June 5, 2025 • 62 mins
Trump's Call with XI Trump’s recent call with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Buck breaks down the administration’s efforts to renegotiate trade terms, particularly around rare earth materials, and praises Trump’s strategic clarity and leadership—drawing a sharp contrast with the previous Biden administration’s perceived indecisiveness and lack of coherent China policy. Buck also explores the evolving dynamic between President Trump and Elon Musk, noting some recent friction but expressing hope that their shared goals will keep the relationship productive. He uses this moment to underscore the importance of unity among influential figures who support American innovation and economic strength. CBP Senior Advisor, Ron Vitiello Immigration and border security. Ron Vitiello, Senior Advisor to U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Vitello details the dramatic improvements at the southern border under Trump’s leadership, including a 90%+ drop in illegal crossings, increased prosecutions, and the deployment of 10,000 troops. He credits this success to strong leadership, clear policy enforcement, and international cooperation with Mexico and Canada. Vitiello also updates listeners on the status of the border wall, revealing that over 100 miles have been constructed using remaining funds from Trump’s first term, with plans for 700 additional miles underway. He emphasizes how the administration’s use of tariffs has pressured neighboring countries to step up their border enforcement, contributing to a significant reduction in fentanyl trafficking and cartel activity. Buck passionately defends ICE and Border Patrol agents, pushing back against political attacks and media narratives that undermine their work. He highlights the dangerous conditions these agents face and the critical role they play in protecting American communities from cartel violence and illegal immigration. Identity Politics Obsession Buck critiques a controversial ruling by a Biden-appointed federal judge in Colorado, who blocked the deportation of the family of a convicted terrorist. He warns of the dangers of judicial overreach and the erosion of executive authority, especially when lower court judges act as de facto policymakers. A major segment of the hour focuses on the unraveling credibility of former Biden administration allies. Buck calls out CNN’s Jake Tapper for attempting to rebrand himself after years of defending the Biden presidency, accusing him of opportunism. He also dissects the political pivot of former White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, who recently announced her departure from the Democratic Party. Buck argues that her appointment was driven by DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) priorities rather than qualifications, and he critiques the media’s double standards in covering her tenure. A landmark Supreme Court decision that reaffirms the illegality of reverse discrimination. Buck explains how the unanimous ruling, authored by Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, confirms that all Americans—regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation—are equally protected under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. He frames this as a major blow to DEI policies and a win for merit-based hiring. Bad Blood between Musk and Trump? Buck addresses a growing rift between President Trump and Elon Musk. He analyzes their recent public spat over government spending and policy disagreements, while emphasizing Trump’s history of reconciliation and strategic alliances. Buck suggests that despite current tensions, the relationship may recover, as both figures remain central to the MAGA movement.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. We were talking the last hour a
bit about some of the big things Trump is discussing
or was discussing in the Oval office. I want to
bring you some of those highlights. We've got stuff about
restricting foreign foreigners from going to US colleges and universities.
(00:22):
We've got the foreign nationals from high risk countries that
are banned travel band, if you will, Lisa're not calling
them a Muslim band this time, because Cuba and Venezuela
not necessarily thought of, as you know, the Islamic world
have been some of the countries that are on there. Clearly,
it's not that I remember the first Trump administration they're
as saying it's a Muslim bands, and then they had
(00:44):
to add like North Korea onto it. They said, look,
these are just countries that are messed up. It wasn't
Trump's fault. There are a lot of messed up countries
that are Muslim majority. And then there's also some stuff
on the call with she and and Trump's relationship with Elon.
This is hitting a little bit of a speed bump.
You could say, the the self driving of the Trump
(01:07):
Elon relationship is having a couple.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Of bugs in the system. We'll talk about this.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It is not a surprise to.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Me that this is where things are right now.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But I I you know, wait, I'm just gonna say this.
When Trump and Elon, when I see there's a little
static with Trump and Elon, it's like watching my parents fight.
I'm like, no, come on, you guys are the good guys.
No fighting, It'll be it'll be fine, it'll be fine.
But my parents like never fought, so that was very nice.
But you know what I'm saying, let's see here we
(01:39):
have I saw other.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
People's parents fights. I'd be like, oh, that's not fun.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Uh, let's do, dude, do first. The Trump call with Elon,
this is this is a big deal because all the
tariff stuff with all these other countries, we all know
that can get negotiated. I think we're quite clear that
EU stuff, Canada stuff Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know we love Canada.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know Trump gives you some Trump gives you a
hard time a little bit, but you know we love
you Canada. China is a problem.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a different that's a different thing. Right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
The China is an issue for the United States, and
he's doing bad things, particularly on trade, and it's taking
a lot of our trade secrets and exploiting I think
the good faith of the American capitalist mindset and system,
and so we got to take.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A different approach with them.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Here. This was Trump just now in the Oval Office.
He had a chat with a president Shi Jinping of China,
and here is what he had to say about it,
Play twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We did a very good talk and we've straightened out
any complexity. This is very complex stuff and we straightened
it out. The agreement was we're going to have Scott
and Howard and Jamison will be going and meeting with
their top people and continued forward. But no, I think
(03:06):
we have everything. I think we're very good shape with
China and the trade deal. We have a deal with China,
as you know, but we were straightening out some of
the points.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Having to do mostly with rare earth magnets and some
other things. So it's produced trade tarif rates. They remain
in effect. We have the deal.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I mean, we've had a deal, we announced the deal
and will be I guess you could say I wouldn't
even say finalizing an up Scott. I would say we
have a deal, and we're going to just make sure
that everybody understands what the deal is.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
We have a deal, and he wants to get more
clarity on the deal. You know, what's one big difference
between this Trump administration that you're already seeing and the
Biden administration. Stuff actually happens with this Trump administration. There
are things in motion that are to the benefit of
(04:01):
the American people. Think about so much of what was
going on with Biden. What was the Biden What was
Biden's trade policy? What was Biden's China policy? Biden didn't
know that much is clear. So if the guy who
is named for the policy isn't even aware of the policy,
and we all understand why, it's pretty clear that there
(04:23):
would have been some gaps. You could say there would
have been some shortcomings in Biden China trade relations and
dealing with them in the economy. I mean, I'm sure
think about this. If you were putin and well, you
can't be putin and Chesion Ping, I mean, that would
be interesting, right, But if you were Vladimir Putin. This
(04:46):
is one of the problems I have now when I
do radio, is that Ginger the baby Ginger's very good
with the baby, so that's good news. But Ginger is
more attention starved than she's ever been. So now she
used to always leave me alone during radio. Now she
run over to me, and because she has free reign
of the house, of course, because she's spoiled, and she
drops her fetch ball at my feet during radio. So
(05:09):
if it ever sounds like I'm like, wait, what's going on,
it's because the dog and she she holds me hostage
because if I don't play fetch at least in the
commercial breaks, then she starts to whine, and you'll hear
all across the country they'll hear my little Australian labradoudal whining.
But you know, such such as last and it's I'm
telling you, because the little baby gets so much attention.
She's more than ever now. She's she makes these little
(05:31):
noises and stuff. Anyway, she loves the baby though. She's
very sweet to the baby. So at least I'm very
grateful for that. All right, So Trump and and Xi
Jinping are squaring off against each other on this trade issue.
And let's just take a moment to recognize if you
were Ji in paying or you were Vladimir Putin or
really any world leader, because we all operate. You and
(05:52):
I operate in the real world, which is other countries,
whether it's China or France, or the UK or Guatemala.
Other countries want to get the best they can for
their people when they interact with us, and you know what,
that's fine. That's how we would expect it to be.
This is why Trump's America first. The notion of a
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government representing the American people that privileges and prioritizes the
interests of the American people over non Americans should be
the basic approach of any administration. But actually Trump, it's
revolutionary because we've gone through so many iterations of well,
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what do the Europeans think? Well, what the you know
what is like the Human Rights Counsel or to the
Hague or whatever, the u N what do they think
about this? I don't care. I frankly don't care what
the UN thinks about anything. So if you were though,
picking who to sit across the table from you as
an adversary, uh, which means and I mean that by
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any country that's trying to get more from us, could
you have done better than Joe Biden or Anthony Blincoln.
Anthony Blincoln, really to think about the people who were
We're gonna talk more about Karina Jean Pierre later. I
know she was just a spokesperson really, but think about
those who were supposed to be making the key decisions
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around Biden. You wouldn't want any of these people to
work for you at your company. You wouldn't want any
of them as colleagues. They're not dependable, they're not wise,
they're not impressive. Not stuff matters. It matters with world.
You know, either either who the president is makes a
difference in foreign policy or it doesn't. And if it
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does make a difference, clearly we were at a huge
disadvantage with Biden as the President of the United States,
and we are seeing something very different now with Trump.
We're seeing something that we should have had all along,
which is somebody who can actually process Nego Sheate, has
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a strategy, understands the interpersonal dynamics of power.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Biden's just a graft machine. Biden's an imbecile. And I
said it all along, You knew it. I knew it
all right now.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
On the restricting foreign nationals from these high risk countries,
Trump spoke about this as well in the oval with
the Chancellor, not the Prime Minister, but the Chancellor of
Germany twenty six Play it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Please on your.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
New travel band?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Why now?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And if the Boulder attack was part of your reasoning,
why not include Egypt on that list where the suspect
is front well?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Because Egypt has been a country that we deal with
very closely. They have things under control. The countries that
we have but don't have things under control.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And why now?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I can say that it can't come soon enough. Frankly,
we want to keep bad people out of our country.
The Biden administration allowed some horrend this people and we're
getting them out one by one and we're not stopping
until we get them out. We have thousands of murderers.
I even hate to say this in front of the
Chancellor because you have a little problem too with some
(09:12):
of the people that were allowed to country.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's not your fault, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Not your fault. It shouldn't have happened. I told her
it shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
What she did, her meaning Angela Angler, was like Donald,
but we have to take all of this Third World,
from the warton, the war torn countries into America Achtung
I'm sorry, into Germany, but into Germany Achtung deutz Land
not good, not good, Angela not helping anybody out and
(09:42):
well helping I guess the people that are now exploiting
their access to German welfare and the German system. Isn't
it also remarkable how many of these people come to countries,
whether it's in Europe or it's in America, and they
and they have complaints, they want to complain, and we're
never allowed to look at them and say, why does
your country suck so much? I'm just wondering, like you know,
(10:03):
oh well, I'm not just talking about countries that have
a war, but it's also worth noting why are these
countries that having civil wars or having these problems. Usually
it's sectarian hatreds, so they hate the people that live
within their country, never mind how they're going to get
along with all the rest of us. But yeah, we
never get to ask that question. I just think that
there should be Again, this is one of the reasons.
(10:24):
And I say this, and it's not just because I
love getting high fives from my South Florida Latinos and
Latinas who listen to this show.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But it's really true.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
My South Florida, Latinos and Latinas or a lot of them,
Cuban Americans, Venezuelan Americans, they freaking love.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This place and they appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And they're also a voting Republican as they have for
a lot of humans have for a long time, and
more and more Venezuelans are. They appreciate this place. They
come here and they say, Wow, America is awesome. The
communist hellhole I left is a warning to the rest
of the world.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
This is why they're so great.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
When you get these people who show up from some
other country, they come in illegally. They're being told by
the NGO, you know, America did your people wrong, and
you know you should get all of the welfare you want.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And you should. That's not good. That's not good.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Anybody who comes to this country should be thrilled to
be in this country and should be working on their
americanness from day one. And we see what happens in
Europe and that's not the case. When I say working
on their americanness, you know, becoming productive, law abiding English
speaking members of their community, their society and all of that.
(11:47):
And that's that should be the expectation in Europe. It
was like self hatred on display. We'll never forget. I
was talking to the equivalent of the Swedish kind of
like the Swedish FBI.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I forget what they Braduh.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I was there years ago at the CIA, and we're
helping them with some terrorism issues.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh why did Sweden have terrorism issues?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Anyone want to guess? Anyone want to take a stab
at that one? You know, was spent all off all
of a sudden, so upset about uh the state benefits
for his free health care or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, He's like, no, No.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
They brought in a bunch of Middle Eastern Muslims from
war charned countries who guess what, hate the West, that
hate Europe and started doing really bad things. Started going
back and forth also between the country that they say
they had to flee for their lives and the country
that had taken them in. They arrive in many cases
in these countries and they think that we are suckers.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
They are taking us for a ride.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And you see this with some of the e moms,
for example, who have been very much on the radar
of m I five in the UK, which is their
domestic intelligence service and trying to expel some of the
some of them are so bad. We're like, look, you
got to go back to wherever you came from. That's
actually happened in Europe in some cases, but in Sweden.
I remember talking to him. I said, you guys have
brought in a million Middle Eastern refugees. What do you
(13:09):
think is going to happen with this? And they because
these weren't politicians, these are people that were dealing with
the counter terrorism.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Side, we have a big problem. We have a big challenge.
And he didn't just mean stopping terrorism attacks.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He meant they move into neighborhoods outside of some of
the major cities. They don't they don't want to learn
the language, they don't want to adopt the culture, they
want to set up Sharia courts.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
They want it their own.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Way, and they want to be able to advocate for
the slow but certain overthrow of the culture and the
rule of law and the.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Nation that they have come to imagine that.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know, it's like it's like I said before, these
when you're talking about people that are coming from these countries,
and you know, we saw this with the Boulder attack.
This guy's commas here. He says he wants asylum. He's
got a he's got a wife and children. They're here now.
And and he goes and he lights Jews on fire.
(14:09):
He creates a flamethrower and malots off cocktails. He's trying
to light Jewish people, Jewish Americans on fire, instead of
thinking about how lucky and grateful he is to be
in America.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's what he does.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This is this is as I was saying, somebody running
up to you says, I'm I'm there's there's a tornado coming.
Please take me into your house or else I'm going
to die, and you, out of the kindness of your heart,
say yes, sure, here, come into my cellar with me
and my family. And then as the tornado passes, they
look at you and they go, it's my house. Now,
(14:45):
that's happening. That has happened, and it is time we
woke up to this and said enough, no more of that,
Thank you very much. I'm glad to see the Trump
administration recognizes that we don't have to take people in
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Speaker 2 (16:33):
Thanks for making the time for us. Let's just start
with this.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
How is it that Trump is able to secure the
southern border almost at a one hundred percent level. I mean,
it's in the ninety something percent drop so quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
How do you do it?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Leadership matters. He's got a good team in place, with
the likes of Secretary Nome, and there are now consequences
unlike anything I've ever seen on the Southwest border. So
rhetoric that says we're going to do this, the American
people gave him that mandate action by the front line,
you know, directed by the leadership, and actual consequences to
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the event of crossing the border illegally are now in
place in a way. Like I've said, Like you know,
I've been in and out of this business for forty
years and I've never seen anything like it. It was
so rapid the change at the Southwest border. It even
surprised me.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But so I think this would be really interesting, Ron,
if I could just ask you, because I had seen,
unfortunately in the bad old days of the wide open border,
what happens. People would would walk up to border patrol.
I mean they would walk across where there wasn't a
wall or there wasn't barrier, which there's a lot of
places where that's still the case. They'd walk up and
they would wave border patrol down. They would say here
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I am, and sometimes through a translator, or sometimes they
would say it in English some version of I have
a credible fear of violence in my country. And they
would be processed and let into America, sometimes with a
like a ticket to a peer, and show up somewhere
in the system later on. I mean, the whole thing
was just a joke. What happens now if you show
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up and you just want to come into America illegally.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Well, it's a high likelihood that when you're arrested, even
if you gave up or if you were trying to evade,
there's a lot of that's still going on. You're taking
into custody like before, you're put into the system like before,
and then you referred for prosecution the acceptance right from
the US Attorney's office all across the southwest border and
the northern border in some places as well as over
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ninety percent. And so I'll just give you an example
of what that means. When I was a second line
supervisor in Nogallas, Arizona, we could not present a smuggling case,
a criminal felony smuggling case to the US Attorney's office
unless there were fifteen smuggled aliens in the vehicle that
we were trying to prosecute the smuggler for driving. Right now,
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they're taking first time entrants who enter the border illegally
as a case. It's dramatically different than it's ever been.
And so the high likelihood is that after your process
and put into the system, you're going to be referred
and then accepted for prosecution and you'll have to see
a judge for the crime committed crossing the border illegally
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when that process is over. And that was individuals sentenced,
regardless of what country they're from, they're sent back very rapidly.
The average time and custody for folks that are in
iced attention is very very low, low, lower than it's
been in a long time, and so people are being
removed from the US all over the world and very
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short order.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And also I'm seeing a lot of confusion ron from
some parts of the media, maybe confusion, surprise, astonishment that
there's such a drop in sentinel at the border that's
crossing what's going on there, Because I think I think
our audience, I think everybody right now, they listen, they go, oh,
(20:01):
I think I know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah, of course they know that this has been a
problem for many, many years. The President engaged worldwide, specifically
in Canada and Mexico, the threat of terraces tariffs, just
to make sure that they weren't allowing precursors to come
into the country from China, and that they had to
(20:25):
do more on the border, on the physical border, to
protect that border. And so both of those countries engaged
again in ways I've never seen. Right, ten thousand troops
from the Mexican National Guard deployed on their northern border,
our southern border. Canada has done more to protect their
physical border than I've ever seen. Helicopters, night vision equipment,
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dedicated patrols from state, local, provincial, and the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police, and so everybody is doing their part to
help protect those borders the sovereignty of each of their countries,
thereby giving us a better chance at the physical border
to find this stuff, and then the cartels know that
it's just not a walk in the park as it
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was for the four years of the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's that's remarkable. I just to make sure that everyone
is is clear on this one. What you're telling me
is that on tariffs alone, there has been a big
victory for the border, so that the tool of tariff
negotiations to get us border security that's already a win,
is what I'm gathering from what you're saying. Especially with
(21:34):
you know, or rather with Mexico and Canada, there.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Is no question that Canada and Mexico are doing more
than they have ever done in the history of the
relationships of these three countries than they are doing right
now today. And recognize, you know, Canada put together legislation
to spend millions of dollars on their border to help
us to help identify the threats that are there. They
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now have a fent are, which they didn't have before
January twentieth, twenty twenty five, ten thousand troops on the
Mexican border. And you'll remember the rhetoric when Trump got elected,
Claudia Scheinbaum the president in Mexico, all due respect, she
was saying terrible things about how she wasn't going to work,
she wasn't going to do the bidding of the United
States or this president. She deployed ten thousand troops. No
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one has ever done that before her or since, and
so that has led to a huge reduction in illegal
activity across the Southwest border, including fentanyl precursors into their
country and then fentanyl across our border.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We're talking to Ron Vitello, US Customs and Border Protection
senior advisor for this administration. Bron, let's talk about big
beautiful wall, major promise from Trump in the first term.
He has returned to this issue now in his second term.
I know that one of the ways that Steven Miller
and others are really trying to get people focused in
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on the need to pass this big beautiful bill is
saying that there's ample fund for border patrol, including for
wall barrier actually securing it. What can you tell us
about that and the status of the wall right now?
How long would it take if we had the funding
to get a lot more of it in place.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Let's do a little wall.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Deep dive well to get the requirement that's identified by
the border patrols, supported by the president. Right, he built
a lot of wall in the first term Trump won,
and we expect to build a lot more in Trump two.
And so what we're doing now, with the help of
the Department of Defense, we have ten thousand of our
own troops on the southwest border helping the border patrol
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side by side. Part of what they're doing is giving
agents better access to the border, fortifying the wall, and
increasing the infrastructure that prevents people from entering at the border.
About one hundred new miles of barrier placed either by
DoD or buy the border patrol itself with the existing
contracting and the funding left over from Trump ion. So
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Biden comes in puts a moratorium on all border construction,
and so it froze the activity for a while. And
now we're in the we have the ability for the
next year or so to spend the little money that's
left from Trump one on wall, and that's equated so
far to about one hundred miles, and then there'll be
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new wall constructed using the funds from Trump one, and
then we're hopeful that when the reconciliation passes, there will
be a huge investment in infrastructure, including wall and tech
that supports the wall and the agents on the ground
access to the border, to give us about another one
hundred about another seven hundred miles. Some of that will
(24:43):
be dual barrier. We'll have some stuff in the river
and on land in places like Texas where the river
is actually the border, and in other places will fortify
what exists and increase wall to about seven hundred new
miles under Trump two.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Is there are s and I know from just law
enforcements sources down along the border, border patrol sources and
the various collection platforms that we have. Is there a
sense from the the narco terrorist cartels on the other
side of the border that, oh, there's definitely a new
sheriff in town.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
One percent? You know, there's pressure from the Mexican government,
which is as effective as it can be given the circumstances.
The military to military relationship is producing results, including US
helping target known cartel members both sides of the border,
and it's just really hard now to cross the border
(25:40):
versus the way it was before January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
and so they are not being as successful. We're watching
the reaction from the cartels. We had a really good
intercept in Laredo yesterday of unmanned aerial systems small drones,
if you will, one of those yesterday.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Oh wait, so they're using drones to try to drop
off product drugs.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
We believe this one was counter surveillance. Ah okay, but
it remains to be seen. We're going to try to
exploit that the media that's in there to figure out
exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But but so they're using drones to watch you guys
or your guys at border patrol.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Correct, correct, that's that's they're using them mostly for that,
But there it's not unheard of for them to bring
small packages, I mean fentanyl. You know, the profit margin
on fentanyl is huge in Mexico, and so they use
it for those things as well. But again, giving agents
time and ability, this was something that wouldn't have happened
seven months ago because they were too distracted with the
(26:40):
massive humanity that was coming into the border every twenty
four hours. Now we have the ability when those sensors
go off and when we can deploy against those active threats.
They did, in fact Caesar drone in Laredo yesterday, and
that's what the cartel is capable of, and so we'll
see more of that. You know, there was a seizure
in San Diego of about seven thousand pounds of meth
(27:02):
aanthetamine in California, which you know, we haven't seen a
seizure in that size in probably over a year, and
it was because the agents on the ground, the front line,
has the time and ability to do the work, you know,
using the shoe leather, using their brains, using the intelligence
holdings that exist in the United States to track that
(27:24):
seven thousand pounds. We probably would not have gotten that
pre Trump because we're just too busy with the legal
activity that was coming across the border. So yeah, the
cartels have reacted. We're seeing increases on the coast near
San Diego. We expect that to be the case in
near Brownsville as well. The subterranean threat has now been
(27:47):
magnified in the sense that the land border is much
harder to cross, and so all the alternative routes of
entry are going to start to be used and exploited,
and so we need to be vigilant. That's why we
need to backstop what the frontline can do with policy
and rhetoric and consequences. With more resources, as in wall,
(28:09):
as in infrastructure, as in boots on the ground, that
all has to be fortified and sustained if we want
to keep the promise of making America safe again.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Wondering if you could just speak to the morale of
the men and women of Border Patrol now and what
it feels like to have the mission and resources squared
away like they have been so far in this administration.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, No, the morale is very high. Lots of smiles
on the faces of the men and women who now
have the tools and the support that they require to
be successful. Agents are recruited because they are interested in
a career that it's mostly outdoors that mostly protects the country,
that mostly is involved in activity designed to protect us all.
(28:57):
And they weren't able to do that for the last
for the for the last administration, for the entirety of
Biden administration. They are back in business. The nonsense is over.
They have support all the way to the Oval office.
You have the Secretary Noome out there visiting face to
face with the front line, asking them what they need,
ensuring they have those tools, and watching them be successful.
(29:19):
And it's not just the incumbent agents, but it's also
recruitment is off the charts, doubled since before Trump, and
so yeah, it's all going in that right direction as
it relates to them being successful, which is why most
of them are there. That's why they take the oath
because they want to protect us all and now they
have an opportunity to succeed as well.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Ron Vitzilo, advisor to CBP, Thanks for the good work.
So appreciate you being.
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I have a Supreme Court decision that I think is
very interesting that I will break down for you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We just spoke to an advisor to a CBP.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, Ice made the most immigrant arrests illegal immigrant
arrests in a single day Tuesday of this week, twenty
two hundred people in one day. They're ramping up. They
are ramping up, and that is certainly good to see.
On the bad side of things, a Colorado federal judge,
(33:38):
a Biden appointee, of course, has issued an order blocking
the Trump administration from deporting the wife and five children
of the terrorist in Boulder Mohammed Suliman. So there's a
judge who thinks that he's president. It seems this is
really bad stuff for the country. You have these judges
(34:01):
who really believe that they or act like they believe
that they call the shots for the executive branch. They
have power over foreign policy, they have.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Power over everything.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
They can just tell the president you can't do that,
no constitutional anything for Nope, you just can't do that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I say, you can't do that. So you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Hundreds of lower court judges and any one of them
can just bind the commander in chief's hands.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
On a whim.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And also, as we see they keep a lot of
them are overturned by the Supreme Court when they eventually
make their way up there. So they're overturned and also
very partisan from the get go. But we're supposed to
think that this is okay. Why should we think that this, Well,
it's not, as you know, and we'll continue to follow
this very closely. Now, something else that I think is
(34:53):
worth a bit of our time, and it is how
this this moment is when all of the people who
were part of the Biden lie are running for cover,
are scrambling away from what they did to the country
and trying to cash in on it. As you know,
(35:14):
I saw through the whole Tapper thing all along. This
is somebody who was a nasty defender of all things
Biden cognition during the Biden administration. He's a Democrat activist.
He is a very noxious combination of psychotically thin skinned
Tapper as well as wildly narcissistic and thinks that he
(35:38):
can fool all of us into believing that he did
the crime but should not do the time when it
comes to the Biden cover up, that he is the
guy who should be speaking truth to power. It didn't work.
I think people have seen through this. Yeah, he's selling
a lot of books, but he's sold whatever was left
of his credibility along with it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And that's that's so.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's one case of this, right, one case of a
Democrat propagandist running for the exits, or rather trying to
not switch teams, but just reposition himself for the next
for the next go round with the next administration. And
then you have this Correine Jean Pierre and I remember
(36:23):
when she was the Biden Press secretary. You know, we
would talk about some of the things that she said,
but we really started to I think, lay off on
this show because it felt like, you know, she just
wasn't up for it. And it's different when you're the
president versus being the press secretary. If the president's brain
(36:44):
doesn't work, it's not mean.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I have to say it.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
If the White House Press secretary is just not very
bright and not very capable. I mean, I'm gonna say it,
but you know, I really I don't. I'll tell you
this two things to our credit, but maybe in this
big sometimes a bit of a hindrance. I'm not a
mean guy, and plays not a mean guy. We don't
like being mean to anybody.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
We choose to be as.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Kind as we can be. I think, both of us,
in our own ways. Kindness is different than niceness. I
agree with that. Niceness is I don't want to be offensive,
and I mean, you know nice, eh, Kindness is no.
I want to treat people. I want to treat people
well and whenever possible, be respectful and good faith and
positive in my interactions with my fellow human beings. And
(37:31):
so basically I'm saying like we felt almost felt bad
for Kreean Jean Pierre because she was so in over
her head and it was so obvious, and I didn't
feel like beating up on her on the show was
really Yeah, we had some fun with the suntimes, but
it's very different like Weekend at Bernie's. Biden, he's the
commander in chief. Unacceptable, He's a fraudster, he's a liar.
The whole thing was disgusting. Cree Jean Pierre is somebody
(37:53):
who look, she was a DEI hire in the sense
that she clearly was not up for this job, but
she was. She is a lesbian and she is black,
and that was very exciting. Those characteristics were very exciting
for Democrats to have in a White.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
House Press secretary.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Now, the conservative view on these things and you see
this with you know, you've got different people who could
be or rather are I guess diversity technically within the
Trump administration, whether it's women or you know, Richard Grenell
is gay. I mean, there's these people that are that
have worked for Trump at senior level, and it's just
(38:31):
about are they good at the job. And there's not
this obsession with the either immutable characteristics or the sexual
orientation or anything like this about these individuals. We just
pick people or you know, Trump picks people that he
thinks will be really good, and he puts a He's
put a lot of women, as you've noticed, for example,
(38:51):
in senior positions, and these are some tough ladies, and
they're they're showing their competency day in and day out,
I mean, ever on somebody like a caree. Caroline Levitt
is doing a phenomenal job as White House Press Secretary.
But Karine Jean Pierre just she didn't have it. She
wasn't very good at this. She was not up to
the task. And I actually think that it was clear
(39:15):
to a lot of people that that was the case,
and so she did not get very much heat from
the media. Yes, because she was Home Team, I understand.
And yes, she's a black lesbian and therefore is in
the world of identity politics double protected. As the left
views this right, if you're a conservative, if you're on
(39:36):
the right, you just view people as people and you
treat them as people and you expect, you know, you
hold everyone to the same framework of are you good
at this, are you bad at this? Are you doing
your job or you're not doing your job. That's that
is the right conservative point of view. The liberal point
of view is, well, we're gonna pick people for different things,
and this goes to a Supreme Court case.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm gonna talking about a second here, but the.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Left wing point of view, the democrat point of view,
we're gonna pick people and we're gonna tell you they're
just as good as anybody else, and they're not picked
for these reasons, but we're also going to praise them
for being these different things. So there's a cognitive dissonance here,
right Like this has always been the problem with the
firmative action, always been the problem with the EI. You
can't say we need to give an advantage to people
(40:21):
because of skin color, sexual orientation, whatever. But you can't
think that we're giving anybody an advantage because of those things.
This is the fundamental and the fundamental disconnect. This is
the cognitive dissonance. And then they do this thing of oh,
but it's just a little bit, it's just a little
bit of a help, because when you start to corner
(40:41):
them on these issues, you find out that this doesn't
it can't hold up, This doesn't make sense. You can't
ask somebody, you can't say I'm picking this person because
of a And then you're not allowed to say I'm
picking this person because of a you can't. You can't
do that. That does not compute. You're asking us to
(41:03):
believe it up is down, and or you're rather demanding
that we believe it up is down. So that's what
we saw with greenhow Perre here and now she is
putting out a book called Independent.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Here she is announcing it.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
So she's leaving the Democrat Party. She's not just talking
about the Biden administrate.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
She's leaving the Democrat Party. This is cut too.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
This is how she described the broken White House on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and
think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan.
And the way that I see moving forward in this
space that we're in right now is if you are
willing to stand side by side with me, regardless of
your political how you identify politically, and as long as
(41:53):
you respect the community that I belong to and vulnerable
communities that I respect, I.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Will be with you.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
I will be I will move forward with you. And
that is I think so important.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Hm hmm. What happened to the Democrat Party?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Why is she leaving the Democrat Party?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
She was the chief spokeswoman for the Biden regime, and
now she's an independent. Now she's talking about how she's
It makes no sense. It makes no sense. Uh. But
what's interesting to me now is this is completely predictable.
(42:36):
Now there are Democrats sources that are trashing her all
over the place. Oh, she wasn't up for it. She
wouldn't let Kirby. Remember Kirby, you know, the white guy
from the Pentagon. Uh, you know, he was gonna do
briefings on national security. But she wouldn't let him because
he's so much smarter than she is and it made
her insecure, so he wasn't allowed to it. And now
everyone's talking about this. I'm sorry when you propagate the
(43:01):
lie because it is worth it for you to do
so you don't get to turn around and pretend you're
a hero when it doesn't matter anymore. And this is
really the whole situation of what's going on now with
some of these going with whether it's Tapper, Green, John Pierre,
there's gonna be others too. Now all of a sudden,
you know, they're trying to tell you that they've had
(43:22):
this big change of heart. They see what's going on.
Why won't they say, why won't they reach out to
people like me, for example, and say you were right?
I don't just mean me, but you know people on
the right in general. Why don't they just say they
were right? And I should really think about why they
were right? And I should think about why I lied publicly,
speaking from the Democrat perspective, why they lied about things
(43:46):
when they just had to know everything they were saying
was nonsense. And what does that say about their character?
What does that say about their their integrity? I mean,
it means they have no integrity, and they have no
integrity at all. Here you go, who cares? Congressional Dems
say good riddance to Karine Jean Pierre. This is from Axios.
(44:10):
Democrat lawmakers say, who cares?
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Her explanation for this move is as confusing and disjointed
as her answers in the White House press briefing. Democrats
are trashing her now and basically saying she's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
That's what they're saying. She never was up for it,
never could do it.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
So they put a black lesbian in this role.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Tell Us it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Tell Us they didn't do it though, because she's a
black lesbian. They say they just did it because she's
so good at the job. And we say, but she's
not good at the job, and they say, how dare
you she's good at the job. And now that the
whole thing has fallen apart, the administration's done, they lost.
It's Oh no, she was an idiot all along, and
(44:54):
the only reason she had the job was because she's
a black lesbian. And Democrats are obsessed with the EI.
That is what democrats are saying now. So everything that
we tell you on this show about what's going on,
you'll notice true. The things that we say, we just
keep getting more affirmation of. And we said it all along.
The other side has to keep trying to find ways
(45:16):
to explain to their audience, to their voters why they
lie and why they're wrong about everything. You could say
this is a trend, you could say this is an
indicator of something. And now I'm gonna come back and
speak about the Supreme Court decision that just came down.
It turns out you can't discriminate. You can't say I'm
firing you and hiring a lesbian because she's a lesbian.
(45:40):
This is a real case. This just happened that this
is wrong. Of course it's wrong. It's always been wrong.
But it was also always wrong to hire somebody because
they were a black lesbian or a lesbian or an
eskimo or whatever. It's always been wrong to do that.
It was never okay to do this thing that was
done for a long time. And now the courts agree
with me. Now you know, if any of you out
(46:02):
there are fired, so they can hire a minority or
a trans individual or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
You can sue because it's wrong. Let's talk about this.
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bit of trouble in paradise here in Maga world.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I don't want to ignore this.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Like I said, it's like watching my family members picker
or something. I'm like, guys, guys, come on, come on,
you know, I don't like it. I don't like it.
I don't like it. Trump and Elon there's a bit
of a little bit of uh, you know, static, call
it static. I think they'll smooth this thing over. But look,
Elon's not working in the administration anymore, so it doesn't
(47:42):
really matter. Him going back to well, it matters, but
it's not a big deal. Him going back to running Tesla,
which is a company that I very much believe in,
thinks is incredible, and SpaceX and X the platform, and
Elon has done a lot, a lot for the country,
a lot for MAGA, and Doge has been I think
(48:04):
eye opening in a way that we really needed to see.
All of that said, it is a little bit frustrating
here to see Trump and Elon having a bit of
a spat over what's going on here with this spending bill.
Trump is now saying that Elon, hold on a second,
(48:26):
make sure I get this right. Elon has Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
President Trump appeared to oh wait, we actually have some sound, guys.
Can you play the This is from the Oval office.
Trump talked about the situation with Elon. I don't know
what the number is on this one, but you can
pull up the clip we had it before. Let's hear
what Trump is saying about the Elon relationship.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Play it.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know
what will anymore. I was surprised because you were here.
Everybody in this room practically was here. As we had
a wonderful send off, he said, wonderful thing about me.
You couldn't have nicer said that testinat he's worn the hat.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Trump was right.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
About everything, and I am right about.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
The great big beautiful bill.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
We call it a great big beautiful bill because that's
what it is and uh again, biggest tax cuts in history,
biggest economic development moves anywhere, We've never done anything like it.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Saying they may not have a great relationship going for well, look,
one thing about Trump you have to remember, and you
know this, and I know this, is that you know
he's not an opponent you want to have.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
It's not going to go well for you.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
But he also always keeps the keeps the tent flap
open for you to come back and you know, be
back on the team. He has a real he has
really a remarkable willingness to bring people back into the
fold who want to want to be part of the
agenda and want to move the country in this in
the same direction a lot of Look, I want a
(49:59):
great example of this.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
It's Mark Rubio. I mean Marco Rubio and Trump.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Went at each other in that primary in twenty sixteen.
You remember, you know, talking about like little hands and stuff,
and you know, Marco decided he was gonna play a
little rough with Trump, and Trump could play a lot rougher.
And we all remember what happened. We all remember what happened.
And now Mark Rubio is Trump's a plus Secretary of State.
(50:24):
Total confidence in going both ways there, and he's doing
great stuff for the administration, and you know, Mark Rubio
is just getting it done, and Trump knows it, and
he's and he is dialed in, he is locked in,
and a lot of people are saying Rubio kind of
gets the most Improved, most Improved award on the Republican
side of things. And he's doing great stuff and the
(50:45):
Secretary of State deserves a lot of credit for that.
We'll have him on the show hopefully sometime soon. We'll
talk to him about it. But yeah, I think it's
exactly exactly the case that Trump will always allow people
to come back in after there's been a public split,
unless they like play really dirty and try to imprison
his family or something, which some lunatics have tried to do.
(51:09):
But I bring this up because this is what Elon
put out on X.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Elon has the richest guy on the planet.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I don't know, are there two guys with bigger and
both very deserved but bigger egos on Earth. I don't
know it would be. I mean, there's delusionally, Cuth Oberman.
I mean, there's people who have huge egos who are
total losers for people who are actually winners with big egos.
Trumpet Elon are high up on the list, right, And
(51:39):
Elon put this out there on X just in the
last about an hour.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Hour and change ago. Without me, this is Elon.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would
control the House, and the Republicans would be fifty one
forty nine in the Senate. And then he added such ingratitude. Okay,
just look, I'm just telling you what's happening here, just
(52:10):
saying that there's a little bit of a thing, a
little bit, a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Speedbump.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
I think it's all gonna be fine. Elon's upset about
this bill. He's a true believer in cutting the government spending.
And I understand what his case is with this. The
problem as I've laid out the problems, but for one,
it's if you tried to do what Elon wants them
to do, you would not have passage of it in Congress.
So what's the what's the way forward?
Speaker 4 (52:40):
Then?
Speaker 1 (52:40):
I don't I don't understand what the way forward is
because you have to get Democrats to go on If
you have to get Democrats to go on board, now
now you got nothing.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Now you're just letting the Democrats call the shots.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
That's crazy. So unless you want to knop the filibuster
on this issue in this moment, and remember, the Democrats
will be very happy to go completely insane the moment
they have fifty one seats in the Senate if the
filibuster is gone, and they may still do that in
the future. And maybe that's the argument that should be
made right now, but that's not the argument that's being made.
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But it's you have the bromance of Trump and Elon
right now. They want a little space. They want a
little space. Trump is out on the golf course, Elon's
going for a walk on the beach. Some sad music
playing in the background. I think they're both probably having
some moments where they think back to, you know, hand
in hand walking down the White House lawn and talking
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about how great Tesla is and the happy music going.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
We're in a different part of the.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Story right now. It's a little sad, but it's gonna
be okay. I'm sure that they will make amends. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I don't think this is some big thing.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Elon is red pilled, Elon knows that Maga is.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
It's it's just.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
A question of whether we want to have a sane
country in a sane government. Democrats are complete lunatics, total lunatics. Honestly,
they're Yeah, there are smart, nice Democrats. I'm friends with
plenty of Democrats. That's not what I'm saying. The Democrat Party, though,
is now run by an ideology that is just deranged.
We see this, whether we're talking about the trans athlete
stuff that they're still sticking to, or don't even really
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know what the Democrats stand for right now because they're
still trying to regain some footing after supporting a dementia
patient for four years that obviously had dementia and they
pretend like he didn't. And now we all have to
sit around saying, well, you knew the whole time. How
can you lecture us on anything? How can Democrats lecture
us on anything when it comes to government or decision
(54:38):
making whatever, When they had Joe Biden as president for
four years and we all knew and they knew, what
grounds do they have to stand on here?
Speaker 2 (54:47):
So I just wanted to I wanted to note that
there's a little bit of a.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Little bit of friction right now in MAGA world with
Trump and Elon and I just I'll say this too,
two alpha dogs like that. This was if I didn't
say it on this show, it's because I didn't want
to rain on the election parade of how great everything
was going.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
But we've all known that.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Eventually this is this was gonna there was gonna be
a little bit of a And when I say a
little bit of a break, I don't mean that they're
gonna hate each other and Elon's gonna go left wing
and Trump's gonna have to throw big haymakers at him
publicly for a long time. But there was a there
was a time limit to how long I think these
two guys could really closely collaborate before it was gonna
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be best for all that Trump goes back to being
president and Elon goes back to running his companies.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
And that is where we are.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
So it's not a big deal. But you know, the
bromance movie here is. Like I said, this is a
little bit of different space. I'm sure give it a
few months, Elon will be at mar A Lago. They'll
be laughing it up and having dinner and everything else.
But Elon's are very intense. I don't know him, but
just I haven't met him, actually, which is kind of
a shame. I'd like to meet him at some point.
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Elon's are very intense, obviously, and believes very much in
the mission that he was taking on a doge. And
when you have that level of intensity, you can become
a little I don't know, monomaniacal is the right word.
You cant a little two laser focus on that one thing.
Trump has got to focus on a lot of things,
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and he does have to deal with what is possible
out there.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
And this is a difference.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Right, Elon is used to being You can be much
closer to a truly, you can be much closer to
a dictator.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
In your day to day affairs, day to day affairs.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
As the CEO and primary shareholder of a company, you
can be much closer to a dictator than you can
as president, with a Congress and a Supreme Court and
three hundred and fifty million people who all have opinions.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Right, It's it's different. It's different. Now.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I know Trump has been CEO of companies too, so
he understands that. But Elon's never been president. And there's
some some nuances here that are in the skill set.
But I'm wondering what you think about this one. If
you I am not surprised by this at all. I
will just say I'm not surprised by this at all.
I was also not surprised at all at the Elon
Ramaswami split that occurred right away. I won't get into
(57:16):
that now. Maybe we'll talk about another time. But I
knew that Elon was like, that was not gonna work.
And I'm just saying that that was and everyone who
knows me and uh, that was my feelings on that
where they know that I that wasn't going to be.
I was on vacation when uh, and overseas, so I
really wasn't online or or getting involved in it. But
(57:39):
that whole h one B visa situation with with Elon
and Ramaswami and and Trump and MAGA and yeah, so anyway,
I want to get back to our agenda here, what's
going on with h with the country and and all
the good things that are happening. But I had to
take note of a little bit of a disturbance in
the force, if you will, with the Trump and it's
(58:00):
gonna it's gonna be fine, though, I'm telling you those
guys It's one of Trump's nicest qualities really just as
a person, is that he's willing to he's willing to
let people see the error of their ways and come
back and bring them back into the fold. And it's fine.
It's a really nice it's a really lovely quality to have.
I will say many people don't have that at all.
(58:21):
Many people hold grudges, and grudges are kind of grudges
are not generally good. Grudges I think usually are toxic
or you know, usually have a toxicity to them. I
didn't get to get into the details of this Supreme
Court decision, but essentially the notion of reverse discrimination has
been flipped on its head here. The Supreme Court had
(58:44):
to the basics of this are a woman was working
for a hold on it's like a juvenile detention facility
or something. She was an administrator. She applied for a
more senior job. They didn't give her that job, and
then they demoted her and she lost out to somebody
who was lesbian, and that she was replaced by somebody
who was gay, and she felt like there was some
dei stuff going on here, and she sued and the
(59:07):
lower courts, the District Court in the Circuit Court. This
is aimes Ames via Ohio Department of Youth Services. And
what the lower courts found was, well, you're a heterosexual female,
so it's not really possible for you to be this
was Yeah, like I said, this was in Ohio. It's
(59:29):
not really possible for you to be discriminated against. And
they said that she failed to clear the bar applied
to members of a majority group in order to be
considered discriminated against under Title seven of the Civil Rights Act.
So there's a higher burden if you're straight than if
you're LGBTQ IA plus because you're still supposed to be protected.
(59:53):
These are protected characteristics.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
You can't discriminate on the basis of sex, can't discriminate
on the basis of skin color, ethnicity.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Right, that's the law.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
But they're saying, well, but it's harder to prove discrimination
if you're white, or it's harder to prove discrimination if
you're straight. And by a unanimous decision written by written
by Justice Jackson Catangie Brown Jackson that the standard is
(01:00:25):
the standard, and discrimination is discrimination. And so you fire somebody,
or you demote somebody or whatever, and it's provable that
you did it. So you could hire someone who's gay,
or you could hire somebody who's you know, an Eskimo
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's wrong. No more reverse discrimination. It's just discrimination.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
We're either protected and you can't hurt anyone based upon
things they can't change, which is obviously what is ethical
and what the law should be, or we got a problem.
The Left hates this, of course, because this is a
huge challenge to the DEI regime. This is a huge
challenge to the racial spoils system and the gender identity
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. We were talking the last hour a
bit about some of the big things Trump is discussing
or was discussing in the Oval office. I want to
bring you some of those highlights. We've got stuff about
restricting foreign foreigners from going to US colleges and universities.
(00:22):
We've got the foreign nationals from high risk countries that
are banned travel band, if you will, Lisa're not calling
them a Muslim band this time, because Cuba and Venezuela
not necessarily thought of, as you know, the Islamic world
have been some of the countries that are on there. Clearly,
it's not that I remember the first Trump administration they're
as saying it's a Muslim bands, and then they had
(00:44):
to add like North Korea onto it. They said, look,
these are just countries that are messed up. It wasn't
Trump's fault. There are a lot of messed up countries
that are Muslim majority. And then there's also some stuff
on the call with she and and Trump's relationship with Elon.
This is hitting a little bit of a speed bump.
You could say, the the self driving of the Trump
(01:07):
Elon relationship is having a couple.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Of bugs in the system. We'll talk about this.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
It is not a surprise to.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Me that this is where things are right now.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But I I you know, wait, I'm just gonna say this.
When Trump and Elon, when I see there's a little
static with Trump and Elon, it's like watching my parents fight.
I'm like, no, come on, you guys are the good guys.
No fighting, It'll be it'll be fine, it'll be fine.
But my parents like never fought, so that was very nice.
But you know what I'm saying, let's see here we
(01:39):
have I saw other.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
People's parents fights. I'd be like, oh, that's not fun.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Uh, let's do, dude, do first. The Trump call with Elon,
this is this is a big deal because all the
tariff stuff with all these other countries, we all know
that can get negotiated. I think we're quite clear that
EU stuff, Canada stuff Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know we love Canada.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know Trump gives you some Trump gives you a
hard time a little bit, but you know we love
you Canada. China is a problem.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a different that's a different thing. Right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
The China is an issue for the United States, and
he's doing bad things, particularly on trade, and it's taking
a lot of our trade secrets and exploiting I think
the good faith of the American capitalist mindset and system,
and so we got to take.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
A different approach with them.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Here. This was Trump just now in the Oval Office.
He had a chat with a president Shi Jinping of China,
and here is what he had to say about it,
Play twenty five.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
We did a very good talk and we've straightened out
any complexity. This is very complex stuff and we straightened
it out. The agreement was we're going to have Scott
and Howard and Jamison will be going and meeting with
their top people and continued forward. But no, I think
(03:06):
we have everything. I think we're very good shape with
China and the trade deal. We have a deal with China,
as you know, but we were straightening out some of
the points.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Having to do mostly with rare earth magnets and some
other things. So it's produced trade tarif rates. They remain
in effect. We have the deal.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I mean, we've had a deal, we announced the deal
and will be I guess you could say I wouldn't
even say finalizing an up Scott. I would say we
have a deal, and we're going to just make sure
that everybody understands what the deal is.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
We have a deal, and he wants to get more
clarity on the deal. You know, what's one big difference
between this Trump administration that you're already seeing and the
Biden administration. Stuff actually happens with this Trump administration. There
are things in motion that are to the benefit of
(04:01):
the American people. Think about so much of what was
going on with Biden. What was the Biden What was
Biden's trade policy? What was Biden's China policy? Biden didn't
know that much is clear. So if the guy who
is named for the policy isn't even aware of the policy,
and we all understand why, it's pretty clear that there
(04:23):
would have been some gaps. You could say there would
have been some shortcomings in Biden China trade relations and
dealing with them in the economy. I mean, I'm sure
think about this. If you were putin and well, you
can't be putin and Chesion Ping, I mean, that would
be interesting, right, But if you were Vladimir Putin. This
(04:46):
is one of the problems I have now when I
do radio, is that Ginger the baby Ginger's very good
with the baby, so that's good news. But Ginger is
more attention starved than she's ever been. So now she
used to always leave me alone during radio. Now she
run over to me, and because she has free reign
of the house, of course, because she's spoiled, and she
drops her fetch ball at my feet during radio. So
(05:09):
if it ever sounds like I'm like, wait, what's going on,
it's because the dog and she she holds me hostage
because if I don't play fetch at least in the
commercial breaks, then she starts to whine, and you'll hear
all across the country they'll hear my little Australian labradoudal whining.
But you know, such such as last and it's I'm
telling you, because the little baby gets so much attention.
She's more than ever now. She's she makes these little
(05:31):
noises and stuff. Anyway, she loves the baby though. She's
very sweet to the baby. So at least I'm very
grateful for that. All right, So Trump and and Xi
Jinping are squaring off against each other on this trade issue.
And let's just take a moment to recognize if you
were Ji in paying or you were Vladimir Putin or
really any world leader, because we all operate. You and
(05:52):
I operate in the real world, which is other countries,
whether it's China or France, or the UK or Guatemala.
Other countries want to get the best they can for
their people when they interact with us, and you know what,
that's fine. That's how we would expect it to be.
This is why Trump's America first. The notion of a
(06:15):
government representing the American people that privileges and prioritizes the
interests of the American people over non Americans should be
the basic approach of any administration. But actually Trump, it's
revolutionary because we've gone through so many iterations of well,
(06:36):
what do the Europeans think? Well, what the you know
what is like the Human Rights Counsel or to the
Hague or whatever, the u N what do they think
about this? I don't care. I frankly don't care what
the UN thinks about anything. So if you were though,
picking who to sit across the table from you as
an adversary, uh, which means and I mean that by
(06:58):
any country that's trying to get more from us, could
you have done better than Joe Biden or Anthony Blincoln.
Anthony Blincoln, really to think about the people who were
We're gonna talk more about Karina Jean Pierre later. I
know she was just a spokesperson really, but think about
those who were supposed to be making the key decisions
(07:20):
around Biden. You wouldn't want any of these people to
work for you at your company. You wouldn't want any
of them as colleagues. They're not dependable, they're not wise,
they're not impressive. Not stuff matters. It matters with world.
You know, either either who the president is makes a
difference in foreign policy or it doesn't. And if it
(07:40):
does make a difference, clearly we were at a huge
disadvantage with Biden as the President of the United States,
and we are seeing something very different now with Trump.
We're seeing something that we should have had all along,
which is somebody who can actually process Nego Sheate, has
(08:00):
a strategy, understands the interpersonal dynamics of power.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Biden's just a graft machine. Biden's an imbecile. And I
said it all along, You knew it. I knew it
all right now.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
On the restricting foreign nationals from these high risk countries,
Trump spoke about this as well in the oval with
the Chancellor, not the Prime Minister, but the Chancellor of
Germany twenty six Play it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Please on your.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
New travel band?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Why now?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And if the Boulder attack was part of your reasoning,
why not include Egypt on that list where the suspect
is front well?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Because Egypt has been a country that we deal with
very closely. They have things under control. The countries that
we have but don't have things under control.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And why now?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I can say that it can't come soon enough. Frankly,
we want to keep bad people out of our country.
The Biden administration allowed some horrend this people and we're
getting them out one by one and we're not stopping
until we get them out. We have thousands of murderers.
I even hate to say this in front of the
Chancellor because you have a little problem too with some
(09:12):
of the people that were allowed to country.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
It's not your fault, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Not your fault. It shouldn't have happened. I told her
it shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
What she did, her meaning Angela Angler, was like Donald,
but we have to take all of this Third World,
from the warton, the war torn countries into America Achtung
I'm sorry, into Germany, but into Germany Achtung deutz Land
not good, not good, Angela not helping anybody out and
(09:42):
well helping I guess the people that are now exploiting
their access to German welfare and the German system. Isn't
it also remarkable how many of these people come to countries,
whether it's in Europe or it's in America, and they
and they have complaints, they want to complain, and we're
never allowed to look at them and say, why does
your country suck so much? I'm just wondering, like you know,
(10:03):
oh well, I'm not just talking about countries that have
a war, but it's also worth noting why are these
countries that having civil wars or having these problems. Usually
it's sectarian hatreds, so they hate the people that live
within their country, never mind how they're going to get
along with all the rest of us. But yeah, we
never get to ask that question. I just think that
there should be Again, this is one of the reasons.
(10:24):
And I say this, and it's not just because I
love getting high fives from my South Florida Latinos and
Latinas who listen to this show.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
But it's really true.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
My South Florida, Latinos and Latinas or a lot of them,
Cuban Americans, Venezuelan Americans, they freaking love.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This place and they appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
And they're also a voting Republican as they have for
a lot of humans have for a long time, and
more and more Venezuelans are. They appreciate this place. They
come here and they say, Wow, America is awesome. The
communist hellhole I left is a warning to the rest
of the world.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
This is why they're so great.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
When you get these people who show up from some
other country, they come in illegally. They're being told by
the NGO, you know, America did your people wrong, and
you know you should get all of the welfare you want.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And you should. That's not good. That's not good.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Anybody who comes to this country should be thrilled to
be in this country and should be working on their
americanness from day one. And we see what happens in
Europe and that's not the case. When I say working
on their americanness, you know, becoming productive, law abiding English
speaking members of their community, their society and all of that.
(11:47):
And that's that should be the expectation in Europe. It
was like self hatred on display. We'll never forget. I
was talking to the equivalent of the Swedish kind of
like the Swedish FBI.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I forget what they Braduh.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I was there years ago at the CIA, and we're
helping them with some terrorism issues.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh why did Sweden have terrorism issues?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Anyone want to guess? Anyone want to take a stab
at that one? You know, was spent all off all
of a sudden, so upset about uh the state benefits
for his free health care or whatever.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, He's like, no, No.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
They brought in a bunch of Middle Eastern Muslims from
war charned countries who guess what, hate the West, that
hate Europe and started doing really bad things. Started going
back and forth also between the country that they say
they had to flee for their lives and the country
that had taken them in. They arrive in many cases
in these countries and they think that we are suckers.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
They are taking us for a ride.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
And you see this with some of the e moms,
for example, who have been very much on the radar
of m I five in the UK, which is their
domestic intelligence service and trying to expel some of the
some of them are so bad. We're like, look, you
got to go back to wherever you came from. That's
actually happened in Europe in some cases, but in Sweden.
I remember talking to him. I said, you guys have
brought in a million Middle Eastern refugees. What do you
(13:09):
think is going to happen with this? And they because
these weren't politicians, these are people that were dealing with
the counter terrorism.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Side, we have a big problem. We have a big challenge.
And he didn't just mean stopping terrorism attacks.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He meant they move into neighborhoods outside of some of
the major cities. They don't they don't want to learn
the language, they don't want to adopt the culture, they
want to set up Sharia courts.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
They want it their own.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Way, and they want to be able to advocate for
the slow but certain overthrow of the culture and the
rule of law and the.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Nation that they have come to imagine that.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You know, it's like it's like I said before, these
when you're talking about people that are coming from these countries,
and you know, we saw this with the Boulder attack.
This guy's commas here. He says he wants asylum. He's
got a he's got a wife and children. They're here now.
And and he goes and he lights Jews on fire.
(14:09):
He creates a flamethrower and malots off cocktails. He's trying
to light Jewish people, Jewish Americans on fire, instead of
thinking about how lucky and grateful he is to be
in America.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's what he does.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
This is this is as I was saying, somebody running
up to you says, I'm I'm there's there's a tornado coming.
Please take me into your house or else I'm going
to die, and you, out of the kindness of your heart,
say yes, sure, here, come into my cellar with me
and my family. And then as the tornado passes, they
look at you and they go, it's my house. Now,
(14:45):
that's happening. That has happened, and it is time we
woke up to this and said enough, no more of that,
Thank you very much. I'm glad to see the Trump
administration recognizes that we don't have to take people in
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Speaker 2 (16:33):
Thanks for making the time for us. Let's just start
with this.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
How is it that Trump is able to secure the
southern border almost at a one hundred percent level. I mean,
it's in the ninety something percent drop so quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
How do you do it?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Leadership matters. He's got a good team in place, with
the likes of Secretary Nome, and there are now consequences
unlike anything I've ever seen on the Southwest border. So
rhetoric that says we're going to do this, the American
people gave him that mandate action by the front line,
you know, directed by the leadership, and actual consequences to
(17:12):
the event of crossing the border illegally are now in
place in a way. Like I've said, Like you know,
I've been in and out of this business for forty
years and I've never seen anything like it. It was
so rapid the change at the Southwest border. It even
surprised me.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
But so I think this would be really interesting, Ron,
if I could just ask you, because I had seen,
unfortunately in the bad old days of the wide open border,
what happens. People would would walk up to border patrol.
I mean they would walk across where there wasn't a
wall or there wasn't barrier, which there's a lot of
places where that's still the case. They'd walk up and
they would wave border patrol down. They would say here
(17:48):
I am, and sometimes through a translator, or sometimes they
would say it in English some version of I have
a credible fear of violence in my country. And they
would be processed and let into America, sometimes with a
like a ticket to a peer, and show up somewhere
in the system later on. I mean, the whole thing
was just a joke. What happens now if you show
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up and you just want to come into America illegally.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Well, it's a high likelihood that when you're arrested, even
if you gave up or if you were trying to evade,
there's a lot of that's still going on. You're taking
into custody like before, you're put into the system like before,
and then you referred for prosecution the acceptance right from
the US Attorney's office all across the southwest border and
the northern border in some places as well as over
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ninety percent. And so I'll just give you an example
of what that means. When I was a second line
supervisor in Nogallas, Arizona, we could not present a smuggling case,
a criminal felony smuggling case to the US Attorney's office
unless there were fifteen smuggled aliens in the vehicle that
we were trying to prosecute the smuggler for driving. Right now,
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they're taking first time entrants who enter the border illegally
as a case. It's dramatically different than it's ever been.
And so the high likelihood is that after your process
and put into the system, you're going to be referred
and then accepted for prosecution and you'll have to see
a judge for the crime committed crossing the border illegally
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when that process is over. And that was individuals sentenced,
regardless of what country they're from, they're sent back very rapidly.
The average time and custody for folks that are in
iced attention is very very low, low, lower than it's
been in a long time, and so people are being
removed from the US all over the world and very
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short order.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And also I'm seeing a lot of confusion ron from
some parts of the media, maybe confusion, surprise, astonishment that
there's such a drop in sentinel at the border that's
crossing what's going on there, Because I think I think
our audience, I think everybody right now, they listen, they go, oh,
(20:01):
I think I know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah, of course they know that this has been a
problem for many, many years. The President engaged worldwide, specifically
in Canada and Mexico, the threat of terraces tariffs, just
to make sure that they weren't allowing precursors to come
into the country from China, and that they had to
(20:25):
do more on the border, on the physical border, to
protect that border. And so both of those countries engaged
again in ways I've never seen. Right, ten thousand troops
from the Mexican National Guard deployed on their northern border,
our southern border. Canada has done more to protect their
physical border than I've ever seen. Helicopters, night vision equipment,
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dedicated patrols from state, local, provincial, and the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police, and so everybody is doing their part to
help protect those borders the sovereignty of each of their countries,
thereby giving us a better chance at the physical border
to find this stuff, and then the cartels know that
it's just not a walk in the park as it
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was for the four years of the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's that's remarkable. I just to make sure that everyone
is is clear on this one. What you're telling me
is that on tariffs alone, there has been a big
victory for the border, so that the tool of tariff
negotiations to get us border security that's already a win,
is what I'm gathering from what you're saying. Especially with
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you know, or rather with Mexico and Canada, there.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Is no question that Canada and Mexico are doing more
than they have ever done in the history of the
relationships of these three countries than they are doing right
now today. And recognize, you know, Canada put together legislation
to spend millions of dollars on their border to help
us to help identify the threats that are there. They
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now have a fent are, which they didn't have before
January twentieth, twenty twenty five, ten thousand troops on the
Mexican border. And you'll remember the rhetoric when Trump got elected,
Claudia Scheinbaum the president in Mexico, all due respect, she
was saying terrible things about how she wasn't going to work,
she wasn't going to do the bidding of the United
States or this president. She deployed ten thousand troops. No
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one has ever done that before her or since, and
so that has led to a huge reduction in illegal
activity across the Southwest border, including fentanyl precursors into their
country and then fentanyl across our border.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We're talking to Ron Vitello, US Customs and Border Protection
senior advisor for this administration. Bron, let's talk about big
beautiful wall, major promise from Trump in the first term.
He has returned to this issue now in his second term.
I know that one of the ways that Steven Miller
and others are really trying to get people focused in
(22:55):
on the need to pass this big beautiful bill is
saying that there's ample fund for border patrol, including for
wall barrier actually securing it. What can you tell us
about that and the status of the wall right now?
How long would it take if we had the funding
to get a lot more of it in place.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Let's do a little wall.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Deep dive well to get the requirement that's identified by
the border patrols, supported by the president. Right, he built
a lot of wall in the first term Trump won,
and we expect to build a lot more in Trump two.
And so what we're doing now, with the help of
the Department of Defense, we have ten thousand of our
own troops on the southwest border helping the border patrol
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side by side. Part of what they're doing is giving
agents better access to the border, fortifying the wall, and
increasing the infrastructure that prevents people from entering at the border.
About one hundred new miles of barrier placed either by
DoD or buy the border patrol itself with the existing
contracting and the funding left over from Trump ion. So
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Biden comes in puts a moratorium on all border construction,
and so it froze the activity for a while. And
now we're in the we have the ability for the
next year or so to spend the little money that's
left from Trump one on wall, and that's equated so
far to about one hundred miles, and then there'll be
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new wall constructed using the funds from Trump one, and
then we're hopeful that when the reconciliation passes, there will
be a huge investment in infrastructure, including wall and tech
that supports the wall and the agents on the ground
access to the border, to give us about another one
hundred about another seven hundred miles. Some of that will
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be dual barrier. We'll have some stuff in the river
and on land in places like Texas where the river
is actually the border, and in other places will fortify
what exists and increase wall to about seven hundred new
miles under Trump two.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Is there are s and I know from just law
enforcements sources down along the border, border patrol sources and
the various collection platforms that we have. Is there a
sense from the the narco terrorist cartels on the other
side of the border that, oh, there's definitely a new
sheriff in town.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
One percent? You know, there's pressure from the Mexican government,
which is as effective as it can be given the circumstances.
The military to military relationship is producing results, including US
helping target known cartel members both sides of the border,
and it's just really hard now to cross the border
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versus the way it was before January twentieth, twenty twenty five,
and so they are not being as successful. We're watching
the reaction from the cartels. We had a really good
intercept in Laredo yesterday of unmanned aerial systems small drones,
if you will, one of those yesterday.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Oh wait, so they're using drones to try to drop
off product drugs.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
We believe this one was counter surveillance. Ah okay, but
it remains to be seen. We're going to try to
exploit that the media that's in there to figure out
exactly what it was.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But but so they're using drones to watch you guys
or your guys at border patrol.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Correct, correct, that's that's they're using them mostly for that,
But there it's not unheard of for them to bring
small packages, I mean fentanyl. You know, the profit margin
on fentanyl is huge in Mexico, and so they use
it for those things as well. But again, giving agents
time and ability, this was something that wouldn't have happened
seven months ago because they were too distracted with the
(26:40):
massive humanity that was coming into the border every twenty
four hours. Now we have the ability when those sensors
go off and when we can deploy against those active threats.
They did, in fact Caesar drone in Laredo yesterday, and
that's what the cartel is capable of, and so we'll
see more of that. You know, there was a seizure
in San Diego of about seven thousand pounds of meth
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aanthetamine in California, which you know, we haven't seen a
seizure in that size in probably over a year, and
it was because the agents on the ground, the front line,
has the time and ability to do the work, you know,
using the shoe leather, using their brains, using the intelligence
holdings that exist in the United States to track that
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seven thousand pounds. We probably would not have gotten that
pre Trump because we're just too busy with the legal
activity that was coming across the border. So yeah, the
cartels have reacted. We're seeing increases on the coast near
San Diego. We expect that to be the case in
near Brownsville as well. The subterranean threat has now been
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magnified in the sense that the land border is much
harder to cross, and so all the alternative routes of
entry are going to start to be used and exploited,
and so we need to be vigilant. That's why we
need to backstop what the frontline can do with policy
and rhetoric and consequences. With more resources, as in wall,
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as in infrastructure, as in boots on the ground, that
all has to be fortified and sustained if we want
to keep the promise of making America safe again.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Wondering if you could just speak to the morale of
the men and women of Border Patrol now and what
it feels like to have the mission and resources squared
away like they have been so far in this administration.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Yeah, No, the morale is very high. Lots of smiles
on the faces of the men and women who now
have the tools and the support that they require to
be successful. Agents are recruited because they are interested in
a career that it's mostly outdoors that mostly protects the country,
that mostly is involved in activity designed to protect us all.
(28:57):
And they weren't able to do that for the last
for the for the last administration, for the entirety of
Biden administration. They are back in business. The nonsense is over.
They have support all the way to the Oval office.
You have the Secretary Noome out there visiting face to
face with the front line, asking them what they need,
ensuring they have those tools, and watching them be successful.
(29:19):
And it's not just the incumbent agents, but it's also
recruitment is off the charts, doubled since before Trump, and
so yeah, it's all going in that right direction as
it relates to them being successful, which is why most
of them are there. That's why they take the oath
because they want to protect us all and now they
have an opportunity to succeed as well.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Ron Vitzilo, advisor to CBP, Thanks for the good work.
So appreciate you being.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Here, Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
You consider yourself pro life like I am. Here's a
wake up call. Despite the overturning of Roe v. Wade
a few years ago, the number of abortions increased this
past year.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's a tragedy.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
The lives of more than a million babies were lost
last year to abortion, and there's no way this is
going to just stop on its own. We have to
step up. We the pro life community have to give
women the support, the love, and the clarity that they
need for life. And that's where preborn comes in. Preborn's
clinics are located in areas around the country with the
(30:23):
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in the womb, day in and day out.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Just imagine.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I was at a Preborn clinic here in Miami, and
I got to meet a little three year old girl
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and also helping more and more moms to be just
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the Big Beautiful Bill from back and forth on that one.
I have a Supreme Court decision that I think is
very interesting that I will break down for you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We just spoke to an advisor to a CBP.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You know, Ice made the most immigrant arrests illegal immigrant
arrests in a single day Tuesday of this week, twenty
two hundred people in one day. They're ramping up. They
are ramping up, and that is certainly good to see.
On the bad side of things, a Colorado federal judge,
(33:38):
a Biden appointee, of course, has issued an order blocking
the Trump administration from deporting the wife and five children
of the terrorist in Boulder Mohammed Suliman. So there's a
judge who thinks that he's president. It seems this is
really bad stuff for the country. You have these judges
(34:01):
who really believe that they or act like they believe
that they call the shots for the executive branch. They
have power over foreign policy, they have.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Power over everything.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
They can just tell the president you can't do that,
no constitutional anything for Nope, you just can't do that.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I say, you can't do that. So you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Hundreds of lower court judges and any one of them
can just bind the commander in chief's hands.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
On a whim.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
And also, as we see they keep a lot of
them are overturned by the Supreme Court when they eventually
make their way up there. So they're overturned and also
very partisan from the get go. But we're supposed to
think that this is okay. Why should we think that this, Well,
it's not, as you know, and we'll continue to follow
this very closely. Now, something else that I think is
(34:53):
worth a bit of our time, and it is how
this this moment is when all of the people who
were part of the Biden lie are running for cover,
are scrambling away from what they did to the country
and trying to cash in on it. As you know,
(35:14):
I saw through the whole Tapper thing all along. This
is somebody who was a nasty defender of all things
Biden cognition during the Biden administration. He's a Democrat activist.
He is a very noxious combination of psychotically thin skinned
Tapper as well as wildly narcissistic and thinks that he
(35:38):
can fool all of us into believing that he did
the crime but should not do the time when it
comes to the Biden cover up, that he is the
guy who should be speaking truth to power. It didn't work.
I think people have seen through this. Yeah, he's selling
a lot of books, but he's sold whatever was left
of his credibility along with it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And that's that's so.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
That's one case of this, right, one case of a
Democrat propagandist running for the exits, or rather trying to
not switch teams, but just reposition himself for the next
for the next go round with the next administration. And
then you have this Correine Jean Pierre and I remember
(36:23):
when she was the Biden Press secretary. You know, we
would talk about some of the things that she said,
but we really started to I think, lay off on
this show because it felt like, you know, she just
wasn't up for it. And it's different when you're the
president versus being the press secretary. If the president's brain
(36:44):
doesn't work, it's not mean.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I have to say it.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
If the White House Press secretary is just not very
bright and not very capable. I mean, I'm gonna say it,
but you know, I really I don't. I'll tell you
this two things to our credit, but maybe in this
big sometimes a bit of a hindrance. I'm not a
mean guy, and plays not a mean guy. We don't
like being mean to anybody.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
We choose to be as.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Kind as we can be. I think, both of us,
in our own ways. Kindness is different than niceness. I
agree with that. Niceness is I don't want to be offensive,
and I mean, you know nice, eh, Kindness is no.
I want to treat people. I want to treat people
well and whenever possible, be respectful and good faith and
positive in my interactions with my fellow human beings. And
(37:31):
so basically I'm saying like we felt almost felt bad
for Kreean Jean Pierre because she was so in over
her head and it was so obvious, and I didn't
feel like beating up on her on the show was
really Yeah, we had some fun with the suntimes, but
it's very different like Weekend at Bernie's. Biden, he's the
commander in chief. Unacceptable, He's a fraudster, he's a liar.
The whole thing was disgusting. Cree Jean Pierre is somebody
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who look, she was a DEI hire in the sense
that she clearly was not up for this job, but
she was. She is a lesbian and she is black,
and that was very exciting. Those characteristics were very exciting
for Democrats to have in a White.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
House Press secretary.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Now, the conservative view on these things and you see
this with you know, you've got different people who could
be or rather are I guess diversity technically within the
Trump administration, whether it's women or you know, Richard Grenell
is gay. I mean, there's these people that are that
have worked for Trump at senior level, and it's just
(38:31):
about are they good at the job. And there's not
this obsession with the either immutable characteristics or the sexual
orientation or anything like this about these individuals. We just
pick people or you know, Trump picks people that he
thinks will be really good, and he puts a He's
put a lot of women, as you've noticed, for example,
(38:51):
in senior positions, and these are some tough ladies, and
they're they're showing their competency day in and day out,
I mean, ever on somebody like a caree. Caroline Levitt
is doing a phenomenal job as White House Press Secretary.
But Karine Jean Pierre just she didn't have it. She
wasn't very good at this. She was not up to
the task. And I actually think that it was clear
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to a lot of people that that was the case,
and so she did not get very much heat from
the media. Yes, because she was Home Team, I understand.
And yes, she's a black lesbian and therefore is in
the world of identity politics double protected. As the left
views this right, if you're a conservative, if you're on
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the right, you just view people as people and you
treat them as people and you expect, you know, you
hold everyone to the same framework of are you good
at this, are you bad at this? Are you doing
your job or you're not doing your job. That's that
is the right conservative point of view. The liberal point
of view is, well, we're gonna pick people for different things,
and this goes to a Supreme Court case.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm gonna talking about a second here, but the.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Left wing point of view, the democrat point of view,
we're gonna pick people and we're gonna tell you they're
just as good as anybody else, and they're not picked
for these reasons, but we're also going to praise them
for being these different things. So there's a cognitive dissonance here,
right Like this has always been the problem with the
firmative action, always been the problem with the EI. You
can't say we need to give an advantage to people
(40:21):
because of skin color, sexual orientation, whatever. But you can't
think that we're giving anybody an advantage because of those things.
This is the fundamental and the fundamental disconnect. This is
the cognitive dissonance. And then they do this thing of oh,
but it's just a little bit, it's just a little
bit of a help, because when you start to corner
(40:41):
them on these issues, you find out that this doesn't
it can't hold up, This doesn't make sense. You can't
ask somebody, you can't say I'm picking this person because
of a And then you're not allowed to say I'm
picking this person because of a you can't. You can't
do that. That does not compute. You're asking us to
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believe it up is down, and or you're rather demanding
that we believe it up is down. So that's what
we saw with greenhow Perre here and now she is
putting out a book called Independent.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Here she is announcing it.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
So she's leaving the Democrat Party. She's not just talking
about the Biden administrate.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
She's leaving the Democrat Party. This is cut too.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
This is how she described the broken White House on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
I think we need to stop thinking in boxes and
think outside of our boxes and not be so partisan.
And the way that I see moving forward in this
space that we're in right now is if you are
willing to stand side by side with me, regardless of
your political how you identify politically, and as long as
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you respect the community that I belong to and vulnerable
communities that I respect, I.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Will be with you.
Speaker 6 (42:01):
I will be I will move forward with you. And
that is I think so important.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Hm hmm. What happened to the Democrat Party?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Why is she leaving the Democrat Party?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
She was the chief spokeswoman for the Biden regime, and
now she's an independent. Now she's talking about how she's
It makes no sense. It makes no sense. Uh. But
what's interesting to me now is this is completely predictable.
(42:36):
Now there are Democrats sources that are trashing her all
over the place. Oh, she wasn't up for it. She
wouldn't let Kirby. Remember Kirby, you know, the white guy
from the Pentagon. Uh, you know, he was gonna do
briefings on national security. But she wouldn't let him because
he's so much smarter than she is and it made
her insecure, so he wasn't allowed to it. And now
everyone's talking about this. I'm sorry when you propagate the
(43:01):
lie because it is worth it for you to do
so you don't get to turn around and pretend you're
a hero when it doesn't matter anymore. And this is
really the whole situation of what's going on now with
some of these going with whether it's Tapper, Green, John Pierre,
there's gonna be others too. Now all of a sudden,
you know, they're trying to tell you that they've had
(43:22):
this big change of heart. They see what's going on.
Why won't they say, why won't they reach out to
people like me, for example, and say you were right?
I don't just mean me, but you know people on
the right in general. Why don't they just say they
were right? And I should really think about why they
were right? And I should think about why I lied publicly,
speaking from the Democrat perspective, why they lied about things
(43:46):
when they just had to know everything they were saying
was nonsense. And what does that say about their character?
What does that say about their their integrity? I mean,
it means they have no integrity, and they have no
integrity at all. Here you go, who cares? Congressional Dems
say good riddance to Karine Jean Pierre. This is from Axios.
(44:10):
Democrat lawmakers say, who cares?
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Her explanation for this move is as confusing and disjointed
as her answers in the White House press briefing. Democrats
are trashing her now and basically saying she's an idiot.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
That's what they're saying. She never was up for it,
never could do it.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
So they put a black lesbian in this role.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Tell Us it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Tell Us they didn't do it though, because she's a
black lesbian. They say they just did it because she's
so good at the job. And we say, but she's
not good at the job, and they say, how dare
you she's good at the job. And now that the
whole thing has fallen apart, the administration's done, they lost.
It's Oh no, she was an idiot all along, and
(44:54):
the only reason she had the job was because she's
a black lesbian. And Democrats are obsessed with the EI.
That is what democrats are saying now. So everything that
we tell you on this show about what's going on,
you'll notice true. The things that we say, we just
keep getting more affirmation of. And we said it all along.
The other side has to keep trying to find ways
(45:16):
to explain to their audience, to their voters why they
lie and why they're wrong about everything. You could say
this is a trend, you could say this is an
indicator of something. And now I'm gonna come back and
speak about the Supreme Court decision that just came down.
It turns out you can't discriminate. You can't say I'm
firing you and hiring a lesbian because she's a lesbian.
(45:40):
This is a real case. This just happened that this
is wrong. Of course it's wrong. It's always been wrong.
But it was also always wrong to hire somebody because
they were a black lesbian or a lesbian or an
eskimo or whatever. It's always been wrong to do that.
It was never okay to do this thing that was
done for a long time. And now the courts agree
with me. Now you know, if any of you out
(46:02):
there are fired, so they can hire a minority or
a trans individual or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
You can sue because it's wrong. Let's talk about this.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Let's come back to this sanity shortly here restoration of sanity.
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bit of trouble in paradise here in Maga world.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I don't want to ignore this.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Like I said, it's like watching my family members picker
or something. I'm like, guys, guys, come on, come on,
you know, I don't like it. I don't like it.
I don't like it. Trump and Elon there's a bit
of a little bit of uh, you know, static, call
it static. I think they'll smooth this thing over. But look,
Elon's not working in the administration anymore, so it doesn't
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really matter. Him going back to well, it matters, but
it's not a big deal. Him going back to running Tesla,
which is a company that I very much believe in,
thinks is incredible, and SpaceX and X the platform, and
Elon has done a lot, a lot for the country,
a lot for MAGA, and Doge has been I think
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eye opening in a way that we really needed to see.
All of that said, it is a little bit frustrating
here to see Trump and Elon having a bit of
a spat over what's going on here with this spending bill.
Trump is now saying that Elon, hold on a second,
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make sure I get this right. Elon has Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
President Trump appeared to oh wait, we actually have some sound, guys.
Can you play the This is from the Oval office.
Trump talked about the situation with Elon. I don't know
what the number is on this one, but you can
pull up the clip we had it before. Let's hear
what Trump is saying about the Elon relationship.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Play it.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know
what will anymore. I was surprised because you were here.
Everybody in this room practically was here. As we had
a wonderful send off, he said, wonderful thing about me.
You couldn't have nicer said that testinat he's worn the hat.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Trump was right.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
About everything, and I am right about.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
The great big beautiful bill.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
We call it a great big beautiful bill because that's
what it is and uh again, biggest tax cuts in history,
biggest economic development moves anywhere, We've never done anything like it.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Saying they may not have a great relationship going for well, look,
one thing about Trump you have to remember, and you
know this, and I know this, is that you know
he's not an opponent you want to have.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
It's not going to go well for you.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
But he also always keeps the keeps the tent flap
open for you to come back and you know, be
back on the team. He has a real he has
really a remarkable willingness to bring people back into the
fold who want to want to be part of the
agenda and want to move the country in this in
the same direction a lot of Look, I want a
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great example of this.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
It's Mark Rubio. I mean Marco Rubio and Trump.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Went at each other in that primary in twenty sixteen.
You remember, you know, talking about like little hands and stuff,
and you know, Marco decided he was gonna play a
little rough with Trump, and Trump could play a lot rougher.
And we all remember what happened. We all remember what happened.
And now Mark Rubio is Trump's a plus Secretary of State.
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Total confidence in going both ways there, and he's doing
great stuff for the administration, and you know, Mark Rubio
is just getting it done, and Trump knows it, and
he's and he is dialed in, he is locked in,
and a lot of people are saying Rubio kind of
gets the most Improved, most Improved award on the Republican
side of things. And he's doing great stuff and the
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Secretary of State deserves a lot of credit for that.
We'll have him on the show hopefully sometime soon. We'll
talk to him about it. But yeah, I think it's
exactly exactly the case that Trump will always allow people
to come back in after there's been a public split,
unless they like play really dirty and try to imprison
his family or something, which some lunatics have tried to do.
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But I bring this up because this is what Elon
put out on X.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Elon has the richest guy on the planet.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
I don't know, are there two guys with bigger and
both very deserved but bigger egos on Earth. I don't
know it would be. I mean, there's delusionally, Cuth Oberman.
I mean, there's people who have huge egos who are
total losers for people who are actually winners with big egos.
Trumpet Elon are high up on the list, right, And
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Elon put this out there on X just in the
last about an hour.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
Hour and change ago. Without me, this is Elon.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would
control the House, and the Republicans would be fifty one
forty nine in the Senate. And then he added such ingratitude. Okay,
just look, I'm just telling you what's happening here, just
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saying that there's a little bit of a thing, a
little bit, a little bit of a.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
Speedbump.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
I think it's all gonna be fine. Elon's upset about
this bill. He's a true believer in cutting the government spending.
And I understand what his case is with this. The
problem as I've laid out the problems, but for one,
it's if you tried to do what Elon wants them
to do, you would not have passage of it in Congress.
So what's the what's the way forward?
Speaker 4 (52:40):
Then?
Speaker 1 (52:40):
I don't I don't understand what the way forward is
because you have to get Democrats to go on If
you have to get Democrats to go on board, now
now you got nothing.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
Now you're just letting the Democrats call the shots.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
That's crazy. So unless you want to knop the filibuster
on this issue in this moment, and remember, the Democrats
will be very happy to go completely insane the moment
they have fifty one seats in the Senate if the
filibuster is gone, and they may still do that in
the future. And maybe that's the argument that should be
made right now, but that's not the argument that's being made.
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But it's you have the bromance of Trump and Elon
right now. They want a little space. They want a
little space. Trump is out on the golf course, Elon's
going for a walk on the beach. Some sad music
playing in the background. I think they're both probably having
some moments where they think back to, you know, hand
in hand walking down the White House lawn and talking
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about how great Tesla is and the happy music going.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
We're in a different part of the.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Story right now. It's a little sad, but it's gonna
be okay. I'm sure that they will make amends. I'm not.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I don't think this is some big thing.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Elon is red pilled, Elon knows that Maga is.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
It's it's just.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
A question of whether we want to have a sane
country in a sane government. Democrats are complete lunatics, total lunatics. Honestly,
they're Yeah, there are smart, nice Democrats. I'm friends with
plenty of Democrats. That's not what I'm saying. The Democrat Party, though,
is now run by an ideology that is just deranged.
We see this, whether we're talking about the trans athlete
stuff that they're still sticking to, or don't even really
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know what the Democrats stand for right now because they're
still trying to regain some footing after supporting a dementia
patient for four years that obviously had dementia and they
pretend like he didn't. And now we all have to
sit around saying, well, you knew the whole time. How
can you lecture us on anything? How can Democrats lecture
us on anything when it comes to government or decision
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making whatever, When they had Joe Biden as president for
four years and we all knew and they knew, what
grounds do they have to stand on here?
Speaker 2 (54:47):
So I just wanted to I wanted to note that
there's a little bit of a.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
Little bit of friction right now in MAGA world with
Trump and Elon and I just I'll say this too,
two alpha dogs like that. This was if I didn't
say it on this show, it's because I didn't want
to rain on the election parade of how great everything
was going.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
But we've all known that.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Eventually this is this was gonna there was gonna be
a little bit of a And when I say a
little bit of a break, I don't mean that they're
gonna hate each other and Elon's gonna go left wing
and Trump's gonna have to throw big haymakers at him
publicly for a long time. But there was a there
was a time limit to how long I think these
two guys could really closely collaborate before it was gonna
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be best for all that Trump goes back to being
president and Elon goes back to running his companies.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
And that is where we are.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
So it's not a big deal. But you know, the
bromance movie here is. Like I said, this is a
little bit of different space. I'm sure give it a
few months, Elon will be at mar A Lago. They'll
be laughing it up and having dinner and everything else.
But Elon's are very intense. I don't know him, but
just I haven't met him, actually, which is kind of
a shame. I'd like to meet him at some point.
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Elon's are very intense, obviously, and believes very much in
the mission that he was taking on a doge. And
when you have that level of intensity, you can become
a little I don't know, monomaniacal is the right word.
You cant a little two laser focus on that one thing.
Trump has got to focus on a lot of things,
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and he does have to deal with what is possible
out there.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
And this is a difference.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
Right, Elon is used to being You can be much
closer to a truly, you can be much closer to
a dictator.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
In your day to day affairs, day to day affairs.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
As the CEO and primary shareholder of a company, you
can be much closer to a dictator than you can
as president, with a Congress and a Supreme Court and
three hundred and fifty million people who all have opinions.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Right, It's it's different. It's different. Now.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I know Trump has been CEO of companies too, so
he understands that. But Elon's never been president. And there's
some some nuances here that are in the skill set.
But I'm wondering what you think about this one. If
you I am not surprised by this at all. I
will just say I'm not surprised by this at all.
I was also not surprised at all at the Elon
Ramaswami split that occurred right away. I won't get into
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that now. Maybe we'll talk about another time. But I
knew that Elon was like, that was not gonna work.
And I'm just saying that that was and everyone who
knows me and uh, that was my feelings on that
where they know that I that wasn't going to be.
I was on vacation when uh, and overseas, so I
really wasn't online or or getting involved in it. But
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that whole h one B visa situation with with Elon
and Ramaswami and and Trump and MAGA and yeah, so anyway,
I want to get back to our agenda here, what's
going on with h with the country and and all
the good things that are happening. But I had to
take note of a little bit of a disturbance in
the force, if you will, with the Trump and it's
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gonna it's gonna be fine, though, I'm telling you those
guys It's one of Trump's nicest qualities really just as
a person, is that he's willing to he's willing to
let people see the error of their ways and come
back and bring them back into the fold. And it's fine.
It's a really nice it's a really lovely quality to have.
I will say many people don't have that at all.
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Many people hold grudges, and grudges are kind of grudges
are not generally good. Grudges I think usually are toxic
or you know, usually have a toxicity to them. I
didn't get to get into the details of this Supreme
Court decision, but essentially the notion of reverse discrimination has
been flipped on its head here. The Supreme Court had
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to the basics of this are a woman was working
for a hold on it's like a juvenile detention facility
or something. She was an administrator. She applied for a
more senior job. They didn't give her that job, and
then they demoted her and she lost out to somebody
who was lesbian, and that she was replaced by somebody
who was gay, and she felt like there was some
dei stuff going on here, and she sued and the
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lower courts, the District Court in the Circuit Court. This
is aimes Ames via Ohio Department of Youth Services. And
what the lower courts found was, well, you're a heterosexual female,
so it's not really possible for you to be this
was Yeah, like I said, this was in Ohio. It's
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not really possible for you to be discriminated against. And
they said that she failed to clear the bar applied
to members of a majority group in order to be
considered discriminated against under Title seven of the Civil Rights Act.
So there's a higher burden if you're straight than if
you're LGBTQ IA plus because you're still supposed to be protected.
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These are protected characteristics.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
You can't discriminate on the basis of sex, can't discriminate
on the basis of skin color, ethnicity.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Right, that's the law.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
But they're saying, well, but it's harder to prove discrimination
if you're white, or it's harder to prove discrimination if
you're straight. And by a unanimous decision written by written
by Justice Jackson Catangie Brown Jackson that the standard is
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the standard, and discrimination is discrimination. And so you fire somebody,
or you demote somebody or whatever, and it's provable that
you did it. So you could hire someone who's gay,
or you could hire somebody who's you know, an Eskimo
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That's wrong. No more reverse discrimination. It's just discrimination.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
We're either protected and you can't hurt anyone based upon
things they can't change, which is obviously what is ethical
and what the law should be, or we got a problem.
The Left hates this, of course, because this is a
huge challenge to the DEI regime. This is a huge
challenge to the racial spoils system and the gender identity
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