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Superman Fans Go After Clay

A fiery and humorous critique of Hollywood’s political messaging, with a sharp focus on the controversy surrounding the new Superman movie directed by James Gunn. The hosts open with a lighthearted jab at CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and his infamous Jeopardy performance, using it as a springboard to discuss media credibility and public perception.

The bulk of the hour centers on the Superman movie backlash, where Clay Travis criticizes Gunn’s framing of Superman as an immigrant and the broader trend of injecting progressive politics into iconic characters. Travis argues that Superman should remain an apolitical symbol of universal values like truth and justice, not a vehicle for modern immigration debates. The hosts explore whether Superman is better understood as an asylum seeker rather than an immigrant, given his extraterrestrial origins and adoption by American parents.

OH Rep. Jim Jordan 

Congressman Jim Jordan tout the recently passed Big Beautiful Bill’s middle-class tax cuts, investment in border security, and pro-growth reforms. They argue it will stimulate job creation, repatriate manufacturing, and shield Americans from inflation-driven tax hikes.

The show also covers the evolving landscape of college athletics, focusing on bipartisan legislation to regulate NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) compensation. Congressman Jordan outlines a proposed federal framework to protect student-athletes, enforce agent transparency, and establish eligibility standards—aiming to bring order to what he calls a “broken” system.  The interview wraps with President Trump’s rumored plans for a UFC fight on the White House lawn.

TX Sen. John Cornyn

A sobering update from Texas Senator John Cornyn on the devastating Hill Country flooding, which has claimed over 120 lives and left 170 missing. The hosts and Senator Cornyn explore the urgent need for improved flood warning systems and emergency preparedness, especially for nighttime disasters. Listeners are encouraged to support Texas flood victims through fundraising efforts promoted on ClayandBuck.com.

The conversation shifts to a shocking ambush on federal law enforcement officers in Alvarado, Texas, where 11 suspects have been charged. Senator Cornyn condemns the attack and links it to escalating anti-police rhetoric, emphasizing the need for strong support of ICE and law enforcement agencies.

Illegal immigration and border security take center stage as Cornyn praises the Trump administration’s efforts to restore control at the southern border. He highlights the renewed morale among Border Patrol agents and the shift from humanitarian overload to national security enforcement.

Run Jasmine, Run!

The high-stakes 2026 Texas Senate race. Senator Cornyn discusses potential challengers, including Ken Paxton and Jasmine Crockett, and the strategic importance of maintaining Republican control in a politically pivotal state. The hosts speculate on whether President Trump will weigh in on the primary, underscoring the national implications of the race. 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Clay. Have you heard of the Rio Reset? Sounds like
a trendy new workout, Buck, it.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil.
The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
I'm listening.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal
specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's
on the ground in Rio getting the whole low down
on what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Can he give us some inside intel?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
on the line.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck
audience this message.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.
These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,
and the US dollar is no longer the centerpiece. That
shift doesn't happen overnight, but make no mistake, it's already begun.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
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(01:38):
informed decision. One more time, Text my name Buck to
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Speaker 3 (01:43):
Ooh, came back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Congrats
as you just heard buck Sexton successfully knowing how many
points of safety is worked, unlike two thirds of the
Jeopardy contestants. You're to have a little bit of fun here,
and this is all real, But I want to how
funny is that Wolf Blitzer clip?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I mean that he would.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I mean, for everybody out there watching, he is held
up as one of the brainiacts of CNN, right, wouldn't
you say? That's probably fair to say that wolf Blitzer
is seen as one of the smarter guys on the
air at CNN.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
I think that's probably fair.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I don't know if it's as a result of his
Jeopardy appearance, but people have been suggesting that he's like
the confused fool for a while now, okay, so, but
I don't know, to be fair, he's probably I mean,
he's got to be over seventy now, right, like that
clip was from two thousand and nine. I will say,
I will say I have heard from people within the
CNN world for a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
He's actually a pretty pretty I've heard him super nice guy. Yeah,
he's a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
So I will give him a polo credit on he's
apparently a good dude, and we're having a little bit
of fun at his expense. But he's paid millions of
dollars and he's had a good run and so you know,
but he is apparently fair unlike unlike most of the
CNN anchors. And I could go through chapter and verse
he's apparently a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
To be fair, if I went on Celebrity Jeopardy and
I lost five thousand dollars, it would go insanely megaviral,
and I would I mean, I would have to own it, right,
but all the clips of me missing the questions and
everything else.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
It would Actually it.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Would probably be better for me to go and lose
a ton of money than to win a ton of money,
because if I won tons of money, nobody would share it.
They would be like, oh whatever, Klay Travis, still stupid
meani head more on, if I lost like five thousand dollars,
everybody that hates me would share it. So it probably

(03:38):
would go more viral for a collapse than actually being successful. Okay,
I tweeted this last night. I got a sense that
my take this is all real. I got a sense
that my take on Superman the New movie had gone
megaviral because yesterday I woke up and I had an

(03:59):
email from a japan news agency asking if they could
interview me for my take on the New Superman movie.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
So when you see the Suntori commercials with Klay Travis
in them or supporto, you will know that this is
that Clay's big in Japan. Let's just say it, Clay
is big in Japan.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
In my entire career of telling, tons of sharing, tons
of opinions on everything under the sun, there has never
been any request for me to be interviewed by any
Japanese news agency.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, well, cook, I think the one part we have
to let everybody know, though, is that the director James Gunn.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
I used to be.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I will say, if we were talking like late nineties,
early two thousands movies, I was absolutely dialed in. I
have my favorite directors, my favorite actors, you know, excited
about I don't even know who's I don't know who's
been directing movies for the last ten years.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I basically have no idea.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't pay attention because I think most movies absolutely stink,
almost all of them, absolutely think. Now he said something though,
here's the quote. Here's the James Gunn quote. So this
is where it all started.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
On a Variety magazine, which is like a Hollywood celebrity magazine,
shared a story and said, James Gunn says Superman is
about an immigrant that came from other places. How we've
lost the value of basic human kindness. Yes, it's about politics.

(05:29):
That was James Gunn's take. He is the director of
the new Superman movie that is opening. I think it
maybe already are out or opening today or whatever else,
I tweeted three days ago, And this is true. I'm
gonna skip seeing Superman. The director is a moron to
say this publicly the week before release. America is desperate
for a political entertainment. Hollywood's unable to deliver it. And

(05:53):
then I continued, I said, I made a fun movie.
I hope every one of all backgrounds and enjoys. Is
it that hard to say this when you've been given
hundreds of millions of dollars of studio money to make
a summer blockbuster. It feels like Tom Cruise is the
only Hollywood superstar who still gets this. That's what I
don't even think of all my takes, like I think

(06:16):
that is like one of the most tepid, non hot take,
non crazy takes. It has evidently gone megaviral, and the
Superman community of fans is furious at me and this
buck just in the last I don't know little bit.
On social media, I got the following messages sent to

(06:39):
me on Instagram from Superman fans. These are people that
are furious at me. This is a representative sample. I
am deluged in angry Superman fan messages. Here is one
hey word that you can't say on the radio. I
just want to let you know super Man has been

(07:00):
an immigrant since he was created, and that calling stuff
woke means you can't find a good reason to complain.
You're being a bitch, You're an idiot, wrong, You're being used,
You piece of blank. Go kill yourself. James Gunn isn't
the moron you are. Your family will burn for this? WHOA,

(07:27):
Your family will burn for this. I GE's my Superman movie.
Take Okay, it's got a good idea to go mega political.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
This is crazy town. Can I give you.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I'm gonna give you a few things here. First of all,
Superman is not an immigrant. All right, if we're gonna
play this conversation out a little bit, let's do it. Okay,
Superman is an alien. He is not a human being
who is subject to another jurisdiction on this planet and
has citizenship elsewhere. He is from another planet. Now, that

(07:57):
to me is actually a good case, especially when home
planet has been destroyed, as Superman' has if I remember
my comic book Lore, Superman, if anything, would be an
asylum seeker. Unlike all of the people who are showing
up in America pretending that their planet was blown up,
so to speak, pretending they can't go back to their

(08:18):
home country, they are just fraudsters. So Superman is an alien,
not an illegal alien, but an actual alien from another planet.
Does not have a jurisdiction on planet Earth that he
should be in other than America. And I think under
any reasonable view of asylum law, his home planet is gone,

(08:44):
so I don't think he can go back. So I
think that you could say he's a credible assyle. Okay,
you that is amazing.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
You are gonna be nerding out because my wife is
a super Zuo movie junkie, super nerd all the boys
go to all the movies and everything else. She actually
was upset that all the Super Superman people are mad
at me, and she sent me this because you're gonna

(09:14):
build on this.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Buck. She's also a lawyer.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
She said they're totally wrong, and she said, what you
just said, Buck, Superman is actually a true asylum seeker.
His planet was destroyed, all his culture and people are destroyed,
His first landing is on American soil in Kansas. This
is Laura Travis Lawyer. He's orphaned as his parents die,

(09:38):
so he's legally adopted by the Kents, who are American citizens,
thus giving him American citizenship even if not for one
and two. He has unique talents of great use to
the US that would be impossible to find after a
thorough search for other candidates, thus qualifying him for eb
DASH one, a controversially visa and legal channel to full citizenship.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
On top of all this, he ends up being one.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Of the most productive and useful members of society, choosing
to hold two full time jobs as both a journalist
and a crime fighting superhero.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now this is also absolutely, absolutely spot on crew.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I didn't know that that was I didn't know the
Laura had written any of that. It's absolutely correct.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
So the people that are the director of this movie
saying he's just like an immigrant, no jackass, that's not
even that's not even vaguely correct.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And this also builds on something that I that I
was getting at when this went megaviral. I would believe
if you gave me buck, if if you and I,
if I left this show and I suddenly became a
Hollywood movie director. If you gave me hundreds of millions
of dollars to make a movie, it might well end
in utter disaster. Remember Fox had to sell off the

(10:53):
lot at the Pico and Motor part of it where
the Westfield Mall is now for those of you out
in LA because they lost so much money on Cleopatra
with Elizabeth Taylor back in the day for the movie nerds.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
So it may well.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
End then unmitigated disaster in the company might lose tons
of money.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
But it wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Be because I said to half the country, hey, I'm
trying to make an intensely political movie. I would go
full Michael Jordan Republicans by sneakers too.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I don't think it would have been smart of.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
James Gunn to say, Hey, I think it's super timely
that Superman would come out right now, because Donald Trump
is a super president and he's super man like in
the way that he responded to the assassination attempt. And
I think that if you hate Trump, you shouldn't come
see this movie. Well, that wouldn't be smart, right, I

(11:45):
actually would agree with that take, but it wouldn't be
smart if you're trying to appeal to the whole swath
of America. And I mean, look, we got a lot
of people who listen in LA and we've talked about
this before. When is Hollywood going to recognize that the
reason why Tom Cruise is the last Superstar is because
he just wants to make a political popcorn movies that

(12:09):
everybody can sit and watch that aren't trying to indoctrinate
you in any way and are just about entertaining you
for a great summer movie, right. I just I don't
understand why these people can't get it through their heads
that a political entertainment that everybody can watch it should

(12:30):
be the goal.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
No, because the goal these are communists. Their goal is
the indoctrination they view that they've reached a point like
James Gunn is already very rich, already has all the
connections he needs. It is more important to him to
make a movie that he can virtue signal to his
lib friends in Hollywood about than to make a movie

(12:52):
that makes a ton of money at this point, like
if he has to choose between those two things otherwise,
how do you explain things like snow White, which was
an absolute disaster. Hundreds of millions lost, and we knew
it was gonna lose money the whole time. We're not
making that movie. But it's because they're they're so ideologically
committed that it is not profit motive first, that's what
they used to say.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I might add. Then you say, oh, it's we're just
doing what makes money. That's not true.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
They care more about the mission of indoctrination than they
do making money with these films. And you see it
over and over again because every time we say this
is going to be a disaster, there's going to be
a bomb.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Pretty much.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Is the only exception of that is the Barbie movie, which.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Was so bad. Was so bad. I've still never seen it.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
I watched I couldn't get through it. I tried, I
watched some of it. I'm like, this is just trash, trash, And.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Is that just it was successful because they were just
they were marketing it was a diary to women and
it's like girl it was a whole girl power thing.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Like oh like Barbie and the nostalgia and everything else.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It is an absolutely garbage movie, absolutely garbage movie. And
I you know, just like people Clay I use to
say that Hamilton was garbage when people were waiting in
line for like three days for tickets. Okay, I was like, guys,
I just know it's garbage, and it is garbage. And
now more and more people agree with me because it's
just what it is, Barbie. Eventually everyone's gonna realize nonsense.

(14:15):
And don't get me started on Avatar. Those of you
who like Avatar.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, but Avatar is not to me as aggressively political.
I know, James.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Campbell, fern Gully with some laser guns or whatever. It's preposterous.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
It made it made a lot I think that there.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It didn't make a lot of It didn't make a
lot of but that was because the technology. It wasn't
because of the storyline. It was because of the three
D and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
I'm just telling you, somebody out there in Hollywood is
gonna get smart enough to just say, I'm not hiring
any of these woke bs moron people. We're just gonna like,
whoever Tom Cruise wants to work with, We're gonna double triple,
quadruple down with him. All he cares about is making
movies that are gonna be super entertaining, and that's what

(14:58):
we're gonna focus on and you're gonna mint money. You
are gonna make money hand over fist because I just
see stuff like this all the time and it just
makes me throw my hands up because I wanted to
go see Superman. I mean, I'm a you know, Middle
America guy, like I like to go sit in the
movies and have popcorn. I still like going to the
movie theater. I want to go see the new Jurassic Park,

(15:20):
even though I'm sure it's like, oh total track, Michael
Crichton is rolling over in his grave, good Heaven. I
enjoy seeing dinosaurs on the movie screen. I like seeing
fighter jets blow things up. I mean, I am the
average American consumer. Why would you alienate anybody from Superman?
You could easily say Superman is an aspirational goal that

(15:44):
is about everyone fulfilling the best possible abilities of their
own innate gifts. Like it's so easy to sell this movie.
Just don't tell me that it's political and about immigration.
By the way, when most people are opposed right now
to the immigration policies, not even fifty to fifty we

(16:06):
talked about this, It's like sixty five thirty five. The
guys a moron anyway, I thought you guys would enjoy it.
I do think it's important culturally. But there's people out
there that are furious at me for saying, hey, you know,
maybe Superman should just kind of appeal to everybody and
not be some sort of woke version of Hollywood fantasy.
And when you say that, the little fanboys come running

(16:27):
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get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Join
now by Congressman Jim Jordan, State of Ohio. So many
different things going on right now on Capitol Hill. Let's

(18:01):
start here. Big beautiful bill gets passed. Was it more
dramatic than you expected? Was it about what you expected
what happens now?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
No, it was about what I expect. I think the
economy takes off. I mean, I've probably I don't know
how many interviews have done on this issue, but it's
like I say all the time. You know it was
a good bill of clay because the left hated it,
and the left hated it because it actually empowered people,
empowered families, tax cuts for families, school choice, for families, resources,
most resources devoted to border security in the history of

(18:33):
our country to make sure our border stays secure. And
then the work requirements for able bodied adults to currently
get your tax money, in the future, they're going to
have to work, which is a good thing for the economy.
It's a good thing for taxpayers, but most importantly, I
think it's a good thing for those individuals.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
One of the most important things that you think we're
going to see now changing in the economy, Congressman, since
the bill has been passed. I mean, we talked about
tax cuts. That's great, more money in people's posts. It's
more money for the private sector to let the business
of the American people be business. But where do you
think we're going to see some of this in a
real life, day to day way take root and be

(19:11):
really helpful to the bottom line of the American people.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's just that fundamental point.
When you let families, when you let moms and dads
keep more of their money to spend on their goals
and their dreams, good things happen. That's good for that family,
it's good for their community, it's good for their local school,
their local business. It's just good for our economy. This
was the largest tax cut in history, coupled with the
largest investment in border security. Those were key items in

(19:37):
last last balls campaign and why the American people, I
think elected President Trump. So I think it's that basic.
Now we need to growth because we got a huge
deficit of running every single year, piling up this big Dad.
We got to begin to deal with that. But step
one to deal with all that is to get your
economy growing at a faster clip than, of course it
was under the Biden administration.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
All Right, and I are die hard sports fans, Buck is,
I would say, kind of coming along a little bit.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
He's starting to pepper a lot of sport.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Before you ask your real question, Congressman Clay wasn't wasn't
sure that I was going to know how many points
you get for a safety in football? Can you believe
the disrespect is sometimes I have to brook on this show.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
We played a Jeopardy question for him where the two
of the Jeopardy contestants got it wrong and Buck got
it right to his credit, But I'll allow you to
weigh in.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Yeah, well no, I figured he would get it right.
Everyone knows that's that's two points. But step I guess
a few people on a few people on Jeopardy. But yeah,
we love sports. I mean now, I gotta tell you, Clay,
I saw it for me. I'm not the greatest golfer,
but I shot an eighty one yesterday. So that's a
good score for me.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
That's really good.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
And it's and it's even better when you beat your
brother and your two buddies, which we got a chance
to sneak out and play a little bit yesterday because
this this week we were back in DC. So I'll
take that score because I don't normally shoot quite that low,
but I'll take.

Speaker 6 (20:58):
That any day.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
All right, So let's dive into this mess because if
you are a sports fan right now, the whole name,
image and likeness universe has been crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
And for people out there who don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Just a few years ago, you went from hey, you
get a scholarship to go to college, that's your full compensation.
Now you can get basically paid to play. You can
also get name, image and likeness. You guys are working
on a bill to try to standardize laws and make
these rules consistent. Tell me what you're working on and

(21:32):
where you are.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah, you know, we've got legislations actually bipartisan support. The
key sponsors are Gustilla Rockis from Florida and Scott Fitzgerald,
who's on our committee from the Great Say of Wisconsin.
And we try to outline some some basic things we
want to make sure we spell out for athletes, you
have a right to get innil money. You have a
right to work with agents. You have a right to
keep that information private. We make sure in this bill

(21:56):
that the agents have to disclose. Right now, nobody knows
who some of these agents are. There's kids transfer and
every year, so agent disclosure. We put in some guaranteed
rights for the student athletes. Now most of most of
these student athletes already have this, uh, but we want
to make sure it's in there. And then probably the
key part is we allow the entity that governs college
sports and we don't say what it is, but an essence,

(22:17):
it's the n c double A to set some rules
and and and basically say okay, we're going to give
you a liability protection. This is the any trust issue.
We're going to give you a liability protection so that
you can say, here's what it takes to be eligible.
You've got to maintain a certain GPA. Here's here's how
many years about. We've got kids student athletes today who
are competing like six years the COVID and everything else,

(22:40):
in the red shirt tiers and everything else. They're doing
like six seven years of competition. So we let let
the n CUBA set eligibility. We let them set that
the number of times you can transfer. Right now, you know,
some of these athletes are transferreding, you know, four or five,
six times, And what we're saying is you're going to
get one transfer under this hill. Allow them to get
one transfer. And then we also put in there this

(23:03):
sort of salary cap concept which every sports organization have.
And I want to thank you, Clay. I know you've
been working on this issue a ton with college with
conference commissioners, with athletic directors and coaches. We're trying not
to get too prescripted, but we think this is the
kind of bill that makes sense, particularly after the big
decision of the House decision. And then finally there's a

(23:23):
few more things where we talk about preempting state. You
can't have each state setting up a standard and trying
to outdo the other. So that's part of the part
of the legislation as well.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
I've been working on this, you know, because I just
think it's important to have a standard set of rules
that everybody, I love college athletics people out there understand this.
What is the likely because some people are going to say, well, Congress,
I mean, it's hard to get anything passed. You mentioned
that there's bipartisan recognition that this is a mess, and
I think anyone who is a college sports fan is
nodding along. It is a mess right now. It's a broken,

(23:56):
you know, sort of haphazard system in place. Coaches, players, parents, uh, certainly, administrators, everybody.
What do you think the chances are that this passes?
I know, and I'll let you kind of dive in
that President Trump has been supportive of trying to get
this fixed as well, because he's a big college sports fan.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
What's the timeframe? What does that look like as you assess, Well.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I think there's a there's a good chance that we
can't get a pass. I mean, we've got Samari Figures,
a new member from the Gratia of Alabama as a Democrat.
We got to mal buying them from Washington, so we
got already some some Democrats signing on. We think more
will do it, and I think it's just a recognition.
I use example, I think the top college wrestling recruit
this year is a young man out of Pittsburgh area,

(24:38):
and I think the rumors are he's getting like five
hundred thousand dollars. So if the if the top wrestler
is getting that, imagine what the quarterbacks are getting paid
to go to these top notch, big ten SEC universities.
I mean it's it's a ton of money. There need
to be there needs to be something done, and everyone
understands that. And so I think when you have coaches

(24:59):
and college presidents and athletic directors and conference commissioners begin
to talk to members of Congress and say we need
something that gives some framework to college sports, something we
all love, I think there's a good chance we get
to kind of bipartisan support that you don't see a
whole lot of these days in Congress. But when it
comes to college sports, I think you can get it,
and we'll get something done that I think will be

(25:21):
helpful to student athletes and helpful to college sports in general.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
You've been one of the biggest and foremost defenders of
Trump for ten years. I mentioned the President Trump obviously
is a huge sports fan. He's talking about having a
UFC fight on the White House lawn, which would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I bet you'll be there. I'd like to be there.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
You and I were together at the NCAA Wrestling Championships
in Philadelphia. You just referenced that when you look at
Trump two point zero and the first six months of
Trump two point zero and you compare it to Trump
one point zero, how much different difference is there? And
are you blown away, like both Buck and myself are

(26:00):
at the President's energy and just the efficiency with which
they have attacked this new term.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yeah, And I mean it's he's got his team in
place around him and the key you know, agencies, cabinet secretaries,
and they're just amazing. And you just look at the
last the attack on I ran was and taking out
their new cook capabilities was so successful. He goes to NATO,
gets them to and he up more money. So successful.
It's the big beautiful Bill Pass, so successful, the best
border security we've had in who knows our lifetime, probably,

(26:29):
And you can just keep going all the things he's
got done it's truly amazing and his energy. I called
him last night and then I actually went to bed
and I woke up this morning and so where I
had a misscall, he called me after eleven last night
and then and you know, he was up early this
morning working the phones. I mean, that's just the kind
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(26:51):
things I always say about him is he speaking of sports,
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(27:11):
I mean, he's off to an amazing start, and I
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that'll happen to the country.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yesterday we mentioned the idea of primetime hearings surrounding the
Joe Biden cover up. I know you paid attention the
doctor took the Fifth Amendment. Yesterday we led the show
talking about that, is there any momentum to really kind
of put people under the spotlight of a major national hearing,
much like occurred with the jan six primetime hearings that

(27:40):
Democrats did, and if I remember correctly the summer of
twenty two or thereabouts, what kind of momentum, if any,
might there be for something such as that.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, I think that option is certainly on the table
with Cherry macomber. There's some things we're looking at in
slightly different areas on Judiciary Committee specific with the you know,
sort of the auto pen doctor all that, all that
stuff with with Joe Biden. I really think that it
would be maybe the best thing is if you had
a whistleblower come for I don't know if we're ever

(28:10):
going to get that, but that that to me seems
what we need to really say, Yes, there there wasn't
really uh Joe Biden given the okay on this. This
is other people, But that'll take a whistleblower coming forward
to talk about that. Short of that, I think it's
tough to ever prove it. But that doesn't mean you
don't have hearings to just highlight how how we now
you know, we we all saw at the time, but
how we know how just how bad it was when

(28:32):
when when President Biden was in there and his his
inability I think to truly handle the task at hand.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Last question for you, Congressman, appreciate all the time, you know,
I think decently Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I know there's a huge flare up. Buck and I
have been talking about this.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
All week as to what might or might not be
in the Epstein files, all those things what And You're
not involved in the Department of Justice investigation, so I'm
not asking you about that. But what confidence do you
have based on your knowledge of the team in Cash
Pattel and Dan Bongino running the FBI.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
I got complete confidence, complete confidence in them and Pam
Bondi and Todd blanche over at the Attorney General Deputy
Attorney General the just night and day compared to what
we have with Garland and Ray and that that's that crowd.
So no complete confidence. And the latest investigation they've announced
in the Comy and Brennan that that has been reported.
I mean, I think this is critically important because never

(29:29):
forget what happened with Comy and Brennan and Clapper and
these guys in twenty sixteen. President Trump wins and after
election day, but before Inauguration Day, they all go up
to Trump Tower, New York and they brief him on
the dossier. Knowing at the time the dossier was BS.
They brief him on it so they can leak it
to the press and give it and therefore give it

(29:49):
some kind of credibility. That's that's how low they went
to go after President Trump. And now Director Ratcliffe has
people who are saying, oh, this dossier was. Guys are
saying what Brennan said in testimony to Congress was contradicted
by what they did. So I do think that investigation
is critically important.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Awesome, appreciate the time, Congressman. Have a good weekend. I
know we're not quite there, and keep us updated. Come
back on whenever you want.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
We will take care please.

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Speaker 2 (31:40):
The third hour of Playing Buck kicks off now. We
are joined by Texas Senator Cornyn Senator, appreciate you making
the time for us. The story that is first and
foremost in our minds this week is anything you can
tell us about updates and what the latest is with
the terrible flooding that hit the Hill country in your

(32:01):
home state of Texas and all the forest thoughts and
prayers that this audience has been sharing with the families
and the communities affected.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
What can you tell us, Senator, Well.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Thank you for having me on. And yes, it's a
very sad time. I think the numbers are now one
hundred and nine recoveries. Excuse me, it's now one hundred
and twenty confirmed dead, and unfortunately they were then able
to account for about another one hundred and seventy who

(32:35):
are missing. Just so your listeners understand this. Of course,
Guadaloopee River there overflowed went up twenty six feet in
forty five minutes in the middle of the night. But
there were in addition to some of the children, the
young children at some of these camps like Camp missed it.
There were day campers, people who you know, cast a

(32:56):
tent down by the Guadalupe River or had a camper
there for the Fourth of July and the fireworks, but
unfortunately they got swept up in this as well. So
one hundred and twenty confirmed dead, one hundred and seventy missing,
and of course this happened last Friday, so that number
will probably go up.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
What as and I know we're still in the early
days of uncovering exactly went wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
What went wrong?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Obviously it's hard to predict anything as it pertains to
flooding and exactly when it's going to happen. But I
know here where I live in Nashville, Senator, we had
an awful tornado and you go back and you look
and you find out, Hey, maybe there could have been
a better tornado awareness system in place. Are there better
flood related technology that could be applied to help people

(33:49):
in a situation like this where it comes through in
the middle of the night and maybe people it seems
quite clearly we're sleeping and they don't know the severity
and how quickly and rapidly the floodwaters are rising, until
in some cases, unfortunately it was too late.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Well, that's a very important question, and I think there
will be a time for us to explore all of that.
I know Governor Abbott has added this issue to the
special session that will conven and later this month in Boston,
And of course we're already starting to look at some
of these measures at the federal level too. Since we

(34:28):
worked cooperatively at the state, local, and federal level on
disaster relief and events like this. But unfortunately, there are
always some people who want to make politics out of
everything and claiming that staffing reductions at the National Weather
Service or some other cut as a result of the

(34:50):
Department on the government efficiency or contributed to this. I
will tell you that there is no evidence of any
of that happening, but it is I think fair to ask,
and indeed, I think it's necessary for us to ask
going forward, what can we do to prevent the loss
of life again if anything? As I said, it's flooding

(35:13):
occurred so fast at a in the middle of the
night in a way that just it's hard to imagine
what could have prevented it. But maybe there's something we
can do in the future.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's being the Senator John Cornyon of Texas and a senator.
I also wanted to ask you about a story that,
if it weren't for the huge story and the tragic
story of the flooding, I think would be much more
well known nationwide. It also occurred in Texas, and it's
this ambush. I believe eleven people have been charged so far,

(35:50):
ambush of a federal law enforcement officer and an ICE
officer who was hit in the neck. They had rifles
and tax gear, and to me, this is a harbinger. Unfortunately,
I think of things to come with the way the
radical left is going to approach this. What can you
tell us about that case and about what law enforcement

(36:11):
is doing to prepare for more of these radical attacks
that are likely to come.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
I'm sure you'll agree with me that there is no excuse,
no justification for attacking law enforcement officials like these two
ICE agents and the police officer in Alvarado, Texas. And
I know that a criminal complaint has been filed that
she alleges the assailant shot between twenty and thirty rounds

(36:39):
from an AR fifteen style rifle before it jammed. But
obviously a whole lot more casualties could have occurred as
a result of this, and thank goodness they did not.
But unfortunately, I think some of the rhetoric irresponsible. Rhetoric
starting here in Congress from Chuck Schumer the Maxine Waters

(37:03):
on down have basically sanctioned violence against law enforcement officials.
You're familiar with the fact that some of my colleagues
here in the Senate, the Democratic colleagues has said, we
need to pass a law that prevents ICE agents from
wearing masks. They were the ones who wanted us all

(37:23):
to wear masks back during COVID nineteen. But now when
the law enforcement officials are doing their job and trying
to protect themselves and their families, they don't want that
to happen. So I can't imagine that the best. The
overwhelming majority of Americans condemn this sort of attack against

(37:44):
law enforcement, and we ought to make clear that there
is no excuse for this and it will be prosecuted
to the fullest extent of the law.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Texas more the run of illegal immigration more than any
state in the nation. Now that illegal immigration has effect
actively ended, how much difference has it made in Texas?
And what are you hearing from people in your state
about the border now being shut down.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Well, I think they're gratified that the borders now under
control and now the border patrol can go back to
their job that they were trained to do and that
they want to do, which is to secure the border
and to protect the country. Given the overwhelming numbers of
people that were coming across during the open border policies

(38:33):
of the Biden administration. Many border patrol were doing things
like changing diapers, feeding people, transporting migrants and the like,
just because they were overwhelmed. And we all remember some
of the detention facilities which were jam packed with individuals,
and what the answer to the Biden administration was to

(38:54):
simply parole or to release these individuals and without even
a notice to appear for a course hearing in the future.
So I will say my constituents in Texas and along
the border are as relieved as anybody for this, for
President Trump to actually enforce the law. And I know

(39:14):
the border patrol morale is at an all time high
because they are now being allowed to do what they
trained to do, what they volunteer to do, which is
to secure the border and to protect the public.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Senator, what can you tell us about your sense of
what is going to happen now that the BBB, the
Big Beautiful Bill has been passed. What do you think
is most critical that comes from this and what are
you optimistic about?

Speaker 6 (39:47):
Well, I'm number one. We had to pass that bill
because if not, we would have seen a multi trillion
dollar tax increase on According to the Wall Street Journal,
sixty two percent of tax expayers. So all this propaganda
we've heard from the left, from Democrats that this just
advantaged billionaires and millionaires is just not true. And it's

(40:12):
shocking to me how easily people lie with impunity here
in the nation's capital. But it's become sort of coin
of the realm, and they are just they can't be
shamed in stopping it. So we just need to combat
that with the truth. And there's a lot of provisions
of this bill that I think people can be very

(40:33):
excited about. Number one, not having a huge tax increase
on top of forty year high inflation as a result
of bidnomics. The standard of living of Texans and Americans
had gone down because of this hidden tax of inflation,
and a tax increase is the last thing they need.
But President Trump made clear he wanted to extend the

(40:56):
benefits of these tax cuts to people who work for
way for tips, and who worked over time. So this
is truly a middle class tax cut. And I believe
that we'll stimulate the economy and economic growth in a
way that will create a lot of new jobs. It
will bring a lot of companies who built factories overseas,

(41:18):
bring them back home and create a lot of good,
well paying jobs here. I'm very optimistic about it, but
it really can't be viewed in isolation. I think it's
part of a larger package of economic reforms that President
Trump is committed to that's going to see the economy
take off. And right now we're hoping to see at

(41:38):
least three percent growth in the economy GDP in coming years.
We made a lot of these provisions permanent, including expensing
the new equipment and bonus depreciation for small businesses. So
I'm very optimistic about it. But obviously we got to
go out and tell the story, and we need the

(42:00):
the guy with the best megaphone, the President, to get
out there and help us, because people when he speaks,
people listen.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I know, last question for you, Senator. I know you're
in the middle now of the primary process. I know
it's going to be still a ways out. You've got
to contender on at least one contender on your side
of the isle. In Ken Paxton, I don't know if
you saw this, but Jasmine Crockett on the Democrat side

(42:29):
is potentially considering throwing her hat in the ring. What
can you tell us about the Senate race right now,
and you just mentioned President Trump. Do you think he
is going to weigh in in the primary? Do you
expect him to stay out? How is this going to
play out in your mind?

Speaker 6 (42:45):
Well, when I saw Jasmine Crockett was leading candidate in
a Democratic primary, I wanted to say, run, Jasmine, run,
But so I don't know who's going to get in
the race. There may be more people in the Republican primary.
The race is pretty quick. I mean the elections on

(43:06):
March the third, so we're the earliest one in the nation.
But I've run a number of racists in the past.
We know what to do and I'm confident of the outcome.
But Democrats are hoping, hoping that the Attorney General is
successful because he's probably the only Republican that a Democrat

(43:28):
could beat in the general election, and because of all
of as many troubles. I won't go into right here,
but we haven't elected a statewide Democrat for thirty years
in Texas, and they're looking to break that winning street
if for somehow he's able to squeak out a win
in this primary on March the third. But I'm determined

(43:49):
not to let.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
That happen, Senator, We appreciate the time, and yeah, run
Jasmine Run. I think there's a lot of people out
there that think she would probably be the best possible
steward for the Democrat Party in the twenty twenty six
Senate race. Appreciate the time, sir, and I want to
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Speaker 1 (44:16):
Thank you, Senator, thanks a lot, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3 (45:21):
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get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. That that
battle in general.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Buck.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
In the Texas Senate race, I just kind of mentioned
Jasmine Crockett. It is very funny. Run Jasmine run, was
what Senator can Uh. Senator Uh John Cornyn said. He
is running against Ken Paxton on the Republican side, the
attorney general. And there is talk that there may be
other people throwing their hats in the ring. Democrat side

(45:58):
is going to have a lot too and so and
he mentioned that the primary is early in Texas in March,
so that will be a big battle to see whether
Trump gets involved. And in the larger political universe, that
is a Senate seat that Democrats would have to be

(46:18):
able to flip to put the Senate really in danger.
North Carolina now with Tom Tillis not running, is going
to be an open, no incumbent seat. There's a lot
of battlegrounds in New Hampshire, in Michigan, in so many
different states out there, Georgia to see exactly what's going
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advantage fifty three forty seven with the tie break matters
so much. Texans I would be stunned if they're going
to vote for a Democrat. But there's going to be
a lot of money raised, a lot of energy out there.
So that's one to pay attention to, as I know
many of you out there are paying attention to. We
got a a question from a caller that I think

(47:04):
is a good one that is diving in with the question. Unfortunately,
now that over one hundred people have died that flood
hitting in the middle of the night as it did,
Greg and Orlando, Florida. This is a really good question
that I think a lot of people are wondering going
forward to try to keep this from happening.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Fire away.

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Yeah to you guys, said Dana Lass and all great programs,
but I look forward mostly for you guys, so I
love the show. What I wanted to say was I'm
not familiar with Texas First Day, but here in Florida,
we have alert systems Amber alerts for child children that
are missing. I wonder if there's anything in place or
could go in place like that for national disaster type

(47:56):
events that could help a mitigate or prevent or at
least alert larger areas of something.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Look, it's a very it's a very good question, Greg
and I think that they're gonna look at this, and
but I'll just point this out you guys. I know
this is gonna sound like it's very different, but it
will make sense in a second. You know how when
trucks go backwards, they beat they make this beeping sound.
They've looked into this because still sometimes people get run

(48:24):
over by the truck even when it's beeping. And I
think you can guess why people get so used to
hearing the beeping that and it's so danger isn't there
often times too correct because it's so far away that
their brain doesn't process, Oh maybe there's something actually that's
a that's a real risk here because I'm always You're
hearing that beeping everywhere, babe, all the time. That can

(48:47):
be the truth of alerts too. You you know, you
hear these alerts, and if you hear them too frequently,
especially about something like flooding in a flood prone area,
you know, so then you get into how do you
know when it's really the time and you're really telling
people and who makes that decision?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
It's a little bit like yes, And I think they're
going to look into that, and I think it's something
again what I mentioned.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
We had tornado sirens here.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
They go off, and I think it's the most valuable
at night because during the day you can assess in
some way if the river is coming up, you can
see it, you can look outside, you can recognize it.
If you're sleeping. Even if you're getting alerts on your phone,
you may not recognize them, and it can happen so
quickly you almost have to wake someone up from sleep,
and then the challenge becomes to your point buck. Sometimes,

(49:35):
if you do it too frequently, you just presume that
it's not an actual danger and you ignore it.

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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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