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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton
Show from our nation's capital.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Having a great time here.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I got to say, I have been so impressed and
thankful and humbled that Clay and I have seen so
many of you are listeners around DC, and a first yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Someone came up to me who wanted to take a photo.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
And I always all of you, don't ever be shy
about if you ever want to take if you just
want to shake hands or give me a high five.
We love all of you who listen, all right, that
is an ironclad rule. If you listen to this show,
we appreciate you. We're always happy to talk to you.
But at first yesterday someone came up to me to
show me the photo he had taken with Clay I
think earlier in the day. Bumped into him on the
street and then bumped into me on the street. So
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that was something I gotta Seyeah. In Georgetown yesterday morning,
on my way to go meet you, as we were
headed out to the CIA, guy on the street comes
up and he's like super excited. He said his phone
was dead and so but he was like, I really
really want to get a selfie with you. Love the
show listen every day I leave you some South Carolina.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's right. I can tell the accent South Carolina for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And so so I said, all right, I'll take a
picture here. I'm not a great selfie guy met My
wife would say, I'm really bad at taking pictures, and
not just because of what I look like, but because
I'm not very good at taking the photos. But I
took a picture of a selfie with us, emailed the
guy from from my email and then you saw him too. Yeah,
he was like, this is the after we finished dinner. Yeah,
he couldn't believe it. I mean, it was our It
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was like twelve hours apart.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And then I bumped.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
So, DC is a small city with a lot going on,
a small city with a very big responsibility. Speaking with yesterday,
we're gonna we're gonna get into the the heats getting
turned up on the Middle East in Iran, and obviously
the deportations and the la riots and what's going on
in other cities. We're gonna dive into all that first,
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but just a little bit of what we're doing here.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
We yesterday went to as we mentioned, to Langley, to
CEEIA headquarters and met with some of the senior folks
over there, had some off the record conversations about what's
going on. So because it's off the record, I can't
tell you much about that. But Clay and I did
get to go very much on the record through the
spy museum they have at Langley, which was very cool.
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I mean, they've got some great stuff. They've really upgraded
it since I was there. And then later on in.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The day, I had a meeting, well, we had a meeting.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Clay can explain what happened, but we had a meeting
with the Director of National Intelligence Tulci Gabbard and her staff,
and we is doing a lot of work. We had
a scheduled meeting, well, we had a scheduled meeting that
one of us went to the other one as a
Tennessee resident, had a little booboo when it came to
his ID. So I got rejected at the White House
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and the old Executive Office Building because I showed up
for our meeting right after we finished the show yesterday.
And I don't have a real I've been traveling with
my passport. The state of Tennessee doesn't make your driver's
license default real ID. I don't want to have an
eight hour day spent at the DMV. Also, we have
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a weird schedule. We have to be on the air
from eleven to two so Central time where I live
in Nashville. So it's hard for me to commit to
anything in the morning because it might drag into when
our show starts. I got to drive back and then
by the time our show gets done getting to somewhere
before the DMV closes, It's like I have to take
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a whole day off work. And I've done it before,
but to get passports, you know, for the kids.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So anyway, and I show Florida, Florida just gives you
real ID. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't have Tennessee losing some points here, Florida surging
ahead in the red state sweepstakes. I'm just telling you
the truth. So they wouldn't let me in the White House,
can I just say? I straight up asked the Director
of National Intelligence true to vouch for my man Clay
like this felt like leaving him at the velvet rope
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at the nightclub.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I was like, but you're not gonna let my buddy
in and they're just.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You know, the secret service guys or no, like this
is the you're actually a sign. There's a sign when
you go in that says you must have real I
d no exceptions. But Clay, of course, because he's Clay was,
I mean, I'm Clay Travis, like, you know, we.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, I had a little we tried, we tried a
little bit of that. We tried a little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
He's a director of National Intelligence, said they won't let
me in if I don't have proper ideas. I mean,
my argument was, we did just spend all morning at
the CIA, and I didn't need a real ID to
get in there.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
But he's trying to evade the rules.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh, I was at the CIA all morning. They've heard
it all, Clay, They've heard So I had to leave.
I had to leave a man behind. I don't know
what to say. I had to He was in the trenches,
he was taking grenades, and I had to just run
on the battlefield solo. One positive on this is I,
as I'm standing outside in the hot, baking sun, I'm
able to be let in because I don't have a
real ID, which, by the way, oh, don't be one
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of these people, the real ID. I'm like, I am,
who I am? I've had I sound like Sam, I am,
I got the I've got the ID right.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
The fact that it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Has a little star in the corner is that somehow
making the world safer, Like is anybody out there like, hey,
you know that terror attack would have hit, but boy,
I'm glad we have the little star circle in the corner.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Of the driver's license. This is the most ridiculous thing ever.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So this is not there are rules, yeah, so but
positive trying to be positive. As I'm standing in the
baking sunlight and the pavement standing outside of the White House,
unable to go in. I ran into former NFL kicker
Jay Feely, who had a real ID and was able
to go in for his meetings. But he's going to
be on the show in the second hour, because I
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was like, hey, you just want to come on the show,
So I booked us a guest. While standing in the
hot sunshine pavement with my not real all that sweating
through your dress shirt, which worth it?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I think I got you earned it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
So we're gona have Jay Feely on I spoke to
Tulsa d and I Gabbard and her staff again off
the record, But I can just tell you that really
good context for us to understand here about some of
the moves that the administration is doing. This is really
while we're here touch base with Trump's top team and
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the people who are making the big decisions. And we've
got some other meetings that are scheduled that will be
telling you about. I'm sure you can have some guesses who.
But the point is we wanted to just have time
to speak to everybody. What are you working on, what's happening,
what's going on, and to do it in a way
where they can just speak freely to us. And you know, look,
they know we're openly, avowedly pro Trump administration, want to
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see success because really, I truly believe that the success
of the Trump administration is the success of the country
and the American people. But you always get whenever you're
in DC and you can speak people freely. And again
I said, can we say we've met with you, Yes,
but the contents of the discussions were off the record.
(07:09):
You get much better exchange because people, even if they
trust you, they don't really they don't really trust anything
in this town, so they had to keep some of
that stuff between all of us. With all that in mind,
the President has been talking about this. They had Leiman's
rob that I pronounced that you did that was pretty
thank you, thank you. They had the play going on
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at the Kennedy Center last night, and the President was
asked about this Iran conflict and the issues associated with it.
And they've been pulling You know this because when you
were in the CIA, when they start pulling people out
of family members, out of embassies in the Middle East,
there is a sign that things are not going very
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well and that there is potentially tension associated with how
things could go. And so the reason why I bring
that up is it's seems to me Buck that Israel
is ratcheting up the pressure and really wants to attack,
and that they want to go into Iran and that
they want to do it now. And so again there's
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reportedly a weekend meeting that is scheduled, but it feels
to me like the Trump administration is basically letting Iran know, hey,
we're not going to continue to protect you from Israel,
and if we are pulling our people out of the
Middle East. That is a sign that they don't necessarily
know how this meeting is going to go, and things
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could get a lot worse. I will tell you, I
think the heat is higher right now with Iran and
this it's been I understand, the Iranian nuclear issue has
been playing out for many years, for decades actually, and
now we have now we have a situation where there's
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the chance that something would happen and things could get
things could ask very quickly. I am not in favor
of a strike by the Israelis on the Iranian nuclear
facilities at this time. The Trump administration is not in
favor of an Israeli strike on the Iranian nuclear facilities
at this time. A deal would be much better. And
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I think that there's just no general feeling among the
American people that we should be drawn into any kind
of Mini's conflict right now. That's really something that we
just for most of my adult life, Clay, we've been
fighting wars in the Middle East. It's just too much.
And I showed up in some of these war zones,
did what I could, what little bit I could to help.
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But this is something that I think really guides the
Trump foreign policy on this and this is going to
get there's going to be some tension around this issue
because there are people that really truly believe that the
Iranian regime is so maniacal, so blood thirsty, that it
would use nukes against israel I. You know, this is
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where you're playing the highest the highest stakes imaginable. You're
talking about this level of war and piece. But I
do think that they're still a realistic and strong might
be too much possibility, but a realistic possibility that Trump
can get this done without without this becoming a point
of conflict when you're talking about evacuating embassies. The issue
isn't that we would lose for against Iran, that we'd
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even necessarily be brought into a war against Iran. It's
the Iranian capability to engage in terror attacks against US
targets all over the world, which they may just decide
to go for effectively, go for broke if those facilities
get hit, because it would destabilize the regime the Iranian people,
something that doesn't get talk about in this country, Clay,
the Iranian people, as much as we're always told they
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are very pro Western, they don't like their regime.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
They do for the greatness of Iran to be a
nuclear power.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
This is something that does not get talked about, but
the Iranian people want a lot of them. Now, you
could say, how could you know with the polling? You know,
there are ways that you can assess this stuff. But
there's a national pride component of Iran getting this that
makes it more complicated. It's not quite as clear as
split with the regime on this issue as we would
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like it to be. Yeah, and look, I think the
challenge in general, you understand why Iran wants nuclear weapons
because Kim Jong un has them and basically he's preserved
his family's ability to rule North Korea for generations to
come unless somebody internally takes him out. I don't think
anybody externally. Is why did Ukraine? If Ukraine could change
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one decision they made since the fall of the Berlin Wall,
I bet it would be not giving up their nukes
because do you think Russia would have invaded Ukraine if
Ukraine kept the nukes? This is, unfortunately the the takeaway
from what happened in Libya, where the or the Obama
and Hillary administration decided that they were going to engage
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in this NATO air war to help militias on the
ground overthrow. And then of course Benghazi happened, and we
remember some of this history, but Kadafi was actually cooperating
with the dismantling of and avoiding WMD programs, and we
decided a meaning the US government, you know what, not
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good enough, and they went in and we saw the
videos of what happened to Kadafi. It's very hard to commit.
And by the way, I think it's interesting. I wonder
how many people before I just said it now knew
that it is. It is just known that the Iranian
people want nukes, like this is not some thing that
I have said that is a fringe believer theory. But
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it makes this a more complicated situation because the Iranian
regime has been promising the secure and you know, we
don't really think of it this way because we're so
used to America being the scientific power. We're so used
to thinking of America as you know, of course we
have nukes, and of course we have you know, satellites
and space shuttles and all this amazing stuff. There is
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a pride in Iran among the people about the achievement,
the scientific achievement of being a nuclear power.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Other than this was true in Pakistan as well.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Some people actually point to Pakistan and India as well,
they have nukes and they weren't supposed to it. It's
a now that that gets very contentious because Pakistan and
India are not Iran and aren't doing the thing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh, Pakistan does some pretty bad stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
But this is a moment where I think we're seeing
decisions made on this issue. I don't think Clay, the
decision has been made one way or the other. In
my mind, that's what I that's the atmospheric that I
pick up. But I will say, just talking to people
here in the vicinity of the decision making process in DC,
they're very tense talking about Iran right now. Well, I
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think that's one hundred percent true. And remember, the motivation,
according to multiple reports, for why Hamas attacked Israel on
October seventh, was that Saudi Arabia was prepared to join
the Abraham Accords. And if Saudi Arabia had joined the
Abraham Accords, then the peace in the Middle East situation
would have been far more likely. And now that Syria
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we have in some ways normalized relations with Syria, I
think that Iran is isolated to a degree that may
not have occurred in a generation, and that this is
where Israel believes now is the time to hit them
and keep them from having nukes. Whether the United States
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is going to agree with that Israeli perspective remains to
be seen, but I think Israel is quite clearly behind
the scenes advocating as aggressively as possible that now is
the time to go. Yes, well, the problem and I
think the Israeli government, I know, Clay, you went and
visited and spoke to high level officials there, but one
of their concerns is also that without any fear of
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any real military direct attack on Iran, does that then
embolden the Iranian regime to push It's what are essentially
imperial and and almost colonizing activities by running these different
proxy militias in places like Lebanon with hesbelah Uh and
the Shia milicious. Why are we so worried about Iraq
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and the US embassy in Iraq, Well, it's because the
most capable military forces on the ground, when when push
comes to shove and and shove comes to shooting, are
Iranian backed and trained proxy militias. Essentially, so this is
This is a huge challenge, a huge problem that we
face and and I think that this is a test
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of the Trump administration's foreign policy and a test of
our relationship with well allies in the Middle East, Israel
first and foremost. So that's absolutely something we'll continue to
follow well, also dive deeper into the riots la all
that stuff here in just a moment, but in the meantime,
Israelis have been under attack one a kind or another
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of Christians and Jews. They're feeding elderly Holocaust survivors who
have no one else. They're building bomb shelters to protect
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are in Washington, d C. And in Washington, d C.
You run into different people all the time. And yesterday
on the sidewalk outside of the White House, I ran
into one of the next congressmen from the great state
of Arizona. He is Jafeely, been on before all right,
So you are making the rounds in Washington, DC's you
get ready for a primary season. What is it like
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to go from kind of a political I know you
have political opinions out there to now being a full
bore congressional candidate.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
What has surprised you the most about the process?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
The amount of work you have to do fundraising, you know,
and I'll be honest, like it shouldn't be about that
we shouldn't have to raise a ton of money because
we want our best people in Washington, DC representing our country,
you know, so I shouldn't be about having to go
out and raise money and then whoever raised the most money,
they're going to have an advantage.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But that's the reality of the system.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
And so you have to spend five six hours a
day doing call time, calling people, trying to generate those donations,
and then they judge you by like how much money
you raised.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You know, do you ever have a conversation with somebody
where you just want to talk about saving America and
having the funds to do it, and they want to
talk about that second kick you bade.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
This has ever come up? Yeah, for sure, you know.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
But you know, it's kind of fun because I call
somebody out of the blue and they actually know who
I am.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Oh, yeah, you were the kicker or you were the announcer,
And so it gives.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
You that avenue to say, yeah, here's what I did,
and here's why I'm willing to walk away from an
announcing job where I only had to work five months
of the year. Yeah, you know, and I got paid
well to do it, and I love doing it. It
was fun. But this is how much I care about
my country that I want to walk away from that
job and I want to represent the people of Arizona
and DC.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I bet for the most part, this is something that
is very hard to do and learn how to do.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Ask for money so hard because I hear people who don't.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean, it's one thing if you're in sales or
your fundraising things like that, that's a job that some
people have. But when I talk to people who have
not done politics before, you mentioned it right off the top,
the ask for hey, can you help me?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
How tough is that? Well, you have to sit there.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
You don't even get a tax deduct shit if you're
donating to my campaign.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, so it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
But at the same time, the more you do it
and when you meet people, I think, right now, in
America you have two different distinct parties that have completely
different views of what America should look like, you know,
and they've never been further apart, not in my lifetime,
you know. So I think those people that love our
country and that truly believe that President Trump and his
America First policies are making our country better, they want
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to support candidates that are going to support him and
that are willing to be advocates and willing to go
on TV and aren't afraid of the blowback.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And you know, that's the kind of guy I am.
That's who I'll be in Congress. One of the most
important things that you would want to tackle, assuming you
win this seat, well for for all Americans. I was
not supposed to be. Uh No.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
The words there, the tackling, and I love the tackle.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So you know that, how many articles have you made
in your career? I think about fifty?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Oh that's a lot. Thought.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Oh, I was a guy running down there like I
was going to hit you. That was fun for me.
Kicking was my Jobling somebody was When the kicker annihilates somebody,
the stadium goes insane. But I'm like standing up, jacked up.
Then I go back to Silm, like, oh my gosh,
what was the.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Best hit you ever had on something? Ted Gin?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Question?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, so when you hit ted ginn and you laid
him out? What does ted gin say anything when he
gets wrecked by a kicker? Again, Well, I had just
been teammates, so I wasn't really hitting ted Gin. I
was hitting Bill Parcells, but like through Ted Kin, because
I had I had. I was with the Dolphins, I
led the league in field goal percentage, had the best
year of my career, and then Bill Parcells came in.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
They fired everybody. He didn't like that I was the
player rep. He didn't like that I did media. He
wanted his kicker to go stand in awner and not
say a word. So they cut me and released me
after my best year.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So when I was.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Running down on that kickoff against the Dolphins the next
game I played them, I was hitting Bill Parsons, saw
Bill Parcell's face, Tony sprout, no question, But I literally
never broke stride and Ted game was going out right
and he cut back left and he cut back right
into me, and I hit him and knocked him back
about five yards. And that was like the highlight of it,
even better than the touch that I scored. Like that
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was the moment for me.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
All right, So what are the issues that you would
like to Yeah, ress issues?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
I think truly the two biggest issues for Americans. It's
border and security, and it's the economy, you know, and
when you look at what happened over the last four
years with the Biden administration and Democrats in general, they
willingly let tens of millions of llegals come into this
country and put politics in front of the protection of
the American people. They can't get away with that. They
said for four years, we need a bill pass, we
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can't do anything, we need a bill pass. And then
Trump comes in and in four months completely close down
the border and secure the border. And so the American
people need to hold Democrats accountable for that. They want
to ignore it and all the issues that we're seeing
in la and throughout the country that goes directly back
to what they did at the border and the decisions
they made to let those people come across. And I'm
an advocate for legal immigration, like I had two kids
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that we brought legally from Haiti and helped them go
to college. You know, So when I stand up there
and talk about securing the border and not having illegal immigration,
I think we also have to be able to say, hey,
it's okay to love immigrants and to want more legal
immigration and an easier legal immigration process while being ardently
against illegal immigration. I think those two things get conflicted,
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and then the economy. People just want to be able
to look at their future, especially young My son's here
with me, he's on the campaign, you know, just got married.
Him looking at buying a house in our district. Median
house four hundred and fifty thousand. That's you know, it's
doubled twice in the last like six years out in Arizona.
And you see that across the country, this massive inflation.
And so you have to find ways to help people
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like believe in their future, believe that I'm going to
be able to provide for my family and that I'm
going to have a job, you know, And I think
that's the job of President Trump and the Republicans right now.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Create a bill that helps everyone.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Create a bill that helps the economy, that grows the
economy and provides opportunity for everyone.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
You have been in sports for a long time. I
saw you weigh in on this. We talked about it
earlier the week on the show. She sense apologized, what
did you think when Simone Biles went after Riley Gaines?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Obviously, you know she didn't have the full concept of
what she was talking about, because now she's pulled back
those comments. You know, but as a dad who coached
his daughter's high school girls high school soccer team. You know,
they didn't have a girls team when my daughter was
going into high school. I'm like, that's ridiculous. They said, well,
we need a coach. I said, I'll coach the team.
So we started the team. You know, five years later
we win a state championship. But watching those girls and
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what they accomplished, and the opportunities they had, and those
life lessons, I don't want that taken away from any
single girl because a guy decides I want to play
in girls sports and the argument that they're not biologically
better is absolutely ridiculous. It's completely devoid for many raps thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And this is important, all right, Uh, it's an issue
I want to dig into since you sat down with us.
Clay thinks that in his current state, he could go
one v one against a w NBA player.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Okay, inside, excuse me, I'm setting this up.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I just I don't want him think that I'm going
to break down. Caitlyn already hedging. Okay, he's pretty hedging.
But but he thinks that he could, you know, old
man style, use that use that wide body, back back
or down until you shoot.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Game to eleven. That was a pretty good shooter. I
didn't say. Now you said in the past ten, I'm saying, you.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Say, Clay thinks game to eleven. He can take Angel
Reese and has put up a quarter of a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I want to see it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I mean the idea I would see what I would too?
Would you back his player? Would you hedge against our
man Clay?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I think I could go and I could take on
the women's US national team in soccer right now, at
forty nine years old as well.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I think I could go out there and play with him.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Probably could could dominate with your with your Yeah, you're
voice athletes, So your question is an important one that that.
So the only recent basketball play I have had was
against my eighth grade son. Now he's a pretty good
basketball player, but he's probably five eight five nine, so
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I'm bigger than him and I beat He's gonna be
so disappointed that I said this publicly to millions of people.
I beat him head to head in the backyard. Now, Uh,
he was really upset, Uh that that I beat him.
So that's the last time.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Job.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Some people are like, hey, I'll let him win. I
was like, no, I'm gonna make him work. Now he's
had about three or four months since then where he
has continued on the swing and a dad's definitely on
the downswing. And the last time I played, I don't
know if you know this in a competitive game, and
this is a sad thing, but they have like Warrior
basketball leagues and I played I probably seven or eight
years ago in Nashville, and I do remember Buck, which
(25:56):
is why I'm saying inside not I remember being in
a defensive crouch and not a great basketball player against me,
cross me over. And I was like, well, he's going
to cross me over. I should take a step to
the side. So I'm still in front of him, and
I just didn't move, you know, like were you having
mine in the body?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Were alive?
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I knew what I knew what I should do. I
was like, all right, he's taking me to the right.
Now he's gonna come back to the left. And I
was like, I should just step over. And there are
montages already in the heads of the audience where you've
seen Rocky. I'm gonna be on the bicycle next to
Clay telling him, you know, if he if he gets
this Angel Reese showdown that he wanted. I got to
(26:36):
train them my eighth grade son's basketball team. They're rising
ninth graders now, they're pretty good, and they were like, hey,
we will train you.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So I play with LPGA girls and golf.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Yes, there's a couple of members that will I'll play
with them and I can beat them when I play well.
And I'm a two, so not great, you know, but
like when I play one, I putt well, I can
beat them head to head.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's from playing from the men's t's. I'm playing the
exact same tis right all the way back right. So
if you take a dude, you know, like here my
son is out here is twenty two. He's a two
as well, but he hits it like three fifty.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You know, if he decided I want to play in
the LPGA Tour and I'm going to identify as.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
A woman, yeah, it's it's ridiculous. Yeah, you know, they
would dominate that tour.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Just like Serena Williams say, Hey, if I played, you know,
the fiftieth or a hundredth rate, man, like, I'd get
my butt kicked.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I might.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I might have to bring your services as an announcer
into the mix if we do this. Clay angel Rey
showed out I.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Will this thing properly. Yeah, yeah, I will.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
By the way, the UH athletes, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic
men in particular, athletes, guys who even played high school, college,
or pro. Are there any guys that actually think this
is okay that you've ever met of any background?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I don't think rational men. Do you know you talk
about a locker room. We talked about this last time.
I think maybe five percent, less than five percent, because
you know how special sports is, and you know the
impact that it has on people's lives and how it
can change the direction of someone's life, and I think
that's what makes it so special, and you want to
protect that for women. It's not saying that I don't
love somebody who's transgender. I don't want to see them happy.
(28:06):
That's not it at all. You're saying, hey, let's protect
sports for women and make sure that we're not taking
something away an accomplishment from somebody because some guy says
I want to compete in women's swimming or I want
to compete in a women's sports.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Just not right, it's not fair, and it's not safe.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Jay, what is your site for Congress? We need those
folks to step up and help you in your district.
Jafeey for Congress dot Com. You can go on there
check it out. You can donate and support and listen.
We're just trying to make this country better every day.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I think that's why I'm willing to walk away from
my job and broadcasting, because I believe in this country.
I believe in its future, and you know, I want
to be a part of making it better.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Through the uprights for America. That's right, make it yeah,
make America great again, and let's keep it that way. Amen,
Jay Feely, go check out that site.
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Speaker 2 (30:17):
We're playing some of your talkbacks and you can always
leave us messages easy way to get through to the show,
and a lot of them, as regularly are the case,
are fantastic and we enjoy listening to those. And we've
talked a little bit about the fact that the New
York City Mayor's race is coming up very fast. And
by mayor's race we mean when it's unfortunate, but oftentimes, now,
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whoever wins the primary on the Democrat side is going
to be the mayor New York's current mayor. For those
of you have been paying Eric paying attention Eric Adams,
we don't know exactly what he's gonna do. Maybe he's
going to run as an independent. He's not running in
the Democrat primary. And right now, Andrew Cuomo is the favorite.
And we talked about this, and Buck does a phenomenal
(31:00):
Andrew Cuomo.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Uh if Buck does a phenomenal Andrew Cuomo impersonation, and uh,
I'm gonna play this is actually crazy because as much
as you may think Andrew Cuomo is a crazy man,
as much as you may think Andrew Cuomo is not
worthy of being the mayor, and Buck, as a former
New York City resident born and raised, you may take
(31:25):
this as a crazy take. I actually think Andrew Cuomo
is as Democrat candidates go, maybe the rational reasonable one
you believe this. This is like being told that you
have the choice of amputating your hand or both of
your legs. You know, this is a very tough decision
to be made, and it's not a fun one no
(31:46):
matter what. Yeah, it's uh, you're gonna have to chop
a finger off and uh and then which one are
you gonna decide to go with? Yes, I agree, but
I want to play for you. This is I believe
team may make sure that I'm correct on this. This
is I believe considered to be again based on polling,
the top candidate against Cuomo, Zoran Mamadanni.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Zoran Mamadanni.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
This is the guy who was endorsed by AOC recently
that we were talking about yesterday. If I'm not mistaken,
listen to this crazy town perspective that he had back
in twenty twenty. He said that police should be removed
from high crime areas all together, and that he believes
cops should be replaced with social workers. This is how
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crazy town some of these decisions are. And this is
a top candidate to potentially be New York City mayor.
Listen to cut one.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Do you think that we have to almost do without
pleasing in certain areas which our label would be in
high primes to have alternative bodies the listen in a
more compassionate, more merciful, more social assistant and helping more
than arresting and putting in jail.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I absolutely think that what we need to do is
give support and funding two institutions that are trained to
deal with.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
These kinds of issues.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
As you said, if you're having an argument with someone
and there's a risk of it escalating, who is better
positioned to de escalate it someone who is well known
in the community, or someone who has been trained specifically
in de escalation, or a stranger who has a gun.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
This is moronic, moronic beyond words. One of the reasons
that this will not this will not be something that
New Yorkers go for this in this election, meaning specifically
on this issue of depolicing, which is what he's what
year was that was back in Oh yeah, yeah, of
course I was going to say. He was saying this
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because that was what the politics of the moment demanded.
As we have seen and as we know from the numbers,
the BLM movement has resulted in substantially more homicide in
this country. Disproportionately affecting members of the minority community. So
more people, particularly black and brown people, dead than would
have been had they not mounted this campaign to depolice
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these areas. And here's what's remarkable. I think about what
we've seen and what we've learned since then, not just
based on the numbers play because of police body camps,
these arguments that are made are much more difficult and
because of the proliferation of videos. I'll give you an example.
Here we are Washington, DC. It was actually a former
I believe a former Georgetown basketball player. The incident involved
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as a female. Yeah, that's right, and she was a
former Georgetown University basketball player and it was a wellness call.
So this is the perfect example, a wellness call by
a Virginia police officer to check on somebody who was
in substantial distress. Right that that was the backstory, And
when he came to the door, and it's all on video,
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she grabbed a large razor sharp kitchen knife and tried
to kill him and he had to shoot her, and
he was entirely justified. It's very sad, as she clearly
was having some kind of a mental breakdown, but there's
no choice here, right. I mean, if somebody attacks you
like that, you have an absolute human right, not just
the legal right, a human right to defend yourself. What
if a social worker had been there, Well, if a
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social worker had been there, it would have been a
dead body that you know, would have been unable to
protect himself or herself. That's just one example. But when
you look at the situations that they that they oppose,
that they talk about, oh, we need violence, like this
was the thing they used to talk about violence interrupters.
The only person that has any chance of being a
violence interrupter is somebody who is on the side of
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the good guys and can do violence to protect those
who are being victimized himself or herself. There's no chance
that you're gonna call it together in the moment, some
special you know, healer of the people, who's just gonna
be like, oh, everything's fine, guys, like put your guns down.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
And also, who would want that job totally?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So who who would want to get called in the
middle of the night and told hey, there's a super
violent situation.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Can you talk them down with no weapons?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I mean, is there anybody who I don't want to
sign up? For that joke.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
You know why this is, I mean I remember this
very much because I was absolutely furious about what was
going on in New York.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know that riot.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
There was a BLM riot on my block and shattered
all the store or storefronts, and you know, restaurants had
their doors kicked in and their windows broke in and
stuff like that. And I remember when all this is
going on, they were making these kinds of crazy arguments.
It was a real mass hysteria moment in the country.
It's a true it was part of COVID made everyone
freak out, and then the left, the street communists use
this to get everyone to go crazy. But they made
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these kinds of arguments then. I don't think they can
get away with making these kinds of arguments now because
we see what actually.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Happens and what the reality is.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Oh and also when they would say things like we
need violence interrupters, when you would actually talk to these people,
this came out over time, it was well, I mean,
I need a cop there with me, right, Like, I'm
not just showing up between the gang members who are armed,
who are about to shoot each other as if also
you can just it's like a Batman movie where someone
just appears right when the bad guys are about to do.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
You know, that's a movie that's not reality.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
The only thing that really works from a law enforcement perspective,
the NYPD.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
All the data shows this is you put it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
They call it cops on dots, more cops in places
where bad things are happening, so that the you know,
ninety five percent of people who commit no crimes or
ninety nine or whatever the number is, they get to
go to work, and they get to go to the
grocery store, and they get to do things safely. And
the people that want to commit crimes have to deal
with the consequences of their action. So the point here
is the New York City mayoral candidate number two, Zora Mundati,
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is an insane communist and the fact that anybody would
vote for him is a total indictment of the insanity
of the Democrat electorate in New York. And this is
really gonna hurt Moses from San Diego at co Go
there where we've been number one for a while, off
and on. We appreciate everybody listening in southern California. He
has asked, please don't talk about Andrew Cuomo anymore, and unfortunately,
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I think he's gonna be the mayor, and even more unfortunately,
I think he may be the best of a series
of awful choices.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Listen to BB here.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Good morning man, congratulations on your continued success. Look, do
all of us listeners a favor and just summarize anytime
that idiot como speaks, there has never been a more
sanctimonious and completely He is a condescending ah. Don't ever
play his voice again, please, Moses.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I feel like I do not have your vote, Moses.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
I would like to work for your vote as mayor
and as a future presidential candidate under the Democrat ticket.
I guess Moses does not believe in Andrew Cuomo's ability
to part the Red sea and lead him to a
primrose path of victory in our nation's largest city.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
But this is the choices were left with.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
And I don't even know what the impact would be
if this crazy town individual ended up the mayor. I mean,
Bill de Blasio was a disaster, horrible. I mean I
built the difference between the Blasio and Adams. And remember
I still have half of my family and my parents,
my sister half my family still lives in New York City,
so I'm hearing about it all the time, and our
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team is based out of New York City on radio, right.
So the thing with Bill Deblasia was that he made
the city.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Suffer and thought it was what we deserved in New York.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Whereas Mayor Adams tried to fix it, he's just incapable
of doing it. He just isn't up for the job.
So it's a different Both of them are not good
enough at what they were trying to do. But with Adams,
it was not that much really of an improvement at all.
So that was pretty pretty disappointing. But unfortunately that is
the reality that we were reality that we were facing
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at that time.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
We'll get also, maybe we'll get our buddy, the Sage
of Staten Island, Joe BURRELLI on talk about what's going
on with this mayor's race, which is happening soon. It's
the next big election in terms of the primary. It's
going to be in the next two weeks. I think
June twenty fourth is that date, if I'm not mistaken.
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Speaker 1 (41:20):
We are continuing to follow very closely these protests and riots.
We're gonna use those words interchangeably. There are protests and
there are riots, so you don't have to correct us
when we say protests. We're aware of both of these things,
and protests is fine. And as we learned from Caroline
Levitt yesterday, it is a stupid question for anyone who
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the press to say it as President Trump. I like
the way she handled that, because that was just meant
to be an insult. It's like this President Trump, even
the Constitution.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Like, yeah, idiot, ask a real question. So I like
the way that she handled that. That was great.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Caroline Levitt, you know, we were on the Levit train
very early. Here I'm just saying, we were on the
Levet train when she was running for Congress, so we
knew she was going to be a superstar. And here
she is.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
But you had the press trying to make something of this,
trying to make it seem like the American people aren't
with the Trump administration efforts to enforce the law, and
some very interesting things are going on with all this,
with these riots, with these protests, all that stuff. First
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of all, I think on how this has gone over politically.
Former Democrat has cut five Batya Unger, Sargon We've talked
about her before here on we had her on the
show recently, Yeah, we had her on the show. She
was on that CNN panel The only thing worth watching
at CNN. Doesn't this tell you something?
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Clay is the.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Occasional center right person, sometimes the center, sometimes truly right wing.
From Scott Jennings for Michael Singleton, Batya Unger, Sargon Ben Ferguson,
the only thing watching worth watching is the conservative slapping
around the Libs at that table here is Batya talking
about the deportations and the truth of what Trump promised
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play fought.
Speaker 7 (43:04):
I hear this talking point a lot from Democrats that
Donald Trump misled the American people and somehow said he
was only going to deport violent criminals priority to every
single rally that I watched, he said, we are going
to have the largest deportation operation in American history. And
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the reason he did that is because that position has
majority support with the American people. And that position is
what got him the majority of working class people because
immigration is a topic that divides the working class from
the elites. The elites are the consumers of low wage labor,
and when you guys say they're taking people from the community.
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What you mean is they're taking people from the workforce,
people who undercut the wages of American workers, which is
why the working class flipped from the Democrats to the Republicans.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Two important points she's making their clay. One, Trump promised
the biggest deportation operations in history. Prioritizing the worst of
the worst defenders doesn't give everyone else a pass in this.
It's just okay, Yeah, we're going to focus on getting
the you know, child molesters and you know, gang members
with blood on their hands, get them out of the
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country who are legal aliens first.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
So that's point one.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Trump is doing exactly what he promised, which is why
I keep saying everyone says, who voted for Trump, Yeah,
I voted for this. I mean I voted for this.
And the second part of it is just the exploitation
of cheap labor and how central that is to the
donor class, to the elites. And this brings me to
they're going to have to start enforcing fines against employers
with this. They have to come at this from which
(44:43):
is going to be a little bit of a wake
up call, but it needs to happen.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
It is illegal if you.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Are employing large numbers or any numbers of illegals in
your business. You're not supposed Now, someone will say, but
they have fake Social Security cards and they have faked
so it's a little more complicated. But for the worst
defenders you need to do some deterrence enforcement. Yeah, and
I do think that the degree to which illegal immigrants
have incredibly detailed fake Social Security cards. You say, okay, well,
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how does that happen? I don't know how they get
them made. But Social Security then gets paid money that
never go out. So that is some element out there
for people who say, okay, well how does this happen?
The money still goes in for payroll taxes, except the
numbers are not necessarily getting matched. Now sometimes my understanding
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is there is identity theft and fraud going on, and
it's a complicated aspect, but yes, that factors in. I
thought this was interesting too, because they tried to say
for a long time, well, there's not actually riot's going
on in LA. Remember Brian Stelter went on CNN and
he said, remember, it's very important to note that ninety
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nine point nine percent of Los Angeles is having no
issue at all.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
And meanwhile, pile.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yesterday, La Mayor Karen Bass said the city has so
much graffiti that the vandalism so extensive.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
They won't be ready for the World Cup next year.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Listen to this cut because it definitely calls into question
the talking point that this is a small issue of
violent and the illegal behavior.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Cut eight.
Speaker 8 (46:24):
The graffiti that is just blanketing a number of blocks
has been extensive. We are one year away from the
World Cup. This is about beautifying our city and bringing
our city together, and so I am calling on business leaders,
community leaders, faith leaders to come together downtown in the
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next few days to talk about how we are going
to clean up the city. Obviously, city workers are already
out there removing the graffiti, but this is so extensive
it's going to take community wide involvement. We had launched
a program called a couple of months ago in preparation
for the World Cup, and now we are called on
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to direct that citywide. We need people from all over
the city to come to downtown and to help with
this effort.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Okay, I got a crazy idea for you, Buck. Maybe
the people who did the graffiti, as a part of
paying penance for their crimes, should have to clean up
the graffiti that they created, instead of asking good people
in Los Angeles who had nothing to do with this
and LA Area taxpayers to clean up the mess that
they created and frankly that the mayor and the governor
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allowed to occur. Second part on this, I actually think
Trump could come out and say, why does Los Angeles
deserve to host the World Cup? I mean, there are
lots of cities in red states that are not rioting.
You live in Florida, there's a whole heck of a
lot about we'll talk about how Florida we're going to play.
That cut in a sect from Ron desanteis governor. But
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there's a whole heck of a lot of places. I
know some of these cities are already hosting the World Cup,
but there are a lot of Red states out there
where I think Trump could say, why should you reward
a city that wasn't able to keep itself from rioting
with a World Cup host? You got a year away.
There's a lot of stadiums where you could host games well.
I also think, as somebody who saw firsthand what a
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visual virus graffiti can be in New York, and this
is you go back to these movies, whether it's the
Charles Bronson Death Wish movies or just I think Warriors
with the Gangs. I mean, all these different There was
just graffiti everywhere. And when I was a kid in
the city, you know, early nineties, there was in the
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nicest neighborhoods, there was graffiti everywhere, and it was a
constant psychological menace of degradation, of barbarism.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
I know, people say, oh, it's just no, no, no,
it's destruction of property, it's lawlessness, it's criminals, and it's
just a sign of the criminality that is constantly all
around you. It is a visual reminder, the same way
that masks during COVID were so important to left because
it was a visual reminder of who is in charge
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and your mandatory obedience.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Right, That's what it was. It was obedience training for
the masses. When you have graffiti everywhere, it is the
psychological you know, the psychological assault of you're in a
lawless place, You're in a place where people don't respect property,
where the authorities can't actually protect you. And so I
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am so adamantly anti graffiti as a as a thing.
I do not take it lightly. I think that it
gets worse and worse and worse in places that allow.
I know that it does because I see and you
can turn it around. But you got to be to
your point and you got to be harsh with people
who do it. And one of the best ways to
do it is, you know what, you can either go
to prison or you can spend every weekend for the
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next six months cleaning up graffiti.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
How about that? That absolutely is the way there should be.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
But it also just goes the mentality of these people
who were involved in these because if it's all over
the city, we're talking to a lot of people who
are doing this obviously, uh, and they think that the
laws don't apply to them.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
And they're often right. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Well, I'm hoping that Trump is going to show that
at least when it comes to immigration, and I think
he is showing this, and this is the whole point.
The laws do apply to them. But I'm seeing more.
I even saw somebody on Twitter suggesting this says, yeah,
this is what I say, if these people, if you
don't have to be legal in this country, I don't
have to pay taxes. Increasingly this has and you can
(50:40):
make the same arguments my tax dollars do. I'm a
nice person. I don't hurt anybody, but you don't need
my tax The Treasury Department isn't going to go bankrupt
without my taxes.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
You're gonna lock me up.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
You're gonna separate me from my family if I don't
pay taxes. Same kind of arguments you can make about
illegal immigration, except they're making it for tens of millions
of But this is the same argument. I'm not hurting anybody,
but you're actually breaking the law, and you're making a
choice to break the law. I also think buck the
way that the far left is coming together on these
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rallies and these riots. This cut we have here from Seattle.
There are other cities where people are starting to riot.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
I don't know how well you'll be able to hear this,
but SPD, Seattle Police Department KKK. We all know what
the KKK is ku kuk plan, and then the IDF,
the Israeli Defense Forces, they're all the same. This is
a chant right now that's going on in Seattle. This
is part of their worldview on the left, connecting all
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these different aspects of the world. Listen to Cut four. Okay,
not necessarily the easiest slogan to chant, but buck. This
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is indicative of the global worldview that they are trying
to bring together. We'll talk about this a bit more.
We also have an unbelievable woke white protester that we're
going to play for you from New York City.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Will hit that as well.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
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