
I saw the President and a lot of cabinet members yesterday.
And let me tell you, these guys are working their
tails off for the American people. And I know that
West Virginia is going to benefit and it's been a
pleasure partnering with them. You know what a change going
from Biden to Trump for West Virginia. It makes all

(53:40):
the difference in the world.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
No doubt. And I'm curious. You've lived in West Virginia
for I think twenty some odd years now. I know
you're originally from the East Coast, but what do you
think the evolution of West Virginia's voting history. I live
here in Tennessee, and certainly there's been an evolution here too,
but from a place where Demock were rock ribbed and
felt very confident that they were going to always get

(54:04):
those votes to a place now which, as I mentioned,
I mean right up there with Wyoming and a few
other states voted Trump and for you voted Red as
aggressively almost as any state in the nation. What does
that evolution reflect, not only about West Virginia, but I
think to a certain degree, and certainly Joe Manchin would
reflect this too, the collapse of the Democrat Party when

(54:26):
it comes to just being a party that normal people
with common sense supported.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
I think that's right.

Speaker 7 (54:33):
Look, all discussions have to start with the fact that
you had a series of presidents on the Democrat side
that sold out West Virginia.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
When you have people.

Speaker 7 (54:44):
Openly talking about ending the use of coal and showing
great disrespect for our energy resources, that's never going to
push on a favorable light in West Virginia.

Speaker 5 (54:54):
And we had that.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
Even if you go back to Gore the two thousand race,
many people may remember that George Bush won in West Virginia,
and everyone talks about Florida being the difference maker in
two thousands, but in reality, West Virginia's electoral votes were
critically important and for a long time prior to that,

(55:16):
we're just considered locks in the Democrat column. So I
would say that coal and our energy resources and just
the common sense conservative values that people show that the
Democrat Party.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Has gone so far off the rails.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
And I think people know that, you know, whether it's
men playing sports with women or some of these crazy
issues pretending to DEI. You know, we actually were doing
some cleanup of DEI. Even in West Virginia when I
came in, there's still some DEI we were working to
clean up. So I would say that West Virginians are

(55:52):
looking for common sense in their government. But we care
about our freedoms and we want to have the ability
to really grow, lift up our standard of living, driver
educational attainment. And I think President Trump wants that, and
people knows that while the state has moved, no one
is taking anything for granted. I certainly won't, you know.

(56:14):
I want to work hard and run through the finish
line every single day to help West Virginia grow. And
that's why we're talking about doing our backyard brawl against
all the states that we touch, lifting ourselves up economically,
really improving our educational system, and getting our workforce participation
numbers up. We're doing a lot of good things, but

(56:37):
we know that the state has evolved, but in part
because the Democrats absolutely lefts in West Virginia, and people
now know that got some folks that really care about
the state's future in charge.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Is Country Roads the best song about a state anywhere
in the country.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
You know, it's a great song.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
And I don't know you guys know this, but during
the Super Bowl there was a commercial and it was
by Rocket Mortgage, and you started hearing Country Roads, and
I thought it was pretty unbelievable because when they were
talking about it, I first thought it was a West
Virginia tourism commercial because in all its country roads.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
And talking about West Virginia, But.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
In reality it was a commercial bank and we were
really we loved it. I mean we thought it was incredible.
And wherever you go across the globe, people know that
there's an indomitable spirit coming out of West Virginia Country
Roads reflects that.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
Guys. One thing I do want to put on your
radar screen.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
September thirteenth, we have a backyard Brawl football game between.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
WU and PAT.

Speaker 7 (57:51):
But the reason I mentioned this to you guys less
about the sports, but all leading up to it, we're
gonna backyard brawl economic announcements that whole week in Morgantown
and in West Virginia talking about the steps West Virginia's
taking to really climb up.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
In the rankings, our comebacks beginning.

Speaker 7 (58:11):
So we've got a lot of incredible history and culture
in West Virginia and now we're taking on some tough challenges.
West Virginia's on the rise, and we're pretty psyched about it.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
It's a beautiful state, fabulous place to be. I went
to a wedding there and everybody got drunk in the
final song of the night was Country Roads, which was
a pretty awesome experience. So well, you will have you
on that week because that is a great rive Oriama
College football guy, and everybody knows the West Virginia pit
is about as good as it gets. We'll have you
on that week to share some of the good moves

(58:44):
that you guys are making economically in the state. And
we appreciate the time and hope you and your family
have a good Memorial Day weekend. Governor.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
Hey sip to you guys, appreciate you having me on today,
and Happy Memorial Day to everyone listening.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Appreciate that. Thanks so much. Buck is not in today,
as some of you may have noticed, but I bet
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Knicks play tonight against the Indiana Pacers and they had
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