Daily Review With Clay and Buck - May 28 2025

Buck's Health Gratitude Buck Sexton returns to the mic while Clay Travis is on vacation. Buck shares a personal health update, recounting a severe stomach virus that sidelined him over Memorial Day weekend. He reflects on the importance of health and gratitude: "The Healthy Person Has a Thousand Wants. The sick person has one." The show then pivots to major political topics, starting with a critical discussion of the so-called “Big Beautiful Bill” associated with Donald Trump. Buck explores internal GOP debates over the bill, highlighting concerns from prominent conservatives, including Elon Musk. He emphasizes the need for constructive criticism within the conservative movement and shares insights from WH Senior Advisor Stephen Miller, who defends the bill’s merits. A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to the ongoing controversy surrounding President Joe Biden’s cognitive decline. WH Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt argues that Biden’s condition was deliberately concealed by the mainstream media and Democratic operatives, framing it as one of the most significant political cover-ups in modern U.S. history. They call for accountability and congressional investigations into who was truly making decisions in the Biden White House, with speculation pointing to figures like Senator Elizabeth Warren and Ron Klain. Trump vs. Harvard The conversation also touches on the Trump vs. Harvard legal battle, which Buck frames as a broader cultural fight against elite institutions. He supports Trump’s efforts to challenge the ideological dominance of Ivy League schools and praises the president’s willingness to confront entrenched power structures. He argues that elite institutions like Harvard have become bastions of left-wing ideology and unconstitutional racial discrimination, citing the Supreme Court’s ruling against affirmative action. Buck defends the move as a necessary step to hold universities accountable for their admissions practices and ideological bias, especially in light of recent antisemitism controversies on campus. He draws parallels to NPR and other federally funded institutions, asserting that taxpayer dollars should not support organizations that defy constitutional principles. Dogs Rule A heartfelt story about Buck’s Australian Labradoodle, highlighting the emotional intelligence of dogs and their ability to comfort during illness—a relatable and touching segment for pet lovers. The conversation quickly pivots to pressing political issues, with a deep dive into the controversial “Big Beautiful Bill.” Buck critiques the limitations of executive power, the partisan nature of judicial opposition to President Donald Trump, and the structural challenges in Congress that hinder meaningful fiscal reform. He emphasizes the urgency of addressing the national debt, warning of a looming fiscal crisis if entitlement and automatic spending remain untouched. Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson voices his support for raising the debt ceiling only if it includes significant spending cuts and a return to pre-pandemic budget levels. Buck also references insights from Stephen Miller, who outlines the bill’s major components: historic welfare and tax reforms, aggressive energy exploration, and strong border security measures—all while aiming to reduce the deficit. However, Buck remains skeptical, noting that even with these reforms, the scale of the national debt ($36–37 trillion) and annual deficits over $1 trillion pose serious long-term risks. AL Sen. Tommy Tuberville Guest AL Senator Tommy Tuberville, who discusses the Senate’s role in shaping the bill, his concerns about lingering Green New Deal subsidies, and his upcoming run for governor of Alabama. Tuberville stresses the need for fiscal discipline, entitlement reform, and a balanced approach to energy policy. He also touches on the challenges of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) in col

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck. I am back
at the mic today. Clay on vacation with his family
in Florida. As you know, so I was pleased that
my recovery was at least fast enough that I didn't
interfere with this vacation. I'm meant to be on the
show yesterday. Let me tell you where we're going, and

(00:27):
then I'll give you a little update on just what
happened there. You'll probably appreciate your day more when you
hear about how my days have been lately. We have
the Big Beautiful Bill. It's definitely big, but is it beautiful?
Some people have some questions about it, and I mean
people that are big Trump supporters and that share a
lot of the values that we talk about on this program.

(00:49):
So that's something that we're going to be diving into
a little bit more. Elon Musk not thrilled with the
Big Beautiful Now, keep in mind, it's not finished. This
is all part of the discussion, right We need to
have this discussion and in fact, I think at this
era of Trump, people who want the best for the
country through the Trump agenda need to be willing and

(01:14):
need to feel like it's okay to speak out and
be a coach for our side, right, you know, not
trying to be a critic. You're not tearing anything down,
but you're saying, look, I think this might be a
slightly improved or slightly better version, but I'll bring you
all of that. Stephen Miller was laying down some facts
on the bill too. He says, the criticism of it
isn't isn't fair. I'll give you the specifics of that.

(01:35):
We shall discuss. I know, yesterday's a lot of talk
on the show, so I could listen well to degree
I could do anything, but I was listening when I could.
A lot of talk about the COVID vaccines. We've got
some more on that, and the overall lying of the
Democrats now which stretches back for years. They weren't just
wrong on things, they misled you. Trump v. Harvard, I

(01:55):
think is also really interesting, and I want to make
the case for why I think this is also Biden's
cover up of the cover up of Biden's decline. It
just keeps getting I don't know. On the one hand,
it's outrageous. On the other hand, this is exactly what
we thought all along. We did whole shows here where
we talked about Obama's third term, the shadow presidency of advisors. Now,

(02:21):
maybe the only detail that's new or interesting is perhaps
some of these Biden advisors, who weren't necessarily calling the
shots under Obama, were actually enjoying the fact that they
got to call shots under Biden and therefore or in
place of Biden, and therefore they didn't even want perhaps
the steadier hands in the Democrat Party, the more cunning

(02:44):
minds involved, which would explain a lot of Biden policy.
So we'll get into all that before we dive into that, though.
First I'll just tell you, Yeah, it was over the
Memorial Day weekend, and I did do some reflection on
I know you all did too, about what that weekend
is for why we take the time. Yes, it is about,

(03:06):
first and foremost the sacrifices made by those who served,
and it is an opportunity to be with family, to
be with friends, but also to think about that. And
I was though, I was just having a particularly and
I tell you this because I want you to perhaps
just enjoy your day a little bit more. I was
having a pretty just a lovely weekend with my family,

(03:28):
and I was walking with my dog, Ginger, and I
thought to myself, you know, I love my wife, I
love my new beautiful baby, love this job. You know,
I'm a great family. I was feeling really blessed, and
I was taking a moment to think about that, and
also thinking about those who gave so much. But as

(03:49):
I was walking down the street and feeling like things
were going really well, I don't know how to say
this other than out of nowhere, I had to sprint,
I mean full on sprint. I had the dog with me.
I had to sprint home and rush to the bathroom,
where I spent basically the next forty eight hours. At
one point, I actually had a pillow on the floor

(04:09):
and uh and brought a little blanket because I was like,
you know what, I'm not even gonna pretend like I'm
going to leave this little space.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
You know, I talked to my docs. I think it's
probably some kind of like a neurovirus or an astrovirus
or one of these things. But I'll just tell you
enjoy if you're healthy, you've got a great family, you're
having a good day. Enjoy it, because nothing will make
you appreciate your day to day life. I think faster
than to be hit with a really nasty stomach flow

(04:37):
out of nowhere, out of nowhere. I didn't even eaten
that day. Think I didn't even eed it. I just
was walking the dog like woken up. Oh man, it
was absolutely brutal. I have so much sympathy for anybody
out there who has had has had something similar, or
there are other things I'm telling you I can handle,
you know, orthopedic injuries. I've you know, I hurt my
knee last year. Yeah, yeah, I mean you gotta take

(05:00):
pain colors. I'm you know, any injury, any sickness isn't fun.
But when you get rocked by a stomach bug, you
are just I don't know what, You're just in another world,
like you can't function. And so I'm a good bit
better now. I'm not drinking Krockett today because which is
sad for me because I need to avoid the caffeine.
But I've got my Crockett over Mountain mug and I'm

(05:21):
half Gatorade half water. I know everyone always says Pedialyte.
I personally, I don't know. I don't, I don't. I
just I like half gatorade half water. Cuts the sugar
a little bit. Actually use sugar fore gatorade, so that's
not even really an issue. Anyway. I'm back, I'm in
pretty I'm pretty steady feet, I think for the most part,
and I am once. I am so grateful to be
back on the show talking to all of you. Honestly,

(05:43):
I think if somebody could, somebody could have given me
an absolutely outrageous ask yesterday morning to say, if you
write a check for the following I'll make you feel
better and you could do ready today, I think I
would have given them my life savings. I was so miserable.
It was so hard, man, it was rough anyway, So
enjoy your day if you are healthy, you know, if

(06:04):
you're stuck in traffic, if you've got you know, I
don't know you and your wife, or you and your
husband had a little bit of a squabble, or one
of your kids is talking back, or someone's being annoying
at work. Yeah, those are all frustrating things. But you,
my friend, are most likely not doubled over next to
the toilet for forty eight hours and that is like
the worst thing. It was really, man, it was it

(06:25):
was rough. So I'm glad to be back, and I
I really I'm almost giddy how much I appreciate being
able to talk to all of you. At least it's
not an upper respiratory so my voice is pretty okay.
So I just wanted to tell you that was Yeah,
to take those moments of appreciation whenever you can. I
forget who who's accredited with this, but it's so true

(06:46):
and I really was feeling this last couple of days.
The healthy person has a thousand wants. The sick person
has won. And when you are in rough shape, and
I know people say, oh, but you know you knew
you're gonna get better. Yeah, I'm not. It wasn't like
this wasn't stage four cancer. I understand. I'm just saying,
in the moment, when you are really miserable in a
lot of it's all you can think about. So if

(07:08):
you are, if you are healthy today, I'm just telling you,
just take a moment to be like wow. And I
don't even mean perfect health, right, not like your knee
hurts or something whatever. I mean, if you are able
to function normally. It is a blessed day, and it
is a good day. And that's just that's what I
want to share with you. All right, let's get into
the Abiden decline issue. First of all, Caroline Levitt over

(07:29):
at the White House has raised you know, this story
keeps on going and there's a reason for it. I'll
say this before I get to Caroline's statement here. The
reason we're going through this now is not this is
not for nothing. It is a reshuffling of the Democrat
power structure before your very eyes. Who's the leader? What

(07:52):
are the primary media sources? What kind of credibility outside
of the delusional faithful do those media sources actually have?
Do people? You know, there's a lot of people who
even if they disagree with say the New York Times,
or even if they don't really agree with what they
view as the more apparent editorial bent of say CNN,

(08:14):
they trust them as basic sources of news. I know
some of you are going to laugh at that, but
there are people out there who, well, what is the
case now when you miss the biggest story, certainly of
the post COVID era and in presidential politics, I don't
think there's been a bigger presidential scandal than this. I

(08:35):
don't know. You'd have to go back way deep in
history and people who say, oh, but what about Woodrow
Wilson or oh what about FDR? Not even close, not
even close to this level, because there it was actually hidden.
That's the huge difference, right. It's one thing when you
can tell everybody, oh, the president's fine, and they have

(08:56):
no way of knowing. With this, the dementia was hiding
in plain sight because the media had just kept online
to you. It was I know the term gaslighting is
kind of overused, but it really was the biggest gas
lighting experience I can think of in this in this country.

(09:17):
I don't know, I've never thought of anything. I can't
think of anything that was anywhere near this. And then
we have to ask some questions like, well, what about
the legality of what was done. It's not okay to
have a president who can't function and then have people
around him making decisions that are presidential prerogative. That's not okay.
It's not like oh yeah, whoopsie. No, there needs to

(09:41):
be accountability for this. And this is what Caroline Levitt,
this is cind E Levin was talking about at the
White House.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Player, he's demanding answers, and one of the things he
is going to continue to push for answers on is
who the heck was running the country over the past
four years. And you just talked about it in your monologue,
and I'm glad to hear it, because this is truly
the greatest political scandal how our country has ever seen.
We had unelected radical left White House staffers who nobody

(10:06):
knew their names, running the most powerful country in the
history of the world, and the Democrat Party was in
a complete alliance to cover it up, and the mainstream
media was right along with them. They were asking Joe
Biden what his favorite ice cream was rather than asking
him whether or not he was suited to run the country.
And so we need answers on what took place over

(10:27):
the past four years we do.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
We need those answers, and we can get them because
the people in charge now have the ability to if
they want, put people under earth before Congress. This should
be something that we get to the bottom of. This
is not fighting the last war, fighting the last election.
This is what did these people do and how did

(10:54):
they get away with it? To the degree that they did.
Part of the challenge here, I think is that for
all of us who saw this for what it was,
there's a bit of a yeah, we already know with
all of this, you know, I know, we talked about it.
Clay and I talked about this every day for years.
Pretty much. We knew the decline was there. We knew

(11:14):
that the Biden advisers, we can go back and pull
I want to bore you endless sound bites from a
year ago, two years ago, three years ago. I'm saying
Biden or whoever's running the country on his behalf, Biden
or his advisors. In fact, my argument for why they
would push Biden as far as they did in the election,
and of course he was supposed to be their reelection candidate,

(11:36):
my argument for it all along was that it really
wasn't Biden making the decisions. It was the apparatus term
that I use for this pretty frequently. So I went
into the twenty twenty four election with a baseline assumption
that Biden has severe cognitive decline. It is so obvious
that he has people around him who are the ones

(11:57):
pushing all the policies, doing all the actual decision making
for things that affect the country. And then after years
of talking about this, they lose this election, and they
lose in part because of the disastrous debated and putting
Kamala forward. And then they turn around they say to us, wow,
look what we discovered. Look what you discovered. I'll be

(12:19):
honest with you. I'm always honest with you, but I'll
just say it. A lot of the people that were
involved in this on the journalism so called journalism side,
they shouldn't work in this industry. They should go do
something else. It is in fact okay for somebody who
has been working in propaganda at CNN or to go

(12:40):
find something else that is more suitable to their skill set,
because it's definitely not finding facts and speaking truth to power.
I mean, if you can't get fired for this, or
rather if you can continue on and have a media
career where your whole thing is not you know, you're
not like a state end up comedian or something. Your

(13:01):
whole your whole reason for existing, for getting up and
doing what you do is because you're without fear or favor,
finding facts and providing them to the public. That is
just that is a total lie. This has exposed that
as an out and out lie. So on the media
side of it, I know they just want to move forward,
but this is part of why they're talking about it now.

(13:23):
They want to be able to say, we've done with that,
move on, We've dealt with that move on. That's what
they want to be able to say, and they'll do
it pretty quickly here. And that's why this book, which
also doesn't name any names, I mean in a meaningful way.
This is what I've said all along. How can you
have accountability when it's just anonymous sources telling the story
that we all knew all along. This is why we're

(13:44):
not having Tapper on the show. I don't need to
hear it. I've seen enough to know exactly what he's
going to say, and I knew what the whole thing
was going to be beforehand. Anyway, I think it's gross.
I think it's wrong. I have no respect for this
effort to suddenly show us what we already knew, but
you're just giving us more gossip around it. We already

(14:05):
knew all of this, so now you're going and asking
people and they can do a little petty score settling
when it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, I'm sorry it doesn't
fly with me. It doesn't fly at all. But who
was the part of this that I think is going
to be a bigger issue going forward. Who was calling
the shots around the Biden White House? Interesting from a

(14:31):
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(15:14):
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Speaker 5 (16:10):
Show.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
As I sit here with all of you, still in
recovery from my little stomach bug, I know that yesterday,
to the degree I was able to follow the news
or pay attention to anything that there was the announcement
about the Trump administration trying to end all federal funding

(16:33):
the remaining federal funding to Harvard, and I know there
are people. Here's the way this argument seems to go
out there with some people. And I see this particularly
on x formerly known as Twitter, or you'll have people say,
but what about when they want to do this to
a conservative college? And then I always want to say,

(16:56):
are you paying attention? What is the conservative college that's
getting hundreds of millions of dollars from the federal government
doesn't exist? So you know this is it's so funny.
There's this assumption, Oh, but they'll do stuff to us too. No, no, no,
They've already been doing this stuff. That's the point. It's
a little bit like Trump's approach to China on trade.

(17:19):
People go, no, you can't do anything to China. What
if they start doing bad things to us on trade?
In response, they're already doing bad stuff to us as
much as they really can on trade. It's just a
question of are we willing to do something back so
that they stop, or that there's at least some cost
to this. That's the attitude, that's the mentality people should have,

(17:41):
certainly on the right about what's going on with Harvard.
And also, I mean understand this, like why did Barack
Obama go to Harvard Law School and was the editor
of Harvard Law Review, even though I don't think he
ever wrote anything at Harvard Law Review, or if he did,
it was like one thing. So they just you know,

(18:02):
he was a figurehead after going to Occidental College for
undergrad for a while and then he's transferred to Columbia. Anyway,
I remember the Obama bio pretty well, why do you
go to Harvard? Well, we went to Harvard because the
whole point is you go there and you're supposed to
be really smart and the elite and in charge. Right. Well,
Harvard had created over a long period of time, and

(18:24):
I think Harvard used to be, I'm sure a great place,
but over i would say the last forty years or so,
in the affirmative action era and the era of the
left wing ascendancy on campus, that it's not. I know,
there's always been left wing stuff on campus. People say,
what about the sixties protests, Well, it turned into everything
became left. I mean, I haven't really spent any time

(18:46):
on a college campus since I was an undergrad myself
twenty years ago. But you know, they were constantly comparing
Bush to Hitler. That was a thing. People forget this
now they compare Trump to Hitler now, but they used
to actually say, because of Afghanistan and Iraq Wars that

(19:07):
Trump was Hitler. These people are nuts. But the left
wing completely overran these campuses and there was really nothing left.
And they enforced doctrine with the zeal of the Stazi
in East Germany. I mean, they really make it so
that if you say things that are unapproved, they just

(19:28):
make your life really uncomfortable. They kick you off campus.
So there's already they're doing the bad stuff. Now here
is Trump. By the way, I'll continue on with this
line of argument. Here's Trump. This is cut twenty three
talking about the Harvard fight. Play it.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
They look Harvard, it's been a disaster. They've taken five
plus by the way, five billion dollars plus five billion.
Nobody knew that they were making this cut. If we
didn't do this, nobody would have. We would have never
found this out.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Pamp.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
They're taking five billion dollars and I'd rather see that
money go to trade schools. And by the way, they're
totally anti semitic at Harvard, as you know, and some
other colleges to in all fairness, to them, and it's
been exposed.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's very exposed. It's more specifically on the college campuses
on that issue of the anti Semitism, as I've been
saying all along, and I think this has now become
something that we discuss, and this show is somewhat known
for putting out there. I'd never heard anyone else make
the argument before I made it here on this program

(20:30):
talking with Clay on the air about how the American
left views Israel Palestine as a race conflict essentially, and
that all the stuff about oh nineteen forty eight and
nineteen sixty seven and UN Resolution two four two and
three three eight and the Bow four Declaration, all these
things that you can no, no, no, it's white people are

(20:51):
pressing brown people. That's what the campuses think. And that's
why you have all these groups that know nothing and
care nothing about the Middle East that are so very
you know, they get to be super sanctimodious, super self righteous.
The virtue signaling can be off the charts, and the
other people talking about, you know, how much they care
about kaza. I would note I've seen some left, some

(21:12):
left wing media types in the last few days bring
you've seen this bringing up Sudan. Where have you heard
where have you heard that talked about other than on
this program? Right, just saying we're ahead on a lot
of this stuff. We we were saying here that the
left views the Israel Palestine or you know, Hamas Israel

(21:34):
thing as a race conflict because that fits into the
very neat boxes that they set up in their minds
of how these even though that's I mean, it's wrong
on the facts, it's just it's absurd, but that's how
they view it, and that's why they feel so morally superior,
even when they know nothing about it, and they they
just inherently think non white means oppressed. That's that's just

(21:57):
their view. That's what they've been because on campus, that's
what you're told. Non white oppressed doesn't matter. You could
be one of the richest athletes in the world, you
could be a president of the United States. Non white oppressed.
That is the really the I think, the central ethos
that holds the left together and the Democrat Party overall.

(22:20):
That is the thing that you know, collectivism, moral relativism,
and uh, you know, and this whole notion of what
is not what is non white or who those who
are non white are inherently oppressed. So that's that's a
big part of what you see going on on the

(22:41):
Harvard campuses. That that is a all these college campuses
is a major aspect of it. But then I also
get back to this, because people say, well, why you know,
what's Harvard supposed to do? Trump's gon. Trump is not saying,
you know you better, you better start teaching things in
that Shakespeare on a one class the way I want

(23:01):
you to, or else this school by our own Supreme
Court's ruling, which look directly at Harvard, I might add,
that's why Harvard is in the crosshairs. This school is
engaged in racial discrimination. That is what is going on.
It is clear as day if Harvard said, as a

(23:23):
matter of policy, we will no longer take anybody who
is you know, Hispanic. Let's just put that out there
for a second. If Harvard just said, sorry, we'll take
everybody except the Hispanics, or if we're gonna take Hispanics,
they have to have perfect SATs, perfect grades, and be
in the like the the one percentile to even consider

(23:46):
getting in here of all of our applicants, not like nationally.
And that's the way it's gonna be. People would say, well,
hold on a second, that's not right. Why have you
created a specific, a specific entry requirement for people based
on their ethnicity, their their skin color. That's wrong, and

(24:09):
they they would be right. I think that it was
this recognition back when I was in high school and
I had a kind of unique experience because I was
in a very academically rigorous, scholarship high school where most
of the students, you know, I came from a comfortable background.

(24:30):
I had a successful, you know, Wall Street dad, but
I was, you know, not some super rich kid or anything.
But a lot of the kids there came from low
income and sort of lower middle income households, and a
lot of them were white. And this was the thing.
And when they would apply to schools, and because everybody
knew too, it was a very intense pressure cooker kind

(24:52):
of a school academically, and everyone knew who was like
the top of the class and who was you know,
who was going to be. It was one hundred and
thirty kids, I would say in my class, and you know,
we knew who the top ten kids were. And if
you were a top ten kid and you were white
or Asian, we had a lot of Filipinos, a lot

(25:13):
of South Koreans because you had to be Catholic to go,
so not a lot, no one really that I can
remember from like mainland China, but we had a lot
of Filipinos, obviously a big Catholic population. South Koreans is
a robust Catholic population there too. And I just remember
if you were white or one of the Asian kids,
even if you were top ten or top twenty in

(25:35):
the whole class, which meant you were you know, it
had to be a national merit scholar, no question, you
know you you would have been the top of any
school anywhere in the country. I mean, I think Regis
has like the I don't know, I mean it was
the Stuyvesant kids always say they have higher average SATs.
But we were right there and Stuyvesant's like number three
in the country or something. So some STI people are
probably listening, Yeah we beat you. Maybe you did. But

(25:59):
if you were as if you were a Hispanic or
black and you were the number like fifty kid, it
was which ivy League school do you want.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
To go to?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
And I remember looking at that and recognizing that phenomenon
saying that's just not right. It is very straightforward, just
not right. And people would say, oh, but what about
the legacy of slavery. Okay, well, first of all, I
still disagree that that means that today in you know,
the year twenty twenty five there, but put that aside
for a second. So why the Latino kids? Why are they?

(26:30):
And this is explicitly by the numbers. Harvard does this.
Harvard discriminates on the basis of race. People say, what's
Harvard supposed to do? How's Harvard supposed to you know,
make the concessions necessary to get more federal funding. Stop
being racist, Harvard. They won't do it. They won't do it.

(26:52):
That's how much they It is worth hundreds of millions
of dollars to the people who run Harvard to continue
to tell some poor white kid from Appalachia who has
you know, is like the pride of his town and
you know, is the you know, he's got like a
one forty IQ and sixteen hundred set and everything. Yeah,

(27:13):
I don't know, we have any space for you, but
we do have room for people who have far lesser
grades and far lesser boards, who are a different skin
color than you. That the fact that we had to
accept this as long as we did in this country.
Keep in mind, it is unconstitutional now. It is unconstitutional

(27:34):
to do this. Is not just now. I've been making
this argument pretty much my entire life, but certainly for
now fifteen years of doing media consistently, this is wrong.
This is wrong. They can't win this argument. And then
you get people playing all these games too. It's like, oh, well,
you know, my my grandmother is from Polynesia, so I'm
actually a I'm applying to school as like a Pacific islander.

(27:56):
I know somebody who did that to get into Stanford
just see you, and she got in. Not an impressive
student got in. I'm a quarter Pacific islander. You know.
It's like, by the way, I think her I think
her mom might have even been from like Hawaii or so.
It's just the whole thing. It's a scam. It's a scam.
It's absurd and we all know it. And by the way,
this is true in the hiring process too. It's racist.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
It's wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Supreme Court looked at this. Sorry, this is the system.
We have not allowed to do this anymore. Harvard still
wants to do it. They refuse to change. So back
to my initial premise of when someone's doing bad things
to you, if you do something in response, you're not
the cause of the problems. Harvard is unconstitutionally discriminating and

(28:42):
also teaching all of his kids to hate America and
also engaged in a lot of pandering to the anti
Semitic pro Hamas element on kayd all these things, why
should the administration. Remember, the administration is not saying we're
sending in the uh, you know, we're sending in the
you know, the marine to shut down your campus. You're
not no, of course, First Amendment. But they're not entitled

(29:04):
the hundreds of millions of dollars of funds from the government.
This is what people you know, this is like the
same argument with NPR. Well, what is the argument the
government's money? The government should have never been giving this money,
especially something of NPR. And now it says, you know what,
we're not going to give them money anymore. They don't
have So they had the discretion to give them money,
but not the discretion to stop. And you I know
there's already some judge who's like, you can't do this.

(29:28):
Supreme Court's gonna have to step in once again. But
Harvard could make this whole thing a lot easier on itself.
But it is so important to them because they they
have built this whole edifice of self congratulation and smugness
around DEI and around diversity is our strength and all

(29:49):
this other stuff. And they've first of all engaged in
discrimination to do this. But also so much of what
has been excellent in these institutions has been uh, you know,
just giving up in favor of this left wing religious
belief of DEI. And that's why they're so upset. And

(30:10):
that's what's going on now. I say, keep this fight going,
keep this fight going. Trump is doing the right thing.
These schools, you know, they give their and I would say, well,
why did Obama go there? Because the whole point is
you get to go to one of these places, and
you're inherently Harvard gets to pick and choose who the
elites are. Well to anyone who knows anything, by the way,
you should not be impressed. I mean, I see some

(30:30):
of these. There's like a national security analyst who I
see on CNN sometimes and I used to know when
I was there, who is like teaches at Harvard in
one of the schools. It's a dumbass. I mean truly
a dumbass. And you're like, oh, buck, can you intersit down?
You and her sit down. He's a professor at Harvard
and like the Kennedy School or something. Can you intersit down?
And let's do it. Let's just do like an overall
knowledge test for the world in national security. She gets

(30:53):
smoked by the buckster smoked and I know this person
teaches at Harvard's a Harvard professor. Yeah, give me a break.
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so I always have to remember that there's like a
few million of you and then my wife too, so
I have to be, you know, on like really good
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(32:19):
just gonna tell you true. I was a bulldog guy.
I love English bulldog, French bulldog, any squash, you know,
the squishy face. Not not really so much into the
chow chouse. I'm sorry. I know some people love the
chaw they can be a little little bit of biers.
I love all dogs though, as you know, beautiful dogs.
I love all dogs. And I wasn't really a doodle

(32:40):
guy and my wife goes, no, no, no. You know,
her family they got it's like a doodle sanctuary. They
got doodles, doodles of doodles in my for my in laws.
They got doodles everywhere. And so I said, all right, fine,
so honey, you know, happy wife, happy life. Uh you know,
we've been married a year. You want let's get Let's
get exactly the dog you want. I love that silly,
little fluffy dog so much. I don't want to tell

(33:02):
you all right. She's great Australian labradoodle. And when I
was sick, she would come. She never does this. She
would come and she would lie in the doorway of
the of the guest bedroom that we have, which is
gonna eventually be the baby's room. But I would lie
in the door. She would lie in the doorway, just
kind of a little vigil, just keeping me company. And yeah,

(33:27):
it's just amazing. I And people say, oh, do you
really think dogs know when you're sick? Yeah, they absolutely know.
Dogs know a lot more about what's going on with us,
just because they can't communicate in English or in any
language of that matter down here in Miami. It might
be Spanish, whatever, it doesn't matter in whatever language that
they would be communicating with us. They have They have

(33:49):
an incredible not just I think, kind of intuition about
their owners to spend so much time and are so
focused on you, they can their sense of smell is
it is true, really superhuman in the sense that it
is thousands of times more powerful than what we have.
Dogs have been trained to be able to smell cancer dog.

(34:10):
It's I think they're now training dogs smell fentanyl at
the border, which is also very useful. But anyway, I
just this this little dog. She was so great and
it was really helpful because also dogs can't get neurovirus,
so I could be like, come here, you know, you
can be close. It's okay. Daddy's gonna be all right.
He thinks if he could chug some of this pedia

(34:31):
light anyway, that the dog dogs are great and those
of your dog owners, you know, and when you're really sick, man,
and the dog crawls up on the bed and you
have like everyone has to stay away from you, but
the dog is there for you. And I know for
some of you it's your cats. Maybe for some of
you it's your donkeys. I'm seeing miniature donkeys more and
more as pets. I do love that idea. I don't

(34:52):
think it would go over well with my condo association,
but I do think that donkeys would be a lot
of fun. Donkeys are are very very attuned to humans,
very affectionate.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I've always found horses. I know some of you're gonna
be big horse people. I've always found horses like a
little sometimes can feel a little aloof Maybe I just
don't know horses very well. Donkeys they come over, they
want to sit in your lap. I mean, it's just
it's a totally different deal. All right, big beautiful Bill,
Let's get into some of this first hour. We talked
about how Elon is a little frustrated with where it's
going with the Doge team. And look, I think that

(35:25):
no matter what, the Doge team has done a huge
service just in telling us all about the kinds of
wasteful spending and the amount of just nonsense that's going
on with these payments. But we still come back to,
like a lot of things, will Congress do anything about it?

(35:47):
We're seeing where the limits of executive power are. I think,
in some ways the artificial limits, because a lot of
what's being done to rain Trump in is just it's
purely partisan in nature. It's not, oh, this is really
about out where executive power constitutionally stops and starts. There
are judges who are just anti Trump loans and they

(36:08):
want to stop whatever it is that Trump is doing. Right,
we've seen that, that's obvious, and they're gonna have to
keep working through the courts on that. Yeah, Trump the tyrant.
He's always like, yeah, oh okay, I'll see you in court.
You know, we'll make the best arguments and we'll see
how this goes. It's not what tyrants do, as you know,
and I know. But anyway, I think that Trump is

(36:28):
in a position right now where he has the most
political capital he has ever had and the most ability
to change things. But Congress is a big part of
the equation, and so the limits of what can be
accomplished here when it comes to this bill, the limits

(36:50):
are in many ways, I think, just self enforced by Congress.
And it does get me to this place of you know,
eventually somebody is gonna and I'm not say saying, oh,
Trump's we should get rid of the filibuster now because
our guy's in charge, because I know you know this
has been holding out for a while, and I think
eventually it is going to go because eventually people will

(37:10):
tire of it. It might take a crisis, maybe even
the kind of fiscal crisis that we're heading toward by
not actually dealing with the debt, because we're not dealing
with the debt. We're just not. I wish I could
tell you we are. I think a lot of what's
going to happen in this economy, in this bill is
going to be great, and I'm very optimistic. But I'm
very optimistic about the next year, the next four years.

(37:33):
Am I optimistic about where there's what this looks like
in ten years, twenty years? And that's really the question.
And because of the structure and the nature of our
political cycles, it's very hard to get anything done based
on no matter how much of a certainty it is,
anything done based on how much of a certainty catastrophe

(37:54):
is ten years from now. I tell you in American
politics that we are heading towards cataste in ten years.
Nobody cares. I tell you what's happening in ten days.
Maybe people pay attention. Ten months, probably ten years. Nope,
can't do it, can't do Oh, things will change. We'll
figure it out. And you know, we've had Ron Johnson
on the show from the Senate to talk about this,

(38:16):
and he's a big Trump supporter, as you know, supports
the agenda, and he still has his concerns. Now, it's
got to go through the Senate side of things, because
you know, the House is what when when is the
House on a summer vacation? The House and the like
public school teachers, they get a lot of time off
Ron Johnson. This is cut too. Here he is saying

(38:38):
from the Senate side of things, he's got concerns. Play
it so you will vote to raise the debt ceiling
if in fact you get these spending cuts that you're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Absolutely, all I've asked for is a commitment to your
pre pandemic level spending and a process to achieve and
maintain it. We never had a process to control spending.
Don't have a Bow's budget requirement that ration committees didn't work.
Budget Act didn't work, Simpson Bulls didn't work. The only
thing I can see is a very business versus approach.
Line by line exposed the grotesque waste in the fraud

(39:10):
and abuse. This would be a five minute conversation in
a business guys, I told you could increase your budget
based on inflation and the number of customers reserve your
attempt said above that cut it. We need President Trump
to lead on this. He needs to be fully committed
to not funding the deep state at President Bind's levels.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
He seems very set on this. Senator Ran Paul has
been with us on this too, and he's also very
supportive overall of a lot of you know, supportive of
the tax cut, supportive of many of the of the
primary components of this bill. And you know, it comes
down to and Trump said this during the live press
conference today, just politics, man, to get these Republicans to

(39:51):
vote for it, to get to get all the good things,
we've got to get some things in there that we
don't like as much. That's really what everyone's just saying
right now. That's where it is. I don't think there's
really much of a fight over what the good things
are on the bill or what the long term projections

(40:11):
on the bill may be. Here's Stephen Miller explaining on
a process level some of what's going on here. He
put this out on x Doge. Cuts are two discretionary spending,
He writes, like the federal bureaucracy, under the Senate budget rules,
you cannot cut discretionary spending, only mandatory spending in a

(40:32):
reconciliation bill, So DOGE cuts would have to be done
through what is known as a recision package or an
appropriations bill. The Big Beautiful Bill is not an annual
budget bill and does not fund the Department of Government.
It does not finance our agencies or federal programs. Instead,

(40:52):
it includes the single largest welfare reform in American history,
along with the largest tax cut and reform in American history,
the most aggressive energy exploration in American history, and the
strongest border bill in American history, all while reducing the deficit. Now,
I know Steven Miller well enough to know that everything

(41:14):
that he's written here is true. I mean, I think
you can take this to the bank. The challenge here
in all of this is that it's all true, But
there's also there's also the reality of well, even if
this is all accurate, reducing a deficit when you have

(41:36):
a thirty seven or thirty six trillion dollar debt and
you still have a trillion plus deficit yearly is not enough.
If I told you you know, if it was one
of those shows you call in you're like, hey, you know,
my wife and I have five thousand dollars in the
bank and we want to go on a fifty thousand
dollars vacation and I'm afraid I might lose my job

(41:57):
next week. We have no savings and we have a
huge mortgage in the house. It's like, no, don't do that.
It's a bad that's a bad idea. I mean, I
know I can do this too. Don't do that. That's
a bad idea. If you are thirty six trillion dollars
is a nation in debt, and you are looking at
spending a trillion dollars plus a year beyond what you

(42:19):
are currently you know, beyond the current death that you have.
That's what the deficit is, the what the shortfall is annually.
The debt is the whole thing put together that we
and like I've said before, the tea Party was the
tea party was doing their thing at like ten trillion
or something. Wasn't that long ago ten trillion and that was,

(42:40):
oh my gosh, And now it's thirty five trillion. I mean,
you know, the math. Here is the math. The math
is a problem. So if we can't get Trump to
uh to do the kinds of things that might seem
painful and with that maybe transformative, I don't know who

(43:01):
would be in a I don't know who's going to
be in a better position. Certainly from the Republican side
of things, Democrats will spend us into oblivion. I have
no doubt. There is no question about my Democrats. They
will spend us into oblivion. And they figure, well, as
long as that then the government's more in charge because
the currency is debased and they're gonna print money, and
the government's going to be even more involved in you know,

(43:24):
they're gonna they're gonna ruin private industry, They're gonna crowd
out private expenditures. You're gonna all this stuff. They they
are fine with it. The Democrats aren't gonna tackle this
at all. We know that it's up to the Republicans
to be the adults in the room and start to say,
you know, enough is enough. But you know, it's like
telling somebody it's time to go on a diet, and
let me tell you, I know about this. First month

(43:46):
of the diet's not fun. First month of the diet,
You're like you know what tastes really good right now?
Cheese cake. Cheese cake is good. You know what doesn't
taste as good when you're used to eating a lot
of cheesecake, Lean, ground, turkey, no fat. You know, ninety
nine percent lean or one hundred percent lean doesn't taste

(44:06):
as good. But you know what, it's important. It's important
if you want to lead a long, healthy life to
get to the place you need to be metabolically. And
same thing with the country, same thing with our debt.
It is all about whether we're willing to make the
changes and tackle the issues now before they are crises.

(44:30):
And increasingly what I see, and I've said it to
you before, I don't think we are. And I wish
I could come up with, you know, come up with
a happy way of putting this. But we're and I
say we it's not even about Trump. It's more than
about Trump and this administration. We the American people don't
want to do it, or at least a majority of

(44:50):
us who vote don't want to do it. No interest
in it, can't touch entitlements, can't change automatic spending. Think
about that. Automatic spending. Can't touch automatic spending. Well, if
it's automatic guess what this is where it's gonna go.
It's gonna get worse. Now we can talk about some
of the great things. Like I said, I think the

(45:11):
next year, I think the economy is gonna boom, is
gonna be fantastic. But now is our chance to deal
with things in a way that'll put us on better
footing for ten years from now and for our kids
and our grandkids and for those of you who have them.
Great gang, yeah, great grandkids. Now is the time to
make those decisions. Are we doing that? I think that's
a tougher case to make, but I'm open to it.

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Speaker 2 (47:17):
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you making the time for us. Clay is out. So
you've got a sports SEC football novice with you on

(47:53):
the radio today. But we can talk some politics if
you're cool with that.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
I'm good with anything, especially especially the sports part in
the SEC. I'm pretty well versed in that, as you
well know, Bud.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Well you know somehow.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Clay's not here to explain himself on this one. But
of the two college football games that I have ever
gone to see, two of them both had Alabama in them.
I am just saying that that is the thing that happens.
So you have to take that up, if you have
to take that up with Clay. So let's dive into
to First of all, I know you're running for governor,

(48:28):
which is very exciting. I want to talk to you
about that. But tell me this the Senate package or
the Senate part of the big beautiful bill. What are
your feelings on this because there are people who are
It's one thing when the people who don't like Trump
don't like something Trump does, they don't like anything he does.
Right as he said he could cure cancer, that all

(48:48):
of a sudden they be pro cancer. But there are
people who are very pro Trump, including on the Senate side,
who are saying, you know what this is, this is
something that should be let's say, tinker with a little
bit on the cutting side.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
What do you say, Yeah, one hundred percent. It's gonna
be some adjustments. It never was gonna happen to where
the House did their version. They sent it over and
we were just gonna rubber stamp it. That's not gonna happen.
First of all, we have what we call the Bird
rule and has go the parliamentarian anything that comes into
this package, and some of it probably won't pass up

(49:25):
through the Bird rule. Uh. In any any changes, if
there's one change at all, has to go back to
the House. Uh. There's several things that other people are
very concerned about. One that I'm concerned about is we
did not do away with, to me enough of the
Green New Deal giveaways through their Inflation or Reduction Act.
Why in the world would we continue to give money

(49:48):
away when we shouldn't. Again that has they'll probably have
to be adjusted in some form or fashion.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
What is in there on that on that specific because
I've seen the people say the Green New Deal giveaway,
is it just a lot of money that the Democrats
set up in the COVID era that goes to wind
farms or well what what what is the giveaway part
of it?

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Exactly? Solar farms subsidies, rebates, same thing with wind farms rebates,
also with ev cars rebates, and you know any other
car we all and I don't have an electric car.
I pay full price and as so do many many,

(50:29):
many other people in this country. Will continue to push
the EV car. Now I'm fine with EV car, but
at the end of the day, we're gonna have to
get on the same page with this, along with the
gas burning cars. And if you want whichever one, you
won't find. But the government shouldn't have to pay any
of that. So there should be an adjustment to that.

(50:50):
There'll probably be some more adjustments, probably Medicaid Medicare. I'm
not for any cuts, but I am for reform. Is
there enough for reform in there are the work requirements
as they've got it structured as we speak for Medicaid
work requirements, which I think everybody's for, everybody's Republican. The

(51:11):
problem is the work requirements don't start for about three
or four years. What are we waiting for. I mean,
we got to get it done and get it over
with and get people back to work and get people
in a situation where where we can cut back on
the money that's spent the people that shouldn't be getting
on Medicaid and medicare. So at the end of the day,

(51:32):
we'll look at it. Starting on Monday, we'll go through
it line by line, try to make it the best
we possibly can. We want President Trump to have his bill,
have it done soon. But that's a problem when we
put everything in one bill. If we'd have done two
separate bills, it would have been a lot different. We
could have done the tax version and got it out
of the way already, and then we could have done

(51:53):
everything else at this point and would have been the
less of a problem. But when you put it all together,
we all knew it was going to be this situation.
But eventually it will get done.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
It will get done. That's certainly good news. Why do
you think they didn't do the two bills? Is this
just all because of the super narrow margin on the
House side in particular, that there was no leeway to
change some of the structure here. Because I can understand
given all the political capital the Trump has and that
there's a Democrat opposition that feels like it's barely even

(52:30):
relevant in the conversation these days. I know they still
have a lot of votes. I know there are a
lot of Democrats out there, but they're not finding effective
ways to oppose the Trump agenda. I feel like there
is a bit of concern that this is the best
moment and this moment isn't being used to its fullest
to put us on sound fiscal footing.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Yeah, First of all, the Democrats are trying to block
everything that we're doing, trying to slow anything they possibly
can down and toward in terms of nominations or any
kind of bill like this. They're trying to throw a
kink into the wheel, try to put a nail in
the tire and slow us all down. But the end
of the day, if you look at it, the people
that actually the ones are supposed to be thrown up

(53:10):
the budget is the House. The House is a very
slim margin. They're the one that marketed it's the President Trump.
This is how we want to do it. This is
the process of which we can get it through the House,
and then the Senate has a few more boats to
where they can work with. I understand that. But by
doing that, this thing is maybe the biggest bill in

(53:32):
the history of bills, and so it's got more things
in there, more moving parts, and so it just takes longer.
But again, we're going to get this done for the President.
He needs it, he deserves it, he's worked at it.
The House may have to take it back and readjust
some things after we finish it with it, and the
bird rule the parliamentarian so it doesn't cut enough money.

(53:56):
At the end of the day, President Trump knows that
one point five tree, which is only one hundred and
fifty billion a year for ten years. This is a
ten year bill. It's a He's even said this, We've
got to cut back on spending, and we've got to
grow the country. He's going to grow the country by
tariffing people all over the world to get manufacturing back.
I get a visitor two a week in my office

(54:18):
in DC about manufacturing companies want to come back to
the state of Alabama. Which is great, But the end
of the day, we have to cut back on this
enormous spending two trellion dollars more a year than what
the American taxpayer send in. We can't physically put two
and two together make any of this work unless we

(54:38):
cut back a little bit more of what the Republicans
have in there now in terms of the bill coming
from the House.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Speaking to Senator Tommy Tubberville and Senator you announced yesterday
on my friend Will Kine's show that you are running
for governor in the great state of Alabama. What's leading
to that that transition in your political future? And also
let's get into some of what I think of Alabama, like,

(55:08):
you don't have the problems in Alabama that they do
in places like California when it comes to Democrats being
in charge, right, So I'd be very curias on what
the agenda is that you would want to pursue as
the governor.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Yeah, Alabama's a huge Donald Trump state. And I ran
I was going to run for governor seven eight, nine
years ago when President Trump first got in, but we
had a governor Ivy had just gone in. I said, now,
I'm not going to do that, and President Trump encouraged
me to run for the Senate and I did and

(55:40):
we won pretty hand lee on the backs of President Trump.
And we've been up and it's probably good. I've learned
a lot. I've met a lot of people. It's all
about contacts. It's like coaching, the same thing coaching, it's
all about contacts and knowing people. Same thing in politics.
Then President Trump in his agenda, he is pushing and
changing things in d C and moving more money and

(56:04):
power back to the states. Now I'll be with President
Trump another year and a half and after that point,
hopefully I can win this governorship where I can move
into the governor's role here in the state of Alabama
and take that power in the money that he's going
to send back to the states to help make Alabama
a better place to live, a better place to work,

(56:24):
and a better place to raise a family. So I
think it's all working out perfectly time wise, But again,
We've got a lot of work to do, and I'll
spend ninety percent of my time in DC working towards
President Trump's agenda for the next year and a half.
After that point, we will really know the structure of
what he's going to be able to get done with
this Congress, and hopefully we can we can maintain the

(56:47):
House and the Senate along with the White House in
the next Congress. So I'm looking forward to it. It'd
be a challenge, I'll have to worry. I don't mind campaigning,
I really like it, but need to continue the same
values and in education and and immigration and law abiding
citizens as what President Trump is trying to push all

(57:10):
over the country.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Senator Tuberville. The team has pointed out that it is
only right, It is only fair that I tell Clay
this time, if I join him on the road during
football season, that I go see the illustrious Auburn Tigers.
Is what is the best? Should I go see Auburn
against Alabama, that would mean I'm three for three at
Alabama games. But we know the Auburn Tigers will of

(57:34):
course emerge emerge victorious in that is that the best
game because I could pretty much go to any.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
Game, well, that's one of the best games in the
country all year long. I don't care whether college or
high school or NFL is the is the Iron boat
as much going on around the stadium and before the game,
then what happens during the game. And there's so much
riding on it for in state rival but you know,
we have l s U and and other teams that

(57:59):
come to Auburn. But you can't miss any SEC game
across the South is always great to watch. I've been
involved in many of them when I was an Ole
miss and same same at Auburn. I've been to a
lot of Alabama games in the last few years. I
went with President Trump a couple of times. Uh. They're
all fun. And that's the reason that I'm really fighting

(58:20):
hard to try to solve this NIL problem, because the
thing that makes college football great, especially in the SEC,
is the fan base and the enthusiasm, and we do
not want to lose that when it comes to college sports,
and NIL has an opportunity to upset that apple cart
if we don't get some answers to it.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
How do you fix that? The name and likeness issue
for call, how do you fix that?

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Well, moneys. Moneys is the cats out of the back.
And I don't mind kids making money, but we got
we got to have some structure. There's no structure to contracts.
There's no structure. You cannot allow men or women to
transfer every year for twenty five one hundred thousand dollars
just because of money. It's about education. And again, if
you come to a place and you come from money, fine,

(59:08):
but you've got to work towards an education and you
can't every year shop yourself around for more money. That's
not what this should be all about. And again, players
should make money. There should be revenue sharing. NCAA dropped
the ball on that. But at the end of the day,
we have got to put some slid validity to this
because there's going to be donor fatigue coming up because

(59:31):
we can't. Some of these schools are spending twenty thirty
forty million dollars a year on their teams and that's
not going to last. And again, as I said earlier,
the number one thing that makes college sports, especially football
in the south's popular is a fan base. And the
fans aren't gonna put up with it. You're going to
start losing season ticket sales. And every year you go

(59:51):
to a game, now you don't know who's on the team.
There's no loyalty.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Senator Toperville appreciates you being with us, Sir.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
All right, but thank you.

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