Daily Review With Clay and Buck - May 29 2025

Trump's Superpower a breakdown of the latest developments involving the FBI and internal debates within the GOP about whether Trump administration officials like FBI Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino are moving fast enough on key reforms. Buck emphasizes the importance of managing expectations while supporting the broader mission of government accountability. A major segment focuses on Elon Musk’s departure from his role as a special government employee. Buck discusses Musk’s impact on reducing government waste (DOGE) and his return to leading companies like SpaceX, Tesla, and X (formerly Twitter), highlighting Musk’s role as a tech visionary and free speech advocate. The show then transitions into a deep dive on the “Big Beautiful Bill,” a major legislative effort by the Trump administration. Buck addresses conservative concerns about the lack of visible spending cuts and explains the role of rescissions in the budget process. He features commentary from OMB Director Russell Vought, who confirms that a rescissions package targeting foreign aid and public broadcasting (including NPR and PBS) is being sent to Congress. Buck critiques government funding for media entities, arguing that taxpayer dollars should not support partisan outlets. The Virus of Leftwing Insanity Another key topic is the Trump administration’s push to limit foreign student enrollment at elite U.S. universities like Harvard. Buck reacts to a federal judge’s injunction blocking the administration from revoking Harvard’s ability to host foreign students. He frames this as part of a broader judicial resistance to Trump’s agenda and criticizes the high percentage of foreign students in STEM fields at top institutions, particularly from China. Buck argues that this undermines national security and American competitiveness, calling for a rethinking of U.S. higher education policy. Throughout the hour, Buck underscores the Trump administration’s aggressive, multi-front strategy to implement its agenda despite legal and political obstacles. He praises the administration’s persistence and contrasts it with the more cautious approach of past Republican efforts. Hostage Shows Receipts A firsthand account from a former hostage, Omer Shem Tov, held by Hamas, who claims his treatment improved significantly after Donald Trump was elected—underscoring Trump’s perceived strength on foreign policy and national security. Sexton uses this testimony to reinforce the argument that America’s enemies fear Trump’s leadership and are more cautious in their actions when he is in power. Michelle Obama Cult A deep dive into the political and cultural influence of former First Lady Michelle Obama, with Buck Sexton leading the conversation while Clay Travis is on vacation. This hour is packed with sharp political commentary, media analysis, and personal insights, making it a must-listen for conservative audiences and political news followers. Buck opens the hour by revisiting his long-standing prediction that Michelle Obama would never run for president, arguing that the media-manufactured image of her as an untouchable cultural icon has begun to unravel. He critiques the media’s role in creating what he calls the “cult of Michelle Obama,” comparing it to the idolization of figures like the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Buck references Michelle Obama’s recent podcast appearance, highlighting a controversial quote where she stated that “the least important thing” a woman’s reproductive system does is produce life. He calls this statement “heinous” and “perverse,” emphasizing its potential negative impact on young women and public discourse. The discussion also touches on Michelle Obama’s past comments, including her infamous 2008 remark about being proud of America “for the first time” wh

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of The Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Some quick housekeeping. Buck is back,
as in I'm normal today. Yesterday was a bit of
a challenge. I appreciate all of you rolling with me.
Had to hydrate in the breaks and it was a
little touch and go. But I'm back, I'm healthy, ready
to rock and play. Is having a great time with

(00:26):
his family. He's on vacation. I think he's in Disney
World or one of those places. I'm not sure where
he is today, but we're all hoping he's having a
great time with the fam. He'll be back with us,
as we know, a week from tomorrow. So it's just
going to be me informing you, entertaining you, rolling with
you here for a week. So looking forward to getting
to chat with you. All the calls, the talkbacks, we

(00:49):
love them. Both. Give us light us up on those
lines and send those talkbacks. Let's lay out where we're
going today on the show real quick. So you know,
some stuff coming out on the FBI and there's a
little bit of pushback I think from some people on
the right, our Director Patel and Deputy Director bon Gino
moving fast enough? Are they doing the things? I was

(01:10):
on Fox earlier this morning with Dana Perino, who's always
so lovely, like such a nice person and very good broadcaster,
and we were talking about this issue. I want to
address it a bit because I think that there's a
little bit of expectations management that our side should have.
Not in terms of result, no, no, we all agree
on the results, but in terms of timing, we need

(01:35):
to give the people the time that they need. Speaking
of which, Elon has said that his time is a
special government employee has come to a conclusion. He put
this out on x the platform that he owns, which
now is actually a free speech platform. As my scheduled

(01:55):
time as a special government employee comes to an end,
I would like to thank President Trump for the opportunity
to reduce wasteful spending. The DOGE mission will only strengthen
over time as it becomes a way of life throughout
the government. So Elon is going to go back to
being the most important single CEO. And you know business,

(02:18):
I don't like the term thought leader right because it's
like the thought leader, I mean the guy is a
thought leader, but I don't like to use that term.
But he's going to go back to doing the full
Elon routine, which is going to be I think great
for SpaceX, for Tesla, for X, for Boring Company, for
all the things that he has involved in. So this
is where we get into a little bit speaking of

(02:41):
expectations management of they've done what they could do. He
did not unilaterally and this was known all along. He
does not unilaterally have the authority the power. Doge didn't
have to just say these cuts are going into effect
money that Congress has appropriated. If Congress says this, uh,

(03:05):
you know, this program for fiscal year twenty twenty five
has ten million dollars or ten billion dollars, Doge couldn't
just come along and say, yeah, they don't have ten
billion dollars anymore. But this is where recisions come in.
This also goes to our conversations over the Big Beautiful Bill.

(03:26):
There's been a little bit of pushback here, including from
some of the most pro Trump voices you will find
in the Senate and just in general, who are saying, hey, Trump,
I love you with all respect, You're doing great things.
We all get that this isn't like some never trumpy
wine fest. You think, eh, but like and I like
the way you said it. No, that's for libs, that's

(03:48):
for fake Republicans. This is just about Okay, it's halftime.
It's not even halftime, to be clear, it's early. It's
a time out in the first quarter of this administration,
and we're all huddled together and some of us are saying, Hey, Trump,
thank you for being the quarterback. But you know, can
you hit that guy on the button hook? Clay would

(04:10):
be proud by the way. I'm just gonna say, look
at that button hook. But yeah, you know what I'm
saying that that's the mentality, or rather that's the the
rationale behind some of the pushback on this from people
like Senator Ron Johnson, people like Senator Ran Paul. They're
on board for the mission, but they want to shape this.
And this is why it goes to the Senate. I

(04:30):
bring it up because you know, yesterday I said we
can't let the perfect of the enemy of the good.
And I think I'm trying to so many administrations said
it later that day. I'm trying to remember. I don't
want to misquote, but somebody I heard somebody else say it,
and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. They listened to
this show. So I'm happy to happy to help, happy
to help. And if that means I throw around a
cliche that somebody else will have in their head later, great.

(04:54):
But we've talked about the process and Steven Miller. I
read his post on the big beautiful Bill still in process,
and there are big things in this bill that will
affect us, that will affect your family budget, that will
affect the business that you own or that you work
for in your town. I mean, there's this real stuff, right.

(05:15):
This isn't sitting around arguing about the naming of the
next post office in Topeka. No offense Topeka. But this
is about big economic issue, structural issues, and setting the
economy on a footing that will allow it to get
to the best possible places, right, I mean tremendous prosperity,

(05:40):
which I'm very confident in. You. I have not been
gloom and doom about the Trump economy since he won
that election for one moment, for one day, even when oh,
the Trump procession is here, all the market is dropped.
You can go back and listen to those shows we're
like I kept saying, he knows what he's doing. Everyone
just who's freaking out needs to as I believe they

(06:00):
would say here in South Florida, tranquilo. Everyone needs to
calm down. It's fine, okay, nothing terrible's happened. He knows
what he's doing. Part of the complaints about the big
beautiful bill, though, have been on where is where are
the cuts? Where is DOGE and the ethos of DOGE

(06:22):
being made real? And this is where you have OMB
Director Russell Vaught, who is on the Cudlow Show, saying
that yes, in fact, the administration is sending a recisions
package to Congress. Let's hear it from the OMB director himself,

(06:42):
play for I can.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
We'll be sending that up on Monday or Tuesday, whenever
the House is back in session. They will get our
first Decisions bill. And again this has been we're proposed,
and we've talked about it. We want to make sure
that Congress passes its first recisions bill, including the DOGE,
and we will send more if they pass it.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
And so this is the first one is Foreign Aid.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
USAID cuts many of the waste and garbage that was
funding not only wasteful but hurting our foreign policy. But
also the Corporation for Public Broadcasting at NPR will be
sending that up. And we're working with Congress and we've
had good conversations to make sure that they knew what
was coming. They had some input is to changes that
could be made to make it something that could pass

(07:24):
the House, and we're excited for that to occur next week.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
There you have it. I said, hold on a second,
where are the doge cuts in the big beautiful bill.
And Stephen Miller, who understands this process as well as
anybody because he is look, he is at the center
of what's going on in this White House. He is
absolutely dialed in and he explained it to everybody, and

(07:50):
he said, look, this is how it has to happen
within the system. And let's be honest, even if you
follow government and politics for a living, some of this
stuff unless you I'll tell you this, some members of
Congress don't even know this stuff that well. Their staff
members do. Their staffers do, and they brief them on it,
but they're like, wait, I gotta do that. The who's
a what's it here? How does this work? Steven Miller

(08:11):
came out and said here is what has to happen
for the cuts to become real and final or to
come to fruition. And now that process has gone to
the next step. And now you'll see, Okay, does usaid,
does the budget? Does Congress do what it's supposed to do?
Does PBS get its government funding cut? I have I

(08:34):
think the most perfect argument about this of anybody or
anyone else is welcome to the bar. But I like to
make arguments that other people can borrow them. That's fine.
I just want the truth to win. But PBS and
anybody else who is getting straight up government funding as
a media entity, they cannot claim simultaneously, oh, we don't
really need that funding. It's only a small percentage of

(08:55):
our budget. And Comma, how dare they cut our budget?
What are we going to do? This is tyranny. You
are not entitled to federal funds as a media entity.
This is insane. You know. I imagine all of a
sudden and I would just say this, why is PBS

(09:15):
getting money from the government. Clay and Bucks Show doesn't
get any money from the government. We're a capitalist enterprise.
Thanks to all of you who listen, and thanks to
all of you who make our sponsors so successful, in
the campaigns we have, in the partnerships we have on
this show. Is thanks to you that this show exists.
There's no there's no I mean, it would be kind

(09:36):
of nice. I don't know, you get a check for
ten million dollars for the government, you know, we'd give
we give bonuses for the New York team or something
out of that, right, I mean, this is this is
the kind of thing that you sit there and you say,
how has this even been able to exist as long
as it has? And I want to get into this
a little bit more on the Trump fight with Harvard,

(09:57):
which I'll dive into in the bottom, which I think,
I think this stuff is important. And there's a new
addition to this too about foreign students from China. What's
going on here? You know, were we bringing Were we
bringing the best and the brightest from Moscow to study

(10:19):
at cal Tech and MIT and I don't know, nuclear
engineering or something. Were we doing that during the Cold War?
I'm not aware of it in any real numbers. I mean,
there was a lot of espionage going on, but I
don't think we were welcoming, you know, Uh, tens of
thousands of students from Moscow to come work at high

(10:41):
levels of sensitive But we're doing that with China. We are,
we have been doing and it's so dumb and so
contra the national interest that when you say it out loud,
it almost feels like, how is this? How's this possible?
And then you can even take it a step further.
How many Americans are getting access to the research being

(11:02):
done by I don't know what the top Chinese universities are,
but you know, let's just say the equivalent of University
of Beijing. How many Americans are sitting in there classes
learning about five G, learning about artificial intelligence, learning about
next generation of microchips and what they're supercomputers. All that

(11:23):
we all know the answer, Even if you don't follow
the issue, you know the answer because you'd say, well,
China is not that dumb, but we are. Trump comes along,
This is one of his superpowers. The dumb things that
we have as a country have been doing for such
a long time that we just start to think that
this is the way it has to be, because it

(11:45):
seems like it's always been that way. Trump comes along
and says, you know, that's a dumb thing, and we
should stop doing it. Whether it's getting involved in foreign
wars that we're not going to win and that aren't
bringing any benefit to us or even the people in
that country over the long term, or it's something as
straightforward is why are we educating at the highest possible levels? Insensitive?

(12:07):
They want to study Shakespeare. Okay, I'm a little more
open to it as long as there's no Americans who
are losing that spot in that school. Whole other conversation,
but the top electrical engineering, top, microprocessor top, you know,
theoretical physics, astrophysics. We're educating our biggest adversaries students, and

(12:28):
by the way, in numbers that would blow your mind.
I actually had a conversation randomly with the guy in
the Princeton University electrical engineering labs a long time ago,
and he said that if they wanted to, This was
a long time ago. It was back when I was
just out of school. He said, if they wanted to,
they could take three classes or you know, three times

(12:49):
as many students as they have from just China with
perfect perfect scores for engineering, I mean perfect math scores. Everything.
He says, you know, they don't take that many. It's
not one hundred percent, but they could because they all
want to come and they take a lot of them.
And that's true of a lot of these schools. That
needs to stop because they operate in America and they

(13:11):
have to start seeing themselves as part of this country.
They are not islands unto themselves. They do not have
global tenure. So, if anything, what you're seeing right now
is Trump putting into action that very important but very
straightforward theory the dumb things that prior administrations have done

(13:33):
that there can be no intelligent defense of. Whether it
is funding PBS. I know they do it because it's
left wing propaganda, but there's no real defense of this,
not a serious defense, not an intellectually consistent one, or
spending too much money, fraudulent stuff, sending money to people overseas,
the stuff that Doge has found dumb. Right, we can

(13:53):
all agree, or training the foreign adversaries brightest minds in
the most sensitive technologies, when the wars and the economies
of the future will be determined by technological prowess, very dumb.
And it is, as I said, Trump's superpower among several,

(14:14):
but one of his superpowers is to come along and
say I no longer wish this country to do the
things that we all know are dumb but have just
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(14:59):
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(16:04):
Trump administration learned I think a very important lesson from
the first at bat that Trump had. I think a
Trump administration learned something really critical, and that is keep
pushing and keep moving on all fronts. The first time
around when they did these universal injunctions and it was

(16:25):
a different team, and they've they've got the seasoned crew
in place. Now these people all know this game. They
don't have people that are like, hey, I've never done
politics before, and you know, I kind of like Trump
and like, oh you can be you know, White House
Communications director. It's a different world. So they have brought
in people who understand that if you allow the process

(16:49):
to get bogged down, and if you allow them to
weaponize the process essentially to thwart the agenda, you're dead
in the water. So you have to just keep going.
So that's why, even though this is what I do
for a living and I'm every day reading, researching, reading, researching,
it's tough to keep up on Oh wait, what's the
latest universal injunction? And what are they saying? What is
this judge saying about Trump or that judge saying about Trump,

(17:11):
because they're not taking the approach that I think was
really just more of the Republican way. Oh we're gonna
do this thing. Oh the judge is gonna fight us
on this. M m okay, Well, we don't want to
seem like we're pushing too hard on stuff. So let's
see how this goes. Is you know, is it going
to go to the appeals court? Okay, let's wait, is
the Supreme Court and you hear it, you know, and
next thing you know, a year is passed. And on

(17:34):
this issue, you've allowed them to run out the clock
and that's their whole game. So much of what they did,
and this was one of my great frustrations with the
Russia collusion. Lie. People always say, oh, it wasn't successful,
and I have to correct them. It wasn't totally successful.
In the end, I think you can argue it was

(17:55):
defeated and shown to be a fraud. But there were costs.
You know, we took casual rualty, so to speak, along
the way in the Trump movement, because they were able
to make people show up for depositions and then testify
under oath and get lawyers and the media and you know,
and the whole thing was just kicking mud up in
the air being Haha, you can't you can't do what

(18:16):
you were elected to do, because we're we're saying now,
we're saying, I don't hear you, la la la la,
I don't hear you. I'm a Democrat. You know, whatever
childish nonsense they had to do, they did well. This
time around. The Trump team is going, Okay, let's do this,
oh universal injunction. Cool day day two, next day, let's
do this, oh universal injunction. Guess what we got something else?

(18:37):
And this is the only way available within the system.
We have to continue to play offense. So now what
this means is that the left and the Democrats are
going to be saying, look, oh he's dictator and he's tired,
and look at all these things he's doing, because there's
a lot going on. But we want there to be
a lot going on. We want this movement to be

(18:59):
happening on all these different fronts and these processes are
playing out, so once again, we all want the same
result on this stuff. The people that are trying to
do this in this White House, they are pursuing this.
I've never seen anything like this before. Most of my
life in conservative media has been telling the truth about

(19:21):
Democrats when their media outlets have all together much bigger,
you know, ecosystem and have us outgunned, so to speak.
I know, you know, the biggest talk radio shows are conservative,
and yes Fox is the biggest cable channel. But when
you add all those different and remember now we're like
the unsinkable aircraft carriers are free speech and the Democrat

(19:43):
media is like a little dinghy you no beep beep.
You know, I don't think they have horns, but you
know what I'm saying, maybe boats have horns, right, I'm
not a boat guy, but you know they're not what
they used to be right there. They're they're ships that
they look like the hull is dipping low the close
to the water, and you know they're sputtering a little bit.

(20:05):
It's not working the way you used to. But one
of the big things that I think we had to
do on the conservative side of the media was just
to deal with the constant incoming. And so we were
playing a lot of defense, playing a lot of defense,
and the Trump term, a first Trump term, playing a
lot of with all the like I said, Russia collusion stuff. Right,

(20:25):
they tried to make us play a lot of defense
on the Biden. Now that didn't work as well as
they had had hoped. But you know what we see
here with Trump is action. Action is its own, is
its own strategy. Just keep going, just you know, motion

(20:47):
creates emotion, like make things happen. And that's why I
think the stuff you see with the College is, I know,
they say you can't do this, they say you can't
do that, they say you can't deport. Okay, Trump's team
is going to fight that out in But while that's
happening in every area where the agenda can be pursued
by the executive branch, they continue to go and this
is excellent. Okay, now let's talk what's going on here

(21:11):
with Harvard. You have this this injunction now from an
Obama judge Obama, I'm gonna be honest with you, one
of the smartest things, one of the most damaging things
about Obama's eight years in office, and I think he
did horrific long term damage to the country in a
whole range of ways. I think the Obama presidency was
a disaster for America that has continued to do harm

(21:35):
well beyond his eight years. Yeah, I mean, on so
many issues, I can't get in them all now. Also,
I'll address Michelle Obama now that people are seeing what
she actually thinks. I don't think we're gonna hear anyone
talking about how she should be a presidential candidate anymore.
I'll put it that way. Michelle Obama not a grateful

(21:55):
person and not a wise person, and doesn't seem like
a very nice person either. Not a surprise to some
of you. But when she's on these podcasts, she's not's
not doing herself any favors with with a broader electorate,
that's for sure. I mean, I'm sure they're you know,
super fans of Michelle Obama who think everything that she
says is brilliant. It's not. And I think that people

(22:16):
feel more comfortable just speaking the truth about that now
than ever before. But Obama did a lot of damage
to the country, and Trump is trying to undo that damage.
But one of the most lasting points of damage in
all of this has been the seating of the federal
judiciary with activists, people who just do not care, you

(22:38):
know that. Call it the Sodo my yours because she's
a she is really the the the pinnacle example of this.
She just knows she's supposed to deliver for her team,
team Democrat, team left wing, team race and identity politics,
you know, team wise Latina like she she knows that

(22:59):
she is supposed to make it happen for them in
whatever and now she's only one vote of nine, but
that's every She never there's never a moment where you go, wow,
Soda my or is really angering her own side with that?
How is that possible? She never lets the home team down.
The progressive leftist, communist Democrat is never frustrated with Soda

(23:25):
my Or. Now she we're aware of this because of
her role in the Supreme court. There are hundreds of
sod my ors in the federal judiciary, hundreds of them
because of what Obama and Biden were able to and
Biden's case, the people around him as we know, but
what they were able to accomplish. So this is a
major challenge for the administration on the issue of foreign

(23:47):
students in this country. I have objections to this on
many levels, not all foreign students. Please don't tell me,
oh oh, but you know, I you know, my family
we were so close. You know. We had a foreign
exchange student from Singapore and he was lovelier. We had
somebody visiting our you know, was in class at Brigham

(24:10):
Young with my son and he was from you know, wherever.
And I know, Okay, it's not that we don't want
any foreigners here, that that would be too much, But
we also don't want nothing but foreigners in the top
echelon of critical industries, critical academic disciplines for our economy
and our national defense, and that is happening. We also

(24:34):
don't want foreigners, non Americans of any kind, to be
here in numbers where they get to box out essentially
Americans from access to the schools that as we now
all know, are getting billions of dollars of taxpayer money

(24:55):
and they really want that money. So they're taking taxpayer dollars,
but they're not prioritize Americans. You know. You know, you
start to do this, what percent of Harvard students are for?
You start to look at these numbers and you say
to yourself, thirty percent of Harvard or foreigners? Do you
know that thirty It's like twenty seven, twenty eight percent.

(25:18):
We'll just say thirty percent because it's basically a third, okay,
a third of Harvard or foreign So this is our
most elite university. Blah blah, all that stuff. I mean,
at Stanford and Yale, people send your plays on vacation,
send angry emails to him. We're supposed to sit here
and say that that's okay, that's insane, that's completely preposterous.

(25:43):
The only reason that Harvard can have all these people
sitting around with tenure, including oh, this is beautiful, including
a professor of honesty I kid you not, who was
just fired from her tenure job at Harvard Business School
or dishonesty. It's real. You can look it up. I'm

(26:04):
not making it up. And it just happened her expertise
is whether people are honest or not, and they fired
her for being dishonest about her expertise and about the data.
They say one of the highest paid professors at Harvard
Business School. I my dad, I mean, these are the
kind of people that I remember. This is like because
I was in this rat race for a while. Remember
until Glenn Beck came along and saved me. I was

(26:26):
on my way to Columbia Business School. And I don't
mean I was thinking about it. I was in. I
was going and Glenn was like, Buck, come work with me,
you know, did his Glenn thing. I was like, yes, sir,
that is a great let's do that thing. The Blaze
early days, got to work with Pete Hegseth and Will Kine,
and I mean, I can't even I can't even name everybody.

(26:48):
I mean, early days, it was just like everybody you
see on Fox now practically came through the Blaze either
as you know, somebody who was a guest or whatever.
So it was those are fun days. Those are fun days.
I got a lot of nostalgia about it. My point
is merely I understand this world where people are going
through all this stuff. They'll do anything to shove people

(27:10):
out of the way to get into these places so
they can study under a professor of honesty who's actually
really dishonest. I mean at Harvard at Heart. What has
happened to these places? Do I think that Harvard? I mean,
you look at some of these schools. You know, they
used to have like an ancient, ancient Greek and Latin
requirement requirement at some of these at some of these

(27:30):
universial you look this up. I mean the core curriculum.
You actually had to be smart to go to these
places and pass these classes, whether it's you know, talking
about back and I don't know, the fifties. I think
the sixties ruined everything. Sorry Boomers, I think the sixties
ruined you know, because that's when you seeded the radicals
in these schools and that's where But you go back
earlier than that, and you had to actually be pretty

(27:51):
smart at these places. You had to know my college
Amherst when I went there, and it's only gotten more
competitive since then. Small schools, those who the Northeast know
what the rest of the country doesn't know it. But
because it's kind of like an insider, First of all,
you can't pronounce the age. It's not Amhurst, it's Amherst,
just so you know. And that's always the tell. If
somebody says Amhurst, it's like, oh sweetie, or what do

(28:13):
you say in the South? Bless your heart, oh, bless
your heart. The whole thing was that they would take
I think they had a fifteen percent admission rate. So
one hundred people apply, eighty five of them get sad
letters home. Eighty five of one hundred people get sad
letters home. Okay, And and I think now it's less
than that. Harvard's like one percent or two percent or

(28:34):
something insane. And there was remedial math and remedial English
basically required for a big chunk of students coming in Sting.
I remember sitting here thinking like, how how elite can
this place be when you have people who can't you know,
can't math good and need help on on you know,

(28:58):
writing and basic reading, Like, how can this be an
elite institution when that's the well, this is where the
left uses these places as credential factories to do social
engineering in the broader society, and we all see it.
So I have I want to come back to this
issue with the foreigners and schools though, because this is
also a national security thing. I'm passionate about this. I

(29:19):
don't think this is a small thing at all. You
sit there, you say, how is it that the Biden
administration was putting out White House Communica, official White House
communications about how twelve year olds should be able to
pick their gender and get like castration drugs. How could
that have happened? Look at college campuses. That's where it
all starts. That's where the disease, initially the virus of

(29:44):
left wing insanity, takes hold and replicates. I will take
some calls on this and dive deeper into it because
I think it's super important. You know, six hundred days ago,
life in Israel changed forever. That's the number of days
it has been since Hamas terrorists kill innocent people in
Israel with reckless abandon and took hostages, many of whom
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Sexton Show YouTube channel. We're getting deep into this stuff
with Harvard, which I think is pretty interesting. But I
wanted to switch gears here and think about how a
lot of what we're seeing happening right now. You know,
it's one thing when you argue in politics and you

(31:37):
can't have somebody who I think ends the argument one
way or the other. You know, oh, would this tax
rate be better for growth? Or that text read? Well,
you got to try one, and if you try one,
you haven't done the other. But sometimes you can actually
just get an authoritative voice on something who proves that
one side is correct or at least more correct than

(31:59):
the other. And on this issue of Donald Trump being
able to get hostages returned, get people back who have
been held by Hamas, there's of course this effort from
the Democrats to be like, well, it's not like Trump
has just managed to do that. Really, let's think this

(32:22):
one through for a second. Hey, I've told you, Clay's
told you, We've discussed many times here on the show
that there is a clear preference among you know what, Actually,
let me take a step back on this. It's important.
They're trying to tell you that somehow Donald Trump, who
just won with this huge mandate, the guy who took

(32:43):
a bullet in the ear and said, fight, fight, Fight.
The billionaire global brand building impresario, an entrepreneur and political phenomenon,
who is scared of no one and is doing this
because at this I mean, I thought it was clear
in the first term, to be clear with all of you,
and I know you agree, But he's doing this because
he loves the country and he thinks that he's the

(33:04):
best man for this moment. Okay, is it reasonable to
think that the enemies of the United States don't want
that guy in charge? You know who they want in charge,
the guy with dementia who's not really in charge. What
is the counter argument to that? What are they gonna say? Oh, yeah,

(33:26):
you know who really makes Putin shaken? Is you know,
shaking his little booties, ron Klain. He can't man. Once
ron Klay gets Putin on the phone, it's lights out,
it's game over. Well, as we know, the Democrats have
had to admit that this is something that was happening.

(33:47):
There's no argument about this anymore. And it was because
they were exposed right never they got caught. They didn't
turn themselves in. The Democrats got caught on the cover
up of Biden's dementia. The debate they got caught. They
were trying to pull off the caper and they almost did.
They almost did. So there's no you know, there's like

(34:09):
no belief that anybody should have that they're coming clean
or they have some honesty here or something like that.
So with that, I go back to is Trump what's
trump better position to bring back hostive Americans and israelis

(34:29):
bring back hostages taken by Hamas than his predecessor. Of course,
we've made the argument that the answer is yes. But
here you can actually have one of the hostages tell
you himself that it's not just a theory, it's not
just I make the case to you the reality of Hamas.

(34:52):
Because he heard them talking about it was, uh, oh
they really don't want this Trump guy to be in charge. Oh,
we better be nice to the hostages. Now they might
actually end up going home because we might get called
out and the pressure might get turned up. And here
is this is a freed hostage. O Mayor sham twelve.

(35:14):
He was talking to CNN last night and explaining this
part of the story. I want you to hear it's
about a minute long. Play clip one.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yes, it seems he got me out, He got the hostages.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Out, you talk to politics with them.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they wanted Kamala to be elected, but
as soon as as as A Donald Trump was elected,
they understood that he wants to bring the hostages back home. Yeah.
So immediately the way they treated me changed. So it's
if it's the amount of food, I could say this

(35:50):
that when when Trump came into became president, Yeah, the
way they treated us changed for me personally.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
This is I think because they anticipated that a deal
would come soon.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, and that's when they started giving you more food, exactly,
more food, treated me better, you know, stopped cursing me,
stop speededing on me.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Trump becomes president, they stop cursing me, they stop spitting
at me, they stop mistreating me. Think about what kind
of powerful testimony this is about the reality of whether
or not the American people on a whole range of fronts,
but certainly as it pertains to our national security interests
and our presence on the world stage. What could make

(36:36):
this more clear than exactly what this now freed hostage
was saying, which is the bad and Hamas are clearly
the bad guys, and I commend the Israelis for taking
as many Hamas fighters out as they can. They this
was their nine to eleven, the same way that America

(36:56):
had a right to respond in you know, with all
all necessary and due force for their own uh security
and their own preservation, the same way that we have
that right. The Israelis have that right. And Hamas you
know they had, Hamas has earned every dead Hamas fighter
that they have on their hands. Now they I mean

(37:16):
they they wanted this, truly, they wanted this, as we
know they love they love death more than we love life.
This is what the Jihadas always say, and unfortunately it's true,
but doesn't mean we can't test out the theory. And
the Hamas terrorists who had captured and were holding who

(37:37):
holds hostages like this? What entity all these people are like? Oh,
I'm so pro Palestinia. I saw these uh one of
these with this band I think was imagined dragons. They're
all holding up Palestinian flags. What do they think about Hamas?
I mean they're morons obviously, maybe they have some catchy songs. Fine,
why do all these people have to think they have
to weigh in on international politics? They know nothing, They're
just completing neuamuses. They know absolutely nothing in fact, if anything,

(38:00):
they're useful idiots for some of the worst people in
the world or on the world stage, like a mos
because they approach this issue with just pure ignorance. They
know nothing about what's really going on, what has gone on.
But I just thought that that really hammered it home
for everyone to hear a hostage say that my actual

(38:23):
treatment in captivity by those savages became markedly better the
moment Trump won, the day it's clear that uh, oh,
you know, big Daddy Trump is coming back and no
more Biden, you know, with the apple sauce and the
blanket on his knees and where am I? And you

(38:43):
know what it was? What is that? It's don't ever
forget the Democrats for what they did on that. Don't
ever think it's okay your neighbor who was so smug?
So smug, I'm sure, especially in twenty twenty, especially in
twenty twenty one, Oh, I voted Democrat. How could you
have voted for Trump? How could you have done that? Really?

(39:04):
How's that all? Look? Now, it's hard to even hard
to even compare Trump and Biden, because it's comparing excellence
with a non entity. It's really like comparing a you know,
if we're talking about combat, this is like comparing a

(39:25):
Navy seal to somebody who didn't even show up for
basic training. How do you compare these there's no comparison.
Biden wasn't even really there's a puppet, and now they
want to act like this is why you'll notice I
try to focus a lot here on the agenda. I
try to talk about the good things that Trump is
doing because we can do that because the opposition is

(39:45):
a joke. Now we will have to take them seriously again.
They're going to try to take back the House. I
get it. I'm not. This is not a foreverything. But
we do have a window right now where it's pretty
as clear sailing as you're going to find in American politics.
Trump right now meaning you know, we we've he has
never been in a better position to get important things done,

(40:06):
and they're doing the things. I was very frustrated in
the first administration on a few things early on, because
you know, they had they had some bad personnel choices,
they had a lot of notice. Think about how many
stories you heard from the first term of Trump that
were about disloyalty in these agencies and institutions. His stories

(40:27):
were it was like every day there's another story. Oh,
State Department didn't revolt, Like I'm so upset. I work
at the State Department, and I'm like, I cry at
my desk, gout the Trump. But I'm like, I'm thwarting
his agenda every day. You know who's the guy?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
What was it? The anonymous I'm I'm stopping Trump by
by keeping you know, signatures off his desk, and I'm
important it ever goes, who are you? Are you bringing Trump?
Is his big max once a day or something like, well,
who are you? Oh, I'm holding the republic together? I
wrote it up ed in the Washington Post or I

(41:01):
don't even know I'm big exert I don't even remember
that guy's name. Like that actually would have been a
story if it was, you know, if the person writing
that editorial was like Ivanka or something, right, I mean,
if it was somebody who was close to Trump, had
the guy. I don't remember that guy's name, and now
he's resistance. He's like, I'm a Republican, but all I
do is entertaining democrats. What it is such a such

(41:23):
a pathetic and sad political and professional existence for these
people who their hatred of Trump has turned them into
something that is respected by neither side because they're not
fully on board with everything the left says, or at
least they'll pretend, but they only do things to hurt
their own team. And what a horrible place. I couldn't

(41:45):
do it. Are you could offer me whatever? You know?
It doesn't I couldn't do it. I mean, actually couldn't
just wake up and say, you know, well, I'm the
real Republican. I hate Trump and everybody who supports Trump
is wrong because I there's this now that industry I
think has dissipated a lot, because the media outlets that

(42:05):
were propping these people up or places like MSNBC, and
their credibility is all in you know, in uh smoldering
as well. So yeah, yeah, I think it's very interesting,
very interesting see how all of this plays out. And
I thought that that statement from the the person who

(42:31):
had been taken hostage by hamas it's not it's not
it's a not a revelation because you know, and I
know that that stuff playing out in a million different
ways is true, but to have it confirmed is always interesting,
and it's just more data that we were right about this,

(42:52):
And like I said, the case about Trump v. Biden
and what that means for our interests abroad and what
that means for our allies is and other allies, the
case is very strong Trump v Biden without even this
this kind of really clear data, you know what I
would consider sort of argument enders on some of these issues,

(43:13):
and then when you add them in, you just go,
what is the other side? Even what world are they
living in? Oh yeah, Joe Biden. But Tony Blinken, I mean,
look at look at these people. Tony Blinkin would be
you know, in over his head working in HR at
some company that you know makes mufflers somewhere, Like, what

(43:34):
is how are these people running global foreign policy? How
are these people staring down our enemies and thinking it's
a joke. The whole thing was absurd. And the person
who's calling the shots over them, the person who's actually
supposed to be the you know, the grand strategic mind
is not of right mind as a matter of fact,

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(45:10):
on vacation, so he's having a good time homing back
next week. We have much to discuss here, friends, and
one thing I wanted to touch them. And I'll have
to revisit this when Clay has joined us once again.
But one thing that I wanted to point out is

(45:30):
yours truly perhaps known to some as the Buckster, or,
as I told my wife to her laughing at me,
the Milman of radio, because I always deliver that that
didn't go. I thought it sounded cooler before I it
sounded cooler in my head, you know. But one area
where I think I've been I've been prescient, is that

(45:53):
there was never going to be a Michelle Obama for
President ticket. This is something that people have talked about
for a year. As you know it has come up.
I have been asked at cocktail parties, At actual cocktail parties,
I don't go to many, especially now that I have
a baby, but I do go to a couple here
and there. You know what about Michelle Obama. You know,
this was this is something and as you know Clay,

(46:13):
I won't I won't get into his point of view
on this too much because he's not here to to
explain it himself. But Clay thought maybe too. I've just
always thought, you know, she doesn't want to do it.
And I think that the more people were exposed to
the actual person of Michelle Obama. Not the media at

(46:34):
really the peak of its powers. In a lot of ways,
the media during the Obama era and toward the end
of the Obama era was we were really out gunned.
It was the early days of social media, and people
didn't even realize that the whole game was rigged places
like Twitter and Facebook. We're saying to ourselves, oh, but

(46:55):
you know, we can get a fair shake. I mean,
I knew we couldn't. But if you weren't operating on
those platforms as part of your job, you would have
as a conservative, you had no idea that they were
all rigged. And this has become a matter of public record.
Now this is not something there's that there's a debate about.
Thanks to Elon buying Twitter, for example, we know this
stuff was rigged so only certain messaging would really be

(47:18):
able to get out there.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
And and there was a whole bunch of ways that
they were able to just sway things. But the the
way that they built a cult around Michelle Obama was
truly it was an all in, all hands on deck
effort by the apparatus. I mean they they were all

(47:43):
in on this, and and there was a time when
if you criticized Michelle Obama you were going to get
I remember, you know what, I'll even I'll even cite
it my friend Will Kine, who's doing a phenomenal job.
As I knew he would, always knew, Will was just
gonna be you know, growing, growing, growing. You know, Will

(48:06):
and I sat together at their Real News table again,
Glenbex the Blaze for I don't know a few years
I was. I think I worked in the Blaze for
like five or six years, and I think three or
four of them, maybe Will and I were sitting day
in and day out our table together. Super talented guy,
really good guy. But I remember I think it was
on scene because he also was a CNN contributor, because

(48:26):
CNN used to have people who were conservative on and
then they stopped during Trump and now maybe they're getting
back to it used to. But I think Will called
out on CNN Xeric guy. See if you can find
this clip. Michelle Obama held up a bring back our
girls sign on social media, and this was in reference

(48:50):
to the kidnapping. By kidnapping, but I know the group,
they don't have to yell the group in my year
team were. In fact. In my new book, which will
be out of January, I get to talk about how
yours truly kind of knew about Boco Haram before anybody else.

(49:10):
This little teaser there, there was a little bit of
a little bit of conversation. I'm just saying some cool,
some old school CIA stuff maybe coming up cleared for release. Oh,
I know a lot about Boco Haram. Buck's been fuck
Buck deployed to West Africa. I haven't talked about that
on the show before. I don't want to get too
deep into it now because you're gonna have to buy
the book Everybody, which is cleared and is coming out.

(49:33):
And I'm sorry, you know, I've been talking about it forever.
It took like six months for the CIA to clear
this thing. It is cleared, though, and I can talk
about that. I actually have some West African expertise. So yes,
it was boc Ohram, the group they kidnapped. Are sorry
they kidnapped these girls from a school. It was a
horrible thing. Boca Haram would have been the most lethal

(49:55):
terrorist group in the world around this period by casualties,
by deaths. They were walking suicide bombers into crowded churches
and I it just you know, killed fifteen people, thirty people,
fifty people. I mean, this was regularly happening. It's just
horrendous stuff. Jie hottists aligned with al Qaeda, you know,

(50:16):
same worldview as Hamas. It's the truth. But Boco Haram
kidnap these girls. And Michelle Obama held up this this
bring Back our Girls signed administration, right, I mean it
was it was I forget what year. I want to
say this was twenty fourteen. If I get that right
off the top of my head, that's pretty good. I
think it was twenty fourteen, maybe twenty fifteen, and uh yeah,

(50:38):
check that one for me team. But the whole thing
was like you're posting this on social media. Your husband's
the president, like have him. You know, we got drones
like go get them, go save them when you bring
back our girls? And Will pointed out and CNN it
was Don Lemon. It was Don Lemon. I remember all
the thing. Don Lemon freaked out over this, freaked out

(50:59):
over this. You know, you know, how dare you? Don
Lemon's and Moron, but you know, freaked out over this?
How dare you? And I just remember it's it wasn't
that Don Lemon knows nothing about uh about West Africa,
Boca ram anything, right. I mean, I actually don't think he.
I don't mean this as exaggeration. I don't think that
if you gave a map of Africa to him, he

(51:19):
could find Nigeria on a map. I truly don't think
that he could. But yeah, now I get to tell you, guys,
because I wasn't able to before that. My actual first
portfolio before I moved to Iraq in the CIA was Africa.
Stuff was in Africa, particularly West Africa. So yay get
to talk about it finally. Uh. And there's more than that.

(51:41):
It's not your story in the book. There's more than
just like so I learned about this place. Uh yeah,
I spent some time over there. But back to will
Don Lemon, Michelle Obama, this whole situation, the cult of
Michelle Obama was so strong that everybody knew if you said,
if she stepped into the arena, if she got political

(52:03):
on something, and you said anything, that it was day
all attacked. Right, it was oh my gosh, how dare you? Oh,
Michelle Obama? And it even went beyond that, It went
beyond that to this bizarre Uh here was I right
on the year guys, you know, to bring back our
girls thing? Was it twenty fourteen? I was right twenty fourteen.
That's pretty good. You know, I'm getting old, and for

(52:25):
me to pull uh, eleven years ago off the top
of my head, this is this is pretty good. Recall.
I'm just gonna say a little little pat on the back.
Maybe I am the radio mail man. My wife is like,
stop it, like you're just you know, you're just you're
not helping yourself. Buck. Carrie's listening right now. She's on
the road. So there was this time when you couldn't

(52:46):
criticize Michelle Obama, and you also had to say that
she was, you know, the most brilliant first lady of
all time, the most beautiful first lady of all time,
the most incredible, and all all we would ever hear
about was how what wonderful she was. And if you,
if you had any even if you were like I
don't want to hear about it, you know, I don't really,

(53:08):
it reminded me at on a much lesser level. They
did this with Ruth Bader Ginsburg too. They just created
this whole cult which by the way kind of blew
up in their faces because Ruth Bader Ginsberg refused to
retire and so, as we know, another Supreme Court seed
for Trump. But they create this cult where we were
watching workout videos of Ruth Bader and adults were saying
things like wow, like look at her throw that kettle

(53:31):
bell around. She's like a just like a tiny ancient
woman who's got like a five pound weight max. Maybe
a two pound weight in her hands. I'm supposed like,
I'm glad that she's trying to be healthy, but I'm
supposed to be impressed by this. This, this is same, this
is real. You can find these videos. You think I'm exaggerating,
but no, no, the Buckster always knows. And on the
Michelle Obama thing, I've just always been a doubter of

(53:57):
not just of her running for president, but of I
think that the more people would see of Michelle Obama
without the media's creation of the greatest, most beautiful and
most brilliant, most perfect first lady or really person ever
even more perfect than Barack Obama, if that was even possible.
But you know, if you work at CBS or you
worked the New York Times, that was the party line.

(54:18):
Michelle Obama most amazing person to ever lived. Here, she
is where you get to actually learn about the real
Michelle Obama. We're just talking about women and giving birth
to children and your womb. I want you to listen
in to the former First Lady here on a podcast

(54:39):
because now she has to do podcasts too. This is
cut three play it.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
So many men have no idea about what women go through.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Right.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
We haven't been researched, we haven't been considered, and it
still affects the way. A lot of male lawmakers, a
lot of male politicians, a lot of male religion leaders
think about the issue of choice as if it's just
about the fetus, the baby. But women's reproductive health is

(55:11):
about our life. It's about this whole complicated reproductive system
that does the least of what it does is produced life.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
It's a very important thing that it does. Okay, okay,
you heard the quote. Now was the end of the clip.
I want you to hear the quote. She's a woman
and she's saying the least important thing that the female
reproductive system does is produce life. The least important thing.

(55:45):
I mean, I'm trying to think of what I can
say on the radio here that is so it's a
heinous thing to say, it's a stupid thing to say,
but it's also an illuminating thing for Michelle Obama to say,
just like so much of what we have been subjected to,

(56:09):
whether it was the Fauci, the Worship and the CDC
and the nih and Naiad or Joe Biden sharp as
attack or Trump is Hitler or whatever, another mirage, another
mirage that I think has, as they all should, evaporated,
evaporated as the light of truth is allowed in and

(56:31):
people can see for themselves. Michelle Obama is not bright
and is not a very good person, at least when
it comes to public policy. That is one of the
ugliest things I've heard a person say on any podcast
in a long time, like an expert on women. Oh,
I'm a man, so I can't know about these things.
The most amazing thing in my life has only been

(56:53):
around now for forgetting when he was born like six
weeks and my wife and I I just beam with
pride every day. And I know what the Libs will say, Oh,
Michelle Obama loves her children. And you know she was
talking about this in the context of women's rights. Yeah,
but she's on a podcast and she's sharing this point
of view. And what people here is what she said.

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What young women who are impressionable, who have been part
of the Michelle Obama cult or they've been indoctrinated into it,
what they hear is the least important thing your womb
will do is give life. I mean, you want to
talk about perverse, evil, misery inducing. It is one of

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the worst things I've heard a person say in public life,
in a you know, in a very long time. And
it is. But I'm not surprised because Michelle op like
I said, Michelle Obama like so many and Clay has
like full credit to Clay, he has let what he
you know, thinks about Michelle Obama be well known on

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this program. But I really think that this mythology that
was built around her, she should do more podcasts. Let's
hear more. In fact, I have another another clip for
you that we will play so you can say, the
more you hear Michelle Obama actually talking about things. And
I know this doesn't surprise you, but it's fun because
we were right, and we knew right. You were right.

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I was right. We've known this all along. They created
this whole mythology. The more you hear from Michelle Obama,
the not only you won't be impressed because she's not impressive,
the less you will like her, which is you know,
it's it's quite a thing to say, but it is true.
It's like, the more you hear from Joe Biden, the
more you knew that he wasn't all there. The more

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you hear from Michelle Obama, the more you'll be like, Wow,
this person is not running for president. And it's kind
of remarkable. This person was held up in the way
that she was by the media as long as she
was all right. The day our son came in this world,
I'm just talking about it, life changed in so many
ways for carrying me and all for the better. One
of those changes, though, is thinking about our son's future

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