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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. I am still
in Washington, d C. For the next several days at
our iHeart Studios here.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Much to discuss.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Buck is in can France on the French Riviera right now.
I believe as we speak, it would be what about
six pm over there, And it's actually interesting why he's there,
because it speaks to the growth of the show, but
also a lot of advertisers suddenly clamoring to be on
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this show, and so he is meeting with many of
the biggest brands in America that have suddenly realized, Hey,
these guys talk to a huge population all over the country.
And I've made jokes about this before, and we're going
to get into a lot of serious things. But it
is somewhat funny to me that we've been doing this
show for four years and not one car company has
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ever advertised on this show, not one restaurant has ever
advertised on this show. Not one beer has ever advertised
on this show, Not one liquor company has ever advertised
on this show, and then suddenly you're finding out, Oh,
by the way.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
They all should be.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
And you guys have a lot of money to spend,
and you do go to restaurants, and you do buy cars,
and you like to watch sports and movies and everything
else that the general suave of America would be all about.
And so suddenly everybody is clamoring to buy ads on
this program. You'll probably start to hear it. I was
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with We had a great event down in Palm Beach
for all of our advertisers a couple weeks ago, and
the guys at Price Pick said, yeah, you're the best
advertisement that we have bought in the history basically at
Price Picks. So you guys sign up, you guys respond,
and we know all of our advertisers. We love them.
But there's a lot of different directions that all of
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that is headed. But that is where Buck is. So
he is going to be on the French Riviera. There's
probably some good AI memes that you guys can create
of Buck advertising on the French Riviera with all of
the big wigs at iHeart, but that is where he
is going to be. I will be with you solo
entirely this week, so let's dive into everything that took place.
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A good time to be in DC, lots of different
news taking place over the weekend. I thought we saw
a very crystallized version of the way in which you
see the world and the way in which, to a
large extent, you see the country, And in particular that
was surrounding the military parade that took place here Saturday
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in Washington, DC, and I thought was comp I thought
it was historically resonant. When you saw all of the
different army uniforms throughout history, it felt to me like
somewhat of a walking distillation of a Smithsonian Museum, which
if you have been to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You have likely toured.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I spent Father's Day, and Happy Father's Day to all
the great dads out there and all of the people
who are helping to raise the next generation of young
men and young women all over the country, and the
importance of dads I think probably drastically underrated. I may
dive into that a bit during the course of today's program,
but I spent Father's Day with my seventeen year old
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he just finished his junior year in high school.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
We went to the Air and Space Museum.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That was what he was really excited to do, and
so we were just there, like a lot of dads
and moms who were with their kids, walking through the exhibits.
And I was particularly struck by the Orville and Wilbur
Wright exhibit in the Air and Space Museum, because to me,
those guys represent the essence of American ingenuity. You had
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so many people out there for hundreds of years, thousands
of years saying, boy, it would be really nice to
know what it's like to fly in the clouds, to
be able to look down on the world like a
bird does, and many of us take it for granted.
I'm still kind of surprised my son is one of
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those who doesn't take it for granted. But the number
of people who get on an airplane and immediately close
the window and have no interest whatsoever in looking out.
That's a view that, for thousands of years, would have
been the most impressive thing that any human ever saw,
and yet many of us take it for granted every
single day, the ease with which we can travel around
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the world and the views that we have, the bird's
eye view. I still like to look out the window
when I get on planes when we're landing in cities,
and there's a cool view that again, for thousands of years,
every human would have dreamed of knowing what it actually
looked like to be up that high in the sky.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And Orville and Wilbur.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Wright, these bicycle shop guys in Dayton, Ohio, decided, Hey,
you know, I know everybody else in the entire history
of humanity has failed, but we think we can design
a flying machine.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And they did it. And it's really a remarkable story.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And I don't think it's one that gets talked about enough,
but I've been thinking about it a lot in the
context of the dual marches that we saw taking place
over the weekend, And what really stood out to me
is I looked and read and you can actually stand,
and I took a picture of it like many people do,
the original plane that they took that they flew in
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the early nineteen hundreds, and just think about how rapidly
we evolved in our pursuit of flight and then, to
a large extent, how it just stopped. And I thought
it's an interesting metaphor of American ingenuity in general. So
in the early nineteen hundreds, the Orville and Wilbur Wright.
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Creation of the airplane leads to a massive change in
our ability to traverse the country and the world. Lindbergh
flies across the Atlantic, becomes a huge star.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
World War One and World War.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
II leads to the rapid evolution of aircraft. In nineteen
sixty nine, we go to the Moon, which obviously is
also quite well chronicled in the Air and Space Museum.
You can see the landers there. My son was super impressed.
I hadn't been to the Air and Space Museum in
twenty five years probably, So you're walking around there, think
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about that, in the space of a normal life, you
could have been born where there were no airplanes, and
you could have been alive when we walked on the moon.
That's pretty staggering when you think about it. My own
grandfather was born in nineteen oh five and he died
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in nineteen ninety and the trajectory of his life now
he never got on an airplane, which is interesting. I mean,
my grandparents never got on an airplane. They had eighth
grade educations from coal mining country in Kentucky, came down
and worked. My grandfather did his whole life at DuPont,
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but you could go from not even ever seeing an
airplane to watching on television as we set foot on
the moon. Then what happened?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I was walking around the Air and Space Museum on Saturday, Sunday, sorry,
Father's Day, and I was talking with my son. We
basically stopped. Now we're trying to go back to the moon.
Human progress doesn't move necessarily as rapidly as we think.
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When we go back and study history, we basically have
been frozen in time since about nineteen sixty nine. Some
of you listening to me right now, I wasn't born
until seventy nine, but you will remember watching on television
as we walked on the face of the moon, and
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probably in nineteen sixty nine. If you could take yourself
back to the way that you felt on that day,
if I had asked you, hey, what's going to be
the case with American exploration by the time we get
to twenty twenty five, I think, if you consider the
right brain, they're starting in early nineteen hundred and by
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a little bit over three generations later we were walking
on the moon. I think if I had told you
three generations from being on the moon, you would have
thought that we would be living in space. You would
have certainly thought that we would have been to Mars.
You would have thought that we would have been to
many of the different planets in our Solar system and
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maybe beyond, because you would have expected for there to
be a progression didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Now, I understand some of you may.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Say, well, the overall cost of space exploration, what do
we gain from it?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
All those things? Well, I think having a.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Majestic vision for the future of America has to encompass
space travel in some way because it expands the horizon
of human possibility. And I was thinking a lot about
that because there were two stories I thought that were
being told on Saturday in this country. One was Trump
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trying to make America great again by celebrating the great
two hundred and fifty year history of our army and
what they have accomplished since they were founded in seventeen
seventy five. The other was a protest against Trump, saying
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we can't have kings. No kings. That was the newest rally.
But the reason we don't have kings is because of
the military. Because the Continental Army defeated the greatest power
in the world in one of the most tremendous upsets
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in the history of the world, and then in an
even bigger upset, we didn't return to a kingdom. George
Washington voluntarily gave up power, which has basically never happened
in the history of the world if you remember your history.
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They compared George Washington to Cincinnatis because they had to
go all the way back to ancient Rome to even
find a man in position of power who didn't insist
on his children taking over, who voluntarily relinquished that power
and allowed others to rise to the highest position in
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the land. And so No Kings actually should have been
a celebration of what we saw of the military parade.
All of the people showing up in cities to celebrate
No Kings should have been showing up in Washington, d c.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
To celebrate our military which ensured.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That we did, in fact have no kings in this
country in that every four years we can pick a
new leader. They don't see it, they don't make the connection.
I'm gonna play you some cuts. I was watching the reaction.
I just felt so sad for all of those people
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showing up at the No King's rally. They've been listening
to legacy media. They have no real knowledge of what's
truly taking place. And I was thinking about all this
as I walked through the Air and Space Museum, And
do you know who the modern day Wilbur and Orville
Wright is? Elon Musk. We have been who helped to
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get Trump into office. We have been living in many
ways in a stagnated technological universe for much of my
life and for many of your lives. And suddenly the
horizon of possibility is exploding. Autonomous vehicles trying to go
to Mars, the creation of brand new space ships. I'm
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gonna go to break here in a second. But my
son asked an interesting question as we were walking into
the Air and Space Museum. He said, why is it
called a rocket ship? So actually a really good question.
I never really thought about it. A ship on seas
is very different than a rocket plane, which is really
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what the rocket ship is. And I said, I bet
it derives because people saw the rocket ship as an
extension of the exploration era, which was fueled by ships.
And so we don't call it a rocket plane, which
actually would make a lot more sense, right. We call
it a rocket ship because the pioneers who discovered the
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world and mapped it did so on ships. And my
guess is someone was smart enough to say, this is
a version of the ships that allowed us to see
the world, they're going to allow us to explore the universe.
Sometimes words become so common that you don't think about
where they derived from. So anyway, I spent a lot
of time thinking about all of this as I was
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walking around our nation's capital over the weekend. And I'm
going to continue to talk about this because certainly, not
only is that going on, the future of the Middle
East might well be decided right now as many people
are turning our eyes to what's happening in Iran. We're
going to continue to update you on that all week long.
But I want to tell you part of preparing for
the future is preparing for the fact that we're not
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dot Com. There are arguments don't really have any cogency,
and they continue to make the same one. But as
we went to break there, I played that seventy four
year old woman at the No King's protest telling a
reporter how scared she was, wondering how anyone could have
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voted for Trump. I voted for Trump. Most of you
out there listening to us voted for Trump. I don't
know that you would find very many Trump voters crying
in the streets. If Kamala had won, now, the country
would have been in a really difficult spot. It's hard
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for me to even think about how awful things would
be if Kamala had won. But we just had to
go through it with Joe Biden, and I thought, surely
they're going to come up with a new line of attack.
I will say no kings is better programming than no
oligarchs because most people didn't know what oligarchs were, and
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no fascists because most people don't really understand what fascism is.
People at least understand.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
What a king is.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
But Representative Eric Swallwell, the congressman from California who slept
with the Chinese spy, not even a very good looking
Chinese spy by the way, no offense to Fang Fang,
but like he didn't even get a good looking Chinese spy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
They even have to give.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
They didn't have to bring in the victorious, secret looking
Chinese spy to get Swallowell to sleep with her. Here
he is saying Trump's hitler.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Donald Trump is America's hitler.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Can you imagine being that sad you went to a
protest to hear the same argument made for ten years.
You know, it's been ten years since Trump came down
the escalator. The Trump era has only increased in his popularity.
The amount of votes that he has gotten has continued
to rise without a decade the rise of Adolf Hitler.
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I just I can't believe that this is the argument
that they are going to be making. And I want
to circle back to what I was saying about the
two different world views that are embedded in the in
the in the protest and or the celebrations that we
saw over the course of the weekend. Really, no kings
and the military protest should have been one big celebration,
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because the only reason we don't have kings is because.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Of the colonial army.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And I'm here in DC and I was thinking about
that because the left is so broken. I went to
George Washington University. It's just they gave me a scholarship.
I graduated in three years. That's why I went there.
It's a largely rich kid school. I think it's like
eighty thousand dollars a year. That is just down the
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street from the White House. And in the last few years,
in the wake of George Floyd. The students at George
Washington University decided that they needed to protest, and what
they demanded was that the colonial mascot be taken off
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of the University George Washington Colonials. When I was there,
they decided that this is all real, this is not
made up. They decided that the colonials actually reminded them
too much of colonialism and colonization, and so they demanded
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that the mascot be changed. Now, intelligent, I was a
history major. Intelligent adults should have set down these moron
kids and they should have said, hey, kids, we were
actually the colonies. The colonial army was fighting back against
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the colonizer. Just because the names sound somewhat familiar, you're
actually demanding the change of the name that reflects an
army that fought against the colonizers. Heroes of your worldview
are actually the colonial army.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I don't know why adults aren't willing to sit down
with moron kids and point this out. I would be
happy to do it. I was a history major at GW. Instead,
they changed the name to the Revolutionaries. It doesn't make
any sense, but it is. I think the foundational element
here of a bastardization of history and an inability to
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understand history. That leads us to the no Kings March,
which is occurring in opposition to an army celebratory march,
which actually had people dressed up as members of the
colonial army who ensured that we were not going to
be ruled by kings. One of the lessons of history
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is if you don't know it, you can get manipulated
in a significant way.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
And these kids are paying eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Dollars a year to go to GW and they are
demanding that the colonial moniker be pulled away. And it's
not coincidental that the university listen to the morons change
the name to Revolutionaries, and then within about a year
and a half, two years of changing the name of
the mascot, the campus was taken over by anti Israel protesters.
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All of this is connected. It's important to recognize how
we get to where we are. It's often a progression.
If you destroy history, if you destroy our knowledge of history,
and you make everybody have the memory of a goldfish,
then you can actually end up with millions of people
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in this country showing up thinking they're on the right
side of history arguing for no kings, while Trump is
actually celebrating the fact that we don't have kings by
having people dressed up as colonial soldiers march marchdown Constitution Avenue,
and they're out there arguing that this is an example
of fascism hilarian in nature, and this is where American
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democracy dies. They have so lost the plot that they're
actually arguing in favor of in favor of the same
thing that the march is. But they're not intelligent enough
to make that connection, and they've.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Moved from.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Trump is never going to leave office to I don't
even know what their argument is now, and I think
it's why.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
It's continuing to fail.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
But I tie this all back in with the way
I started off the program, and I really do think
that this is important. Air and Space Museum. I just
want to lay out these numbers and I want you
to think about it. Nineteen oh three, Orville and Wilbur
Wright create the airplane. Nineteen twenty seven, Charles Lindberg becomes
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a huge celebrity for flying across the Atlantic without stopping.
Nineteen sixty nine, We walk on.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
The face of the Moon.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Since then, we really haven't progressed in our exploration until
now Elon Musk is potentially I think he's going to
do it.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think he's going to.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Put a man on Mars, and I think it's going
to accelerate our age of exploration in a way that
has not occurred, frankly, for multiple generations. I think Trump
sees that. I think it's connected in even though he's
criticized for it, when Trump talks about Greenland, or Canada
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or the Panama Canal, he's actually thinking about America and
an expansionist, exploratory concept that is not fixed in place.
It's not static. The American dream is continuing to expand,
and he's thinking about our country in the way that
American leaders used to as one where we're constantly advancing
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and exploring new lands and bringing new freedoms. And I
think it's connected to the way that he's handled Iran.
Top of the next hour, I'm going to talk all
about Iran and why. I think the people out there
who are criticizing President Trump over Iran, and there's.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
A lot of them on the right, many of them
you may listen to.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You may read I don't have any problem with the
marketplace of ideas.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Anybody out there.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Some of you may have seen me arguing over the
weekend with Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks. He
came after me. People can attack me all they want.
That's the marketplace of ideas. Actually talk to my kids
about this. You know, technology can be good, except if
your dad or your mom happens to have a public profile.
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They can just type in your name on Google and
there's tons of articles that come up. It's probably not
going to shock you. Sometimes people don't really like me.
And I've been talking about this with my kids for years.
I think it's been healthy for them. I said, look,
even when they're five or six years old, I said,
you guys are gonna get on the internet. Now I've
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got two teenagers. They're obviously on the internet quite a bit.
Ten year olds on the internet too. They only get
their news, by the way, from YouTube and TikTok, which
is its own crazy worldview to think about. But I said,
you guys got a good choice. Now you can listen
to what people on the internet say about your dad,
good or bad. There's lots of good out there, there's
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lots of bad. You have public profile that happens, I said,
Or or you can decide what you think about your
dad based entirely on the fact that you see me
every day as your dad and.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
You live with me. Who do you think knows dad better?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You guys who actually live in the house with me,
or people writing about me on the internet. And I
think that's a good lesson in general for all of
us about public persona, about public perception. We build twenty
foot tall stories of what we think about people, and
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they're often six inches deep. The media can be powerful
in that way. They're like big paper mache creatures. They're
not steel. Oh that's one hundred feet tall, Old Donald Trump,
he's hitler. And then you actually explore it and you
push through and you're like, man, that's a mirage. There's
not even any substance behind it. I think that's the
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world in which we live. And that's why. And I'm
right thinking about this a lot because I was working
on my book over the weekend too.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's going to be out in November.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's why I think authenticity is all that really matters
in modern day because the younger a kid is with YouTube,
with TikTok, with everything else, they experience. They're not expecting
to agree with everything. They just want to know that
you are an authentic version of what you claim to be.
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Authenticity cancels, cancel culture. You can't cancel people who are
what you think they are. And that's where I feel protected.
I met a lot of different people over the weekend
as we were going around to these different events. I'm
really not any different face to face than I am
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on the radio with you or on television with you.
There is no difference between what I would say or think,
for better or worse, and what I would say on
the radio. Makes it hard to cancel me. And I
think it's what Trump has determined and why his overall
support has grown, particularly among young people, not because they
agree with everything he says. You should never agree with
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everything any politician says. Should never happen, but you should
respect that the politician is being honest with you about
what he or she believes, and as soon as you
find out that they are not, as soon as you
know that you are being directly lied to, you should
trust that person less. And we are filled our political
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universe with people who are just weird, not normal liars,
and a huge number of those people not just on
the left, but a huge number of them are There's
lots of people on the right with that perspective too.
But I think that is why Trump has grown his
support over the decade since he came down the escalator,
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because with young people, they've grown up with Trump and
he is what he puts forward in public to a
large extent, if you actually listen to what he says
and pay attention to what he does as opposed to
allowing other people to characterize what he does and says.
Nobody has ever been more transparent or more open in
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Buck is in I can France this week on the
French Riviera with all the big advertising community. I am
here with you in Washington, d C. Monday Tuesday Wednesday.
Then I'll be back in my hometown of Nashville to finish.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Out the week.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But a lot of news coming in massive amounts. I
talked about, off the top, the military parade, the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Army and how spectacular
it was. We talked about the No Kings rally and
the impact that that had, and how actually the two
protests should have just been one big celebration, because if
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you're truly excited that we don't have kings, the reason
we don't is because of the colonial army and because
we defeated the greatest power in the world at that
time England and became an independent country. I even talked
about how much of the I would say historical bastardization
of the American history has all been rolled into the
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way that the conversation is taking place, including by the way,
I don't know how many of you have paid attention
to this, but Los Angeles, which has emerged as the
epicenter of the anti priced, anti ice protest.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Have you noticed how people.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Are arguing, well, Los Angeles actually is Mexico. Have you
noticed that, well, los Angeles used to be Spanish territory,
it used to be Mexican territory, and therefore, why would
you not be waving Mexican flags? Do you just notice
that the indigenous people, the Native Americans, just don't matter
in that reading. It is funny how white Americans are
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always the bad guy. You can't just say, well, you know,
to a large extent, California was not very populated until
it became until gold was discovered. It's why we have
the San Francisco forty nine ers. Because the gold rush
that took place in California made California state in eighteen
fifty and so California has been a United States for
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one hundred and twenty five years or two. I have
more than that. Whatever the math is. I just tried
to do live math on the air, which is never
which is never great for me. Two hundred and I
don't know whatever eighteen fifty to twenty twenty five is.
That would be fifty plus whatever the math is. We
can't even claim California because now they're saying, well, it
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used to be Mexico or it used to be Spain.
So all of the land grants and everything else that
is supposedly so important to do it suddenly doesn't apply
as soon as people start waving the Mexican flag.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
And I don't know the answer.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
In Mexico, do they do all these land acknowledgments like
we do here.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Certainly there were Native American tribes in Mexico and all
over Latin America and everywhere else.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Do they do those. I have no idea if they
do them or not.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
But I do think it's interesting where you end up
up in a situation where America is the bad guy,
no matter what. One hundred and seventy years, by the way,
one hundred and seventy five years to be exact. I'm
doing the math on paper population increased in California. Some
of you may have seen me talking about this over
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the course of the weekend, because I think Gavin Newsom
has made the decision that he believes being opposed to
Trump makes him more of a favorite in twenty twenty five,
and so as he's running for the twenty twenty eight election,
which will start in twenty twenty seven as soon as
the midterm is over, he believes that ultimately beneficial to him.
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I think he's wrong, because I think Californians have started
to vote with their feet. And I know there are
many of you out there listening to me who live
all over the country now that we're born in California
or lived in California for a long time. Because the
interesting thing is the population in California from eighteen fifty
when it became a state, all the way up to
twenty twenty, that is one hundred and seventy years. For
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that entire timeframe, the population of California only increased because
in many ways, southern California in particular, is like America's
Garden of Eden. It really is a virtually perfect climate
to live in It's one of the few places in
the world where as some of you who are listening
to me in southern California know, you're like, yeah, I
(35:24):
could leave, but it's perfect. There are parts of Southern California.
I know this is staggering to a lot of people
where the homes don't even need air conditioning and they
don't even need heat. It's kind of crazy, that's how
perfect it is. I've said it before. I've spent a
lot of time in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
A lot of friends in Los Angeles only place I've
ever lived a decent amount of time where you can
walk out of a public building into the air and
it very often is the exact same temperature indoors and outdoors.
You know, we all set the temperature gauges to be
as comfortable as they possibly can be. LA is the
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only place I've lived, the only place I've spent a
lot of time where when you walk outside, you can't
even tell that you're walking outside. Like the doors open,
you walk outside, it's the same temperature indoors, outdoors. I
had my sons out in LA a couple of years ago.
You may remember, we got to go to Australia and
we had to fly through Los Angeles, got held up
(36:22):
there a little bit, and my son, my oldest son,
who had not spent that much time in California, certainly
not as a person who becomes aware of weather. It's
Father's Day, you know how your kids like, they don't
really have any clue about weather until they get to
be about thirteen or fourteen years old. Prior to that,
it's like whatever, the weather never matters to them unless
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they're waiting to see whether or not they're going to
get out of school for snow. He was standing around,
He's like, is the weather always like this? It was
December in La I'm like, yeah, that's pretty great. That's
the benefit that Gavin Newsom has. They live in the
Garden of Eden, but they have destroyed it in many ways,
and it's because of the poor choices that they have
made that have stacked up over time. Now, I told
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you that I wanted to connect what has been going
on the protest. It's one big story, the protests that
have been going on against Israel and against Jewish people
in the wake of October seventh. This is not me
making this up. I was even reading it I think
it was a Sunday New York Times had a huge graphic.
(37:30):
Two percent of the United States population is Jewish. Jewish
people in the United States, it is off the charts
likely that they will become victims of hate crimes. No
one else is even close. And that has accelerated to
a level that we have never seen in most of
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our lives in the United States since October seventh. And
if you are unable to understand that we are in
a battle for good versus evil, and Israel is firmly
on the side of good, and many of Israel's foes
are on the side of evil. And Israel's predominant foe
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in the Middle East is Iran. That doesn't mean that
the Iranian people are evil. Most of the Iranian people
hate their leadership. This is what Benjamin Netanyahu said about this.
It's important to remember Iran was trying to kill Donald Trump.
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They shared videos celebrating the idea of killing Donald Trump.
Iran hates Donald Trump. If you are a Trump voter,
here is Benjamin Netan Yahoo telling you Trump.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Is enemy number one of.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Iran because he supports freedom, and he supports freedom in
the Middle East for everyone listen to cut twelve.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
These people who chant death to America, try to assassinate
President Trump twice, killed two hundred and forty one of
your marines in Beirut, killed and injured thousands of American
soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq. Try to bomb a restaurant
in Washington, DC. Chat death to America, burn the American flag.
Do you want these people to have nuclear weapons and
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the means to deliver them to your cities? Of course not.
So we're defending ourselves, but we're also defending the world.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I want to talk about the nuclear threat, and I
want to talk about President Trump. You just said Ron
tried to assassinate President Trump twice. Do you have intel
that the assassination attempts on President Trump were directly from Iran.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Through proxies, Yes, through their intel. Yes, they want to
kill and look, he's enemy number one.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Okay, that's Brett Baher sit down. Credit to Brett Behar,
who now I think is the foremost American interviewing journalist newsbreaker,
and I'm not even sure who close second is. So
Brett Bayer talking to net Yahoo there about the fact
that Trump was tried to be assassinated twice. Now this
just happened. There continuing to be attacks again. We were
scheduled to have Amrohana, who is the speaker of Kanessa,
(40:10):
on to talk directly with all of you. We will
get him at some point this week, but he had
to cancel because of the ongoing strikes. Will play a
cut from him in just a moment for you. But
this just happened. As I was coming into the studio,
Iranian state propaganda television was discussing the attacks and they
(40:33):
were actually hit Israeli's uh have Iran. Iranians have been
told for two generations that they're gonna wipe Israel off
the face of the earth. Within a couple of days,
everything that Iran's been spinning on their military was out
the window, and Israel now has complete air dominance over
all of Iran. They are striking military targets, They're strike
(40:55):
striking propaganda targets. This is what it sounded like if
you were watching state television on Iran. It has echoes
of Baghdad Bob back in the day.
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Listen Khan sada Ye Motejotan, Sady Moya, Happo happy gatas
Antmola has a Charadi sadahanid Faso Yegoboro.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
That was Iranian state sponsored propaganda TV. They can't even
stay on to keep their propaganda going. That is how weak,
that is how impotent the Ayatola's leadership has become. Here
is a Miro Ohanna, who was scheduled to join us earlier,
speaking in English and giving you the latest update. I
believe he's talking to the Iranian people. Here, listen to.
Speaker 7 (41:51):
The people of Iran. In recent days, Israel has taken
defensive measures against the Islamic Republic, a regime that ford
has oppressed you, the Iranian people, and spread terror across
the region. These actions are directed solely at the regime,
never at the Iranian people, who have long been its
(42:12):
greatest victims. For forty six years, the stomach Republic has
robbed the Iranians of freedom, prosperity, and dignity.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Yeat.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
The Iranian people are among the most gifted and capable
in the world. Irani is rich not only in culture
and history, but also in natural resources and human talent.
It should be one of the most prosperous nations on Earth.
Without this regime holding you back. There is no limit
to what you can achieve Irankan once again become a
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beacon of civilization as it was for centuries.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
All Right, that's a mire, Ohana. We'll talk to him
later this week directly addressing the Iranian people, and I hope,
and we'll talk about this a bit more during the
course of this hour. I hope that the Iranian people
are going to rise up and overthrow the Ayatolas and
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stability around the world. It should happen. I am hopeful
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I do think this is an argument that we should
allow on the program. I think we should allow basically
every argument on the program because marketplace of is how
we get to better results.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Doesn't mean that you're always going to agree on everything.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Doesn't even mean that every single one of you is
always going to agree with everything single thing I say
or Buck says, but I do think, as the situation
in Iran has deteriorated over the past several decades of
the Ayatola's leadership, that their pursuit of nuclear weapons does,
in my opinion, directly impact many of our safety and
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security here in the United States. And Aaron Wexler has
made a persuasive case that that is correct. So let
me start with a tough one for you, Aaron, I
asked Dave Rubin this in the second hour. Do you
think that Israel should take out the Aya Tolas? Should
they go ahead and finish the job, or do you
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cross your fingers and hope that the Iranian people rise
up against the Aya Tolas and if they don't have
to negotiate with them going forward. What's the right result
now that the raids that the attacks have begun.
Speaker 8 (45:58):
Well, I think the author should be great to do
with you, Clay, but I think the only option for
Israel is to decisively win what they have now start.
It has now what they've started, but the attacks against
Ron need to be conclusively, decisively finished, And so yes,
I do believe it means taking the Iatolas out. I
do not think that Pinky promises from the Iatola of
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not building and not expanding their nuclear program is something
we should be trusting. And to the point of the
Iranian people rising up, I mean, we've seen for decades
that they have protests, that they have risked their lives.
But it is difficult to overthrow a government, and so
I think the only option really is to cut the
head off the snake.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Okay, So people out there who may be listening to
us and disagreeing, they would say, why do we think
that who we replace, that is, let's say that the
Iotolas get swept out, why do we think that what
replaces the Iatolas will be better?
Speaker 8 (46:54):
It's hard to get much worse than where we are
right now. But I would say when it comes to
the Iranian people, these are deeply pro Western people. Of course,
you are going to have Iranian people who are sympathetic
to the IRGC, But in general, we have seen you know,
I would pull up a lot of leftists in America
for people in Iran. These women are brave, they show
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their hair, they get beaten in the street and a
lot oftentimes killed. So I think we have seen a
resilience in the Iranian people, and you know, the Persian
culture is something that is very elevated and very motivated,
and I think we could see a real flourishing in
the Middle East if the Iranian people could be who
they were before the Iotolas.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Okay, so I agree with a lot of that, but
I'm going to keep pushing you with tough questions because
you're smart and I think you're going to have good answers,
but also because again a lot of these are criticisms
that I would be hearing from people who are listening
right now. A lot of people, I would say, are
adopting an isolationist America first philosophy, and they say, why
should I care at all what happens in the Middle East,
(47:58):
This is not America's battle, shouldn't be involved in any
way you would respond how I.
Speaker 8 (48:04):
Would say, I'm also America first, but I think there's
a real myopia happening right now with what America first means.
Somehow we've decided that America first means America alone, and
I don't know how we came to that definition, and
there's something incredibly simplistic about that, but there seems to
be a majrik reaction that's simply because another country has
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an interest, we must automatically oppose that interest as if
we cannot have aligning, aligning interests with other countries. That
makes no sense to me that that's not compatible with
so much of our history. And in this case, because
it happens to the Israel and there's a lot of
sentiment against Israel in the country right now, people have
decided that Iran is the good guy. That is where
we are in this logic. So, you know, the idea
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of America First, we've seen President Trump have to take
it back and almost redefine it back to what he
meant it to be originally. So a lot of this
movement that's, you know, spamming the internet with America First,
know new wars, they're actually directly at oz with what
President Trump defines that to be. And so, yes, America
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First should not mean America alone. And I very much
believe that a country that chance in their parliamentary session
and when their presidents are sworn in, when they chant
death to America, when this is what they teach their
children on children's programs, when we have seen through the
decades that they will attack American soldiers, how is this
not anti American? When they call us big Satan. I
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don't understand how not wanting those types of people with
nuclear capability. I do not see how that is not America.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
First truth of the matter is this, there's a segment
of the right that is anti Semitic. There is a
big segment of the left that is anti Semitic. This
has led to rise in anti semitism the likes of
which many of us have not seen. One of the attacks.
I'm sure it's in my mentions right now, Aaron. We're
talking to Aaron Wexler. Encourage you to go follow her. Aaron,
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one of the attacks that will be in my mentions
right now, I bet as I am talking to you,
is that the Jews own me. I am not Jewish.
By the way, in case any of you are aware, Aaron,
do you think that the Jews own me, or own buck,
or in any way are influencing our opinions based on money?
This is an anti Semitic attack, but I think it's
important I'll put it out there.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Do you believe it?
Speaker 8 (50:23):
Do I think you are owned by the Jews? No,
that'd be incredibly convenient for us. I love when people
would love to say that we control the media, the
media that loves to hate us. I mean, I think
the press around the Jews would be so much better
if you were actually in control. So no, that is
absolutely crazy. And I would say that Katari money is
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what people think Jewish money is in America.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
It's an interesting argument. And look, I feel fortunate. I've
said this before, but I do think some people say,
I don't know why, just for people out there, why
you would say that you have wealth. I'm talking about myself.
I don't have to work. I think that matters. I
think it was beneficial for Trump because it's harder to
buy people who don't have to work. I mean, this
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is the reality. Elon Musk came out and actually addressed
it directly. People said, oh, you're being bought and paid for,
and he said, actually, no one can afford to buy
and pay me enough because he's so wealthy. Now I'm
not Elon Musk wealthy, but I can say comfortably for
everybody out there, there is no one who can afford
to pay me because I don't have to work now.
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But I do think that arguments out there, the way
that you pivoted on it is significant. There's substantial money
out there. Rolling in from Middle East, from Jewish interest,
from Saudi Arabian interest, from Katari interest. I mean that's
how frankly, I think Katar got the World Cup was
they bought it. Saudi Arabia's got the World Cup in
twenty thirty six, they bought it. But I actually think
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it's an interesting angle here, the thing that actually should
unite us. And I'm curious if you would buy Aaron
And I think this is why Trump has had some
success in the Middle East is he's not leading with religion.
He's leading with commerce and capitalism and the idea of
business first, for all the Muslims in the Middle East,
for all the Jews in the Middle East, to the
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extent that there is much of a Christian population in
the Middle East. The ability to embrace capitalism and have
more successful economic liberation lifts everyone without getting into the
nuance of the difference in religion. I think that's why
Trump has had some success.
Speaker 8 (52:33):
Do you buy that, Yes, I think that's definitely part
of it. Also, to your point on not being bought,
we saw a risk between Donald Trump and Elon Musk,
the wealthiest man in the world, who at some parts
of his tweets essentially was insinuating, I peede a lot
for you to win the presidency. I would like to
be listened to. And Donald Trump said, I'm sorry, I
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cannot be bought. And actually, and this is something I
wrote about in an article on my substat to subjac
dot com plus Aaron Wexler. Actually sorry plas Aaron, that
was my to say, but you can find me also
on Twitter at Aaron Wexler and I have this spread there.
I talk about the fact that even the left knows
that Trump cannot be bought. That's actually why they hate
him so much, because Donald Trump cannot be bought. So
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everything the man is doing right now in office is
because that's what he wants to do, that's what he believes.
And right now we're seeing a massive splintering, I think,
probably the first major splintering within the MAGA movement since
its inception, over everything that's happening with Iran. Because Donald
Trump promised us we would not have.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
A nuclear Iran.
Speaker 8 (53:33):
That will not be his legacy and that is why
he is helping his role right now.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah, and I think this is actually important. First of all,
Trump has said publicly nobody else can define what America
First means because I'm the leader and I decided like
I've made the arguments about America First. But I do
think to the extent that there is a disagreement or
splintering in some way on the right about how Iran
should be handled. Do we want and this is my
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argument I just tweeted about it. In an ideal world,
we would have kept Kim Jong un in North Korea
from getting a nuclear weapon. It is the danger, I
would argue, is of anybody that has nuclear weapons leaving
a side terrorist getting them or something like that. A
state having nuclear weapons. Kim Jong Un is the most
dangerous right now person with access to nuclear weapons. I
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think most people out there, regardless of politics, would agree
with that. Do we want Kim Jong Un in the
Middle East with a religious focused fervor underpinning the desire
to have nuclear weapons? That seems like a really bad
idea to me for America and the rest of the world.
And that is why, on a purely rational basis, I
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think it is in direct American interest to keep a
crazy religious group from having access to nuclear weapons. That
seems like an easy argument to make. I'm surprised so
many are missing it.
Speaker 8 (54:56):
Yeah. Well, I'd like to say two things so that
The first is on the comparison with Kim Jong un.
Kim Jong Un is poor. He's poor.
Speaker 6 (55:03):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (55:04):
They do not have money in North Korea. Iran has oil.
They have money from themselves, from Qatar, from Joe Biden.
They actually have There's a lot of damage that they
can inflict if they have nuclear disability. That's one thing.
The second thing I want to address is and this
is something I'm seeing from a lot of people on
these so calls right where they love talking about the
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price of oil if we go to war. They love
talking about what it looks like if Israel strikes by
the way Israel stroke and the world is still spinning,
and oil, you know, gas isn't twenty dollars a gallon,
and all the things they warned us about probably being
paid by guitar or to posts have not happened. But
none of them can describe to us what does it
look like if Iran actually gets nuclear weapons? What does
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it look like for America? What does it look like
for gas? What does it look like for trade? What
happens to the Strait of Hormus if Iran has nuclear weapons,
right the oil choke point of the world. You want
a nuclear Iran in charge of the oil choke point
of the world. That is apttely preposterous. And I have
not seen a single personality and I'll call it personality
not authority on Twitter actually explaining what it looks like
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if that happens.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, I think that's super important.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I also would just point out that twenty four years
ago they flew planes into our buildings based on a misguided,
bastardized version of what religion should look like according to
these crazy Muslim terrorists, right the Ayatolas having nuclear weapons,
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the idea that they're going to in some way be
rational in the way that they use them, based on
the history of what we have seen when it comes
to Islamic fundamentalist terrorism, It's crazy to me that anybody
would even be arguing, hey, it's going to be okay,
we should just stay out of this and let them
get nuclear weapons.
Speaker 6 (56:57):
Yes.
Speaker 8 (56:57):
Well, well, this assumption that's coming from so much of
the right right now is assuming that it's possible for
us to negotiate with good faith actors as if they're
you know, Putin's an evil eye he is. He is
rational and predictable. And you know, when you talk about
international security and like all those theories, right, like you're
(57:17):
actually dealing with a highly rational actor. When we talk
about Iran, there is a fanaticism, a radicalism with religion
that I think a lot of Americans really just can't understand.
They refuse to acknowledge it. Really, it just makes no
sense for them to assume that we can deal with
someone as if rail politique is something that is possible
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within that conversation. They will not be pragmatic. It will
not work with the Ayatolas.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
I think that's right. I appreciate the time.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
I want people to be able to follow your work
because you're smart, funny, and I think connecting with many
different people out there who may not be connecting with
your sort of rational thought unfortunately on Instagram or TikTok
or wherever else it is. Let me give you those channels,
and why do you think it's so important to be
speaking on those channels. A lot of people millions listening
(58:06):
to this radio show, A lot of people watch Fox News,
but traditional media otherwise, for younger people, very much is collapsing.
Speaker 8 (58:14):
Yeah, No, I appreciate that Clay, thanks for having me on.
Everyone can find me at Aaron Westler. It is a
tough name. It is Aryne w x l e R.
I did not come up with my first name. I've
actually had it in first, so I can't take credit
or and you can't blame me for that spelling.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Do you blame your parents for spelling Aaron that way?
Is this a unique Jewish spelling of Aaron? I've never
seen it before.
Speaker 8 (58:35):
God, it's like, let's have a therapy session for twenty seconds. No,
my parents wanted to name me Erin for some reason.
Aar Owen is a boy's name. Arn is Catholic, and
they thought that's confusing. What I guess they didn't think
was confusing was naming me but giving me a spelling
that looks like the Aryan race as a Jewish woman.
So I get hated by everyone and I confuse everybody.
And some people also think it's a kind of black spelling,
(58:57):
which is also fun. So I confuse the less because
they think I'm ethnic and they can't really say anything
against me. So hopefully that explanation will help you all
remember how to sell it, which is Rynny. And yeah,
I think it's really important to speak, especially to people
who are on Instagram and Twitter, which are my main platforms,
because most people have TikTok bring these days a lot
like you mentioned. I mean, I don't even have Peoble
(59:19):
News in my own house. So a lot of people
in my generation are not watching mainstream media, and it's
important that we still make sure they are seeing seeing
fast and getting other opinions other than the left.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Thank you, Eric.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
By the way, I was with a friend group over
the weekend and I was sitting with a dad. He
had his twenty one year old daughter and his seventeen
year old daughter there, so we had a big table
and she asked me how she could find the show.
She had never listened to a show on I mean,
(59:52):
I just thought it was really crazy, But I understand
for people out there who are listening to us right now.
You've been listening to radio your whole life. This twenty
one year old girl, college girl, was like, so, how
does that work? Exactly, Like, she doesn't have a car,
she rides around in ubers By and large like the
idea of how to get radio it was I was
having to explain I just anyway, there are a lot
of people out there like that that are super active
(01:00:14):
on TikTok, super active on Instagram, but are not necessarily
going to be listening to a show like this.
Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
So thank you, Ari, thanks so much. Play a great
to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Look, Israel at war with Iran right now, and we're
going to talk and continue to talk about this and
why I think it's so significant to me. It's directly
connected to what happened on October seven, twenty twenty three,
and the brutal attack that Hamas launched to try to
propagate war. I think for generations to come in Israel,
and I traveled over there, I saw for my own eyes.
(01:00:44):
I think it's important to call out good, it's important
to call out evil, and it's important to understand what
exactly is going on. And there are a lot of
people out there that are in bomb shelters right now.
Israel is not a profoundly wealthy country. Top to bottom.
There's lots of work, lots of bomb shelters that need
to be made available for more, lots of protected cars,
lots of schools that need to be protected from the
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bombs that are reigning down. You know, this is crazy.
I never seen anything like it. When I was touring Israel.
They have to cover the elementary schools in many parts
of the country in concrete roofs that are built as
different parts, just to protect in the event that a
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missile might arrive. Imagine living in America, where our elementary
schools had to be built with bomb proof roofs because
you never knew when a bomb might come. Why the
kids are in school. That's what they live with in
Israel because so many people, unfortunately are trying to kill
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Jewish people just for being Jewish.
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Every day.
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The IFCJ pushes back against it. The International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews. Western civilization matters. You can help stand
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I've seen the incredible work they do. See it for
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