July 3, 2025 • 55 mins
Brian Mudd fills in for Clay and Buck, he opens with sharp commentary on House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries’ extended “magic minute” speech, a procedural move delaying the final vote on the “One Big Beautiful Bill Act." Mudd humorously critiques Jeffries’ filibuster-style tactics, drawing comparisons to Cory Booker’s past Senate performance and highlighting the strategic implications for House Republicans.
The show dives deep into the legislative showdown in Congress, emphasizing the GOP’s push to pass President Trump’s signature bill before July 4th. Mudd explores the political theater surrounding the vote, including reactions from figures like AOC and Chuck Schumer, and the broader implications for Trump’s second-term agenda.
The hour transitions into foreign policy, where Mudd and guest Jon Decker, iHeartRadio’s White House correspondent, analyze Trump’s recent NATO summit success, the crippling of Iran’s nuclear program, and new trade deals with the UK and Vietnam. Decker praises Trump’s strategic use of executive power and legislative influence, noting his rapid pace of executive orders and legislative wins compared to his first term. The segment closes with legal analysis of the Diddy trial verdict, where Decker discusses the implications of the not-guilty ruling on major charges, the high bond amount, and the possibility of a presidential pardon.
Mudd speaks with Congressman Jimmy Patronis from Florida, who expresses frustration over House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries' record-breaking "magic minute" speech that has delayed the vote. Patronis describes the speech as "a colossal waste of time" and "ridiculous," noting that Jeffries appears to be attempting to break Kevin McCarthy's record for the longest continuous floor speech.
The conversation shifts to the fiscal conservative perspective on the bill, with Mudd questioning Patronis about concerns regarding federal debt and deficit implications. Despite some controversial elements like allowing certain illegal immigrants access to Medicaid, Patronis indicates he will vote in favor of the legislation.
Brian Mudd gives listeners a detailed breakdown of how the BBB legislation will financially impact average American families and taxpayers, emphasizing that "the round trip impact of this bill is so much more than the average person begins to understand."
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Vice President Jade Vance is now lifting the veil on
the mindset of Republican lawmakers who are stuck sitting there
in the House chamber listening to Hakim Jeffries talk before
they are allowed to vote. Vance posted this GOP congressman
just texted me. I was undecided on the bill, but
then I watched Hakeem Jeffries' performance, and now I am
a firm Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, well that probably didn't go quite as planned, and
it's still not really going quite as planned. Fox's Peter
Doosey on the State of Affairs as I've got to
hand it to Hakim. Now, I could stand up there
for over seven hours at this point and you know,
throw out my arms and rant and ravee a little bit,
(00:45):
and I do all that. The real challenge, the real
skill in this type of situation comes in with the uh,
the bathroom situation. That is the real challenge. You know,
there's no way that I'm seven hours. I'm throwing my
arms and I'm shouting and doing the ranting and raving
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without needing a pit stop or two, maybe three. And
so that is the real scheme, the real skill of HIKEM.
Jeffries here as he is continuing to use his magic
minute to hold up the final vote on President Trump's
One Big Beautiful Bill Act, or at least it's kind
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of like the legislative version of print, because it's the
act that was formerly known as the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act. You have good old Chuck Schumer to thank
for that maneuver. This is obviously not Clay or Buck.
Brian Mudd, It's a pleasure to be here with you.
I am broadcasting from my home station w J and
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O in West Palm Beach. It is always a pleasure
to be here with you. And we have maybe a
celebration that'll be on our hands before the end of
the show today. As we look what's going on right
now in the House, I do wonder the one thing
that has has gotten me with the King Jeffries and
his house version of a filibuster.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Did he take a cue from Sparty?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I mean, you know, you take a look, SPARTI was
able to go twenty five hours. If you remember earlier
this year in the Senate Corey Booker and what we
learned from him, and speaking of the bathroom situation as well,
I'm not sold on the idea that he didn't like
walk into the chamber. You know, some depends handy. But nevertheless,
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the one thing that we did end up learning from
Corey Booker was that he fasted in advance and then
only did two glasses of water during the thing. So
did hit King Jeffries take a que from Sparty? Is
he going to try to extend his Magic minute? I
don't know into Independence Day to try to hold out.
There was a lot of gamesmanship with this. The first
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thing to know, like in this deal, around four four
o'clock this morning, we were giving.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
The heads up that he's got a speech.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's about forty five minutes, maybe an hour, and coming
out of that yet House Speaker Mike Johnson who said, yeah,
you know what, by eight thirty this morning, we think
we're gonna have a vote. We think we are going
to pass the One Big Beautiful Bill Act over to
President Trump's desk. So we will be on the Act
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formerly known as the BBB Watch all throughout the course
of the show as we are monitoring Hakeem Jeffries in
his Magic minute. By the way, the rule on the
Magic minute in the howse Hi King can't leave. It's
not like he can say time out. I'm gonna go
take that pit stop.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
The moment that he's done, he leaves that podium, he's out,
it's over, and.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Mike Johnson can call for the vote.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So he does have to stand there in talk until
he evidently can't anymore or whatever. His end game here
is planned. So as we are diving in to a
Independence Day weekend with what looks like maybe President Trump's
entire agenda to celebrate Unindependence Day this year, I couldn't
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help it to think of Liberation Day meeting Independence Day,
and so I'll explain, you know, technically Liberation Day, Liberation Day,
remember that April second. That was April second. It was
widely misunderstood at the time. Led her to a real
short term freak out. A lot of people are not
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feeling so liberated, feeling a little tight in the chest,
a little nervous when I'm taking a look at the
stock market.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Created a historically great buying opportunity in the financial markets.
So that's what Liberation Day was. The whole tiar thing
where you had all the economists that are always wrong
and say, oh my gosh, this guy is going and
then people that are smart going, hold on, Donald Trump
is president of the United States. This is going to
be great by and so there was that. But anyway,
(05:06):
so you had a Liberation Day. Now you've got Independence
Day tomorrow and generally understood, right, we get Independence Day
also probably underappreciated, certainly in places like I don't know,
New York City, but anyway, you know, and thinking about
Independence Day this year, liberation also came to mind because
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I thought back, I'm like, I kind of remember where
I was personally a year ago today. And so what
I actually did in advance of today's show is I
went back to a year ago, and I'm like, what
was I talking about? And in my top stories a
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year ago, my message was that Independence Day is one
hundred and twenty five days away, and sanity would be
restoring two hundred and one days, because we were out
the point where I was like literally counting down the
days until election Day and Inauguration Day when dementia Joe
would finally go. And among the headlines, among the headlines
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nationally a year ago today, you had dementia Joe pledging
that he was going to stay in the presidential race.
After the Botch debate, we had a story that he
had just given billions more to Ukraine, because I mean,
you know, why not, right, I'm sure, Zelenski asked nicely. Also,
the New York judge in the stormy freaking Daniel's hush
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money case announced that he had delayed the Trump sentencing.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's where we were a year ago today. Those were
the big stories.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh and an average of nearly ten thousand illegal immigrants
still pouring into the country per day. That's fun. So
that right now what we're talking about. One of our
biggest concerns is simply the timing of this final vote
in what looks like a very likely outcome for President
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Trump being able to sign his agenda into law on
Independence Day. And also, you know, kind of like calculating
how much is my tax saving's going to be? What
what is my tax cut gonna look, which, by the way,
coming up in the second hour, I'm going to get
into that. If you want to know what does the
BBB mean to you, I'm gonna give it to you
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very specifically, because there's so much more money on the
line here that I think even some of the more
credible sources that have reported this have brought to you
so we're gonna break it all down. You're going to
know exactly what this means to you and your family
when you take a look at how much better of
a place we're in. We can get more specific here
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with some of these things.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
So you.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
We had an incredible jobs report this morning that came
in well better than expected. Unemployment rate dropped yet again.
The inflation rate. The inflation rate at two point four
percent right now. You know, it's the lowest that it's
been since Trump was one month removed from previously having
been president of the United States. Last time we had
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inflation as low as it is right now, one month
after he was last president. And by the time you
factor in wage growth. All right, so how much more
is the average household bringing in now? The answer is
four point three percent. Okay, so most recently, the average
American family, we finally get in the head again, we're
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doing about nearly two percent better. You know. So you
get done paying your bills at the end of the month,
what's left over You got about two percent more than.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
You had before. That is the best quality of life
improvement that we've seen since Trump's previous presidency, since his
first administration. Look a year ago.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Today SMP five hundred thirteen percent higher four one k
balances saving rates they've hit record highs. And as you
hit the road for independent state gas prices forty cents
per gallon and lower than a year ago. Today, you
have one hundred and ninety billion dollars in government waste
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that's been dozed. By the way, I mean, like doze
really has stopped dozing since Elon Gonzo, but still ended
up saving eleven hundred and eighty dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Per federal taxpayer, not peanuts.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
On immigration, the Lincoln Riley Act now law attempted border
crossings down ninety three percent. Access into the United States
down by ninety nine percent. The CBP one home map
that was used by the Buiden administration to fly nearly
a million illegal immigrants into this country. Yeah, not so
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much anymore, right, thats ay, Matt being used to say,
see to fly illegal immigrants out of this country. On
that note, isis daily detentions of fifty three percent over
a year ago. Oh and by the way, surprise, surprise,
because as detentions rise, guess what's falling.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I look at that less crime, a lot less crime.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
In fact, did you know homicides down by twenty one
percent so far this year.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Robberies are two.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Property crime sixteen percent lower, violent crime in general down
by eleven percent two and the biggest impact a lot
of times the biggest cities with the biggest illegal immigrant
population problems, like Denver and Aurora. So it's of absolutely
no surprise, in part because one of the things I've
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been tracking about a year ago in like what what
are we doing? Like the definition of insanity territory, Who
in their right mind would do this to a country?
By this time last year, twenty four percent of all
drug trafficking done in the United States have been done
by illegal immigrants. Twenty four percent. You wanted to get
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rid of just almost a quarter of all drug trafficking,
get rid of the illegal immigrants, twenty five percent of
all property crimes, illegal immigrants. You want to get rid
of a quarter of all property crime in this country,
just get the people. They are not legally here in
the first place. The heck out, twenty eight percent of
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all fraud. Yeah, non citizens, non citizens, And you know
the lie. I remember hearing this even somewhat recently on
by one of the idiots on the view. Oh well,
you know, they are less likely to commit crime than you.
That is such a lie.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean it might have.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Actually been true, like thirty years ago when you had
a Mexican who came over to pick some oranges.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
No, not in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The non citizen crime rate by a year ago at
this point, how much more likely do you think a
non citizen had become to commit a crime than you, like, well,
I don't know, I mean, yeah, kind of a shaky person.
You could be a shaky person and the uh, your
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average non citizen was still going to blow you away.
They had become nine times more likely to commit a
crime than the average legal citizen. Again, not necessarily the
biggest surprise when you know the first action by said
individual is to you know, kind of say, uh, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
To ignore federal law.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So yeah, none necessarily a surprise that once their first
action is to break the law, that then suddenly they
don't go But now straighten me, even I just want
to abide by all the laws this country.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I really care about it.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So yeah, that's how bad it had become Your average
non citizen in this country nine hundred and fourteen percent
more likely to commit crimes than the average legal citizen.
And in fact, if you take a look, during the
whole four year window of the Buying administration, total crimes
committed by non citizens rose by six hundred and twenty
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six percent. I mean, they're just mind blowing numbers. But
then again, you know, we know the impact and the
situation with all the open borders, and that is just
on those two pieces. I'll pick up there next Brian
mudd In for claim bug drive a new hyunday with
just ninety eight dollars down like a new twenty twenty
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five hundred. People will suffer, people will die, and it
will be at the hands of Republicans.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Both.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
In fact, that's actually that wasn't the planning that went
in to the Act formally known as the BBB. You
had some Republicans that got around and said, you know what,
we haven't done in a while, we haven't created any
legislation that's sort of killing people. And you know what,
you're right, So you know, I think we should should
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get back to our roots. We are Republicans, after all,
so we should craft red legislation that kills people. And
then you know, for example, in the event that the
warm and fluffy migrants that are sent to alligator Alcatraz
and the event that they don't, you know, manage to escape,
we have, you know, people to feed to the to
the alligators. Sits just the rhetorica is just so over
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the top in so many different respects. And I tell
you what, just say, noticed slugs the whole Medicaid thing
and this is is such a joke. And I'm going
to break down specifically what the work requirements are with
the Medicaid and the snap provisions in the Act formerly
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known as the BBB, and just a few we'll get
to that. I mean it basically, if you get off
your couts for twenty hours in a week, you're good.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's pretty much the way it works. So that's what
and apparently that's killing somebody to actually do that. So
Brian mutt In for Clay and Buck and as we
are on BBB, watch as Hakeem Jeffries going strong, going
strong in the House joining us is great television. And
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iHeartRadio's White House correspondent John Decker, John, this's a bit
unexpected from the House Minority leader.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
Well, it is unexpected to a certain extent, but Hakem Jeffries,
he is one of those leaders in the Democratic Party
and he's acting like a leader for his party right
now in terms of delaying what to me, Brian is
the inevitable, and it is inevitable that we saw this
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in the procedural vote that took place early this morning.
We'll see it on the actual vote that takes place.
When that occurs on the House floor, every Republican that
values their career in the House of Representatives and their
future career in the House of Representatives will vote for
the legislation and this bill will get to the President's
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desk for his signature in time before that self imposed
deadline July the fourth.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That will be a part I believe of.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
The President's schedule tomorrow, the President assigning this legislation his signature,
domestic achievement of his second term in the White House,
getting that all done sooner than when he got that
big tax cut bill sign in his first term in
the White House.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And to give you a little background about John if
you're maybe not familiar, John has covered every president starting
with Bill Clinton. He also is the only member of
the White House Press Corps that is an attorney, having
studied once upon a time under one professor Jonathan Turley
Decker now himself a professor at Georgetown UCLA and John
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as we take a look at, you know, the historical
ramifications here. Obviously, you know, Trump wanted one bill. There
are a lot of conservatives that said, hey, we need
to do this in two. The Senate wanted it into
In the end, you take a look at the the
President's influence, the will and how this has come together
a to get the Senate on board with one bill
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and then be the House. I mean, you had House
Freedom Caucus members like chip Roy just two days ago
saying that what the Senate had done was a literally
a deal killer of an already bad deal. And here
we are on the precipice of whenever Hikema has done
doing what he's doing, passing this thing.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Well, that's right, you know. As for chip Roy, you know,
I think time and time again he's proven that he's
all bark and no bite. You know, he threatens not
to vote for the legislation and ultimately caves in, as
do other House Republicans that want to make a career
of being a member of the House of Representatives. So
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does it surprise me that, you know, Chick Roy, a
member of the Freedom Caucus, and other members of the
Freedom Caucus are caving in. No, it doesn't, you know,
because President Trump has the ultimate power, and that is
something that he has threatened to wield, and that is
essentially saying, you vote against this legislation, your career as
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a member of Congress is over.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
That's a very real threat.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
He's not afraid, interestingly enough, Brian, of making that threat outwardly.
You know, normally those are the kind of threats that
you make behind closed doors. He puts it on truth
social He makes everybody aware of what he's saying to
these members that may be on the fence in terms
of supporting the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
John, One of the other things I was thinking about,
you take a look out where we are today in
Trump's presidency. So you know, the first time around, he
signed two hundred and twenty executive orders in four years.
He signed believe it's one hundred and sixty five already,
three more than President Biden and Team Autopen did already
in just over five and a half months. And you
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take a look at you know, his tax cut and
jobs Act his Trump tax cuts. The first summer, it
took until December the first go round to be able
to get his tax cuts through. Here we are heading
into the Independence Day weekend, and it looks like he's
not only going to get those tax cuts made permit,
he's going to get the additional tax cuts he promised,
a no tax on tips overtime, also some big breaks
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for seniors that for most seniors going to work, basically
like not having tax on Social Security income. You start
putting all this together, and it just shows how well
oiled and organized his policy approach is and how effective
he is.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Agree with you.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
You know, this is a president who in his first
term he clearly was someone who is learning the ropes
from insiders. He had never been a politician before at
any level before becoming president, and so he did rely
on others in terms of showing him how to move
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legislation forward. This time around, he doesn't need that help.
And this time around he understands all the levers of
the power of the presidency. He realizes how powerful this
office is, made even more so powerful by that recent
Supreme Court decision handed down last week.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And so, look, I think that this is a.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
President that understands all the ways that he can move
his agenda forward, and we're seeing it applied in real time.
I think it's pretty remarkable. You know, there will be
this will be a part of history, you know, in
terms of the way that the president has managed to
move his agenda forward in such a record amount of time.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
John, you're with the president last week at the NATO summit,
and pretty remarkable situation. He tried to get it done
his first term. It was starting to come together. It is,
you know, ultimately coming together now where the NATO members
this out of Spain contributing five percent of their GDP
to you know, to to defense spending and pretty much
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getting not just what we've seen here at home, which
is his own party in order to get his agenda done,
but also around the world. How he's managing to get
that agenda done, especially with trade now too.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Well, that's exactly right, Brian. You know, that's the thing
about President Trump. He understands the leavers of power in
terms of moving his domestic agenda forward, and he understands
the leavers of power in terms of moving his foreign
policy agenda forward. And this is part of his foreign
policy agenda when he left that NATO summit last week
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in the Netherlands, and as you point out, I covered
that summit. I was in the Hague for the summit.
I was at the press conference. He called on me
at the press conference. When he left, he was exuberant
because everyone of his goals was achieved during the course
of his summit. And I think he made it clear
to every one of the thirty one other members of
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the NATO Defense Alliance there is one leader, and that
leader at the United States of America, and the President
is the leader of the United States of America, and
he's going to exert his power, his influence to get
his way with those other NATO Defense Alliance members. We
saw that play itself out last week. So, you know,
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for all of those who were saying it's been a
remarkable two weeks for the president, I couldn't agree more.
It has been a remarkable two weeks for the president,
including of course that those attacks on those three nuclear
sites in Iran. So to me, you know, this is
some one who has a winning streak going and obviously
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would like to keep that winning streak going beyond ultimately
signing this big, beautiful bill.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
With him the next few days.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, he's definitely not tired of winning. Yet a lot
of people are not tired of winning within the administration.
And also China announcing that yeah, you know, the terms
of the trade deal are on the English trade deal.
The UK trade deal actually took effect this week, just
announced the Vietnam trade deal. Where they were charging us
to do business there, now they're not. We weren't charging
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them anything, now we are. I mean, it just goes
on and on, and it gives you a roadmap for
where a lot of those trade deals are probably going
to land to. And then you talk about like the
the mops and that whole situation, you know, the Defense
Department yesterday talking again about Yeah, I mean, at a minimum,
the nuclear program set back a couple of years, and
that to me was always one of the things anyway,
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and you know, you spend it's an occupational hazard. You
spend a lot of time around colleagues in the press
corps that were endlessly you know, trying to you know,
say that you know, somehow or another, the linked information
or you know, whoever wanted to say that the nuclear
program wasn't really damaged more than it was.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I mean, there just is no sense in this, right.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I mean, ultimately, if Trump was propagandizing, you just walk
with it and you think, okay, well he is, you know,
just saying that they got and they really didn't. So
what you know, you have Iran that comes back in
six months and says, surprise, we've got nukes. I mean,
there just is no way to effectively propagandize that situation.
It either happened, is either destroyed, or it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
I agree, you know, I think that you know, even
those who want to get that readout from the administration,
Democrats on the Foreign Relations Committee in either the House
of the Senate, have to acknowledge that the Iranian nuclear program,
it's nuclear ambitions have been set back substantially because of
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the action taken by the United States. And you know,
you mentioned, you know, all of the things related to
while why the president can't just propagandize this issue. He
can't propagandize this issue. I mean we're talking about also
Israel's safety and security. Israel's not going to propagandize this
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because they're very security. Their existential existence depends upon Iran's
nuclear program being curtailed. Back to you, know zero essentially,
and you know, when we hear from Israeli intelligence they're
satisfied with the actions taken by the United States.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think that says a lot.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
You know, if they weren't, maybe they would be saying
you need another go around, you know, in terms of
taking it out altogether. They're not saying that, Brian, that
they're saying it has been in the President's word, he
uses obliterated. It has been obliterated, it has been decimated.
I think that those two words certainly apply to Aron's
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nuclear program right now.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Brian mudw with John Decker. One more for you.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
John so mentioned that John is the only member of
the Press Corps that's also an attorney. So putting your
legal hat on for the whole Didty situation. So we
get the verdict and not guilty of the most serious charges,
Judge is holding him in jail until sentencing.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
What do you make of this deal?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I don't know, you know, I mean, as you know,
it's a substantial bond that he needs to post. I
believe it's fifty million dollars, and that's the reason why
he has remained behind bars for all of this period
of time. I don't know, you know, maybe that it
gives you a window about what kind of sentence he
intends to hand down against Didty, But you know, as
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the interest on the face of it, as you know,
he really skirted the possibility of very serious prison time.
Remember this is a federal case because of the fact
that he was acquitted on the most serious charges. For
the two counts that he was found guilty of, they
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have maximum penalties of ten years in prison. He will
not get ten years in prison. You know, he's a
non violent offender, someone who's not a repeat offender. I
can't tell you what the judge is ultimately going to
sentence did he two in terms of a jail sentence,
a prison sentence, but it won't be anywhere near that
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tenure maximum sentence. And certainly his lawyers are going to
ask for no jail sentence, a time served for all
of the amount of time that he's served in prison,
and will see ultimately whether that federal judge agrees with that.
And let's not forget the president has the power of
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the pardon. And it would not surprise me. Nothing surprises
me these days, Brian. It would not surprise me if
did he get the pardon from the.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Residents of the United States.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
So we'll have to wait wait and honey, you know,
I mean, he's got a lot of big things on
his plate right now. But that would not surprise me
in the least.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Really. I mean that one was was not on my
bingo card. So that is that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So Decker pointing, pointing to the outfield right now, and
we'll see what happens there. That would be uh, that
would be an interesting development. John really appreciate it. Thank
you so much for tom the inside.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Thanks Brian, talk to you soon. Byebye.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
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Speaker 7 (28:52):
This bill, over the next year, we are going to
see growth like we have not seen and importantly, it
is going to be non inflationary growth, which is something
that Democrats couldn't do.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Treasury Secretary of Scott Basset, he was on with Maria
Brock Tromo Bock's business this morning.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And we are going to unleash growth.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We are already seeing the lowest inflation we've had since
basically Trump was last president. And yeah, we are going
to see in time for independence, say a big beautiful
bill on President Trump's desk, or at least the act
that was previously known as the BBB, as soon as
Hikeem Jeffries gets done doing his thing, his sparty impersonation
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right now. He was apparently motivated by Corey Booker, and
he is making his last stand. And somebody who's joining us,
Brian mud In for claim buck. Somebody who's joining us
has been entertained by today's festivities. I'm sure Congressman Jimmy
Patron is joining us now. Jimmy, how's it been taken
in the festivities with HIKEM today?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I would rather have root canals without any nova Kane.
This has been the biggest colossal waste of time. We
are delaying savings and benefits to the American taxpayer right
now with ridiculous you know, shows like this right now.
Hakem has been up there now since three point thirty
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in the morning. We've all been awake watching this, and
it's all because he wants to break Kevin McCarthy's record
for speaking the longest on the floor NonStop.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
This is this is the type of.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Like the Congress.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Hey, Jeffy, you were saying that it looks like it's
a it's about to come to close right a round
one thirty.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, that's that's what That's what we're anticipating. But who
he's gonna go. And I look, I didn't mean to
go off on you just like that, but Brian, you're
you're my pal, and I think I can be candid
with you and and the public doesn't deserve this type
of ridiculousness.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Now you're you're I think right on point. I think
he kind of captured the field of the thing. You know,
the only thing I'm impressed by is just the lack
of the need for a bathroom break. You know, I
could stand up there and throw my arms a ran
rave two. But you know, it's it's impressive. I don't
know if he did the fasting thing like Sparti did
in the Senate, but you know, you got to get
the guy credit at least for not needing to make
a pit supper too.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Well, I'll tell you he does not look good. From
the time he has started at the time he is now.
You could see he keeps on pat and himself. He
does not look good. He looks pale. So anyway, I'm
sure he's tired, you know, good for him. I have
no idea what he's been talking about.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
All right, Jimmy, So a couple of things. First about
Jimmy Patron is he He is a congressman from Florida.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
He took over the.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Matt Gates seat in the special election recently. Previously that
was Florida's CFO. And Jimmy the reason I wanted to
talk to you today. You got a lot of us
that are fiscal conservatives. You got a lot of us
that take a look at debt, the federal deficit, the
federal debt, and we're like, you know what, the BBB
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doesn't look like such a beautiful thing when you see
some of these projections. And even if the CBO stuff
doesn't factor in enough growth, what have you. I mean,
he's still kind of hard to get from here to
there and feel good about it. From a fiscal conservative perspective,
I mean, tax stuff is awesome, you know, takeing care
of border and all the illegal immigration nonsense. I mean,
so much good in here, but I mean when we
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do still have a bill that has you know, illegal immigrants,
criminal illegal immigrants being able to get access to medicaid,
I mean, you do kind of scratch your head.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
With some of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So what I want you to be able to do is,
from the perspective, put yourself back in your old shoes.
I know you're getting ready to vote in favor of
the act here momentially, but I want you to put
yourself back in your CFO shoes of the third largest
day in the country that has a balanced budget. As
someone who I know is deeply convicted as a fiscal conservative,
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and I want you to tell us why you're voting
for this and also why those of us who are
physical conservatives that are concerned maybe shouldn't be so the.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
One And I think it's probably the ones that are
the easiest for people to understand, whether we talk about
the no tax on tips or the no tax in overtime. Now,
that may not necessarily affect some of your listeners because
maybe they're in a salary position, but as somebody who's
coming out of the service industry, and I think about
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how in the state of affoord of how big of
a service driven market that we are. Now you're basically
giving probably the biggest tax break in the history of
America to that middle class that has never seen that
type of ability to keep their own money in their
pocket and spend it. Also, it's that particular class of
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individual that has been hurt the mo by the increase
in inflation. So I truly think the president, he was
on the campaign trail, he heard the struggles that people
were having in the service industry, and oh gosh, why
not let's make no tax on tips. So it became
a little bit of a novelty. I mean, look, it's
almost like a little bit of a one off over
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some of the other messing that the President's got. He
keeps his message pretty simple so the average person can understand.
So those two issues, look, you can't bring them out
of the ground without having the ability to pay for it,
because it's got to get started before it takes through.
The President's so passionate about getting this bill signed as
soon as possible because he learned last time with the
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Trump tax cuts, they signed them too late. And most people,
if they reflect on how prosperous our country was in
twenty nineteen. The President wants to get back to those days. Unfortunately,
now we're fighting with this new inflation, it's new cost
of busines that we inherited from the Biden administration over
the last four years. So you know, I'm giving my
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trust to the President on what he sees as an
opportunity to just really supercharge money back into the wallet
of that middle class.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So am I to take you then that you know,
the whole det and deficit thing, you're on the tact
that you believe we're going to grow our way out
of this.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Part of it will be growth.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Now here's the other thing. So you know, there's been
a lot of hard feelings towards the CBO and how
this has been scored, and how far off and how
wrong they were with the last Trump tax cuts in
the conservative nature of why they feel that the debt
ceiling is needed to be.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Increased in order to accommodate this.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
So we really feel like there's going to be some
consistency in their bad predictions that are going to ultimately
to the good of the bottom line of the American taxpayer.
Like I'm not I'm not thrilled with it. But you know,
as as I'm a believer that what Mike Johnson is
telling us what our plans are between now, it's it's
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a four year plan to try to do what we
want to do under the Trump administration, to get to
the balanced budget that we want to get to. You know,
this these priorities of the president right now, and we
put in the motion first in order to get our
economy back where it should be.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
All right, So Jimmy kind of walk us through this
past day.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
You know, we had members of the House Freedom Caucus
they're like, no way, you know, coming out of the Senate,
absolutely no way. You take a look at you know,
there having been one vote that that passed this thing
out of the House in the first place, and then
you know what what was being said coming back the
other way. So what is your understanding? Know what went
down the White House yesterday? What was said with the president?
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What has theoretically made this difference that we are on
the precipice passing this.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Well, I think part of it was is is Thomas
Massey pleading to the President saying, look, I'll vote for
this thing if you stop beating up on me. I mean,
so you definitely you've got a number. It's a rule
of numbers, you know, Brian. You know, if you've got
one hundred people in the room, that you're going to
be ten percent of them are going to be all
about themselves. And so as you get these members of
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Congress who you know, have a base that they cater to,
and this is the way they communicate to them. This
is how they community consume their news.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Part of it is is taking these positions that are contrary,
which some of which have some merit to them. But
you know, you can't go and kill this bill with
what the Trump tax cuts alone mean to small businesses
and being able to allow the taxpayer to keep their money.
We don't want to increase taxes on people and this buildings,
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you're increasing tax on people. You know, these guys had
to come to their senses, but it was crazy. I mean,
we can get them all on board till three o'clock
in the morning, you know, I mean really, I mean,
you knew you were going to get here. But you know,
we're gonna, you know, try to do as much social
media and TV as we possibly can to drum up
as much attention for ourselves to ultimately get to the
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place where we knew we were going to get all along.
So it's you know, it's it's just part of how
things roll up here sometimes.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So Massy Massy literally went pleading to the president.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Huh, that's what I was told. So I heard that.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It was a conversation that took place. And look, you know,
I'll come around if you just stop beating up on me.
And look, this was the president of the President can
repose as good as anybody. And I'm sorry the American
public wants his campaign promises completed. You know, there's some
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things of the bill that probably you know, like you
said earlier, with regarding the increase of the debts, they're
going to have those detractors of that. I'm not thrilled
about it, but this is a pathway to get what
the president promised on the campaign trail. And and I
get excited about Man, the cop, the firefighter. Now they're
not going to have to pay taxes on their overtime.
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You know, these are the same guys that you know
are going to come show up for our house when
you're down nine one one, you've got an emergency. These
are the same guys, two of which just got gunned
down out on the West coast. You know, respondence, I mean,
these people put their lives on the line. You know,
I have no problem at all letting them be exempt
from you know, income tax or taxes on their overtime.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
All right, Jrevy, good stuff. So any doubt about how
this vote goes down just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
No, Look, I think we're gonna have some anxiety. At
least we're going to be voting during daylight hours. But look,
last night, we had members that went back to their districts,
So that's another that dragged things. We had members that
actually went out and they were hiding because they didn't
want to face the music on dealing with arguing their
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position on this life legislation. So I mean, yeah, look,
if you don't like making tough decisions, man, you probably
shouldn't have put your name on the ballot. So you know,
time is the most precious thing we got and we
have wasting an enormous amount of it with foolishness over
the last seventy two hours.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You know, memory serves you.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
You are Clay's congressman, at least, you know, part time congressman, right,
his home and the Panhand to where he is right now.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Actually, I'm sorry which one.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Clay, Yeah, no, you're got you're I think, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
He's there right now.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You know what, I hope he's spending an enormous amount
of money in Northwest Florida enjoying the world's most beautiful beaches.
And yeah, he did a hell on TV the other
day and he was gushing about, you know, enjoying the
Panhandle while we were up here facing the monsoons. So yeah,
he'll actually he goes. He used to go into the
(40:54):
old iHeart station that I was in for a while
when he did a show remotely up there.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Good stuff, Yeah, no doubt, and a much better representation
that Clay has than May I have. Unfortunately, the same
house representation that the president does, which is lowis Frankel.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Nobody wins in that deal, you know.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
But you're.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
It is so cool to note that I'm talking to
you and you're doing still in on Clay and Bucks show.
I mean that just shows you where you have taken
your career and how effective you are communicating what's important
to the listeners. So I mean, you think about important
that family of listeners is and for them to entrust
you with their listeners. God bless you, dude. That's a
(41:38):
heck of a damn accomplishment. I'm proud to call your friend.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Well, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I've lived a career on the periphery people far more
impressive than myself.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So anyway, Jimmy, God bless you. Look forward to the vote.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Talk to you soon, See you, buddy, Take care, coybye.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Brian mutt In for claim buck.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
This runs directly contrary to what President's Trump indicat in January,
which was that he was going to love and cherish medicaid.
Nothing about this bill loves and cherishes medicaid.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
It guts medicaid.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
For slugs. It guts it for slugs. That's the only
Hakeem Jeffries. He is making the most out of his
magic minute. He has officially set the record for the
longest use of what's known as a magic minute by
the it's a house procedure. So he's now spoken longer
(42:35):
than McCarthy. Record is a It's an interesting dynamic right now,
Brian mudd In for a claim.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
But because.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
You had Maxi Waters recently approached the podium and so
right next to Hakeem Jeffries, who is you know, still
going at it, although he has been reaching for his
mouth a lot recently, he's been going for water more
frequently recently. You have Maxine Waters that looks to be
(43:06):
I don't know, about three feet away from him, maybe
maybe two. And I'm wondering at this point all the
Democrats are standing now as well. So I'm wondering if
it didn't get to the point where it's like even
the Democrats are okay, Hikeem, so like you set your record,
We're going to send Maxine to stare at you. We're
just just gonna stand next to you and stare at
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you until you're done here. I think it might be
a subtle maneuver by the House Minority group to try
to get Hikem to wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
But he's still going.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
He's still at some point we do anticipate here at
the NASU distance, we are actually going to get to
the vote that is going to give your wallet a
big break. Okay, so you've heard a lot of lies
about what the BBB actually means. You heard, Hikem, it's
all about the billionaires. They really don't have any any
(44:02):
new tricks. It's like, man, that playbook is old and dusty.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
You know the burn he huffed, he puffed, You had Pocahontas.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
She whined that all went down the Senate aoc. She
still sounds like she's thirteen. Hakeem and the throes of
his last stand. Here you had in the Senate. You
know Tom Tillis and Susan Collins that did side with
the slugs, you know, those who don't believe in medicator
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snap work requirements. Just who's a cute little illegal immigrant?
Oh you are here, have some food stamps in Medicaid.
But anyway, through kill version of House Freedom Caucus members
at the White House yesterday, it does look like we
are on the precipice of passing President Trump's One Big
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Beautiful Bill Act, or the Act as it happens to be,
because of final act of pettiness. You probably heard about
this in a last minute maneuver when it was being
passed out of the Senate. Yet a maneuver that was
so petty. It was only something that Chuck Schumer would do,
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you know, just prior to the final Senate vote. Good
old Chuck, you Schumer. As a rush often would say
he forced a motion to rename the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act, the Act.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Invoking the section of the Bird Rule.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's one of the arcane Senate rules that named after
the former Democrat KKK organizer turned longtime senator that they
now think is great. So anyway, Chuck, you then literally
went on to say that because of the formerly aesthetically
pleasing Act, people are going to get sick and die.
(45:55):
People are going to get sick and die, and you're
going to have hunger kids. And you know that's it's
the whole You know, Republicans want want your kids to starve.
So I actually think there's a far better chance to
like people get sick and maybe like seriously ill, just
by listening to Chuck and Hikeem. By the way, well
(46:19):
it does look like speaking of Hikeem in real time,
I think he's done.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh he's not.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Everybody, Ah, it's a heroes welcome. You ever noticed just
how ugly those people are to It's just I don't
mean to be offensive. It's like, you take a look.
You have all this great senior leadership of Democrats that
are now hugging Hakeem. Oh you are You're great That
is a that is a motley bunch of people right there.
I always said, there's nothing about hate that age as well,
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you know, just it's not attracted, which, by the way,
AOC not gonna go so well, although I'm not sure
she actually really just words coming out of her mouth.
But nevertheless, what does this actually mean to you? Well,
the whole thing is huge money to you. If you
remember during the debate and the lead up to President
Trump's twenty seventeen tax Cut in Jobs Act, remember how
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you were routinely lied to by the fake news. Remember
how you were told that only tax cuts for the rich,
higher taxes for you.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
You know, one of the things I thought.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Was was so instructive, just how pervasive the mind washing
of of most Americans was. You had even after the
tax cuts had kicked in, pulling from NBC News in
the Wall Street Journal showing that only seventeen percent of
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Americans thought they were getting tax break again. They had
already started to kick in, but they had been a
lied to you for so long, and you still had
your godless souls in slanders news media that still had
enough influence, apparently with people that only seventeen percent actually
thought they were getting one. In reality, over eighty percent
of Americans saw tax break from the Tax Cutting Jobs Act.
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What was the average savings twenty one hundred dollars per
filer within the first year. By the way, it's the
number only growing a lot bigger over the past seven
and a half years. And surprise, surprise, you have the
line that is the exact same thing, i mean, same
playbook from them, right, So this is gonna be horrible
(48:21):
for you.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
It is.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
It's the the.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Screw You Act, and you know, just for the billionaires.
But let's start with the bottom line. The one big,
potentially aesthetically pleasing bill, it is huge for you and
your household. So first of all, it makes permanent the
original Trump tax cuts with individual tax reductions for the
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average twenty two percent average filer twenty two percent. Now
how much money you start breaking this stuff out for
households By the time you take a look at child
tax credits, the nominal rate reductions, the average number of
people that file in the home, all these things, you
know what actually is because a lot of the numbers
that have been thrown out there don't factor in all
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of the tax savings. If you break out what the
tax savings per household that file taxes is you're at
thirty nine hundred bucks. Thirty nine hundred dollars. The wait,
there's more. Eighty four percent of households are going to
see additional tax cuts beyond the current policy. I mean,
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ninety one percent will get some kind of benefit, but
eighty four percent stand to benefit by an additional twenty
nine hundred bucks annually.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
When this passes.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Come next year, another twenty nine hundred bucks in tax
savings for you and your family. So here's what's actually
on the line, and people will throw numbers out there
talk about all the The average household in this country,
the round trip on this deal is sixty eight hundred dollars.
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If you had the tax increase from having the Trump
tax cuts expire and then also not the benefit of
the additional tax cuts here, you round trip would be
out sixty eight hundred bucks next year your family, average
household in this country. That comes from beef up, beats up,
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child tax credit, no federal taxes on tips, overtime, higher
standard deductions, real money, real savings coming right down the line.
And one of the really big ones, seniors, you know,
one of the things that Trump. Of course, it was
the no tax on tips, no tax on over time
and along the way you said, and no no tax.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
On Social Security either. It was kind of like one
of those, and we'll throw that into it.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
So it's not explicitly that way, but the way that
it did end up getting put in here pretty much
works that way. So seniors over sixty five get a
huge boost, get a huge boost.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Six thousand dollars added to the standard deduction. So what
does that mean. Well, for the average senior.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Over sixty five comes out to just over one thousand
bucks per year in savings. So married filed filing jointly
both over sixty five, that's another about two thousand bucks
in your pocket. And for almost all seniors it wipes
out effectively the tax liability from Social Security. So you
pretty much delivered on it that way too. Things that
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people don't know about. You have an American made car,
you get a naught alone, yeah deduction that'll average four
hundred and seventy five dollars a year, and savings on
that next year the standard deduction. You know, almost everybody
uses the standard deduction now is one of the ways
that the first Trump tax lawended up closing so many
of the loopholes, so many of the deduction loopholes. Ninety
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one percent of taxpayers use the standard deduction.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Well that's going up.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
That goes up next year one thousand dollars for individuals
and for married couples, So pretty much everybody sees some
kind of benefit. But again for over eighty percent of people,
over eighty percent of households, we're talking about the benefit
being into the thousands, over two thousand dollars per year.
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So it's absolutely huge.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Money for you. And so what is actually on the
line with this vote.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
It's the choice between a thirty nine hundred dollars tax
increase if you let the Trump tax policy expire, or
an additional twenty nine hundred dollars tax cut. Now, let
me ask you how many people you can do man
on the street stuff. You can go to your average Democrat,
all right, you could probably go to AOC. Don't tell
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her it's actually about this law.
Speaker 5 (53:04):
This bill.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
By the way, he came him, he is done. You
have Mike Johnson, a House speaker that is now up.
Looks like he's calling for the vote. So we are
going to get underway with the vote, and we probably
are before the end of the show going to have
the conclusion to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act the
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vote on that. So stand by for news and we'll
break it. We'll bring you all the breaking news on this.
So you know, like even AOC, you get AOC outside
of the house, Hey, you want like a thirty nine
dollars tax increase or would you like an additional twenty
nine hundred dollars tax cut? Even I think AOC, if
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you just don't tell her how it happens, is going
to go yeah, yeah, I would like that. Anybody who's
honest is going to tell you that. So, as always,
there are two sides of stories, one to facts. The
one Big potentially aesthetically pleasing Act. It saves you money,
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It ends up delivering relief almost entirely across the board.
And the great irony is, you know, they're actually five
percent of people that ended up paying more under the
Trump tax law, the twenty seventeen law.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
You know who those people are.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
The billionaires, wealthy people that were able to make use
of standard or make use of deductions that they can't
make use of anymore when they were closing loopholes. So Yeah,
the only people who actually ended up paying more were
the wealthiest people's the exact opposite of what was being
said as we are on watch here with House Speaker
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Vice President Jade Vance is now lifting the veil on
the mindset of Republican lawmakers who are stuck sitting there
in the House chamber listening to Hakim Jeffries talk before
they are allowed to vote. Vance posted this GOP congressman
just texted me. I was undecided on the bill, but
then I watched Hakeem Jeffries' performance, and now I am
a firm Yes.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, well that probably didn't go quite as planned, and
it's still not really going quite as planned. Fox's Peter
Doosey on the State of Affairs as I've got to
hand it to Hakim. Now, I could stand up there
for over seven hours at this point and you know,
throw out my arms and rant and ravee a little bit,
(00:45):
and I do all that. The real challenge, the real
skill in this type of situation comes in with the uh,
the bathroom situation. That is the real challenge. You know,
there's no way that I'm seven hours. I'm throwing my
arms and I'm shouting and doing the ranting and raving
(01:05):
without needing a pit stop or two, maybe three. And
so that is the real scheme, the real skill of HIKEM.
Jeffries here as he is continuing to use his magic
minute to hold up the final vote on President Trump's
One Big Beautiful Bill Act, or at least it's kind
(01:25):
of like the legislative version of print, because it's the
act that was formerly known as the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act. You have good old Chuck Schumer to thank
for that maneuver. This is obviously not Clay or Buck.
Brian Mudd, It's a pleasure to be here with you.
I am broadcasting from my home station w J and
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O in West Palm Beach. It is always a pleasure
to be here with you. And we have maybe a
celebration that'll be on our hands before the end of
the show today. As we look what's going on right
now in the House, I do wonder the one thing
that has has gotten me with the King Jeffries and
his house version of a filibuster.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Did he take a cue from Sparty?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I mean, you know, you take a look, SPARTI was
able to go twenty five hours. If you remember earlier
this year in the Senate Corey Booker and what we
learned from him, and speaking of the bathroom situation as well,
I'm not sold on the idea that he didn't like
walk into the chamber. You know, some depends handy. But nevertheless,
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the one thing that we did end up learning from
Corey Booker was that he fasted in advance and then
only did two glasses of water during the thing. So
did hit King Jeffries take a que from Sparty? Is
he going to try to extend his Magic minute? I
don't know into Independence Day to try to hold out.
There was a lot of gamesmanship with this. The first
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thing to know, like in this deal, around four four
o'clock this morning, we were giving.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
The heads up that he's got a speech.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's about forty five minutes, maybe an hour, and coming
out of that yet House Speaker Mike Johnson who said, yeah,
you know what, by eight thirty this morning, we think
we're gonna have a vote. We think we are going
to pass the One Big Beautiful Bill Act over to
President Trump's desk. So we will be on the Act
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formerly known as the BBB Watch all throughout the course
of the show as we are monitoring Hakeem Jeffries in
his Magic minute. By the way, the rule on the
Magic minute in the howse Hi King can't leave. It's
not like he can say time out. I'm gonna go
take that pit stop.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
The moment that he's done, he leaves that podium, he's out,
it's over, and.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Mike Johnson can call for the vote.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
So he does have to stand there in talk until
he evidently can't anymore or whatever. His end game here
is planned. So as we are diving in to a
Independence Day weekend with what looks like maybe President Trump's
entire agenda to celebrate Unindependence Day this year, I couldn't
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help it to think of Liberation Day meeting Independence Day,
and so I'll explain, you know, technically Liberation Day, Liberation Day,
remember that April second. That was April second. It was
widely misunderstood at the time. Led her to a real
short term freak out. A lot of people are not
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feeling so liberated, feeling a little tight in the chest,
a little nervous when I'm taking a look at the
stock market.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Created a historically great buying opportunity in the financial markets.
So that's what Liberation Day was. The whole tiar thing
where you had all the economists that are always wrong
and say, oh my gosh, this guy is going and
then people that are smart going, hold on, Donald Trump
is president of the United States. This is going to
be great by and so there was that. But anyway,
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so you had a Liberation Day. Now you've got Independence
Day tomorrow and generally understood, right, we get Independence Day
also probably underappreciated, certainly in places like I don't know,
New York City, but anyway, you know, and thinking about
Independence Day this year, liberation also came to mind because
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I thought back, I'm like, I kind of remember where
I was personally a year ago today. And so what
I actually did in advance of today's show is I
went back to a year ago, and I'm like, what
was I talking about? And in my top stories a
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year ago, my message was that Independence Day is one
hundred and twenty five days away, and sanity would be
restoring two hundred and one days, because we were out
the point where I was like literally counting down the
days until election Day and Inauguration Day when dementia Joe
would finally go. And among the headlines, among the headlines
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nationally a year ago today, you had dementia Joe pledging
that he was going to stay in the presidential race.
After the Botch debate, we had a story that he
had just given billions more to Ukraine, because I mean,
you know, why not, right, I'm sure, Zelenski asked nicely. Also,
the New York judge in the stormy freaking Daniel's hush
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money case announced that he had delayed the Trump sentencing.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
That's where we were a year ago today. Those were
the big stories.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh and an average of nearly ten thousand illegal immigrants
still pouring into the country per day. That's fun. So
that right now what we're talking about. One of our
biggest concerns is simply the timing of this final vote
in what looks like a very likely outcome for President
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Trump being able to sign his agenda into law on
Independence Day. And also, you know, kind of like calculating
how much is my tax saving's going to be? What
what is my tax cut gonna look, which, by the way,
coming up in the second hour, I'm going to get
into that. If you want to know what does the
BBB mean to you, I'm gonna give it to you
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very specifically, because there's so much more money on the
line here that I think even some of the more
credible sources that have reported this have brought to you
so we're gonna break it all down. You're going to
know exactly what this means to you and your family
when you take a look at how much better of
a place we're in. We can get more specific here
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with some of these things.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
So you.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
We had an incredible jobs report this morning that came
in well better than expected. Unemployment rate dropped yet again.
The inflation rate. The inflation rate at two point four
percent right now. You know, it's the lowest that it's
been since Trump was one month removed from previously having
been president of the United States. Last time we had
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inflation as low as it is right now, one month
after he was last president. And by the time you
factor in wage growth. All right, so how much more
is the average household bringing in now? The answer is
four point three percent. Okay, so most recently, the average
American family, we finally get in the head again, we're
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doing about nearly two percent better. You know. So you
get done paying your bills at the end of the month,
what's left over You got about two percent more than.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
You had before. That is the best quality of life
improvement that we've seen since Trump's previous presidency, since his
first administration. Look a year ago.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Today SMP five hundred thirteen percent higher four one k
balances saving rates they've hit record highs. And as you
hit the road for independent state gas prices forty cents
per gallon and lower than a year ago. Today, you
have one hundred and ninety billion dollars in government waste
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that's been dozed. By the way, I mean, like doze
really has stopped dozing since Elon Gonzo, but still ended
up saving eleven hundred and eighty dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Per federal taxpayer, not peanuts.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
On immigration, the Lincoln Riley Act now law attempted border
crossings down ninety three percent. Access into the United States
down by ninety nine percent. The CBP one home map
that was used by the Buiden administration to fly nearly
a million illegal immigrants into this country. Yeah, not so
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much anymore, right, thats ay, Matt being used to say,
see to fly illegal immigrants out of this country. On
that note, isis daily detentions of fifty three percent over
a year ago. Oh and by the way, surprise, surprise,
because as detentions rise, guess what's falling.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I look at that less crime, a lot less crime.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
In fact, did you know homicides down by twenty one
percent so far this year.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Robberies are two.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Property crime sixteen percent lower, violent crime in general down
by eleven percent two and the biggest impact a lot
of times the biggest cities with the biggest illegal immigrant
population problems, like Denver and Aurora. So it's of absolutely
no surprise, in part because one of the things I've
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been tracking about a year ago in like what what
are we doing? Like the definition of insanity territory, Who
in their right mind would do this to a country?
By this time last year, twenty four percent of all
drug trafficking done in the United States have been done
by illegal immigrants. Twenty four percent. You wanted to get
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rid of just almost a quarter of all drug trafficking,
get rid of the illegal immigrants, twenty five percent of
all property crimes, illegal immigrants. You want to get rid
of a quarter of all property crime in this country,
just get the people. They are not legally here in
the first place. The heck out, twenty eight percent of
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all fraud. Yeah, non citizens, non citizens, And you know
the lie. I remember hearing this even somewhat recently on
by one of the idiots on the view. Oh well,
you know, they are less likely to commit crime than you.
That is such a lie.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean it might have.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Actually been true, like thirty years ago when you had
a Mexican who came over to pick some oranges.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
No, not in a very long time.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The non citizen crime rate by a year ago at
this point, how much more likely do you think a
non citizen had become to commit a crime than you, like, well,
I don't know, I mean, yeah, kind of a shaky person.
You could be a shaky person and the uh, your
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average non citizen was still going to blow you away.
They had become nine times more likely to commit a
crime than the average legal citizen. Again, not necessarily the
biggest surprise when you know the first action by said
individual is to you know, kind of say, uh, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
To ignore federal law.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So yeah, none necessarily a surprise that once their first
action is to break the law, that then suddenly they
don't go But now straighten me, even I just want
to abide by all the laws this country.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I really care about it.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So yeah, that's how bad it had become Your average
non citizen in this country nine hundred and fourteen percent
more likely to commit crimes than the average legal citizen.
And in fact, if you take a look, during the
whole four year window of the Buying administration, total crimes
committed by non citizens rose by six hundred and twenty
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six percent. I mean, they're just mind blowing numbers. But
then again, you know, we know the impact and the
situation with all the open borders, and that is just
on those two pieces. I'll pick up there next Brian
mudd In for claim bug drive a new hyunday with
just ninety eight dollars down like a new twenty twenty
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five hundred. People will suffer, people will die, and it
will be at the hands of Republicans.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Both.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
In fact, that's actually that wasn't the planning that went
in to the Act formally known as the BBB. You
had some Republicans that got around and said, you know what,
we haven't done in a while, we haven't created any
legislation that's sort of killing people. And you know what,
you're right, So you know, I think we should should
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get back to our roots. We are Republicans, after all,
so we should craft red legislation that kills people. And
then you know, for example, in the event that the
warm and fluffy migrants that are sent to alligator Alcatraz
and the event that they don't, you know, manage to escape,
we have, you know, people to feed to the to
the alligators. Sits just the rhetorica is just so over
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the top in so many different respects. And I tell
you what, just say, noticed slugs the whole Medicaid thing
and this is is such a joke. And I'm going
to break down specifically what the work requirements are with
the Medicaid and the snap provisions in the Act formerly
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known as the BBB, and just a few we'll get
to that. I mean it basically, if you get off
your couts for twenty hours in a week, you're good.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
You're good.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's pretty much the way it works. So that's what
and apparently that's killing somebody to actually do that. So
Brian mutt In for Clay and Buck and as we
are on BBB, watch as Hakeem Jeffries going strong, going
strong in the House joining us is great television. And
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iHeartRadio's White House correspondent John Decker, John, this's a bit
unexpected from the House Minority leader.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
Well, it is unexpected to a certain extent, but Hakem Jeffries,
he is one of those leaders in the Democratic Party
and he's acting like a leader for his party right
now in terms of delaying what to me, Brian is
the inevitable, and it is inevitable that we saw this
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in the procedural vote that took place early this morning.
We'll see it on the actual vote that takes place.
When that occurs on the House floor, every Republican that
values their career in the House of Representatives and their
future career in the House of Representatives will vote for
the legislation and this bill will get to the President's
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desk for his signature in time before that self imposed
deadline July the fourth.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
That will be a part I believe of.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
The President's schedule tomorrow, the President assigning this legislation his signature,
domestic achievement of his second term in the White House,
getting that all done sooner than when he got that
big tax cut bill sign in his first term in
the White House.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
And to give you a little background about John if
you're maybe not familiar, John has covered every president starting
with Bill Clinton. He also is the only member of
the White House Press Corps that is an attorney, having
studied once upon a time under one professor Jonathan Turley
Decker now himself a professor at Georgetown UCLA and John
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as we take a look at, you know, the historical
ramifications here. Obviously, you know, Trump wanted one bill. There
are a lot of conservatives that said, hey, we need
to do this in two. The Senate wanted it into
In the end, you take a look at the the
President's influence, the will and how this has come together
a to get the Senate on board with one bill
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and then be the House. I mean, you had House
Freedom Caucus members like chip Roy just two days ago
saying that what the Senate had done was a literally
a deal killer of an already bad deal. And here
we are on the precipice of whenever Hikema has done
doing what he's doing, passing this thing.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Well, that's right, you know. As for chip Roy, you know,
I think time and time again he's proven that he's
all bark and no bite. You know, he threatens not
to vote for the legislation and ultimately caves in, as
do other House Republicans that want to make a career
of being a member of the House of Representatives. So
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does it surprise me that, you know, Chick Roy, a
member of the Freedom Caucus, and other members of the
Freedom Caucus are caving in. No, it doesn't, you know,
because President Trump has the ultimate power, and that is
something that he has threatened to wield, and that is
essentially saying, you vote against this legislation, your career as
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a member of Congress is over.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
That's a very real threat.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
He's not afraid, interestingly enough, Brian, of making that threat outwardly.
You know, normally those are the kind of threats that
you make behind closed doors. He puts it on truth
social He makes everybody aware of what he's saying to
these members that may be on the fence in terms
of supporting the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
John, One of the other things I was thinking about,
you take a look out where we are today in
Trump's presidency. So you know, the first time around, he
signed two hundred and twenty executive orders in four years.
He signed believe it's one hundred and sixty five already,
three more than President Biden and Team Autopen did already
in just over five and a half months. And you
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take a look at you know, his tax cut and
jobs Act his Trump tax cuts. The first summer, it
took until December the first go round to be able
to get his tax cuts through. Here we are heading
into the Independence Day weekend, and it looks like he's
not only going to get those tax cuts made permit,
he's going to get the additional tax cuts he promised,
a no tax on tips overtime, also some big breaks
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for seniors that for most seniors going to work, basically
like not having tax on Social Security income. You start
putting all this together, and it just shows how well
oiled and organized his policy approach is and how effective
he is.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Agree with you.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
You know, this is a president who in his first
term he clearly was someone who is learning the ropes
from insiders. He had never been a politician before at
any level before becoming president, and so he did rely
on others in terms of showing him how to move
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legislation forward. This time around, he doesn't need that help.
And this time around he understands all the levers of
the power of the presidency. He realizes how powerful this
office is, made even more so powerful by that recent
Supreme Court decision handed down last week.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
And so, look, I think that this is a.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
President that understands all the ways that he can move
his agenda forward, and we're seeing it applied in real time.
I think it's pretty remarkable. You know, there will be
this will be a part of history, you know, in
terms of the way that the president has managed to
move his agenda forward in such a record amount of time.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
John, you're with the president last week at the NATO summit,
and pretty remarkable situation. He tried to get it done
his first term. It was starting to come together. It is,
you know, ultimately coming together now where the NATO members
this out of Spain contributing five percent of their GDP
to you know, to to defense spending and pretty much
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getting not just what we've seen here at home, which
is his own party in order to get his agenda done,
but also around the world. How he's managing to get
that agenda done, especially with trade now too.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Well, that's exactly right, Brian. You know, that's the thing
about President Trump. He understands the leavers of power in
terms of moving his domestic agenda forward, and he understands
the leavers of power in terms of moving his foreign
policy agenda forward. And this is part of his foreign
policy agenda when he left that NATO summit last week
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in the Netherlands, and as you point out, I covered
that summit. I was in the Hague for the summit.
I was at the press conference. He called on me
at the press conference. When he left, he was exuberant
because everyone of his goals was achieved during the course
of his summit. And I think he made it clear
to every one of the thirty one other members of
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the NATO Defense Alliance there is one leader, and that
leader at the United States of America, and the President
is the leader of the United States of America, and
he's going to exert his power, his influence to get
his way with those other NATO Defense Alliance members. We
saw that play itself out last week. So, you know,
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for all of those who were saying it's been a
remarkable two weeks for the president, I couldn't agree more.
It has been a remarkable two weeks for the president,
including of course that those attacks on those three nuclear
sites in Iran. So to me, you know, this is
some one who has a winning streak going and obviously
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would like to keep that winning streak going beyond ultimately
signing this big, beautiful bill.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
With him the next few days.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, he's definitely not tired of winning. Yet a lot
of people are not tired of winning within the administration.
And also China announcing that yeah, you know, the terms
of the trade deal are on the English trade deal.
The UK trade deal actually took effect this week, just
announced the Vietnam trade deal. Where they were charging us
to do business there, now they're not. We weren't charging
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them anything, now we are. I mean, it just goes
on and on, and it gives you a roadmap for
where a lot of those trade deals are probably going
to land to. And then you talk about like the
the mops and that whole situation, you know, the Defense
Department yesterday talking again about Yeah, I mean, at a minimum,
the nuclear program set back a couple of years, and
that to me was always one of the things anyway,
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and you know, you spend it's an occupational hazard. You
spend a lot of time around colleagues in the press
corps that were endlessly you know, trying to you know,
say that you know, somehow or another, the linked information
or you know, whoever wanted to say that the nuclear
program wasn't really damaged more than it was.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I mean, there just is no sense in this, right.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I mean, ultimately, if Trump was propagandizing, you just walk
with it and you think, okay, well he is, you know,
just saying that they got and they really didn't. So
what you know, you have Iran that comes back in
six months and says, surprise, we've got nukes. I mean,
there just is no way to effectively propagandize that situation.
It either happened, is either destroyed, or it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
I agree, you know, I think that you know, even
those who want to get that readout from the administration,
Democrats on the Foreign Relations Committee in either the House
of the Senate, have to acknowledge that the Iranian nuclear program,
it's nuclear ambitions have been set back substantially because of
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the action taken by the United States. And you know,
you mentioned, you know, all of the things related to
while why the president can't just propagandize this issue. He
can't propagandize this issue. I mean we're talking about also
Israel's safety and security. Israel's not going to propagandize this
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because they're very security. Their existential existence depends upon Iran's
nuclear program being curtailed. Back to you, know zero essentially,
and you know, when we hear from Israeli intelligence they're
satisfied with the actions taken by the United States.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think that says a lot.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
You know, if they weren't, maybe they would be saying
you need another go around, you know, in terms of
taking it out altogether. They're not saying that, Brian, that
they're saying it has been in the President's word, he
uses obliterated. It has been obliterated, it has been decimated.
I think that those two words certainly apply to Aron's
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nuclear program right now.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Brian mudw with John Decker. One more for you.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
John so mentioned that John is the only member of
the Press Corps that's also an attorney. So putting your
legal hat on for the whole Didty situation. So we
get the verdict and not guilty of the most serious charges,
Judge is holding him in jail until sentencing.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
What do you make of this deal?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
I don't know, you know, I mean, as you know,
it's a substantial bond that he needs to post. I
believe it's fifty million dollars, and that's the reason why
he has remained behind bars for all of this period
of time. I don't know, you know, maybe that it
gives you a window about what kind of sentence he
intends to hand down against Didty, But you know, as
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the interest on the face of it, as you know,
he really skirted the possibility of very serious prison time.
Remember this is a federal case because of the fact
that he was acquitted on the most serious charges. For
the two counts that he was found guilty of, they
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have maximum penalties of ten years in prison. He will
not get ten years in prison. You know, he's a
non violent offender, someone who's not a repeat offender. I
can't tell you what the judge is ultimately going to
sentence did he two in terms of a jail sentence,
a prison sentence, but it won't be anywhere near that
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tenure maximum sentence. And certainly his lawyers are going to
ask for no jail sentence, a time served for all
of the amount of time that he's served in prison,
and will see ultimately whether that federal judge agrees with that.
And let's not forget the president has the power of
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the pardon. And it would not surprise me. Nothing surprises
me these days, Brian. It would not surprise me if
did he get the pardon from the.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Residents of the United States.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
So we'll have to wait wait and honey, you know,
I mean, he's got a lot of big things on
his plate right now. But that would not surprise me
in the least.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Really. I mean that one was was not on my
bingo card. So that is that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So Decker pointing, pointing to the outfield right now, and
we'll see what happens there. That would be uh, that
would be an interesting development. John really appreciate it. Thank
you so much for tom the inside.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Thanks Brian, talk to you soon. Byebye.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
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Speaker 3 (28:45):
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Speaker 7 (28:52):
This bill, over the next year, we are going to
see growth like we have not seen and importantly, it
is going to be non inflationary growth, which is something
that Democrats couldn't do.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Treasury Secretary of Scott Basset, he was on with Maria
Brock Tromo Bock's business this morning.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
And we are going to unleash growth.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We are already seeing the lowest inflation we've had since
basically Trump was last president. And yeah, we are going
to see in time for independence, say a big beautiful
bill on President Trump's desk, or at least the act
that was previously known as the BBB, as soon as
Hikeem Jeffries gets done doing his thing, his sparty impersonation
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right now. He was apparently motivated by Corey Booker, and
he is making his last stand. And somebody who's joining us,
Brian mud In for claim buck. Somebody who's joining us
has been entertained by today's festivities. I'm sure Congressman Jimmy
Patron is joining us now. Jimmy, how's it been taken
in the festivities with HIKEM today?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I would rather have root canals without any nova Kane.
This has been the biggest colossal waste of time. We
are delaying savings and benefits to the American taxpayer right
now with ridiculous you know, shows like this right now.
Hakem has been up there now since three point thirty
(30:21):
in the morning. We've all been awake watching this, and
it's all because he wants to break Kevin McCarthy's record
for speaking the longest on the floor NonStop.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
This is this is the type of.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Like the Congress.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Hey, Jeffy, you were saying that it looks like it's
a it's about to come to close right a round
one thirty.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, that's that's what That's what we're anticipating. But who
he's gonna go. And I look, I didn't mean to
go off on you just like that, but Brian, you're
you're my pal, and I think I can be candid
with you and and the public doesn't deserve this type
of ridiculousness.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Now you're you're I think right on point. I think
he kind of captured the field of the thing. You know,
the only thing I'm impressed by is just the lack
of the need for a bathroom break. You know, I
could stand up there and throw my arms a ran
rave two. But you know, it's it's impressive. I don't
know if he did the fasting thing like Sparti did
in the Senate, but you know, you got to get
the guy credit at least for not needing to make
a pit supper too.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Well, I'll tell you he does not look good. From
the time he has started at the time he is now.
You could see he keeps on pat and himself. He
does not look good. He looks pale. So anyway, I'm
sure he's tired, you know, good for him. I have
no idea what he's been talking about.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
All right, Jimmy, So a couple of things. First about
Jimmy Patron is he He is a congressman from Florida.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
He took over the.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Matt Gates seat in the special election recently. Previously that
was Florida's CFO. And Jimmy the reason I wanted to
talk to you today. You got a lot of us
that are fiscal conservatives. You got a lot of us
that take a look at debt, the federal deficit, the
federal debt, and we're like, you know what, the BBB
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doesn't look like such a beautiful thing when you see
some of these projections. And even if the CBO stuff
doesn't factor in enough growth, what have you. I mean,
he's still kind of hard to get from here to
there and feel good about it. From a fiscal conservative perspective,
I mean, tax stuff is awesome, you know, takeing care
of border and all the illegal immigration nonsense. I mean,
so much good in here, but I mean when we
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do still have a bill that has you know, illegal immigrants,
criminal illegal immigrants being able to get access to medicaid,
I mean, you do kind of scratch your head.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
With some of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
So what I want you to be able to do is,
from the perspective, put yourself back in your old shoes.
I know you're getting ready to vote in favor of
the act here momentially, but I want you to put
yourself back in your CFO shoes of the third largest
day in the country that has a balanced budget. As
someone who I know is deeply convicted as a fiscal conservative,
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and I want you to tell us why you're voting
for this and also why those of us who are
physical conservatives that are concerned maybe shouldn't be so the.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
One And I think it's probably the ones that are
the easiest for people to understand, whether we talk about
the no tax on tips or the no tax in overtime. Now,
that may not necessarily affect some of your listeners because
maybe they're in a salary position, but as somebody who's
coming out of the service industry, and I think about
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how in the state of affoord of how big of
a service driven market that we are. Now you're basically
giving probably the biggest tax break in the history of
America to that middle class that has never seen that
type of ability to keep their own money in their
pocket and spend it. Also, it's that particular class of
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individual that has been hurt the mo by the increase
in inflation. So I truly think the president, he was
on the campaign trail, he heard the struggles that people
were having in the service industry, and oh gosh, why
not let's make no tax on tips. So it became
a little bit of a novelty. I mean, look, it's
almost like a little bit of a one off over
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some of the other messing that the President's got. He
keeps his message pretty simple so the average person can understand.
So those two issues, look, you can't bring them out
of the ground without having the ability to pay for it,
because it's got to get started before it takes through.
The President's so passionate about getting this bill signed as
soon as possible because he learned last time with the
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Trump tax cuts, they signed them too late. And most people,
if they reflect on how prosperous our country was in
twenty nineteen. The President wants to get back to those days. Unfortunately,
now we're fighting with this new inflation, it's new cost
of busines that we inherited from the Biden administration over
the last four years. So you know, I'm giving my
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trust to the President on what he sees as an
opportunity to just really supercharge money back into the wallet
of that middle class.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
So am I to take you then that you know,
the whole det and deficit thing, you're on the tact
that you believe we're going to grow our way out
of this.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Part of it will be growth.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Now here's the other thing. So you know, there's been
a lot of hard feelings towards the CBO and how
this has been scored, and how far off and how
wrong they were with the last Trump tax cuts in
the conservative nature of why they feel that the debt
ceiling is needed to be.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Increased in order to accommodate this.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
So we really feel like there's going to be some
consistency in their bad predictions that are going to ultimately
to the good of the bottom line of the American taxpayer.
Like I'm not I'm not thrilled with it. But you know,
as as I'm a believer that what Mike Johnson is
telling us what our plans are between now, it's it's
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a four year plan to try to do what we
want to do under the Trump administration, to get to
the balanced budget that we want to get to. You know,
this these priorities of the president right now, and we
put in the motion first in order to get our
economy back where it should be.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
All right, So Jimmy kind of walk us through this
past day.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
You know, we had members of the House Freedom Caucus
they're like, no way, you know, coming out of the Senate,
absolutely no way. You take a look at you know,
there having been one vote that that passed this thing
out of the House in the first place, and then
you know what what was being said coming back the
other way. So what is your understanding? Know what went
down the White House yesterday? What was said with the president?
(36:54):
What has theoretically made this difference that we are on
the precipice passing this.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Well, I think part of it was is is Thomas
Massey pleading to the President saying, look, I'll vote for
this thing if you stop beating up on me. I mean,
so you definitely you've got a number. It's a rule
of numbers, you know, Brian. You know, if you've got
one hundred people in the room, that you're going to
be ten percent of them are going to be all
about themselves. And so as you get these members of
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Congress who you know, have a base that they cater to,
and this is the way they communicate to them. This
is how they community consume their news.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Part of it is is taking these positions that are contrary,
which some of which have some merit to them. But
you know, you can't go and kill this bill with
what the Trump tax cuts alone mean to small businesses
and being able to allow the taxpayer to keep their money.
We don't want to increase taxes on people and this buildings,
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you're increasing tax on people. You know, these guys had
to come to their senses, but it was crazy. I mean,
we can get them all on board till three o'clock
in the morning, you know, I mean really, I mean,
you knew you were going to get here. But you know,
we're gonna, you know, try to do as much social
media and TV as we possibly can to drum up
as much attention for ourselves to ultimately get to the
(38:15):
place where we knew we were going to get all along.
So it's you know, it's it's just part of how
things roll up here sometimes.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So Massy Massy literally went pleading to the president.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Huh, that's what I was told. So I heard that.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It was a conversation that took place. And look, you know,
I'll come around if you just stop beating up on me.
And look, this was the president of the President can
repose as good as anybody. And I'm sorry the American
public wants his campaign promises completed. You know, there's some
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things of the bill that probably you know, like you
said earlier, with regarding the increase of the debts, they're
going to have those detractors of that. I'm not thrilled
about it, but this is a pathway to get what
the president promised on the campaign trail. And and I
get excited about Man, the cop, the firefighter. Now they're
not going to have to pay taxes on their overtime.
(39:11):
You know, these are the same guys that you know
are going to come show up for our house when
you're down nine one one, you've got an emergency. These
are the same guys, two of which just got gunned
down out on the West coast. You know, respondence, I mean,
these people put their lives on the line. You know,
I have no problem at all letting them be exempt
from you know, income tax or taxes on their overtime.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
All right, Jrevy, good stuff. So any doubt about how
this vote goes down just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
No, Look, I think we're gonna have some anxiety. At
least we're going to be voting during daylight hours. But look,
last night, we had members that went back to their districts,
So that's another that dragged things. We had members that
actually went out and they were hiding because they didn't
want to face the music on dealing with arguing their
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position on this life legislation. So I mean, yeah, look,
if you don't like making tough decisions, man, you probably
shouldn't have put your name on the ballot. So you know,
time is the most precious thing we got and we
have wasting an enormous amount of it with foolishness over
the last seventy two hours.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You know, memory serves you.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
You are Clay's congressman, at least, you know, part time congressman, right,
his home and the Panhand to where he is right now.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Actually, I'm sorry which one.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Clay, Yeah, no, you're got you're I think, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
He's there right now.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
You know what, I hope he's spending an enormous amount
of money in Northwest Florida enjoying the world's most beautiful beaches.
And yeah, he did a hell on TV the other
day and he was gushing about, you know, enjoying the
Panhandle while we were up here facing the monsoons. So yeah,
he'll actually he goes. He used to go into the
(40:54):
old iHeart station that I was in for a while
when he did a show remotely up there.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Good stuff, Yeah, no doubt, and a much better representation
that Clay has than May I have. Unfortunately, the same
house representation that the president does, which is lowis Frankel.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Nobody wins in that deal, you know.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
But you're.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
It is so cool to note that I'm talking to
you and you're doing still in on Clay and Bucks show.
I mean that just shows you where you have taken
your career and how effective you are communicating what's important
to the listeners. So I mean, you think about important
that family of listeners is and for them to entrust
you with their listeners. God bless you, dude. That's a
(41:38):
heck of a damn accomplishment. I'm proud to call your friend.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Well, God bless you.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I've lived a career on the periphery people far more
impressive than myself.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So anyway, Jimmy, God bless you. Look forward to the vote.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
Talk to you soon, See you, buddy, Take care, coybye.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Brian mutt In for claim buck.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
This runs directly contrary to what President's Trump indicat in January,
which was that he was going to love and cherish medicaid.
Nothing about this bill loves and cherishes medicaid.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
It guts medicaid.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
For slugs. It guts it for slugs. That's the only
Hakeem Jeffries. He is making the most out of his
magic minute. He has officially set the record for the
longest use of what's known as a magic minute by
the it's a house procedure. So he's now spoken longer
(42:35):
than McCarthy. Record is a It's an interesting dynamic right now,
Brian mudd In for a claim.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
But because.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
You had Maxi Waters recently approached the podium and so
right next to Hakeem Jeffries, who is you know, still
going at it, although he has been reaching for his
mouth a lot recently, he's been going for water more
frequently recently. You have Maxine Waters that looks to be
(43:06):
I don't know, about three feet away from him, maybe
maybe two. And I'm wondering at this point all the
Democrats are standing now as well. So I'm wondering if
it didn't get to the point where it's like even
the Democrats are okay, Hikeem, so like you set your record,
We're going to send Maxine to stare at you. We're
just just gonna stand next to you and stare at
(43:28):
you until you're done here. I think it might be
a subtle maneuver by the House Minority group to try
to get Hikem to wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
But he's still going.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
He's still at some point we do anticipate here at
the NASU distance, we are actually going to get to
the vote that is going to give your wallet a
big break. Okay, so you've heard a lot of lies
about what the BBB actually means. You heard, Hikem, it's
all about the billionaires. They really don't have any any
(44:02):
new tricks. It's like, man, that playbook is old and dusty.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
So here we are.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
You know the burn he huffed, he puffed, You had Pocahontas.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
She whined that all went down the Senate aoc. She
still sounds like she's thirteen. Hakeem and the throes of
his last stand. Here you had in the Senate. You
know Tom Tillis and Susan Collins that did side with
the slugs, you know, those who don't believe in medicator
(44:32):
snap work requirements. Just who's a cute little illegal immigrant?
Oh you are here, have some food stamps in Medicaid.
But anyway, through kill version of House Freedom Caucus members
at the White House yesterday, it does look like we
are on the precipice of passing President Trump's One Big
(44:57):
Beautiful Bill Act, or the Act as it happens to be,
because of final act of pettiness. You probably heard about
this in a last minute maneuver when it was being
passed out of the Senate. Yet a maneuver that was
so petty. It was only something that Chuck Schumer would do,
(45:17):
you know, just prior to the final Senate vote. Good
old Chuck, you Schumer. As a rush often would say
he forced a motion to rename the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act, the Act.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Invoking the section of the Bird Rule.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's one of the arcane Senate rules that named after
the former Democrat KKK organizer turned longtime senator that they
now think is great. So anyway, Chuck, you then literally
went on to say that because of the formerly aesthetically
pleasing Act, people are going to get sick and die.
(45:55):
People are going to get sick and die, and you're
going to have hunger kids. And you know that's it's
the whole You know, Republicans want want your kids to starve.
So I actually think there's a far better chance to
like people get sick and maybe like seriously ill, just
by listening to Chuck and Hikeem. By the way, well
(46:19):
it does look like speaking of Hikeem in real time,
I think he's done.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Oh he's not.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Everybody, Ah, it's a heroes welcome. You ever noticed just
how ugly those people are to It's just I don't
mean to be offensive. It's like, you take a look.
You have all this great senior leadership of Democrats that
are now hugging Hakeem. Oh you are You're great That
is a that is a motley bunch of people right there.
I always said, there's nothing about hate that age as well,
(46:47):
you know, just it's not attracted, which, by the way,
AOC not gonna go so well, although I'm not sure
she actually really just words coming out of her mouth.
But nevertheless, what does this actually mean to you? Well,
the whole thing is huge money to you. If you
remember during the debate and the lead up to President
Trump's twenty seventeen tax Cut in Jobs Act, remember how
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you were routinely lied to by the fake news. Remember
how you were told that only tax cuts for the rich,
higher taxes for you.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
You know, one of the things I thought.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
Was was so instructive, just how pervasive the mind washing
of of most Americans was. You had even after the
tax cuts had kicked in, pulling from NBC News in
the Wall Street Journal showing that only seventeen percent of
(47:40):
Americans thought they were getting tax break again. They had
already started to kick in, but they had been a
lied to you for so long, and you still had
your godless souls in slanders news media that still had
enough influence, apparently with people that only seventeen percent actually
thought they were getting one. In reality, over eighty percent
of Americans saw tax break from the Tax Cutting Jobs Act.
(48:01):
What was the average savings twenty one hundred dollars per
filer within the first year. By the way, it's the
number only growing a lot bigger over the past seven
and a half years. And surprise, surprise, you have the
line that is the exact same thing, i mean, same
playbook from them, right, So this is gonna be horrible
(48:21):
for you.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
It is.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
It's the the.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Screw You Act, and you know, just for the billionaires.
But let's start with the bottom line. The one big,
potentially aesthetically pleasing bill, it is huge for you and
your household. So first of all, it makes permanent the
original Trump tax cuts with individual tax reductions for the
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average twenty two percent average filer twenty two percent. Now
how much money you start breaking this stuff out for
households By the time you take a look at child
tax credits, the nominal rate reductions, the average number of
people that file in the home, all these things, you
know what actually is because a lot of the numbers
that have been thrown out there don't factor in all
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of the tax savings. If you break out what the
tax savings per household that file taxes is you're at
thirty nine hundred bucks. Thirty nine hundred dollars. The wait,
there's more. Eighty four percent of households are going to
see additional tax cuts beyond the current policy. I mean,
(49:35):
ninety one percent will get some kind of benefit, but
eighty four percent stand to benefit by an additional twenty
nine hundred bucks annually.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
When this passes.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Come next year, another twenty nine hundred bucks in tax
savings for you and your family. So here's what's actually
on the line, and people will throw numbers out there
talk about all the The average household in this country,
the round trip on this deal is sixty eight hundred dollars.
(50:09):
If you had the tax increase from having the Trump
tax cuts expire and then also not the benefit of
the additional tax cuts here, you round trip would be
out sixty eight hundred bucks next year your family, average
household in this country. That comes from beef up, beats up,
(50:31):
child tax credit, no federal taxes on tips, overtime, higher
standard deductions, real money, real savings coming right down the line.
And one of the really big ones, seniors, you know,
one of the things that Trump. Of course, it was
the no tax on tips, no tax on over time
and along the way you said, and no no tax.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
On Social Security either. It was kind of like one
of those, and we'll throw that into it.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
So it's not explicitly that way, but the way that
it did end up getting put in here pretty much
works that way. So seniors over sixty five get a
huge boost, get a huge boost.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Six thousand dollars added to the standard deduction. So what
does that mean. Well, for the average senior.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Over sixty five comes out to just over one thousand
bucks per year in savings. So married filed filing jointly
both over sixty five, that's another about two thousand bucks
in your pocket. And for almost all seniors it wipes
out effectively the tax liability from Social Security. So you
pretty much delivered on it that way too. Things that
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people don't know about. You have an American made car,
you get a naught alone, yeah deduction that'll average four
hundred and seventy five dollars a year, and savings on
that next year the standard deduction. You know, almost everybody
uses the standard deduction now is one of the ways
that the first Trump tax lawended up closing so many
of the loopholes, so many of the deduction loopholes. Ninety
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one percent of taxpayers use the standard deduction.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Well that's going up.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
That goes up next year one thousand dollars for individuals
and for married couples, So pretty much everybody sees some
kind of benefit. But again for over eighty percent of people,
over eighty percent of households, we're talking about the benefit
being into the thousands, over two thousand dollars per year.
(52:32):
So it's absolutely huge.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
Money for you. And so what is actually on the
line with this vote.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
It's the choice between a thirty nine hundred dollars tax
increase if you let the Trump tax policy expire, or
an additional twenty nine hundred dollars tax cut. Now, let
me ask you how many people you can do man
on the street stuff. You can go to your average Democrat,
all right, you could probably go to AOC. Don't tell
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her it's actually about this law.
Speaker 5 (53:04):
This bill.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
By the way, he came him, he is done. You
have Mike Johnson, a House speaker that is now up.
Looks like he's calling for the vote. So we are
going to get underway with the vote, and we probably
are before the end of the show going to have
the conclusion to the One Big Beautiful Bill Act the
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vote on that. So stand by for news and we'll
break it. We'll bring you all the breaking news on this.
So you know, like even AOC, you get AOC outside
of the house, Hey, you want like a thirty nine
dollars tax increase or would you like an additional twenty
nine hundred dollars tax cut? Even I think AOC, if
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you just don't tell her how it happens, is going
to go yeah, yeah, I would like that. Anybody who's
honest is going to tell you that. So, as always,
there are two sides of stories, one to facts. The
one Big potentially aesthetically pleasing Act. It saves you money,
(54:09):
It ends up delivering relief almost entirely across the board.
And the great irony is, you know, they're actually five
percent of people that ended up paying more under the
Trump tax law, the twenty seventeen law.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
You know who those people are.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
The billionaires, wealthy people that were able to make use
of standard or make use of deductions that they can't
make use of anymore when they were closing loopholes. So Yeah,
the only people who actually ended up paying more were
the wealthiest people's the exact opposite of what was being
said as we are on watch here with House Speaker
(54:48):
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