July 22, 2025 • 59 mins
Colbert is Not a Martyr
President Trump’s live Oval Office meeting alongside the President of the Philippines, Bongbong Marcos, where Trump addresses military cooperation, missile defense, and the Russia collusion hoax, which he calls the “biggest scandal in history.” Trump also accuses former President Obama of treason and reiterates claims that the 2020 election was stolen, asserting he won in a “landslide.”
The hosts then pivot to Hunter Biden’s media presence, speculating on his potential political ambitions following a widely discussed interview. They debate whether Hunter sees himself as a political savior for the Biden family, drawing parallels to past political comebacks.
A major segment focuses on the collapse of late-night television, with sharp criticism of Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, and Jimmy Fallon. The hosts highlight Colbert’s show reportedly losing $40 million annually, contrasting it with Greg Gutfeld’s success on Fox News. They argue that ideological bias, not profitability, drives decisions in mainstream media, likening late-night TV to the WNBA as a subsidized, failing enterprise.
Cameras on Cops
Revisiting the Breonna Taylor case, criticizing the DOJ’s sentencing of a police officer to nearly three years in prison despite his acquittal on state charges. The hosts frame this as a politically motivated response to BLM-era pressure.
Cop in Breonna Taylor Case Calls In
Exclusive interview with retired Louisville police officer Sergeant John Mattingly, who gives a firsthand account of the controversial Breonna Taylor raid. Mattingly revisits the events that led to the shooting, his injury during the operation, and the recent 33-month prison sentence handed down to fellow officer Brett Hankison—a sentence Mattingly and the hosts argue is a miscarriage of justice.
Mattingly challenges the mainstream narrative surrounding the Breonna Taylor case, disputing claims that the raid was conducted at the wrong address or under a no-knock warrant. He asserts that officers knocked and announced themselves, and that Taylor’s former boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, fired first, striking Mattingly in the leg. The conversation highlights the legal inconsistencies, including alleged misconduct by the Biden Department of Justice, and contrasts it with the more restrained approach of the Trump DOJ, which had recommended only a one-day sentence.
The hosts and Mattingly call for President Trump to issue a pardon or commutation for Hankison, emphasizing the unprecedented nature of his conviction—being the only officer in U.S. history sentenced for returning fire without hitting anyone. They argue this sets a dangerous precedent for law enforcement nationwide.
The hour also explores Breonna Taylor’s alleged ties to drug trafficking, including her relationship with Jamarcus Glover, and disputes her portrayal as an innocent EMT. Mattingly outlines evidence linking Taylor to Glover’s criminal enterprise, including financial records, vehicle registrations, and jailhouse communications.
AK Sen. Dan Sullivan
Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska discusses the transformative impact of the “Big Beautiful Bill” under the Trump administration. Sullivan contrasts the pro-energy, pro-development policies of Trump with the restrictive executive actions under Biden, emphasizing how the bill unlocks Alaska’s vast natural resources, mandates regular lease sales, and includes permitting reform to accelerate energy projects. He also critiques Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for obstructing confirmations and legislation, and addresses the confusion and manipulation surrounding ranked-choice voting in Alaska. Senator Sullivan invites Clay and Buck to broadcast from Alaska, showcasing the state’s energy potential and natural beauty.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I appreciate you being with us. A lot to dive into.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right now, as we're talking to you, President Trump is
speaking to the nation. He is in the Oval Office,
He's doing a sit down with the President of the Philippines,
and they're covering a whole range of topics, and that
is in real time as I'm speaking to you. Trump
right now laying into the Russia hopes as the biggest
(00:30):
scandal in history. And we'll bring you some of the
key soundbites from this meeting. Also discussion from the president
from our president. Right there's the Philippine president, there's President
Trump sitting side by side, but of more cooperation, military
cooperation with the Philippines, and Trump saying we're gonna have
more missiles than we've ever had before. Slow missiles, fast missiles,
(00:53):
big missiles, small missiles. So we've got that to dive into,
and we'll bring you some of it. Hunter Biden, the
interview he did is actually getting a lot of attention.
And now Clay is not the only person that I
have heard who thinks that he might see a role
for himself in politics. Still, I just want to say
(01:15):
I still think this is crazy, but there's a little
voice in my head that says, oh my gosh, there's
a small chance that Clay actually may be on to
something with this one, and I will be the crazy
one for having missed it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But we shall see.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I want him to run, let me be clear, and
I don't think he has any chance to be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The only thing that adds up here to me is
Hunter thinks he is the savior of his family and
that there is actually a demand for him in a
way that every other Democrat basically is like, no, no, no, no,
we just want to pretend to Biden era never happened.
I think Hunter thinks he should run. I think that's
what Hunter has got in his head.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That would be It would be the craziest thing in
American politics in terms of somebody wanting to or deciding
to run again since Anthony Wiener, post conviction, oh yeah,
post criminal sex crime, decided that he was going to
run for the mayor of New York City and then
that faded out rather quickly. So the Hunter Biden thing,
(02:18):
it is interesting to see Hunter describing the differences between
crack cocaine and other forms. He is like a chemist.
He actually has some real domain knowledge, not about say,
international energy agreements where he was being paid by Barisma
as a consultant. But you know, if the cartels were
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paying this guy, I would have understood that because he
knows a lot about drugs. It's pretty impressive when he
breaks it down. We'll bring you some of those of
those clips. The whole Hunter thing, though, is I am surprised.
I thought the bidens were I thought the bidens were done.
But you know one thing, Clay, that I think we
now all have to be ready for an American politics
is that for people, for people who have been in
(03:00):
the big game or near the big game in some capacity,
they'll never accept that they're done.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Look at Joe Biden. For people who have just even gotten.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
A taste of what it is to be truly in power,
they think that there's always a lane, always a role
for them. And I think that Hunter Biden, yes he's
a recovering addict and all that, he's just an example
an example of that. We've also got just a few
other odds and ends to throw in here before we
get into some of the Trump stuff, Play Speaker Mike
(03:30):
Johnson is gonna shut down the House until September. They're
not gonna have a vote on releasing the Epstein files
d o J. I believe that the number two at DOJ,
or somebody close to the number two is going to
possibly have a conversation with Gielen Maxwell, the co conspirator,
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along with Jeffrey Epstein, who is still alive in custody,
So that story is getting some attention. And then Trump
all on the late night TV removal of Stephen Colbert.
Trump wrote this, Clay, the word is and it's a
strong word at that. Jimmy Kimmel is next to go
(04:12):
in the untalented Late night sweepstakes, and shortly thereafter Fallon
will be gone. These are people with no talent, paid
millions of dollars for destroying what used to be great television.
Really good to see them go. I hope I played
a major part in it. Trump not just defeating them,
but salting the earth under their feet.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Clay, I still can't believe that they've decided to make
a martyr out of Stephen Colbert, who's making somewhere between
fifteen or twenty million dollars a year, whose show is
losing forty million dollars a year, and somehow that he
is a martyr because he was fired. I mean, look,
if this show was losing any money at all, I
(04:52):
would expect that we would get fired. I just would
any show that I have ever done in the history
of my life.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We'd be we'd we'd be, we'd be gentle, let go.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Let go.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I have never been on any show to my knowledge,
that has has lost money.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I've been at media companies that were losing money and
everybody starts getting fired.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So that's not I have That's what I have been.
I have been fired.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
That's one reason I started out kick and yes, Buck
might prefer the euphemism left go but let go, but
let go implies that you had an option to continue
to hold on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I didn't have an option to continue.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I've pulled the the Indiana Jones running in front of
the Boulder a few times and just grabbed the hat.
But it was like if I didn't leave, the doors
were closing and they were padlocking them.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So I've had that a few times.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So look, I just anyone who works in media at
some point in time, if your product doesn't make money,
they find somebody who they think can make money. I
can't even imagine having the arrogance to be doing a
show that is losing forty million dollars a year, forty
(06:05):
million dollars a year, and then to be arguing, Oh,
the only reason I'm being fired is because I've been
too critical of President Trump. No, you're being fired because
that forty million dollars that the company is losing on
your show could be allocated to hire a lot more
people who could do a lot more profitable work.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm just I've always been I'm not a big late
night guy in general. And the more you learn about
how important sleep is now I'm being really boring. The
more you realize going to bed earlier is doing yourself
a huge favor. Whenever you can, whenever you can. Just saying,
but Jay Leno, whom I always liked more than Letterman,
although I was a casual watcher at best, I mean
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I saw it, but I was like, I would watch
it kind of by accident if I was up at night.
I can't say, but I really never would anyway. Leno
producer Ali pulled this Yesterdy because I thought this is true.
Leno took a substantial pay cut, Yeah, to keep staff,
to keep his team around.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Nothing like that, trust me.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If Colbert's agent had something like that to throw out
there at this point, now is when these stories would
all come out. Colbert making fifteen million a year, let's
call a fifteen million clay while the while the show
is losing forty mini. He would know the show's losing
forty million dollars. It's obscene, obscene greed. And to let
people behind the curtains. I don't know how many people
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publicly talked about this. I took a pay cut. You
took a pay cut during COVID so that we could
we have contracts, so that we could avoid having to
let go people who worked on I did a sports
talk show at the time you did a political show.
We took substantially less. And by the way, so did
a lot of our bosses. So did a lot of
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people out there. When times got tough during COVID and
you didn't know what in the world was going to happen,
the first thing people do. So I think people understand
this in some ways, but when people start to feel
like a recession is coming. One of the first things
that companies do is spend less money on advertising, and
so it hits what we do faster than a lot
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of other places. So when COVID happened, which was this
cataclysm where suddenly everybody's like, hey, we're gonna show there's
only essential, non essential businesses everything else. We took huge
pay cuts to maintain in some way the show's ability
to continue to employ staff. And so you don't get
to losing forty million dollars, It doesn't happen rapidly. You
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have to work your way up to losing forty million dollars.
So I would think that pathway towards losing that amount
of money is been rapid and has been gradual.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In other words, there's lots of time where you could
have reversed the direction that the ship was headed, so
to speak. Also, why did nobody say, hey, we're spending
one hundred million dollars on this show and we're losing
I I they spend this is just my guess. I
bet they spend twenty million total if that on Gutfeld.
(09:07):
So Gutfeld, which is also in a New York City studio,
which also has a live audience. Some of you watch
that on Fox News. I don't know why they didn't
just say, Hey, why don't we just rent a much
smaller studio space, have a much smaller live audience, dial
back the overall expenditures in a way that would allow
this program to at least break even. I bet that
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they fought back against that idea because it would be
seen as a as a lack of endorsement of the show.
But I think that this is likely true. I think
all late night shows are going to be gone. I
think Trump is going to ultimately triumph in a way
that is pretty unbelievable over his harshest critics everywhere at MSNBC, CNN,
late night television. I think they're all going to lose
(09:51):
their jobs and Trump's going to be more powerful than ever.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, well, CNN has been destroyed by Trump. The brand
will never recover. The late night hosts I think have
been are in process of all being defenestrated from their
privileged purchase.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Look at you.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I'm impressed he does what he does, and I
think that Trump has done a tremendous service for the
American people just by exposing how many of these media outlets.
How many of these so called news organizations or even
so called comedians or comedic enterprises are really just a
(10:31):
smug propaganda and there's no reason for these things. They're
not being supported by the marketplace. They're really you know,
let's just say it, Clay late night TV sort of
turned into the w NBA of the television world. Subsidized ye, yeah,
subsidized by other actually profitable ventures within the company.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And for what why?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, I think that the analogy. I made that analogy
yesterday one of our OutKick shows. The WNBA lost forty
million dollars last year. It's the same amount as Stephen
Colbert and the protest. The players came out and pay
us what you owes T shirts. Well, if you got
actually paid what you were owed, as we discussed yesterday,
you would actually given a pix of teams.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, you'd be you sent home money, yeah you You
would actually no longer have a job if you were
paid what you were owed, because you were owed nothing
if you work for the WNBA. But nonetheless, it is
effectively like a charity. It's a it's a it's a
DEI women's sports charity is what the WNBA as a
pure business venture operates as Now, maybe that's changing now, uh,
(11:39):
you know, because of some of the visibility that it gets.
But on the late night TV host these late night comedians,
this is a major cultural shift. And it also proves
once again that what the right has been saying for
over twenty years, which is they these are there's left
wing dominance in these media outlets. It's not about the
profit motive. You know, they used to get away with saying, well,
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this is what the audience wants. It's not about the
profit mode of a lot of these places. Whether it's
Hollywood studios you're talking about depends on the movie, or
you're talking certainly about the news organizations. They are ideologically
driven first on many of these decisions in many of
these ways. And you see that with late night comedy.
And I remember what a successful weapon the Daily Show
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was against the Bush administration. And I did watch the
Daily Show pretty frequently when I was in college, and
the Daily Show gave people who didn't want to really
engage with the facts the ability to think that everybody
who disagreed with them was an idiot. Well that may
feel like fun at the time, but it's actually not
good for discourse. So I think that this is all
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to the good, and we'll talk more about about some
of this and also what Trump has had to say
here about the referral and Russia collusion. Clay, I have
found an answer, and it's one of the things that
I offered up here as what would what would they
actually charge them with?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
We can address that. Oh good, So I went deep
diving into the criminal files.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, but it's what I said, which is we're going
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Speaker 2 (14:52):
All right, welcome back in So President Trump was just
talking in the Oval Office with well with the whole nation.
But he was sitting next to the president of the Philippines,
and he covered a whole range of topics. Right, this
is this is the nature of a Trump press conference.
It's never the message. Staying on message for Trump is
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whatever the heck he feels like in the moment. Talking
about that is that is on message. When you're dealing
with Trump, their message is whatever he wants. There's no script,
there's no roadway ahead. And he covered a lot of things,
and the media obviously was pushing him a bunch of
different directions.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But let's do let's first take a look.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Here at the focus.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
This comes after the Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbert
came out with more information, released new information showing that
the CIA was well aware that Russia didn't steal the
election for Trump. Clay shared out this morning on x
I saw it like two minutes of just people across
all the Democrat news sites and channels saying that Russia
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hacked the election. And I always thought that was such
a weasel word to use. What does that mean, hacked
the election? That what they wanted. What they're saying is
Russia involved itself in some way, but they want people
to believe that Russia actually hacked the voting machines, which
they did not do, and there was never any evidence
or proof of that whatsoever. But seventy percent of Democrats
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going two years into Trump's first term, you know that
clearly seventy percent of Democrats believe that Russia actually got
into the voting machines to help Trump beat Hilly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
They're so smart with the verbs that they used often,
because hacked the election can be a broad term of like, oh, well,
they hacked a few emails. Hacked the election is clearly
a phrase that is intended to tell you they changed
the outcome of the election, right, because otherwise, like who cares?
First of all, we try to hack almost every election
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that takes place in any country in the world that
we care about. This whole idea that we have clean hands,
right how in the world. I mean, you could speak
to this probably, but I always love this, like the
idea that America just sits back and we have absolutely
no involvement in elections around the world. We probably, to
be fair, are the number one actor involved in elections
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around the world. So this idea that we are clean
hands here, but yes, of course, our adversaries attempt to
get involved in many different things that we do in
the country hacked. The election is clearly intended to send
a message that Trump would have lost but for Russia.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And that Russia actually actively hacked. Right, it's a little bit.
You could say someone's biohacking if they, you know, have
like a snack that's dates in maple syrup or something.
If you turn on Instagram, everyone's by the way, ninety
percent of these people, especially if I mean if they're guys,
ninety percent of these people who are telling you how
to improve your health and whatever, and I'm somebody who,
(17:51):
as you know, has gone on a fitness journey for
a year now and lost about forty pounds, ninety percent
of them are just taking steroids.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And lying to you about it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Just you know, this is you don't have to or
some form of enhancement, whether it's you know, elevated levels
of TRT or whatever. So just whenever you see some
guy with a six pack, he's like, this is what
I eat in a day, and you're like, that guy
looks like Leonidas from the movie three hundred. It's not
because he had a couple of banana slices in the
morning or whatever. Or it's not because he had his
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you know, yogurt and yogurt parfait before dinner. It's because
he's taking stuff. He's not telling you about it. I'd
say nine out of ten of those guys are doing that.
Put that aside for a second. That's just a free
that's just a little free at free insight for any
of you out there who are on Instagram or TikTok
these days, what would it look like if they were Oh,
before we get to the charge, is President Trump spoke
about this here? He is crooked Democrats, Barack Hussein Obama.
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He loves to throw in the Hussein part. This has
cut twenty nine play it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right
there with him, and so was sleeping Joe Biden, and
so with the rest of them, Cami Clapper, the whole group.
And they tried to rig an election, and they got caught.
And then they did rig the election in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And then because I knew I.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Won that election by a lot, I did it a
third time and I won in a landslide. Every swing
state won the popular vote, but I won that all
the same way in twenty twenty. And look at the
damage that was cast.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But he's not moving on at all from the twenty
twenty election was stolen. In fact, he's saying that there
was a effectively a treasonous conspiracy to undo the twenty
sixteen election, and he wants accountability for this. This is
what the current president of the United States is saying.
And he has been one thing about him on this stuff.
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He has been consistent on how poed he is on
this for a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Let's cut to the chase, because I think a lot
of people out there are going to say, Okay, we've
heard this for years. I think the evidence is out
there that supports that this did occur. There's no doubt
that they manufactured and in some way exaggerated the amount
that Russia was involved in the impact that they had,
even in the verb choices that they used in the
(20:05):
testimony that they put forward. So here's the question that
I have you mentioned what the charges could be. They
would have to go through a DC grand jury. DC,
as we know, votes Democrat ninety five percent. Here is
my statement to you, and if I'm wrong, we'll grab
this and we will play it and I will admit
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that I am completely wrong. And you guys can tap
dance on my idiocy. There's no way that a DC
grand jury is indicting Barack Obama for anything. It will
not happen. So you not only well, also.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Wouldn't it be when he was when he was president.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
We've already established, right, I mean, the charges against Obama
would would deal with when you know, Hillary Trump. We're
talking twenty sixteen election now, and we've already well established
under Trump that you actually can't be charged for condo
in office.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Presidentigher than that's a great point. As we said, the
Supreme Court has given ample protection of presidents that benefited
Trump and would benefit Obama here. But let's pretend that
they are charging him for non presidential actions. Like let's
pretend that they find out that Obama after he left
the presidency, this occurred in I guess it would be
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like January, late January twenty seventeen, February twenty seventeen. I
do not believe leave a side statute of limitations too.
I do not believe that there is a jury in Washington,
d C. A grand jury that would indict Barack Obama
for virtually any crime. So you can say hey, we
(21:45):
want to put out more information. You can say, hey,
we're investigating all this stuff. Obama basically lives in d C. Right,
He's never left, so you would have to find a
venue where you could charge him. I don't see how
he could be charged for a crime outside of d C.
And I don't think that the grand jury that sits
typically in d C would indict Barack Obama for anything.
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Now Hillary's in New York and she's never been president.
So if you were trying to get an indictment against Hillary,
you would either have to do it in New York
or in DC. That seems highly unlikely too. Why do
I bring this up? I believe and I understand the
frustration over all the lies that were told over what
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I think could be accurately termed to be criminal behavior.
I don't think there's gonna be any consequences for it.
I'm just telling you I'm wrong. I will I will
own it. But legally, we didn't coordinate this beforehand. Just
so you know, this is independently. We both came to this,
and I just don't I don't see it happening unless
they get very creative within the legal process. I would
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just note Clay that the way though that the other
side will get very creative with these with charges.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's actually on display with a case that hasn't gotten
a lot of attention in conservative media, a lot more
focus on Epstein Russia collusion other things. But remember the
Brianna Taylor case, which was a huge part of the
BLM narrative and the the the police officer, a police
officer rather who was this just happened earlier today was
(23:25):
sentenced to thirty three months in prison for violating the
civil rights of Brianna Taylor. Now you may be did
Trump DOJ the conviction had already happened. The Trump DOJ
had said to the judge, Hey, look this guy, this
is preposterous. Basically, this guy should get one day in jail.
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It's basically time served, like let him out. And the
judge in the case decided to give him a full
three years. Basically, you know, just shy of three years
in federal prison.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Didn't even shoot her.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He shot in response to a guy shooting at the cops.
They said, police open up. I mean, I remember this
Breonna Taylor case. They thought the guy, you know, and
there's all this story and all this evidence. You look
at it that there were packages being dropped off at
the house. So this wasn't like they just went into
the wrong house. They thought that she was The police
believed that Breonna Taylor, her premises was being used for
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drug dealer was that was what they got their warrant on.
So they knocked at the door and the guy starts
shooting through the door at the cops. Yep, who did
he really who did he really think he was shooting
at everybody? He just thought, Oh, it was drug dealers
that had come to rob him. Really did the drug
dealers say?
Speaker 5 (24:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Police open up?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But the guy who just got three almost three years
in federal prison, the Trump DJ wanted one. They wouldn't
even brought the case. But I believe the conviction had
already happened.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
This guy.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think state charges, by the way, Clay also were
not brought up against this guy. He shot through the
window in response to the gunfire at him. That's what
this cop did. So he returned fire and shot through
a window to try to hit the guy who was shooting,
and did hit one of his fellow police officers. And
they charged him with violating Brenna Taylor's civil rights.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah anything, he didn't shoot her, Just to be clear,
he didn't even hit her. So by shooting through the
window in response to somebody else who's trying to kill
you and your fellow officers the Biden era, DOJ and
this judge now think you should go to prison for years.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's outrageous. I agree.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And they had multiple cases, they had mistrials, They had
a variety of different stories. They came out for people
out there who maybe just don't remember what happened on
that day, is that the Louisville police officer said they
announced themselves before entering the home, were immediately met with gunfire.
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According to the statement, Walker discharged his firearm first injuring
an officer. Walker claimed, this is the individual inside of
the home that he thought someone was entering the residence illegally.
Uh nine cal said, somebody kicked in the door shot
my girlfriend. So all of this came out of it,
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and look the upshot of it is it happened on
March thirteenth, twenty twenty, right in the midst of the
BLM era beginning.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, so they fed these they fed these cops to
the angry mob.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Is what happened.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We all see exactly what happened here. This was just,
oh my gosh, we're having a racial reckoning.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
What can we do? The cops were under fire and
one of them was actually shot, and they returned fire.
It was an accident that Breonna Taylor was hit. They
were not trying to shoot her. But if somebody I
spent a little fair amount of time with guns, a
fair amount of time shooting. I tell you this, Clay,
somebody is shooting at me. I am shooting back, a
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pretty good shot, but under fire.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Nobody knows how I've never been shot at, and nobody
knows how good they are at dealing with that until
they have to your adrenaline dump goes through, you know,
puts your adrenale through the roof, and to charge though
with you know, he was acquitted on state charges, so
he's acquitted, this officer, and then they bring federal charges
of deprivation of rights, which is what they always do
when they want to get these cops, which is just
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this kind of catch all for like, you know, the
racial reckoning we need after George Floyd or whatever, he
is a mistrial on that one, and they bring it again.
They bring this again after a mistrial and an acquittal,
so desperate, you know why, because they worried that.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You know, they're in the in the low income areas.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Of Louisville, there would be whole neighborhoods or you know,
whole stores burned down and blocks burned down if they
didn't at least put one cop away for this.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
That's just the truth.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I think your point yesterday about the the amount of
camera is on police, basically we haven't had a BLM
incident since we have had cameras on police. Doesn't mean
that police are not going to do things wrong. Everybody
in their profession can screw up, but it's pretty evident
when a cop acts well outside the bounds of police authority,
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and most people don't defend them.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But most of the time.
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You never know what you may get on the program.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
From minutes a minute, we were just talking about the
decision made to give one of the police officers in Louisville, Kentucky,
a thirty three month prison sentence, despite the fact that
the Trump Department of Justice had suggested just one day,
and we were walking through the Breonna Taylor information and
giving people more about that because it's been several years
(30:37):
and some of you may well have forgotten about what
took place there. Well, listening in Louisville, Kentucky was one
of the officers involved in that raid. His name is
John Mattingly, and he is with us now, and so
I want to bring him in and I'll just say,
first of all, thanks for listening and broadly, just tell
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us what happened on that day and what you think
about the thirty three month sentence that your former police
officer colleague got in that case. And obviously thanks for listening.
What can you tell us about that day?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, Clayen Travis, I appreciate you guys having me on
and being willing to get it from you know, firsthand source,
somebody who's kind of been through the fire and all
this thing. First off, let me start with the decision.
I think the judge when it was the Biden DOJ
did everything they asked for in the case. In the trial,
there were so many things that were unprofessional by that DJ.
(31:38):
I've never set on a side and felt like it
was a defense attorney over there with underhand tactics lying.
She did not allow cell phones to get entered into
evidence or the ones that were in evidence. She refused
to let him at trial at the end, when the
jurors kept coming back going, man, we got a hung jury.
We got a hung jury. And then they asked the
question should we assume Brianna is dead or alive? She said,
(32:02):
assumed she was dead or alive, which totally negates the
legal process and the judge's influence on the jury, because
in order for a statute such as the civil rights violation,
the person has to be alive, and there were just
so many things, man, And I think the appeal is
so strong and going to go very quickly once the
process starts, if this DJ even allows it, because I
(32:24):
was sitting in the courtroom and I saw two faces
to the DJ, the one under Biden and the one
under Trump, and the one under Trump was so rational
and logical, like any human being would look at a
process and go, this is the way it should be.
This makes sense when you look at the facts of
the case, and anything outside of this scope is unreasonable.
(32:45):
And so I'm so happy that Trump's back in. I
think if once this word gets out on how this
DJ is actually treating police officers now not as some
kind of wicked racist, you know, hateful people, as opposed
to people who are risking their lives simply trying to
get centerel off the street, trying to get murderers off
the street, because every time an action was taken. I've
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talked to thousands of cops across the country. When I
speak and over and over, the sentiment I get from
them is simply, we're scared to do our job anything
we do. You know, you've got to worry about the
bad guy in front of you shooting you're hurting you.
But more importantly, you got to worry about the government
behind your stabbing you in the back.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
So you you, sir, you were in you, you were
at that raid. You were shot in the leg?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Correct, Yes, it ripped through my trimeral artery. Thank god
for a tourniquet, or I wouldn't even be talking to you.
So I had a five and a half hour surgery,
replaced four inches of the artery with the vein. And yeah,
and that's the part that gets missed over. You know,
you talk about the active aggressor in this case was
Kenneth Walker, her boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Right, Well, see hit the storyline, the storyline us through
that day. Yuh, just tell us what happened through the raid,
What happened at the raid. A lot of people don't
know that story, So just take us there, tell us.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, yeah, let me tell about a couple of the
falsehoods that the ben Crumps of the world put out,
and that was simply him and Kamala Harris and Lebron
James and all these fools in Hollywood and the sports
world were like, he said, we had the wrong house,
which is a lie. He said she was asleep in bed,
which is a lie. They said it was a no
knock warrant, which was a lie, and that the boyfriend
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that we were quote looking for had been in custody
for ten hours, which was a lie. So when we
get up to the door, our first knock, a normal knock,
nobody came to the door. So we started banging, I
mean the loud everybody knows the police knock, especially in
that world, banging, banging, banging, screaming, police search warrant, police
search warrant. And this went on for a minute, which
when you're at a door, that feels like an eternity.
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I mean, we're just banging. A neighbor came out, We
got into an interaction with them, they went back inside,
and after a minute of them not coming to the
door and us knocking and announcing, we breached the door.
And as soon as that was breached, and I stepped
into the doorframe was I was met with a shot
from Kenneth Walker that ripped through my leg. I was
able to return a few shots before I got out
(35:10):
of the line of fire, and that's when the guy
behind me stepped up and began shooting as I went out. Well,
Brett was the third one in the stack, and this
is the whole premise of this case. They get smiths understood.
And I had questions at first too, because we're not
trained to shoot through windows. That's not how we're trained. However,
there's always exigent circumstances to things. And when Brett was
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at the door with me, he was the third one
in the stack. He saw the shot, heard it, saw
me go down and say I was shot. He circled
around the front of the building as these shots were
ringing out repeatedly by the other officer at the door.
He could see the flashes through the window, and in
his mind he thought we were still getting fired upon
by the individual inside. We were told when we went
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to this warrant by the brief by the investigators that
did the case, that it was just going to be
breathing at home. She's alone, no dogs, no kids, no
boyfriends no weapons. So in our mind, that's what we
were expecting because we thought they did a thorough investigation,
which comes to find out they didn't. So once we're
met with fire and all this gunfire is getting exchanged,
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Brett circles around to the front and sees these flashes
of the flame in the dark of the night in
this house, and he's like, man, my guys are getting
executed at the doorway because he knew I'd already been shot,
was down, So he started firing through the windows in
an attempt only to stop the threat, only to get
that guy to quit shooting, because in his mind what
he perceived in that moment, in those few seconds, and
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this thing was quick. I mean it was started and
over within twelve seconds. It was completely silent after twelve seconds.
And so that's the premise of the case. That's where
how they go, Well, this is this is important.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I'm glad you shared all that with us, because I
think a lot of people out there listening right now
are probably reacting as many other jurors have, which is,
you got shot by someone in side.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Of this apartment.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
How in the world is a police officer returning fire
at what he thinks is someone trying to kill his
fellow officers guilty of a crime that would necessitate him
being in prison for three years.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That seems crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And deprivation of civil rights specifically, which try to square
that circle.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah, it doesn't even meet the standards of that number one.
But secondly, Brett is the only officer ever charged for
returning fire after being fired upon that hit in the one.
He's the only officer in American history has been chartered
with that and not.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, look, I mean, I think the good news is that, uh, well,
we can share our opinions here freely. We don't have
to pretend to be sitting on the fence on these
kinds of things. I think President Trump should commuter part
in this. You know Brett Hankinson immediately. And I know
that there are people who listen to this show who
are close to the president, who are right now in
the White House. So I think President Trump, and I'll
(37:59):
share this public should at least step in with a
commutation of this clayft. I mean, I would, I would
say an outright pardon the notion that this officer might
serve or that could even theoretically, sir before appeal, almost
three years in prison for shooting a gun when someone's
been shooting at officers and he didn't even hit anybody. Well,
it's just it's just it's it's a case that is,
But it's so instructive about how vile the Biden administration
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was when it came to throwing law enforcement under the bus.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Let me ask you this, Sergeant Maddingley, who hit I
don't even remember who hit Breonna Taylor.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
One of my bullets hit I believe her left leg
because as soon as Kenneth shot, he dove into a
bedroom because he was right on a wall and she
was She was on the outside of me. Number one,
Why do you bring your girlfriend out in the hall
if you really think you're getting broken into to stand
with you? So as soon as he shot, he dove
out of the way like a coward. She attempted to following.
One of my bullets struck her armor leg, I can't
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remember which one. And then the other officer who was
firing over top of me once I went down, actually
struck her and and tragically, you know, nobody wanted her
to die, but tragically, one of the bullets struck her
A order and the medical examiner said, had she been
shot at the door of the emergency room, she would
not have lived. She died that quickly because it ripped
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through her order and she bled out. So the premise
that that we did not render aid, which is what
the judge said, blew my mind. And I'm like number one.
Kennis Walker didn't even call nine one one for six
and a half minutes after this incident happened. He refused
to come out to almost seventeen minutes after this incident happened.
He had no blood on him, and when he came out,
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he actually told the police unseen on bodycam, that Brianna
is the one that shot because she was scared.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So this dude, I forget.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Did he have a criminal lied? He lied about who
fired the shot on body camera?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Yes, yes, I've got that video.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, But did he have a previous criminal record. I'm
trying to remember all the facts of the case.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
He had been arrested one time with a gun in marijuana,
and originally he lost his rights to a weapon. They
amended it down to a misdemeanor like all these courts
do for the thugs, and then he got his rights
back for the gun. However, in his text threat on
the film they did download from him, He's on there
dealing drugs to people. He's talked about home invasions. So
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this guy was not this saint that they put out.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
How many people do you think? No, I appreciate you
calling in. I mean, obviously we didn't schedule this. You
heard us talking about it. You're on I'm assuming in
Louisville listening to us there. We have a big audience.
How many people do you think know the full story here?
Because I think Buck's right. President Trump should commute your
fellow officer. This thirty three month sentence is crazy for
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what he was charged with. The initial by the way,
warrant for people out there who don't know, you were
told that she was there by herself.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Well, what was the intent of the warrant? What were
you going to try to do?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Well? This was going to be a RICO case on
this JaMarcus Clover, who had just been a menace. He
had six or seven pending felony cases in circuit court
for guns and drugs, fentanyl, all this stuff she was.
This is what tied him to her apartment that everybody
asked about his ID had her address, his vehicles were
(41:16):
registered to her address, his phone came back to her address,
his bank account had her address. In January, two months
prior to this incident, he was arrested on a warrant
for drugs and guns, on a search warrant where they
got seven guns and a bunch of dope. And she's
the one that bailed him out. And when she was
there to bail him out, she gave her addresses his
and gave her phone number as his, so everything tied
(41:36):
back to her. On jail records her talking, it's got
him talking about Brionna held all of our money because
his baby mama was ticked off that fourteen thousand his
was at her house and he said, well, maybe she
holds all of our money, and so she was tied
into this. In twenty seventeen, she rented a car that
a person was murdered in and they found the vehicle
(41:58):
with this dude shot in the head, and when they
asked her about it, she was like, I don't know
what happened to the car, give it to JaMarcus Glover
and nothing was ever done with that. She was not
an EMT and I'm not bashing her, but all the
media lot about all this stuff. She was not an EMT.
She got fired in twenty seventeen after only five months
of being on the job, wasn't even off probation, and
the city did a no rehire clause, which is rare
(42:21):
in most instances. So there was some pretty serious stuff
tied to that. And so this whole case of y'all
shouldn't have been there in the first place. Well, she
was part of this organization. She may not have been
the one physically slinging the drugs, but she was out there.
She was deeply involved.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
This is fan So we appreciate you calling us and
filling in our audience because this is great and you're.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Doing a service by telling the people the truth about this.
And also, like I said, we've got senators, we got
people in and around Trump at the White House who.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Are going to be hearing this.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
And there's absolutely no way that that officer should be
serving a day in prison for this. It's a total
outrage of the justice system.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Well, one of the travesties in this case, guys, is
that from the beginning, our department refused to combat any
of the lies. They've never told the truth about it.
Our mayor at the time super little did they No,
they couldn't violating law or violating policies I wanted to.
They demoted me down into the property room from my
(43:22):
narcotics post. And when that happened, and the only reason
they did it is because I wrote a book and
started talking about it is to tell the truth. And
they were trying to do anything they could to fire me.
And I saw the writing on the wall, and I
wanted my pension because that was the only way I
was going to be able to feed my family. So
I retired im on accord because they were trying to
push me out. And I wrote a book, Twelve Seconds
(43:42):
in the Dark, and you get it on my website.
And the only reason I wrote that wasn't for fame
or notoriety, but because no one was telling the truth.
Everybody had all these misconceptions of the case, and I
was frustrated, and so we put that out there and
word has spread some. But when you're let's face it,
I'm a nobody. You guys didn't know who I was
(44:03):
except for what you saw on the media, So nobody
like me, it's hard to get the word out. It's
hard to push this agenda when all the factors are
against you.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
John maattinglyy dot com is his site officer. Mattingly, thank
you so much for shedding some very important light on
this case. And we're going to stay on it and
a lot more people know about it now than did
just a couple hours ago, So thank you well.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
I appreciate it. Thank you guys for being the arbiter
of truth.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Thank you so much.
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Speaker 3 (45:10):
Now, Senator Sullivan of Alaska is going to join us
talk about the Big Beautiful Bill. Also, I would imagine
Senator you are eager to get back to Alaska so
you can start talking with everyone there about the impact
of the Big Beautiful Bill on many different fronts, including energy.
What's the difference between what the Trump administration is allowing
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your state of Alaska to do with all the natural
resources there compared to what the Biden administration was doing
for your state.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
What is the impact?
Speaker 7 (45:44):
Jeez clay Buck, that is the greatest question. Great to
be back on your show, and that's the key question,
and it's one hundred and ten percent difference. The Democrats
want to shut down Alaska. I want to shutdown American energy.
President Trump and his team want to unleash it and
(46:05):
they're doing it everywhere. This Big Beautiful Bill does it,
especially with regard to Alaska. But look to be more specific,
during the four years of the Biden administration, Alaskans know this.
We suffered through seventy that seven zero executive orders and
executive action singularly focused exclusively focused on shutting down Alaska's
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resource development economy, and the President and his team are
one hundred and ten percent opposite. That's great for America,
great for Alaska, and really great for American workers.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Senator, appreciate you being with us. What's going on in
the Senate right now, you guys still have some time
left here. You're about to go on recess. I hear
Schumer is up to Schumer shenanigans and blocking judges and
causing some problems for you guys. Bring us up to
speed with the business of the Senate as it stands
right now.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
Look, Buck, we had a really very productive first six
months with the President. I would say historic, and you
guys mentioned it. I'm getting ready to go home and
really really sell this one big, beautiful bill. I don't
think there's any state that fared better than Alaska, particularly
(47:20):
to their earlier questions on the American energy components. A
huge part of this bill is unlocking American energy, and
most of the bill was unlocking Alaska. You know, American
energy dominance run through my great state, So I'm anxious
to get home to make the pitch to so many
Alaskans where they have a much better understanding how this
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helps working families, our economy, our military, our Coastguard is
a home run. But to your question, Schumer, you know, look,
the guy is so afraid of his left wing right.
Every day he wakes up scared to death that AOC
is going to primary him him. So he is trying
to fight supposedly anything that we're trying to get done
(48:05):
to move forward with our government, certainly on legislation, but
on nominees, on basic you know, under secretary's assistant secretaries,
people who run our government, he blocks every way they
can to get their Senate confirmation. So we're going to
start just jamming down on these guys. We just had
a meeting of all our Senate Republican colleagues saying, hey,
(48:29):
we need to go morning, noon, and night to start
getting the president's nominees across the board. We've gotten zero
cooperation from Schumer, and usually you guys on the lower
level nominees, if it's an assistant secretary, you kind of
put it in a package to move something forward. With
several nominees. That's very normal. We did it with Biden,
(48:52):
they did it previously. Schumer's not doing that. This is
the most obstruction we've seen from any Senate Minority leader
on another administration's nominees, literally since Herbert Hoover. The guy
won't help us at all. So we're gonna start jamming
down on him.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
We're talking to Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska. One of
the things that obviously is going to be a huge
topic of discussion next year is the House. And I
think we talked about this with you before, but the
ranked choice voting in Alaska seems to me to be
a complete mess.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
What is the latest on that.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Do you agree that it's a mess, And what are
Alaskans thinking after they were kind of I think bamboozled
into the idea in the first place.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
Well, look, it's still on the ballot in Alaska, and
there's an outside group that put it on the ballot
a statewide initiative in twenty twenty The Republicans fought it,
I fought it. We tried to get it removed in
twenty twenty four. By the way, both times it pass
with less than one percent of the vote. And we
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are the groups against it. Republicans myself, we are outspent.
It's unbelievable, I don't know, twelve thirteen million by the
outside group's four ranked choice voting versus eighty thousand by
the Republican Party. It's very confusing, and it can be really,
(50:23):
really manipulated. And the Democrats, in my view, particularly Schumer,
who's already been you know, I'm up for reelection this
cycle as well. We have a Congressman Nick Vegas. She's
doing a great job, but we'll have to run against
that and look the best way even with a system
like that which we don't like. I don't like. It's confusing,
(50:43):
it can be manipulated. Alaskans are still confused by it.
Is to show what we're getting done, and again, I
want to come back to this one big, beautiful bill
for Alaska. This bill, across every element of policy in
our economy, is really really strong, and what we're going
(51:05):
to do is run on our record, and I think
for Alaska, this bill, particularly as it relates to jobs
in our economy and the working class, is a home run.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
What are the most important changes that Trump administration could
see through here from where things were under four years
of Biden on the issue of energy. I mean, obviously, Alaska,
a very important energy production state, affects your economy. It
really affects America and the global economy too. You guys
have a lot of stuff up there. What needs to
happen or what are some of the concrete things that
(51:37):
Trump can do so that we take drill, baby drill
to the next level.
Speaker 7 (51:42):
Yeah, well, we've done it in this bill, and the
President did it literally day one. You guys might recall.
One of the president's first executive orders about a couple
hours after he was inaugurated, was this executive Order on
Unleashing Alaska's extra Ordinary Resource Potential. I work directly with
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the President and his team on this to unleash Alaska.
We're the only state in the country that has our
own executive order. So what that executive order did was
it said, hey, we're going to reverse pretty much all
the seventy executive orders that Biden issued to shut down Alaska.
So that that was good, But the big beautiful Bill
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is even better because what we did is that we
put a lot of those reversals into law, and that's
just obviously much stronger in terms of what you know,
God forbid, we have a Democrat administration four years from now.
I certainly hope we don't. But if that administration tries
to come in and shut down Alaska, they're not going
to be able to do it because let me give
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you a couple examples. On the One Big Beautiful Bill,
we open the Anwar, the National Patrolum Reserve of Alaska,
the cook Inlet Region. These are all federal lands that
have huge resources, and we mandate in this bill regular
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lease sales that Biden would never do, that Democrats would
never do in the law. So it says, hey, energy
companies can come up, they get regular lea sales on
all of these really really important federal lands. As you
guys mentioned, Alaska has so much oil and gas, so
many critical minerals. And then really importantly, we got a
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permitting reform provision in the One Big Beautiful Bill that
will help expedite the permitting of these projects. One of
our greatest challenges the Dems love to abuse it is,
you know, having a permitting system. It takes ten to
fifteen to twenty years to permit a resource development project.
That kills our competitiveness. It's really hard for long term
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investors to invest in Alaska when they have these permitting issues,
and we got per many reform done in this one big,
beautiful bill as well to expedite these projects, get them
online quickly. That's a part of the bill. It hasn't
got a lot of attention. Great for Alaska, great for America.
So if you can get it in the law, which
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is what we did on energy in this bill, it's
even better than the executive order that the President issued,
which we are really appreciative of. So it's the combo
of both. And he's got a great energy team, a
bunch of his cabinet. We're just up in Alaska recently.
I hosted them all over the state. It's going to
be very exciting times for Alaska and resource development. By
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the way, we'd love to have you guys, Clay buck
up up to our state. We can do a program
from Alaska. I think I talked about that last time
I was on it.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Can we get as long as we get yeah, I was,
as long as we can get Clay close to some
grizzly bears, He's going to be excited.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
He likes to get real close though, Senator, you know
he wants to see them.
Speaker 7 (54:55):
Clay, I will bring you close.
Speaker 6 (54:56):
Man.
Speaker 7 (54:57):
There's great fishing going on in our great state right now.
It's it's the place to be. But we really do that.
Remember last time, last time I was on the show,
we talked about you guys all coming up. You got
a lot of listeners in Alaska, huge fans, and we
can do it. You guys should have a ball.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
I am sold on this idea.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
In fact, I was talking to my wife downstairs right
but during the last commercial break, she was like, Hey,
what you got going on? I said, hey, we've got
one of the senators from Alaska going Neither she nor
I have ever been to Alaska. It is on the
top of the list. And she said, well, we've got
to go up to Alaska. So I know we have
some good affiliates up there. You guys can reach out.
Let's see if we can get this set up. I
(55:35):
want to make the trip. I've been wanting to visit
for a long time, Senator, So maybe we can get
this thing worked out where we can come up and
do broadcast, or one of us can at least, and
that would be me, and we'll see whether Buck can
make it too.
Speaker 7 (55:50):
Butay, you come up with your wife, Buck, you come
up with your family, and here's what we'll do. We'll
do the one Big Beautiful Bill tour because look, there
is so many good things in this bill for the country,
but for the great state of Alaska. I could do
a program with you guys for three hours. And what
we're trying to do. Now you know the way the
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Democrats work. Schumer has spent his far left dark money groups.
They've spent I mean, believe or not, up close to
two million bucks running negative ads against me and this
bill and how it's horrible. It's not. They're all false ads.
So what we're doing is we're trying to make the
case all over the state. But heck, we could do
(56:31):
a one big beautiful clay Buck tour.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
And I don't hate it. I don't hate this idea
at all.
Speaker 7 (56:38):
And I'm telling you, man, you guys would love it.
Bring your family, we'd have a blast, and we'd we'd
get the word out right because people want to hear
the truth.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I love this. We'll talk of the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Got a three month old, so traveling all the way
from Miami to Alaska bit of a trip, so he
might not be able to do it, but we will.
I want to come up there and we'll come up
for the show for sure and help you out with
this process. And fusher Greg is making fun of me
and saying maybe I could swim from Alaska to Russia
because I said I could swim from Alcatraz to the same.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
That's after you do the Alcatraz swim. The bearing straight
swim is the that's the pro or challenging.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Senator. We appreciate the time.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
Okay, guys, good to be back on the show, and
thanks for your great work.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Thank you appreciate it. I will say Clay Alaska in
the summer, which is when I went there. Maybe, Yeah,
I went keen I Peninsula fishing with my dad and
my brothers. One of the most in terms of natural beauty,
one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. I mean,
if you like the cold, crisp weather beauty, it's it's amazing.
I mean, I have to go and my wife Laura,
(57:42):
I'm not kidding. We were just talking about this and
how we want to add it to the list. So
maybe we make that happen in the meantime.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
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the event that you've got something going on.
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
I appreciate you being with us. A lot to dive into.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Right now, as we're talking to you, President Trump is
speaking to the nation. He is in the Oval Office,
He's doing a sit down with the President of the Philippines,
and they're covering a whole range of topics, and that
is in real time as I'm speaking to you. Trump
right now laying into the Russia hopes as the biggest
(00:30):
scandal in history. And we'll bring you some of the
key soundbites from this meeting. Also discussion from the president
from our president. Right there's the Philippine president, there's President
Trump sitting side by side, but of more cooperation, military
cooperation with the Philippines, and Trump saying we're gonna have
more missiles than we've ever had before. Slow missiles, fast missiles,
(00:53):
big missiles, small missiles. So we've got that to dive into,
and we'll bring you some of it. Hunter Biden, the
interview he did is actually getting a lot of attention.
And now Clay is not the only person that I
have heard who thinks that he might see a role
for himself in politics. Still, I just want to say
(01:15):
I still think this is crazy, but there's a little
voice in my head that says, oh my gosh, there's
a small chance that Clay actually may be on to
something with this one, and I will be the crazy
one for having missed it.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But we shall see.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I want him to run, let me be clear, and
I don't think he has any chance to be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
But I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The only thing that adds up here to me is
Hunter thinks he is the savior of his family and
that there is actually a demand for him in a
way that every other Democrat basically is like, no, no, no, no,
we just want to pretend to Biden era never happened.
I think Hunter thinks he should run. I think that's
what Hunter has got in his head.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
That would be It would be the craziest thing in
American politics in terms of somebody wanting to or deciding
to run again since Anthony Wiener, post conviction, oh yeah,
post criminal sex crime, decided that he was going to
run for the mayor of New York City and then
that faded out rather quickly. So the Hunter Biden thing,
(02:18):
it is interesting to see Hunter describing the differences between
crack cocaine and other forms. He is like a chemist.
He actually has some real domain knowledge, not about say,
international energy agreements where he was being paid by Barisma
as a consultant. But you know, if the cartels were
(02:38):
paying this guy, I would have understood that because he
knows a lot about drugs. It's pretty impressive when he
breaks it down. We'll bring you some of those of
those clips. The whole Hunter thing, though, is I am surprised.
I thought the bidens were I thought the bidens were done.
But you know one thing, Clay, that I think we
now all have to be ready for an American politics
is that for people, for people who have been in
(03:00):
the big game or near the big game in some capacity,
they'll never accept that they're done.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Look at Joe Biden. For people who have just even gotten.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
A taste of what it is to be truly in power,
they think that there's always a lane, always a role
for them. And I think that Hunter Biden, yes he's
a recovering addict and all that, he's just an example
an example of that. We've also got just a few
other odds and ends to throw in here before we
get into some of the Trump stuff, Play Speaker Mike
(03:30):
Johnson is gonna shut down the House until September. They're
not gonna have a vote on releasing the Epstein files
d o J. I believe that the number two at DOJ,
or somebody close to the number two is going to
possibly have a conversation with Gielen Maxwell, the co conspirator,
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along with Jeffrey Epstein, who is still alive in custody,
So that story is getting some attention. And then Trump
all on the late night TV removal of Stephen Colbert.
Trump wrote this, Clay, the word is and it's a
strong word at that. Jimmy Kimmel is next to go
(04:12):
in the untalented Late night sweepstakes, and shortly thereafter Fallon
will be gone. These are people with no talent, paid
millions of dollars for destroying what used to be great television.
Really good to see them go. I hope I played
a major part in it. Trump not just defeating them,
but salting the earth under their feet.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Clay, I still can't believe that they've decided to make
a martyr out of Stephen Colbert, who's making somewhere between
fifteen or twenty million dollars a year, whose show is
losing forty million dollars a year, and somehow that he
is a martyr because he was fired. I mean, look,
if this show was losing any money at all, I
(04:52):
would expect that we would get fired. I just would
any show that I have ever done in the history
of my life.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
We'd be we'd we'd be, we'd be gentle, let go.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Let go.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I have never been on any show to my knowledge,
that has has lost money.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I've been at media companies that were losing money and
everybody starts getting fired.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
So that's not I have That's what I have been.
I have been fired.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
That's one reason I started out kick and yes, Buck
might prefer the euphemism left go but let go, but
let go implies that you had an option to continue
to hold on.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I didn't have an option to continue.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I've pulled the the Indiana Jones running in front of
the Boulder a few times and just grabbed the hat.
But it was like if I didn't leave, the doors
were closing and they were padlocking them.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
So I've had that a few times.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So look, I just anyone who works in media at
some point in time, if your product doesn't make money,
they find somebody who they think can make money. I
can't even imagine having the arrogance to be doing a
show that is losing forty million dollars a year, forty
(06:05):
million dollars a year, and then to be arguing, Oh,
the only reason I'm being fired is because I've been
too critical of President Trump. No, you're being fired because
that forty million dollars that the company is losing on
your show could be allocated to hire a lot more
people who could do a lot more profitable work.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm just I've always been I'm not a big late
night guy in general. And the more you learn about
how important sleep is now I'm being really boring. The
more you realize going to bed earlier is doing yourself
a huge favor. Whenever you can, whenever you can. Just saying,
but Jay Leno, whom I always liked more than Letterman,
although I was a casual watcher at best, I mean
(06:49):
I saw it, but I was like, I would watch
it kind of by accident if I was up at night.
I can't say, but I really never would anyway. Leno
producer Ali pulled this Yesterdy because I thought this is true.
Leno took a substantial pay cut, Yeah, to keep staff,
to keep his team around.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Nothing like that, trust me.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If Colbert's agent had something like that to throw out
there at this point, now is when these stories would
all come out. Colbert making fifteen million a year, let's
call a fifteen million clay while the while the show
is losing forty mini. He would know the show's losing
forty million dollars. It's obscene, obscene greed. And to let
people behind the curtains. I don't know how many people
(07:27):
publicly talked about this. I took a pay cut. You
took a pay cut during COVID so that we could
we have contracts, so that we could avoid having to
let go people who worked on I did a sports
talk show at the time you did a political show.
We took substantially less. And by the way, so did
a lot of our bosses. So did a lot of
(07:48):
people out there. When times got tough during COVID and
you didn't know what in the world was going to happen,
the first thing people do. So I think people understand
this in some ways, but when people start to feel
like a recession is coming. One of the first things
that companies do is spend less money on advertising, and
so it hits what we do faster than a lot
(08:09):
of other places. So when COVID happened, which was this
cataclysm where suddenly everybody's like, hey, we're gonna show there's
only essential, non essential businesses everything else. We took huge
pay cuts to maintain in some way the show's ability
to continue to employ staff. And so you don't get
to losing forty million dollars, It doesn't happen rapidly. You
(08:35):
have to work your way up to losing forty million dollars.
So I would think that pathway towards losing that amount
of money is been rapid and has been gradual.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In other words, there's lots of time where you could
have reversed the direction that the ship was headed, so
to speak. Also, why did nobody say, hey, we're spending
one hundred million dollars on this show and we're losing
I I they spend this is just my guess. I
bet they spend twenty million total if that on Gutfeld.
(09:07):
So Gutfeld, which is also in a New York City studio,
which also has a live audience. Some of you watch
that on Fox News. I don't know why they didn't
just say, Hey, why don't we just rent a much
smaller studio space, have a much smaller live audience, dial
back the overall expenditures in a way that would allow
this program to at least break even. I bet that
(09:29):
they fought back against that idea because it would be
seen as a as a lack of endorsement of the show.
But I think that this is likely true. I think
all late night shows are going to be gone. I
think Trump is going to ultimately triumph in a way
that is pretty unbelievable over his harshest critics everywhere at MSNBC, CNN,
late night television. I think they're all going to lose
(09:51):
their jobs and Trump's going to be more powerful than ever.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, well, CNN has been destroyed by Trump. The brand
will never recover. The late night hosts I think have
been are in process of all being defenestrated from their
privileged purchase.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Look at you.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I'm impressed he does what he does, and I
think that Trump has done a tremendous service for the
American people just by exposing how many of these media outlets.
How many of these so called news organizations or even
so called comedians or comedic enterprises are really just a
(10:31):
smug propaganda and there's no reason for these things. They're
not being supported by the marketplace. They're really you know,
let's just say it, Clay late night TV sort of
turned into the w NBA of the television world. Subsidized ye, yeah,
subsidized by other actually profitable ventures within the company.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And for what why?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, I think that the analogy. I made that analogy
yesterday one of our OutKick shows. The WNBA lost forty
million dollars last year. It's the same amount as Stephen
Colbert and the protest. The players came out and pay
us what you owes T shirts. Well, if you got
actually paid what you were owed, as we discussed yesterday,
you would actually given a pix of teams.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, you'd be you sent home money, yeah you You
would actually no longer have a job if you were
paid what you were owed, because you were owed nothing
if you work for the WNBA. But nonetheless, it is
effectively like a charity. It's a it's a it's a
DEI women's sports charity is what the WNBA as a
pure business venture operates as Now, maybe that's changing now, uh,
(11:39):
you know, because of some of the visibility that it gets.
But on the late night TV host these late night comedians,
this is a major cultural shift. And it also proves
once again that what the right has been saying for
over twenty years, which is they these are there's left
wing dominance in these media outlets. It's not about the
profit motive. You know, they used to get away with saying, well,
(11:59):
this is what the audience wants. It's not about the
profit mode of a lot of these places. Whether it's
Hollywood studios you're talking about depends on the movie, or
you're talking certainly about the news organizations. They are ideologically
driven first on many of these decisions in many of
these ways. And you see that with late night comedy.
And I remember what a successful weapon the Daily Show
(12:23):
was against the Bush administration. And I did watch the
Daily Show pretty frequently when I was in college, and
the Daily Show gave people who didn't want to really
engage with the facts the ability to think that everybody
who disagreed with them was an idiot. Well that may
feel like fun at the time, but it's actually not
good for discourse. So I think that this is all
(12:46):
to the good, and we'll talk more about about some
of this and also what Trump has had to say
here about the referral and Russia collusion. Clay, I have
found an answer, and it's one of the things that
I offered up here as what would what would they
actually charge them with?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
We can address that. Oh good, So I went deep
diving into the criminal files.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, but it's what I said, which is we're going
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All right, welcome back in So President Trump was just
talking in the Oval Office with well with the whole nation.
But he was sitting next to the president of the Philippines,
and he covered a whole range of topics. Right, this
is this is the nature of a Trump press conference.
It's never the message. Staying on message for Trump is
(15:13):
whatever the heck he feels like in the moment. Talking
about that is that is on message. When you're dealing
with Trump, their message is whatever he wants. There's no script,
there's no roadway ahead. And he covered a lot of things,
and the media obviously was pushing him a bunch of
different directions.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But let's do let's first take a look.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Here at the focus.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
This comes after the Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbert
came out with more information, released new information showing that
the CIA was well aware that Russia didn't steal the
election for Trump. Clay shared out this morning on x
I saw it like two minutes of just people across
all the Democrat news sites and channels saying that Russia
(16:00):
hacked the election. And I always thought that was such
a weasel word to use. What does that mean, hacked
the election? That what they wanted. What they're saying is
Russia involved itself in some way, but they want people
to believe that Russia actually hacked the voting machines, which
they did not do, and there was never any evidence
or proof of that whatsoever. But seventy percent of Democrats
(16:20):
going two years into Trump's first term, you know that
clearly seventy percent of Democrats believe that Russia actually got
into the voting machines to help Trump beat Hilly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
They're so smart with the verbs that they used often,
because hacked the election can be a broad term of like, oh, well,
they hacked a few emails. Hacked the election is clearly
a phrase that is intended to tell you they changed
the outcome of the election, right, because otherwise, like who cares?
First of all, we try to hack almost every election
(16:51):
that takes place in any country in the world that
we care about. This whole idea that we have clean hands,
right how in the world. I mean, you could speak
to this probably, but I always love this, like the
idea that America just sits back and we have absolutely
no involvement in elections around the world. We probably, to
be fair, are the number one actor involved in elections
(17:13):
around the world. So this idea that we are clean
hands here, but yes, of course, our adversaries attempt to
get involved in many different things that we do in
the country hacked. The election is clearly intended to send
a message that Trump would have lost but for Russia.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And that Russia actually actively hacked. Right, it's a little bit.
You could say someone's biohacking if they, you know, have
like a snack that's dates in maple syrup or something.
If you turn on Instagram, everyone's by the way, ninety
percent of these people, especially if I mean if they're guys,
ninety percent of these people who are telling you how
to improve your health and whatever, and I'm somebody who,
(17:51):
as you know, has gone on a fitness journey for
a year now and lost about forty pounds, ninety percent
of them are just taking steroids.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And lying to you about it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Just you know, this is you don't have to or
some form of enhancement, whether it's you know, elevated levels
of TRT or whatever. So just whenever you see some
guy with a six pack, he's like, this is what
I eat in a day, and you're like, that guy
looks like Leonidas from the movie three hundred. It's not
because he had a couple of banana slices in the
morning or whatever. Or it's not because he had his
(18:18):
you know, yogurt and yogurt parfait before dinner. It's because
he's taking stuff. He's not telling you about it. I'd
say nine out of ten of those guys are doing that.
Put that aside for a second. That's just a free
that's just a little free at free insight for any
of you out there who are on Instagram or TikTok
these days, what would it look like if they were Oh,
before we get to the charge, is President Trump spoke
about this here? He is crooked Democrats, Barack Hussein Obama.
(18:42):
He loves to throw in the Hussein part. This has
cut twenty nine play it.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right
there with him, and so was sleeping Joe Biden, and
so with the rest of them, Cami Clapper, the whole group.
And they tried to rig an election, and they got caught.
And then they did rig the election in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And then because I knew I.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Won that election by a lot, I did it a
third time and I won in a landslide. Every swing
state won the popular vote, but I won that all
the same way in twenty twenty. And look at the
damage that was cast.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
But he's not moving on at all from the twenty
twenty election was stolen. In fact, he's saying that there
was a effectively a treasonous conspiracy to undo the twenty
sixteen election, and he wants accountability for this. This is
what the current president of the United States is saying.
And he has been one thing about him on this stuff.
(19:38):
He has been consistent on how poed he is on
this for a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Let's cut to the chase, because I think a lot
of people out there are going to say, Okay, we've
heard this for years. I think the evidence is out
there that supports that this did occur. There's no doubt
that they manufactured and in some way exaggerated the amount
that Russia was involved in the impact that they had,
even in the verb choices that they used in the
(20:05):
testimony that they put forward. So here's the question that
I have you mentioned what the charges could be. They
would have to go through a DC grand jury. DC,
as we know, votes Democrat ninety five percent. Here is
my statement to you, and if I'm wrong, we'll grab
this and we will play it and I will admit
(20:27):
that I am completely wrong. And you guys can tap
dance on my idiocy. There's no way that a DC
grand jury is indicting Barack Obama for anything. It will
not happen. So you not only well, also.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Wouldn't it be when he was when he was president.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
We've already established, right, I mean, the charges against Obama
would would deal with when you know, Hillary Trump. We're
talking twenty sixteen election now, and we've already well established
under Trump that you actually can't be charged for condo
in office.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Presidentigher than that's a great point. As we said, the
Supreme Court has given ample protection of presidents that benefited
Trump and would benefit Obama here. But let's pretend that
they are charging him for non presidential actions. Like let's
pretend that they find out that Obama after he left
the presidency, this occurred in I guess it would be
(21:25):
like January, late January twenty seventeen, February twenty seventeen. I
do not believe leave a side statute of limitations too.
I do not believe that there is a jury in Washington,
d C. A grand jury that would indict Barack Obama
for virtually any crime. So you can say hey, we
(21:45):
want to put out more information. You can say, hey,
we're investigating all this stuff. Obama basically lives in d C. Right,
He's never left, so you would have to find a
venue where you could charge him. I don't see how
he could be charged for a crime outside of d C.
And I don't think that the grand jury that sits
typically in d C would indict Barack Obama for anything.
(22:09):
Now Hillary's in New York and she's never been president.
So if you were trying to get an indictment against Hillary,
you would either have to do it in New York
or in DC. That seems highly unlikely too. Why do
I bring this up? I believe and I understand the
frustration over all the lies that were told over what
(22:29):
I think could be accurately termed to be criminal behavior.
I don't think there's gonna be any consequences for it.
I'm just telling you I'm wrong. I will I will
own it. But legally, we didn't coordinate this beforehand. Just
so you know, this is independently. We both came to this,
and I just don't I don't see it happening unless
they get very creative within the legal process. I would
(22:51):
just note Clay that the way though that the other
side will get very creative with these with charges.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's actually on display with a case that hasn't gotten
a lot of attention in conservative media, a lot more
focus on Epstein Russia collusion other things. But remember the
Brianna Taylor case, which was a huge part of the
BLM narrative and the the the police officer, a police
officer rather who was this just happened earlier today was
(23:25):
sentenced to thirty three months in prison for violating the
civil rights of Brianna Taylor. Now you may be did
Trump DOJ the conviction had already happened. The Trump DOJ
had said to the judge, Hey, look this guy, this
is preposterous. Basically, this guy should get one day in jail.
(23:48):
It's basically time served, like let him out. And the
judge in the case decided to give him a full
three years. Basically, you know, just shy of three years
in federal prison.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Didn't even shoot her.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He shot in response to a guy shooting at the cops.
They said, police open up. I mean, I remember this
Breonna Taylor case. They thought the guy, you know, and
there's all this story and all this evidence. You look
at it that there were packages being dropped off at
the house. So this wasn't like they just went into
the wrong house. They thought that she was The police
believed that Breonna Taylor, her premises was being used for
(24:25):
drug dealer was that was what they got their warrant on.
So they knocked at the door and the guy starts
shooting through the door at the cops. Yep, who did
he really who did he really think he was shooting
at everybody? He just thought, Oh, it was drug dealers
that had come to rob him. Really did the drug
dealers say?
Speaker 5 (24:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Police open up?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But the guy who just got three almost three years
in federal prison, the Trump DJ wanted one. They wouldn't
even brought the case. But I believe the conviction had
already happened.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
This guy.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think state charges, by the way, Clay also were
not brought up against this guy. He shot through the
window in response to the gunfire at him. That's what
this cop did. So he returned fire and shot through
a window to try to hit the guy who was shooting,
and did hit one of his fellow police officers. And
they charged him with violating Brenna Taylor's civil rights.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, what is that?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah anything, he didn't shoot her, Just to be clear,
he didn't even hit her. So by shooting through the
window in response to somebody else who's trying to kill
you and your fellow officers the Biden era, DOJ and
this judge now think you should go to prison for years.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
It's outrageous. I agree.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And they had multiple cases, they had mistrials, They had
a variety of different stories. They came out for people
out there who maybe just don't remember what happened on
that day, is that the Louisville police officer said they
announced themselves before entering the home, were immediately met with gunfire.
(25:59):
According to the statement, Walker discharged his firearm first injuring
an officer. Walker claimed, this is the individual inside of
the home that he thought someone was entering the residence illegally.
Uh nine cal said, somebody kicked in the door shot
my girlfriend. So all of this came out of it,
(26:21):
and look the upshot of it is it happened on
March thirteenth, twenty twenty, right in the midst of the
BLM era beginning.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, so they fed these they fed these cops to
the angry mob.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Is what happened.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We all see exactly what happened here. This was just,
oh my gosh, we're having a racial reckoning.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
What can we do? The cops were under fire and
one of them was actually shot, and they returned fire.
It was an accident that Breonna Taylor was hit. They
were not trying to shoot her. But if somebody I
spent a little fair amount of time with guns, a
fair amount of time shooting. I tell you this, Clay,
somebody is shooting at me. I am shooting back, a
(27:00):
pretty good shot, but under fire.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Nobody knows how I've never been shot at, and nobody
knows how good they are at dealing with that until
they have to your adrenaline dump goes through, you know,
puts your adrenale through the roof, and to charge though
with you know, he was acquitted on state charges, so
he's acquitted, this officer, and then they bring federal charges
of deprivation of rights, which is what they always do
when they want to get these cops, which is just
(27:23):
this kind of catch all for like, you know, the
racial reckoning we need after George Floyd or whatever, he
is a mistrial on that one, and they bring it again.
They bring this again after a mistrial and an acquittal,
so desperate, you know why, because they worried that.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
You know, they're in the in the low income areas.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Of Louisville, there would be whole neighborhoods or you know,
whole stores burned down and blocks burned down if they
didn't at least put one cop away for this.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
That's just the truth.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I think your point yesterday about the the amount of
camera is on police, basically we haven't had a BLM
incident since we have had cameras on police. Doesn't mean
that police are not going to do things wrong. Everybody
in their profession can screw up, but it's pretty evident
when a cop acts well outside the bounds of police authority,
(28:14):
and most people don't defend them.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But most of the time.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
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You never know what you may get on the program.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
From minutes a minute, we were just talking about the
decision made to give one of the police officers in Louisville, Kentucky,
a thirty three month prison sentence, despite the fact that
the Trump Department of Justice had suggested just one day,
and we were walking through the Breonna Taylor information and
giving people more about that because it's been several years
(30:37):
and some of you may well have forgotten about what
took place there. Well, listening in Louisville, Kentucky was one
of the officers involved in that raid. His name is
John Mattingly, and he is with us now, and so
I want to bring him in and I'll just say,
first of all, thanks for listening and broadly, just tell
(30:59):
us what happened on that day and what you think
about the thirty three month sentence that your former police
officer colleague got in that case. And obviously thanks for listening.
What can you tell us about that day?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, Clayen Travis, I appreciate you guys having me on
and being willing to get it from you know, firsthand source,
somebody who's kind of been through the fire and all
this thing. First off, let me start with the decision.
I think the judge when it was the Biden DOJ
did everything they asked for in the case. In the trial,
there were so many things that were unprofessional by that DJ.
(31:38):
I've never set on a side and felt like it
was a defense attorney over there with underhand tactics lying.
She did not allow cell phones to get entered into
evidence or the ones that were in evidence. She refused
to let him at trial at the end, when the
jurors kept coming back going, man, we got a hung jury.
We got a hung jury. And then they asked the
question should we assume Brianna is dead or alive? She said,
(32:02):
assumed she was dead or alive, which totally negates the
legal process and the judge's influence on the jury, because
in order for a statute such as the civil rights violation,
the person has to be alive, and there were just
so many things, man, And I think the appeal is
so strong and going to go very quickly once the
process starts, if this DJ even allows it, because I
(32:24):
was sitting in the courtroom and I saw two faces
to the DJ, the one under Biden and the one
under Trump, and the one under Trump was so rational
and logical, like any human being would look at a
process and go, this is the way it should be.
This makes sense when you look at the facts of
the case, and anything outside of this scope is unreasonable.
(32:45):
And so I'm so happy that Trump's back in. I
think if once this word gets out on how this
DJ is actually treating police officers now not as some
kind of wicked racist, you know, hateful people, as opposed
to people who are risking their lives simply trying to
get centerel off the street, trying to get murderers off
the street, because every time an action was taken. I've
(33:07):
talked to thousands of cops across the country. When I
speak and over and over, the sentiment I get from
them is simply, we're scared to do our job anything
we do. You know, you've got to worry about the
bad guy in front of you shooting you're hurting you.
But more importantly, you got to worry about the government
behind your stabbing you in the back.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
So you you, sir, you were in you, you were
at that raid. You were shot in the leg?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Correct, Yes, it ripped through my trimeral artery. Thank god
for a tourniquet, or I wouldn't even be talking to you.
So I had a five and a half hour surgery,
replaced four inches of the artery with the vein. And yeah,
and that's the part that gets missed over. You know,
you talk about the active aggressor in this case was
Kenneth Walker, her boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Right, Well, see hit the storyline, the storyline us through
that day. Yuh, just tell us what happened through the raid,
What happened at the raid. A lot of people don't
know that story, So just take us there, tell us.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, yeah, let me tell about a couple of the
falsehoods that the ben Crumps of the world put out,
and that was simply him and Kamala Harris and Lebron
James and all these fools in Hollywood and the sports
world were like, he said, we had the wrong house,
which is a lie. He said she was asleep in bed,
which is a lie. They said it was a no
knock warrant, which was a lie, and that the boyfriend
(34:26):
that we were quote looking for had been in custody
for ten hours, which was a lie. So when we
get up to the door, our first knock, a normal knock,
nobody came to the door. So we started banging, I
mean the loud everybody knows the police knock, especially in
that world, banging, banging, banging, screaming, police search warrant, police
search warrant. And this went on for a minute, which
when you're at a door, that feels like an eternity.
(34:48):
I mean, we're just banging. A neighbor came out, We
got into an interaction with them, they went back inside,
and after a minute of them not coming to the
door and us knocking and announcing, we breached the door.
And as soon as that was breached, and I stepped
into the doorframe was I was met with a shot
from Kenneth Walker that ripped through my leg. I was
able to return a few shots before I got out
(35:10):
of the line of fire, and that's when the guy
behind me stepped up and began shooting as I went out. Well,
Brett was the third one in the stack, and this
is the whole premise of this case. They get smiths understood.
And I had questions at first too, because we're not
trained to shoot through windows. That's not how we're trained. However,
there's always exigent circumstances to things. And when Brett was
(35:32):
at the door with me, he was the third one
in the stack. He saw the shot, heard it, saw
me go down and say I was shot. He circled
around the front of the building as these shots were
ringing out repeatedly by the other officer at the door.
He could see the flashes through the window, and in
his mind he thought we were still getting fired upon
by the individual inside. We were told when we went
(35:54):
to this warrant by the brief by the investigators that
did the case, that it was just going to be
breathing at home. She's alone, no dogs, no kids, no
boyfriends no weapons. So in our mind, that's what we
were expecting because we thought they did a thorough investigation,
which comes to find out they didn't. So once we're
met with fire and all this gunfire is getting exchanged,
(36:15):
Brett circles around to the front and sees these flashes
of the flame in the dark of the night in
this house, and he's like, man, my guys are getting
executed at the doorway because he knew I'd already been shot,
was down, So he started firing through the windows in
an attempt only to stop the threat, only to get
that guy to quit shooting, because in his mind what
he perceived in that moment, in those few seconds, and
(36:38):
this thing was quick. I mean it was started and
over within twelve seconds. It was completely silent after twelve seconds.
And so that's the premise of the case. That's where
how they go, Well, this is this is important.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
I'm glad you shared all that with us, because I
think a lot of people out there listening right now
are probably reacting as many other jurors have, which is,
you got shot by someone in side.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Of this apartment.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
How in the world is a police officer returning fire
at what he thinks is someone trying to kill his
fellow officers guilty of a crime that would necessitate him
being in prison for three years.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That seems crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And deprivation of civil rights specifically, which try to square
that circle.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah, it doesn't even meet the standards of that number one.
But secondly, Brett is the only officer ever charged for
returning fire after being fired upon that hit in the one.
He's the only officer in American history has been chartered
with that and not.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Well, look, I mean, I think the good news is that, uh, well,
we can share our opinions here freely. We don't have
to pretend to be sitting on the fence on these
kinds of things. I think President Trump should commuter part
in this. You know Brett Hankinson immediately. And I know
that there are people who listen to this show who
are close to the president, who are right now in
the White House. So I think President Trump, and I'll
(37:59):
share this public should at least step in with a
commutation of this clayft. I mean, I would, I would
say an outright pardon the notion that this officer might
serve or that could even theoretically, sir before appeal, almost
three years in prison for shooting a gun when someone's
been shooting at officers and he didn't even hit anybody. Well,
it's just it's just it's it's a case that is,
But it's so instructive about how vile the Biden administration
(38:22):
was when it came to throwing law enforcement under the bus.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Let me ask you this, Sergeant Maddingley, who hit I
don't even remember who hit Breonna Taylor.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
One of my bullets hit I believe her left leg
because as soon as Kenneth shot, he dove into a
bedroom because he was right on a wall and she
was She was on the outside of me. Number one,
Why do you bring your girlfriend out in the hall
if you really think you're getting broken into to stand
with you? So as soon as he shot, he dove
out of the way like a coward. She attempted to following.
One of my bullets struck her armor leg, I can't
(38:53):
remember which one. And then the other officer who was
firing over top of me once I went down, actually
struck her and and tragically, you know, nobody wanted her
to die, but tragically, one of the bullets struck her
A order and the medical examiner said, had she been
shot at the door of the emergency room, she would
not have lived. She died that quickly because it ripped
(39:15):
through her order and she bled out. So the premise
that that we did not render aid, which is what
the judge said, blew my mind. And I'm like number one.
Kennis Walker didn't even call nine one one for six
and a half minutes after this incident happened. He refused
to come out to almost seventeen minutes after this incident happened.
He had no blood on him, and when he came out,
(39:36):
he actually told the police unseen on bodycam, that Brianna
is the one that shot because she was scared.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
So this dude, I forget.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Did he have a criminal lied? He lied about who
fired the shot on body camera?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Yes, yes, I've got that video.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, But did he have a previous criminal record. I'm
trying to remember all the facts of the case.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
He had been arrested one time with a gun in marijuana,
and originally he lost his rights to a weapon. They
amended it down to a misdemeanor like all these courts
do for the thugs, and then he got his rights
back for the gun. However, in his text threat on
the film they did download from him, He's on there
dealing drugs to people. He's talked about home invasions. So
(40:19):
this guy was not this saint that they put out.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
How many people do you think? No, I appreciate you
calling in. I mean, obviously we didn't schedule this. You
heard us talking about it. You're on I'm assuming in
Louisville listening to us there. We have a big audience.
How many people do you think know the full story here?
Because I think Buck's right. President Trump should commute your
fellow officer. This thirty three month sentence is crazy for
(40:43):
what he was charged with. The initial by the way,
warrant for people out there who don't know, you were
told that she was there by herself.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Well, what was the intent of the warrant? What were
you going to try to do?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Well? This was going to be a RICO case on
this JaMarcus Clover, who had just been a menace. He
had six or seven pending felony cases in circuit court
for guns and drugs, fentanyl, all this stuff she was.
This is what tied him to her apartment that everybody
asked about his ID had her address, his vehicles were
(41:16):
registered to her address, his phone came back to her address,
his bank account had her address. In January, two months
prior to this incident, he was arrested on a warrant
for drugs and guns, on a search warrant where they
got seven guns and a bunch of dope. And she's
the one that bailed him out. And when she was
there to bail him out, she gave her addresses his
and gave her phone number as his, so everything tied
(41:36):
back to her. On jail records her talking, it's got
him talking about Brionna held all of our money because
his baby mama was ticked off that fourteen thousand his
was at her house and he said, well, maybe she
holds all of our money, and so she was tied
into this. In twenty seventeen, she rented a car that
a person was murdered in and they found the vehicle
(41:58):
with this dude shot in the head, and when they
asked her about it, she was like, I don't know
what happened to the car, give it to JaMarcus Glover
and nothing was ever done with that. She was not
an EMT and I'm not bashing her, but all the
media lot about all this stuff. She was not an EMT.
She got fired in twenty seventeen after only five months
of being on the job, wasn't even off probation, and
the city did a no rehire clause, which is rare
(42:21):
in most instances. So there was some pretty serious stuff
tied to that. And so this whole case of y'all
shouldn't have been there in the first place. Well, she
was part of this organization. She may not have been
the one physically slinging the drugs, but she was out there.
She was deeply involved.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
This is fan So we appreciate you calling us and
filling in our audience because this is great and you're.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Doing a service by telling the people the truth about this.
And also, like I said, we've got senators, we got
people in and around Trump at the White House who.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Are going to be hearing this.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
And there's absolutely no way that that officer should be
serving a day in prison for this. It's a total
outrage of the justice system.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Well, one of the travesties in this case, guys, is
that from the beginning, our department refused to combat any
of the lies. They've never told the truth about it.
Our mayor at the time super little did they No,
they couldn't violating law or violating policies I wanted to.
They demoted me down into the property room from my
(43:22):
narcotics post. And when that happened, and the only reason
they did it is because I wrote a book and
started talking about it is to tell the truth. And
they were trying to do anything they could to fire me.
And I saw the writing on the wall, and I
wanted my pension because that was the only way I
was going to be able to feed my family. So
I retired im on accord because they were trying to
push me out. And I wrote a book, Twelve Seconds
(43:42):
in the Dark, and you get it on my website.
And the only reason I wrote that wasn't for fame
or notoriety, but because no one was telling the truth.
Everybody had all these misconceptions of the case, and I
was frustrated, and so we put that out there and
word has spread some. But when you're let's face it,
I'm a nobody. You guys didn't know who I was
(44:03):
except for what you saw on the media, So nobody
like me, it's hard to get the word out. It's
hard to push this agenda when all the factors are
against you.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
John maattinglyy dot com is his site officer. Mattingly, thank
you so much for shedding some very important light on
this case. And we're going to stay on it and
a lot more people know about it now than did
just a couple hours ago, So thank you well.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
I appreciate it. Thank you guys for being the arbiter
of truth.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Thank you so much.
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Now, Senator Sullivan of Alaska is going to join us
talk about the Big Beautiful Bill. Also, I would imagine
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you can start talking with everyone there about the impact
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What's the difference between what the Trump administration is allowing
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your state of Alaska to do with all the natural
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What is the impact?
Speaker 7 (45:44):
Jeez clay Buck, that is the greatest question. Great to
be back on your show, and that's the key question,
and it's one hundred and ten percent difference. The Democrats
want to shut down Alaska. I want to shutdown American energy.
President Trump and his team want to unleash it and
(46:05):
they're doing it everywhere. This Big Beautiful Bill does it,
especially with regard to Alaska. But look to be more specific,
during the four years of the Biden administration, Alaskans know this.
We suffered through seventy that seven zero executive orders and
executive action singularly focused exclusively focused on shutting down Alaska's
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resource development economy, and the President and his team are
one hundred and ten percent opposite. That's great for America,
great for Alaska, and really great for American workers.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Senator, appreciate you being with us. What's going on in
the Senate right now, you guys still have some time
left here. You're about to go on recess. I hear
Schumer is up to Schumer shenanigans and blocking judges and
causing some problems for you guys. Bring us up to
speed with the business of the Senate as it stands
right now.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
Look, Buck, we had a really very productive first six
months with the President. I would say historic, and you
guys mentioned it. I'm getting ready to go home and
really really sell this one big, beautiful bill. I don't
think there's any state that fared better than Alaska, particularly
(47:20):
to their earlier questions on the American energy components. A
huge part of this bill is unlocking American energy, and
most of the bill was unlocking Alaska. You know, American
energy dominance run through my great state, So I'm anxious
to get home to make the pitch to so many
Alaskans where they have a much better understanding how this
(47:43):
helps working families, our economy, our military, our Coastguard is
a home run. But to your question, Schumer, you know, look,
the guy is so afraid of his left wing right.
Every day he wakes up scared to death that AOC
is going to primary him him. So he is trying
to fight supposedly anything that we're trying to get done
(48:05):
to move forward with our government, certainly on legislation, but
on nominees, on basic you know, under secretary's assistant secretaries,
people who run our government, he blocks every way they
can to get their Senate confirmation. So we're going to
start just jamming down on these guys. We just had
a meeting of all our Senate Republican colleagues saying, hey,
(48:29):
we need to go morning, noon, and night to start
getting the president's nominees across the board. We've gotten zero
cooperation from Schumer, and usually you guys on the lower
level nominees, if it's an assistant secretary, you kind of
put it in a package to move something forward. With
several nominees. That's very normal. We did it with Biden,
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they did it previously. Schumer's not doing that. This is
the most obstruction we've seen from any Senate Minority leader
on another administration's nominees, literally since Herbert Hoover. The guy
won't help us at all. So we're gonna start jamming
down on him.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
We're talking to Senator Dan Sullivan of Alaska. One of
the things that obviously is going to be a huge
topic of discussion next year is the House. And I
think we talked about this with you before, but the
ranked choice voting in Alaska seems to me to be
a complete mess.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
What is the latest on that.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Do you agree that it's a mess, And what are
Alaskans thinking after they were kind of I think bamboozled
into the idea in the first place.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
Well, look, it's still on the ballot in Alaska, and
there's an outside group that put it on the ballot
a statewide initiative in twenty twenty The Republicans fought it,
I fought it. We tried to get it removed in
twenty twenty four. By the way, both times it pass
with less than one percent of the vote. And we
(50:01):
are the groups against it. Republicans myself, we are outspent.
It's unbelievable, I don't know, twelve thirteen million by the
outside group's four ranked choice voting versus eighty thousand by
the Republican Party. It's very confusing, and it can be really,
(50:23):
really manipulated. And the Democrats, in my view, particularly Schumer,
who's already been you know, I'm up for reelection this
cycle as well. We have a Congressman Nick Vegas. She's
doing a great job, but we'll have to run against
that and look the best way even with a system
like that which we don't like. I don't like. It's confusing,
(50:43):
it can be manipulated. Alaskans are still confused by it.
Is to show what we're getting done, and again, I
want to come back to this one big, beautiful bill
for Alaska. This bill, across every element of policy in
our economy, is really really strong, and what we're going
(51:05):
to do is run on our record, and I think
for Alaska, this bill, particularly as it relates to jobs
in our economy and the working class, is a home run.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
What are the most important changes that Trump administration could
see through here from where things were under four years
of Biden on the issue of energy. I mean, obviously, Alaska,
a very important energy production state, affects your economy. It
really affects America and the global economy too. You guys
have a lot of stuff up there. What needs to
happen or what are some of the concrete things that
(51:37):
Trump can do so that we take drill, baby drill
to the next level.
Speaker 7 (51:42):
Yeah, well, we've done it in this bill, and the
President did it literally day one. You guys might recall.
One of the president's first executive orders about a couple
hours after he was inaugurated, was this executive Order on
Unleashing Alaska's extra Ordinary Resource Potential. I work directly with
(52:03):
the President and his team on this to unleash Alaska.
We're the only state in the country that has our
own executive order. So what that executive order did was
it said, hey, we're going to reverse pretty much all
the seventy executive orders that Biden issued to shut down Alaska.
So that that was good, But the big beautiful Bill
(52:25):
is even better because what we did is that we
put a lot of those reversals into law, and that's
just obviously much stronger in terms of what you know,
God forbid, we have a Democrat administration four years from now.
I certainly hope we don't. But if that administration tries
to come in and shut down Alaska, they're not going
to be able to do it because let me give
(52:48):
you a couple examples. On the One Big Beautiful Bill,
we open the Anwar, the National Patrolum Reserve of Alaska,
the cook Inlet Region. These are all federal lands that
have huge resources, and we mandate in this bill regular
(53:09):
lease sales that Biden would never do, that Democrats would
never do in the law. So it says, hey, energy
companies can come up, they get regular lea sales on
all of these really really important federal lands. As you
guys mentioned, Alaska has so much oil and gas, so
many critical minerals. And then really importantly, we got a
(53:30):
permitting reform provision in the One Big Beautiful Bill that
will help expedite the permitting of these projects. One of
our greatest challenges the Dems love to abuse it is,
you know, having a permitting system. It takes ten to
fifteen to twenty years to permit a resource development project.
That kills our competitiveness. It's really hard for long term
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investors to invest in Alaska when they have these permitting issues,
and we got per many reform done in this one big,
beautiful bill as well to expedite these projects, get them
online quickly. That's a part of the bill. It hasn't
got a lot of attention. Great for Alaska, great for America.
So if you can get it in the law, which
(54:14):
is what we did on energy in this bill, it's
even better than the executive order that the President issued,
which we are really appreciative of. So it's the combo
of both. And he's got a great energy team, a
bunch of his cabinet. We're just up in Alaska recently.
I hosted them all over the state. It's going to
be very exciting times for Alaska and resource development. By
(54:36):
the way, we'd love to have you guys, Clay buck
up up to our state. We can do a program
from Alaska. I think I talked about that last time
I was on it.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Can we get as long as we get yeah, I was,
as long as we can get Clay close to some
grizzly bears, He's going to be excited.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
He likes to get real close though, Senator, you know
he wants to see them.
Speaker 7 (54:55):
Clay, I will bring you close.
Speaker 6 (54:56):
Man.
Speaker 7 (54:57):
There's great fishing going on in our great state right now.
It's it's the place to be. But we really do that.
Remember last time, last time I was on the show,
we talked about you guys all coming up. You got
a lot of listeners in Alaska, huge fans, and we
can do it. You guys should have a ball.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
I am sold on this idea.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
In fact, I was talking to my wife downstairs right
but during the last commercial break, she was like, Hey,
what you got going on? I said, hey, we've got
one of the senators from Alaska going Neither she nor
I have ever been to Alaska. It is on the
top of the list. And she said, well, we've got
to go up to Alaska. So I know we have
some good affiliates up there. You guys can reach out.
Let's see if we can get this set up. I
(55:35):
want to make the trip. I've been wanting to visit
for a long time, Senator, So maybe we can get
this thing worked out where we can come up and
do broadcast, or one of us can at least, and
that would be me, and we'll see whether Buck can
make it too.
Speaker 7 (55:50):
Butay, you come up with your wife, Buck, you come
up with your family, and here's what we'll do. We'll
do the one Big Beautiful Bill tour because look, there
is so many good things in this bill for the country,
but for the great state of Alaska. I could do
a program with you guys for three hours. And what
we're trying to do. Now you know the way the
(56:10):
Democrats work. Schumer has spent his far left dark money groups.
They've spent I mean, believe or not, up close to
two million bucks running negative ads against me and this
bill and how it's horrible. It's not. They're all false ads.
So what we're doing is we're trying to make the
case all over the state. But heck, we could do
(56:31):
a one big beautiful clay Buck tour.
Speaker 1 (56:34):
And I don't hate it. I don't hate this idea
at all.
Speaker 7 (56:38):
And I'm telling you, man, you guys would love it.
Bring your family, we'd have a blast, and we'd we'd
get the word out right because people want to hear
the truth.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I love this. We'll talk of the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Got a three month old, so traveling all the way
from Miami to Alaska bit of a trip, so he
might not be able to do it, but we will.
I want to come up there and we'll come up
for the show for sure and help you out with
this process. And fusher Greg is making fun of me
and saying maybe I could swim from Alaska to Russia
because I said I could swim from Alcatraz to the same.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
That's after you do the Alcatraz swim. The bearing straight
swim is the that's the pro or challenging.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Senator. We appreciate the time.
Speaker 7 (57:17):
Okay, guys, good to be back on the show, and
thanks for your great work.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Thank you appreciate it. I will say Clay Alaska in
the summer, which is when I went there. Maybe, Yeah,
I went keen I Peninsula fishing with my dad and
my brothers. One of the most in terms of natural beauty,
one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen. I mean,
if you like the cold, crisp weather beauty, it's it's amazing.
I mean, I have to go and my wife Laura,
(57:42):
I'm not kidding. We were just talking about this and
how we want to add it to the list. So
maybe we make that happen in the meantime.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
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I bet rapid radios work really, really well in Alaska
because you don't necessarily know if you're going to get
great reception, but you need to have something reliable in
the event that you've got something going on.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Maybe grizzly bears are in the yard and you need
a little bit of help.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Maybe you want to make sure that you're protected in
the event of some sort of weather catastrophe, power going out.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Whatever it might be.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
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