Daily Review With Clay and Buck - May 30 2025

Being Anti-Trump is an Identity The state of the U.S. economy, immigration policy, and judicial activism, all through a conservative lens. Buck Sexton opens the hour by highlighting recent economic data, including a significantly reduced trade deficit, which he attributes to President Donald Trump’s tariff strategies. He argues that the mainstream media and economic “experts” underestimated the effectiveness of Trump-era trade policies, framing the current economic rebound as a vindication of those policies. The conversation then shifts to a major Supreme Court decision allowing the Trump administration to revoke humanitarian parole for over 530,000 immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. Buck critiques the judicial overreach of lower courts and emphasizes the temporary nature of parole, asserting that it was never intended to provide permanent residency. He also criticizes Justices Ketanji Brown Jackson and Sonia Sotomayor for their dissenting opinions, framing them as partisan actors rather than impartial jurists. Trump Provides Clarity Another hot-button issue discussed is the Biden-era antisemitism controversy on college campuses, particularly at Harvard. The State Department is now reviewing the social media activity of foreign students for antisemitic content, raising constitutional questions about First Amendment protections for non-citizens on U.S. soil. Buck introduces his “skirmishing” strategy—a metaphor for how President Trump is tactically challenging entrenched institutions and activist judges. He argues that judicial activism has become a tool of the left to obstruct conservative governance, likening activist judges to “extra presidents” undermining the rule of law. Former FBI Special Agent, Nicole Parker A deep dive into the current state of the FBI under the leadership of President Donald Trump, featuring an in-depth interview with former FBI Special Agent and Fox News contributor Nicole Parker. The hour centers on the internal reform efforts underway at the Bureau, led by Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan, both of whom are described as committed patriots aligned with the Trump administration’s law-and-order agenda. Nicole Parker provides firsthand insight into the cultural and operational divide within the FBI, distinguishing between “FBI One”—agents focused on upholding the Constitution—and “FBI Two”—those accused of politically weaponizing the agency. She emphasizes the need for patience as the Trump administration works to root out entrenched bureaucratic issues that have festered since the Obama era, citing the failures of former Director Christopher Wray to enact meaningful change. The conversation also addresses the FBI’s shift away from social activism under the Biden administration, including a rollback of official Pride Month activities, signaling a renewed focus on core law enforcement duties. Parker applauds the transparency efforts of the current leadership, particularly their willingness to release information to Congress and the public, including updates on high-profile cases like Jeffrey Epstein’s death and the FBI’s role on January 6th. The hosts and Parker also explore the broader implications of political bias within federal agencies, the challenges of restoring public trust, and the importance of accountability in government service. They discuss the cultural transformation needed within the FBI and the intelligence community, drawing parallels to the CIA and the impact of diversity-focused hiring practices initiated during the Obama years. Actor Dean Cain on Pro-America Content Dean Cain on Little Angels: Actor Dean Cain joins the show to promote his upcoming family-friendly sports comedy Little Angels. Cain, who wrote, directed, and stars in the film, shares how the story—about a disgraced college football coach who ends up coaching a girls&rs

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome it, everybody. Friday edition of The Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now. Much to discuss
my friend latest updates on the economy looking good and
trade working out more like Tromp Settigwood than the experts.
Remember the experts quote unquote, I don't know what was

(00:27):
it about a month ago? The sky is falling. Trump
has ruined everything. No, not true, the sky is not falling,
and in fact things are looking great, so probably the greatest.
We'll talk about more of that here coming up shortly.
Some other things to put on your radar. Supreme Court,
you know what. I'm going to dive into this too.

(00:48):
Supreme Court has granted the Trump administration's request to revoke
humanitarian parole for over five hundred and thirty thousand immigrants
from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. And let me say,
I think there was a hint about where this was
supposed to go, and the fact that it's not forever,

(01:09):
it's parole, it's not backdoor to status. It's hey, because
we're a nice country, We're gonna let you chill here
for a bit because things back home are rough, but
eventually you're supposed to go back home, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
So that's a big, a big part of this. And
I think we'll discuss the uh the university fight, by
the way, is very much uh taking you know, day
in and day out, new headlines here, Trump fighting with
the schools, and the State Department is now going to
be reviewing social media of students at Harvard for anti semitism.

(01:47):
So that's gonna that's gonna get interesting. And look, some
of these things I want to discuss a strategy that
I call I call skirmishing, and so I'll get back
to this in a little bit. Some of these things
I think Trump will prevail at the court, and some
of them are also a little more we'll see and
the ones that are a little more will see. Maybe

(02:07):
he wins, maybe he doesn't. But it's worth the shot.
It's worth a shot.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
The Democrats. Democrats will do things, and I mean the
president when it's a Democrat Congress, when Democrats have control,
they will do things that they have themselves explicitly admitted
is unconstitutional. They'll just do it, all right, because if
it's pursuing their agenda. If it's more you know, statist lunacy,
they're like, let's go for it. You know, you know,

(02:34):
how many divisions do you have? Is the attitude right?
Or if you're a fan of ancient Rome? What was
it to Pompey saying don't quote laws to men with swords.
That's kind of the Democrats' attitude when they're in charge, Like,
we've got the swords, so guess what. We'll talk about
the skirmishing strategy from the Trump side of things later on.

(02:55):
We got the Harvard stuff. We've also got Dean Caine
joining Third Hour. You know him from being Superman and
many I certainly know many of the ladies out there
know many of the ladies out there know this guy
is from back in the day when he's Superman. We'll
talk about this cash, buttel also on the FBI stuff. Look,
we have so much show that you just you're gonna

(03:17):
have to strap it in because we've got a lot
of ground to cover. I'm going to dive into this
economy thing one second. Just want to put out a
shout out. I did a little deep dive on North
Korean infiltration of your laptop, meaning any American's laptop and
what they can do well. Wall Street Journal had a
fastening piece I go to a deep dive and also
some of the background in context on how North Korea

(03:39):
operates globally. This one I'm not going to do on
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(04:02):
have great hosts on there, Carol Markowitz, Tutor Dixon. I
always want to say Sean Parnell, he's busy, like being
a big big deal with the Pentagon. Now our friend
Dave Rutherford, former Navy seal. So go and check that out.
You will love that podcast network and look for that
North Korea episode to drop later today. All right, let's
do the economy just I want to set the table

(04:23):
with this one, and then we'll get into the immigration
situation and We'll take a lot of your calls too,
and talkback is working again. I love talkbacks, I love
calls to, I love calls to, but talkbacks a lot
of fun. So you can and if you send a
talkback that's funny and pokes fun at Clay, we can
play it on the air and I can send it
to him while he's on vacation with his family. As

(04:44):
you know, he's on vacation for the next week. So
if you say something funny about flute playing or something
like that, we can play it on the air and
I can just text it to him and be like, hey,
big guy, they're still thinking about you. They miss you.
Here we go. CNBC's Rick Santelly on this is really
interesting on trade deficit numbers. This is cut one. Let's

(05:05):
hear what Santelli has to say.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
This is the trade balance, which is a deficit expecting
minus one hundred and forty three billion. Wow, it comes
in much much smaller, minus eighty seven billion.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And now this follows a.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
One sixty three that gets converted to one hundred and
sixty two billion with a minus sign the worst since
record keeping nineteen eighty nine. Then we cut it in
half to eighty seven point six. Eighty seven point six
would be the lightest n I have to really go back,
eighty seven point six would be the lightest since Wow, September.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Of twenty three.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
And this really does underscore how the movement of goods
and services has really changed due to a variety of
terror related issues.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
This is a rebalancing of our trade deficit, and it
is exactly what Donald Trump has been pushing for all along,
and what we've been told is going to lead a catastrophe,
even trying to change it up a little bit, Well,
why is that? Notice how there's a built in assumption.

(06:10):
And I'm not just talking about the Trump haters, because
with the Trump haters, it is you know, Donald Trump says, hey,
what a beautiful day. It's seventy five with a nice breeze,
and they're like, it's a horrible day. People will die
because of the day.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
They just doesn't matter. They hate him, So their identity.
Part of the problem of the opposition to Trump is
that anti trump Ism is now and has been for
a long time, an identity that people have, you know,
the same way that being concerned about climate change is
an identity. It's oh I'm a person who's concerned about climate.

(06:44):
Do you know anything about it?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Have you thought about it? Really?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But it's an identity. Being anti Trump is an identity,
and it's very hard to get people to separate from
that because they like all the things that they think
it tells others, right, they like the things that it
says about them in the eyes of their peer group.
So I'm not just talking though about those people, because
that's you know, anti it's trumped arrangement syndrome. I mean that,

(07:11):
really this should be added to I think we'd be
on the DSM six now right, the Diagnostic Manual for
Psychiatric disorders. I think we'd be on six. I don't know.
Some of you listening are psychiatrists. Maybe a couple of you.
Most psychiatrists are. Incredibly it's the most left wing medical profession,
Isn't that interesting number? By far, psychiatry most left wing.

(07:31):
You get some great right wing psychiatrists, I'm sure out there,
but it's like a ninety night, it's like being a
Republican in Washington, DC. But I think that Trump arrangement
syndrome should be added to it because it is impossible
to reason with people about anything Trump related. Once they
have fallen victim to it, maybe we should feel sorry

(07:53):
for them, because there's like Trump, it's so horrible. Trump
is going to do all the horrible things. Really, what
are the horrible things that are happening right now?

Speaker 5 (08:00):
Now?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
What is the thing that is happening in this country
that the world else sposed to be so horrified about?
Immigration laws are being enforced? If they're so horrible, why
are they laws? And why have they been supported in
a bipartisan fashion for decades and decades? Why didn't the
Obama regime get rid of these laws? Because they knew
it would be deeply unpopular, so they have to pretend
they agree with the law while not enforcing it. That's

(08:22):
a whole different thing. But what the economy, economy is
looking great. I feel like Warren Buffett right now because
I bought into the dip and I believed, I believed
in Elon, I believed in Trump, I believed in the
economy when everyone was, oh, it's so terrible. So you
sit here, though, and you look specifically on tariffs, and
this is an area where even people who are more

(08:46):
pro Trump on most things but have there let's say
their misgivings about some things. Have been saying this is
where it's all going to fall apart, this is where
he's going to screw up the whole administration, and now
it's whole. On a second, economy is doing well, the
trade deficit is shrinking. The thinking around this has somehow
become so zero sum, meaning it's one. It is just

(09:09):
the one thing, and then that's it. There's no nuance,
there's no h Somehow we are to believe that the
trade deficit that we have is either perfect or does
not matter at all, and those things cannot be true.
That's not possible. Or it's the same way that when
you try to cut any government spending, even though government

(09:32):
spending increases year after year. I know Big Beautiful Bill
will talk more about that as it continues to make
its way through the Senate side. But we're led to believe,
by the Forever Regime, by the narrative, that the amount
of government spending that is occurring right now is the
perfect amount unless it's more. If there's more spending, then

(09:53):
that's the perfect amount. But if you try to cut
that spending even a little bit, it is dog and
cats living together. Nass hysteria, cannot have it right. So
you're familiar with this thinking that is very a very
big part of the narrative, the propaganda that is out there,

(10:13):
and of course you know logically it's untrue. With our
trade deficit issue, somehow we are led to believe that
all these other countries that have tariffs against us, which
is all of the countries, are doing something that does
not benefit them. It is clearly of no benefit to them,

(10:34):
and that the way things have shaken out so far
is the perfect way for things to be when it
comes to trade. Don't touch it. It's like a Swiss watch.
It's working exactly as it is supposed to. But that
makes no sense. Why is it perfect? And why are
these other people doing tariffs if it's so dumb and

(10:56):
so bad, and why is it such a terrible idea
that we would at least match them to some degree
on the tariffs that they already have in place, so
that we can get to more of an equilibrium where
we don't just buy stuff, we make stuff. Eventually, if
you only buy stuff, you know what happens. You have
to just print and print and print and print more

(11:18):
money to buy the things because your productivity isn't based
in real market action of productivity. You're just you know,
you're printing, You're running there. You know, the money machine goes.
You're That's not a good place.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
For you to be.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's how you get to thirty seven trillion dollars in debt.
I might add at some level handling these things in
that way. Oh we're the reserve currency. We'll just spend
more money. Oh, somebody else will make all of our stuff. Okay,
but they have to buy our debt, and they have
to keep wanting to buy our debt, and then the
tendency is going to be on our side for us
to print more money to pay down that debt without

(11:58):
the underlying productivity of the making stuff and doing stuff
and manufacturing base that we need to sustain the quality
of life that our dollars have gotten us used to.
So Trump comes along and he sees this, and I mean,
I know, you know, Warren Buffett now is like trade
deficits are terrible. There's a fascinating video. I mean, I

(12:21):
could probably find it from years maybe twenty years ago,
so not that long ago, but like twenty years ago,
where he talks about Okay, well if trade deficits mean nothing.
What happens if we have one island that makes all
the stuff that lives next to one island that buys
all the stuff, and one island just makes stuff, one
island just buy stuff. Eventually the make stuff island owns

(12:43):
the buy stuff island because the only way that they
can afford to keep being the buy stuff island is
essentially a giant series of io used to the make
stuff island. Now I know this is Oh, it's also simple,
and it's more complicated than that. We have a bunch
we could put a bunch of econ nerd or trade.
The trade people actually are much better. The people who
really follow trade are much closer to Trump on this

(13:08):
than a lot of the people who are. I'm an
economist from such and such, and let me tell you
what's going on. Trump understands these basic market forces in
the way that somebody who has had to live his
life with the ups and downs of them can, and
somebody who just wants to be considered smart by the
faculty lounge and has never really done this stuff can't.

(13:32):
And you're already seeing this start to come to fruition.
And I want to also talk about the income number.
Something that gets left out of this discussion so often
is what we get money from the tariffs? Right that
people say, oh, tariffs are attacks, yeah, but also we
get money from them, And the United States was funded

(13:54):
almost exclusively by tariffs until the twenty first century, with
the passage of a constitucial amendment for an income tax,
which as a whole other conversation, that's a constitutional amendment.
Might want to take another look at at some point.
We've got we've got plans. We've got plans, So we'll
come back here and talk about the income numbers, and
then also dive into the end of parole, which is

(14:18):
supposed to be temporary, the end of temporary protected status
for some foreigners here. And the media hates this, of
course and wants you to be upset about it. But
why is it temporary if it's not going to be temporary,
meaning not forever. We'll discuss that coming up here. But
I was just talking about how we're thirty six trillion

(14:40):
dollars in debt and Trump is giving us the opportunity
to build a great economy, or build an even greater
economy than we currently have, and he's making a lot
of great moves, but I want to think about where
your finances are and how you protect your wealth over
the next ten years, the next twenty years. And I
was just talking to you about the money machines going,

(15:01):
you know, and all that that's going to continue to happen.
I hope we can stop this. I don't think we're
going to be able to stop this anytime soon. So
how do you stop the dollars in your bank account,
the money that you're working to say, from just being
eroded by government policy over time? Gold? Gold, my friends.
Just look at the price of gold that has seen

(15:22):
an appreciation over the past year of forty percent, and
that's because central banks are continued to buy up large
quantities of gold to stabilize their own currencies. Look, this
isn't about putting, you know, all all of the nation's
cash into gold. That wouldn't make any sense. No, it's
about balancing, taking action now for the long term, hedging
against inflation, and being prepared. That is my basic thesis

(15:44):
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we go. Let's dive into the immigration situation. Immigration situation
at the well, Interior enforcement's a big thing, and we

(17:58):
have the Supreme Court weighing in today saying that it
is in fact okay for the Trump administration to revoke
humanitarian parole for people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela. Uh,

(18:19):
and this is it's amazing the Supreme Court had to
weigh in. I want, I want to start from this perspective.
This is quite straightforward. This is something that is really
good for anybody who believes in the rule of law,
which is we say, hey, you can stay here, but

(18:40):
at some point you got to go home. And that
a court said at any at any level, a lower
court block the administration on this. So so let's just
understand what's really going on here. If you want to
see where the how how intense the law fair really is,

(19:03):
which is what this guy and I guess it's maybe
as a judge, judge fair doesn't sound as cool, but
it's judges now, right. It's not just people bringing law suits,
which is generally or bringing charges, which is generally what
you think of as law fair, you know, warfare by law.
This is judicial stuff. So yeah, also law fair, but
it's a particular flavor of it, you know, because it's

(19:25):
really the judges. Because I don't think prosecutors. I don't
think you're gonna have a rogue US attorney right now,
be like I'm gonna lock up the president. I mean,
you can try. Good luck with that one, buddy. I
don't think Trump is gonna brook that nonsense for very long.
But the judges, obviously lifetime tenure starting to notice a trend.

(19:47):
People that have lifetime job security, whether it's a professor
or a judge, causes problems. Causes problems. You know, it's
good to have to live in the market reality a
little bit and have to you, you know, earn your keep.
So this is what's going on here. A judge came

(20:07):
in and said that the administration, which has the discretion
to offer temporary, temporary safe haven, the administration was overruled,
overruled by a lower court judge. You said, you're not

(20:27):
allowed to end this. So this is again. I really
I like the simple analogies, and I like to boil
things down as much as possible because I think it
gives clarity. And I'm just going to tell you that's
what Trump does with these things. He Trump is the
guy who's in the meeting who says, what is really
going on here? And how do we make this annoying

(20:49):
problem go away? How do we fix it?

Speaker 5 (20:52):
Now?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Doesn't like to say, oh, we'll like to piggyback off,
my off, my associate and like, let's have another meeting
tomorrow about the meeting, and like, oh, this is a
child lenging problem, so maybe we could have a study committity,
you know, committee on the no. He says, you know,
what is going on here, and let's get this thing soft.
And to do that, I think you have to break

(21:12):
things down to their bare essence. And this is a
bit like if you if there was a storm, you know,
if there was if there was like a you know,
if there were you know, hurricane in your area. I'm
in Miami, so that's something that you know, is something
you think about. There's a hurricane in your area and
there's somebody out on the street. They're getting blown around,
and you say, hey, hey, you know what, come come

(21:33):
off the street, Come off the street. I got you,
I got you. You know, you got caught in this here,
you know, and I'll give you, you know, some some food,
some water, some safe harbor, and persons. Let's say the
person stays for a few hours and then the and
then the storm passes and you go, okay, you're safe.
There you go, you know, you know, good luck. Do
you go about your way, and the guy goes, no,

(21:54):
I don't think so. I don't. I don't like this
temporary thing. I think I'm gonna stay. You have a
guest bedroom. I think I'm just gonna make myself cozy
here forever. That is what we're talking about here. On
an immigration level, the United States says, Hey, Venezuela is
a mess. We get it. Nicaragua got big problems. We
get it. We're gonna let you stay here for a while,

(22:16):
but you are going to go home at some point.
This is not a forever thing. This is not a
forever thing. And they're also particularly upset about this right
now because we took in fifty fifty white people from
South Africa. Oh my gosh, so ABC, I'm reading the

(22:39):
ABC News right up of this. Do you want to
know who? Remember what I said yesterday about how Sotomayor
as much as she is dumb, she knows the only
thing she's supposed to know, and she is she's not
a smart woman as much as she is supposed to know,
or I should say, she's not a smart lawyer. Okay,
maybe she's, like, you know, smarter than the average person,

(23:03):
but she is not a talented or smart lawyer and
not certainly not wise, and I think, you know, pretty limited.
But she knows the one thing that the Democrats want
her to know, which is deliver wins for the team.
You're a left wing activist in a judicial robe. Give

(23:23):
us what we want. That's why you are there. The
law does not matter. And but I think I think
that uh Katangi Brown Jackson, Now you know who the
two are voted against is Katanji Brown Jackson also knows
that that her job is not fidelity to the constitution.
And I truly mean this. Her job is whatever it

(23:45):
takes to come up with some way to pretend the
constitution matters, deliver for the left, Deliver for the left
on anything that matters. People say, oh, what about this
nine zero decision or what about that Nino decision? At
some level that you know, first of all, those are
things where I think there's even a recognition that the
facade of judicial interpretation would be entirely gone. They wouldn't

(24:11):
even be able to have their defenders in the media
with a straight face say oh yeah, you know. I mean,
for example, when Colorado is doesn't it feel like such
a long time ago? When Colorado tried to just take
Trump off the ballot, and I think that was a
nine oh in the Supreme Court. They're like that, you
can't you can't actually just do that. You can't just
decide he did a bad thing. He can't run for

(24:32):
president anymore. There's no there was no basis in law.
People in these states did this. It was Colorado, right,
I'm remembering this right, God, so much information has to
go through my brain. And then Maine was considering it,
like Maine played foot see with the idea, but I
think didn't fully go through with it to take Trump
off the ballot. That was a thing. It was nine oh,

(24:53):
but one they would realize that actually looks that is
too much. That's too much. They can't play the game.
They can't deliver the long term wins they need to.
If it's clear that they're not even pretending, right, they
got to keep It's like the media with with objective
new you know, with being objective neutrality. Everyone knows CNN's

(25:13):
left wing. Everyone knows CNN is a Democrat propaganda outlet.
But they got to keep the pretense going a little bit,
a little bit. And then with the Biden dementia cover up,
no pretense, full on propagandists. You know, it's some people
are watching this is it's a joke. If I was
a leftist, Wow, this is an alternate universe. If I

(25:37):
was a leftist, I would watch one of these. Uh
these like you know online maniacs or whatever. It's like,
you know, I'm a socialist. Uh, I'm a communist. At
least there's honesty there. I mean, at least there's honesty there.
So I think in this case, uh, here's jack here's
Katangia Brown. Jackson, by the way, writing on this kise.

(26:00):
It's an executive power. It is something that the administration,
the the the Biden administration did and had the authority
to do. Half million people's a lot of people. It's
a lot of people to just let hang out in America, right,
half million people? And Trump comes in and what you see,

(26:22):
And this is a consistent pattern with Democrats. What a
Democrat has the power as president to do for his
advisors because he's sputtering and you know, drooling his apple sauce.
But what a Democrat president has the right to do.
A Republican president does not have the right to undo,
even if it falls within executive discretion right. So if

(26:46):
if Joe Biden has has the right to say yes,
Donald Trump doesn't have the right to say no, and
yougo will hold on a second. That's not how this works.
According to U Catangi Brown Jackson and son of Sonya
Soto mayor, that is how it works. Jackson, writing an opposition,
I love this too. How ABC News they notice? But

(27:07):
let me see if they actually cite anything from the Nope, nope,
the These are the tells you always have. I have
a Supreme Court decision. You have ABC News, a corporate
Democrat news outlet, that in their write up of this
pick nothing from the majority opinion. There's nothing there because
they can't have an explanation present in this news article

(27:30):
that shows you that only a moron truly could think
that this isn't something that the Trump administration is allowed
to do. There's there's no argument here. Jackson, writing an opposition,
accused the courts majority of quote callously undervaluing the devastating
consequences of allowing the government to precipitously upend the lives

(27:52):
and livelihoods of nearly half a million non citizens while
their legal claims are pending. If even if the government
is likely to win on the merits. In our legal system,
success takes time, Jackson wrote, and the stay standards require
more than anticipated victory. I would have denied the government's
application because it's harm related showing is patently insufficient. What

(28:18):
let me tell you, Let me break down what's going
on here. These people have a temporary right, at the
discretion of the executive branch, to be in the country
on humanitarian grounds. They have all these you know, open
borders ACLU type left wing lunatic legal groups that are
trying to find every way possible to keep them here.

(28:40):
And they want anchor babies happening, and they want people,
you know, try and however they can work the system,
keep them here as long as they can file some
frivolous claim, file some This is what they do. And
what you see is the Trump administrations like, ah, no,
we're done here, No Mas, you have to go. And

(29:04):
Katanji Brown Jackson realizes that the scam is up. And
so what she says is it's just so mean. What
you're doing is so mean because they have other claims. Well,
they don't have other claims. If the executive branch has
the power to say you're going home. Now, that's the
only claim that matters. And by seven to two, let's

(29:24):
be clear, seven to the Supreme Court is like, yeah, sorry,
you've got She even admits, she even admits that it's
likely the government is going to succeed on the merits.
But you see, delay is the whole point. Trump and
his team see through this. They see the way that
the Democrats abuse the system and abuse good faith, and

(29:47):
on immigration they do it more than anywhere else. Oh,
these are asylum seekers. No they're I mean, by the way,
maybe some of these might be, but I'm talking about
in general the southern border. Oh these are asylum seekers.
No they are not. Oh this is about humanitarian concerns.
No it is not. And then on this issue, well,
I just don't like what you're doing, and so I

(30:08):
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I do and as much as play does. Let's talk

(32:10):
to Nicole Parker. She is formerly an FBI, a special
agent of many many years, and a Fox News contributor. Nicole,
great to have you back on.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Thank you so much. I always love to join y'all.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Happy Friday, Happy Friday years. You have a fellow in
Miami in two which is very exciting, very exciting. Some
people are saying, Nicole, one of the greatest places, one
of the greatest places in America, Miami. We're loving it.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
I'm very blessed or grateful. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
No, it's fantastic. You get a little soft here though,
right like you cause you can just you can just
walk around and flip flops and a T shirt all
the time. I gotta sometimes go up to places where
they actually have to dress for the seasons now, just
to remember what it's like. So tell me this for
first up here, something that I'm a little surprised that.
I'll just tell you this. I was on Fox yesterday

(32:59):
and they I forget, I asked me a couple of things,
but one of the things they asked about was Director
Patel and deputy Director Bongino. I'm just gonna say, uh,
you know, Cash and Dan from from here on out,
just because that's how I think of them, and I'm
gonna mess up otherwise. Right, But Cash and Dan are
running the uh the FBI. Your your old outfit of
many years, your career FBI agent, and I was saying.

(33:20):
They asked me, I said, how do you think it's
going with these two? And I said, look, I know
both of these guys. I know that they're serious people,
and they're patriots and their fighters, and they're all on
board with the Trump agenda, and I think they just
should get what they're asking for, which is more time
to make the reforms needed. I'm gonna tell you, Nicole,
I got a lot of pushback from our side, I

(33:44):
mean from our people. Not forget about like we're not
even talking. We try out to waste too much time
on the on the Trump deranged, right. I know, I'm
talking about our team. I'm talking about people that voted
for Trump, and they are like wondering if everything's going
the way it should with the I can I pass
this off to you because I have a lot of
faith in Dan and I have a lot of faith

(34:05):
in Cash.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Right, I did too. I do too, And I can
tell you having work there, and I've seen things firsthand
and I've talked to you about it on your program.
There really were two fbis. There was FBI one, the
people that were just trying to do honest, good hard
work protecting the American people, uphold the Constitution in a
fair and unbiased manner. And then there was FBI two,

(34:31):
those that politically and socially weaponized the FBI, starting at
the very top in high level positions at the bureau,
and it trickled down all the way down to support
staff level members in different field offices. So I'm telling
you straight up, there are such good people. I work
shoulder to shoulder with them and they're sacrificing a lot

(34:51):
to serve our country. But there are a lot of
not good people that were at the FBI as well.
And I have to tell you that a problem like that,
it did not start overnight, and it's not going to
be solved overnight either, And so for Dan and Cash
to get in there and work as hard as they
have in just a few months, I am impressed. And

(35:12):
I understand that people like to see results. We're in
a world where we want immediate satisfaction, we want to
see things now. But the reality of the situation is
it takes time. And if you're going to solve the
problem properly, there's a lot to dig into and it
does take time. What you don't see on the outside
and having work there personnel matters, for example, that the

(35:33):
FBI are kept very confidential, HR matters, personal matters, movements
of individuals, accountability, tangible consequences. Very rarely do you hear
about that in the public eye. Doesn't mean that it's
not happening behind the scenes. And so to give them
full credit for their efforts, I do want to say
that we're going to need to be patient, but it

(35:55):
doesn't mean because we're not seeing immediate results, that it's
not happening, and I think it is fair to give
them some time to fix a problem. In my opinion,
I saw it star in twenty sixteen, so we're talking
all of ten years of things that never were resolved.
Jim Coman fired.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
No go ahead, go ahead, sorry, So Jim.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Comey was fired obviously in May of twenty seventeen, Christopher
Ray came in as the next director, and I can
tell you that THEI agents were hoping, please, Director Ray,
please clean up this place. He did not. He did
not clean up that place, so it festerred for that
many more years, and now they're coming in trying to
clean up the stuff that happened over ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, I was just going to say, I know, and
I'm in the Agency CIA for now fifteen years. I've
been doing media, but just based on my five years
there and what I saw during the War on Terror,
which was I would say the absolute peak of the
agency's sense of mission cohesion and everything else. But already,
because I stayed through the beginning of the Obama administration,

(36:58):
you could see some of these pieces coming into place
or oh this is getting real political. Uh, the notion
that as much faith as I have in Tulsi as
DNI and as much I don't really know Ratcliffe at all.
I'm not gonna pretend like I do. I've never met him.
I don't know what his deal is. But Trump has
faith in him. So that's a good you know, that's
a good start, I think. But I know Tulsi and
as much faith as I have in her in the

(37:18):
dn I, the notion that she'd be able to fix
the Intel community by May of twenty twenty five taking
the job two three months ago is I mean, it's preposterous, right,
So that that's kind of my for anyone's like, well,
how would you know what's going on with the FBI
speaking to me, not speaking to you, I just say, well,
I know that you can't fix the CIA in ninety days, guys.
So my sense is the FBI it might even be

(37:41):
a little bit worse. I don't know. I'm tough to
compare these two, you know, it's like comparing Fauci and
Komi is the worst public servants ever.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Right, So let me give you one example of you know,
things that you may not have seen on the outside,
but as an internal FBI employee. The social weaponization at
the FBI was completely off the rails. You know, I
support all different people from all different backgrounds. That is
not the issue. The issue that I had at the
FBI is that it seemed that they were more focused
on social issues than they were of the core mission

(38:09):
of fighting crime. And so just yesterday, and this is
on Fox News, there is an article out that an
email was sent out to FBI employees yesterday regarding upcoming
Pride Month. And under the Biden administration, it was constant
the social discussions, the clubs, the meetings, the groups. There

(38:30):
were like nineteen different social type of clubs at the FBI.
That is not the mission of the FBI. When I
signed up to be an FBI agent, That's not what
I signed on to do. That was not part of
upholding the Constitution and protecting the American people. So, for example,
this year, they are saying, look, we respect people of
all different walks of life, but we will not be

(38:50):
having official Pride Month activities at the FBI. We respect
whatever your decisions and life are, but you can do
that on your own time, not on FBI time, and
not on tax pay dollars. That in and of itself,
is a huge shift from what I saw, especially in
my last several years at the FBI. So again, it

(39:10):
might seem smaller and significant to the American people, but
I can tell you as an FBI agent, when you
were constantly getting emails about all these social justice warrior
clubs at the agency instead of the actual mission and
fighting crime, it became overwhelming. Anything other than the core
mission is a dangerous distraction in my opinion. And that move,
in and of itself saying going forward, we are going

(39:32):
to focus on the core mission and you can do
your social justice stuff in your own time, that in
and of itself is huge. So that's this one small
example that there are many examples. And one other thing
that I really love about what Cash and Dan are
doing transparency. They are telling the American people as much
as they possibly can. And there was nothing more frustrating

(39:55):
to me when I would watch Christopher Ray testify before Congress.
In every answer he's just never answered anything. And same
with Jim Comey. These guys they're out there saying as
much as they possibly can to inform the American people.
And again we have to respect that there are confidential
things that the FBI and investigations that are ongoing that

(40:16):
would jeopardize the case to discuss, but the fact that
they're releasing constantly new documentation to Congress, They're putting it
out there. You know this Epstein question. They both came
out very frankly and said, you know Epstein committed suicide.
We have video that he was by himself. You know
things like that that Americans have wondered that no other

(40:36):
FBI director has come out and said as blatantly and
directly as they have.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Can I give you some of these bit Can I
get get you to react to some of the specifics
because we have some cash recent cash statements made on
Fox director director Patel. This has caught nine guys specifically.
I think people want to know about FBI informants. This
has been talked about. Talker's been pounding this strong for
years because there's a lot of smoke FBI informants in

(41:03):
that crowd. On January sixth, this is what Cash said
Play nine.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
Former FBI Director Chris Ray eventually admitted to Congress there
were twenty six FBI confidential human sources in around the
Capitol January sixth, but not actual agents can you say
that's true?

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Are there more than that what you're learning from that?

Speaker 6 (41:23):
I can say that that is definitely a piece of
the truth. And eventually everybody's going to know the whole picture. Yeah,
because the American people deserve that.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
He says, the American people deserve the whole picture. Now,
my question for you, I've known Cash for years. You know,
I know Cash, right. I have no doubt that that
is his desire to get to that place where we
know the full picture. My question for you, Nicole, is
knowing the infrastructure and the internal workings of the FBI,

(41:53):
could they have already kind of made stuff disappearing. A
lot goes on in the CIA that's spoken written down
on a piece of paper, especially in the abroad places.
You know, is it within his is it within his
power at this point to get us the whole picture
about what the FBI and jan six, what the involvement was.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Based on that quote, I believe that he is going
to give you as much information as he possibly can,
and it sounds like there is information coming so people
talk about things disappearing. One thing I did find very
interesting is in the interview that Dan did on Fox
and Friends, he talked about a room that you know,
all of this information that had not been known to

(42:34):
anybody was presented to them and they're going through it now,
and there were certain things that hadn't been digitized. Things
like that. I think I again, they always say, don't
trust us, just watch the results. But I'm going to
tell you things move slowly, and not because they wanted
to move slowly, because it has to be done perfectly

(42:57):
and articulately. And and that is the way that they're
going to gain the trust of the American people, just
saying whatever they can say whenever, no, no, no, no, it's
got to be proper. But again, I think it takes time.
And I don't blame the American people. I can tell
you as an FBI employee, I myself didn't always trust
the FBI. There are a lot of people in what

(43:18):
I referred to as FBI one that really didn't trust
the FBI. The FBI has to regain the trust of
the employees first and foremost, and the American people, because
at the end of the day, the FBI is for
the American people. The American people, you are the boss.
The taxpayers are the boss to the FBI, and there
was a little bit of a culture there that they

(43:39):
always talked about needs of the bureau. No, it's not
needs of the bureau. It's needs of the American people
and the needs of the victims. And I really love
that Cash and Van have that mentality where they're shifting
the culture and the mindset of the FBI from needs
of the bureau to needs of the American people.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
You give me a sense. Give me a sense, Nicole.
If somebody asked me in the CIA during the War
on Terror years, I know you were at the Bureau
during the GYT two, right, but during the War on
Terror years, what percentage of case officers politically what I esd?
And this is obviously just perception, right, what I estimate,

(44:18):
I feel like it would be seventy percent or you know,
seventy percent of them right of center, maybe seventy five
percent right of center at least on the g WATT issues.
And then if it was analysts, I would say it
was seventy five percent in the other direction, meaning seventy
five percent more left wing, more democrat, you know. And

(44:40):
so there was very clear even within the agency, different cultures.
I want to know from you for FBI for the FBI,
you know, field agents who are actually the ones putting
the cuffs on people and everything else. What percentage of
them were about serving the people versus serving the bureau.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Okay, so again I'm going to to say FBI one
versus FBI two, FBI one the people that are there
to serve the people that pulled the constitution in a
fair and unbiased manner. Again, I don't know every single
FBI agent. I can just tell you the overarching general thoughts.
When I first joined the bureau in twenty ten, I
would definitely say it was more conservative as time went

(45:20):
on and the FBI was shifting their recruiting efforts and
shifting what they were looking for.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Even in says hr All, the communism starts in hr.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Well, it's it's really the shift and focus on the
diversity program that Obama really started heavy in the federal government,
and that definitely tripled into the FBI. I would say
that the culture definitely did change from the time that
I had joined till the time that I left. But
I would agree that you know, just in my experience,

(45:51):
the agents, those that are actually putting the handcuffs on
enforcing laws, you know, doing the arrests. They tend to
be more right leaning maybe, and again that's a generalization, okay,
and your right support staff analysts things.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Like that, I mean to me, to me, the the
FBI should be and nicolet we got to leave it
here about I mean, the FBI in my mind, given
the realities of the left and the right these days,
if it's not eighty twenty right left, like, we got
a big problem. So we got a lot of work
to do over at the FBI. We need a lot
of people to make sure they see the Constitution, in
the rule of law, law and order as their priority

(46:28):
and not the trans Day of Visibility, which is celebrated
at the CIA. By the way, I might say, it's like, actually, yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Those days that the FBI are over. But do you
know what I want. I want, Lady Justice to be
blind and I just want the truth. I don't really
care who you vote for. I want you to leave
your political persuasions at the front door. I want you
to walk into the door of the FBI and do
your job in a fair and unbiased manner, protect the
American people, and uphold the Constitution. And I believe that
is the goal of Cash and Dan as well. And

(46:57):
I think that they are working diligently and working hard.
Lets give them some time. Let's give them the benefit
of the doubt. They are cleaning up a huge mess.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
And so Parker of the Sorry, Yes, Nicole Parker, formerly
of the FBI and Fox News. Nicole, thank you so much,
Thank you.

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You'll have a good one.

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Trump and Elon just went live from the White House.

(48:58):
Let's join them in progress. It's really not leaving.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
He's going to be back and forth.

Speaker 7 (49:02):
I think I have a feeling it's his baby, and
I think he's going to be doing a lot of things,
but Elon's service to America has been without comparison in
modern History's already running one of the most innovative car
companies in the world. That you look at his factories
and compare them with some of the old factories we have,
and it's a big difference in the most successful space company.

(49:23):
And I guess in history you would have to say
the largest free speech platform on the Internet, et cetera.
Yet Elon willingly, with all of the success, he willingly
accepted the outrageous abuse and slander, lies and attacks because
he does love our country.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
I know that very much.

Speaker 7 (49:42):
He loves our country. Comes from another country, country that's
going through trials and tribulations, I would say, but he's
all about the USA and Americans oh him a great
debt of gratitude. So I just want to thank Elon
for his times special government employee. Can you imagine Nicoll

(50:03):
him an employee, but it's a special government employee, and
for coming and helping us, and he really has changed
the mindset of a.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Lot of people.

Speaker 7 (50:12):
A lot of people thought, you know, maybe we'll cut
one percent or two percent or three percent. Then they said, well,
we can cut a lot more than that, and we're
going to do it very surgically. We're going to continue
on the march.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
We're making America great again.

Speaker 7 (50:27):
When I was in Saudi Arabia and we were in,
as you know, three really great countries, predominantly the three
Qatar was great, Uye was great, Saudi Arabia incredible. What's
like such an incredible experience to be in those three countries.
But the crowd, Prince of Saudi Arabia, and I must

(50:49):
tell you the leaders, the great leaders of the other
two that we just mentioned, they all said the same
thing that the United States is the hottest country.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Right now anywhere in the world.

Speaker 7 (51:00):
And six months ago we thought it was dead. It
was like a dead country, and it would have been
a dead country we didn't have the right result of
November fifth, it would have been a horrible all right.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
So there we have it. This is really just to
send off for Elon afters which is what we thought
special government service, and I think Elan did a great job.
We're joined now by actor Dean Kine, you remember him
from Back of the Day, a superman, but still doing
great projects out there. His new movie out next week.
His little Angels. We'll get to that in a moment.
But Dean, I just wanted to cause I know you

(51:29):
also are a guy who follows politics. You're a conservative
commentator on your own right. What do you think about
Elon's tenure in the government. You're hopeful for how this
goes in the future.

Speaker 8 (51:38):
Oh yeah, extremely hopeful and super happy about what he
did to expose a lot of waste, fraud and abuse
and to modernize our systems. I mean, I've been around
those government computers. I know you've seen a government computer
or two in your day, sir.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
And just to step with this, they're still operating on
DAWs systems. In some places you have to blow on
the floppy disc to get it to work.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
It's insane.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
It shouldn't be it shouldn't be that way, and so
I think we're going to modernize a lot of that.
I think his his impact will be studied for a
long time. I think it's a sort of an inflection point,
at tipping point. And I am super grateful and thankful
to Elon Musk for the service to this nation.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
It's been unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, isn't it amazing? As well? Though that there was
such such opposition to him that people were even suggesting
that his companies. I mean, we go back now it
all writing it all seems well. Of course, people were
saying they're lighting Tesla's on fire. He's destroyed his brand.
The markets have spoken, it's like, well, now Tesla has
gone through the roof and Elon's going back to his

(52:39):
amazing companies, and he exposed waste fraud and abuse, and
it looks like Lex Luthor has been defeated.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Absolutely true.

Speaker 8 (52:48):
I mean they opposed him there for trying to point
out waste fraud and abuse in our government. The most
insane thing I've ever seen. He's and he is phenomenal.
And during all this time where they were fire fire
bombing Tesla's doing that stuff, I did my little part
and my son did his part. We both got new
Teslas to support him because at first I didn't realize
how good those cars were, and I was against the

(53:10):
EV mandate. Don't tell me what I have to do.
But then all of a sudden, you know, they started
firebombing his companies in his Tesla. I was like, this
is insane. Let me take a look at the Tesla.
I sort of did it as a lark and then
I got in that thing and it's insane. So it's
the fastest car I've ever been. In love it, love
his look forward. I mean, he is a groundbreaking man,

(53:31):
and like I said, I think we're going to look
back forever in history and go thank you, mister Mosk.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I agree with that, by the way, and I think
that everyone should be thankful that we had somebody with
his skill set. If he couldn't do it, nobody could
do it. I really mean that, you know, I agree
this was a job for somebody of his ability, his
specific abilities, you know, which is different than the way.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
The linear thinking of everybody in Washington.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah, of course. Well for them, it's just well, this
is how the machine operates, and the machine is so
big we can never change it.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
And he's like, this machine doesn't work, which you would
think would be a big deal.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
You'd say, hold on a second. I think the machine
is supposed to work. No, no, no, no. If you're in
DC long enough, Dean, the machine is defined by dysfunction.
That's the way's supposed to be.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
And it's too big and it's awful.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
So let's transition here and do more of the entertainment
side of things in your work. First up, I did
want to give you a chance. Tell everybody at the
movie coming out next week, Little Angels. Yes, what do
you need to know?

Speaker 8 (54:25):
Okay, so Little Angels go to Little angelsmovie dot com
and then press theaters and demand it being your area
if it's not in your area. It's a very family
friendly film. But it deals with sports because I'm a
sports guy through and through and through. I played every
sport under the sun growing up and college. I was
a three sport guy. And then I went to the

(54:46):
NFL for the Buffalo Bills for a short time before
I got injured. Then I had to just go find
something else to do. So I decided to take a
lesser role, be an actor and play Superman. So it
was a great thing. So this movie, I wrote it,
I produced it, I directed it. I did everything. If
you don't like it, it's my fault one hundred percent.
But it deals I mean, you have a six month
old or something like that, right, so your kid won't watch.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Six week or six weeks. He's just a little chunk man.
He's just starting to smile.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
Now.

Speaker 8 (55:12):
Yeah, that's congratulations. Best thing in the entire world. I'm
a single father. My son's twenty almost twenty five years old.
He's my best friend, he's my favorite human being. So
you got your little your little minime there. Congratulations. If
he has anywhere near the thickness of your hair, he's
gonna be just fine.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
You know what, Can I just say this deed? We
think he does, except he's a redhead, so he's gonna
he's good. We got to My dog's name is Ginger.
I don't know how that's gonna work out, but my
son's got red hair, for sure, he's gonna be ginger.
The second Yeah, wow, well done. My son had blonde
hair and I'm and it's gotten darker. But yeah, you
never know what you're gonna get in that genetic lottery.
You never know what's gonna happen. But as far as

(55:49):
family entertainment goes, Little Angels is all about that. But
it's also about you know, I learned so much playing
football in sports, and you learned that you can't do
it by yourself. You learn that you got to be
part of a team. You have to learn how to
deal with losing you, how to deal with people picking
on you, judging you, it's all life lessons and I
learned more playing football than I could ever explain, and

(56:10):
I try to get a lot of those life lessons
through in this film. And the kids are great, and
you really fall in love with the girls. It's a
story of a college football coach who, like a Nick Saban,
wins the national championship again, very cocky and cockshure and
full of himself. And then he gets in trouble for
saying something stupid about a woman kicker on his own team,

(56:32):
and he ends up having to go coach under thirteen
year old girls soccer. And he doesn't like kids and
he doesn't like soccer, so he has to adjust his
world to do this. It's a bit like Mighty Ducks.
And if it has one iota of the success of.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Mighty Ducks, then I'll be a happy man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Well, I mean my producer Mark, who's on vacation right now,
on leave right now, who's one of our guys in
the show. I've worked them for many years. I believe
Mighty Ducks is his favorite movie of all times.

Speaker 8 (57:00):
It's it's an underdog story. It's a story of coming
together as a team. So he's got good taste. Hopefully
he'll switch.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Over and like Little Angels more.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Well, I was gonna say, I gotta get him to
watch Little Angels and give the full review. Speaking of reviews,
you know this is getting a little too chummy on
this interview. I want to create a little a little heat,
mister Dean Kaine. All right, you're on the hot seat
now since command, let's might be pulling out a little kryptonite,
my friend, my women.

Speaker 8 (57:26):
My kryptonite is women, unless you're pulling out a beautiful lady. Whoa,
I'm in good shape. This just got freudy.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
This is what my dad said. Let's let's let's let's
look at the movie review for a se Okay, Miss
Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning. Okay, and let me just say this.
I am a overall a Tom Cruise maybe you know,
the most successful actor financially of all time. I love it.
I mean Top Gun is an absolute epic. I love it.

(57:52):
I love Top Gun, Matt. I'm not anti Tom Cruise
at all, and I think the first Mission Impossible movie
is a lot of fun. I haven't really seen some
other ones, so I jumped in on the twenty twenty
three movie, which is now on I think Amazon Primes
where I was watching it because my wife is gone.
I got a little time, so now I can watch
the movies. I think she like probably wouldn't like, you know,
so so that's the thing, like like I binge the movies,

(58:13):
anything sci fi. You know, she's not in any of that.
But I was like, I'll try this Dead Reckoning. Mission impossible,
Dead Reckoning. I think it is just trash. It's the
new one in the theaters. No no, no, second, it's
the one that's you can watch at home. Now. I
don't go to theaters. I know it's too a lot
of people. Don't people talk. I get too frustrated. But

(58:33):
you know, I like to be in my home. I'm
the grump, the curmudgeon. Clay's like the more out out
in the world people person. I'm very uh. I can
be a little introverted. But here we go, Mission impossible,
Dead Reckoning. I think it's trash. Everyone jumps on me.
I don't even know this. Clay apparently loved this movie,
and in fact, he loves it so much that he
weighed in from his vacation with a talkback. You guys

(58:55):
have it ready to go, and here's what he says
about this Mission Impossible movie play it.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Hey, everybody, I'm here at Universal Studios AKA a place
where people who like to have fun go to have
even more fun. It's Buck's miserable place, much like his
review of the first Mission Impossible Part one, which he
said was unwatchable.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
The greatest movie star of all time is confronted by
the greatest obstacle of his career and entity of AI
intent on destruction of the world, and only Tom Cruise
can save us from being destroyed. That's why everybody loved it.
The greatest actor of all time against the greatest obstacle

(59:42):
of his career, tons of pratfalls, suspense and incredible action,
and you could only hate it if you hate fun.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
I'm going to get on a roller coaster like all.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Good red blooded Americans, and when I get off, I'll
probably say thank you America for Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I'm just gonna say this team before I have you
wig in, before Superman picks a side here, Okay, which
is what's going on? I just wish they had hired
like a scriptwriter who knew how to write a movie.
I don't know. I just wish that there was something
that made sense. You don't have to agree one hundred
percent with either side who's more right on this one.
And I promise even if you agree with Clay will
have you back on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
Well, Clay sounds overly enthusiastic about it, let's put it
that way, and so I would probably fall somewhere in
the middle. I like Tom Cruise a lot. I like
him as a person. I know him. He is the
hardest worker that I've seen ever in this business. He
works crazy hard. He's a perfectionist, but sometimes when you're

(01:00:44):
making a movie, you can't be perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
No, it's perfect. So this is first the first of
I'm gonna let it go that Superman just split the baby. Fine, whatever, Superman,
you're supposed to save the day. You're not supposed to
fly down in the middle. But okay, I'm gonna let
it go. Because you know Tom Cruise. I find that
really interesting. What's he like.

Speaker 8 (01:00:59):
He's intent, he's as intense as he is when he's acting,
but he's got a great, smiley, friendly side to him too.
He's uh, I mean, I don't know him super well, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
You met him, you've interacted with him. I mean I
played basting with him. You could argue he's isn't he
like five to seven?

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
What I would do is I would drive the lane,
draw everybody in and literally shield them off with my
body and this sort of hand.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Can he pop the j Is he pretty good from
the perimeter?

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
I like his movies? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know. I'd rather have
Michael B.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
Jordan take that shot, or especially Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Well, Michael is either one of them particularly good? Interesting, No,
because I respect Tom Cruise's body of work tremendously, and
I do think he's made a lot of great It's
not like George Clooney, who I just think is wildly overrated.
I'm not even gonna try to get you in trouble
with that, although he's a communist so making, but I
don't I think Clooney like you think about his actual
roles and his in the movies. Yeah, Ocean's eleven. They

(01:01:57):
could have replaced them with fifteen people. And know they
could have replaced him with eleven other people. Nobody would
even plays ever than me, I would have been okay
with that. I think k would have been way better yes, personally,
and you don't hate America, which is also I love America.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Good point.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yeah, so so that's a that's a really strong vote
in your favor. But yeah, I just thought with Tom Cruise,
here's the thing, Dean, I need your help because we're
we're int a vibe shift now, as the kids say,
we're a vibe shift now where conservative everything is on
the march, more in the culture than it has been.
Are you seeing that for independent filmmaking? And or can

(01:02:33):
you and I sit down and I will write a
badass pro American script. I'm not saying I'm an actor
script and you could star and we'll do some some
cool you know, we'll do like mission impossible for right wingers. Yes,
let's do listen with your knowledge.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
Yeah, it would be too close to reality probably, but
but I but I give you the green light.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I would love that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
I would love them to do.

Speaker 8 (01:02:56):
A film like that that is pro America because I
am supremely pro America. I travel the world, I get
to go everywhere. I've this is this is my thing.
Is that is that you know there's not enough content
that we're America. So many of these movies it's like, oh,
we have a superhero or oh we have like a
super spy, but actually the real enemy is internal and
I'm like, no, that's actually not always the case.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Okay. Sometimes it's like Crimson Jihad and they want to
detonate a nuke in the Florida Keys like back in
the day. Sometimes it's is the is the shift though?
Is it easier now? I mean really, first of all,
thank you to vote of confidence and maybe you and
I'll be talking about this, yes, But but but is
there a shift now where you can get conservative and
I don't even forget traditional Americana style movies made now?

(01:03:39):
Or is it closer to being that? At least? I
know it's not there yet. But is it moving there?
Or is that just still unfortunately too far to make
it happen.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
I think it's too far for Hollywood, But I think
there are so many independent people, independent filmmakers who are
pushing it that way, and I think the audiences are
way more receptive because of the inauthenticity of this last administration.
They're seeing the ridiculous lies and the things that were
put out during the past four years, and it's all
being exposed now slowly but surely. And then you see

(01:04:09):
this pro Americana push going through and I think the
I think the culture is going to change tremendously within
the next couple of years. So we got to get
our movie out soon. Buck, You've got to get right
and starting tomorrow, because I do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Think there is time. I'm not writing a book anymore,
so I gotta just start writing a screenplay. Light sech
go you me, Kevin Sorbo Mel. We gotta have a dinner,
be like a meeting of the of the four families.
We'll get this thing in motion. Great meeting.

Speaker 8 (01:04:34):
I'll do it anytime. You tell me when I know
those guys both very well. So let's let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I like, I like where your heads at. Tell me this, sir,
where can people go for Little Angels again.

Speaker 8 (01:04:43):
Little Angelsmovie dot Com? And then you hit theaters and
it'll show where it's playing in your area, and if
it's not in your area, demand it and we'll put
it over there if I have anything to say about it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Dean Kin the Superman for people who love America. Thank
you so much. Sure good to have you appreciate.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
Thank you, sir.

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