June 20, 2025 • 60 mins
Clay discusses recent political shifts regarding transgender issues, noting that many moderate voters are drawing a line when it comes to children and women's sports. He references a New York Times front page article about top Democratic contenders avoiding criticism of a recent Supreme Court decision on the matter.
Clay delves into a thought-provoking comparison between former President Barack Obama and Donald Trump's legacies. Clay argues that Obama is beginning to recognize that Trump has become more consequential and transformative than him in American politics. He suggests that Trump's presidency may have greater historical significance, likening Obama's realization to hearing the Jaws theme song as Trump devours his legacy.
Clay dives into comments from Congressman Max Frost about the US "becoming Florida," which Clay says would be exactly what most Americans want.
Clay breaks down the movie "Jaws" as it approaches its 50th anniversary. Travis provocatively argued that "Jaws" is the most influential movie of all time, prompting listener calls with alternative suggestions including "Rocky." Travis shared personal stories about how "Jaws" affected his own relationship with swimming, noting he was afraid to swim even in pools at night after seeing the film. Multiple callers shared similar experiences, including one 58-year-old listener who still won't swim in ocean water where he can't touch the sand.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you are hanging out with us and
headed into the weekend for a fabulous weekend. Buck, I
believe is still on the French Riviera. I don't know
when he officially flies back, but this morning I was
doing prep for the show, and I was reading about
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all the super fancy parties that he has been attending
and all of the flagrant excess advertising universe that has
been engaged in can for the past week. So I
can't wait to hear what he is going to have
to say about life on the French Riviera when he
returns to the radio with me on Monday. But I've
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enjoyed hanging out with all of you throughout the course
of this week. We will be back together again on
the Monday edition of the program, and I'll actually be
up in Michigan. We've got a brand new, awesome affiliate
in the northern Michigan area, Traverse City in particular. I
know that a lot of you are listening in that area,
and I'll be broadcasting from Traverse City, Michigan, which is
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one of my favorite places in the United States.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
In the summer.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Absolutely fantastic up there, So look forward to seeing some
of you running around in the Michigan area. My wife
of course from Michigan. So we're gonna be up there
with some friends and family, and I'll be doing the
program with all of you there, and look forward to
meeting a new affiliate in Traverse City and many of
you that may be getting used to listening to us there.
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All right, we're gonna have some fun. It is the
fiftieth anniversary of Jaws, the release of the movie Jaws
nineteen seventy five. That movie came out. I would suggest
to you, and we're gonna dive into this later, but
you guys can already start to lose your minds or say,
you know what, Clay, you're actually brilliant. This under percent truth.
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I think Jaws is the most influential movie that has
ever been made in the history of film. And when
I say that, I don't mean that it's the best.
I don't mean that it had changed the conversation on politics,
or that it led to freedom, or it led to
any massive societal change. When I say the most influential,
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I mean that there is almost no one that has
ever watched that movie that has not thought about Jaws
at a minimum when you go to the beach, and
I bet there are a lot of you who, even
when you have been jumping in lakes, and even maybe
when you've been in swimming pools after watching Jaws, actually thought, oh, man,
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I hope there's not a great white shark that is
going to eat me during the course of this swim
fresh water lakes, not even big lakes, like lakes where
you can see the boundary. I remember after watching Jaws,
when I was a little kid swimming in a pool
at night. I was like, Oh, there may be a
shark in here. And it wasn't in Florida, by the way,
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where I was like, oh, there may be an alligator
in here. So we'll have some fun with that fiftieth
anniversary Friday edition at a minimum in the third hour,
no guest scheduled. You guys have been killing it on
the talkbacks, so we will have a bunch of fun
with those as well. All that headed this direction. But
I saw this morning as I was doing my prep
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what fell. And by the way, we'll update you to
the extent that there's any movement at all on the
absolute latest as it pertains to what's going on with
Iran in Israel. So far, it does not appear there
have been massive changes since we talked to you yesterday
and shared the news that Trump had said there's a
two week window and we'll see how that's going to
shake out. Okay, So let me dive into something that
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I thought was significant as I was doing my pre
reading prep today. We have talked about the big Supreme
Court decision that came down on Wednesday that said the
state of Tennessee has the right to keep young minor
children from having so called gender altering surgeries, however you
want to classify it. That is, potentially your genitals could
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be chopped off because you happen to think you're a
boy or a girl, or vice versa, which is different
than the body that you were actually. In front page
story from the primary, I would still say Democrat mouthpiece
in media. The New York Times headline, Democrats' wary response
to transgender ruling shows the party's retreat. That's the headline
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today's front page New York Times. While some in the
party denounced the Supreme Court's decision, other top leaders remained quiet,
underscoring the party's discomfort on the issue. Another way of
talking about this would be that Democrats have been proven
wrong on this, And I just thought this entire article
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was very interesting. Leading Democrats opening sentence offered a a
slow trickle of critical reaction on Wednesday to the Supreme
Court's decision upholding a state ban on some transgender care
for youth.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Hours after the ruling arrived, some top Democrats like Chuck
Schumer had statements. But you know, Chuck Schumer is never
going to run for president of the United States. He
represents the Senate Democrat coalition, and so that didn't really
surprise me. But here is the third paragraph. Many others,
including key players in the twenty twenty eight shadow primary race,
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had yet to weigh in. Gavin Newsom, at least at
the time that this was written.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania nothing. Wes Moore of Maryland nothing.
Asked for comment. Representatives for all three governors said they
were not issuing any statements on the decision for now.
This is what victory looks like. They also reached out
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to the to mayor Pete, to other people, and by
and large, this was again to a great degree ignored,
and at the front page article again in the New
York Times points to and I've been thinking about this
ad quite a lot because I've got a new book
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coming out. It's called Ball's ba Lls about how Trump
won men and sports fans and how we all saved
the nation in twenty twenty four. Very understated as you
in case you're wondering, also has two big pictures of
basketballs on the cover. You guys are gonna love it.
There's gonna be a lot of people that lose their
mind over it. It's gonna be out in November, and
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the book basically argues that young men, sports fans, and
Trump saved America in twenty twenty four. And one of
the parts of the book is this front page article,
Kamala is for they them, President Trump is for you.
I would submit to you that that might be the
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single most effective political ad that any presidential candidate has
run in my life. I know there's been a lot
of them, but the data reflects that that ad that
Kamala is for they them, President Trump is for you. Uh.
Because I've been doing research on it for the book
moved in the favorable direction towards Trump two point seven points.
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It worked well for moms, white moms, It worked well
for black and Hispanic men. Those were groups that were
particularly impacted by that ad, which I think speaks to
the scope of disgust that has settled in now. Men
competing in women's sports is a part of it. But
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I would argue the far more significant component to this is, hey,
if your son is fifteen and thinks he's a girl,
we should chop his penis off. I mean, that is
Democrat orthodoxy right now, but they are getting rejected nationwide.
Front page credit to the Supreme Court, but front page
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news in the New York Times pointing out that Democrats
are now running from this issue. And the other thing
that I thought signed in here was there is a
new poll out from Coefficient talking about who are the
favorites for Democrat presidential nomination in twenty twenty eight. I
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just mentioned some of them to you there. Kamala Harris
twenty six percent, support, Gavin Newsom twenty one percent, support
AOC fourteen percent, support Mayor Pete eleven percent, Walls ten percent,
Josh Shapiro three percent. That's the top six. I would
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submit to you that the top five here. You can
clip this, you can save it. You can call me
a moron if I'm wrong. On early November of twenty
twenty eight, Kamala Harris, Gavin new Some, AOC mayor, Pete,
and Tim Walls, they have a zero percent chance of
being elected President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They may be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm not saying that that's impossible, but I think Kamala Harris,
Gavin new Some, AOC mayor, Pete, and Tim Walls have
a zero percent chance. Now, Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania.
Problem he has, unfortunately for him, is he's Jewish, and
a large contingent of the Democrat base doesn't like Jewish people.
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That's going to be voting in the primary. That's why
I think he wasn't the nominee as vice president, so
that's an issue for him. I think Wes Moore is
gonna run. Wes Moore, I think has been making some
solidly strategic moves, very popular Maryland governor. Not a crazy person.
I know he's been reaching out to President Trump frequently
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and they actually have a decent relationship. I think Trump
would tell you that, and Wes Moore has a military
athletes background. He's not a pussy willow like a lot
of Democrats, and frankly, a lot of people don't know him. Uh,
And so I think that helps. But I don't think
anybody with a major public profile that is a Democrat
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right now can get elected in twenty twenty eight because
they've all gone over the woke waterfall and they've embraced
such crazy what I would say is fundamentally rejected by
most reasonable American positions. And that was, you know, the
Kamalas for the them, Trump's for you ad really built
off the idea that Kamala Harris said that illegal immigrants
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should get transsurgeries paid for by taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
She supported that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And I think that Democrats have had to so report
so many ridiculous stories and just flagrantly ridiculous positions that
I think a lot of currently elected Democrats have a
zero percent chance of being able to be elected nationwide.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
JB.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Pritzker, Illinois governor, no chance. Gretchen Whitmercy's kind of got
a Cruela Deville look about her. I think it's unlikely.
I think she would expose herself on the national stage.
I also don't think that Democrats are going to nominate
a woman because of what's happened to Hillary and Kamala,
and I think they recognize that that is probably not
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a good direction to go. But I think the bigger
issue they have is they're wrong on all the issues.
So they need someone who is either not a politician,
they need their own version of Trump, somebody who comes
out of the woodwork. Look out for George Clooney. I
think he's a moron. Some of you may have seen
us going back and forth, but Mark Cuban, I'm going
to talk about this a little bit. Evidently, Kamala Harris
(11:58):
strongly considered him to be her vice presidential running mate.
But I do think that there's going to be a
lot of rich guys that make the decision. Hey, on
the Democrat side, I could be the Democrat version of Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I could be a disruptor.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I could sort of scatter the ridiculousness and absurdity, shatter
once and for all the woke universe. I think you're
going to see a lot of people making that move.
And I was thinking about it as you are seeing
right now Democrats scurry from positions that would have been
party orthodoxy just a couple of years ago. I think
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they've recognized that the trans thing has gone too far.
I think most people I'm talking about middle of the
road voters will say, Okay, you know, if you're a
grown man or a grown woman and you want to
dress up and pretend that you're a different gender because
it makes you happier. Okay, if you're a grown man
or grown woman and you want to have surgery to
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try in some way alter your appearance so you appear
to not be the gender. I think that's increasingly getting
harder to defend. I think just based on the health
related risk, but I think most people are saying, okay,
but you come for children. That's a line that we
are not going to allow to be touched. And I
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also think the men and women's sports crystallizes that at
some point the logical limits of inclusion are reached, and
when you go too far, you begin to exclude people
in the name of inclusion. That is, when you're saying, hey,
this man deserves to be able to compete in women's sports,
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you're knocking women out of being able to compete in
women's sports. So you want to be inclusive. I think
them talking about middle of the road voters that are
open but not to the point of exclusion, and I
think that's where we are. And I thought that was
interesting Front page New York Times. Many of the top
contenders for the Democrat nomination are not criticizing that Supreme
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Court decision. We'll talk more about that. We'll have some
fun as we roll through the Friday edition of the program.
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Speaker 1 (15:26):
We got a lot of people weighing in on a
variety of different subjects. Latest on Iran Israel. We will
dive into Buck. We'll be back with me on Monday,
traveling back from France where he has been on the
French rivi Era. We will have a lot of your
weigh ins on a variety of different topics. Eight hundred
and two A two two eight eight two. We're having
funds fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. My argument is it's the
(15:49):
most influential movie ever made. Also by the way it
launched the summer blockbuster era. For those of you who
around my age, it's very commonplace. You would get out
of school and there would be a roster of incredibly
big blockbuster movies that were all ready to roll. And
(16:11):
that is now super commonplace. But back in the day,
the idea was, oh, summer is kind of a wall
in the box office. People are traveling, it's not the
time when movies are going to take off. And that
changed with Jaws and the summer blockbuster phenomenon. So fiftieth anniversary,
it is, by the way, airing for free on something
(16:32):
called over the air television. That is free for everybody
on NBC at eight o'clock Eastern. So if you've never
if you're one of the only people out there whos
never seen Jaws, tonight and you are capable of figuring
out how to put on NBC, it will be free
tonight for everybody to watch on the fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
So what's a break?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well, to start the show, I was running through the
fact that Democrats who hope to be the nomine twenty
twenty eight are mostly ignoring the Wednesday Supreme Court case
on the transgender kid issue, which was decided six to
three in favor of the state of Tennessee being able
to prohibit these treatments. They're pretending that that ruling did
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not happen. Let me also point out, along with many
other issues out there, if Trump hadn't won the twenty
sixteen election, this probably would have been a five to
four decision. Tennessee is not able to stop kids from
having trans surgery. I know sometimes that gets lost in
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the overall larger geopolitical picture, But the most consequential thing
in terms of being able to look at the Supreme
Court for generations to come, was Trump's twenty sixteen one win,
because without that, a lot of these six to three
common sense decisions may well have been five to four
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crazy left wing decisions, and a state like Tennessee might
not have been able to say, hey, we're not going
to let fifteen year olds chop off their boobs or
their penises. That is child abuse and we think it's
not a actual medical treatment. So I know sometimes that
gets lost in the shuffle, but Trump one point zero.
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If he doesn't win and Hillary is in office, a
lot of these rulings that have come down are very,
very different, and I think it's worth keeping in mind
as we look ahead, Supreme Court justices are on the
court for life. But some of these guys and gals
are getting up there into their seventies, into their high seventies.
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And you only have to look at Ruth Bader Ginsburg
to point to that and say, hey, you gotta be
careful about staying on for too long, because you may
not make it to where you're in a position where
somebody who has a judicial philosophy like yours is going
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to be replacing you. And so in the case of
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, you end up with Amy Cony Barrett,
who is in the majority on this six to three decision.
I would like to think Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have
been smart enough, because she is an old school liberal,
to have looked at a story like this and said,
this is crazy. She's a mom, this is outrageous to
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allow fourteen and fifteen year olds to do this. But
the Democrat orthodoxy and the far left wing woke ideology
is very strong in many of these individuals, and I'm
not sure necessarily that that would have occurred. Okay, I
want to play for you. Barack Obama has decided to
go back out on the interview circuit, and I believe
(19:57):
this was a Connecticut event where he was sitting and
he was talking, and he's talking about misinformation and disinformation,
And I want to just play this cut for you,
and then I want to lay out a thesis that
I think is underlying why Obama is suddenly becoming more
outspoken a bit.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Let's listen.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Our biggest founds right now is we need democracy and
social cohesion.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And trust.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
More than ever, and it's probably as weak as it's
been since I've been alive. And that's a bad combination.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, I don't actually buy that that's true because Barack Obama.
What year was Barack Obama born? Guys, will you look
that up? I think Barack Obama was alive in nineteen
sixty eight, which I would argue for most people out
there is the craziest year of most of our lives.
I would actually put twenty twenty in second place in
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many ways in terms of eras, the COVID twenty twenty
BLM protest, George Floyd, insanity, all of that is right
up there with nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They echo with each other.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But I think Barack Obama would have been alive in
nineteen sixty eight. I believe that I'm accurate on that
because I think that Barack Obama is about fifteen years
older than me and is the oldest born in nineteen
sixty one. So yeah, he may not remember it well,
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but he was certainly alive for that. What's behind Obama?
Let me it's a funny one. Let me actually dive
in here for a minute and tell you where I
think all this is coming from. So I think that
Obama believed that his two thousand and eight win and
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his twenty twelve win was good going to make him
one of the most transformative figures in American history from
a presidential perspective, and I think he was quite confident
in that, and I think he was quite proud of
it that he is the first non white president half black,
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half lite the white half evidently doesn't count, but first
non white president. And I think he was of the
opinion that his election in the twenty first century was
going to turn into a transformative moment and that in
the generations to come he would echo even more, that
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he would become even more of an iconic figure. I
don't think it's happened, and I think he is looking
now at Donald Trump because we just had the ten
year anniversary of Trump coming down the escalator and announcing
that he was going to run for president in twenty
sixteen the election site, and now Trump has been elected
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twice and he's going to be in office as long
as he stays healthy until January of twenty twenty nine.
And Trump two point zero, I think has the potential
to be one of the most impactful and consequential terms
in office that we have ever seen. And if you
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just use the first one hundred and fifty ish days
of Trump two point zero as a proxy. I actually
asked Buck this when we walked out of the Oval
office last week.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What is Trump even going to do by year three?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
He's moving so fast and obviously one of the challenges
of being president is there many different issues that arise
that you're not really in control of. COVID is a
great example in twenty twenty because I think Trump was
on pace to have the greatest economy in the history
of the world. And if COVID doesn't suddenly land in
March of twenty twenty, even if it landed in March
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of twenty twenty one instead of March of twenty twenty,
if it doesn't land right in the middle of an
American presidential election cycle. I think Trump would have rowed
that economy in twenty twenty no matter what sort of
Shenanigan's Democrats tried. I think he would have ridden that
into an incredibly successful twenty twenty election campaign. And I
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think he would have crushed Joe Biden. I don't think
it would have even been remotely close, because remember it
would have been they would have not been able to
hide Biden, they wouldn't have been able to send him
to the basement. Biden's frailties would have been in stark
contrast with Trump's virility, and I don't even think the
election would have been close. I think Democrats got thrown
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a life veest and it saved what would have otherwise
been a metaphorically drowning Biden twenty twenty campaign, and I
think a lot of them in retrospect now see that.
I think it's why they played up the fear of
COVID all those other things, because I think they recognize
that they would have lost and it would not have
been particularly close in twenty twenty. But if Trump had
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won in twenty twenty. I actually think his impact would
be far less consequential than it has been in this
term starting in twenty twenty five, and I think Obama's
having that realization. I think Obama is suddenly looking around
and saying, Okay, if you just think about presidents in
the last two generations, Ronald Reagan had a transformative presidency.
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I know the Berlin Wall came down in George hw
Bush's tenure. A lot of people forget about that in
nineteen eighty nine, but Reagan had a transformative presidency. In
my life, I would put Reagan as the most transformative president.
Bill Clinton, I think, had a highly successful presidency, and
I know people out there are like, yeah, well, leave
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aside the Intern. As I've said for some time, I
would rather a president screw an Intern than the whole country. Okay,
if Biden screwed the whole country. He may not have
screwed an Intern, but he screwed the whole country instead.
If you're around my age, most of us who grew
up and I'm forty six, most of us who grew
up in the eighties and nineties feel like America was
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pretty awesome in the eighties and nineties. That entire generation
of kids that grew up in the eighties and nineties.
I'm not saying we're perfect, but it was a sort
of a pre internet world where you could just get
let out on your own. Like I laugh about this now,
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but I rode the school bus home from my public school.
My parents both worked. They just gave me a mace
canister on the keychain. I was ten, and they were like, hey,
if anybody tries to kidnap, you just spray them with mace.
If I suggested that about my ten year old right now,
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my wife would strangle me. What we let kids do
in the seventies, eighties, and nineties, and don't even get
me started, I'm sure in the fifties and sixties. And
then my mom says, when she was growing up in Chattanooga, Tennessee,
they had ponies, and her mom would just be like, hey,
you and your brother, get on your ponies and just
(27:18):
be back before dark. You got on a horse and
just rode off into the distance in Chattanooga, Tennessee in
the nineteen fifties, and my grandma was just like, yeah,
just make sure you're back before dark. Do you know
how far you could go on a horse, and they're
just like, hey, you'll be fine. You're eight, Get on
the horse, just ride around for a while.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We'll see you later. Take a pack lunch.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
So I could see why my mom thought, well, he's
just riding the school bus. It's super safe. But you know,
protectionism of kids has grown immensely. But I think most
people look back at the eighties and nineties and they say, Okay,
the Reagan era, the Clinton era, most people were pretty
happy in the country. And then I think, and this
is where you know, I'm gonna have to dive into
(28:05):
this because some of you've made disagree. But I think
George W. Bush was an unmitigated disaster. Came in with
a balanced budget, nine to eleven, happens we end up
in war with Iraq. Dick Cheney's a disaster. That's why
I think the idea that Liz Cheney endorsed Kamala, A
lot of you are like, good, Dick Cheney's the worst
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vice president in the history of the United States. I'm
gonna have to expound on this thesis. But I think
what Obama is slowly starting to recognize is that what
he thought was going to be a transformative presidency that
was the story of the twenty first century. In terms
of excellent leadership, he has been totally overtaken by Trump.
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Trump is far more consequential and far more successful than
Obama ever would have been. And it's a direct result
of Obama's failed policies that Trump was enabled. And even
beyond that, I think there's an argument that the only
reason Trump even got into office was because Obama taunted
him and Trump said, screw this, I'm not staying on
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the sidelines anymore. So Obama might have chosen the method
of his own destruction, just like in Ghostbusters, and it's Trump,
and I think Obama's starting to recognize it. We'll come back,
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On the French Riviera meeting with advertisers and can looking
forward to to being back together again on Monday. A
lot of different stories out there. Let me update you
on the latest reports that talks in Europe with Iran
have failed. Iran is really kind of playing this in
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an interesting way. At any point, all of their leadership
could be wiped out only by the grace of God.
And basically Israeli fighter plans are they still alive at all?
Yet they appear to be refusing to negotiate. I don't
know what the historical analogy for this would be, but
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Iran failing to reach any sort of agreement in Europe.
And here's the bigger picture issue that I've been talking
about quite some time. You can never trust this Iranian leadership.
They want nuclear weapons. It makes imminent logical sense for
them to have nuclear weapons because it would preserve their
political power forever, potentially, much like has happened with North Korea.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So anything they.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Tell you is likely to be a lie, and you
cannot negotiate with them in good faith at all. So
that is the latest on Iran and Israel. As I
mentioned yesterday, Trump said he will decide in the next
two weeks whether or not to go in with the
big bunker buster bomb, among other things.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And I do think probably the worst job in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
To have right now is working in that four dough
nuclear mountain site.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Your job may not be great.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You might be listening to me right now, hunched over
in your cubicle, pretending to be working on your TPS reports,
But odds are you're not also thinking, Hey, at any moment,
a bomb might wipe out my entire business.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It's Friday afternoon in many parts of the country. You're
probably ready for the weekend to be here. You may
hate your job, but I'm here to tell you the
guys working in the Iranian nuclear mountain factory they got
a job than you. They're just showing up. At any
moment they might get blown up. That seems like not
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an ideal job to have. Maybe the worst in the
world right now. The Ninth Circuit this was I haven't
spent much time on this because there's so many district
court judges, six hundred some odd of them, and they're
about half of them hate Trump, and they're constantly coming
out with anti Trump rulings. The latest that happened was
a district Federal District Court judge in California said Trump
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couldn't call out the National Guard Evidently that judge has
no idea what actually the supremacy clause means, which is
the National Guard is controlled by the national leader aka Trump.
And now the Ninth Circuit, including I believe it's an
Obama appointee as well, has ruled three to zero that
Trump controls the National Guard and is able to deploy
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them in Los Angeles. This is not a very complicated
legal issues. Some legal issues are very complicated. Evidently Gavin
Newsom is going to continue to appeal that there is
also so Trump is going to win that one. I
will tell you anyone with a functional brain who is
basic knowledge of the law will tell you so.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Exulting because one random district court judge said that he
controlled the California National Guard, not Trump, was laughably absurd,
and I think it's been.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Exposed to be such.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
A judge has also ordered again these district court judges
have emerged as the as the peak of the Trump
two point zero opposition, the peak of the spear, as
it were. And a federal judge in New Jersey has
ordered that my Mood Khalil, three months after the former
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Columbia student was detained, should be released so anyway that
will be appealed. Federal district court judges, about half of
them hate Trump, and they will try to enter in
place nationwide injunctions or rulings that will apply.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Nationwide that are of a substantial nature. So that is.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Where we are with the current breaking news stories of
the day. Now, I wanted to hit you with a
couple of other things that are out there. We've been
talking about Obama being usurped by Trump as by far
the most consequential figure that is out there. I also
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told you it is the fiftieth anniversary of the release
of the movie Jaws. It initially came out in nineteen
seventy five. We've been having some fun with this. Many
of you guys want to react to the impact of
Jaws in your life. I'm arguing it's the most influential
movie of all time, not because it is the best
movie of all time, but just because it impact people's
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thoughts and decisions in life more than any movie that
has been released I think of all time. So we'll
have some fun with that here in the third hour.
As is the fiftieth anniversary. You guys can tee off
on me, or you can agree a lot of different people,
but I didn't want to play this cut for you
because I think it's emblematic of the failure of Democrats
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to really understand the world in which we are living
right now. Maxwell Frost, who is a congressman from Florida,
right the Orlando area, I believe team look that up
and make sure that I'm right, says Hey, he's got
a big fear the United States is at risk of
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turning into Florida. This is cut thirty three.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Listen, you know, this fight against far right neo fascism,
for me at least, was mainly taking stage in my
home in Florida, fighting against Ronda Santis and the extremism there.
And something I always told people is that the Project
twenty twenty five is actually Florida twenty twenty two, Florida
twenty twenty and the stuff that's going on around the
country right now, we've actually been dealing with in the
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South for a long time, especially in my state of Florida.
So the difference is it's like the struggle in my
state has kind of been just spread throughout the nation.
And honestly, that day after Election Day had a hard
time getting up.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Okay, So I think this is really very interesting, honestly,
because ultimately the debate that I believe we're going to
have is going to move beyond Trump.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Now, it doesn't mean that again by.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
The midterms twenty twenty seven, the twenty twenty eight election
cycle is going to be underway. And I don't think
this is a bad way of distilling what that argument
is going to be. And I think the problem Democrats
have is they're on the wrong side of a really
bad argument. If you had to say, hey, which two
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states right now are the avatar of Republican and Democrat
belief systems writ large, Which individual state represents Red state America,
Which individual state represents Blue state America. I think that
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Florida under Governor Ron De Santis would be the avatar
for Red state America. Now you could argue Texas, you
could argue Tennessee. I would argue that those three are
probably the trio the triangle of Hey, this is what
red state America represents. And I would actually argue that
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Florida probably is the best. Now, why would I say
that no state income tax in Florida, no state income
tax in Tennessee, no state income tax in Texas, so
incredibly low tax states, very dynamic economies, rapidly growing populations,
all Republican governors with some Democrats, cities in there, but
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overwhelmingly having become more read since twenty twenty. Now a
lot of you live in different states. You might argue
with me. I think I'm right in saying that if
I had to pick a trifecta of states that represents
what red state governance can be, Florida, Tennessee and Texas
would be the trio, and Florida would be the avatar
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if you had to pick one state of Hey, this
is what big red state policies can dori at large.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Okay, what about the Blue states?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I think California would probably have to be the avatar
for what blue state policies lead to, and Gavin Newsom
would be the mirror image, right, the opposite side of
what's going on in red state Florida with Ron DeSantis.
And you could say, if you had to pick three states,
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I mean, look, there are many blue states that I
think have been driven insane. You could add Oregon in Washington,
but then that's just a Pacific Coast universe. So I
think you would probably want to say, California, Illinois, and
New York would be the blue state avatars, three big
states that Democrats control basically top to bottom. The problem
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that Democrats have is they think Americans still want to
look like what is going on in California, and I
think overwhelmingly Americans want to look like what's going on
in Tennessee, Texas and Florida. I think the representative argument
here is not a good one, and Maxwell Frost is
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actually making it directly there that Congressman, hey, look out,
America might end up like Florida. I think a lot
of Americans are like, yeah, that sounds pretty good. And
Gavin Newsom is still out there arguing, Hey, America needs
to look like California. I think the problem for Gavin
Newsom is most Americans don't agree. Now, Blue state America may,
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but the seven swing states, the people that are out
there in the middle open to being persuaded. They're making
that argument directly. The problem is they're making the argument
in the wrong direction. Look Out, America's gonna look like Florida.
I'm like, hey, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I think most of you are too.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
If we're not careful, America's gonna look more like Texas.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
That sounds pretty awesome to me.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Hey, hey, listen, Democrats, if we're not careful, the whole
nation's gonna look like Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I'm like, I live here. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
And I don't think there's anybody in the persuadable universe
that's like, Hey, we're gonna make America more like California.
I think most Americans are like, no, we're not signing
up for that. Hey, we're gonna make America more like Chicago. Yeah,
I'd rather stay alive. Hey, we're gonna make America more
like New York City. Hey, I'd rather not have a
moro on governor. And I'd actually prefer not for you
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to take half of every dollar that I make. No,
I'm good here. Buck has actually made that decision with
his own life. Born and raised New York City guy,
He's like, I can't do this anymore. I'm gonna move
to Florida. Make America Florida. Pretty good tagline. Make America Tennessee,
I like it, Make America Texas, I like it, Make
America California. I'm off the boat. I think that's the
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problem Democrats have. They're making an argument they think sells,
and in actuality, their argument was it that dog ain't hunting.
America is out on that argument, and I think this
is going to ultimately be in the wake of twenty
twenty with so many people moving. We know population numbers.
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If California, Illinois, and New York were doing so fabulously well,
everybody would be moving there. This is also, by the way,
why I think abortion politics doesn't work anymore. If people
were really troubled about abortion policy, they wouldn't be flooding
all the red states. Like if you are a twenty
five year old, twenty five year old girl, they're like, Oh,
I can't believe they're gonna put me in handcuffs and
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like arrest me if I get pregnant.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
But oh, I'm gonna move to Nashville. I want to
go out on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Oh my god, Florida's gonna put me in handcuffs if
I get pregnant.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
But South Beach is awesome. I'm moving there.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Like young girls are moving overwhelmingly to run red states.
Abortion politics is over. I'm arguing it in the new book.
Just look at what people do, not what they say.
It's a good life lesson across the board. Look, I
want to tell you we love what life's like for
me here in Tennessee, for bucking Florida, for so many
of you in Texas. Red State America is making the
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right decisions. But you know a place that's trying to
make sure that they can make the right decisions for
everybody in their country, and they're under peril right now.
The IFCJ is doing work for everybody in Israel right now,
probably as we speak, there is the danger of having
to run immediately to bomb shelters. Nobody's been able to
sleep for the last week very comfortably in Israel because
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you're constantly moving in and out of bomb shelters. Based
on what Iran's doing, I have seen for myself. I
was over in Israel, I did the radio show from
there for the IFCJ, and saw the tremendous work that
they have done. Bomb shelters, food for people in need,
being able to provide for emergency responders, safer vehicles to
be able to travel with. They do the Lord's work
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and right now you can make a tremendous difference by
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We're running, you know, through the streets of Georgetown as
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I was like, this is why I hated running. I
think it's the worst way to exercise on the planet.
And I know the runners are going to be mad
at me.
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Not right.
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Well, you know what's second to biking. I don't even
get me started on biking. Where I live. I can't
even drive on the roads now because like we don't
have bike lanes, and I just come around the corner
and there's like seven hundred and forty two guys in
a row on bikes, just out for a bike ride.
But jogging like it's it's a miserable way to get
a it's a miserable way to get exercise. And I
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don't even know, Like I maybe some of you have
something in your body where you're like, oh, you're gonna
get a runner's h I don't get a runners high.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I get runners bored.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I also don't have any sense of accomplishment when I
finish a run. Maybe I don't know. Again, Oprah is
fat and unathletic, and she ran a marathon. Any one
of you could run a marathon if you committed four thousand,
six hundred and thirty eight hours to marathon training. It's
not a revolutionary thing. You just have to do the
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same thing a lot, for many hours in a row.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
And I don't. This is probably not going to shock you.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I don't have a lot of self doubt, so I
don't need to do things to prove that I can
do things.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
I presume that I can do everything, and.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
So for the most part, I don't need to prove
to myself that I can do it.
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Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Like I feel like Runners have really low self esteem,
and it's like, oh, I don't know if I can
make that next month.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
No, you can.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
It's just really boring. So anyway, Runners, I'm sure I'm
gonna get flooded in reaction to that. But that is
the truth.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
We got so many people weighing in on my argument
that Jaws is the most influential. It's the fiftieth anniversary. Greg,
what is the best order to go to for these talkbacks?
Let's see Lewy from Galveston. You know, Galveston. I'm really
gonna make some enemies. Now, Texas should have better beaches
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than it does. I'm just saying, if you were designing Texas,
the one thing that Texas doesn't have great beaches. I
know because every one of you Texans you come to
Alabama or Florida, to the Gulf Coast, or as Senator Cruz,
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you hop on a plane and you go to Cancun.
The one thing in Senator Cruz a friend, the one thing,
and he would think that's funny.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
One thing that you don't have is great beaches. But
Louis or Lewis is listening in Galveston and he says
Jaws kept him out of the water yet well in Galveston,
of course, because the beach is not great.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
But here is jj hey clam.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
But this is Lewis from Houston, Texas, and I just
want to say that John scared me so bad when
I was a kid that I couldn't go into the
water ankle deep in Galveston Bay for years until I
realized that it wasn't really a thread. Then I seen
Psycho and it also scared me to death to even
where I had to take baths when I went to
my Grandma's house, and also Freddy from even being able
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to sleep in a dark room. God do great love
you guys.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Keep it up.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
I love all these movies, the Nightmare on Elm Street movies.
Everybody has got a movie that they saw when they
shouldn't have seen it. You were nine and you had
a thirteen year old older brother, you were seven and
you're twelve year old sister put on a movie Nightmare
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on Elm Street. I don't think they make the same
kind of scary movies like they did the Nightmare on
Elm Street. I know they make a ton of them
and they make a lot of money, but the concept
of you're gonna get killed when you go to sleep
for Nightmare on Elm Street, look, Michael Myers, Jason, they're scary,
but the idea of hey, when you go to sleep,
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you're gonna get killed, and it's gonna be in real
life is so diabolical. I'm surprised they haven't brought back
those Nightmare on Elm Street movies. They were terrifying to me,
because again, when are you most scared as a kid
in bed and you're like, well, if I just fall asleep,
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But no, Freddy's gonna kill you if you fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
I saw a story recently. I was reading it. I
was like, I don't know how this kid's ever gonna
sleep for the rest of his life. Did you guys
see the story?
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Kids said there's somebody underneath my bed. I mean, I
getting chills even talking about this. Kids said there's somebody
underneath my bed. Babysitter was like, oh, okay, you're gonna
be fine. I'll look underneath and I'll be damned if
there wasn't a crazy person underneath that kid's bed. Well,
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when do you look up where this happened. I don't
know how that kid's ever gonna sleep for the rest
of his life. Can you imagine, Hey, there's somebody under
my bed. You're the babysitter, You're like, oh, it's gonna
be fine, and you look underneath and somebody's I think
I would die.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
I'm a grown man. I got three kids.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
I think if one of my kids had been like, Daddy,
there's somebody uneath my bed, and I've been like, no,
you're gonna be fine, and then you're like, you're tired,
you're trying to get them to sleep, Like you roll
over and you look underneath and there's somebody underneath the bed.
I think I would have had I don't think I
could have saved my kids. I think I would have
just had a heart attack right there. I'd have been
so scared that either somebody underneath my bed, there's there's
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somebody actually there. That doesn't even seem like it should
be fair, That doesn't even seem like it should be allowed.
You should never be able to get underneath the kid's
bed and actually be there, even if you're a bad,
even if you're a killer, like, at least be a
man and come at me without being underneath the bed first.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
But this is unfair Lynn and Harrisburg.
Speaker 9 (52:40):
What you got for me so acally, the most influential
film is not influential enough. I'm twenty nine. I've never
seen Jaws. I would say Raiders, The Lost Art or
A New Hope. Star Wars is a lot more influential,
both of which I've watched. Love You, I don't otherwise see.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
I don't know how Lynn has managed to be twenty
nine years old and never have seen Jaws. It's gonna
be on NBC tonight. They should have paid me to
promote that. It's free. NBC is a show that you
can watch with an antenna. It is not streaming. It
is not I feel like I have to explain this
now because I was talking to that guy's daughter and
she was like, now, how does the radio work? So
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when you say radio, what I mean the thing that's
in your car on the dash, Like I talk out
of that when you push the button and it comes on.
That's how a lot of people hear me. But from
my phone, how would I hear you on my phone?
That was my conversation a couple days ago, and I
hope she's managed to figure out how the radio works.
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But look, I like Star Wars, I love Raiders of
the Lost Arc. The best Raiders of the Lost Arc
movie is The Last Crusade with Sean Connery and Indiana Jones.
Phenomenal film, but I don't think it's anywhere near as influential.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
I went to Israel.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
I wasn't expecting to find the Arc of the Covenant,
right like I wasn't like, well, this isn't really old church.
Let me go in there. Maybe the Ark of the
Covenant's going to be there. But if I had gone
into the ocean in Israel, I would have thought Jaws
might kill me. It's very different, right if I went
to tour the Pyramids, I wouldn't think to myself, well,
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maybe this is the where the Arc is stored. But
I would think if I got to an Egyptian beach,
I would be worried about the crocodiles in the Nile,
but I would also be worried about sharks there. So
I think I think if Lynn from Harrisburg watched, he
would actually agree with me and realize that he was
wrong and millions of people just hurt his wrongness. Art
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from Cleveland. What you got for me?
Speaker 2 (54:46):
This is art from Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I think the most influential movie maybe China Syndrome.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
It scared the world away from nuclear power. I don't
think that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Didn't Three Mile Island have some sort of nuclear skins
back in the day. We should be using nuclear power
way more than we are. It's actually way safer, and
we haven't because people just bought into catastrophe. This is
my thing with self driving cars. Any I think Elon
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Musk gets this. I took the way mow out in
San Francisco. I told you guys, I felt like I
was in the future. The problem with self driving cars
is whenever a self driving car makes an error, everybody
is going to talk about it. It is going to
be everywhere. That video of the self driving car doing
something wrong. Your wife hitting forty eight vehicles trying to
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go to the grocery store not gonna go viral. My wife,
big SUV. If you see her on the street, I
would suggest just pull over like there's a funeral coming by.
I'm not sure she's gonna stay on her side of
the road. She's not very good. Car's too big for
a lot of women. Big cars. Cantanna.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Rob in Palm Beach, What you got.
Speaker 7 (56:02):
I'm from South Florida. My dad was a marine taxidermist
for a company called Fluger, which is out of business,
but he was responsible for making the original Jaws head.
It was pretty cool to see as a kid, very terrifying.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
I mean, this is maybe the greatest talkback ever. Rob's
just like, yeah, you know the movie Jaws, super powerful,
super impactful. My dad made the head. Just picks up
his phone drops in a That's amazing. See if we
can get Rob from Palm Beach on I think that
would be a fun story. Dave in Cincinnati, what you
got for us?
Speaker 3 (56:37):
Hey, Clay, this is David Cincinnati. I used to be
a history teacher and I would show Quint's Soliloquy on
the USS Indianapolis, and, knowing most of the kids had
never seen Jaws, I'd started at the scene where the
shark shows up for the first time, and there is
nothing better than hearing thirty desks just all squeak flying
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backwards at the sign of the shark, and I knew
they were hooked for my lesson of the day.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
That's really great.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
All right, let me hit one more here and then
we'll go to break and then we will play a
couple of cuts from Jaws and take a couple more
of your calls. But this is a Friday edition, fifty
year anniversary. You guys are fantastic. I love these talkback functions.
Super fast. Give me thirty seconds, give me your best
thirty seconds. Got a joke there about marriage MJ from Carlsbad.
What you got for me?
Speaker 2 (57:29):
I'm sixty seven years old in a lifelong surfer. I
never saw Jaws never. For that reason.
Speaker 6 (57:37):
I wanted to remain in the water my whole life.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
And I've been chase out of water by a shark
on quiet, so yeah, I know a little bit about sharks.
Speaker 7 (57:44):
So yeah, never saw it.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Never will I don't blame him for never seeing I
haven't shown it to my kids.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
They may have seen Jaws, but because we go to
the beach quite regularly and they are afraid of sharks
because it's kind of embedded in the culture. But I
was like, I talked about this with my wife, So
we can never show them Jaws, especially now when they're young,
they will never get in the water. I was afraid
to swim in a swimming pool at night after I
(58:11):
saw Jaws. A swimming pool at night, couldn't see the bottom.
I was like, as not for me, And some of
y'all are like, yeah, I didn't get in the lake.
You got kids right now. They're gonna see Jaws tonight
on NBC. You're gonna be like, you're done for don't
even try to get him in the water. That is
not happening after they see that movie. I think it's
still going to be super impactful, even with the crazy
(58:32):
fake Jaws head that our boy just called in and
said that his dad made.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
That's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
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Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I
hope all of you are hanging out with us and
headed into the weekend for a fabulous weekend. Buck, I
believe is still on the French Riviera. I don't know
when he officially flies back, but this morning I was
doing prep for the show, and I was reading about
(00:23):
all the super fancy parties that he has been attending
and all of the flagrant excess advertising universe that has
been engaged in can for the past week. So I
can't wait to hear what he is going to have
to say about life on the French Riviera when he
returns to the radio with me on Monday. But I've
(00:44):
enjoyed hanging out with all of you throughout the course
of this week. We will be back together again on
the Monday edition of the program, and I'll actually be
up in Michigan. We've got a brand new, awesome affiliate
in the northern Michigan area, Traverse City in particular. I
know that a lot of you are listening in that area,
and I'll be broadcasting from Traverse City, Michigan, which is
(01:07):
one of my favorite places in the United States.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
In the summer.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Absolutely fantastic up there, So look forward to seeing some
of you running around in the Michigan area. My wife
of course from Michigan. So we're gonna be up there
with some friends and family, and I'll be doing the
program with all of you there, and look forward to
meeting a new affiliate in Traverse City and many of
you that may be getting used to listening to us there.
(01:30):
All right, we're gonna have some fun. It is the
fiftieth anniversary of Jaws, the release of the movie Jaws
nineteen seventy five. That movie came out. I would suggest
to you, and we're gonna dive into this later, but
you guys can already start to lose your minds or say,
you know what, Clay, you're actually brilliant. This under percent truth.
(01:51):
I think Jaws is the most influential movie that has
ever been made in the history of film. And when
I say that, I don't mean that it's the best.
I don't mean that it had changed the conversation on politics,
or that it led to freedom, or it led to
any massive societal change. When I say the most influential,
(02:16):
I mean that there is almost no one that has
ever watched that movie that has not thought about Jaws
at a minimum when you go to the beach, and
I bet there are a lot of you who, even
when you have been jumping in lakes, and even maybe
when you've been in swimming pools after watching Jaws, actually thought, oh, man,
(02:40):
I hope there's not a great white shark that is
going to eat me during the course of this swim
fresh water lakes, not even big lakes, like lakes where
you can see the boundary. I remember after watching Jaws,
when I was a little kid swimming in a pool
at night. I was like, Oh, there may be a
shark in here. And it wasn't in Florida, by the way,
(03:00):
where I was like, oh, there may be an alligator
in here. So we'll have some fun with that fiftieth
anniversary Friday edition at a minimum in the third hour,
no guest scheduled. You guys have been killing it on
the talkbacks, so we will have a bunch of fun
with those as well. All that headed this direction. But
I saw this morning as I was doing my prep
(03:23):
what fell. And by the way, we'll update you to
the extent that there's any movement at all on the
absolute latest as it pertains to what's going on with
Iran in Israel. So far, it does not appear there
have been massive changes since we talked to you yesterday
and shared the news that Trump had said there's a
two week window and we'll see how that's going to
shake out. Okay, So let me dive into something that
(03:46):
I thought was significant as I was doing my pre
reading prep today. We have talked about the big Supreme
Court decision that came down on Wednesday that said the
state of Tennessee has the right to keep young minor
children from having so called gender altering surgeries, however you
want to classify it. That is, potentially your genitals could
(04:08):
be chopped off because you happen to think you're a
boy or a girl, or vice versa, which is different
than the body that you were actually. In front page
story from the primary, I would still say Democrat mouthpiece
in media. The New York Times headline, Democrats' wary response
to transgender ruling shows the party's retreat. That's the headline
(04:33):
today's front page New York Times. While some in the
party denounced the Supreme Court's decision, other top leaders remained quiet,
underscoring the party's discomfort on the issue. Another way of
talking about this would be that Democrats have been proven
wrong on this, And I just thought this entire article
(04:56):
was very interesting. Leading Democrats opening sentence offered a a
slow trickle of critical reaction on Wednesday to the Supreme
Court's decision upholding a state ban on some transgender care
for youth.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Hours after the ruling arrived, some top Democrats like Chuck
Schumer had statements. But you know, Chuck Schumer is never
going to run for president of the United States. He
represents the Senate Democrat coalition, and so that didn't really
surprise me. But here is the third paragraph. Many others,
including key players in the twenty twenty eight shadow primary race,
(05:35):
had yet to weigh in. Gavin Newsom, at least at
the time that this was written.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania nothing. Wes Moore of Maryland nothing.
Asked for comment. Representatives for all three governors said they
were not issuing any statements on the decision for now.
This is what victory looks like. They also reached out
(06:04):
to the to mayor Pete, to other people, and by
and large, this was again to a great degree ignored,
and at the front page article again in the New
York Times points to and I've been thinking about this
ad quite a lot because I've got a new book
(06:25):
coming out. It's called Ball's ba Lls about how Trump
won men and sports fans and how we all saved
the nation in twenty twenty four. Very understated as you
in case you're wondering, also has two big pictures of
basketballs on the cover. You guys are gonna love it.
There's gonna be a lot of people that lose their
mind over it. It's gonna be out in November, and
(06:49):
the book basically argues that young men, sports fans, and
Trump saved America in twenty twenty four. And one of
the parts of the book is this front page article,
Kamala is for they them, President Trump is for you.
I would submit to you that that might be the
(07:10):
single most effective political ad that any presidential candidate has
run in my life. I know there's been a lot
of them, but the data reflects that that ad that
Kamala is for they them, President Trump is for you. Uh.
Because I've been doing research on it for the book
moved in the favorable direction towards Trump two point seven points.
(07:36):
It worked well for moms, white moms, It worked well
for black and Hispanic men. Those were groups that were
particularly impacted by that ad, which I think speaks to
the scope of disgust that has settled in now. Men
competing in women's sports is a part of it. But
(07:58):
I would argue the far more significant component to this is, hey,
if your son is fifteen and thinks he's a girl,
we should chop his penis off. I mean, that is
Democrat orthodoxy right now, but they are getting rejected nationwide.
Front page credit to the Supreme Court, but front page
(08:18):
news in the New York Times pointing out that Democrats
are now running from this issue. And the other thing
that I thought signed in here was there is a
new poll out from Coefficient talking about who are the
favorites for Democrat presidential nomination in twenty twenty eight. I
(08:40):
just mentioned some of them to you there. Kamala Harris
twenty six percent, support, Gavin Newsom twenty one percent, support
AOC fourteen percent, support Mayor Pete eleven percent, Walls ten percent,
Josh Shapiro three percent. That's the top six. I would
(09:03):
submit to you that the top five here. You can
clip this, you can save it. You can call me
a moron if I'm wrong. On early November of twenty
twenty eight, Kamala Harris, Gavin new Some, AOC mayor, Pete,
and Tim Walls, they have a zero percent chance of
being elected President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
They may be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm not saying that that's impossible, but I think Kamala Harris,
Gavin new Some, AOC mayor, Pete, and Tim Walls have
a zero percent chance. Now, Josh Shapiro, Governor of Pennsylvania.
Problem he has, unfortunately for him, is he's Jewish, and
a large contingent of the Democrat base doesn't like Jewish people.
(09:44):
That's going to be voting in the primary. That's why
I think he wasn't the nominee as vice president, so
that's an issue for him. I think Wes Moore is
gonna run. Wes Moore, I think has been making some
solidly strategic moves, very popular Maryland governor. Not a crazy person.
I know he's been reaching out to President Trump frequently
(10:04):
and they actually have a decent relationship. I think Trump
would tell you that, and Wes Moore has a military
athletes background. He's not a pussy willow like a lot
of Democrats, and frankly, a lot of people don't know him. Uh,
And so I think that helps. But I don't think
anybody with a major public profile that is a Democrat
(10:28):
right now can get elected in twenty twenty eight because
they've all gone over the woke waterfall and they've embraced
such crazy what I would say is fundamentally rejected by
most reasonable American positions. And that was, you know, the
Kamalas for the them, Trump's for you ad really built
off the idea that Kamala Harris said that illegal immigrants
(10:52):
should get transsurgeries paid for by taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
She supported that.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And I think that Democrats have had to so report
so many ridiculous stories and just flagrantly ridiculous positions that
I think a lot of currently elected Democrats have a
zero percent chance of being able to be elected nationwide.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
JB.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Pritzker, Illinois governor, no chance. Gretchen Whitmercy's kind of got
a Cruela Deville look about her. I think it's unlikely.
I think she would expose herself on the national stage.
I also don't think that Democrats are going to nominate
a woman because of what's happened to Hillary and Kamala,
and I think they recognize that that is probably not
(11:36):
a good direction to go. But I think the bigger
issue they have is they're wrong on all the issues.
So they need someone who is either not a politician,
they need their own version of Trump, somebody who comes
out of the woodwork. Look out for George Clooney. I
think he's a moron. Some of you may have seen
us going back and forth, but Mark Cuban, I'm going
to talk about this a little bit. Evidently, Kamala Harris
(11:58):
strongly considered him to be her vice presidential running mate.
But I do think that there's going to be a
lot of rich guys that make the decision. Hey, on
the Democrat side, I could be the Democrat version of Trump.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I could be a disruptor.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I could sort of scatter the ridiculousness and absurdity, shatter
once and for all the woke universe. I think you're
going to see a lot of people making that move.
And I was thinking about it as you are seeing
right now Democrats scurry from positions that would have been
party orthodoxy just a couple of years ago. I think
(12:38):
they've recognized that the trans thing has gone too far.
I think most people I'm talking about middle of the
road voters will say, Okay, you know, if you're a
grown man or a grown woman and you want to
dress up and pretend that you're a different gender because
it makes you happier. Okay, if you're a grown man
or grown woman and you want to have surgery to
(13:00):
try in some way alter your appearance so you appear
to not be the gender. I think that's increasingly getting
harder to defend. I think just based on the health
related risk, but I think most people are saying, okay,
but you come for children. That's a line that we
are not going to allow to be touched. And I
(13:20):
also think the men and women's sports crystallizes that at
some point the logical limits of inclusion are reached, and
when you go too far, you begin to exclude people
in the name of inclusion. That is, when you're saying, hey,
this man deserves to be able to compete in women's sports,
(13:41):
you're knocking women out of being able to compete in
women's sports. So you want to be inclusive. I think
them talking about middle of the road voters that are
open but not to the point of exclusion, and I
think that's where we are. And I thought that was
interesting Front page New York Times. Many of the top
contenders for the Democrat nomination are not criticizing that Supreme
(14:03):
Court decision. We'll talk more about that. We'll have some
fun as we roll through the Friday edition of the program.
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Speaker 1 (15:26):
We got a lot of people weighing in on a
variety of different subjects. Latest on Iran Israel. We will
dive into Buck. We'll be back with me on Monday,
traveling back from France where he has been on the
French rivi Era. We will have a lot of your
weigh ins on a variety of different topics. Eight hundred
and two A two two eight eight two. We're having
funds fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. My argument is it's the
(15:49):
most influential movie ever made. Also by the way it
launched the summer blockbuster era. For those of you who
around my age, it's very commonplace. You would get out
of school and there would be a roster of incredibly
big blockbuster movies that were all ready to roll. And
(16:11):
that is now super commonplace. But back in the day,
the idea was, oh, summer is kind of a wall
in the box office. People are traveling, it's not the
time when movies are going to take off. And that
changed with Jaws and the summer blockbuster phenomenon. So fiftieth anniversary,
it is, by the way, airing for free on something
(16:32):
called over the air television. That is free for everybody
on NBC at eight o'clock Eastern. So if you've never
if you're one of the only people out there whos
never seen Jaws, tonight and you are capable of figuring
out how to put on NBC, it will be free
tonight for everybody to watch on the fiftieth anniversary.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
So what's a break?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Well, to start the show, I was running through the
fact that Democrats who hope to be the nomine twenty
twenty eight are mostly ignoring the Wednesday Supreme Court case
on the transgender kid issue, which was decided six to
three in favor of the state of Tennessee being able
to prohibit these treatments. They're pretending that that ruling did
(17:19):
not happen. Let me also point out, along with many
other issues out there, if Trump hadn't won the twenty
sixteen election, this probably would have been a five to
four decision. Tennessee is not able to stop kids from
having trans surgery. I know sometimes that gets lost in
(17:45):
the overall larger geopolitical picture, But the most consequential thing
in terms of being able to look at the Supreme
Court for generations to come, was Trump's twenty sixteen one win,
because without that, a lot of these six to three
common sense decisions may well have been five to four
(18:09):
crazy left wing decisions, and a state like Tennessee might
not have been able to say, hey, we're not going
to let fifteen year olds chop off their boobs or
their penises. That is child abuse and we think it's
not a actual medical treatment. So I know sometimes that
gets lost in the shuffle, but Trump one point zero.
(18:32):
If he doesn't win and Hillary is in office, a
lot of these rulings that have come down are very,
very different, and I think it's worth keeping in mind
as we look ahead, Supreme Court justices are on the
court for life. But some of these guys and gals
are getting up there into their seventies, into their high seventies.
(18:53):
And you only have to look at Ruth Bader Ginsburg
to point to that and say, hey, you gotta be
careful about staying on for too long, because you may
not make it to where you're in a position where
somebody who has a judicial philosophy like yours is going
(19:14):
to be replacing you. And so in the case of
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, you end up with Amy Cony Barrett,
who is in the majority on this six to three decision.
I would like to think Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have
been smart enough, because she is an old school liberal,
to have looked at a story like this and said,
this is crazy. She's a mom, this is outrageous to
(19:36):
allow fourteen and fifteen year olds to do this. But
the Democrat orthodoxy and the far left wing woke ideology
is very strong in many of these individuals, and I'm
not sure necessarily that that would have occurred. Okay, I
want to play for you. Barack Obama has decided to
go back out on the interview circuit, and I believe
(19:57):
this was a Connecticut event where he was sitting and
he was talking, and he's talking about misinformation and disinformation,
And I want to just play this cut for you,
and then I want to lay out a thesis that
I think is underlying why Obama is suddenly becoming more
outspoken a bit.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Let's listen.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Our biggest founds right now is we need democracy and
social cohesion.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And trust.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
More than ever, and it's probably as weak as it's
been since I've been alive. And that's a bad combination.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Okay, I don't actually buy that that's true because Barack Obama.
What year was Barack Obama born? Guys, will you look
that up? I think Barack Obama was alive in nineteen
sixty eight, which I would argue for most people out
there is the craziest year of most of our lives.
I would actually put twenty twenty in second place in
(21:03):
many ways in terms of eras, the COVID twenty twenty
BLM protest, George Floyd, insanity, all of that is right
up there with nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
They echo with each other.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But I think Barack Obama would have been alive in
nineteen sixty eight. I believe that I'm accurate on that
because I think that Barack Obama is about fifteen years
older than me and is the oldest born in nineteen
sixty one. So yeah, he may not remember it well,
(21:35):
but he was certainly alive for that. What's behind Obama?
Let me it's a funny one. Let me actually dive
in here for a minute and tell you where I
think all this is coming from. So I think that
Obama believed that his two thousand and eight win and
(21:57):
his twenty twelve win was good going to make him
one of the most transformative figures in American history from
a presidential perspective, and I think he was quite confident
in that, and I think he was quite proud of
it that he is the first non white president half black,
(22:18):
half lite the white half evidently doesn't count, but first
non white president. And I think he was of the
opinion that his election in the twenty first century was
going to turn into a transformative moment and that in
the generations to come he would echo even more, that
(22:38):
he would become even more of an iconic figure. I
don't think it's happened, and I think he is looking
now at Donald Trump because we just had the ten
year anniversary of Trump coming down the escalator and announcing
that he was going to run for president in twenty
sixteen the election site, and now Trump has been elected
(23:03):
twice and he's going to be in office as long
as he stays healthy until January of twenty twenty nine.
And Trump two point zero, I think has the potential
to be one of the most impactful and consequential terms
in office that we have ever seen. And if you
(23:23):
just use the first one hundred and fifty ish days
of Trump two point zero as a proxy. I actually
asked Buck this when we walked out of the Oval
office last week.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
What is Trump even going to do by year three?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
He's moving so fast and obviously one of the challenges
of being president is there many different issues that arise
that you're not really in control of. COVID is a
great example in twenty twenty because I think Trump was
on pace to have the greatest economy in the history
of the world. And if COVID doesn't suddenly land in
March of twenty twenty, even if it landed in March
(24:00):
of twenty twenty one instead of March of twenty twenty,
if it doesn't land right in the middle of an
American presidential election cycle. I think Trump would have rowed
that economy in twenty twenty no matter what sort of
Shenanigan's Democrats tried. I think he would have ridden that
into an incredibly successful twenty twenty election campaign. And I
(24:22):
think he would have crushed Joe Biden. I don't think
it would have even been remotely close, because remember it
would have been they would have not been able to
hide Biden, they wouldn't have been able to send him
to the basement. Biden's frailties would have been in stark
contrast with Trump's virility, and I don't even think the
election would have been close. I think Democrats got thrown
(24:44):
a life veest and it saved what would have otherwise
been a metaphorically drowning Biden twenty twenty campaign, and I
think a lot of them in retrospect now see that.
I think it's why they played up the fear of
COVID all those other things, because I think they recognize
that they would have lost and it would not have
been particularly close in twenty twenty. But if Trump had
(25:05):
won in twenty twenty. I actually think his impact would
be far less consequential than it has been in this
term starting in twenty twenty five, and I think Obama's
having that realization. I think Obama is suddenly looking around
and saying, Okay, if you just think about presidents in
the last two generations, Ronald Reagan had a transformative presidency.
(25:29):
I know the Berlin Wall came down in George hw
Bush's tenure. A lot of people forget about that in
nineteen eighty nine, but Reagan had a transformative presidency. In
my life, I would put Reagan as the most transformative president.
Bill Clinton, I think, had a highly successful presidency, and
I know people out there are like, yeah, well, leave
(25:52):
aside the Intern. As I've said for some time, I
would rather a president screw an Intern than the whole country. Okay,
if Biden screwed the whole country. He may not have
screwed an Intern, but he screwed the whole country instead.
If you're around my age, most of us who grew
up and I'm forty six, most of us who grew
up in the eighties and nineties feel like America was
(26:14):
pretty awesome in the eighties and nineties. That entire generation
of kids that grew up in the eighties and nineties.
I'm not saying we're perfect, but it was a sort
of a pre internet world where you could just get
let out on your own. Like I laugh about this now,
(26:35):
but I rode the school bus home from my public school.
My parents both worked. They just gave me a mace
canister on the keychain. I was ten, and they were like, hey,
if anybody tries to kidnap, you just spray them with mace.
If I suggested that about my ten year old right now,
(26:57):
my wife would strangle me. What we let kids do
in the seventies, eighties, and nineties, and don't even get
me started, I'm sure in the fifties and sixties. And
then my mom says, when she was growing up in Chattanooga, Tennessee,
they had ponies, and her mom would just be like, hey,
you and your brother, get on your ponies and just
(27:18):
be back before dark. You got on a horse and
just rode off into the distance in Chattanooga, Tennessee in
the nineteen fifties, and my grandma was just like, yeah,
just make sure you're back before dark. Do you know
how far you could go on a horse, and they're
just like, hey, you'll be fine. You're eight, Get on
the horse, just ride around for a while.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We'll see you later. Take a pack lunch.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
So I could see why my mom thought, well, he's
just riding the school bus. It's super safe. But you know,
protectionism of kids has grown immensely. But I think most
people look back at the eighties and nineties and they say, Okay,
the Reagan era, the Clinton era, most people were pretty
happy in the country. And then I think, and this
is where you know, I'm gonna have to dive into
(28:05):
this because some of you've made disagree. But I think
George W. Bush was an unmitigated disaster. Came in with
a balanced budget, nine to eleven, happens we end up
in war with Iraq. Dick Cheney's a disaster. That's why
I think the idea that Liz Cheney endorsed Kamala, A
lot of you are like, good, Dick Cheney's the worst
(28:25):
vice president in the history of the United States. I'm
gonna have to expound on this thesis. But I think
what Obama is slowly starting to recognize is that what
he thought was going to be a transformative presidency that
was the story of the twenty first century. In terms
of excellent leadership, he has been totally overtaken by Trump.
(28:47):
Trump is far more consequential and far more successful than
Obama ever would have been. And it's a direct result
of Obama's failed policies that Trump was enabled. And even
beyond that, I think there's an argument that the only
reason Trump even got into office was because Obama taunted
him and Trump said, screw this, I'm not staying on
(29:10):
the sidelines anymore. So Obama might have chosen the method
of his own destruction, just like in Ghostbusters, and it's Trump,
and I think Obama's starting to recognize it. We'll come back,
we'll talk about this more. But maybe you need some
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lot of different stories out there. Let me update you
on the latest reports that talks in Europe with Iran
have failed. Iran is really kind of playing this in
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an interesting way. At any point, all of their leadership
could be wiped out only by the grace of God.
And basically Israeli fighter plans are they still alive at all?
Yet they appear to be refusing to negotiate. I don't
know what the historical analogy for this would be, but
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Iran failing to reach any sort of agreement in Europe.
And here's the bigger picture issue that I've been talking
about quite some time. You can never trust this Iranian leadership.
They want nuclear weapons. It makes imminent logical sense for
them to have nuclear weapons because it would preserve their
political power forever, potentially, much like has happened with North Korea.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So anything they.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Tell you is likely to be a lie, and you
cannot negotiate with them in good faith at all. So
that is the latest on Iran and Israel. As I
mentioned yesterday, Trump said he will decide in the next
two weeks whether or not to go in with the
big bunker buster bomb, among other things.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And I do think probably the worst job in the world.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
To have right now is working in that four dough
nuclear mountain site.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Your job may not be great.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You might be listening to me right now, hunched over
in your cubicle, pretending to be working on your TPS reports,
But odds are you're not also thinking, Hey, at any moment,
a bomb might wipe out my entire business.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
It's Friday afternoon in many parts of the country. You're
probably ready for the weekend to be here. You may
hate your job, but I'm here to tell you the
guys working in the Iranian nuclear mountain factory they got
a job than you. They're just showing up. At any
moment they might get blown up. That seems like not
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an ideal job to have. Maybe the worst in the
world right now. The Ninth Circuit this was I haven't
spent much time on this because there's so many district
court judges, six hundred some odd of them, and they're
about half of them hate Trump, and they're constantly coming
out with anti Trump rulings. The latest that happened was
a district Federal District Court judge in California said Trump
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couldn't call out the National Guard Evidently that judge has
no idea what actually the supremacy clause means, which is
the National Guard is controlled by the national leader aka Trump.
And now the Ninth Circuit, including I believe it's an
Obama appointee as well, has ruled three to zero that
Trump controls the National Guard and is able to deploy
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them in Los Angeles. This is not a very complicated
legal issues. Some legal issues are very complicated. Evidently Gavin
Newsom is going to continue to appeal that there is
also so Trump is going to win that one. I
will tell you anyone with a functional brain who is
basic knowledge of the law will tell you so.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Exulting because one random district court judge said that he
controlled the California National Guard, not Trump, was laughably absurd,
and I think it's been.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Exposed to be such.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
A judge has also ordered again these district court judges
have emerged as the as the peak of the Trump
two point zero opposition, the peak of the spear, as
it were. And a federal judge in New Jersey has
ordered that my Mood Khalil, three months after the former
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Columbia student was detained, should be released so anyway that
will be appealed. Federal district court judges, about half of
them hate Trump, and they will try to enter in
place nationwide injunctions or rulings that will apply.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Nationwide that are of a substantial nature. So that is.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Where we are with the current breaking news stories of
the day. Now, I wanted to hit you with a
couple of other things that are out there. We've been
talking about Obama being usurped by Trump as by far
the most consequential figure that is out there. I also
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told you it is the fiftieth anniversary of the release
of the movie Jaws. It initially came out in nineteen
seventy five. We've been having some fun with this. Many
of you guys want to react to the impact of
Jaws in your life. I'm arguing it's the most influential
movie of all time, not because it is the best
movie of all time, but just because it impact people's
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thoughts and decisions in life more than any movie that
has been released I think of all time. So we'll
have some fun with that here in the third hour.
As is the fiftieth anniversary. You guys can tee off
on me, or you can agree a lot of different people,
but I didn't want to play this cut for you
because I think it's emblematic of the failure of Democrats
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to really understand the world in which we are living
right now. Maxwell Frost, who is a congressman from Florida,
right the Orlando area, I believe team look that up
and make sure that I'm right, says Hey, he's got
a big fear the United States is at risk of
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turning into Florida. This is cut thirty three.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Listen, you know, this fight against far right neo fascism,
for me at least, was mainly taking stage in my
home in Florida, fighting against Ronda Santis and the extremism there.
And something I always told people is that the Project
twenty twenty five is actually Florida twenty twenty two, Florida
twenty twenty and the stuff that's going on around the
country right now, we've actually been dealing with in the
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South for a long time, especially in my state of Florida.
So the difference is it's like the struggle in my
state has kind of been just spread throughout the nation.
And honestly, that day after Election Day had a hard
time getting up.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Okay, So I think this is really very interesting, honestly,
because ultimately the debate that I believe we're going to
have is going to move beyond Trump.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Now, it doesn't mean that again by.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
The midterms twenty twenty seven, the twenty twenty eight election
cycle is going to be underway. And I don't think
this is a bad way of distilling what that argument
is going to be. And I think the problem Democrats
have is they're on the wrong side of a really
bad argument. If you had to say, hey, which two
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states right now are the avatar of Republican and Democrat
belief systems writ large, Which individual state represents Red state America,
Which individual state represents Blue state America. I think that
(38:17):
Florida under Governor Ron De Santis would be the avatar
for Red state America. Now you could argue Texas, you
could argue Tennessee. I would argue that those three are
probably the trio the triangle of Hey, this is what
red state America represents. And I would actually argue that
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Florida probably is the best. Now, why would I say
that no state income tax in Florida, no state income
tax in Tennessee, no state income tax in Texas, so
incredibly low tax states, very dynamic economies, rapidly growing populations,
all Republican governors with some Democrats, cities in there, but
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overwhelmingly having become more read since twenty twenty. Now a
lot of you live in different states. You might argue
with me. I think I'm right in saying that if
I had to pick a trifecta of states that represents
what red state governance can be, Florida, Tennessee and Texas
would be the trio, and Florida would be the avatar
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if you had to pick one state of Hey, this
is what big red state policies can dori at large.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Okay, what about the Blue states?
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I think California would probably have to be the avatar
for what blue state policies lead to, and Gavin Newsom
would be the mirror image, right, the opposite side of
what's going on in red state Florida with Ron DeSantis.
And you could say, if you had to pick three states,
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I mean, look, there are many blue states that I
think have been driven insane. You could add Oregon in Washington,
but then that's just a Pacific Coast universe. So I
think you would probably want to say, California, Illinois, and
New York would be the blue state avatars, three big
states that Democrats control basically top to bottom. The problem
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that Democrats have is they think Americans still want to
look like what is going on in California, and I
think overwhelmingly Americans want to look like what's going on
in Tennessee, Texas and Florida. I think the representative argument
here is not a good one, and Maxwell Frost is
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actually making it directly there that Congressman, hey, look out,
America might end up like Florida. I think a lot
of Americans are like, yeah, that sounds pretty good. And
Gavin Newsom is still out there arguing, Hey, America needs
to look like California. I think the problem for Gavin
Newsom is most Americans don't agree. Now, Blue state America may,
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but the seven swing states, the people that are out
there in the middle open to being persuaded. They're making
that argument directly. The problem is they're making the argument
in the wrong direction. Look Out, America's gonna look like Florida.
I'm like, hey, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I think most of you are too.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
If we're not careful, America's gonna look more like Texas.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
That sounds pretty awesome to me.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Hey, hey, listen, Democrats, if we're not careful, the whole
nation's gonna look like Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I'm like, I live here. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
And I don't think there's anybody in the persuadable universe
that's like, Hey, we're gonna make America more like California.
I think most Americans are like, no, we're not signing
up for that. Hey, we're gonna make America more like Chicago. Yeah,
I'd rather stay alive. Hey, we're gonna make America more
like New York City. Hey, I'd rather not have a
moro on governor. And I'd actually prefer not for you
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to take half of every dollar that I make. No,
I'm good here. Buck has actually made that decision with
his own life. Born and raised New York City guy,
He's like, I can't do this anymore. I'm gonna move
to Florida. Make America Florida. Pretty good tagline. Make America Tennessee,
I like it, Make America Texas, I like it, Make
America California. I'm off the boat. I think that's the
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problem Democrats have. They're making an argument they think sells,
and in actuality, their argument was it that dog ain't hunting.
America is out on that argument, and I think this
is going to ultimately be in the wake of twenty
twenty with so many people moving. We know population numbers.
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If California, Illinois, and New York were doing so fabulously well,
everybody would be moving there. This is also, by the way,
why I think abortion politics doesn't work anymore. If people
were really troubled about abortion policy, they wouldn't be flooding
all the red states. Like if you are a twenty
five year old, twenty five year old girl, they're like, Oh,
I can't believe they're gonna put me in handcuffs and
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like arrest me if I get pregnant.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
But oh, I'm gonna move to Nashville. I want to
go out on Broadway.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Oh my god, Florida's gonna put me in handcuffs if
I get pregnant.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
But South Beach is awesome. I'm moving there.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Like young girls are moving overwhelmingly to run red states.
Abortion politics is over. I'm arguing it in the new book.
Just look at what people do, not what they say.
It's a good life lesson across the board. Look, I
want to tell you we love what life's like for
me here in Tennessee, for bucking Florida, for so many
of you in Texas. Red State America is making the
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right decisions. But you know a place that's trying to
make sure that they can make the right decisions for
everybody in their country, and they're under peril right now.
The IFCJ is doing work for everybody in Israel right now,
probably as we speak, there is the danger of having
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on what Iran's doing, I have seen for myself. I
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they have done. Bomb shelters, food for people in need,
being able to provide for emergency responders, safer vehicles to
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We're running, you know, through the streets of Georgetown as
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I was like, this is why I hated running. I
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And I know the runners are going to be mad
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Not right.
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Well, you know what's second to biking. I don't even
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even drive on the roads now because like we don't
have bike lanes, and I just come around the corner
and there's like seven hundred and forty two guys in
a row on bikes, just out for a bike ride.
But jogging like it's it's a miserable way to get
a it's a miserable way to get exercise. And I
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don't even know, Like I maybe some of you have
something in your body where you're like, oh, you're gonna
get a runner's h I don't get a runners high.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I get runners bored.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
I also don't have any sense of accomplishment when I
finish a run. Maybe I don't know. Again, Oprah is
fat and unathletic, and she ran a marathon. Any one
of you could run a marathon if you committed four thousand,
six hundred and thirty eight hours to marathon training. It's
not a revolutionary thing. You just have to do the
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same thing a lot, for many hours in a row.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
And I don't. This is probably not going to shock you.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
I don't have a lot of self doubt, so I
don't need to do things to prove that I can
do things.
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I presume that I can do everything, and.
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So for the most part, I don't need to prove
to myself that I can do it.
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Does that make sense?
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Like I feel like Runners have really low self esteem,
and it's like, oh, I don't know if I can
make that next month.
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No, you can.
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It's just really boring. So anyway, Runners, I'm sure I'm
gonna get flooded in reaction to that. But that is
the truth.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
We got so many people weighing in on my argument
that Jaws is the most influential. It's the fiftieth anniversary. Greg,
what is the best order to go to for these talkbacks?
Let's see Lewy from Galveston. You know, Galveston. I'm really
gonna make some enemies. Now, Texas should have better beaches
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than it does. I'm just saying, if you were designing Texas,
the one thing that Texas doesn't have great beaches. I
know because every one of you Texans you come to
Alabama or Florida, to the Gulf Coast, or as Senator Cruz,
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you hop on a plane and you go to Cancun.
The one thing in Senator Cruz a friend, the one thing,
and he would think that's funny.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
I think the.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
One thing that you don't have is great beaches. But
Louis or Lewis is listening in Galveston and he says
Jaws kept him out of the water yet well in Galveston,
of course, because the beach is not great.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
But here is jj hey clam.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
But this is Lewis from Houston, Texas, and I just
want to say that John scared me so bad when
I was a kid that I couldn't go into the
water ankle deep in Galveston Bay for years until I
realized that it wasn't really a thread. Then I seen
Psycho and it also scared me to death to even
where I had to take baths when I went to
my Grandma's house, and also Freddy from even being able
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to sleep in a dark room. God do great love
you guys.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Keep it up.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
I love all these movies, the Nightmare on Elm Street movies.
Everybody has got a movie that they saw when they
shouldn't have seen it. You were nine and you had
a thirteen year old older brother, you were seven and
you're twelve year old sister put on a movie Nightmare
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on Elm Street. I don't think they make the same
kind of scary movies like they did the Nightmare on
Elm Street. I know they make a ton of them
and they make a lot of money, but the concept
of you're gonna get killed when you go to sleep
for Nightmare on Elm Street, look, Michael Myers, Jason, they're scary,
but the idea of hey, when you go to sleep,
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you're gonna get killed, and it's gonna be in real
life is so diabolical. I'm surprised they haven't brought back
those Nightmare on Elm Street movies. They were terrifying to me,
because again, when are you most scared as a kid
in bed and you're like, well, if I just fall asleep,
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But no, Freddy's gonna kill you if you fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
I saw a story recently. I was reading it. I
was like, I don't know how this kid's ever gonna
sleep for the rest of his life. Did you guys
see the story?
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Kids said there's somebody underneath my bed. I mean, I
getting chills even talking about this. Kids said there's somebody
underneath my bed. Babysitter was like, oh, okay, you're gonna
be fine. I'll look underneath and I'll be damned if
there wasn't a crazy person underneath that kid's bed. Well,
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when do you look up where this happened. I don't
know how that kid's ever gonna sleep for the rest
of his life. Can you imagine, Hey, there's somebody under
my bed. You're the babysitter, You're like, oh, it's gonna
be fine, and you look underneath and somebody's I think
I would die.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
I'm a grown man. I got three kids.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
I think if one of my kids had been like, Daddy,
there's somebody uneath my bed, and I've been like, no,
you're gonna be fine, and then you're like, you're tired,
you're trying to get them to sleep, Like you roll
over and you look underneath and there's somebody underneath the bed.
I think I would have had I don't think I
could have saved my kids. I think I would have
just had a heart attack right there. I'd have been
so scared that either somebody underneath my bed, there's there's
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somebody actually there. That doesn't even seem like it should
be fair, That doesn't even seem like it should be allowed.
You should never be able to get underneath the kid's
bed and actually be there, even if you're a bad,
even if you're a killer, like, at least be a
man and come at me without being underneath the bed first.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
But this is unfair Lynn and Harrisburg.
Speaker 9 (52:40):
What you got for me so acally, the most influential
film is not influential enough. I'm twenty nine. I've never
seen Jaws. I would say Raiders, The Lost Art or
A New Hope. Star Wars is a lot more influential,
both of which I've watched. Love You, I don't otherwise see.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
I don't know how Lynn has managed to be twenty
nine years old and never have seen Jaws. It's gonna
be on NBC tonight. They should have paid me to
promote that. It's free. NBC is a show that you
can watch with an antenna. It is not streaming. It
is not I feel like I have to explain this
now because I was talking to that guy's daughter and
she was like, now, how does the radio work? So
(53:20):
when you say radio, what I mean the thing that's
in your car on the dash, Like I talk out
of that when you push the button and it comes on.
That's how a lot of people hear me. But from
my phone, how would I hear you on my phone?
That was my conversation a couple days ago, and I
hope she's managed to figure out how the radio works.
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But look, I like Star Wars, I love Raiders of
the Lost Arc. The best Raiders of the Lost Arc
movie is The Last Crusade with Sean Connery and Indiana Jones.
Phenomenal film, but I don't think it's anywhere near as influential.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
I went to Israel.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
I wasn't expecting to find the Arc of the Covenant,
right like I wasn't like, well, this isn't really old church.
Let me go in there. Maybe the Ark of the
Covenant's going to be there. But if I had gone
into the ocean in Israel, I would have thought Jaws
might kill me. It's very different, right if I went
to tour the Pyramids, I wouldn't think to myself, well,
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maybe this is the where the Arc is stored. But
I would think if I got to an Egyptian beach,
I would be worried about the crocodiles in the Nile,
but I would also be worried about sharks there. So
I think I think if Lynn from Harrisburg watched, he
would actually agree with me and realize that he was
wrong and millions of people just hurt his wrongness. Art
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from Cleveland. What you got for me?
Speaker 2 (54:46):
This is art from Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
I think the most influential movie maybe China Syndrome.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
It scared the world away from nuclear power. I don't
think that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Didn't Three Mile Island have some sort of nuclear skins
back in the day. We should be using nuclear power
way more than we are. It's actually way safer, and
we haven't because people just bought into catastrophe. This is
my thing with self driving cars. Any I think Elon
(55:17):
Musk gets this. I took the way mow out in
San Francisco. I told you guys, I felt like I
was in the future. The problem with self driving cars
is whenever a self driving car makes an error, everybody
is going to talk about it. It is going to
be everywhere. That video of the self driving car doing
something wrong. Your wife hitting forty eight vehicles trying to
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go to the grocery store not gonna go viral. My wife,
big SUV. If you see her on the street, I
would suggest just pull over like there's a funeral coming by.
I'm not sure she's gonna stay on her side of
the road. She's not very good. Car's too big for
a lot of women. Big cars. Cantanna.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Rob in Palm Beach, What you got.
Speaker 7 (56:02):
I'm from South Florida. My dad was a marine taxidermist
for a company called Fluger, which is out of business,
but he was responsible for making the original Jaws head.
It was pretty cool to see as a kid, very terrifying.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
I mean, this is maybe the greatest talkback ever. Rob's
just like, yeah, you know the movie Jaws, super powerful,
super impactful. My dad made the head. Just picks up
his phone drops in a That's amazing. See if we
can get Rob from Palm Beach on I think that
would be a fun story. Dave in Cincinnati, what you
got for us?
Speaker 3 (56:37):
Hey, Clay, this is David Cincinnati. I used to be
a history teacher and I would show Quint's Soliloquy on
the USS Indianapolis, and, knowing most of the kids had
never seen Jaws, I'd started at the scene where the
shark shows up for the first time, and there is
nothing better than hearing thirty desks just all squeak flying
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backwards at the sign of the shark, and I knew
they were hooked for my lesson of the day.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
That's really great.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
All right, let me hit one more here and then
we'll go to break and then we will play a
couple of cuts from Jaws and take a couple more
of your calls. But this is a Friday edition, fifty
year anniversary. You guys are fantastic. I love these talkback functions.
Super fast. Give me thirty seconds, give me your best
thirty seconds. Got a joke there about marriage MJ from Carlsbad.
What you got for me?
Speaker 2 (57:29):
I'm sixty seven years old in a lifelong surfer. I
never saw Jaws never. For that reason.
Speaker 6 (57:37):
I wanted to remain in the water my whole life.
Speaker 5 (57:39):
And I've been chase out of water by a shark
on quiet, so yeah, I know a little bit about sharks.
Speaker 7 (57:44):
So yeah, never saw it.
Speaker 2 (57:46):
Never will I don't blame him for never seeing I
haven't shown it to my kids.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
They may have seen Jaws, but because we go to
the beach quite regularly and they are afraid of sharks
because it's kind of embedded in the culture. But I
was like, I talked about this with my wife, So
we can never show them Jaws, especially now when they're young,
they will never get in the water. I was afraid
to swim in a swimming pool at night after I
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saw Jaws. A swimming pool at night, couldn't see the bottom.
I was like, as not for me, And some of
y'all are like, yeah, I didn't get in the lake.
You got kids right now. They're gonna see Jaws tonight
on NBC. You're gonna be like, you're done for don't
even try to get him in the water. That is
not happening after they see that movie. I think it's
still going to be super impactful, even with the crazy
(58:32):
fake Jaws head that our boy just called in and
said that his dad made.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
That's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
All right, We're gonna close up the week next when look,
stock market is moving all the time. I just said,
I've got some money coming in, and I said, you
know what, I don't know that I want to buy
s and P five hundred index funds right now as
it's near and all time high. I want to diversify
a little bit more. Literally, had that call with one
of my financial advisors this morning. Because there's constant movement
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