July 15, 2025 • 59 mins
Trump's Tariffs Paying Off
The economic impact of Trump-era tariffs, with the hosts highlighting a rare federal budget surplus in June 2025. They argue that despite media narratives, tariffs have not triggered significant inflation and instead have generated substantial revenue. The conversation also critiques Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell for high interest rates, which they claim have frozen the housing market and stifled economic growth. The hosts advocate for rate cuts to stimulate recovery, pointing to record-high stock market performance and strong job growth under Trump’s second term.
Gov. Gavin Salesman
Clay and Buck analyze California Governor Gavin Newsom’s national ambitions, suggesting he is positioning himself as a frontrunner for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination. They critique Newsom’s evasive responses on controversial issues like transgender policies and youth gender surgeries, portraying him as a polished but insubstantial figure who avoids taking firm stances. The discussion frames Newsom as emblematic of a Democratic strategy that relies on charm and ambiguity rather than policy clarity.
Illegal Immigration Realities
Deep dive into the pressing issues surrounding illegal immigration, border security, and the economic impact of immigration policies in the United States. The hosts open with a discussion on the controversial “Alligator Alcatraz” ICE facility near the Everglades, using it as a springboard to critique the media’s portrayal of immigration enforcement and the emotional narratives often used by the political left.
A major theme throughout this hour is the economic burden of illegal immigration, with Clay and Buck arguing that the influx of undocumented migrants contributes to rising housing costs, overcrowded emergency rooms, and inflated hotel prices—particularly in cities like New York City. They highlight how Airbnb regulations and the use of hotels to house migrants have disrupted local markets, driving up costs for everyday Americans.
Can You Believe This Question?
Media bias and cultural influence, particularly in sports journalism. Clay and Buck react to a viral moment from the MLB All-Star Game press conference, where a reporter from Defector confronted MLB officials over Georgia’s voting laws. Clay and Buck criticize what they call “agenda journalism” and highlight the irony of punishing Atlanta—a majority Black city—for state-level legislation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
We are Rolling Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
I am in Atlanta, Georgia, where there was a pretty
phenomenal home run derby last night. For those of you
that may have been paying attention, there were not a
lot of sports related activities on the program. Tonight is
the All Star Game. Buck And in order to get
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into our Atlanta affiliate studio, which is right by the
Atlanta Braves Stadium, they have a huge red carpet for
all of the players to walk and I think I
was able to sneak in because otherwise I don't know
how you get into this building. So I had to
already begin my day engaging in covert activities to even
(00:47):
manage to make it into the studio today. But it
is an amazing fun scene in Atlanta as the All
Star Game gets closer, appreciate our affiliate down here hosting
me in the Atlanta studios. You are in Miami, and
one of the big questions that has I would say
(01:08):
consumed much of the first six months of the Trump
two point zero regime is what's going to happen with inflation?
And Trump barely got any attention at all. June we
had a surplus, that is, we brought in the federal
government did more money than we spent, which had not
happened in years to a large extent, that was occurring
(01:31):
because of the tariffs that Trump is bringing to bear. Well,
we got inflation related numbers that came out earlier this morning,
and yet again, despite the attempts of the media to
pretend otherwise, the data does not appear to reflect that
there is a massive impact of inflation. We've got Treasury
(01:52):
Secretary Scott bessent On, and I think this is an
interesting conversation to have. Was Trump right all long so
far about the tariffs and the fact that they would
not have a major inflationary impact so far that largely
appears to be true. Here is Scott Bessont cut one.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number.
I think it's the trend. And I think one thing
that Wall Street, a lot of economist market in general
got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to
call a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, Buck, So so far, we are balancing the budget
in June, which may be a little bit of a
calendar quirk, but it's still a very impressive marker. We
are on track for hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs,
and so far the overall cost of goods has not
substantially altered. Is it time to say, hey, maybe Trump
(02:56):
was right? We're also I think it's worth mentioning near
record all time highs in stock prices as we sit
here in mid July. We hope that you guys listen
to us and stayed pat The S and P five
hundred is near an all time record high, just a
little bit back off of it that was set recently.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Was Trump right?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Is it time to actually have that conversation about whether
the conventional wisdom was totally wrong about this?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
You can certainly say Trump wasn't as wrong as they
said he would be, and they spoke with certainty on
these things, the certainty of the consensus, the certainty of
economists in quote right, All economists know, Clay that tariffs
are going to be inflationary. All economists know that tariffs
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are going to rise prices. Maybe we should ask those
economists what they really know, because that hasn't happened, and
to be clear, they said it would happen. It should
have happened if they were right right away, and that
is not what has occurred here. So once again we
have a situation where I think quite clearly Trump, just
like on trade with China, decided that he was going
(04:08):
to do something that was against not only the anti
Trump Democrat everything Trump does as bad so called consensus,
but even some in his own party, even some who
are truly Trump voters and supporters, were concerned about the
trajectory of this. And meanwhile it looks like it's the
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negative has not been really apparent at all, and the
positive is also on the positive side of a ledger
bigger than was initially anticipated, with one hundred billion dollars
of revenue coming in on the tariffs. You've also got
right inflation two point seven percent in June, which is
(04:50):
in line with expectations. So staying right steady, And I
know that they're now looking for formerly Scott Bessen says
the Treasurer secretary. They're looking for a FED chair to
replace the current FED chair, which I think is long overdue.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, look, if you told me, hey, what is the
most bollocked, there's a fun word, the most flummexed.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Part.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's another fun word of our economy right now, I
would say, and I bet most of you would sign
off on this, it's mortgage rates. Because as a result
of Joe Biden's inflation in twenty twenty one, we went
from about two and a half or three percent mortgage
rates to around seven percent, and as a result, the
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housing market's completely frozen in many respects. And as a
result of the housing market being frozen, lots of you
out there might be interested in moving, but because you
have such incredible mortgages, you're not selling. You're not moving.
That is the rate many of you out there would
be interested in buying. But the housing market is frozen,
(05:59):
and that's seven percent on some of these mortgages. You're
looking around and saying, I just want to rent. This
is another part where Trump is one hundred percent right.
Our interest rates are too high. They accelerated too rapidly
without hardly any parallels historically, because everything was wrong. Jerome
(06:19):
Powell completely with Remember he said inflation was transitory. They
didn't raise rates fast enough. Then they overly raised rates.
And right now, the cost of borrowing, particularly as it
pertains to the average home. But also if you're buying
a car, if you are paying credit card debt.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's all just.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Too high and we need I mean, honestly, I think
probably our interest rates are about two points too high,
and if they would come back by about two points,
I think you would see an unfreezing of the housing market,
which would accelerate I think economic recovery and growth in
a substantial way. To say nothing of business is feeling
more able to borrow money because the rate at which
(06:59):
you're having to pay it back is not so high.
So this all to me is interconnected. Because the reason
why Jerome Powell has said he has not cut rates
is he says the tariffs have a substantial inflationary impact.
We have not seen that so far. I would just say,
what has Jerome Powell done well such that we should
be trusting his and other Fed governor's opinions on this
(07:23):
visa VI Trump, because it seems to me Trump if
you want to criticize him, you can criticize him for
lots of things. The guy understands interest rates in real
estate better than maybe any president we have ever had.
And I do think that he's right about the fact
that our economy is not moving as rapidly as otherwise
would if we could get interest rates correct.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Look, the economy is something that, unfortunately, I think Trump
is almost a victim of his own success with this.
There's an expectation, based on the first time Trump was
in office, when he was still learning a lot more
on the job and figuring out who his team should be,
there was an expectation once again Trump would have a
strong economy because he understands business. He understands what will
(08:06):
get things going for all of us. Right at the
Democrats always focus on making it seem like there's some
class warfare agenda in the Trump economic push, but really
it and specifically in the big Beautiful Bill by the way,
they look at what does this mean for the average
American households disposable income, What does this mean for small
(08:26):
businesses that are still the economic engine of so much
hiring and so much of a GDP. So I think
that this is so far, so good with Trump. It's
looking really really strong, and it is a moment in
time where he's not getting all the credit that I
think he should, or that certainly he would if he
(08:48):
were a Democrat, but that he should even for a
Republican because there have been some other things on the
agenda lately in the news. And also I think that
Trump is expected to do well on the economy right
the so part of this that's I think a bit
of a break is a break from the consensus or
the expectation is when he does the things that they
(09:08):
say on his own side are going to backfire and
it actually looks like it's working. That's the part of
this that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, And if you want to argue on the flip side,
they're going to continue to say, oh, the inflation pressure
is coming, the inflation pressure is coming, And so that
is what Jerome Powell basically is arguing.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
With that in mind.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The prognostication markets, the prediction markets have it fairly likely
that in September we're going to get a rate cut.
So that would suggest to me that the Fed is
not as worried now about inflation somehow skyrocketing based on
the tariff decisions. And it remains to be seen what
exactly is going to happen with the tariffs we've got
(09:52):
now an August first date. There was a panic on
Liberation Day back in early April. Stock market is sold
off substantially. I think Trump is emboldened by the recovery
of the stock market prices to hold the line when
it comes to trying to put in place good trade
deals for the country. And I don't think he's pressured
(10:14):
by the trajectory of the stock market like he might
have been in April. Now stock prices go up and down.
They adjust constantly based on existing economic data, so there's
still much to be seen. But I think it's very hard.
We said before the election, Buck this was a three
prong election. Economy, border crime. Just focused on those three economy.
(10:38):
Stock prices, all time record high, inflation back down. Your
paychecks are growing faster than the average inflation rate is,
which means you have more money in your pocket. That's
a very good thing. Border shut down, deportation process underway.
We've never had a more secure border and crime. I
think this is one story that you and I and
(10:59):
a lot of people in media have not focused on enough.
And I don't want to jinx things because summer is
typically when the overall rates of violent crime increase. Kids
are out of school, people have more free time, people
are out in the streets more. They stay out later
because the sun's up longer. We are potentially heading in
twenty twenty five for the lowest national murder rate that
(11:21):
we have seen in a generation. Put cops back on
the streets, let them do their jobs. The number of
murders is collapsing all over the country because we now
have police that are able to do their jobs, because
we have ICE agents supporting violent predators and criminals. And
it's not getting very much attention, and I don't want
to jinx it, but as we enter summer, we're staring
(11:43):
down potentially a generational decline and violent crime in this country.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yes, it turns out enforcing the law creates more rule
of law. And also on the deportation issue, you're starting
to see the ramp up is real. This has been
promised all long by the Trump administration, and I think
Clay part of the panic that we've seen and the
really ineptitude of Democrats to get their footing going with
(12:10):
any kind of messaging here, is that the more they
show people these immigration raids, the more clear it becomes
that a big majority of the American people, including majorities
of forget about political party, Black Americans, Latino Americans, Latino
Americans majority want illegals supported. So they keep doing this
(12:31):
old playbook of if we just show and we use
the usual phrases about oh, they're just hard working, and no, actually,
these are people that aren't supposed to be in the country,
and the American people have decided that that's not going
to be okay anymore. This is real and Democrats haven't
figured out how they're supposed to message this. The Abrago
Garcia think was a massive own goal for them. I
think if we all remember that one the guy got
(12:52):
sent to El Savador MS thirteen guy alleged uh and
sure enough, Clay, Yeah, they're they're running low on areas
to hit the president.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
On no doubt good And by the way, the number
of Americans that as American citizens getting jobs, a lot
of those Biden jobs, when you go back and look
at them, were actually illegal immigrant jobs. The number of
American jobs that have skyrocketed under Trump is also substantial.
I think you're starting to see that impact. So all
of that economy in good place, border in good place,
(13:24):
crime in good place. That was the three prongs that
Trump ran on as his twenty twenty four platform, and
so far he's delivering there in a big way. We'll
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Speaker 1 (14:39):
I go ahead and write it down.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
What are we sitting at here July fifteenth to twenty
twenty five. So this is very much in pencil because
it'll be what about two and a half year's ish
until the Democrats will have to have a nominee for
twenty twenty eight, and that presumes that it ends by
super which will be some time in March of twenty
(15:02):
twenty eight. But Buck's theory on Gavin Newsom, I don't
think is a bad one at all. That he's just
going to power through that he thinks he's the guy,
the next man up.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now there will be other people who run. JB.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Josh Shapiro, and we will
see whether any of them are able to give Newsom
a real run. But it feels like Newsom is already
running because he's doing all these conservative in quotation mark podcasts.
I will point out producer Ali, we invited Gavin Newsom
(15:37):
on this program a long time ago, right, and he
has never been willing to come on.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, So we have had an open invite back when
I was when I was sort of enamored of Gavin
Newsom and I just wanted to have a nice chardonay
with him. We invited him on the program. He has
not come on, but he has been doing reach out
to non additional Democrat audiences. And our friend Sean Ryan,
who lives just up the road from me in Franklin, Tennessee,
(16:06):
actually I met him through buck several years ago, right
as he was starting his show. He had Gavin Newsom on,
and he asked Gavin Newsom a question, Hey, what do
you think about really young kids? I think he said
eight year old kids having ginger transition surgeries. Now, this
is something that I think ninety nine point nine percent
(16:29):
of parents think is crazy. But it has become Democrat
orthodoxy that if your young child tells you, hey, I
feel like I'm a girl and you're actually a boy,
or I feel like a boy and you're actually a girl,
that you should treat it as an honest opinion and
not as just Hey, young kids believe in lots of
(16:50):
things that aren't true and they have very fertile imaginations. No,
you have to treat it as a very serious thing
that even might require medical treatment. And Sean Ryan asked
Gavin Newsome about this that, and I want you to
listen to his totally disjointed Gobbly Goook response because it's
gonna basically be his entire twenty eight campaign. Is all
(17:14):
the things that I support and my party supports. Well,
I'm just going to talk and try to confuse you. Listen,
what about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I mean, look, I now that I have a nine
year old just became nine. Come on, man, I get it.
So those are legit. You know, it's interesting just the
issue of age.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I haven't.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I'm as I and as someone that's been so focused
on equality broadly LGBT rights, particularly gay marriage. The trans
issue for me is also novel. It's over the last
few years. I'm trying to understand as much as anyone
else thing, trying to understand all of that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What you know? That was like the hell? I mean,
all that stuff, I get it. He gets it. Buck evil?
Is it evil? Keanu reeves you this is what they're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
He's gonna say he gets that you guys might not
agree with it, and it makes it sound like he
agrees with you.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
But listen to that whole answer.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He just kind of jumps from one hot button topic
to another without having to take any sides.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
When when we were talking about this clip right before
we came on, I said, Clay, he reminds me of
the used car salesman who really wants you to like him,
is like, hey, handsome, I'm like, wow, guy who knows
his way around cars, like you must be you must
be like fantastic when you're tracking this thing, right, like,
(18:50):
oh man, love a guy who really you know, sorry,
you got what I'm saying, but won't tell you the
price of the car. Like the one thing you want
to know, how much do you want for this car?
You can't find out how much the car is. But
he just wants to keep on talking to you and
getting his hooks into you, so he's going to close
this deal. He didn't answer the question at all. And
this is what whenever Gavin Newsom is about to be courted,
(19:11):
he's like.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Let's just talk about how amazing state of California is.
Love my state, Love my states.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like we asked him what you had for breakfast, buddy, Like,
no one cares about how much you love the state
of California. But his whole thing is going to be
he runs with you know, he runs on charm and
hides the substance or has no substance, but same thing.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
He tries to acknowledge that there is a legitimate reason
that people would care about this, and then dodges all
actual positions that he's going to take. And again, California
is a broken in many ways left wing kingdom, and
(19:58):
in order to run to represent the entire nation, he's
going to have to turn his back on a lot
of the crazy of California. And the way he's going
to do it is just by trying to acknowledge that
he understands the concerns, and he's going to pivot and
say things like, we're all Americans, right. This is a conversation.
I guarantee you this is where it's headed. This is
a real conversation we should have. What do you mean
(20:19):
conversation we should have? Do eight year olds deserve to
have their penises chopped off? Is not really a conversation
to me. I mean, it's a pretty easy answer question.
And he's going to try to dodge all this. We
saw it earlier when he went on the Charlie Kirk
podcast and he tried to say that being male and
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competing in women's sports was completely unfair, and then what
did he do. State of California is fighting right now
the Trump administration for trying to say, hey, this shouldn't
be allowed to occur. And there is a dude who
won track championships in women's high school in California. So
he talks out of both sides of his mouth, which
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is what traditional politicians do. To me, it feels a
bit like Bill Clinton buck, except he doesn't have like
the actual background of Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was an
Arkansas guy who kind of understood things. Gavin Newsom is
a elite left wing, rich California guy who reps a
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lot of those people and that's his base.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
And you've had the major outflow of people from California,
which I think is one of the most important data
points you can have on whether a state is functioning
at a level of governance that attracts people versus repels them.
And I think that that number, more than anything else,
speaks to the challenges that California has. And to me, again,
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it's like people could say, well, the Communists when they
took over in the Soviet Union, they had a vast
military apparatus and they had all this. Well, yeah, of course,
because they took it all. Gavin Newsom didn't build Silicon
Valley and Hollywood as the epicenter of the global entertainment
industry and as the hub for innovation and probably the
(22:12):
greatest wealth creation machinery in the modern era, which is
Silicon Valley that just happened to be in the most
populous state with the best weather, that was built over
a period of decades, and that he has taken. This
is a lot like to build a Blasio phenomenon in
New York. Those you remember till the Blasio came in.
He's like, what are you talking about? City streets are clean,
(22:33):
crime is low, city's doing great, crime is low. We
kept saying, yeah, but you're messing it up. It's going
to the wrong direction. And by the time everybody realized
it was like, oh, look, I guess I screwed the
whole thing up. When you take over something that is
wealthy and functions well, that iceberg doesn't melt overnight. Gavin's
melting the iceberg though, or actually he's filling the iceberg
(22:53):
with illegals. But that's what's going on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Look, I was with a guy from Seattle last night
watching the The Home Run Derby, and I was having
the conversation to this on a certain extent, like San Francisco, Seattle,
and Portland, along with other West Coast cities are among
the most geographically beautiful in the entire countries we've talked
about on this program. And it's as if the luxury
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that they have for all of those beautiful attributes to
their cities, they can otherwise take everything else for granted
and they don't have to worry about trying to have
a functional city. And finally, it seems like, at least
in San Francisco, for instance, people are fed up. I
was reading the interview with the new San Francisco mayor,
(23:39):
who seems reasonable for San Francisco mayors. But to your point,
you know, the Bloomberg era was a great one following Giuliani,
and now you've got Mom Donnie saying, hey, Bill de
Blasio did a great job. We need more of this,
which is actually just eradicating all of the progress that
you had over a generation in New York City.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's troubling to see, but it is the reality before us.
So we have to call it out. But yeah, Gavin Newsom,
I think is the Democrat right now in the best
position to be the voice of that party. You have
this other tag team of AOC and Bernie Sanders, and
I know that the lunatic base of the Democrat Party
(24:23):
gets really riled up about those two. And I've said
they're gonna try to build AOC out. They're gonna try.
I don't know if that'll be successful. There's some things
that we can't necessarily foresee when the mood of the
country is what's going on between now and the twenty
twenty eight election. But Bernie is too old, and AOC,
I think really is too dumb. Gavin Newsom is somewhere
(24:45):
in the Democrat sweet spot of he can talk the game,
and he can dodge, and he can evade, and you know,
looks the part. Loves talking, loves the sound of his
own voice, loves seeing himself on the screen. So that
may be enough with this Democrat Party. We'll see. And
he does this thing too of you know, reaching across
(25:06):
to the other side. He never actually reaches across to
the other side. One of the big things that was
bizarre to me was was people said when he did
when he did that that other podcast, not Sean show,
It's Charlie's show. And he said the thing about trans
and how he no, he didn't agree that trans athletes
shouldn't compete against against transgender you know, against women. He
(25:29):
didn't say that. What he said is basically, I feel
your pain or this is.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He said, it's unfair. He said it's unfair, and then
he didn't follow up on it, but.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
He left it and left it open. It's unfair to everybody,
is the point. It's unfair to the trans athlete, it's
unfair to the female athlete, it's unfair to society. And
that's just a moral relativism that you're gonna see a
lot of, I think because the Democrats try to shore
up their support by pretending to be something other than
that which they are, which is always the game play, right, Yes,
(25:59):
Democrats to national elections have to pretend not to be Democrats.
Look at Joe Biden. If you if you were to
line up for this is a perfect example of this.
If you lined up what Joe Biden said and was
promising in the six months before election day in twenty twenty,
and I know is COVID everything else, but you know, healing,
bring the country together, steady, stable hand, all this stuff,
(26:22):
and then the truly left wing lunacy that Biden was
actually the biggest open border in our history. You know,
the trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending, the trans
policy stuff, the mask mandates, the or you know, the
vaccine mandates, and you look up Trump ran and said
I'm going to do these things, and he is doing
(26:44):
those things. Yes, Democrats have to lie to voters to
win enough voters to be in power, and then they
hope we just forget every four years, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Economy, border crime, It's as easy as EBC. That's exactly
what Trump has delivered so far in the first six month.
That's what we told you the campaign was, and that's
where his focus has been.
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Speaker 4 (28:32):
One thing, Clay, that I want to spend some time
on in this hour is the immigrations and customs enforcement situation.
No surprise I am sure to any of you, but
Alligator Alcatraz, as it has been named, not too far
from where I am. I think it would probably be
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I don't know, maybe a two and.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
A half hour drive from here base. Based on our
drive into the Everglades. It is a substantial effort. Yeah,
hard to get to.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
We had a very long, arduous drive out to the range,
in fact in the Everglades, but it was it was
a tough one. But yes, Alligator Alcatraz not too far
from where I currently am. Getting a lot of a
lot of news coverage from Democrats were looking to find
that thing. If you remember, Clay, under the first Trump administration,
(29:26):
it was kids in cages. Remember that that was the thing,
and that was AOC dressed all in white, crying at
the fence. We remember this, and then the Trump administration
was like, all right, fine, we're going to do this,
change the policy on the family separation issue. And the
left saw, oh my gosh, we can emotionally charge this
(29:48):
and get outcomes that we want. So that was a
thing that was going on. But they haven't found that
this time around. And as we see, they are demonizing
immigrations and customs enforcement officers and on the side of
the people that would like to dox them and threaten
them and threaten their families, I mean elected Democrats, because
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they want to make sure that everybody can know who
these guys are. They're not so concerned with like and
any other aspect of law enforcement. It seems just this.
They want to make sure, oh, yes that we know
what they're not. If they've done misconduct, No, we just
need to know who they are all the time. Very
strange Over on MSNBC, this is what they're talking about, Clay,
this has cut sixteen. Rachel Maddow still does stuff over there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
One day a week, one day a week, one day.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yes, well, that's such a nice sinecure she has, or
that's such a nice situation. It's like being a tenured
professor and making thirty million dollars a year to show
up and teach her once a week class, a class
that nobody should be paying attention to, a class that
nobody should want to see, but nonetheless they're paying her
that Here she is figuring out. She says, what to
(30:58):
call these Trump holding facilities for illegals? Play sixteen.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
In terms of this facility, you use the term internment camp.
And I saw your colleague w Washerman Schultz use that
same phrase. Obviously, that's very evocative language with history in
this country. That is difficult for a lot of people
talk about why you think that term is appropriate. I've
been struggling with that myself, just as a broadcaster, in
(31:23):
terms of how to talk about these things. I mean,
in technical terms, if you've got a facility that's holding
people indefinitely and there's no legal process to get in there,
and there's no legal process to get out, that is
traditionally called a concentration camp or an internment camp.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
An internment camp or a concentration camp. Claye, you think
that's gonna fly.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, And look, I think the challenge they have is
they're on the wrong side of this issue. And this
is why I believe in the marketplace of ideas, because
when Trump's came down the escalator in twenty fifteen and
start arguing for many of the things he's doing now,
most Americans disagreed with him. And partly that's a function
of how that was how his desires and his goals
(32:10):
were covered by the media. I don't think there's any
way to sugarcoat that. But over time, I believe Trump
has convinced the vast majority of Americans that we can't
have twenty million plus illegals. And the reason I use
twenty million as the number is because that's the number
Tom Holman told me a few months ago he believes
are illegally in the country. Now, I would imagine that
(32:31):
number is beginning to decline slowly. But what you're seeing
is this is the root cause of a huge amount
of the problems that we have in this country. Whether
it's and I know a lot of you have experienced this,
the number of illegal immigrant children that are being educated
in American schools, whether it is the number of illegal
(32:53):
immigrant criminals who are committing violent acts in this country,
whether it is the number of illegal immigrants who are
taking jobs that otherwise Americans would not take. You know,
what I've started to see vanish Buck is the argument of, oh,
these are jobs that Americans won't do. That is such
an arrogant argument to me, because the entire basis of
(33:16):
commerce is if you pay people enough to do a job,
eventually they will do it. And what was it the
meat packing facility they got rated in Nebraska, if I'm
not mistaken, they had to go back and rehire, and
they were flooded with applicants who were interested in those jobs.
(33:37):
And so I just look at it as, yes, it
may be sometimes easier, and certainly it's cheaper to go
with illegal immigrants as workers. But if you eliminate that
opportunity and force business to have to pay American citizens
to do the jobs, costs don't go up that much,
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and the end result is actually much more of a
positive in this country, by the way, Number one way,
I know in New York City, Mom Donnie's uh game
plan here too. He ran to a large extent on
things cost too much, in particular rent. What would rent
be in New York City if we eliminated a million
(34:18):
some audi legals from the rental markets? Basic economics would
suggest that the cost of living for rent would go
down for all American citizens in New York City, for instance.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I'll tell you thish the hotels. This is a perfect
microcosm to macrocosm example of this. Hotels in New York
City in the era of putting all these you know,
these migrants, these illegals in the New York City hotels
the highest prices you've ever seen in the history of
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New York.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And yes, it's crazy what it costs to stay in
a New York City hotel right now.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
You I mean some of you are gonna, you're gonna,
you know, choke on your crocket coffee when I tell
you this. But you can spend five hundred dollars a
night during the week off season in a New York
City hotel. That's you know nice. But I mean it's
not a lot of places I can get. I can get,
you know, Beach Front up in Jacksonville, like a like
(35:18):
a gorgeous resort for four or five hundred bucks a night.
In New York you can stay in like a midtown Marriott,
you know, like a kind of a standard you know,
business see kind of hotel. And if you want something nice,
oh boy.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Christmas season by our station. This is like December fourteenth
or whatever it was. I stayed in a hotel room
where I'm not kidding, I could touch the walls from
the bed that I was in both sides, right, I mean,
they barely could fit a bed in this room. I believe,
Producer Ali was the cheapest room that they could find
in the vicinity of our hotel. Wasn't that room? Like
(35:54):
eight hundred dollars alley? Eight hundred dollars a night one
night for a room that I could when I laid
on the bed, I could touch the wall on both sides.
And it's because one there is the immigrant angle. The
other angle, which almost no one talks about. They kill
their B and B in New York City, Yes, right,
(36:16):
So they had a ton of people out there who
were helping to pay their rent by renting out their places.
And by the way, I actually, oh really, I'm I'm
I'm pretty supportive of the of the airbnb restrictions in
New York City.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Just oh you are, I am?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, because oh, you don't want to live next door
to somebody who's renting your place out all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
People. It's and the people move into these buildings and
they're you know, there are rules, there are contracts, they
agree to things, and one of the things in a
lot of these buildings, and it's true in a lot
of cities, right if it's true, like your community association,
you agree to certain rules and the rules are for
the benefit of everybody if someone is using their their
you know, one bedroom apartments like an sro a single
(37:01):
romaka Vinci Hotel, which used to have a very bad
rap from the bad days of New York City when
they were like drug dens and stuff like that that
causes problems to the rest of the tenants on the floor.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I have a friend, I know somebody who in New
York his building went back and found all of the
postings for Airbnb and everything and suit him for all
of it and one so they take this stuff very seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I do think it's an inter I'm gonna sound like
Gavin Newsom now. I do think it's a real debate
that should be had because I totally understand the idea,
and evidently it's become a huge issue in many different
primary tourist locations around the country. No one wants to
live full time next to a house that is being
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rented out on AIRBA in the.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Case in the case of New York, I'm really actually
just pro a building or a community can say you
can't do this, and can drop the hammer if you
do it. I actually, I think in the City of
New York they've just decided that in less thirty day,
unless it's a thirty day rental, it's a regulation that
I'm a little more aligned, I think with how you
see it too. But I absolutely believe if you move
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into a building and you say and you sign things
that say that this is your primary home and you're
not renting it out, you can't rent it out because
it's a you know, you've agreed to a contract on
entry into that community. Look, we just Clay Well, I'm
now a homeowner for the first time. But some of
you're gonna laugh the stuff you got to do. Some
of you have lawns. I don't even know what that's like.
The homeowners association, they they lay down the law sometimes
(38:38):
on little things. You'd be surprised.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
It is, yes that in the homeowners associations in America.
There's many people out there listening right now that are
ready to pull their hair out over whatever disputes are
going on there. I do think though, whatever you think
about the Airbnb regulations in New York City and the
fact that the illegals have filled up a lot of
the hotel.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Room, it's about twenty percent. So you can just take
a just a rough figure, would be hotels are all
about twenty percent more expensive they would otherwise be.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think it gives you a real good examination of
basic market economics. Right, if you eliminated illegal immigrants from
the housing market in New York City and only people
who were legally in the United States or yes, look
on temporary visas, like all those things, right, the cost
for the average property I believe in New York City
would plummet tremendously. And I think it's true in many
(39:28):
different parts of America where housing costs have become prohibitive,
and it doesn't take a big city for that reality
to be I mean, it's basic economics. I think jd
Vance said this in the debate and the host was like, well,
what do you base that on. There's twenty million illegals here.
If we took the twenty million illegals out, that is
twenty million new properties, residences, apartments, places to live that
(39:54):
would be in the marketplace, which wouldn't have as much demand,
which would lower the overall cost.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I would think substantially across the board.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
That one of the it was one of the more
brilliant policies. And look, Governor Appitta, Texas does not, I think,
get as much credit as he should for this, or
people don't think about him enough in this regard taking
illegals and saying, you know what, let's send you right
to a sanctuary jurisdiction. They they say they want you.
We're just helping out because in the context of New York,
it's a big enough city that had enough of a
(40:24):
concentration of these illegals that you could really see the
economic impact. You could really see when they were telling,
you know, middle class neighborhoods of queens were shutting down
your local high school, you know, soccer fields or whatever
so we can house these illegals. You can really see
that thirty percent of emergency room visits were from these
(40:46):
migrants who were getting just all their healthcare and emergency rooms,
Like you can see this reality and realize, hold on
a second, if that's from one hundred thousand people in
New York City or one hundred and fifty thousand whatever.
The number ended up being what does twenty million do nationwide? Ah?
And you know I got it. Look there's a congresswoman
down here, Salazar. I saw her, and you know she
(41:07):
represents a heavily Latino South Florida constituency. And I love
my South Florida Venezuela and Cuban Americans. They're fantastic people.
But illegal's gotta go. And she's playing this whole game
of oh, but we need dignity for people, not amnesty,
but dignity. No, she means amnesty. Actually she should just
(41:27):
she should just say what she means. I think she's
actually my congresswoman. She should just say I want amnesty
for people who have been here for more than five
years who are illegal, Like, let's have a conversation like adults.
I would disagree with that, obviously, but don't give me
this thing of I'm fighting for dignity for people. What
does that mean? That's like the Gavin Newsom thing. Totally
(41:47):
Clay Clay hold on a second, Clay, I hear exactly
the perspective you're bringing to this critical discusson. It's like,
what does that mean, it means nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You're eight year old, Gavin, do you think eight year
old should be able to have their genitals chopped off?
I totally get the interest. I mean, just like, how
is this real? Vendsor's no, No, eight year old sh
not be able to have their genitals. This is an
easy question, a big a big no.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
But it's like, yeah, It's like you know, when you
ask these questions, it just reminds me of how smart
you are and how we can all be friends until
I'm president and then I'll destroy everything you've ever loved
or hell dear all right. Making our nation's economy grow
again like it was during President Trump's first term is
a huge priority. We're telling you every day the good
things going on here. We're not a gloom and doom show,
(42:35):
well catastrophe. Trump's got this economy. It's going well.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
But that's the overall economy for three hundred and fifty
million people, and we still have thirty seven trillion dollars
in debt. We still have major challenges, structural challenges that
are going to cause issues for your savings in the
bank and for the value of the dollar. The value
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(42:58):
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Speaker 7 (43:06):
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Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
It does, but it's actually a big summit going on
in Brazil. The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
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Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
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Can he give us some inside intel.
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Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how bricks nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
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Speaker 4 (45:23):
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Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yes for sure. All right, let me dive in here,
Buck All Star Game. You may not even really remember this,
because I think it was early in when we were
starting the show. Might have even been right before we
started the show. Major League Baseball pulled the All Star
Game out of Atlanta. We talked about this yesterday with
Governor Brian Kemp because they said that Stacy Abrams and
(47:43):
Joe Biden were right and that Jim Crow two point zero,
actually Jim Eagle was what it was described as was necessary,
and they were not allowing minorities to vote. And it's
been proven to be one hundred percent not true because
the number of voters grew in twenty twenty two, and
the number of voters grew in twenty twenty four, and
(48:03):
all the state of Georgia did was strengthen the overall elections.
So a reporter decided that she was going to ask
a question of the straight sports event that was going
on yesterday. The All Star Game preview and this is
absolutely bonkers, but I want to play this for all
(48:27):
of you. This was a mask wearing a mask wearing
reporter to this day, far left wing reporter covering sports,
someone named Jen ramos Iisen writes for a website called Defector,
and this person decided that they were going to take
(48:48):
over an All Star Game press conference with this question.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Buck get ready, there is a.
Speaker 10 (48:53):
Law on the books here in Atlanta that is a
voter suppression law that Joe Biden has called Jim Crow
of the twenty five century Dave in twenty twenty one
the MLB Network special, you said, it's about being relentless
with our voices and speaking up and this is not
an isolated moment and it needs to be something talked
about on an ongoing basis and being relentless with it.
(49:15):
What happened to being relentless with our voices? And why
are we in Atlanta when this law is still on
the books, And it is a dangerous situation to be
a journalist in Atlanta because Atlanta has attained the most journalists.
Speaker 11 (49:26):
By ISA respect and appreciate the way you feel about it.
And I would assume that there was a reason or
some conversation that was had by the MLB in the
state that all parties thought that this would be a
wonderful host city for the All Star Game, and I
think everybody is all very excited to be back in
the beautiful city of Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
So that was Pat McAfee trying to answer the question
that was the host of the event.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
He works at ESPN.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Can you believe that is an All Star press conference
book All Star Game for Major League Baseball? And this
crazy left winger says, how are we here when Ice
is arresting journalists and how in the world can you
play a game here when basically this Jim Crow law
which has not which has been proven to be a lie,
(50:13):
It is not decreased voting. Actually voting has increased substantially.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I have blown your mind several times about sports media
and how left wing they are. Can you believe that
was the second question at the Major League Baseball All
Star Game event yesterday?
Speaker 4 (50:30):
Uh? Okay, So I'm just confused a little bit. Where
was this person? What publication was she from?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
We do something?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, OutKick has a story because they dove in to
figure out like who is this person. That person is
a writer for a website called Defector. She showed up,
which I guess does some sports. I don't know how
they got credentialed candidly, but I guess they do some sport.
And that person has a wore a mask. So this
(51:05):
is not Some people out there are saying, hey, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
One of them.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Major League Baseball should have to issue a public apology
to State of Georgia, to the City of Atlanta, brace
fans for pulling the game out under false pretenses. Right,
they were wrong, and they've never acknowledged it. But that's
not this. This is Hey, this was the right decision.
Why are you guys back here? And oh, by the way,
how can you even come here when journalists are being
(51:29):
arrested by ice? Well, imagine if you imagine if you
banned Atlanta from holding sporting events and then open yourself
up to the fact that Atlanta's is as a city,
I believe it's about fifty percent it's a majority black city.
So you're actually harming black people here when you don't
have big events in the city.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
So the theory among the left or among some of these
this journalist or whatever, this must be an idea that's
out there is let's punish a great American city that
is also majority black, and but we will punish the
city because it is the state of Georgia is racist.
(52:11):
That's that's where that's where we are. We're gonna we're
gonna hurt Atlanta, which is a great city, which is
a majority black city. We're gonna hurt Atlanta because you
want to show that we disagree with the law in
the state of Georgia. Like, I don't even know how
that holds together. I mean, put aside that the whole
thing is absurd and that actually there's been greater black
voter turnout than ever before, and there is no voter
(52:33):
suppression law in Georgia, and that's all a lie, and
the statistics show about it. But this is, you know, Clay,
some people just want to be mad about things. And
I guess this is This journalist had a mask on.
Did you tell me that too.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, she had a mask on.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
And Ali Defector is an employee owned sports and culture
website brought to you by the former staffers of dead Spin.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Oh okay, commun evil communists. She's an evil communist communists.
I know it used to work there, right, that was,
but well back in the day. For this is taking
people back into the history of the Internet. Back in
like eight oh nine when I was there, dead Spin
was just kind of a bro culture website, like, hey,
let's have fun. Let's kind of laugh about sports. Their
(53:17):
trajectory from sports are fun. Let's laugh about them and
like them more.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
To now this defector site, which is a spin off
of dead Spin too, We're going to send an employee
in a mask because she's worried about COVID. I guess
to grill Major League Baseball about. I mean, there are
so many people whose brains have been broken that this
could be allowed to have occurred. Is Actually it's a
(53:43):
fascinating story to kind of look at the way they
took over the culture of sport through sports media members
who are far more left wing than the average fan,
and allowed those sports media members to terrorize so many
people from speaking out that we really got to the
point where dudes are winning women's championships. I don't think
it's coincidental that they tried to take over the culture
(54:04):
and they're still trying.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
I mean, look, just to be clear, I also could
tell stories here. Do you know that the Huffington Post,
because the media landscape was very different. You were saying
dead Spin was different when you were there, right, you
know that huff Post Live used to invite me on
It doesn't surprise me live as a conservative. It happened
a couple of times because they thought they were like,
(54:26):
they're like, well you're you may be a conservative, but
you're smart. That was always the backhanded thing they would
say to me, like the different hosts that would have
me on, And I was like, well a lot of
us are smart. I think we're smarter than you guys are.
But anyway, put that aside. Huff Post Live, do you
remember the site Mike mic Mike dot com. I probably, yeah,
I do, vegue, I do vaguely. I do vaguely remember
(54:47):
that site. They they brought me in because they wanted
alternate voices and they talked to me about writing a
column for them. This is like, again, this would have
been when you were were were Dead's when you were
twenty eleven or something or twenty ten or how far back?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Oh even you? I mean the site launched. I think
I was there in like eight oh okay, I was
very early, still in my twenties.
Speaker 4 (55:06):
So I'm saying when I when I started doing this stuff,
which was twenty eleven, even I was like a HuffPost
wanted to talk to me, Mike dot Com. I remember
they asked me for my thoughts on police violence, like
what would you run on police funds? And there this
was the early It was the early days of Ferguson.
So maybe this was like twenty twelve or twenty eleven,
I can't remember now. And I was like, you guys,
(55:27):
I remember being there. I never ended up writing anything
for them. I remember just thinking. I was like, you
guys are insane. Yeah, And they had all this venture
capital funding and everything else, like the people who work
here are crazy. But there was this game of they
would have alternate voices and things. The problem is when
you let and this is my real takeaway for all
of you're like, why are you telling us this media history?
No one needs to know. When you let any leftist
(55:48):
into an entity, as I always say, it is like
in nature an invasive species, they will they will not
just multiply, they will multiply and intentionally block out those
who are not leftists.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
So the problem with the European House sparrow. Fun fact
for all of you is that the European house sparrow
not only is very hearty as a species, but also
will destroy the eggs and the nests of other birds
so that it will outcompete them in the area. If
you let a leftist into your media organization, or you
(56:23):
let enough leftist get a toe hold, they will take
it over. This happened at CNN. They will take it
over and make it completely insane, totally correct. And this
is something I've been thinking about a lot, because, to
your point, the culture used to not be like this,
and I'm hoping that we're going to come out of
it and return. But I think the only way we
(56:43):
can do that is by ridiculing stories like these and
making it so clear where look, if this person wants
to share her opinion, then write her opinion. But what
she's trying to do is launder her opinion through more
faith as people and hold their feet to the fire
(57:03):
and make them attached.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
To her opinion.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Right my opinion, I'm speaking as if I was this
crazy chick. My opinion is that Atlanta should never be
able to host the All Star Game because they passed
this voting bill and also because journalists aren't safe because
the ICE is going to arrest them. Okay, write that opinion,
don't ask people who are famous to endorse your opinion,
(57:26):
and turn does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (57:28):
It's agenda journalism, and I think people see it now.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
But this has been building for a decade or more
and the goal I think is quite clear. It's to
try to take over big parts of culture and mold
them in your direction, as opposed to just let people
be normal. So I wanted to play that for you
because I heard it even I was like, oh, the
second question at the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
But you also ask yourself, what is what does this
person even want? So that this is what I meant
by you're going to punish Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, No, The tangible result of what her position would
be would be that a majority black city is not
able to host a big sporting events.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
Huge sure to take take money out of the hands
of yes, black business owners in a great American city
because you're a misanthrope or a malcontent who just doesn't
want to ever be celebrating anything. You're at a scants conference,
for heaven's sake.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
And is wrong like whatever like you could at least
make that argument before the twenty twenty two election and
twenty twenty four election happened. Now we know that all
that bill did was strengthen the law and that they
have actually been proven wrong. The data doesn't lie.
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
We are Rolling Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
I am in Atlanta, Georgia, where there was a pretty
phenomenal home run derby last night. For those of you
that may have been paying attention, there were not a
lot of sports related activities on the program. Tonight is
the All Star Game. Buck And in order to get
(00:25):
into our Atlanta affiliate studio, which is right by the
Atlanta Braves Stadium, they have a huge red carpet for
all of the players to walk and I think I
was able to sneak in because otherwise I don't know
how you get into this building. So I had to
already begin my day engaging in covert activities to even
(00:47):
manage to make it into the studio today. But it
is an amazing fun scene in Atlanta as the All
Star Game gets closer, appreciate our affiliate down here hosting
me in the Atlanta studios. You are in Miami, and
one of the big questions that has I would say
(01:08):
consumed much of the first six months of the Trump
two point zero regime is what's going to happen with inflation?
And Trump barely got any attention at all. June we
had a surplus, that is, we brought in the federal
government did more money than we spent, which had not
happened in years to a large extent, that was occurring
(01:31):
because of the tariffs that Trump is bringing to bear. Well,
we got inflation related numbers that came out earlier this morning,
and yet again, despite the attempts of the media to
pretend otherwise, the data does not appear to reflect that
there is a massive impact of inflation. We've got Treasury
(01:52):
Secretary Scott bessent On, and I think this is an
interesting conversation to have. Was Trump right all long so
far about the tariffs and the fact that they would
not have a major inflationary impact so far that largely
appears to be true. Here is Scott Bessont cut one.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number.
I think it's the trend. And I think one thing
that Wall Street, a lot of economist market in general
got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to
call a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, Buck, So so far, we are balancing the budget
in June, which may be a little bit of a
calendar quirk, but it's still a very impressive marker. We
are on track for hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs,
and so far the overall cost of goods has not
substantially altered. Is it time to say, hey, maybe Trump
(02:56):
was right? We're also I think it's worth mentioning near
record all time highs in stock prices as we sit
here in mid July. We hope that you guys listen
to us and stayed pat The S and P five
hundred is near an all time record high, just a
little bit back off of it that was set recently.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Was Trump right?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Is it time to actually have that conversation about whether
the conventional wisdom was totally wrong about this?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
You can certainly say Trump wasn't as wrong as they
said he would be, and they spoke with certainty on
these things, the certainty of the consensus, the certainty of
economists in quote right, All economists know, Clay that tariffs
are going to be inflationary. All economists know that tariffs
(03:45):
are going to rise prices. Maybe we should ask those
economists what they really know, because that hasn't happened, and
to be clear, they said it would happen. It should
have happened if they were right right away, and that
is not what has occurred here. So once again we
have a situation where I think quite clearly Trump, just
like on trade with China, decided that he was going
(04:08):
to do something that was against not only the anti
Trump Democrat everything Trump does as bad so called consensus,
but even some in his own party, even some who
are truly Trump voters and supporters, were concerned about the
trajectory of this. And meanwhile it looks like it's the
(04:28):
negative has not been really apparent at all, and the
positive is also on the positive side of a ledger
bigger than was initially anticipated, with one hundred billion dollars
of revenue coming in on the tariffs. You've also got
right inflation two point seven percent in June, which is
(04:50):
in line with expectations. So staying right steady, And I
know that they're now looking for formerly Scott Bessen says
the Treasurer secretary. They're looking for a FED chair to
replace the current FED chair, which I think is long overdue.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Well, look, if you told me, hey, what is the
most bollocked, there's a fun word, the most flummexed.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Part.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's another fun word of our economy right now, I
would say, and I bet most of you would sign
off on this, it's mortgage rates. Because as a result
of Joe Biden's inflation in twenty twenty one, we went
from about two and a half or three percent mortgage
rates to around seven percent, and as a result, the
(05:37):
housing market's completely frozen in many respects. And as a
result of the housing market being frozen, lots of you
out there might be interested in moving, but because you
have such incredible mortgages, you're not selling. You're not moving.
That is the rate many of you out there would
be interested in buying. But the housing market is frozen,
(05:59):
and that's seven percent on some of these mortgages. You're
looking around and saying, I just want to rent. This
is another part where Trump is one hundred percent right.
Our interest rates are too high. They accelerated too rapidly
without hardly any parallels historically, because everything was wrong. Jerome
(06:19):
Powell completely with Remember he said inflation was transitory. They
didn't raise rates fast enough. Then they overly raised rates.
And right now, the cost of borrowing, particularly as it
pertains to the average home. But also if you're buying
a car, if you are paying credit card debt.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
It's all just.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Too high and we need I mean, honestly, I think
probably our interest rates are about two points too high,
and if they would come back by about two points,
I think you would see an unfreezing of the housing market,
which would accelerate I think economic recovery and growth in
a substantial way. To say nothing of business is feeling
more able to borrow money because the rate at which
(06:59):
you're having to pay it back is not so high.
So this all to me is interconnected. Because the reason
why Jerome Powell has said he has not cut rates
is he says the tariffs have a substantial inflationary impact.
We have not seen that so far. I would just say,
what has Jerome Powell done well such that we should
be trusting his and other Fed governor's opinions on this
(07:23):
visa VI Trump, because it seems to me Trump if
you want to criticize him, you can criticize him for
lots of things. The guy understands interest rates in real
estate better than maybe any president we have ever had.
And I do think that he's right about the fact
that our economy is not moving as rapidly as otherwise
would if we could get interest rates correct.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Look, the economy is something that, unfortunately, I think Trump
is almost a victim of his own success with this.
There's an expectation, based on the first time Trump was
in office, when he was still learning a lot more
on the job and figuring out who his team should be,
there was an expectation once again Trump would have a
strong economy because he understands business. He understands what will
(08:06):
get things going for all of us. Right at the
Democrats always focus on making it seem like there's some
class warfare agenda in the Trump economic push, but really
it and specifically in the big Beautiful Bill by the way,
they look at what does this mean for the average
American households disposable income, What does this mean for small
(08:26):
businesses that are still the economic engine of so much
hiring and so much of a GDP. So I think
that this is so far, so good with Trump. It's
looking really really strong, and it is a moment in
time where he's not getting all the credit that I
think he should, or that certainly he would if he
(08:48):
were a Democrat, but that he should even for a
Republican because there have been some other things on the
agenda lately in the news. And also I think that
Trump is expected to do well on the economy right
the so part of this that's I think a bit
of a break is a break from the consensus or
the expectation is when he does the things that they
(09:08):
say on his own side are going to backfire and
it actually looks like it's working. That's the part of
this that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, And if you want to argue on the flip side,
they're going to continue to say, oh, the inflation pressure
is coming, the inflation pressure is coming, And so that
is what Jerome Powell basically is arguing.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
With that in mind.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
The prognostication markets, the prediction markets have it fairly likely
that in September we're going to get a rate cut.
So that would suggest to me that the Fed is
not as worried now about inflation somehow skyrocketing based on
the tariff decisions. And it remains to be seen what
exactly is going to happen with the tariffs we've got
(09:52):
now an August first date. There was a panic on
Liberation Day back in early April. Stock market is sold
off substantially. I think Trump is emboldened by the recovery
of the stock market prices to hold the line when
it comes to trying to put in place good trade
deals for the country. And I don't think he's pressured
(10:14):
by the trajectory of the stock market like he might
have been in April. Now stock prices go up and down.
They adjust constantly based on existing economic data, so there's
still much to be seen. But I think it's very hard.
We said before the election, Buck this was a three
prong election. Economy, border crime. Just focused on those three economy.
(10:38):
Stock prices, all time record high, inflation back down. Your
paychecks are growing faster than the average inflation rate is,
which means you have more money in your pocket. That's
a very good thing. Border shut down, deportation process underway.
We've never had a more secure border and crime. I
think this is one story that you and I and
(10:59):
a lot of people in media have not focused on enough.
And I don't want to jinx things because summer is
typically when the overall rates of violent crime increase. Kids
are out of school, people have more free time, people
are out in the streets more. They stay out later
because the sun's up longer. We are potentially heading in
twenty twenty five for the lowest national murder rate that
(11:21):
we have seen in a generation. Put cops back on
the streets, let them do their jobs. The number of
murders is collapsing all over the country because we now
have police that are able to do their jobs, because
we have ICE agents supporting violent predators and criminals. And
it's not getting very much attention, and I don't want
to jinx it, but as we enter summer, we're staring
(11:43):
down potentially a generational decline and violent crime in this country.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yes, it turns out enforcing the law creates more rule
of law. And also on the deportation issue, you're starting
to see the ramp up is real. This has been
promised all long by the Trump administration, and I think
Clay part of the panic that we've seen and the
really ineptitude of Democrats to get their footing going with
(12:10):
any kind of messaging here, is that the more they
show people these immigration raids, the more clear it becomes
that a big majority of the American people, including majorities
of forget about political party, Black Americans, Latino Americans, Latino
Americans majority want illegals supported. So they keep doing this
(12:31):
old playbook of if we just show and we use
the usual phrases about oh, they're just hard working, and no, actually,
these are people that aren't supposed to be in the country,
and the American people have decided that that's not going
to be okay anymore. This is real and Democrats haven't
figured out how they're supposed to message this. The Abrago
Garcia think was a massive own goal for them. I
think if we all remember that one the guy got
(12:52):
sent to El Savador MS thirteen guy alleged uh and
sure enough, Clay, Yeah, they're they're running low on areas
to hit the president.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
On no doubt good And by the way, the number
of Americans that as American citizens getting jobs, a lot
of those Biden jobs, when you go back and look
at them, were actually illegal immigrant jobs. The number of
American jobs that have skyrocketed under Trump is also substantial.
I think you're starting to see that impact. So all
of that economy in good place, border in good place,
(13:24):
crime in good place. That was the three prongs that
Trump ran on as his twenty twenty four platform, and
so far he's delivering there in a big way. We'll
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Speaker 1 (14:39):
I go ahead and write it down.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
What are we sitting at here July fifteenth to twenty
twenty five. So this is very much in pencil because
it'll be what about two and a half year's ish
until the Democrats will have to have a nominee for
twenty twenty eight, and that presumes that it ends by
super which will be some time in March of twenty
(15:02):
twenty eight. But Buck's theory on Gavin Newsom, I don't
think is a bad one at all. That he's just
going to power through that he thinks he's the guy,
the next man up.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now there will be other people who run. JB.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Josh Shapiro, and we will
see whether any of them are able to give Newsom
a real run. But it feels like Newsom is already
running because he's doing all these conservative in quotation mark podcasts.
I will point out producer Ali, we invited Gavin Newsom
(15:37):
on this program a long time ago, right, and he
has never been willing to come on.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, So we have had an open invite back when
I was when I was sort of enamored of Gavin
Newsom and I just wanted to have a nice chardonay
with him. We invited him on the program. He has
not come on, but he has been doing reach out
to non additional Democrat audiences. And our friend Sean Ryan,
who lives just up the road from me in Franklin, Tennessee,
(16:06):
actually I met him through buck several years ago, right
as he was starting his show. He had Gavin Newsom on,
and he asked Gavin Newsom a question, Hey, what do
you think about really young kids? I think he said
eight year old kids having ginger transition surgeries. Now, this
is something that I think ninety nine point nine percent
(16:29):
of parents think is crazy. But it has become Democrat
orthodoxy that if your young child tells you, hey, I
feel like I'm a girl and you're actually a boy,
or I feel like a boy and you're actually a girl,
that you should treat it as an honest opinion and
not as just Hey, young kids believe in lots of
(16:50):
things that aren't true and they have very fertile imaginations. No,
you have to treat it as a very serious thing
that even might require medical treatment. And Sean Ryan asked
Gavin Newsome about this that, and I want you to
listen to his totally disjointed Gobbly Goook response because it's
gonna basically be his entire twenty eight campaign. Is all
(17:14):
the things that I support and my party supports. Well,
I'm just going to talk and try to confuse you. Listen,
what about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I mean, look, I now that I have a nine
year old just became nine. Come on, man, I get it.
So those are legit. You know, it's interesting just the
issue of age.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I haven't.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
I'm as I and as someone that's been so focused
on equality broadly LGBT rights, particularly gay marriage. The trans
issue for me is also novel. It's over the last
few years. I'm trying to understand as much as anyone
else thing, trying to understand all of that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
What you know? That was like the hell? I mean,
all that stuff, I get it. He gets it. Buck evil?
Is it evil? Keanu reeves you this is what they're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
He's gonna say he gets that you guys might not
agree with it, and it makes it sound like he
agrees with you.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
But listen to that whole answer.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He just kind of jumps from one hot button topic
to another without having to take any sides.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
When when we were talking about this clip right before
we came on, I said, Clay, he reminds me of
the used car salesman who really wants you to like him,
is like, hey, handsome, I'm like, wow, guy who knows
his way around cars, like you must be you must
be like fantastic when you're tracking this thing, right, like,
(18:50):
oh man, love a guy who really you know, sorry,
you got what I'm saying, but won't tell you the
price of the car. Like the one thing you want
to know, how much do you want for this car?
You can't find out how much the car is. But
he just wants to keep on talking to you and
getting his hooks into you, so he's going to close
this deal. He didn't answer the question at all. And
this is what whenever Gavin Newsom is about to be courted,
(19:11):
he's like.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Let's just talk about how amazing state of California is.
Love my state, Love my states.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Like we asked him what you had for breakfast, buddy, Like,
no one cares about how much you love the state
of California. But his whole thing is going to be
he runs with you know, he runs on charm and
hides the substance or has no substance, but same thing.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
He tries to acknowledge that there is a legitimate reason
that people would care about this, and then dodges all
actual positions that he's going to take. And again, California
is a broken in many ways left wing kingdom, and
(19:58):
in order to run to represent the entire nation, he's
going to have to turn his back on a lot
of the crazy of California. And the way he's going
to do it is just by trying to acknowledge that
he understands the concerns, and he's going to pivot and
say things like, we're all Americans, right. This is a conversation.
I guarantee you this is where it's headed. This is
a real conversation we should have. What do you mean
(20:19):
conversation we should have? Do eight year olds deserve to
have their penises chopped off? Is not really a conversation
to me. I mean, it's a pretty easy answer question.
And he's going to try to dodge all this. We
saw it earlier when he went on the Charlie Kirk
podcast and he tried to say that being male and
(20:40):
competing in women's sports was completely unfair, and then what
did he do. State of California is fighting right now
the Trump administration for trying to say, hey, this shouldn't
be allowed to occur. And there is a dude who
won track championships in women's high school in California. So
he talks out of both sides of his mouth, which
(21:01):
is what traditional politicians do. To me, it feels a
bit like Bill Clinton buck, except he doesn't have like
the actual background of Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was an
Arkansas guy who kind of understood things. Gavin Newsom is
a elite left wing, rich California guy who reps a
(21:22):
lot of those people and that's his base.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
And you've had the major outflow of people from California,
which I think is one of the most important data
points you can have on whether a state is functioning
at a level of governance that attracts people versus repels them.
And I think that that number, more than anything else,
speaks to the challenges that California has. And to me, again,
(21:48):
it's like people could say, well, the Communists when they
took over in the Soviet Union, they had a vast
military apparatus and they had all this. Well, yeah, of course,
because they took it all. Gavin Newsom didn't build Silicon
Valley and Hollywood as the epicenter of the global entertainment
industry and as the hub for innovation and probably the
(22:12):
greatest wealth creation machinery in the modern era, which is
Silicon Valley that just happened to be in the most
populous state with the best weather, that was built over
a period of decades, and that he has taken. This
is a lot like to build a Blasio phenomenon in
New York. Those you remember till the Blasio came in.
He's like, what are you talking about? City streets are clean,
(22:33):
crime is low, city's doing great, crime is low. We
kept saying, yeah, but you're messing it up. It's going
to the wrong direction. And by the time everybody realized
it was like, oh, look, I guess I screwed the
whole thing up. When you take over something that is
wealthy and functions well, that iceberg doesn't melt overnight. Gavin's
melting the iceberg though, or actually he's filling the iceberg
(22:53):
with illegals. But that's what's going on. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Look, I was with a guy from Seattle last night
watching the The Home Run Derby, and I was having
the conversation to this on a certain extent, like San Francisco, Seattle,
and Portland, along with other West Coast cities are among
the most geographically beautiful in the entire countries we've talked
about on this program. And it's as if the luxury
(23:17):
that they have for all of those beautiful attributes to
their cities, they can otherwise take everything else for granted
and they don't have to worry about trying to have
a functional city. And finally, it seems like, at least
in San Francisco, for instance, people are fed up. I
was reading the interview with the new San Francisco mayor,
(23:39):
who seems reasonable for San Francisco mayors. But to your point,
you know, the Bloomberg era was a great one following Giuliani,
and now you've got Mom Donnie saying, hey, Bill de
Blasio did a great job. We need more of this,
which is actually just eradicating all of the progress that
you had over a generation in New York City.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's troubling to see, but it is the reality before us.
So we have to call it out. But yeah, Gavin Newsom,
I think is the Democrat right now in the best
position to be the voice of that party. You have
this other tag team of AOC and Bernie Sanders, and
I know that the lunatic base of the Democrat Party
(24:23):
gets really riled up about those two. And I've said
they're gonna try to build AOC out. They're gonna try.
I don't know if that'll be successful. There's some things
that we can't necessarily foresee when the mood of the
country is what's going on between now and the twenty
twenty eight election. But Bernie is too old, and AOC,
I think really is too dumb. Gavin Newsom is somewhere
(24:45):
in the Democrat sweet spot of he can talk the game,
and he can dodge, and he can evade, and you know,
looks the part. Loves talking, loves the sound of his
own voice, loves seeing himself on the screen. So that
may be enough with this Democrat Party. We'll see. And
he does this thing too of you know, reaching across
(25:06):
to the other side. He never actually reaches across to
the other side. One of the big things that was
bizarre to me was was people said when he did
when he did that that other podcast, not Sean show,
It's Charlie's show. And he said the thing about trans
and how he no, he didn't agree that trans athletes
shouldn't compete against against transgender you know, against women. He
(25:29):
didn't say that. What he said is basically, I feel
your pain or this is.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
He said, it's unfair. He said it's unfair, and then
he didn't follow up on it, but.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
He left it and left it open. It's unfair to everybody,
is the point. It's unfair to the trans athlete, it's
unfair to the female athlete, it's unfair to society. And
that's just a moral relativism that you're gonna see a
lot of, I think because the Democrats try to shore
up their support by pretending to be something other than
that which they are, which is always the game play, right, Yes,
(25:59):
Democrats to national elections have to pretend not to be Democrats.
Look at Joe Biden. If you if you were to
line up for this is a perfect example of this.
If you lined up what Joe Biden said and was
promising in the six months before election day in twenty twenty,
and I know is COVID everything else, but you know, healing,
bring the country together, steady, stable hand, all this stuff,
(26:22):
and then the truly left wing lunacy that Biden was
actually the biggest open border in our history. You know,
the trillions of dollars of completely unnecessary spending, the trans
policy stuff, the mask mandates, the or you know, the
vaccine mandates, and you look up Trump ran and said
I'm going to do these things, and he is doing
(26:44):
those things. Yes, Democrats have to lie to voters to
win enough voters to be in power, and then they
hope we just forget every four years, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Economy, border crime, It's as easy as EBC. That's exactly
what Trump has delivered so far in the first six month.
That's what we told you the campaign was, and that's
where his focus has been.
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Speaker 4 (28:32):
One thing, Clay, that I want to spend some time
on in this hour is the immigrations and customs enforcement situation.
No surprise I am sure to any of you, but
Alligator Alcatraz, as it has been named, not too far
from where I am. I think it would probably be
(28:55):
I don't know, maybe a two and.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
A half hour drive from here base. Based on our
drive into the Everglades. It is a substantial effort. Yeah,
hard to get to.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
We had a very long, arduous drive out to the range,
in fact in the Everglades, but it was it was
a tough one. But yes, Alligator Alcatraz not too far
from where I currently am. Getting a lot of a
lot of news coverage from Democrats were looking to find
that thing. If you remember, Clay, under the first Trump administration,
(29:26):
it was kids in cages. Remember that that was the thing,
and that was AOC dressed all in white, crying at
the fence. We remember this, and then the Trump administration
was like, all right, fine, we're going to do this,
change the policy on the family separation issue. And the
left saw, oh my gosh, we can emotionally charge this
(29:48):
and get outcomes that we want. So that was a
thing that was going on. But they haven't found that
this time around. And as we see, they are demonizing
immigrations and customs enforcement officers and on the side of
the people that would like to dox them and threaten
them and threaten their families, I mean elected Democrats, because
(30:09):
they want to make sure that everybody can know who
these guys are. They're not so concerned with like and
any other aspect of law enforcement. It seems just this.
They want to make sure, oh, yes that we know
what they're not. If they've done misconduct, No, we just
need to know who they are all the time. Very
strange Over on MSNBC, this is what they're talking about, Clay,
this has cut sixteen. Rachel Maddow still does stuff over there.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
One day a week, one day a week, one day.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yes, well, that's such a nice sinecure she has, or
that's such a nice situation. It's like being a tenured
professor and making thirty million dollars a year to show
up and teach her once a week class, a class
that nobody should be paying attention to, a class that
nobody should want to see, but nonetheless they're paying her
that Here she is figuring out. She says, what to
(30:58):
call these Trump holding facilities for illegals? Play sixteen.
Speaker 8 (31:03):
In terms of this facility, you use the term internment camp.
And I saw your colleague w Washerman Schultz use that
same phrase. Obviously, that's very evocative language with history in
this country. That is difficult for a lot of people
talk about why you think that term is appropriate. I've
been struggling with that myself, just as a broadcaster, in
(31:23):
terms of how to talk about these things. I mean,
in technical terms, if you've got a facility that's holding
people indefinitely and there's no legal process to get in there,
and there's no legal process to get out, that is
traditionally called a concentration camp or an internment camp.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
An internment camp or a concentration camp. Claye, you think
that's gonna fly.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, And look, I think the challenge they have is
they're on the wrong side of this issue. And this
is why I believe in the marketplace of ideas, because
when Trump's came down the escalator in twenty fifteen and
start arguing for many of the things he's doing now,
most Americans disagreed with him. And partly that's a function
of how that was how his desires and his goals
(32:10):
were covered by the media. I don't think there's any
way to sugarcoat that. But over time, I believe Trump
has convinced the vast majority of Americans that we can't
have twenty million plus illegals. And the reason I use
twenty million as the number is because that's the number
Tom Holman told me a few months ago he believes
are illegally in the country. Now, I would imagine that
(32:31):
number is beginning to decline slowly. But what you're seeing
is this is the root cause of a huge amount
of the problems that we have in this country. Whether
it's and I know a lot of you have experienced this,
the number of illegal immigrant children that are being educated
in American schools, whether it is the number of illegal
(32:53):
immigrant criminals who are committing violent acts in this country,
whether it is the number of illegal immigrants who are
taking jobs that otherwise Americans would not take. You know,
what I've started to see vanish Buck is the argument of, oh,
these are jobs that Americans won't do. That is such
an arrogant argument to me, because the entire basis of
(33:16):
commerce is if you pay people enough to do a job,
eventually they will do it. And what was it the
meat packing facility they got rated in Nebraska, if I'm
not mistaken, they had to go back and rehire, and
they were flooded with applicants who were interested in those jobs.
(33:37):
And so I just look at it as, yes, it
may be sometimes easier, and certainly it's cheaper to go
with illegal immigrants as workers. But if you eliminate that
opportunity and force business to have to pay American citizens
to do the jobs, costs don't go up that much,
(33:57):
and the end result is actually much more of a
positive in this country, by the way, Number one way,
I know in New York City, Mom Donnie's uh game
plan here too. He ran to a large extent on
things cost too much, in particular rent. What would rent
be in New York City if we eliminated a million
(34:18):
some audi legals from the rental markets? Basic economics would
suggest that the cost of living for rent would go
down for all American citizens in New York City, for instance.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I'll tell you thish the hotels. This is a perfect
microcosm to macrocosm example of this. Hotels in New York
City in the era of putting all these you know,
these migrants, these illegals in the New York City hotels
the highest prices you've ever seen in the history of
(34:51):
New York.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
And yes, it's crazy what it costs to stay in
a New York City hotel right now.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
You I mean some of you are gonna, you're gonna,
you know, choke on your crocket coffee when I tell
you this. But you can spend five hundred dollars a
night during the week off season in a New York
City hotel. That's you know nice. But I mean it's
not a lot of places I can get. I can get,
you know, Beach Front up in Jacksonville, like a like
(35:18):
a gorgeous resort for four or five hundred bucks a night.
In New York you can stay in like a midtown Marriott,
you know, like a kind of a standard you know,
business see kind of hotel. And if you want something nice,
oh boy.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Christmas season by our station. This is like December fourteenth
or whatever it was. I stayed in a hotel room
where I'm not kidding, I could touch the walls from
the bed that I was in both sides, right, I mean,
they barely could fit a bed in this room. I believe,
Producer Ali was the cheapest room that they could find
in the vicinity of our hotel. Wasn't that room? Like
(35:54):
eight hundred dollars alley? Eight hundred dollars a night one
night for a room that I could when I laid
on the bed, I could touch the wall on both sides.
And it's because one there is the immigrant angle. The
other angle, which almost no one talks about. They kill
their B and B in New York City, Yes, right,
(36:16):
So they had a ton of people out there who
were helping to pay their rent by renting out their places.
And by the way, I actually, oh really, I'm I'm
I'm pretty supportive of the of the airbnb restrictions in
New York City.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Just oh you are, I am?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, because oh, you don't want to live next door
to somebody who's renting your place out all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
People. It's and the people move into these buildings and
they're you know, there are rules, there are contracts, they
agree to things, and one of the things in a
lot of these buildings, and it's true in a lot
of cities, right if it's true, like your community association,
you agree to certain rules and the rules are for
the benefit of everybody if someone is using their their
you know, one bedroom apartments like an sro a single
(37:01):
romaka Vinci Hotel, which used to have a very bad
rap from the bad days of New York City when
they were like drug dens and stuff like that that
causes problems to the rest of the tenants on the floor.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I have a friend, I know somebody who in New
York his building went back and found all of the
postings for Airbnb and everything and suit him for all
of it and one so they take this stuff very seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I do think it's an inter I'm gonna sound like
Gavin Newsom now. I do think it's a real debate
that should be had because I totally understand the idea,
and evidently it's become a huge issue in many different
primary tourist locations around the country. No one wants to
live full time next to a house that is being
(37:50):
rented out on AIRBA in the.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Case in the case of New York, I'm really actually
just pro a building or a community can say you
can't do this, and can drop the hammer if you
do it. I actually, I think in the City of
New York they've just decided that in less thirty day,
unless it's a thirty day rental, it's a regulation that
I'm a little more aligned, I think with how you
see it too. But I absolutely believe if you move
(38:13):
into a building and you say and you sign things
that say that this is your primary home and you're
not renting it out, you can't rent it out because
it's a you know, you've agreed to a contract on
entry into that community. Look, we just Clay Well, I'm
now a homeowner for the first time. But some of
you're gonna laugh the stuff you got to do. Some
of you have lawns. I don't even know what that's like.
The homeowners association, they they lay down the law sometimes
(38:38):
on little things. You'd be surprised.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
It is, yes that in the homeowners associations in America.
There's many people out there listening right now that are
ready to pull their hair out over whatever disputes are
going on there. I do think though, whatever you think
about the Airbnb regulations in New York City and the
fact that the illegals have filled up a lot of
the hotel.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Room, it's about twenty percent. So you can just take
a just a rough figure, would be hotels are all
about twenty percent more expensive they would otherwise be.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think it gives you a real good examination of
basic market economics. Right, if you eliminated illegal immigrants from
the housing market in New York City and only people
who were legally in the United States or yes, look
on temporary visas, like all those things, right, the cost
for the average property I believe in New York City
would plummet tremendously. And I think it's true in many
(39:28):
different parts of America where housing costs have become prohibitive,
and it doesn't take a big city for that reality
to be I mean, it's basic economics. I think jd
Vance said this in the debate and the host was like, well,
what do you base that on. There's twenty million illegals here.
If we took the twenty million illegals out, that is
twenty million new properties, residences, apartments, places to live that
(39:54):
would be in the marketplace, which wouldn't have as much demand,
which would lower the overall cost.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
I would think substantially across the board.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
That one of the it was one of the more
brilliant policies. And look, Governor Appitta, Texas does not, I think,
get as much credit as he should for this, or
people don't think about him enough in this regard taking
illegals and saying, you know what, let's send you right
to a sanctuary jurisdiction. They they say they want you.
We're just helping out because in the context of New York,
it's a big enough city that had enough of a
(40:24):
concentration of these illegals that you could really see the
economic impact. You could really see when they were telling,
you know, middle class neighborhoods of queens were shutting down
your local high school, you know, soccer fields or whatever
so we can house these illegals. You can really see
that thirty percent of emergency room visits were from these
(40:46):
migrants who were getting just all their healthcare and emergency rooms,
Like you can see this reality and realize, hold on
a second, if that's from one hundred thousand people in
New York City or one hundred and fifty thousand whatever.
The number ended up being what does twenty million do nationwide? Ah?
And you know I got it. Look there's a congresswoman
down here, Salazar. I saw her, and you know she
(41:07):
represents a heavily Latino South Florida constituency. And I love
my South Florida Venezuela and Cuban Americans. They're fantastic people.
But illegal's gotta go. And she's playing this whole game
of oh, but we need dignity for people, not amnesty,
but dignity. No, she means amnesty. Actually she should just
(41:27):
she should just say what she means. I think she's
actually my congresswoman. She should just say I want amnesty
for people who have been here for more than five
years who are illegal, Like, let's have a conversation like adults.
I would disagree with that, obviously, but don't give me
this thing of I'm fighting for dignity for people. What
does that mean? That's like the Gavin Newsom thing. Totally
(41:47):
Clay Clay hold on a second, Clay, I hear exactly
the perspective you're bringing to this critical discusson. It's like,
what does that mean, it means nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
You're eight year old, Gavin, do you think eight year
old should be able to have their genitals chopped off?
I totally get the interest. I mean, just like, how
is this real? Vendsor's no, No, eight year old sh
not be able to have their genitals. This is an
easy question, a big a big no.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
But it's like, yeah, It's like you know, when you
ask these questions, it just reminds me of how smart
you are and how we can all be friends until
I'm president and then I'll destroy everything you've ever loved
or hell dear all right. Making our nation's economy grow
again like it was during President Trump's first term is
a huge priority. We're telling you every day the good
things going on here. We're not a gloom and doom show,
(42:35):
well catastrophe. Trump's got this economy. It's going well.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
But that's the overall economy for three hundred and fifty
million people, and we still have thirty seven trillion dollars
in debt. We still have major challenges, structural challenges that
are going to cause issues for your savings in the
bank and for the value of the dollar. The value
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(42:58):
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How can you take action to protect your savings?
Speaker 7 (43:06):
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Clay, have you heard of the Rio Reset?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Sounds like a trendy new workout, Buck.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
It does, but it's actually a big summit going on
in Brazil. The formal name is BRICKS, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India,
China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens
when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging
economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.
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Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.
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Can he give us some inside intel.
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Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact, a
major theme at the summit is how bricks nations aim
to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.
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Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip
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Yes for sure. All right, let me dive in here,
Buck All Star Game. You may not even really remember this,
because I think it was early in when we were
starting the show. Might have even been right before we
started the show. Major League Baseball pulled the All Star
Game out of Atlanta. We talked about this yesterday with
Governor Brian Kemp because they said that Stacy Abrams and
(47:43):
Joe Biden were right and that Jim Crow two point zero,
actually Jim Eagle was what it was described as was necessary,
and they were not allowing minorities to vote. And it's
been proven to be one hundred percent not true because
the number of voters grew in twenty twenty two, and
the number of voters grew in twenty twenty four, and
(48:03):
all the state of Georgia did was strengthen the overall elections.
So a reporter decided that she was going to ask
a question of the straight sports event that was going
on yesterday. The All Star Game preview and this is
absolutely bonkers, but I want to play this for all
(48:27):
of you. This was a mask wearing a mask wearing
reporter to this day, far left wing reporter covering sports,
someone named Jen ramos Iisen writes for a website called Defector,
and this person decided that they were going to take
(48:48):
over an All Star Game press conference with this question.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Buck get ready, there is a.
Speaker 10 (48:53):
Law on the books here in Atlanta that is a
voter suppression law that Joe Biden has called Jim Crow
of the twenty five century Dave in twenty twenty one
the MLB Network special, you said, it's about being relentless
with our voices and speaking up and this is not
an isolated moment and it needs to be something talked
about on an ongoing basis and being relentless with it.
(49:15):
What happened to being relentless with our voices? And why
are we in Atlanta when this law is still on
the books, And it is a dangerous situation to be
a journalist in Atlanta because Atlanta has attained the most journalists.
Speaker 11 (49:26):
By ISA respect and appreciate the way you feel about it.
And I would assume that there was a reason or
some conversation that was had by the MLB in the
state that all parties thought that this would be a
wonderful host city for the All Star Game, and I
think everybody is all very excited to be back in
the beautiful city of Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
All right.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
So that was Pat McAfee trying to answer the question
that was the host of the event.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
He works at ESPN.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Can you believe that is an All Star press conference
book All Star Game for Major League Baseball? And this
crazy left winger says, how are we here when Ice
is arresting journalists and how in the world can you
play a game here when basically this Jim Crow law
which has not which has been proven to be a lie,
(50:13):
It is not decreased voting. Actually voting has increased substantially.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I know.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I have blown your mind several times about sports media
and how left wing they are. Can you believe that
was the second question at the Major League Baseball All
Star Game event yesterday?
Speaker 4 (50:30):
Uh? Okay, So I'm just confused a little bit. Where
was this person? What publication was she from?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
We do something?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, OutKick has a story because they dove in to
figure out like who is this person. That person is
a writer for a website called Defector. She showed up,
which I guess does some sports. I don't know how
they got credentialed candidly, but I guess they do some sport.
And that person has a wore a mask. So this
(51:05):
is not Some people out there are saying, hey, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
One of them.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Major League Baseball should have to issue a public apology
to State of Georgia, to the City of Atlanta, brace
fans for pulling the game out under false pretenses. Right,
they were wrong, and they've never acknowledged it. But that's
not this. This is Hey, this was the right decision.
Why are you guys back here? And oh, by the way,
how can you even come here when journalists are being
(51:29):
arrested by ice? Well, imagine if you imagine if you
banned Atlanta from holding sporting events and then open yourself
up to the fact that Atlanta's is as a city,
I believe it's about fifty percent it's a majority black city.
So you're actually harming black people here when you don't
have big events in the city.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
So the theory among the left or among some of these
this journalist or whatever, this must be an idea that's
out there is let's punish a great American city that
is also majority black, and but we will punish the
city because it is the state of Georgia is racist.
(52:11):
That's that's where that's where we are. We're gonna we're
gonna hurt Atlanta, which is a great city, which is
a majority black city. We're gonna hurt Atlanta because you
want to show that we disagree with the law in
the state of Georgia. Like, I don't even know how
that holds together. I mean, put aside that the whole
thing is absurd and that actually there's been greater black
voter turnout than ever before, and there is no voter
(52:33):
suppression law in Georgia, and that's all a lie, and
the statistics show about it. But this is, you know, Clay,
some people just want to be mad about things. And
I guess this is This journalist had a mask on.
Did you tell me that too.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, she had a mask on.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
And Ali Defector is an employee owned sports and culture
website brought to you by the former staffers of dead Spin.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Oh okay, commun evil communists. She's an evil communist communists.
I know it used to work there, right, that was,
but well back in the day. For this is taking
people back into the history of the Internet. Back in
like eight oh nine when I was there, dead Spin
was just kind of a bro culture website, like, hey,
let's have fun. Let's kind of laugh about sports. Their
(53:17):
trajectory from sports are fun. Let's laugh about them and
like them more.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
To now this defector site, which is a spin off
of dead Spin too, We're going to send an employee
in a mask because she's worried about COVID. I guess
to grill Major League Baseball about. I mean, there are
so many people whose brains have been broken that this
could be allowed to have occurred. Is Actually it's a
(53:43):
fascinating story to kind of look at the way they
took over the culture of sport through sports media members
who are far more left wing than the average fan,
and allowed those sports media members to terrorize so many
people from speaking out that we really got to the
point where dudes are winning women's championships. I don't think
it's coincidental that they tried to take over the culture
(54:04):
and they're still trying.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
I mean, look, just to be clear, I also could
tell stories here. Do you know that the Huffington Post,
because the media landscape was very different. You were saying
dead Spin was different when you were there, right, you
know that huff Post Live used to invite me on
It doesn't surprise me live as a conservative. It happened
a couple of times because they thought they were like,
(54:26):
they're like, well you're you may be a conservative, but
you're smart. That was always the backhanded thing they would
say to me, like the different hosts that would have
me on, And I was like, well a lot of
us are smart. I think we're smarter than you guys are.
But anyway, put that aside. Huff Post Live, do you
remember the site Mike mic Mike dot com. I probably, yeah,
I do, vegue, I do vaguely. I do vaguely remember
(54:47):
that site. They they brought me in because they wanted
alternate voices and they talked to me about writing a
column for them. This is like, again, this would have
been when you were were were Dead's when you were
twenty eleven or something or twenty ten or how far back?
Speaker 2 (54:59):
Oh even you? I mean the site launched. I think
I was there in like eight oh okay, I was
very early, still in my twenties.
Speaker 4 (55:06):
So I'm saying when I when I started doing this stuff,
which was twenty eleven, even I was like a HuffPost
wanted to talk to me, Mike dot Com. I remember
they asked me for my thoughts on police violence, like
what would you run on police funds? And there this
was the early It was the early days of Ferguson.
So maybe this was like twenty twelve or twenty eleven,
I can't remember now. And I was like, you guys,
(55:27):
I remember being there. I never ended up writing anything
for them. I remember just thinking. I was like, you
guys are insane. Yeah, And they had all this venture
capital funding and everything else, like the people who work
here are crazy. But there was this game of they
would have alternate voices and things. The problem is when
you let and this is my real takeaway for all
of you're like, why are you telling us this media history?
No one needs to know. When you let any leftist
(55:48):
into an entity, as I always say, it is like
in nature an invasive species, they will they will not
just multiply, they will multiply and intentionally block out those
who are not leftists.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
So the problem with the European House sparrow. Fun fact
for all of you is that the European house sparrow
not only is very hearty as a species, but also
will destroy the eggs and the nests of other birds
so that it will outcompete them in the area. If
you let a leftist into your media organization, or you
(56:23):
let enough leftist get a toe hold, they will take
it over. This happened at CNN. They will take it
over and make it completely insane, totally correct. And this
is something I've been thinking about a lot, because, to
your point, the culture used to not be like this,
and I'm hoping that we're going to come out of
it and return. But I think the only way we
(56:43):
can do that is by ridiculing stories like these and
making it so clear where look, if this person wants
to share her opinion, then write her opinion. But what
she's trying to do is launder her opinion through more
faith as people and hold their feet to the fire
(57:03):
and make them attached.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
To her opinion.
Speaker 2 (57:06):
Right my opinion, I'm speaking as if I was this
crazy chick. My opinion is that Atlanta should never be
able to host the All Star Game because they passed
this voting bill and also because journalists aren't safe because
the ICE is going to arrest them. Okay, write that opinion,
don't ask people who are famous to endorse your opinion,
(57:26):
and turn does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (57:28):
It's agenda journalism, and I think people see it now.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
But this has been building for a decade or more
and the goal I think is quite clear. It's to
try to take over big parts of culture and mold
them in your direction, as opposed to just let people
be normal. So I wanted to play that for you
because I heard it even I was like, oh, the
second question at the Major League Baseball All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (57:49):
But you also ask yourself, what is what does this
person even want? So that this is what I meant
by you're going to punish Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, No, The tangible result of what her position would
be would be that a majority black city is not
able to host a big sporting events.
Speaker 4 (58:05):
Huge sure to take take money out of the hands
of yes, black business owners in a great American city
because you're a misanthrope or a malcontent who just doesn't
want to ever be celebrating anything. You're at a scants conference,
for heaven's sake.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
And is wrong like whatever like you could at least
make that argument before the twenty twenty two election and
twenty twenty four election happened. Now we know that all
that bill did was strengthen the law and that they
have actually been proven wrong. The data doesn't lie.
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