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June 19, 2025 48 mins

Clay Travis sets the stage by reflecting on a memorable viral moment from the White House, using it as a springboard for a series of cutting-edge political and cultural discussions. He launches into a robust critique of mainstream media commentary—specifically calling out figures like Whoopi Goldberg—arguing that their comparisons between the challenges faced by certain groups in the United States and the conditions under repressive regimes like Iran misrepresent the realities of global human rights. Clay highlights how restrictive policies abroad, such as severe limitations on women's rights in Iran, sharply contrast with the broad freedoms and economic opportunities available in America. He underscores that the nation's high standard of living, democratic principles, and vibrant sports culture serve as clear indicators of its successful model of freedom and opportunity.

Clay then critiques a viral moment from The View, where Whoopi Goldberg controversially compared the experiences of Black Americans to women in Iran. He uses this to highlight the dangers of victimhood narratives and the erosion of national pride in American discourse.

A major focus of this hour is the Supreme Court’s 6-3 decision upholding Tennessee’s ban on gender transition procedures for minors. Clay strongly supports the ruling, arguing that children are not mature enough to make irreversible medical decisions. He contrasts this with legal standards that prevent minors from getting tattoos or being held fully accountable for crimes. Clay challenges liberal justices like Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor, questioning how they can support juvenile leniency in criminal justice while endorsing life-altering medical procedures for teens.

Clay reflects on American exceptionalism. Clay contrasts past presidential messages of hope and opportunity—from Ronald Reagan to Barack Obama—with today’s nihilistic rhetoric. He warns that the belief in a fundamentally broken America is undermining ambition and mental health, especially among young people.

Guest Joey Jones, a decorated Marine Corps veteran and Fox News contributor, joins the show to discuss his new book, Behind the Badge: Answering the Call to Serve on America’s Home Front. Jones shares insights from first responders across the country and reflects on his own military service. He also weighs in on the Iran situation, emphasizing the importance of clear objectives in any military engagement and expressing confidence in President Trump’s strategic approach.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show Happy
June Team. It was a year ago at a celebration
on the White House the lawn that went megaviral of
Joe Biden freezing that I've already shared with all of
you from my Twitter account. If you haven't and can't

(00:22):
remember where we were a year ago, rejoice. We have
come a long way America in one year, from a
president standing on the south lawn of the White House
completely unaware of what was going on during a supremely
awkward concert at the White House to Donald Trump ruling

(00:43):
the country in a fabulous manner through the first half
of his four year term. First half of the first
year of his four year term, we will give you
the absolute latest on Iran and Israel. We will dive
into many of the biggest stories of the Because I
am working, and I bet a lot of you are working.

(01:03):
I am back home in Nashville. Had an amazing time
up in Washington, DC, met so many of you. Appreciate
Senator Haggerty's office for allowing my son to be an
intern up there. He had an incredible time. Congress is
out today and they are out tomorrow. Is my understanding,
which is why we are back, because why celebrate Juneteenth

(01:25):
for one day when you could celebrate it for two
and be paid by the American taxpayer to do so.
Welcome to your government now, I bet most of you
are not taking Juneteenth off. But I did think that
we should honor Juneteenth as one would by playing what
went megaviral. We shared it with you yesterday on the

(01:47):
social media accounts. When you actually dive in to the view,
I would maintain that it is the dumbest program that
has ever been allowed to appear daily on television for
some time, and the arguments just keep getting more ridiculous.
So there was a discussion. I want to give credit

(02:08):
to one of the ladies on the view, Alisa Fara
Griffin has family of Iranian descent. I believe her father
is Iranian. I could be wrong on that, guys, will
you check that in the studio, but she has a
connection to Iran and in her family background, and they
were discussing freedoms for women in Iran, and just to

(02:33):
reinforce in case you are not aware, in Iran women
have to a large extent no human rights at least
comparable to what would exist in the West, for instance,
and I believe they've only changed this recently. Women were
not even allowed to go watch the Iranian soccer team play.

(02:57):
The Iranian soccer stadium only allowed men to go watch soccer. Now,
this is a big deal. Soccer is a huge sport
all over the world, but the most popular sport in Iran.
Women weren't allowed to go in there. Sounds somewhat ridiculous,
but that is true. I think they now allow a
handful of women into the stadium. I think they have

(03:17):
progressed there. You can be beaten and arrested if you
are not covered correctly as you walk the streets of Iran.
There have been protests from women who say, hey, can
we just not have to wear a hijab? Can we
just uncover our hair? Can we allow our faces to
be seen? And the religious police will walk around in

(03:40):
Iran and arrest and or beat women who defy dress
codes all over the country. So whatever you think of
life in America, women comparably have it pretty good here.
And honestly, this was one of my biggest issues with
the Megan Rapinos on the US women's soccer team, you know,

(04:01):
for the Women's World Cup. You can basically pick every
winner just by analyzing human rights in the country, because
while our women go on the nash international stage and
rip America, the reason why our women are super talented
at soccer is because they can wear shorts and they

(04:23):
have basic human rights. Is it a surprise that the
women who have the most human rights would also be
the best at athletics. And also this speaks to the
incredible wealth of America because in general, it is a
luxury to be able to put your kids into sports

(04:44):
and allow them to develop as athletes. Most really athletic
men get noticed and can have success around the world
because male athletics is still a moneymaker to a large
extent in much of the world, women athletics to a
large extent is not in most of the world. And
so it is an incredible sign of both human rights

(05:08):
and the wealth of this nation that we have tens
of millions of girls who are playing elite level soccer
in this country. And so I wish that the US
women's soccer team when they're on the global stage, instead
of denigrating the United States and refusing to go visit
the White House after they won the World Cup in
twenty nineteen and Trump was in office. I wish they

(05:30):
had said, hey, we may not agree on every political
issue in the United States, but what we certainly agree
on is women should be able to compete at the
absolute highest level of athletics. And the reason why we're
having success on the global stage is actually a reflection
of America's embrace of human rights, and we wish women
around the world had the same rights that women have

(05:50):
in the United States. That's a really strong argument. I
think it would have been compelling. I think that there
would have been a lot of little girls all over
the world who heard that and were even more aspirational
to be great at sports, but also to look up
to the United States women who are great at sports
and could be their role models. Going for instead, Meghan

(06:11):
Rapino said, Hey, if you're a man and you want
to play women soccer, I think you should be able
to do so. She lifted the latter, not unlike what
we just saw some own biles do in her tweet
at Riley Gains. Okay, so they're discussing how life is
in Iran. Alissa Fara Griffin, who directly knows how the
women of Iran are treated based on her family's background,

(06:35):
is trying to make the point that Israel has basic
human rights. And in fact, I haven't heard very many
people react to this. But you know, one of the
things that they had to cancel in Israel because of
all the missiles coming in from Iran the Pride March.
The Pride March Israel, I believe, is the only country

(06:55):
in the entire Middle East that would even have a
Pride march because gay people otherwise get thrown off the
roofs of buildings and beheaded in many different Middle Eastern countries,
which is why Gays for Gaza is one of the
dumbest American political arguments of all time. But they were
trying to have a conversation about that, and whoope, Goldberg

(07:17):
took it over and said she doesn't think black people
in America have it better than the average woman in Iran.
This was actually what ABC aired yesterday, play the cut.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think it's very different in the United States in
twenty twenty five than it is to live in around
you're black, not for everybody, not every black.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Let me tell you about being in this country. This
is the greatest country in the world. But yeah, I
know that I know that, and we all know that.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
But every day we are worried.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Do we have to be worried about our kids? Are
their kids going to get shot because they're running through
somebody's neighbor.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Nobody wants to diminish them. Very real problems we have
in this country's intent. It's important we remember there are
places much darker than this country and people who deserve right.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Everybody feels that way, not everybody feels that way. Listen,
I'm sorry. You know when you think about the fact
that we were we got the vote in nineteen sixty.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Five, you can Okay, they don't have free and fair
elections in Iran.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's not even the same universe. They can't go out
of their house.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
There's no way I can make you understand.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
There's no way I can make you understand because you're
a moron. Whoopee Goldberg. You make eight million dollars a
year to go on a show, to not do basic research,
to have no idea how things are around the rest
of the world. To compare how black people live in
America in twenty twenty five with how women live in

(08:50):
Iran in twenty twenty five, is so brain dead that honestly,
I think that the view has become so toxic for
just its stupidity that ABC News has to be looking
around how much money could they possibly make off this
show versus how much brand equity are they losing. I

(09:13):
just can't believe that anyone could be this dumb. And
by the way, it's not just Whoopy Goldberg. There are
lots of people all over the United States who have
no conception for how good we all have it in
this country. And I really do wish a part of
me does that every American had to spend two years

(09:37):
sort of like the Mormon Mission. A lot of you
out there listening in Utah. You're part of your religious faith.
Your kids will go on a two year mission. They
don't know where they're going to go all over the world.
If we had two years of service required for every
American teenager at eighteen years old, and you had to

(09:57):
go to a third world country and actually try to
make that third world country better, and you had to
live there, and you had to see how people in
that country lived. When you got on an airplane and
you came back here, you would kiss the ground when
you stepped off that airplane. There is no conception, by

(10:19):
and large among huge populations in the United States of
how incredibly fortunate we all are to live here. Does
not mean that the United States is perfect. No country
created by humans in the history of mankind has ever
been perfect. But if you had to choose right now,
there's a great analogy that Warren Buffett has says, if

(10:41):
you want to contemplate, I think it's such a good one.
If you want to contemplate how you should feel relative
to the rest of the world, Imagine that there was
a huge vase and there were seven billion marbles in it.
It's roughly the population of the world, not one peron
in the United States. And if you drew a marble

(11:03):
out of that seven billion, not one person in the
entire United States should ever risk changing places. Right It's
a great analogy. If your kids are out there, if
they don't understand gratitude, one of the most powerful emotions
there is. If you had to take a marble out
of that seven billion, and you changed places with whatever

(11:27):
marble you drew, not one person in the United States
should ever make that trade, because the chances are that
you would go to a vastly inferior country with vastly
less human rights and economic resources. And so when I

(11:49):
see people like Whoopi Goldberg, who are making millions of
dollars a year, who have become fabulously wealthy, arguing that
the average black person in America is somehow in worse
place than the women of Iran and even the men,
it is so incomprehensibly dumb that I think ABC News

(12:10):
should be looking at a show like that and saying, boy,
I know it's called The View, but we should have
a standard of basic intelligence, and our show hasn't met it.
Send Whoopi Goldberg to do the show from the average
country in the third world and make her live like

(12:30):
the people do there. First of all, she wouldn't do it,
But I do think it would be important and clarifying
in many ways to actually know of which you are speaking,
as opposed to trying to denigrate and pull down the
app But I do think it would be important and

(12:50):
clarifying in many ways to actually know of which you
are speaking, as opposed to trying to denigrate and pull
down the aspirations, hopes and realities of so many young
people that might be watching that show and believe her
that they have no chance for success and then want
to marinate in the idea of their own victimization because

(13:12):
they aren't aware of how truly fortunate they are no
matter what your background is to live in the United
States of America today, So happy Juneteenth. I wanted to
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Speaker 1 (14:51):
A couple of news stories that are out there as
we are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program,
The juneteenth edition of the pro By the way, am
I the only person that thinks maybe June sixth d
Day should be a national holiday. If you had to

(15:14):
think about what day would better represent the Greatest Generation
and their fight for human rights around the world. June sixth,
nineteen forty four. Making June sixth a national holiday would
make a great deal of sense to me, way more

(15:35):
than June teenth. Candidly, I don't think our federal government
in general needs a lot more holidays, but I do
think holidays that bring everybody together the Greatest Generation being
celebrated nationwide on June sixth. I know we have Memorial Day,
I know we have Veterans Day, I know we have
July fourth. There are a lot of different days of celebration,

(16:00):
but June sixth is such I think an iconic day
in American history. And while there are still some members
of that battle, some veterans that fought on that day,
I think it would be a really incredibly gratifying and

(16:23):
worthwhile day to make a holiday where everybody can sit
around and think about what those men did on that day,
and so we could see actual bravery, and maybe it
would push back against the idea that unfortunately has taken
root in America where everybody who disagrees with me as

(16:44):
a Nazi, everybody who disagrees with me as Adolf Hitler.
I think it would actually be incredibly profoundly symbolic and
important statement that we could make, but we are dealing
instead Juneteenth. We've been talking about National Service, its impacts,

(17:05):
just having perspective, gratitude, understanding how fortunate we all are,
regardless of our backgrounds, to be Americans. A lot of
you weighing in with that. We're reacting to the viral
clip of wif Vy Goldberg saying black people in America
don't have it better than they do and than women
do in Iran, which is such a crazy, outlandish, outrageous,

(17:27):
indefensible argument to be making that. It's staggering to me
that that show the view which basically exists just to
have all those crazy things happen. But a couple of
news stories that are out there for those of you
have kids, grandkids, maybe it's you as well. Maybe it's
Buck when he's learning his newest dance. Donald Trump has
extended for ninety days a order that he has put

(17:50):
in place that would allow TikTok to be sold. It
has not yet been sold. That has moved off obviously
of the front pages the story surrounding that, but that
is that is going on. Also, there is continued talk
about some form of peace agreement that could be entered into.

(18:13):
Earlier this morning, Iran hit a hospital in Israel. Damage
was significant, and the debate over whether the United States
should get involved in bombing the Iran nuclear site that
is built into the side of a mountain with our
big bunker buster bomb that is a tough phrase to

(18:35):
hit continues with a variety of different stories surrounding that.
But I don't know how many of you saw this
last night, but it struck me. We talked yesterday with
the Attorney General of Tennessee about the six' to three
ruling that came down allowing The state Of tennessee to

(18:59):
not minors to be receiving these gender transition. Treatments. Right
in my, opinion they're, barbaric particularly for young. Children if
you're an adult and you want to have a cosmetic
procedure that makes you, happier you think will make you,
HAPPIER i think that is at least a choice you can.
Make but AS i said in that argument, yesterday we

(19:22):
don't even let kids get tattoos because we recognize a
lot of times kids make choices that they wish they
wouldn't have. Made and probably the tattoo that your average
kid would get when he was fourteen or she would
get when she was, fourteen would be very different in
terms of what they might, want even if you'd want

(19:42):
a tattoo at all at twenty, four thirty, four forty.
Four and so we, say, hey you can't get tattoos
until you're at least over. Eighteen and so it seems
to me that the logic of, hey you shouldn't be
able to chop your penis off or you shouldn't be
able to chop your boobs, off that that would actually
ma and have some. Cogency in, FACT i was thinking

(20:05):
about this even more With Judge Elena Supreme Court Justice.
KAGAN i was thinking about it in the context of minor,
crimes meaning minors who commit. Crimes we are so of
the opinion that kids under eighteen shouldn't be responsible for

(20:26):
all the choices that they, make that you can commit
a crime as a, juvenile and we wipe it clean
because we basically have decided as a, Society, hey sometimes
you shouldn't be held accountable for the choice you made
when you were sixteen for the rest of your. Life
and so we will clear juvenile crime. Records, now sometimes

(20:48):
the juvenile crimes can be so significant that juveniles are
tried as. Adults, yes there are varying degrees of that which.
Occur but if as a society we have decided fifteen
and sixteen year olds shouldn't even be held accountable sometimes
oftentimes most times for the crimes that they, commit and

(21:10):
we will wipe them. Clean And Judge kagan is a
strong advocate of that. Perspective how can she simultaneously argue
that fifteen year old should be able to irreversibly change
their body and potentially sterilize. THEMSELVES i would love For Judge,
kagan WHO i think is actually, intelligent to try and

(21:34):
explain that to me and to all of. You AND
i was thinking about that. YESTERDAY i had like a
four hour delay on my flight back FROM, dc SO
i was doing a lot of. READING i was doing
a lot of. Thinking and some of you may have
seen the tweet THAT i put. Out it was a six'
to three decision yesterday that the State of tennessee had
the ability to restrict miners from having these gender surgeries

(21:57):
which could be so destructive for them as adults that
were not going to allow it in my home STATE
where i am right Now, at tennessee and it was six'
three and a lot of, people were saying how is
this not? Nine to zero and it's not coincidental that
the three liberals were in descent. On THIS case but

(22:18):
i did think it was interesting that two of, The
three Liberals Kagan and soda mayor, don't have kids and
that if for people, who raised kids it was. Six
'in one these decisions. Shouldn't BE made and i, was

(22:38):
thinking about You remember when Judge sawt of mayor said
maybe we need a wise Latina On. The supreme court
you remember that when she was arguing that her identity
in some way was going to make her, a better
judge WHICH in general i think is. Mostly NOT true but,
i did think isn't that kind of interesting that the

(22:59):
only parent that voted in favor of kids being able
to have These Surgeries Was, katanji brown jackson that otherwise
the Parents On the supreme, court said yeah we're not
going to allow. This to happen it was two oh

(23:21):
from women who don't have children saying that kids should
have the right to alter their bodies in a way
that could leave them sterile at fourteen or fifteen years
old and it Was Six' one katanji brown jackson was the, only,
PARENT who, said hey i disagree and kids shouldn't be.

(23:42):
Able to DO this and yesterday i was kind of
having it making a joke about how my middle son
Believed he was a jedi and dressed up Like he
was a jedi and, he had a braid but we
didn't actually Think. He was a jedi and probably at,
some point in time by the way, my middle undressed
up he wanted to be. Somebody different every day some

(24:03):
days he wanted. To be a ninja, he basically was
great super fun kid, when he was young but every
day For. Him was like halloween some days he wanted.
To be a pirate he would wake up every day
And be Like. Today i'm, a, ninja we're like okay
you're gonna go throw some throwing stars And they Say
today i'm, a, jedi and say okay well you're gonna

(24:24):
Be Dressed. Up like luke Skywalker. And he liked anakin
he Even had the Fake Anakin scar for star. Wars
people out there every day he dressed up and he
wanted to be a. Different kind of person my youngest
kid actually had, tons of imaginary friends and sometimes we

(24:45):
want mom and dad to have conversations. With the imaginary
friends and maybe out there you've got kids who wanted
to be dinosaurs or superheroes. Or whatever, They Were. Hey Mom,
I'm Batman. Hey mom, I'm superman, Hey Man Hey. Mom
i'm tyrannosaurus rex or maybe you got daughters and they dressed, up,
And they said hey i'm a PRINCESS today or today

(25:06):
I Want, to be, princess jasmine and tomorrow For, those
OF you aladdin tomorrow I want to be mona or whatever.
The different, princess says princesses. Are it's not real and
probably you had kids who woke up the morning after

(25:27):
their birthday, party, and you said hey what do you want?
To have for breakfast and they. Were like, BIRTHDAY cake
you're like i don't think you're going to get. Birthday
cake for breakfast kids make choices all the time that are,
not ROOTED in rationality and, i think most parents Including Those,

(25:48):
on the supreme court understand that a huge part of
being a parent is sometimes protecting kids from the choices
that they would make, when they were young because they
aren't well developed enough mentally to understand the consequences of
some of the. Choices. That they're making nah, in My

(26:08):
own parenting which, i'm far from perfect but we've tried
to keep our, kids off social media and that's PARTLY because,
of what i do until they're at least in their
teenage years and they just want to, chase girls on
there which. Is its own problem but, because so many
kids they go back and they look and see what

(26:30):
they posted when they were fourteen, or fifteen years, old
and they're, like oh my god you quoted RAP lyrics
with the n word in it. When you, were fourteen
oh my you're twenty four now and. You're a pro
athlete but, you've got to Apologize and we got, we
don't hold, kids by and large accountable for all the
choices that they, make when they're young, even if they're

(26:52):
criminal because we don't think their brains are well developed
enough to be entirely accountable for the. Choices that they
made How Can, someone like elena kagan How Can Someone
like justice sode mayor believe in that when it comes to,
the criminal justice, system but simultaneously believe oh that fourteen

(27:13):
year old well he should, chop his penis off and the.
STATE should allow it, i think it is in this
particular case somewhat consequential that, almost, every parent said yeah,
we can't allow that because THEY'VE lived through. What i
just described the kid Who, believes he's a jedi the

(27:35):
girl who believes that, she is a princess the imaginary
friends that are treated as real life but we all know.
Are not actually there what Does It Say about katanji
brown jackson that she doubtless has been through this because.
She is a parent i'm sure that her children have
had all. Sorts of imaginative experiences that she's so committed

(27:57):
to the crazy gender cult that she would vote against
a basic parental experience that all, of us would acknowledge
which is young kids make bad choices and our goal
as a parent should be to. Protect them from it
because she cares more about being in good standing politically
with the crazy people in her party than she does

(28:20):
with her. RESPONSIBILITIES as a parent i do, think THAT'S
not coincidental and, I THINK it's significant and i was
THINKING about it as i was sitting at the airport
with my. Three hour plus delay. We'll talk about it
you guys can weigh in eight hundred two two. TWO
eight a two i, want to tell you though, today

(28:41):
is a holiday but one of the days that is
continuing to echo throughout history's nine to eleven, tone of
the Towers The work that. FRANK siller is doing i
try to help him OUT as. Much as, i can
last year they had a. HUGE multimillion dollar FUNDRAISER. I
was the mc i was happy to. Be involved in
it YOU may remember where I Was Down in west
palm beach at. HIS most recent fundraiser i try to

(29:03):
get to as MANY of these EVENTS i can because
i don't want to forget what happened on nine to
eleven back in. Two thousand and one it's. Been twenty
five years people are still continuing to deal with the ravages,
of Nine To eleven and frank siller and his company
and everybody. That he's brought together they're trying to take
care of not just nine to eleven, victims and their
families but. Also everybody, out there, first responders military police

(29:25):
people will put their lives on the line every single day.
For all of us you can give. Eleven dollars a
month You can join. Both buck and myself all you
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Speaker 1 (30:37):
You get your Podcasts Welcome back In Clay. Travis bock
sexton show appreciate. Everybody rolling with us news that. Has
Just Come Down White House press secretary caroline. Levitt at
the rostrum this, IS cut thirty two i believe Reading
A statement from president trump saying that he is going

(30:58):
to decide in, the next two weeks which is obviously
a very long time given that we're what one week
Basically into Attacks from israel on iran about being involved
At All from, A, united states perspective listen regarding The.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
ONGOING situation in iran i know there has been a
lot of speculation amongst all of you in The media
regarding the president's decision making and Whether Or not the
united states. Will be directly involved in, LIGHT of that
news i have a Message, directly FROM the president and
i quote based on the fact that there's a substantial
chance of negotiations that may or may Not take place
with iran, IN the near future i will make my

(31:36):
decision whether or not to go within. The next two
weeks that's a Quote directly from the president for.

Speaker 8 (31:42):
All, Of You Today.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Okay so president trump basically Letting, it be known hey in,
The next two WEEKS i'll decide what. I want to do.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
Can you.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
IMAGINE living and working i don't know if they, live
THERE full time but i think it's probably hard to
get in and out of the side of The mountain
in that iranian nuclear facility in the, side OF the
mountain and i don't are they still sending people? In
there to? Work do we know can you imagine just
going in every, day, and you're like well it's possible

(32:12):
the whole mountain is gonna. Get blown up today you
have no control. Over it at all us might drop the.
Big bunker busting bomb now that's somebody who should. Be
a Little depressed you. Got, americans walking around.

Speaker 9 (32:25):
Oh it's, SO sad but black i have no hope Of,
ever succeeding in america crying myself. TO sleep at night
i making ninety, thousand dollars a, year six weeks vacation
best medical.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Care, in the world.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, it's So sad meanwhile some iranian seleps got to
go into the side of a mountain and wait to
see whether the whole thing's gonna get. Blown up.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Or not.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
THAT'S stress, i'm, sorry i like yeah that's probably not
a very good way to get out of. Bed, in
the morning hey we don't know how mean you might?
Get blown up today.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Control over it all there's literally. Nothing you can do go, Turn.
The beaker on muhammed. Let's get to, Work at any
moment trump may, drop the big bomb blow. The whole
mountain up you. GOT to go in i would. Probably
be pretty depressed those are guys where if they were
like are they called in right, now, AND they're like?
HEY i feel oppressed. I, would get that yeah that

(33:27):
doesn't sound like a very good way. To spend the day,
on The one hand the bunsen, burner's not working. Well
that stinks positive we haven't gotten. BLOWN up yet today
i mean that's basically, their life right now assuming they
have anybody. In the nuclear facility can you ever remember
a conversation like this where everybody just talks about whether we're?
Going to blow up that got the place where these

(33:49):
guys work and they have to go in there. And work.
Every day that's stress that sounds like something you could.
Legitimately be depressed, About, Welcome back In Clay. Travis buck
sexton show appreciate all of you you. Hanging out with
us we're rolling through the jew teenth. EDITION of the
program i wanted to play a couple OF things here

(34:09):
that i thought were significant that we. Rolled Over from
yesterday arnold schwarzenegger has. Been doing the rounds He, was
on the View He. WAS on jimmy kimmel i don't
know if we have the latest yet in From His,
appearance ON jimmy kimmel but i did think that this
was super. Interesting cut twenty, three here he said and

(34:30):
the view didn't really like what he said it immigrants
need to act like guests when they. Come into the
country this. HAS cut twenty three i just think.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
The world of the great kind of history that we Have.
With immigrants in america but the key thing also is
at the same time that we got. To do things legal,
that is.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Important thing you know so he's we got.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
To do things legal and those people that are Doing
illegal things in america AND, did the foreign us they
are not smart because When, you come to america you're
a guest and you have to. Behave like A guest
like when i go To someone's house, and i'm a
guest then THAT would do everything i can keep things

(35:10):
clean and to make my pay and to do everything
that is the right thing to do rather than committing
a crime of being abusive. With something like that so
that doesn't really. Work in this.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Country, it's, A great, ANALOGY right i mean i think
a lot of you understand that if someone is nice
enough to open up their home to you and you
are staying there as a guest, and you trash it
that reflects. Really poorly on you and also the people
who gave you the hospitality are unlikely to extend that hospitality,

(35:40):
not only to you but probably less likely to extend hospitality.
Going forward to, others and he, continued by THE way
this is i think important for the. Views audience to hear, here,
he is saying look you have a responsibility when you're
an Immigrant to pay back america for what it did
to you for you and to give back to the.

(36:01):
Country cut twenty four.

Speaker 8 (36:02):
The important thing is when you become an, Immigrant, TO
think about Okay i Go to america because I'm going
to use america for The great opportunities that, america has,
in education in, jobs creating a family all of. Those
kind of things then you, Have, to THINK about okay
if i get all Of. Those THINGS from america then
i have. To give something back you have a responsibility

(36:25):
as an immigrant To give back to america and To,
pay back to america and to go and do something
for your community. For no money whatsoever give something back,
to After school program especially olympics.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Or whatever it is Make this company, of lama As Well.
Said By arnold schwarzenegger. Joey jones with us now. You're
around my age i'm sure You Grew Up Watching Arnold,
schwartznagel's schwarzenegger sylvester stallone that universe of really. Big time
action stars can you believe that that's considered? To BE

(36:58):
controversial now but i Don't, All, SAID by arnold well i.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Think it's controversial because It's Being. SAID by arnold soorzenegger
i have a, little BIT longer memory and i remember
some of the videos he Was Putting out criticizing donald
trump in a really ridiculous way over the. Last HANDFUL
of years so i just add, him to the latest
the latest of The long list of trump derangement victims
who have started, to see the light probably because all

(37:25):
the people that make them popular and rich have, also
seen the light and so THEIR following suit and i
appreciate that. HE said Those things I think i'll say
i think, he believed those things but he has largely
ignored the things like that that he believes In Order
to criticize donald trump for. The last six years and
it's good to.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
See him come AROUND tell me about i believe you,
have A book out, if i'm not mistaken tell me
about what you're going around. Talking, about right.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Now yeah that's important thing for me to. Talk about
right now it is this book because it's something that's.
So important to me it's not to say that were
in the other things that were that were discussing aren't just.
As important more so but before we, can worry about
where we have to get, out of our house go
do the things we do in our lives and try to.
Stay safe doing them and there are people out there

(38:09):
called first responders that keep us. Really KEEP us alive
and i wish it were just personal experience IN the
sense of i got, pulled over one. Time but it's
not it's people that are really close to. Me in
my life my brother in law is somebody that's been
AN uncle toomy since i, was three years OLD a
guy that, i Went.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
To war With And These are.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Indiana state trooper firemen these are a game boarding In,
the STATE of maine a Swat TEAM member Near. Baltimore
lapd bomb squad and their stories are just they're inspiring
from a position of how do you keep? Doing this
every day how do you get out of your house
every day and drive your kids to school through an
intersection where someone was killed there last night and, you responded?

(38:51):
To it you know how do you drive by an
apartment building that you've gone through so many times for
a drug overdose or? Domestic violence or fire and how
do you live in your battlefield and get up every
morning and you're happy to go to work, and carry
that weight not just the, weight of your gear but
the memories of all the things you've ex ceriousd in
your own community and still function as a dad or a.

(39:13):
Wife OR a son and i got to sit down
with none of those people. And ask those questions we made,
this book from it and it's just. Amazing. Piece of history.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Really the Book's, Called behind The badge answering the Call
to Serve. On america's home front you Served Lost your,
legs purple heart recipient so you uniquely are probably experiencing
What's going on with iran based on the service that
you already have given to this country and the. Sacrifice

(39:44):
that You've Made so if president trump called you, up,
and he said hey what advice would you give me
based on what you've seen About, the situation in, iran,
you would say what what's the clear?

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Objective if you, can if you can you can explain
a clear objective of what you Want to accomplish that
i'm absolutely supportive of you, because as a president you've
already shown that your goal is not to put service
members on the front. Lines for twenty years your goal
is Not to convince the american people every two years to.

(40:18):
Fund an endless war their goal isn't to wrap us
up in a war that the objective, changes every two
years that it goes from We want To, kill osama
bin laden so we want to create democracy and spread
and spread our Belief System. ACROSS the middle east I
Don't believe that president. Trump Has those goals president trump's
Goal is to keep americans not just for the four,

(40:38):
years he's in office but for. THE next forty years
i also believe that's why he has the, economic vision
he has and so he's built enough trust in me
for his first four years in office and doing what
he says in this much Of this term that i'm
not concerned with him getting us into a needless war.
Or an endless war but as someone who fought in,
A twenty year war i'm skeptical of anyone in power who.

(41:00):
Can SEND troops there and, i want to know? What
are your objectives? What is the objective i'm not saying
he can say that to, us publicly right now there's
there is a, chess GAME going on And I believe
that president trump understands the power of his words as.
A point of leverage so even if, HE says it
publicly i know there's more behind it than. Just what he,
says if, it's we're you, know a total surrender does

(41:22):
that mean total surrender? Of your nuclear program or does
that mean get on a Plane? Next out, Of russia.
He knows ron knows the rest of, us have TO
guess and so i. UNDERSTAND the strategy Here I believe
that president trump is seeing an opportunity to use that
microphone as, THE plomacy a threat i, guess you would
say but also, on the back channels he's trying. To

(41:43):
make a deal he says That.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
We're, Talking To. JOEY jones fox news i know. You're
a sports fan we haven't talked about it on the
program in the, last Couple Of days but caitlin clark getting.
Wrecked has every game it's. Like it goes megaviral what
do you think? Think should happen there is it? Good
for the league even though at least it creates controversy

(42:05):
When It's like the real HOUSEWIVES. Of the w nba
can you remember seeing anything like this?

Speaker 4 (42:10):
As, A sports fan listen i poking, HER in the
eye i think is the. Latest, thing that, happened, yeah that's,
right thing like anything any hands of, the face like.
THAT the, dirtiest move, i mean, you know for men
there's some maybe one move that's a little dirtier when
you're in, a pile in football but. That's a different
thing but to poke, somebody in the eye that's just.

(42:31):
SUCH an egregious act i think anyone who gets caught
doing it. Should be suspended automatically, FROM the greater picture
i think it's probably the best thing THAT'S happened to
the wnba. IN a, LONG time i mean i hate
to be. Cynical in that way i'm not saying it's
a it's. An objectively good Thing BUT there's another sophie
i can't, Remember Her.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Last name like sophie. Turned into a star now.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
You haven't heard that she's a. Very attractive young woman
but also she's coming out and throwing up elbows. And
defending her teammates so now it's, like there's more intrigue
there's more, characters in the plot and so the more it,
grows in that way it's got to capture AN. Audience
for the wnba is it? SETTING the right example I
Don't know the oto senko or you know any number

(43:14):
of football players that have Captured People's, Attention for terrell
owens did any of those make the world a better
place or? Set a, Great example probably not so it's
not great that this is how. You Get on there
but i'm infinitely more interested IN the sport than i
was a year. And A half ago so i think
you got to be. Honest In that respect.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Supreme court. Ruling came down yesterday you've got kids, EARLIER in,
THE program i said i don't understand how any parent
that is looking at, things, rationally could say hey it's
good for a fourteen or fifteen year old to have
permanent surgery that would potentially sterilize them or alter in

(43:56):
some way their ability to grow up. As A healthy
adult and i looked At It, ON the, supreme court
i said six To one parents said Tennessee can do
what tennessee. Was trying to do two, nonparents soughto My
yore and, also kagan, said two oh oh. This is

(44:16):
perfectly fine do you think being a parent here impacts the?
Way you see this and does it surprise you that
parents would have almost entirely one perspective and non parents?
Might have, ANOTHER one.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
You know i like, where YOU'RE going there and i
think for rational human. Beings THAT'S absolutely true but i mean,
you got to remember these kids that are having, this
DONE have parents and i guess their parents. ARE okay
with it i mean sometimes said they believe they, were
BRAINWASHED in hindsight but I mean that's a i would
SAY that too if i, SCREWED up, that badly i
guess and my kid. Decided TO reverse course so i

(44:53):
think it really comes down to being a rational human
being and understanding the. WORLD as, it exists i mean
there are short people that, want to be tall they
are tall people that. Want to be short there are
blonds that. Want TO be brunettes and i guess there's
some things that are temporary you. Can do to change, you,
can buy sticks shoes, Or dye your hair but when
you come to changing the CHEMICAL, makeup of your, DNA of,
Your body i mean i'm a thirty eight YEAR OLD

(45:16):
man and i i have to take testosphone replacement because
my body quit making it because my cortisol levels were so,
raised for so long not, just through my injury but
through my recovery, that my body, said you know what
we're in a fight or flight. Mode FOR now on
and i did, that for many years and then finally
my body started working again just to get. It BACK
to normal AND i know how i felt FOR the

(45:37):
years that i, was in that state AND the thing
that i would go and actively do that to deprive
my body of something that, needs for bone, density just,
for wellness for regenerations to steal to deprive my, body
of those things or to change the chemical makeup of
those things. Is a heavy decision and to let a
teenager that doesn't under the eyes of the wall have

(46:00):
the discernment, to drive, a vehicle drink, alcohol serve, their
country or vote change who they are in that way
in a way that's detrimental to their. Health in any,
respect only rational people only irrational people think. That's a.
Good idea dow understand the argument is you haven't had
a child that's going through gender dicyepia. And dealt, WITH

(46:20):
that you're, Right i get that but there are any number.
Of issues, out there you know we don't take every
every person that struggles with depression and anxiety and hysteria
and give them the lobotomy, like we you know we
we grew through that stupidity and this is the. Lobotomy
of gender dysphoria. That's what this is and that's the
problem is it's it's, irrevocable and causes, harm and.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
It's, FOREVER no doubt hey i encourage everybody. To check
It out behind the badge answering the Call to serve,
On America's. Home front joe jones you Can See. Him
On fox, news purple. Heart recipient great work appreciate you
making the. Time for us today good. LUCK with the, book.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
I appreciate. You guys Thank You, that.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
IS joey jones and i, Want to tell you i'm
gonna play. SOME of your talkbacks i think we're going to.
Be entertained by those, but in the meantime you just
heard Me asking what would joey tell The president if, The,
president asked him hey what do you? Think we should
do israeli citizens today, suffered incoming missile strikes, hit in,
the hospital tremendous damage and the missile attacks meant. To

(47:21):
harm innocence civilians they're just trying to injure people that
have nothing at all to. Do with the battle israelis
have to move into bomb shelters. At. A moment's notice
overnight they got to get down there to get themselves.
Out of harms way no end insight to, these kind
of bombings and the need, for assistance is great Which
Is why The international Fellowship of christians and jews is

(47:42):
on the ground preparing large scale distributions, of life saving
food first, aid and Emergency kits especially to, israel's most,
vulnerable people, the sick the elderly children and. Families in
great need your help is needed right. Now more than ever,
they're making sure hospitals emergency room shelters fully stocked. Critical
life saving Supplies that's why the fellowship needs your. Most

(48:05):
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